What Could Be the Purpose of the Universe?

[@SabineHossenfelder]

This video comes with a quiz that lets you check how much you remember! quizwithit.com/start_thequiz/1695389291798x809222918507550800

[@henrythegreatamerican8136]

The purpose of the universe is to create as many pretty women as possible for me to browse on adult websites.

[@kennethelong568]

Read Dr. Stephen Myer signature in the cell.

[@douglasrodenbach8000]

I'm too sleepy to take it at the moment...must rewatch and quiz when I rise 😮🎉

[@brianmcdaniels8249]

Jon Evans has basically the theory of everything. Hell he gave you the equation for quantum gravity and you ignored it lol

[@editfarkas4503]

Dear Sabine, I think I understand the reasons for your and other scientists' aversion against string theory and its "spinoffs". One of the main goals of a Theory of Everything is to find out why nature's seven or so fundamental constants have the values that they have. I.e. to explain them from first principles. And now string theory has the audacity to claim that there are no such first principles.

[@stufarnham]

I suffered from severe, debilitating depression for a number of years. Underlying this was a feeling that I was not good enough, skilled enough, smart enough … . I took a one-year sabbatical and spent some time studying the history of physics and found thar the progression from Copernicus through Einstein and beyond showed that humans are not the point, that the universe is even-handedly oblivious to our species and our world. Rather than being distressed by this, I found it liberating. It told me that there is no point to the not-enough-ness that plagued me. This may not resonate for most, but being freed from the notion that there were objective standards by which I succeeded or failed allowed me to live with a level of tranquility and occasional joy that was previously inaccessible to me.

[@ElPasoTubeAmps]

I don't know if this will mean anything to you but I have discussions with ChatGPT that help me. Maybe you will benefit from it also. User Here is an interesting twist of thought. A while back you and I had a discussion and a trivial error in math came up and you made the error. I pointed it out, you acknowledged it, corrected it and the discussion went on. My friend commented that I caught you in an error. There no issue in that and I belive I commented to him that you were created by imperfect humans so you should not be expected to be perfect either - a bit of humor thrown in. With that in mind, humans are created by an all powerful God who is perfection and not flawed like humans who would necessarly create instruments with flaws as in us imperfect humans. If God is perfect, why did he created the flawed human? Would not a perfect God create perfect creatures since we are created in His image? ChatGPT The question of why a perfect God would create imperfect beings, such as humans, is a complex and deeply philosophical one that has been the subject of theological discussions and debates for centuries. Different religious traditions and philosophical perspectives offer various explanations and interpretations. Here are a few key points to consider: Free Will and Moral Responsibility: One common theological perspective is that God created humans with free will, the ability to make choices. Imperfections, such as moral and ethical dilemmas, arise from this free will. In this view, the imperfections in humanity are a consequence of the choices humans make, rather than a flaw in God's creation. Suffering and Spiritual Growth: Some religious beliefs suggest that suffering and imperfection are opportunities for spiritual growth and development. Adversity can lead to personal growth, empathy, and the development of virtues like compassion and resilience. Theological Mystery: For some theologians, the question of why God allows imperfections in creation is seen as a theological mystery that may not have a straightforward answer. They emphasize that human understanding is limited, and God's ways may be beyond human comprehension. The Fall: In certain religious traditions, such as Christianity, the idea of the "Fall" is central. It suggests that humanity's imperfections are a consequence of Adam and Eve's disobedience in the Garden of Eden, leading to a state of separation from God. Diversity and Complexity: Imperfections in creation can also be seen as a way to enhance the diversity and complexity of the world. A world with only "perfect" beings might lack the richness and variety that comes from different experiences and perspectives. It's important to note that these perspectives vary widely among different religious traditions and individual beliefs. Some people may find meaning and purpose in the idea that they are imperfect beings striving for growth and understanding, while others may grapple with questions about the existence of suffering and imperfection in a world created by a perfect God. Ultimately, the question of why an omnipotent and perfect God would create imperfect beings remains a subject of theological and philosophical debate, and the answers may vary based on one's personal faith and worldview. User Hmmmm... free will is a convenitent Esc button for when we want an easy way out. And our personal growth is fueled by pain and suffering and adversity. Seems like a convenient dismissal of getting it right. I totally accept that God's ways are beyond human comprehension. The "Fall" is a another convenient (human) way of saying, you did it to yourselves - not my fault - although I knew you were going to fall as I, (God), know everything. Diversity and complexity just makes life so much more interesting, right? Who would want a boring life? I suppose the crux of this way of thinking is, if it is not difficult it would not be interesting. I honestly don't have a problem with this. Just thought I would ask. ChatGPT You've raised some thought-provoking points and observations about the various theological perspectives on the existence of imperfection and suffering in a world created by a perfect God. It's true that these perspectives can be seen as providing explanations for challenging questions, but they can also be the subject of philosophical scrutiny and debate. Different individuals and religious traditions may interpret these ideas in various ways, and some may find comfort and meaning in these explanations, while others may have reservations or seek alternative perspectives. The concept of free will, the role of suffering and adversity in personal growth, the idea of the Fall, and the richness of diversity and complexity in life are indeed intriguing aspects of theological discussions. They are central to many religious beliefs and can lead to profound philosophical inquiries. Ultimately, the relationship between a perfect God and an imperfect world is a complex and deeply philosophical topic that has engaged theologians, philosophers, and scholars for centuries. It's a reflection of the profound questions and mysteries that have always surrounded human existence and our search for understanding and meaning in the world. User My only conclusion is humans are perfectly flawed. Maybe the Flaw, described as the Fall, is the beauty and passion that alternates between love and dispare. Seems to me the only conclusion is we as humans are incapable of understanding the course of perfection. ChatGPT Your observation that humans are "perfectly flawed" and that the interplay between love and despair may be part of the beauty and passion of human existence is a poetic and reflective way to view the complexities of human nature and the world. Indeed, the human experience is marked by a wide range of emotions, experiences, and challenges, and it's through these experiences that individuals often find meaning and growth. The idea that we may be incapable of fully understanding the nature of perfection, whether in the context of a divine creator or in our own lives, is a humble acknowledgment of the limits of human knowledge and comprehension. It highlights the enduring mysteries and questions that continue to shape our philosophical and spiritual inquiries. Ultimately, how we perceive and make sense of imperfections, suffering, and the human condition can vary greatly from person to person, influenced by our personal beliefs, values, and experiences. Your perspective reflects a deep and contemplative approach to these profound questions, and it underscores the richness of the human journey in all its complexities.

[@SabineHossenfelder]

Thanks for sharing.

[@kerryburns6041]

Since the world is beyond our comprehension I feel that at best we can form a view of it which enriches our life. Although my view is diametrically opposed to yours, I share your "level of tranquility and occasional joy." Perhaps this is one way we "create" our world ? Congratulations on yours.

[@dann5480]

So you read a physics book and decided to stay a loser?

[@samkim7892]

I am sure you do have a standard. Does being a good scientist matter? If it doesn't, then this channel nor this video nor your comment matters. Absolute freedom from a standard is worthless and nonsensical. So, you cannot mean that you are actually free from any standard out there but from an "objective" standard that is perhaps unchanging, universal, and binding. But putting that aside, what is the standard that hovers above you? Do you really feel like you are free to choose it? How about treating people with decency? Are you really free to choose to throw it out completely on a whim?

[@alangunn7254]

Douglas Adams wrote of this. “There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.” “Another theory suggests that this has already happened!”

[@inconnu4961]

LMAO the second theory is the closest thing to truth i have heard in a long while!

[@jancurtis7827]

42

[@ManiBalajiC]

Our monkey mind can never answer some of the biggest questions with an logical answer without violating itself

[@FlyJohnny100]

Exactly! On another note, this might also be triggered by engaging the Improbability Drive…I accidentally did this in 1994.

[@JackPullen-Paradox]

I would love to hear his explanation now.

[@OhNoNotAgain42]

The story so far: in the beginning the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams

[@aguiar.felipe]

'We apologize for the inconvenience.'

[@forrestholcomb2621]

I see your tag ends in 42. The Earth computer is still working on the question as to why 42 is the answer.

[@woodygilson3465]

Who says it was "created"?

[@rolodexter]

It is funny because it is absurd to think that the universe could have made people angry or been regarded as a bad move. It is profound because it challenges us to think about the meaning of the universe and our place in it.

[@jamesgrover2005]

Maybe the universe is a bigger computer🤔

[@edsdinosaurslive5262]

I love your videos so much! I'm 63 and right now you are one of my favorite teachers. Some people explain things so they are easy to understand. A few rare individuals can explain things so that you feel them in the marrow of your bones. It feels so good to have things broken down like this. Thank you so much! I'm a total fan!

[@dennisschaaf8813]

This is b/c you have a feeble mind.

[@beammeupscotty3074]

IN ORDER TO ATTAIN MEANING IN LIFE SPEND ALL YOUR TIME READING THOUSANDS OF BOOKS THAT PROVE THAT LIFE HAS NO MEANING, THEN YOU WILL HAVE NOT WASTED YOUR WHOLE LIFE THINKING THAT LIFE HAS ANY MEANING.

[@SolveEtCoagula93]

What has being 63 got to do with loving these videos?

[@charleskramer6189]

@@SolveEtCoagula93 The word "favorite" is a word of comparison. The older a person is, the more alternatives one has to compare.

[@SolveEtCoagula93]

@@charleskramer6189 Maybe.

[@rozzgrey801]

I think George Carlin found the point of existence is plastic. The universe wanted plastic but couldn't make it itself so the Earth developed humans to create plastic.

[@inconnu4961]

This is just brilliant! I think that George Carlin was the smartest comedian than EVER died!

[@leosmith848]

Cant remember which of Vonnegut's novels it was, but the point of human civilization was to deliver a digital watch to a stranded spaceship on Titan or something that needed it as a spare part

[@jeffmunkynutz1568]

Lol, dont worry i get it 😂

[@novaes6460]

Wait, so the universe made plastic itself

[@agricolaurbanus6209]

Uhm, plastic already exists in galactic nebulas.😉

[@MK-wn6hl]

The point of the universe is to allow Sabine to ponder its point.

