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Intro 0:00
Arcane Odyssey 1:18
World Zero: 6:29
Vesteria 10:27
Final Thoughts 17:21
#roblox #mmorpg #robloxrpg #worldzero #arcaneodyssey #vesteria

[@SlavMartien]

Seems to be a lot of Arcane Odyssey Enjoyers who watched this video, I'll defiantly give it a full review some day, once I'm done with my FFXIV review. If you're someone who hasn't commented yet, I've been told they removed the bandit beating quests and supposably repeatable quests in general, which I'm very much in favor of, as well as added newer content to do to get gear.

[@CallMePipani]

They have indeed removed repeatable quests (yes i am an arcane odyssey fan)

[@Ethan100th2]

ARCANE ODYSSEY FOR LIFE

[@Deveshkha]

Content to get gear is the same, just open chests until you get something good.

[@amusician644]

to clear up some of your negatives on AO. Lack of content is due to it being early access(not a full release cause Vetex knows he cant call it that). Dead servers because your in Nimbus sea which is incomplete with only a couple Islands and one main hub which can easily result in people farming other players(also the lag generated by a bunch of people with big AOE's on one island fighting each other at the same time is not gonna be good). The bosses in my opinion are ok tho I do agree the jump between the bronze sea final boss and every boss before him is immense but bosses do have attack patterns that are easy to read, the only problem is that boss fights are easier with magic while if your using fighting styles your gonna be in a world of hurt.

[@Deveshkha]

@@amusician644 stop the copy and pasting

[@1stDrone]

Dude... arcane odyssey AI is good. The dev was smart about the npcs being completely randomized like humans irl making the AI even more stunning

[@ThatSilhouetteCat]

idk what you mean but i think that was WoM,,, (World of Magic)

[@DenseMelon]

have... have we played the same arcane odyssey?

[@Lapisassn3gro]

​@@ThatSilhouetteCat world of magic and ao have the same ai, theyre literally made by the same dev

[@issa299]

the ai is basic and clunky, if you want the most of this experience try playing as a criminal and see how unoptimized navy encounters can be

[@RacismLivesMatter]

​@@DenseMelononly time i see bad ai is just some dumb sharks become vegetative stage after i shot them once. But still ao ai is advance as hell, they even know how to aim and predict your movement to even combo and timing you like those high level rival and insanity 1-3 atlanteans, sure ofc they can get stuck sometimes but is it even a problem?

[@tearsofIink]

Also, they removed the needing to level to a certain level for story and no more repeatable quests.

[@CallMePipani]

oh yeah they did that, no more getting stuck at sailors lodge

[@amusician644]

@@CallMePipani not unless an assassin is farming low levels. I swear its either Talos or Sailors. But free kills for me since they usually cant fight someone their own size.

[@vibewebyt2293]

​@@amusician644 I Honestly never seen any assasin do that b4 in my entire play through.

[@amusician644]

@@vibewebyt2293 Lucky but also unlucky since if your maxed out they are free kills and nobody but them will complain.

[@chad10yearsago45]

They should add different variety quest per level like collecting stuff, killing stuff, or escorting stuff and more

[@zerovsgaming6729]

to be more accurate, Arcane Reborn is the unofficial remake of Arcane Adventures, Arcane Odyssey is the true successor of Arcane Adventures not Reborn since one game is unfortunately discontinued due to a Roblox update breaking the game entirely and the other is a remake NOT made by Vetex. I'm hoping that AO does not suffer the same fate as AA due to a game breaking update on the platform.

[@amusician644]

Hopefully. If AO dies because of roblox, we would probably get a reupload with Nimbus and maybe Virmir sea completed and thats it. Or no reuploads and we all go to world of magic to be bullied by the level five ten thousands.

[@vekazu_is_great_guy]

​@@amusician644nimbus sea part 1 is already out tho

[@arceyplayz]

Yea, AR is just a spin-off made by fans, not an official title

[@nimpsonkinkson1924]

​@@vekazu_is_great_guy he just means if another roblox update breaks AO and vetex can't fix it

[@mihacool2439]

Anyone remember World of magic?