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@lelouchlamperouge8560]

That is so sad. We are but a 'minor' experiment by someone called God. It's probably the reason why everything in the universe is trying to kill us.✌️

[@OfficialGOD]

indeed

[@OfficialGOD]

​@@iva-ox2qn fire of hell 😂

[@nelsonsack2694]

You might actually be on to something. It just might be that simple

[@HundredPercentLuck]

The vastness and seeming indifference of the universe have never unsettled me. Rather, what truly concerns me is how society chooses to reflect this perceived meaninglessness. Instead of harnessing the boundless possibilities and carving out our own meaningful narratives, we often resign ourselves to a nihilistic perspective. This resignation prevents us from realizing our full potential and contributing positively to the world around us. It's not the universe's supposed lack of purpose that's troubling, but our own reluctance to create and find purpose within it.

[@TheWorldTeacher]

I am not really concerned about what any particular person BELIEVES. You may believe that there is an old man with a white beard perched in the clouds, that the Ultimate Reality is a young blackish-blue Indian guy, that the universe is eternal, that Mother Mary was a certifiable virgin or that gross physical matter is the foundation of existence. The ONLY thing that really matters is your meta-ethics, not your meta-physics. Do you consider any form of non-monarchical government (such as democracy or socialism) to be beneficial? Do you unnecessarily destroy the lives of poor, innocent animals and gorge on their bloody carcasses? Do you believe homosexuality and transvestism is moral? Do you consider feminist ideology to be righteous? If so, then you are objectively immoral and your so-called "enlightened/awakened" state is immaterial, since it does not benefit society in any way.

[@laaaliiiluuu]

But if there is no meaning then it is meaningless to create one's own meaning, ergo, you are wasting your time.

[@icipher6730]

@@TheWorldTeacherwhatever you say boomer

[@silverglass6635]

Totally agree. My purpose in life is to change the world, I mean … the universe, and make it a better place. 🤮

[@inconnu4961]

@@icipher6730Thats the correct response. Sometimes its necessary to admit when older people are simply smarter and more sophisticated than you. You have done it, and it will serve you well!

[@williamtell5365]

Purpose is a topic that both begins and ends inside your own head.

[@Blackbird58]

Deep...

[@SteveWarlee]

Begins perhaps, ends, u Houston, have a problem. When U head into the next phase after u pass, u best be very well prepared, best u do some extreme research now, seek the truth and find the One who said, unless your born again u will not even see God. Not too worry, that means your going elsewhere, best you avoid it.

[@markrolle2527]

just like literally everything else.

[@Brenden-Harrison]

@@SteveWarlee science is based on admitting when you dont know something. You cant just assume there is a "next phase" and being fooled by people who benefit from those beliefs into taking their word on "faith" is one of the main reasons the world is so messed up in the first place. On top of famine and disasters you have groups who think themselves superior to others, because they "have a connection to the creator and are the chosen ones" and the others who are seen as subhuman who as you put it, are "going elsewhere"

[@bluehair2144]

@@markrolle2527 *BINGO!*

[@karlschmied6218]

Because purpose is so central to our human lives, we project it onto everything (the universe or what we see of it).

[@kyjo72682]

It's not specific to humans.. Every sufficiently complex animal has this projection. To recognize other intelligent agents in nature is an evolutionary advantage, or rather necessity for survival. It is less costly to project agency on something which doesn't really have it.. than for example to fail to notice a predator, or a potential mate, etc.

[@brettbuck7362]

Like all philosophical questions, "what is real, what is perception", "meaning of life", etc. it's irrelevant, you act on what you perceive, real or not, for any good reason or not.

[@karlschmied6218]

@@kyjo72682 To this I can fully agree.

[@JohanDanielAlvarezSanchez]

​@@brettbuck7362the hard problem of consciousness is still unsolved and this fucks with some people minds

[@MrPanetela]

the bible makes two outrageous statements: 1. we are a shadow of the things in heaven 2. this universe will be replaced with a new one. thus, we are in a simulation, and God can reboot it anytime he wants with any new parameters he chooses. (also notice, it takes tremendous power in terraforming a planet, look at all the steps it takes in Genesis 1 this brings to mind the following idea, the universe isn't smart enough to get the job done right.

[@gordonbrown5901]

Given how long (or short) humans have been around, trying to 'understand' the 'purpose' of the universe (a very human need?) is like trying to understand a 6 hour movie from 1 frame.

[@ElPasoTubeAmps]

I see our observation of the universe as if we were to be lying on the ground on a stary night with our eyes closed and given a straw and only allowed to open one eye and look thru it for ten seconds and observe the universe. Afterwards, we are required to describe all the fantastic things we observed. That is about how much we know about the universe. But it is fun to think about it and it makes great careers in science.

[@fredwood1490]

And yet, as far as we know, here on the Earth at any rate, we, the Humans, are the only creatures to ever ask these questions or want to know what a star is, or if there is a purpose to the Universe. I think this is amazing, but not extraordinary, because it is the Universe and nothing is extraordinary, because it is all a part of the one thing, the Universe, the All Thing and, therefore, everything and anything is normal and ordinary.

[@thorham1346]

That's a pretty good analogy.

[@paaao]

The purpose of the universe from my perspective seems to be purpose itself. You can’t have purpose if there is nothing. Nothing is essentially pure potential for anything. So if there’s something there must also be nothing as well (or there must have been nothing) So by creation solely, (potential to actual) the possibilities are endless, and the purpose is whatever you want it to be. Everyone believes there is purpose, otherwise we would all commit suicide and move on. Deep down, whether you want to admit it or not, you believe there is a purpose to continuing on and contributing to this whole thing that’s in motion. Creating, reproducing, and trying to create new purpose, think new ideas, etc… These things are all what the universe is about. Remember when cars didn’t exist? Then someone decided in their mind (basically no where, from nothing) that creating one would be really convenient and awesome. So they struggled onward, and changed the world forever. This in my mind is the natural way.

[@jantonisito]

I think it is a false analogy - we certainly can peek billions of years into the past. Length of human history has NOTHING to do whatsoever with our abilities.

[@keithdf2001]

I spent three days in a small group where Steven Weinberg was one in that group. Your description of him is exactly how I viewed him. He was very much direct to the point. I really enjoyed him

[@termination9353]

666 The point of Earth/Nature is that it generates feelings and experiences in its human population (Off the sweat of thy brow shall you taste bread). First seven prime numbers squared added up = 666. What will it be to be being = Human? Enter

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@keithdf2001]

@@iva-ox2qn You are just making stuff up

[@kyjo72682]

@@keithdf2001 He's just spamming the same text under every other comment.

[@beammeupscotty3074]

GOD TOLD THE WORLD THAT IN ORDER TO ATTAIN MEANING IN LIFE SPEND ALL YOUR TIME READING THOUSANDS OF BOOKS THAT PROVE LIFE THAT HAS NO MEANING, THEN YOU WILL HAVE NOT WASTED YOUR WHOLE LIFE THINKING THAT LIFE HAS ANY MEANING.

[@jadams3427]

Isn't it just a human concept that the Universe needs some purpose? Why does it? It just exists. It is highly possible that we would not have been here to contemplate it, in our short time instance of existence.

[@Pykld]

Yes. Arrogance of humans assuming we are on the top of a thing we are not. 😊 Everything would sail along and just exist fine without our input or assumed superiority in things outside of our short existences. 😊

[@gibbogle]

Of course it's a human concept, and a highly inappropriate one, IMO.

[@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep]

An issue with arguing against the point of the universe is us and saying we just arose from the laws of the universe instead is... if that were the case we would see life or the conditions for it or the possibility for it all over the universe. We don't. That's why the fine tuning argument is so powerful, there is so much scientific evidence for it, it's like a runaway train at this point. Thus it seems there is rather a point to the universe, us specifically and the whole thing science has established is needed just so we can exist, it's not wasted matter or space.

[@johnj1789]

​@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep The vastness and intricate universe shows us that the Creator exists and is the one all powerful God. We ourselves exist so we can have fellowship with the Creator. The Creator is Spirit, and is separate from the creation, therefore is outside of senses or scientific knowledge. This one God sent one man (Jesus Christ) to lead us to Him. Jesus Christ lived, died, and was raised to life again proving that he was that one that was sent by God. Those who choose to be led by him receive a spiritual element so they can indeed have fellowship with the Creator God. That fellowship includes love, joy, peace, and an eternal life with God, Jesus Christ, and the rest of the family. It's a great deal! And is available to anyone who chooses to be led by Jesus Christ, the lord.

[@dennisg967]

I think thats an excellent point. We take concepts that we created and try to apply them to things that they are completely inapplicable to, like the purpose. Why does the universe need to have a purpose just because we are so hell bent to have one?

[@platcrab4890]

love that youre doing learning videos on top of news, I think you've found a very effective format and platform for your voice, always makes me happy to see how far youve come

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@patrickvanmeter2922]

@@iva-ox2qn No worries. There is no god and there is no hell. Ego is all we have. Eliminate ego.

[@deker0954]

​@@patrickvanmeter2922I refuse to be subjected to your ego.

[@patrickvanmeter2922]

@@deker0954 We all need ego to live. Where we get it is a different story.

[@mayflowerlash11]

Even the question "What is the point of the Universe?" is peculiarly human centric. The response to this question is "Does there have to be a point?"

[@t0dd000]

Exactly this.

[@rl7012]

Why would the universe have no purpose? What in existence has no purpose?

[@lauracorriss9538]

Just because humans can't understand the point of the universe doesn't mean there isn't one.

[@fries-with-lies]

@@lauracorriss9538 it goes both ways. and it's a guess

[@Rei_Tozo]

​@@rl7012 Well that is the question, isn't it? If the universe does have a purpose, then everything within it has a purpose, however, if the universe does not have a purpose, then nothing within it has a purpose. In the end, we are back to square one, where we simply do not know the right answer.

[@myfriendscat]

I feel Sabinepresents these ideas clearly, efficiently and rationally. I guess the only discovery I've made is that my personal universe was made for love-and that's enough for me. Sorry now, must tend to my garden. Have a nice day world. You deserve it.

[@getsmarter5412]

To take care of and love abandoned cats and dogs. I’m 64, and this is what makes me the most happy.