[@KrazyKF]

arcane odyssey's stats are less of a generic stat page and more of a class selection page

[@Briggy.Bateau]

amen to that brother

[@freshacado4304]

the class selection having mixed options is so cool

[@arceyplayz]

The main difference that World Zero and Arcane Odyssey has against Vesteria is that there is an actual goal in AO and WZ, meanwhile in Vesteria... When I first played it I was literally clueless on how to get gear, where to even FIND enemies and where to get quests. I had to go and search through KZbin just to figure out how to play, which is probably why it isn't as popular as other MMORPG's as there isn't really an endgame goal.

[@charles_ent]

I quit vesteria cause i was really confused on how to play it yeah

[@Syr3i]

Vesteria sucks overall

[@lapizgaming3263]

Vesterias endgamr goal is gambling

[@fitmotheyap]

​@@lapizgaming3263 this, events are meta and some meta items unobtainable due to that, I stayed up every night for the frozen yeti event and didn't get the mythic icicle I wanted, it felt good to just NOT play it anymore, it has a horrible endgame

[@Artermist]

I have a grudge against World Zero bc they stopped paying attention to Swordburst 2 💔

[@YourEverydayMelon]

You know the dead server part is literally intended... Right? They released Nimbus sea so that players could level up and lowering player count helped with leveling. This was an intended feature.

[@jamisonsullivan]

yea it is not a dead server

[@Fighter_Blue]

Vetex also does not control how roblox puts you into a server.

[@found_jason3648]

@@Fighter_Bluehe limited the max server size…..

[@Fighter_Blue]

@@found_jason3648 Roblox sometimes also puts you in servers with 1 other person.

[@adith2225]

@@found_jason3648 still dosnt control how roblox puts me into some server in the middle of nowhere

[@tearsofIink]

Arcane Odyssey can't lack content, its legit in early access.. Also, vetex is a solo dev, which makes this kinda impressive.

[@SlavMartien]

When you release a game to the public, early access or not, it CAN have lack of content. I also said compared to other roblox rpgs

[@tearsofIink]

@@SlavMartien Well said, respect your opinion

[@JonKlarer]

@@tearsofIinkthis is impossible for a yt comment section

[@hecklic1032]

how does arcane odyssey lack content it has so much to do (i havent watched the full video yet)

[@nathanmax12345]

This and Vetex was pressured into release before he was "satisfied" with the game. I remember him talking about releasing the game once Nimbus sea was done, but because of the hype he had to release early. (its been 1 - 2 years so if im wrong mb)

[@NOTGGboy-dw8gm]

update on Arcane Odyssey there is no more lvl 30 grind u can just go through the main quest but then your are hardcore under lvl

[@pavlo5551]

I swear, someone gonna review ao and complain about fighting a boss while being underleveled and ignoring 10 warnings

[@white9763]

@@pavlo5551 true but a casual player at recommended level fighting calvus is hard as F. i still cant solo calvus at lvl 102'ish bcs skill issue

[@yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3]

​​@@pavlo5551 FR Just have a brain- You have good skill but can't beat something in a non-difficult game? Just level up Does not apply to Maria tho, lol, she is just stupidly broken I feel like the MC is unique because we can kill those whos level is 2 or more times greater than ours, hahah Think about the estimated lvl of Calvus... Maria drops warrior weapons so she might be near the lvl of 2nd awakening

[@reinyfrost3753]

@@yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3 I found Maria hard as well, but after getting used to her moves, I manage to kill her with around 900/1700 hp left. Spend time healing while she does the wave slashes on the ship, and use ranged weapons (preferably flintlocks / muskets) to shoot her before she dashes to the next spot. I found parrying / blocking VERY useful against her. With all that, I killed her around 20 times to get the plunderer and all of her clothing.

[@CellularPengu]

@@pavlo5551 Yep, they literally warn you a bunch what the REQUIRED level is for the next story quest

[@tryhardquesadila]

I like arcane odyssey stat system, as when you have a certain percentage of stats in different things it changes your build, and when you awaken it gives you different abilities based on what stats you chose, such as imbuing magic into your weapons, or gaining a second magic. Also, its hard to hate on the game when its a single dev working on it

[@yuyoshida7359]

The system is cool and rather unique, I still find it weird and annoying that this wasn’t explained in the early part of the game

[@tryhardquesadila]

@yuyoshida7359 i mean yeah i made a savant build cuz I thought it would be conjurer and I didnt know what the abilities were

[@CyberFlare-fn9kn]