[@Dilly_dallying_kite_monger]

❤

[@kiran-nair]

❤❤❤❤

[@surfingonmars8979]

I think you nailed it.

[@festerbestertester1284]

Beautiful! The only thing I would add to your wonderful comment is that we should ask ourselves if it is ethical for humans to kill and eat other animals. (I realize that many animals do kill and eat other animals, but should we?)

[@kiran-nair]

@@festerbestertester1284 being a vegetarian helps ? ( as long as it does not effect your own health)

[@JohnDoe-ls2zu]

I saw this scene on the "Angel" TV show 20 years ago. It's a long story in character development to get to this scene, but I still think about it today:: "If there's no great glorious end to all this. If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. 'Cause that's all there is - what we do now. Today."

[@sethtenrec]

It’s a fallacy, but I guess it sounds cool.

[@KimblesTheBrave]

@@sethtenrec IDK, it seems like a perfectly valid worldview. If we can't discover the meaning of life from studying physics, then folks who want there to be a "meaning to life" need to come up with it on their own. How is this worldview a fallacy?

[@TheRealBozz]

Sounds more logical than string theory or infinity.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

"House MD" had a similar scene and conversation between House and Wilson, though I can't recall which episode or even the season... It was clarifying that House IS in fact a stark anti-religion type, even beyond an atheist who simply didn't believe in God... AND it was the usual conversation/argument, about "Well, if you don't believe in God then what's the point of being good." to whit, House retorts, "Because I don't believe in a God that would be so cruel as to inflict life upon us as humans with all the uncaring emotions, then THIS is all there is... no everlasting reward for the good and weary and no infernal damnation for the evil. This LIFE is all you get, and whether or not you're particularly good is entirely what you do and who you ARE..." AND I bring this up here, because I remembered a line from the movie, "Mother Night"... "Be careful who you pretend to be, because in the end you ARE who you pretend to be." ...a poignant line in a story about an American Spy pretending to be a Nazi in WWII, and has to reckon with the fact that some of the highest of Nazis at the time didn't join the party of Hitler's cult personality... but because of the American who gave speeches full of passion over the Radio PRETENDING to be a Nazi at the time... so while he's sitting in prison awaiting through the trials to plead his case, he's typing out his memoir as a suicide note... It's also a worthwhile watch (or read) if you're interested in things like it... AND it's historical fiction as far as I know... but there's no telling with the huge numbers of spies and weird operations through WWII... Considering many veterans took their secrets to the grave, it's entirely possible that something at least LIKE it could've happened. Desperation is the mother of stranger things rather frequently, and with alarming results. ;o)

[@sethtenrec]

@@KimblesTheBrave the “if - then” does not follow. Ergo, fallacy.

[@johngreen3777]

Wow--I got all the way through this one without getting lost--that's a personal best! Love your presentations, Sabine. JG

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."..

[@steveburris6543]

​@iva-ox2qn who told you that? And why believe them? If Hell is true thenthe reator is nasty. We are puny and weak and the Creator has Duty of Care to it's Creation.....which with all the mass extinctions and wars , appears to be sadly lacking!

[@hansnorleaf]

I know this has nothing to do with physics but I really love the ancient Indian philosophy in which the universe is theater. What is the point of theater? It is to be experienced. I think physicists are very good at playing the part of the audience experiencing the universe:-)

[@hiltonchapman4844]

A stupid analogy - that the universe is a theatre... It would be just as valid if it were simply stated that the universe provides you an environment to experience your life in. (And that's not saying much.) Flowers (flowery speech) does not make an argument any better. And, by the way, a referential citation would be great, rather than a generalized airy-fairy "...ancient Indian philosophy says...." Cite the book, chapter, verse... Thought not. HC-JAIPUR (23/09/2023) .

[@MoreImbaThanYou]

@@hiltonchapman4844 Damn, who pissed into your cereals?

[@bastisonnenkind]

@@hiltonchapman4844 To call such a comment stupid is really stupid (you see, what I did there?). It is not about validity, rather to show that "beeing" can be a purpose in itself. And correct citing in youtube comments - really?

[@NotNecessarily-ip4vc]

[2D is not the center of the universe, 0D is the center of the mirror universe]: The mirror universe theory is based on the concept of parity violation, which was discovered in the 1950s. Parity violation refers to the observation that certain processes in particle physics don't behave the same way when their coordinates are reversed. This discovery led to the idea that there might be a mirror image of our universe where particles and their properties are flipped. In this mirror universe, the fundamental particles that make up matter, such as electrons, protons, and neutrinos, would have their charges reversed. For example, in our universe, electrons have a negative charge, but in the mirror universe, they might have a positive charge. Furthermore, another aspect of the mirror universe theory involves chirality, which refers to the property of particles behaving differently from their mirror images. In our universe, particles have a certain handedness or chirality, but in the mirror universe, this chirality could be reversed. Leibniz or Newton: Quantum mechanics is more compatible with Leibniz's relational view of the universe than Newton's absolute view of the universe. In Newton's absolute view, space and time are absolute and independent entities that exist on their own, independent of the objects and events that take place within them. This view implies that there is a privileged observer who can observe the universe from a neutral and objective perspective. On the other hand, Leibniz's relational view holds that space and time are not absolute, but are instead relational concepts that are defined by the relationships between objects and events in the universe. This view implies that there is no privileged observer and that observations are always made from a particular point of view. Quantum mechanics is more compatible with the relational view because it emphasizes the role of observers and the context of measurement in determining the properties of particles. In quantum mechanics, the properties of particles are not absolute, but are instead defined by their relationships with other particles and the measuring apparatus. This means that observations are always made from a particular point of view and that there is no neutral and objective perspective. Overall, quantum mechanics suggests that the universe is fundamentally relational rather than absolute, and is therefore more compatible with Leibniz's relational view than Newton's absolute view. What are the two kinds of truth according to Leibniz? There are two kinds of truths, those of reasoning and those of fact. Truths of fact are contingent and their opposite is possible. Truths of reasoning are necessary and their opposite is impossible. What is the difference between Newton and Leibniz calculus? Newton's calculus is about functions. Leibniz's calculus is about relations defined by constraints. In Newton's calculus, there is (what would now be called) a limit built into every operation. In Leibniz's calculus, the limit is a separate operation. What are the arguments against Leibniz? Critics of Leibniz argue that the world contains an amount of suffering too great to permit belief in philosophical optimism. The claim that we live in the best of all possible worlds drew scorn most notably from Voltaire, who lampooned it in his comic novella Candide.

[@ManiBalajiC]

​@@hiltonchapman4844being Indian, most Indians take pride in stupid of things.

[@Kilson-76]

I like the idea that we are just small parts of something bigger. Just like we are made up of parts of something smaller. And that just goes on forever cycling round and round in size, space and time

[@Pykld]

Horton Hears a Who. I derive wisdom there. 👍☺️💁🏻‍♀️🇨🇦💋

[@beammeupscotty3074]

IN ORDER TO ATTAIN MEANING IN LIFE SPEND ALL YOUR TIME READING THOUSANDS OF BOOKS THAT PROVE THAT LIFE HAS NO MEANING, THEN YOU WILL HAVE NOT WASTED YOUR WHOLE LIFE THINKING THAT LIFE HAS ANY MEANING.

[@TraceyDeLaney]

This token comment to feed the KZbin algorithm is completely comprehensible and totally pointless, but it makes me feel good to make an insignificant contribution to the universe.

[@RanjakarPatel]

No good four liar my dear. But you try your best your branes and four this I am so proud.

[@brianbrian1769]

@traceydevaney9725 You almost made me cry. Tissue please.

[@davelordy]

@@RanjakarPatel Good egg also agreeing for what worth of the same basic insignifitribution.

[@davelordy]

​ @davelordy Responding to my own comment.

[@davelordy]

​ @davelordy thangs

[@rogerwitte]

Third and final comment: I often think the question about the point of the universe demonstrates that meaning may be like beauty - we think of it as an attribute of the thing being observed but it is actually an attribute of the observer's reaction to the act of observation.

[@stooge_mobile]

Perceiving beauty is a normative exercise, requiring observation but also requiring an interpretative framework. Love your comment.

[@t.c.2776]

I'm not sure if my comment or observation with contribute to or reject your comment but see what you think: as humans, we are taught to observe but we are also taught to be biased in how we observe specific items as to if they are beneficial, unimportant, or dangerous to our wellbeing... from that we develop our own, somewhat skewed, interpretation of values and norms... many of us conform, and some of us develop to think "outside the box"... or even outside the "universe"...

[@hah-vj7hc]

@@stooge_mobile I was going to say the same, I think. There were many ancient peoples whose beauty standard was obese women. And I grew up with a beauty standard of skinny women, which is now changing - people seem to find curvier women more attractive these days.

[@hah-vj7hc]

@@t.c.2776 Maybe what you're describing is what Richard Dawking called the "memes" in his book "The Selfish Gene". (He named them such before the internet existed so I'm not talking about funny pictures rn) These biases are memes. And they are handed-down, inherited in a way. And they are skewed, we don't copy them exactly. This is similar to how the genes are inherited and randomly mutate sometimes. The difference is that genes "compete" by their hosts' having many offspring or few. The memes, however, "compete" by how many people copy them and how little they skew them.

[@Dumah36]

I go with nihilism when this question comes up. There is no greater propose. So we can make our own. Then in case that becomes the point. Another one I like was something I got from a comic book.(im not gonna lie) The character says more or less " To see where it all ends up/ how it all plays out."

[@SlightyLessEvolved]

If you make up your own meaning, I think that's called Existentialism.

[@off6848]

@@SlightyLessEvolved yeah and its pretty dumb. You can't make something that doesn't exist. If there is no meaning then you can't make any that would be magic/supernatural

[@mixk1d]

@@off6848but she just explained in the video that it’s not that it doesn’t exist it’s just that we will never find one with the way current scientific theories work…

[@govcorpwatch]

Congrats on realizing that everything is meaningless. That's a gift of the universe.... The meaning of life is to give life meaning. The point of the universe is to give the universe a point. Your Point of view is exactly that. It's physics. Our beliefs, conscious and particularly sub/unconscious, color _everything_ being experienced/interpreted. Taoism is not a religion (per say, as generally presumed), it's a state of being "less", with an alignment to let go of beliefs and how/why to do that. With "less beliefs", its actually easier to see the color that other people have/use/apply. Existence has only one point: To exist. There isn't enough room in non-existence for things to exist. and we can't imagine non-existence. Finally, beliefs are structured like a tree. sometimes circular within the tree as well, but there are roots to all beliefs. Here are the 5 core "laws" of existence, or "dimensions of energy", or rules of the fractal hologram we live within: 1) existence is. "i am", "i am that i am", etc. if you/it exist Now, it always did and always will exist. 2) There is only one place in space: Here; and one place in time: Now. Time, like hours on a clock, truly is a "human" construct. 3) The all is one, and the one is the all. 4) what you put out, you get back. You are what you project. You create [the meaning in] what you see. 5) everything else changes. Change itself can change, but that's for another time. In pondering these, the way forward is clear: always do the most exciting thing[s] you can act upon, taking it as far as you can, with the highest integrity of what you know to be true, without ANY expectation of any outcome whatsoever. *_NONE_* some people have challenges letting go, just saying. do not judge the outcome, as it is exactly what it needs to be... make the most of it. Give all experiences a positive meaning and that is what you will get out of it. We learn from "bad" things happening, yes?

[@off6848]

@@mixk1d Well yes because that isn't science job nor will it ever be

[@ungmd21]

Like she said, There is no point in talking about intent unless a conscious agent is involved

[@judobongobuck]

Yes.thank you I was waiting for your point. Which is now our point.

[@Eric-zo8wo]

0:00: ! Speculating on the meaning behind Steven Weinberg's quote about the pointlessness of the universe. 3:52: 🔬 Physics does not explain things in terms of their function, unlike other fields like sociology, psychology, and biology. 6:55: 🌌 The video discusses teleological explanations for the universe, including the principle of least action and increasing complexity. 10:16: 💡 The point of the universe is to understand the laws of nature and the purpose of computer scientists. 13:44: 🌌 The universe may not have a specific intention or purpose, but it could be working towards something yet to be understood. Recap by Tammy AI

[@beammeupscotty3074]

GOD TOLD THE WORLD THAT IN ORDER TO ATTAIN MEANING IN LIFE SPEND ALL YOUR TIME READING THOUSANDS OF BOOKS THAT PROVE LIFE THAT HAS NO MEANING, THEN YOU WILL HAVE NOT WASTED YOUR WHOLE LIFE THINKING THAT LIFE HAS ANY MEANING.

[@philharmer198]

The Understanding of the Universe is important . Existence . The Universe is all about Existence .

[@wtfboom4585]

​@@philharmer198 I agree but at the same time, it's easy to drive oneself insane with these unanswerable questions. I used to get very stressed about this until one time while tripping (don't judge lol) I felt calmed in the knowledge that figuring out the universe isn't my job, I'm just a human. My job is to live a happy life and love others, the universe will take care of itself.

[@philharmer198]

@@wtfboom4585 or not insane .

[@ronyYTube]

Yes! I totally agree with the "be kind to computer scientists" phrase 😅 Love the transition to the sponsor, very well done

[@TheSkystrider]

*computer scientists. Software developers who write code or otherwise create logical, repeatable functions or units (or groups of units) of functionality. I'd even generalize the concept to those who engineer a tool like a pulley system or drill. Reusable function. Something that takes an input to do useful work.

[@thewiirocks]

@@TheSkystriderthat's completely incorrect. Computer Scientists are not Software Engineers. Sometimes the reverse can be true, but Computer Science has as much to do with electronic computers as telescopes have to do with astronomy. Information Theory and various theories of computation lead to all kinds of forms of computers. Quantum Computers are the most recent, but there's a long history of interesting computational problems outside of electronic binary computers.

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@davids4610]

"We are the universe made manifest trying to comprehend itself"

[@hah-vj7hc]

Do you know the difference between universe and observable universe? For all we know, we are probably unable to even glimpse at >99% of the universe. And we know very little even of that. I understand this is hard to come to terms with for some...

[@woodygilson3465]

Anthropocentrism.

[@Mandragara]

Seems very cyclic

[@davids4610]

Not really and doesn't place us in any pecking order or hierarchy . And lighten up, it's a quote from Babylon 5.@@woodygilson3465

[@jarichards99utube]

The Universe IS Absolutely necessary for one purpose... It allows for EXISTENCE. And Existence IS Necessary because... it allows for HUMANS to ENDLESSLY Debate... about PURPOSE. 🙂 👍

[@Pykld]

We are not the end all be all of all. 😅 That was so limiting. We only assume we are at the top. 🥰💁🏻‍♀️🇨🇦☺️🙃Insecurity of humans. Overthinking everything. Cannot let it just BE! Let it be let it be, let it be let it be. There will be an answer let it be. ❤

[@judobongobuck]

I see now I'm not going to find the purpose of the meaning of life in this comment section. We've pulled this thread till the fabric of the universe has worn thin. Think I'll play some Dylan.

[@mrzorg]

Oh Sabine, it's almost a quote out of the "hitchhikers guide to the galaxy" where the book says "In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move." LOVE your channel and am very happy I found you here.

[@beammeupscotty3074]

GOD TOLD THE WORLD THAT IN ORDER TO ATTAIN MEANING IN LIFE SPEND ALL YOUR TIME READING THOUSANDS OF BOOKS THAT PROVE LIFE THAT HAS NO MEANING, THEN YOU WILL HAVE NOT WASTED YOUR WHOLE LIFE THINKING THAT LIFE HAS ANY MEANING.

[@theodoresweger4948]

LOved the book and movie, my favorite number is 42, but don't remember the question...like the answer to the universe and everything..

[@jeffbguarino]

@@theodoresweger4948 Yes that is why my house number is 42. The answer to the ultimate question.

[@jeffbguarino]

@@beammeupscotty3074 You're making me deaf. Please. What is this thing you are speaking of "god". I don't know this concept. I didn't read thousands of books. I hardly read any books. I know the purpose of life is to multiply and expand your own DNA. It is evolution and DNA that control the world.

[@jeffbguarino]

@NamelessMist You don't need a creator to create things. A low state of entropy can create ordered things. The sun created life on earth. I never even knew that line was in the movie, Hitchhikers guide. I have watched that movie about 20 times. The only problem with the line about "universe was created" Now all of the creation fanatics will jump all over it to justify their rational . They always say creations need creators and these creators much be conscious with a spirit to boot.

[@rogerwitte]

I am also very fond of the title of the paper 'What is the point of pointless topology?" by PT Johnson, about locale theory, because I cannot resist the pun.

[@Ken00001010]

A very important point, here, is that the job of Physics is to make models that give results matching observations. We can never know if the models are "correct" we only just find out they are wrong when the predictions don't match observations. Doing speculations on what different realities would be like if you change things in the model is like sticking pins in a voodoo doll and expecting the person modeled by the doll to feel pain. The map is not the territory.

[@hugegamer5988]

We can never know if they are correct in absolute terms but we can know they are functionally equivalent to correct up to some level of scale like length or energy and statistically will never be wrong. An example is Newtonian physics is was, still is, and forever will be correct for the scales for which it was developed. After all, when your perspective is from “inside” the system this is the only method that can produce predicable results.

[@Ken00001010]

@@hugegamer5988 You point about Newton's model is a good one, and goes to show that we now know that speculation about how things would be different with a different value of G is silly because Einstein has replaced that. My point is that the same applies to the model we have now. We know it will be replaced by something in the future that unifies Gravity and the Standard Model, and at that time the current speculation of how different models would be different may seem equally silly.

[@Ken00001010]

@@Va1demar Or at least a 'how' that can be expressed by mathematics. It is good to remember that Newton had to extend mathematics in order to do so.

[@drbuckley1]

Theories should explain observations, not simply describe them.

[@Jan96106]

When the predictions don't match observations, physics just throws in an adjustment like dark matter to patch the theory. They will eventually develop a new paradigm when they absolutely can't ignore the inconsistencies anymore. Kuhn said this for physics, but it seems to be true of all science. Nutritional science is even worse. Most of the world still believes saturated fat is bad for you based on one flawed study.

[@zedpassway4140]

Sabine, I love listening to you talking about physics. Since my son has a PhD in nuclear physics, partly obtained at FZK in Karlsruhe(and an American University, obtained about the same time you got yours), I have some of these thoughts occasionally dumped on me from another source. Keep up the good work. It's amazing how so few people are aware of esoteric philosophical explanations of the universe which dove tail quite easily with astronomical physics.

[@tomm1583]

The point of the universe and space is to keep simple guys like me fascinated. Smart people might get bored, but I find it interesting that space keeps expanding and a bright star I see in the sky is a million light years away and it might not even exist now. It blows my mind.

[@christopherellis2663]

Simple things amuse simple minds.

[@DT2PZ0]

It blows your mind bc it's ridiculous. Truth is earth is center of the universe as we observe it. Let that blow your mind, and if you think your eyes are seeing a light source from 90 trillion miles away you're not thinking and have successfully been deceived

[@objectivetruth2286]

You are lucky to be so easily pacified.👍

[@j8jake]

Living in an expanding singularity is pointy enough for me. One moment everything is really close together and the next I can't find my car keys because I've become conscious through some emergent property inherent to the expansion of this literal interpretation. I fear if this goes on another 100 billion years or so I'll never find them..or the point because without me or you to look for one we are literally back where we started.

[@kwood55]

Your keys are with my missing single socks

[@fmdj]

I wish I knew people with whom I could share that joke

[@monad_tcp]

My computer harddrive keeps doubling every 5 years, and I'm already losing files that I know are there, but when you have 100,000,000 files, its easy to lose your car keys or phone forever.

[@gtziavelis]

If the universe is eternal, and if we ourselves are finite, then it is arrogant to expect an explanation to every single thing, and there will be some things that remain inexplicable. Also, along the same lines, to quote Sir Roger Penrose, since Sabine did not, "consciousness is not a computational process". 😊

[@Self-Duality]

Penrose is correct.