@@yuyoshida7359there working on that slowly, with totorial quests, also deep woken is a million times worse with this

[@insanities120]

The unbalanced bosses, I can agree with when it comes to Calvus as the bosses before are nothing like him. The big map stuff, just get a better boat. The NPC AI actually isn't bad at all, there's not much more you can do with it; they serve their purpose. Lack of content is also a bad argument because there's plenty. You go from talking about the many different magics to then saying "oh lack of content", all those magics and the content you can get spanning from boats to weapons to your own characters is a massive amount of content for a pre-full release game. The one poor judgement I really dislike though is the dead servers thing. Nimbus sea is meant to have a smaller server size for development reasons which will be expanded in future. Any other rare instance of landing in a dead Bronze sea server is just Roblox being Roblox. Since I'm making all these counterpoints though, I will say the balancing between classes could be much better.

[@Sonic44885]

And one class doesn't even technically exist (there are some people with it but they slipped under the radar)

[@Deveshkha]

Elius is very unbalanced

[@Sonic44885]

@@Deveshkha it's less he unbalanced and more that he's supposed to be a skill check for the player to make sure they're good enough to take on the other bosses

[@hemandhaid3422]

​@@Deveshkha yeah, he's pretty annoying, moving outside of your field of vision which is pretty annoying plus the healing. But, it's just a skill issue, you just need to look around constantly and dodge/block alot of his moves. Hell some of his moves are pretty to dodge like the spear throw one ,the dash and slam sword one and the rain of arrow.

[@electrifiedbathbomb7383]

I would like to interject my argument by saying: Arcane Odyssey lacks meaningful content. By the time you've reached endgame or heck even mid game, you've ran out of things to do. I know people will start to say: oh do exploration, fishing, treasure chart, diving, etc. All of those things are built so terribly it is boring. The gameplay loop is the same, you go around, jump into a random place, collect a few chests and leave. Every side gameplay mechanic is built kinda lackluster. Fishing is a borefest, treasure charts are horrible and requires an external tool (something that you should not have when playing a game, stop making the argument of looking up the wiki, its stupid), diving points which are unique until you realize the stamina system is built stupid and you die before you reach the surface. But "oh make potions", why do I need to make potions just to do a basic task in the game? Then theres dark seas which is fun for 2 minutes until you realize the countless problems with it. Randomly getting oneshot by lighting, atlantean ships, falling into water and drowning (seriously my gripe with the stamina system is is immense), falling into water and being eaten by a shark, slightly touching lava and vaporizing, islands being terribly far away... there are so many minor inconveniences and hinderances that stops you from enjoying it. "But oh get good or something", brother I want to enjoy the game as it is, I dont want something outside of my control to affect how I play. It is stupid that I just randomly die out of nowhere, it is not a fair mechanic. The only gameplay mechanic that I have enjoyed in Arcane Odyssey is the naval warfare system, up until they added mortars which game NPCs the ability to sink your ship instantly out of nowhere. In the end, I like AO, but there are just so many things that holds it back from reaching its potential. And the fact that people excuse vetex by saying its an Early Access doesnt fix the fact that all of the features he has implemented are flawed and unfun to play with. I very much hope that Vetex will fix many of these issues, but I doubt it would happen honestly.

[@bakamagnet]

Arcane Odyssey has a chockhold on my brain and is really fun i plan to make a beginners guide to it so its easier for newer players to get into

[@ilikeminecraft4313]

The problem is most people leave before the game gets fun

[@yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3]

​@@ilikeminecraft4313they do? unlike blos frus... you don't need to play ao for 100 or 200 hours for it to get fun, lol If max lvl stuff in ao is where the fun begins then it can be easily achieved after like 10h or less (some people are speedrunning this game so much-) Idk how about others but for me the game starts being fun after arriving in redwake, I like the 1st quest, then there are 2 or 3 less-fun spots before completing the current story

[@jinbe_of_the_sea4577]

@@yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3 i havent touched the game in like 6 months or more but it was really fun for me, i was creating builds and characters and finishing the game on the first day, i gotta catch up with the newer updates cuz i wasnt even aware there was a dark sea update💀

[@Casually_Playing]

4:31 yeah, the developers removed all the store, request level requirements, and also all repeatable quests

[@ChillS06]

Have you every tried to explore the dark sea in AO? Yes, it is explorable. You Just need a relly good boat.