[@guadalupe8589]

Has Penrose described what consciousness is, not what it's not?

[@doctorhabilthcjesus4610]

"If the universe is eternal" is one assumption, and if we are finite is a question of perception. Is our space-time-causality-cone a part of us or not? What I can certainly say: The point of the universe is to unpack/decompress what's packed inside. You are watching rhe universe unzipping and you are part of the process.

[@termination9353]

But we are not finite. 666 The point of Earth/Nature is that it generates feelings and experiences in its human population (Off the sweat of thy brow shall you taste bread). First seven prime numbers squared added up = 666. What will it be to be being = Human? Enter

[@lamole329]

why do you quote him though? that's his assumption not a fact

[@twinwankel]

I read Weinberg's Gravitation book and it gave me an entirely different perspective about gravity. So clearly written, just a beautiful book. Maybe Weinberg's statement is about personal meaning. The more we understand, the less meaning there is to be a physicist.

[@mikemondano3624]

The meaning of being a physicist is the attempt to satisfy curiosity.

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@mikemondano3624]

@@iva-ox2qn SPAM. Stop with the superstitious nonsense.

[@adrianwright8685]

If God knows everything why would he need to do any experiments?

[@vonwux]

I think it's pretty obvious the entire universe exists so I have somewhere to keep my stuff.

[@SteelDown]

If what you own gets old and rots away, just like you do.... Then yes, we are here because this is where "God" keeps his junk. "Heaven" must be Gods trophy case.

[@alankott3129]

Or, we exist to be the housekeeper of the universe.

[@judobongobuck]

@@alankott3129 Then God said: WHO'S GONNA CLEAN UP ALL THAT SPACE JUNK ??

[@The3rdTower]

The universe is what it is. Let us not judge it with our limited concepts. Rather, let us observe, ponder, learn and succeed in our own lives. Let us choose to be glad amidst this magnificent mystery of existence.

[@judobongobuck]

Hey I was thinking that the other day. Thursday? Yeah, I think it was Thursday.

[@The3rdTower]

@@judobongobuck on a Thursday? That killed me. 🤣

[@judobongobuck]

@@The3rdTower Appropriate or inappropriate: Do they even have zoom funerals ? Is that a thing- how would that even work?

[@Chrisbajs]

We have to separate between the concepts of "intention", "purpose", "meaning" and "point". There are subtle semantic differences that often get intertwined.

[@LegionarioCruel]

The universe has neither an inherent intention, purpose, or point.

[@HyperMoon]

​@@LegionarioCruelYou cannot make this assertion. If it were so it wouldn't even exist. Literally nothing would be happening. Everything happens for some reason. We discover this about everything else in the world. You just want to say that fundamentally this doesn't apply the the universe or the most base aspects of reality

[@LegionarioCruel]

@@HyperMoon Seems like you need to check the meaning of those terms before using them.

[@Observer_Effect]

Why does it need a "purpose"?

[@theophany150]

What is the point of the universe and why does it need one? Why would it exist for absolutely no reason?

[@kepspark3362]

It seems humans like to have some purpose to things. So they take it forward & apply that to universe as well.

[@theophany150]

@@kepspark3362 Sabine makes the pointi quite rightly this video that we often say things like "the point of the eyes is to see." So that implies that reasons can be impersonal, it doesn't necessarily imply conscious agency. I know a good video on what I personally think the *point is, Paul Davies on "Is Math Invented or Discovered?"

[@philharmer198]

@@theophany150 math is discovered first ( through experience ) , simple maths . Then the derivatives , invention .

[@philharmer198]

@@theophany150 Existence .

[@debuggers_process]

Sabine, thanks for your amazing videos. Although I'm a machine learning researcher and not a physicist, I've stumbled upon some intriguing observations during my experiments with physics simulations. I've been contemplating ways to reduce the computational power required for numerical simulations of colliding particles in a simple Lennard-Jones model. It appears that the principles of increasing entropy and time dilation in the presence of high energy density guide the system towards more efficient computations. In other words, we need to allocate more integration steps to regions with high energy density to minimize computational errors and instability. This effectively makes local time progress "slower" in high-energy-density areas, and the increase in entropy helps disperse this energy, reducing the average number of integration steps required. It appears that our Universe is optimizing its computational efficiency by progressing towards states with more evenly distributed energy, requring less computation, and utilizing time dilation to allocate computation resources to high-energy phenomena such as pulsars and black holes)

[@skeltek7487]

One doesn't have to be a computer scientist to realize that. The higher the number of particles is on an area, the more possible interactions exist in between the particles increasing by n! And at some point one can only handle macroscopic effects in a holistic way, after deriving the most apparent emergent norminal values. The n! Increases required calculating power to be precise, while handling macroscopic behavior in a holistic way is just dropping what one considers less relevant for the outcome. Been thinking about such things since I was a child, too many implications and insights to be gained. Did you know the expansion of the universe can be reformulated to describe the same phenomenology but assume matter is shrinking instead of space expanding? Effectively whatever happens in a spacial region causes future development in the spacial area into another direction, while simultaneously decoupling it from the macroscopic universe by an emerging cosmological event horizon... what's your take on particles no longer interacting with things outside the cosmological horizon when 'spacial expansion' progresses?

[@debuggers_process]

@@skeltek7487 First and foremost, I want to clarify that I'm not claiming to have made any groundbreaking discoveries here; it's simply an interesting concept to contemplate. I'm specifically discussing my simulated numerical models, where it's essential to note that there cannot be an infinite number of particles within a finite space and these particles interact solely with their neighbors within a small finite area. The key point is that computational efficiency isn't solely achieved by particles physically moving away from each other. Let's consider a scenario: imagine a square of 10,000 particles (my models operate in 2D) being impacted by a fast-moving projectile consisting of, let's say, 1,000 particles. We could employ a single time step value (whether fixed or dynamically calculated) for the entire system, but that would be inefficient. This inefficiency arises because there's a delay between the impact and the energy from it reaching the far end of our bulk mass. In theory, we can continue integrating the particle equations on this "cold" end with larger time steps (or perform fewer computational substeps, which is essentially the same thing) until the shock wave of the impact reaches them, without introducing significant numerical errors or instability. The same principle applies to the projectile. Even if it possesses a very high velocity relative to the bulk mass and has the same particle density, we can still integrate its equations with larger time steps until it reaches this mass, as the energies of its particles in relation to their neighbors remain relatively low. This situation leads to the realization that different areas (even with similar particle density) should be computed with different "local time steps" based on local energy density, which has the effect of 'time dilation'. I hope this clarifies things a bit.

[@djayjp]

"More evenly distributed energy"=entropy.

[@debuggers_process]

@@djayjp Exactly my point) And local time step sizes depending on local energy density = time dilation (in this discrete numeric model - it has built-in 'speed of light' limit as it is computed in discrete time steps). Also, interesting thing to ponder - I am using neural network to compute dynamics instead of traditional numeric integration, and the "goodnes" of model, performing this computations, the thing that we need to optimize during the network training, can be computed as deviation of the total energy of the system, dE, multiplied by the length of time step it performed, t, which has the same units as the action - the joules-seconds.

[@djayjp]

@@debuggers_process Yeah makes sense. Interesting idea. Never heard of someone using ML for cosmology. Not sure what benefit doing so would have except maybe making such simulations more efficient or faster than traditional computational methods using physical theory. Of course one is giving up accuracy so it's a trade-off.

[@Urbizzo]

One night I too was thinking about the universe. With my thoughts I was far out where there is no up nor down - there was no direction, and I was 'lost'. But after a while, close to me, there apaear a POINT. It was absolute and well defined. Everything was big and empty and no direction, until there came this POINT. This POINT has been with me ever since than. I think I had to come out there with my consiusness to find the POINT.

[@jacka602]

Was connecting to this Point simulteanous with abandoning your frames of reference? I've had a similar euphoric experience on LSD

[@101personal]

What an excellent subject for a contemplative weekend! A heartfelt thank you to Sabine for keeping us intellectually engaged and endlessly inquisitive about the captivating themes that 21st-century philosophy, bolstered by the scaffolding of science, brings into being. Best regards from Mexico City. Please let us know when you will hold a live event. Thanks 🌟📚🧐"

[@termination9353]

666 The point of Earth/Nature is that it generates feelings and experiences in its human population (Off the sweat of thy brow shall you taste bread). First seven prime numbers squared added up = 666. What will it be to be being = Human? Enter

[@mysticone1798]

Great that you are self-satisfied with a pointless universe but there's only one problem. Philosophy isn't science, and science isn't philosophy though it often pretends to be in godless societies. Do you see how that works???

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is the fire of hell."..

[@termination9353]

@@iva-ox2qn You are mistaken to say we are God’s minor experiment. We are the major experiment that the whole universe revolves around.

[@mysticone1798]

@@iva-ox2qn Sabine and her fans put a lot of effort into seeing a godless, "pointless" universe, given all the beauty and wonder that surrounds them!

[@mikehart5619]

I refer you to the movie "The Point" and as Oblio discovered having navigated through The Pointless Forest, "You don't have to have a point to have a point."

[@strawpiglet]

I kept thinking of The Point, too. In the album that predated the movie, the final revelation was simply that since everything has a point, Oblio must have one, too.

[@tacitozetticci9308]

What's the point if your point is schizophrenic?

[@prtauvers]

The Ultimate Outcome of the Universe, I thought, was heat death, and any intermediate spontaneous or evolved complexity is just noise in that full arc of this particular Penrosian aeon. I love your point that meaning requires conscious intent- and our Universe, so vast and dark, hardly seems purposeful or even agentic…it just is.

[@mikemondano3624]

When time comes to an end and no further events occur, any attempt to find meaning is moot.

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@mikemondano3624]

@@iva-ox2qn SPAM. Copied and pasted.

[@allwheeldrive]

It just is ... for humans. And, since there are no other options, we need to embrace our perceived "shortcomings" and get on with life as it is known to us.

[@ocsplc]

This is more of a philosophical, moral and theological question than one of just science.

[@Kubose]

I've always thought of questions about the point of existence or of the universe in the same way as asking about the point of a mountain. It's just there, and that might just be all there is to it. We can explain how it came to be and what it's existence does, but there probably isn't some grand intentional universe strategy guiding everything, stuff just interacts in a way that makes other stuff. Humans have enough curiosity and intelligence to see that happen at every scale we can observe, and just like we do as children when we didn't know anything about the human world, we encounter something we don't understand and ask "why?", to which the universe silently says "because, now shut up and do your homework". I like this point of view because it just skips a lot of the headache of caring. I could spend my entire lifetime writing about this topic, but I'll just be dead at the end, just like all those who came before. There isn't a right question I could ask the Universe that would unlock the ultimate truth, because the problem only exists within the roughly 12 watts of electricity inside the meat of my skull.

[@condelevante4]

Ah but the mountain has a role to play in the unfolding drama of space time. Maybe not a very interesting or influential one but one none the less. It doesn’t matter that we don’t understand. Why should we only more than why should a gorilla understand Fourier transformations. We are not evolved to understand big concepts, we evolved because because complexity is the Universes answer to entropy.

[@commentingaccount1383]

It is hard, as a human consciousness, to understand and accept that we "just are," since everything we experience in our day to day lives would lead us to believe that there is some cause, some action that can explain everything we experience. Our minds evolved to navigate the world we exist in, and understanding cause and effect, being able to identify and parse these patterns, is a defining characteristic of our minds. We are creatures that are immersed in our subjective meaning-space. Many of us believe what we perceive around us as being some sort of objective truth about reality. It's hard to accept that consciousness, perception, awareness, etc., is something illusory. In a way, it is not even 'real.' It is a very clever trick our neurons are pulling in order to help us survive and thrive. In the end, there is no fundamental difference between conscious amalgamations of matter and energy, and unconscious ones. Nor living and non-living. Our minds are white caps on the surface of a churning, roiling ocean of living matter, and the material and energy that generate us will be subsumed and dispersed once more to the deep. So I try not to worry myself about life having meaning or not. The Answer doesn't matter. It doesn't change the situation at all.

[@SteelDown]

The point of life is to grow ultimately. Even a house plant can tell you that. We are all already doing it .

[@SteelDown]

​​@@commentingaccount1383 Unfortunately thats not the case. Soon as "God" sees this isnt going to work out. God is going to pull the plug because there isnt any point in continuing all the suffering. We have purpose, but many of us choose not to walk our true life path, so are left feeling like something is missing.

[@vladimirseven777]

As humans we also trying to apply ourselves to everything - who is in charge, the hierarchy of everything, do Universe love me, is Math is God of scientists?

[@88888888tiago]

Congrats on 1M. Well deserved.

[@TheMisterGriswold]

It's an awesome channel.

[@ZMattStudio]

One of the things I always come back to is a pretty basic consequence of algebra - for any finite set of data points used to predict infinite possible points, the number of possible equations that fit that data (and by extension, end up matching the predictions that will be tested) are themselves functionally infinite. The scientific method is incapable of coming up with “the only answer”, it gives us an answer that is good enough, until it isn’t.

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@kyjo72682]

​@@iva-ox2qn How exactly is your comment related to algebra and limits of scientific method in the context of finite datasets? Because I don't see any connection..

[@460Chris]

Steven Weinberg is also my favorite contemporary physicist. He signed my copy of his book The Quantum Theory of Fields

[@SlightyLessEvolved]

Thank you for covering this - it has long been a pet peeve of mine. "What is the meaning of life" isn't a profound question, it's a *trick* question.

[@paulbloemen7256]

I always say: Life has no meaning, but my life does.

[@termination9353]

666 The point of Earth/Nature is that it generates feelings and experiences in its human population (Off the sweat of thy brow shall you taste bread). First seven prime numbers squared added up = 666. What will it be to be being = Human? Enter

[@gzoechi]

Life has no meaning. All you can do is to make it feel meaningful. In physics it's a trick question, in philosophy or psychology it isn't.

[@termination9353]

@@gzoechi Which was your last statement, physics or philosophy? You say physics is separate from philosophy. Yet a Nobel physicist is the one that this whole vid discussion of “purpose” is based on. If you are not including the concept of consciousness into your physics equations you are missing part of the equation and therefore will not spit out an answer that comports with reality.

[@paulbloemen7256]

@@termination9353 I didn’t know that physics was personal (“your” physics), thank you for the insight! To a certain extent, physics is used to find out what works and what not, to explain what you see, to prove some coherence between phenomena. So there is always consciousness in physics, or you couldn’t see, prove. Stressing this point thus seems meaningless to me. But maybe this is “my” physics?

[@TedToal_TedToal]

There are so many huge unknowns remaining about the universe that I think it’s way too early to suspect that it has no purpose. Maybe the question about purpose is really the same question as “why is there not nothing?”

[@ManiBalajiC]

Well existing proves that there can't be nothing, even though we just started out on answering bigger questions some are very easy to Guess like the purpose cause it's just too big and empty to have any specific meaning..

[@ArjanKop]

Even if there were a purpose, our method of finding it is insufficient. Science is not capable of finding purpose in anything.

[@clam4597]

You can know that purposes doesn't exit. Purpose is for something always. Eventually that something has nothing to serve.

[@Braun09tv]

​@@ArjanKopnot true, science can explain the purpose of many things. The purpose of the universe can only be to fill the gap between zero and infinity. It is that simple.

[@Mystipaoniz]

Maybe there is nothing at the same time, but we have a brain, so we can "see" that there is something instead of nothing ^^

[@rjwagz]

Up vote for Sabine taking a therapeutic dose of psychedelics in an appropriate setting, and reporting on her findings 👍

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is the fire of hell."..

[@jarichards99utube]

I believe It is a mistake for humans to question the MEANING of their life by looking for The Purpose of The Universe (an External Justification). Rather, it is our "Job" to create our Own PURPOSE in Life (an Internal Justification). WE have the ability to decide HOW to Life our live and what Consequences & Meaning we will produce in This World. -Stay Well -70SomethingGuy

[@beammeupscotty3074]

IN ORDER TO ATTAIN MEANING IN LIFE SPEND ALL YOUR TIME READING THOUSANDS OF BOOKS THAT PROVE THAT LIFE HAS NO MEANING, THEN YOU WILL HAVE NOT WASTED YOUR WHOLE LIFE THINKING THAT LIFE HAS ANY MEANING.

[@sundaydriver915]

reality is not only stranger than we think, it’s stranger than we can think

[@Mandragara]

Our language is not rich enough to describe the universe.

[@judyhawkins6584]

I thnk that the itch to find a purpose or a point tells us more about ourselves than about the universe. Mathematical theories are only ever an approximation, and that approximation breaking down is where a lot of the most interesting questions show up.

[@SMC01ful]

Absolutely correct. It doesn't need to have a point, or a central theme, it's the damn universe. We can give it purpose, individually and collectively, but this is based on our need for understanding, or approximation, as you put it. Furthermore, hell, this is just our infinitely massive universe. We haven't even broken bad with alternative dimensions, mirror galaxies, hell, mirror universes, good lord. it's incredible, we'll never figure it out, but we'll hve fun no doubt.

[@mmmarccco]

He's got a point there.

[@beammeupscotty3074]

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[@TolaRat]

You always amaze me Sabine. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, thoughts and values. You’re a great human.

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@Hawkwood100]

Question: Why is the universe here? Answer: Where else would it be?

[@adamd9798]

I absolutely love your channel!! I'm a new subscriber. I listen at work everyday now to your previous videos. I love to learn, hear all the science and your opinions, I love the comedy you throw in when least expected, and I really love your speech and vocabulary. You have a amazing talent to teach and keep me fully tuned in right till the end of the video. I even love the Brilliant ads bc you make recommendations. I am totally hooked and look forward to more!

[@RavingFan]

yes, great german comedian n scientist :D

[@spaceman4286]

I liked Prof. John Lennox's argument on this topic; "Even the best Nobel prize winners can't tell you, by analyzing a cake, why it was made for. But aunt Matilda that made the cake can tell you why it was made for."

[@Guy-Lewis]

Isn't the quote closer to: "Even the best Nobel prize winners can't tell you, by analyzing a cake, why it was made. But aunt Matilda, who made the cake, can tell you why it was made and for whom." .... ?

[@Unknown-jt1jo]

@@Guy-LewisThat's a critical and important correction. Thanks for pointing out the error.

[@spaceman4286]

@@Guy-Lewis Yep, i think so!

[@Mandragara]

That is a overly complicated 'can't get an ought from an is' rephrasing

[@drgetwrekt869]

there is no aunt matilda here.

[@TheChillennial]

I love it when people that know what they are talking about, talk about it. 💚

[@Mikesniezek]

Let's make it a rule.

[@bobnewmanknott3433]

so do I but that's not the case here !

[@markb3786]

@@bobnewmanknott3433 would have been a better post if you offered an argument

[@bobnewmanknott3433]

Do you believe that men's nipples are of no use ? if you do your sex life is wanting ! have a great day @@markb3786

[@judobongobuck]

Therefore, she did.

[@DakumaMusic]

I’ve wondered why the universe existed for years and finally have come up with a simple solution. “Absolute nothingness is impossible, therefore, everything.” - love your content Sabine ❤

[@williams.vincent4235]

Wow! I'm so glad I stumbled across your channel as many of the things you say, the ideas you convey really resonate with me. Very, very thought-provking ideas and I look forward to hearing more.

[@donaldmcronald8989]

She's great

[@kentbetts]

That the purpose may be to increase complexity .... thinking of a far advanced culture where computational complexity is greater than biological complexity. That would be a significant accomplishment. Stanley Kubrick and Spielberg suggested this in the closing scenes of AI. Silicon based autonomous computers who achieved consciousness which, not being alive in a normal sense, were still definitely weird.

[@harpritgrewal7987]

Thank you Sabine. I have just found this channel and enjoy it immensely. What’s the point of the Universe? It’s so we can make a video about it.

[@christopherellis2663]

It's so that we...

[@onemoremisfit]

As a kid my first teleological explanation was a Bill Cosby standup routine where he answered the question "why is there air" with "so we can fill up basketballs".

[@wet-read]

Teleology is Metaphysics *ON BLACK ICE*

[@beammeupscotty3074]

GOD TOLD THE WORLD THAT IN ORDER TO ATTAIN MEANING IN LIFE SPEND ALL YOUR TIME READING THOUSANDS OF BOOKS THAT PROVE LIFE THAT HAS NO MEANING, THEN YOU WILL HAVE NOT WASTED YOUR WHOLE LIFE THINKING THAT LIFE HAS ANY MEANING.

[@universalbeing1289]

The point of the universe is to be the universe. "I am that I am".

[@harenterberge2632]

Popeye is the universe?

[@guydreamr]

And if that's not enough, the universe has a follow up answer: "I will be what I will be."

[@nicolasdelaforge7420]

universalbeing1289... and since consciousness IS, it is the highest instance - since it knows that the universe exists. Even so, it remains unintelligible - as the Biblical God said: your understanding is not My Understanding. We can't get it. Never. For ever. What a situation to be in!

[@matthewguzda4075]

That was God's reply to Moses, I am what I am. Which is exactly what Popeye says. You make the connection.

[@harenterberge2632]

@@matthewguzda4075 They are both fictional characters.

[@donaldstrachan7377]

I believe the universe simply obeys rules that we somewhat understand and call physics. It is apparent that some of the rules of the universe allow for reflective human beings who then can pose questions regarding the point or pointlessness of said universe. But point or pointlessness is just something humans ponder, I don't believe that the vast bulk of the universe has that capacity.

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

Totally agree. I say this all the time. ❤

[@jonaseggen2230]

One could imagining the universe in the shape of a sea ​​urchin. Still pointless, but at least pointy.

[@randypage26]

We are the universe, the point of it all is love

[@karlschmied6218]

@@randypage26 Love is a thing we share with some other animals and it has limits.

[@ThePmloc]

What point are you making?

[@sprightlyrandom1550]

So we happen to live in a universe perfect for black holes and if black holes are assumed to create new universes then universes with many black holes like ours would become dominant. Sounds like it relates to what entropy is all about; something is more likely to fall into a state of which there are more possible arrangement, in this case more possible universes. Ngl from first glance that theory sounds pretty interesting

[@kennethjessop6073]

But it does seem a very elaborate way to go about things.

[@Hunpecked]

Don't black holes eventually evaporate?

[@kennethjessop6073]

@@Hunpecked Disappears up its new universe?

[@sprightlyrandom1550]

@@Hunpecked yes they do, so that could result in the end of a universe or not, I guess we just don’t know. My initial intuition would be to say what we observe in this universe (black holes evaporating) has no connection to the other universe, other than the connection of setting off a Big Bang in the other universe. Complete speculation and I’m literally just a layperson but it’s fun to think about lol

[@KosmicJelly]

As a male who indeed has nipples, and who has subjected said anatomy to cold temperatures, I can assure you Sabine, they are not *always* “pointless”.

[@JackPullen-Paradox]

Are they pointless on a woman who has never had children?

[@hah-vj7hc]

@@JackPullen-Paradox Yes... But as men, we can give them meaning anyway, can't we

[@woodygilson3465]

I see what you did there. 😆

[@retinaofthemindseye]

Sabine: Male nipples are pointless. Me: Tell that to my unisex nipple clamps.

[@eliassalomaohelouneto8358]

Nipples are actually pointy, which is the opposite of pointless

[@joshuacornelius25]

The point of the universe is to invoke the question "What is the point of the universe?" And it is has fulfilled it's purpose perfectly.

[@muuubiee]

And so it will no cease?

[@joshuacornelius25]

@@muuubiee only when it's satisfied.

[@JorgeMartinez-xb2ks]

According to Einstein's Block Universe hypothesis, the universe is a movie already filmed. So according to this we are simply observers who happen to be experiencing the show one second per second. The universe doesn't need us to exist or experience anything, but we are simply part of the show at this particular moment in space-time.

[@MichalToporcer]

Wrong, we living the most recent frame. Its computing right now. Having all the information you could say what will happen - but you would have to compute it first, and we are first computational frame. So yes and no, it is also possible and impossible to know the future.

[@sibbyeskie]

@@MichalToporcerthat seems inconsistent. If the information already exists then it doesn’t need to be computed. You can have a function to produce any prime number, but that function doesn’t already have the results stored that it just looks up. It needs to be computed. If the universe has all of the results stored in some block, then it doesn’t require a computation. More likely, the universe has no requirement to fit the modes of understanding native to apes.

[@jimgraham6722]

Indeed, I wonder how big the audience is.

[@jeffryphillipsburns]

Glad to see Sabine on track, discussing physics. Re: David Deutsch: I read his book “The Fabric of Reality” several decades ago and decided he was only loosely connected to it.

[@YouWinILose]

This made me chuckle!

[@robertmuller1523]

Personally, I really appreciate Sabine's highly intelligent contributions on topics outside of physics. But for the anti-capitalist STEM mainstream, with its collectivist penchant for central planning, Sabine's value-free pragmatism must be difficult to stomach.

[@Mandragara]

​​@@robertmuller1523I think you're projecting too much of yourself onto Sabine. Her takes are fairly typical physics professor takes. Maybe the difference is that she is a proper scientist and not a science communicator with a dusty PhD.

[@robertmuller1523]

@@Mandragara Sabine literally made a video called “Capitalism is good”. In my experience, this clear positioning is likely to be controversial among physics professors, and in the comments there was a hail of criticism from the anti-capitalist faction.

[@Mandragara]

@@robertmuller1523 That video was an endorsement of bog-standard mixed market economic systems. She espoused a generic centre-left 'German' take. She wasn't beating a drum for the free market American style capitalist. I agree there was a lot of disagreement in the comments, but the comment section isn't majority physics professors. I imagine most students would be annoyed at their professors political takes. I'm personally a physics post doctoral researcher, so I can comment a bit on the politics of my School. Most people, especially those of professor age, are just generic centre-left types. Water cooler debates on the Arts are typically over more fundamental issues than capitalism vs socialism. The conversations are more like this video. What is the point of the universe? Define point.

[@FallenKing13]

Space: Let’s asteroid Earth. Me 66m years later: Let’s nuke space. Space: Yeah, you got a point.

[@fredericdewitt1208]

Why does the Universe have to have a "point"? Sabine, you get me in more trouble when you speak of Gravity as a force as in this video. Love your work, thank you.

[@MichaelJohnson-dt8tv]

@fredericdewitt1208- Yeah. And from whose perspective? Because if from our perspective, then it’s completely pointless, since we are also pointless.

[@ryuhadouken1404]

​@MichaelJohnson-dt8tv if we are pointless why was it created?

[@MichaelJohnson-dt8tv]

⁠​⁠@@ryuhadouken1404- Have you considered the possibility that there is absolutely no reason for the existence of the Universe, and all its components, including you and me? It seems that Mankind has need for reasons and other parameters just for self justification and confirmation. But the “reason” for the existence of the Universe could be as simple as it’s just the result of all the required conditions being present at the proper time. There need not be any conscious purpose. But it might help to acknowledge that we, as is everything else, are components of the Universe. And unlike some other components of the Universe, we possess consciousness and awareness. So, could our consciousness be in part the consciousness of the Universe itself? People who follow different types of meditation tend to divert their consciousness from themselves, and they seem to attain a different plane of consciousness. To address your initial question, it just seems that a requirement for there to be a “point” would itself be pointless from a Universal perspective.

[@ryuhadouken1404]

@@MichaelJohnson-dt8tv interesting, has the universe always existed?

[@knyghtryder3599]

​@@ryuhadouken1404there is not one scrap of proof that the universe was created, this is just religious mumbo jumbo We see no evidence of a time before the universe, we have no plausible alternative to the known universe 100% of empirical evidence points to an infinite eternal universe with no end and no beginning

[@wadeedden4552]

I like to hear your opinion on existential issues. Sabine, you are knowledgeable about diverse subjects.

[@objectivetruth2286]

She has a team of writers.

[@vamsidocs5137]

For now i can say this that if ur brain is able to imagine the dread of all this, ur brain also has the capacity to live on without feeling any existential issues. So keeo in mind to keep ur brain healthy. Dont drink Alcohol nd take added sugar

[@rd-tb1uw]

As a child i was always full of wonder experiencing each day with a sense of adventure. As a senior who has experienced what life has to offer. I think about those days and realize that sense of wonder is what is missing. If the mystery of the universe was something we could solve our sense of wonder would be lost.

[@WitoldBanasik]

Keep it that way, Sir. This is your way to keep your smart head above the water level. Yet still there are some other people leading their priceless lives differently. Hallelujah !

[@sclarke4870]

Love your work Sabine

[@BrightMessyWorld]

I have heard Weinberg's comment before and always thought he was referring to the lack of free will in some theories. It implies that human activity is pointless, or that the universe is pointless from a human point of view. I feel there is a lot more to learn before we fully embrace that we are merely pre-programmed automatons playing out a script in a bad movie. :) Great video. Thanks!

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@jenathent4840]

@@iva-ox2qn no. None of that is real

[@knyghtryder3599]

​@@iva-ox2qngod has been disproven decades ago by mobile phones and GPS

[@haraldtheyounger5504]

Ultimately it is pointless, but that's alright. Those who look for meaning simply tangle themselves up in an unnecessary mess. We are alive, so live. You can't live if thought is attempting to control, to shape, to dominate.

[@beammeupscotty3074]

GOD TOLD THE WORLD THAT IN ORDER TO ATTAIN MEANING IN LIFE SPEND ALL YOUR TIME READING THOUSANDS OF BOOKS THAT PROVE LIFE THAT HAS NO MEANING, THEN YOU WILL HAVE NOT WASTED YOUR WHOLE LIFE THINKING THAT LIFE HAS ANY MEANING.

[@knyghtryder3599]

Agree 👍👍👍

[@beammeupscotty3074]

THE POINT OF THE BROKEN COMPUTER UNIVERSE WE LIVE IN IS TO PISS EVERYONE OFF AND MAKE EVERYONE REALIZE THAT PISSING EVERYONE OFF IS THE POINT OF THE BROKEN COMPUTER UNIVERSE WE LIVE IN...(The Blind Forces Comedy Troupe)

[@haraldtheyounger5504]

@@beammeupscotty3074 Which is total nonsense, as we can only piss our self off by being a self centred brat.

[@judobongobuck]

But still, why isn't there nothing instead of this???

[@BrianFedirko]

The concept that black holes existed before the Big Bang has my brain in overdrive. Sabine Rocks!!!☮

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@BrianFedirko]

@@iva-ox2qn hmm, fire of hell... so there's oxygen there. good to know, as my unicorn seems to thrive on the stuff. can't get enough. but I think The Flying Spagetti Monster offers it too, and speaks of your same words. ☮ 😀

[@tommelly6139]

I've always liked the Babylon 5 take on this - "The molecules of your body are the same molecules that make up this station, and the nebula outside, that burn inside the stars themselves. We are starstuff. We are the universe made manifest, trying to figure itself out."

[@dzenacs2011]

Universe is pointmore

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."..

[@ChristoferKelly]

​@@iva-ox2qn It seems there's actually nothing into which someone can't come along and inject religion, purely for the desire of making everyone's day a little bit worse than it started. At least people who smoke cigarettes ask politely first _"Do you mind if I smoke?"_ It's the least one ought to feel obligated to do before filling the space in the vicinity with harmful, man-made toxins that people can soon become dependent on. I'm not saying religion does this, although it does.

[@justvideos3216]

13:04 "it's science, not math."

[@ruudvdlinden]

Thank you for this video and specifically the stuff about the multiverse. The assumption that all other values exist as well is wild and has extremely big consequences for every assumption we can make about a ground truth in the universe (e.g. available computing capacity, given that our universe functions as a big computer) -- the fact that this is so widely accepted in the scientific community is truly baffling. We may never be able to find the true meaning of our universe. I often think of the Rick and Morty episode where Rick uses a universe to power his car battery. For some reason it felt like this may touch on the reason of our existence. What if all of this is some intricate particle simulation within a computer that's in a -for us- incomprehensible ground truth? Life in that ground truth may know why they exist, and might experiment on creating other life forms for scientific purposes, or maybe just because they feel lonely. Maybe we're some simulation that's another species' path to Artificial General Intelligence (through the creation of an entire universe). In some or many of these cases we would never be able to find out what the ground truth is, if the fabric of our spacetime is well built.

[@Notfiveo0]

The point is that humans are most likely a fluke of the universe.

[@chrisbarlow2131]

​@@Notfiveo0A fluke? Please explain.

[@RoRo-we4ev]

Okay... This is going to be a little out of the pocket, but this video made me write a whole paragraph about the meaning of life :') Here it goes: What are we living inside of? What is this "universe" made of? What are we a part of? Sometimes I phase out, I get bothered with these questions out of nowhere. Then, I see some message on my phone, muscle memory -the autopilot- takes over and I become my normal self again. However, will I ever find any resolution on this? It's hard to say yes. I'm only another curious human in our million years run. I've been reading "De Rerum Natura" by Lucretius, and it ignited a realization in me. We didn't make as much progress as we want to believe. We're acting like we live in a totally different world than they did, but that is an exaggeration. We still don't know one bit about how this system has come to be. Lately, I don't believe that we're supposed to find out. This curiosity only exist for us to become a more developed civilization. This curiosity only exists because it has been beneficial for our survival, it contributes to our natural selection. There is no deeper meaning, no matter how much we're inclined to search for it. This search probably will keep us extant for longer; thus, it will not end any time soon. Life doesn't have a point until you make one on your own. Purpose is not something you were born with, it's something you obtain along the way. Do you believe you're living for the same thing that you used to do as a schoolkid? I must say I am a totally different person. Everything changes, and there are infinite mysteries for us to unveil until the dusk of our kind. Finally, our run, may it be a long one...

[@abbiebeast]

Simply put: It really all boils down too if you're A) Spiritual by nature, or B) Worship the natural order around you.

[@okinasevych]

I appreciate your enthusiasm, Sabine. thank you. best wishes.

[@FAAMS1]

Teaching the 101 basics of Philosophy of Science to fellow Physicists...most excellent!

[@protocol6]

My thought on the point of stars is that, in an expanding universe, something has to extract heat from most of the matter and distribute it to the intergalactic medium at a high enough rate to match the expansion of the universe since there is no external source of heat. That begs the question, what is the point of expansion; but that seems to just be a requirement of geometry as soon as you allow for the possibility of change. So you could say the point of expansion is to allow for change.

[@jimphillippi616]

If the universe has a purpose then, by definition, it is conscious.

[@healthysickguy4]

The universe is conscious because we are and we are the universe.

[@jimphillippi616]

@@healthysickguy4 We're only pieces - there's one consciousness spanning the universe. Each of us has a direct connection to it if we would but not deny it.

[@hardywoodaway9912]

The Question with what‘s the point of something starts with the questioner. things are just there, we make up purposes

[@alecouto]

Hi Sabine, I love your vídeos, they are always straight to the *point*

[@iva-ox2qn]

The universe is God's laboratory , He Elohim/ God is a chief experimenter and we humans are minor experimenters , for its written in the bible YESHUAH ELOHIM (Father and His Son) look down on men to see if there's anyone wise anyone searching for the way , the truth and the life , and in quran it's written " WE did not create the universe without " purpose " that's the assumption of those who disbelieve ,but we created the universe as the testimony of the Truth , so woe to those who disbelieve for to them is fire of hell."

[@robertmward7272]

The male nipple has a point. The point of the male nipple is its tip.

[@ghostdreamer7272]

I like the idea that the point is the universe learning to know itself.

[@aarone9000]

Caral Sagon! ❤

[@judobongobuck]

Exactly! By Goerge I think you've got it! Now, would you please screw my head back on by body, I'm late for class.

[@Thomas-gk42]

What an epic lecture, fabulous!

[@garybarr1045]

Very good "point" of discussion. Thank you.

[@judobongobuck]

The further away you are from the Point, the smaller you get.

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

In general, the purpose of the universe, as judged by what it does, is to move by various paths from low entropy states to higher ones.

[@KpxUrz5745]

Defining purpose as its ultimate outcome? That is like saying the purpose of a human being is to decay and return an unimpressive small assortment of ordinary elements to the location of demise. Achieving higher entropy says nothing about purpose.

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

@@KpxUrz5745 In a way you are right. But I make that comment from the position that that is the best answer you are going to get without introducing an unwarrented anthropomorphic perspective. And if one insists on introducing an anthropomorphic perspective, then anybody's claim is as good as another's.

[@ricomajestic]

Doesn't answer anything.

[@KpxUrz5745]

@@arthurwieczorek4894 Yes, agreed. Any anthropomorphic perspective is not only unwarranted, but presumptuous in the extreme, not to mention just ridiculous.

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

@@KpxUrz5745 Theism as anthropomorphizing; of course. I never put those two together before!

[@nova_supreme8390]

The universe is full of points so claiming it is pointless is absurd. There is infinite amount of them even so we can all have our very own point without having to share while still being able to pick different one if the old one stops feeling special enough.

[@wamingo]

you may have a point

[@nusu5331]

name at least one please

[@hugegamer5988]

Exactly, imagine living in a universe where some being forced it’s will upon you. That is a literal hell. We are free to pick our own point even if everything flows from some “simple” mathematical principles.

[@zahardzhan]

The universe as a whole may not have a purpose, but we are part of the universe and we can create a purpose for ourselves, so some parts of the universe already have a purpose.

[@lrwerewolf]

Let me introduce you to Emil Cioran and Albert Camus. We only lie to ourselves when we imagine our lives have purpose.

[@cabudagavin3896]

All of our purposes are derived from some naturally occurring purpose, which in itself was just a continuation of that which could continue. That which continued would continue to continue, and that which was better at that continued more. All of our emotions evolved after that for that. It is not purpose, it just is, and it is for that fact, that our bodies have no purpose, that we cannot give our lives purpose, happiness is just an elaborate plot to reproduce ;). There is a lot of religion surrounding this, part of me likes the idea that there is no purpose, and no purpose can be prescribed, some view that as horrible, but I dont know, perhaps purpose can be a taint, stripping beauty. like knowing the ending but worse. To be bound to purpose is to be a slave, to create your own purpose is to be your own slave, those whose lives are meaningless are the only free things. ? Why do you love? I dont think there is a purpose to love, that it is for its own sake. Hate too I suppose, but if there is no purpose to either, why not just love? I feel like hate cannot be self referential in the same way that love is, like you love love, because love is love, but hate is a rejection of something, you cannot hate hate, because hating hate in its stable form is love, but loving love is love...

[@t.c.2776]

@@lrwerewolf or that our lives even have much meaning to the universe in general... to believe we are important and the highest for of intelligence is the ultimate in narcissistic arrogance...

[@lrvogt1257]

@@lrwerewolf : I would say that we lie to ourselves if when we imagine our lives have some external source of purpose. We determine our own purpose.

[@link9s_xbc588]

Cliche

[@markharris1223]

I regularly expose myself to concepts on your channel which I have no hope of understanding. By contrrast, the alleged pointlessness of the universe is no problem.

[@_I_Am_Become_Life]

The universe is very slowly learning how to love itself. So far, it's been a pretty bumpy ride.

[@theostapel]

Without love - there is no deeper/deepest meaning for the heart/mind - and for the human being. Science - without love - is just - dry and complicated thoughts - human experience qualified and condensed - fought over and temporarily upheld - until inevitable change - sweeps this away - too. Yet love harmonises and reveals - subtlety and simplicity - of the Essence - of the Beloved. Observing the crisis - in science and physics today - it has to happen - as duality - is ingrained within - this system of knowledge. Love - cannot be wished away - real seekers - will always - experience its wholeness and even Essence. May it be so Fare thee well.

[@_I_Am_Become_Life]

@@theostapel Very nicely put!

[@howmathematicianscreatemat9226]

Well, most people believe politicians and CEOs love themselves… WRONG. It’s only superficial love. Real love would prioritize life over money..

[@theostapel]

Correct - may these thoughts/actions and experiences (expressed) - reveal - the subtlest and ever lively way of love - in one's life and then - even - the real Life - within - life. There is also science therein - but love is the abiding and more fruitful - for humans. Fare thee well.@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226