[@cassiovieira2939]

it's fun for the 2-3 times but it gets boring after that since it has no content right now

[@Deveshkha]

Not rlly worth it, it's all the same.

[@Briggy.Bateau]

really good boat as in you just need a caravel with 90 stability, that way you just need to go to layer 0 and find stuff to get better items

[@csilly1815]

​​@@Deveshkhamonkey brain deveshkha

[@Deveshkha]

@@csilly1815 oil up buddy and it better be coconut scented

[@overcomingpyro7016]

Pretty good and insightful video. As a long time Arcane Odyssey player (~315 hours on main file) and an experienced Vesteria player I have some stuff to say. The problems you stated with Vesteria were spot on but with Arcane Odyssey I'll have to disagree on some things. Most the problems with the game actually come from gameplay, visual clutter and optimization. The Dark Sea is extremely visually cluttered (although still fun), fights are hard to track due to magics being flashy and the optimization is... bleh... The inventory system is by far the least optimized part of the entire game and you have to keep in mind the game loads every NPC ship on the game offscreen and that's not even the worst optimized part of the game. On the gameplay side of problems -- Vetex for some reason listens to a group of amateur "game balancers" with a google doc on balancing suggestions that are almost always implemented and end up breaking the game one way or another. (For example, Shadow and Acid mages have been the forefront of the meta for literally months at this point despite other classes shifting wildly and jumping around. They also have the tendency to overbuff and overnerf a ton. Berserker is dead in the water right now and Warrior jumped from quite literally the worst class to the 2nd best class behind Mage) Your idea of the stat system in AO is actually a huge misconception -- the main idea of the class stats in AO are actually just to unlock more skills. The main stats come from the gear building which is a big thing about the game that keeps a lot of people (me included) reeled in, since there is no single best armor and thus creates infinite combos for your specific playstyle. The game gives you freedom to play how you like. For a casual playerbase this video is an amazing introductory look into the basic mechanics of the MMORPGs of Roblox, states it all how it is in terms of an experience geared towards someone who doesn't wanna sink in too much time, but for people who are looking into playing a ton this video misses the mark on Arcane Odyssey's review.

[@ME-xc1st]

There is no such thing as "x amount of points in the specific skill point or else ill be unmatched " in Arcane Odyssey, all stats besides vitality increase your base damage stats for all skills so you are more putting stats to unlock classes that have specific stat requirements that have different awakening perks and unlock skills that meet the stat requirement.

[@Crovaketero]

I play ao and I guarantee that only levels increase ur base dmg, not ur class stats point

[@yuyoshida7359]

It’s just annoying how the game doesn’t explain how the stat system in AO works at the start of the game, ‘cuz you only realize how important it is when other people tell u how it really works.

[@Grittx_]

stat points don’t increase your damage

[@ME-xc1st]

@@Crovaketero good to know but it is true that all stats beside vitality increase base damage indirectly since by having any other stat but vitality you are getting increased damage from levels without reducing damage from vitality

[@Fradlod]

@@ME-xc1st again, incorrect your damage increases ONLY from levels, even if you have 270 vitality you will STILL do as much damage as a mage (excluding all the damage buffs like shapes and etc.)

[@iSAC000]

Roblox’s new homepage recently boosted Vesteria to 1.2k active players without an update to the actual game. I honestly think it’s more a problem of how to website gets the games out to Roblox. Especially since many of the most popular games have a ridiculously high player count.

[@hanzo-qo4hf]

Toilet tower defense somehow got 100k player:

[@personguyIII]

one gripe i have with the end where he says "you could be waiting a whole year for a new update" which i have no idea where you got that from since arcane oddessy has had 3 updates in the around a year its been out and is switching to a monthly update thing. but other then that i agree the dificulty curb for the bosses was a bit too fast, i also feel like the dead servers thing is kinda a non isue since you can just switch servers using the menu takes like 60 seconds. other then that i pretty much agree with most the points you make.

[@SlavMartien]

I should have been more clear, when I said a year for an update I meant for story/level updates, since the Nimbus update was the first update that added more of the main story as well as upping the level to 136. I've heard about other content that added ways to get new gear and I'll defiantly check it out

[@iwillslapyou4982]

@@SlavMartien I believe that most updates moving forwards will have a higher level cap since they will be continuing the story a bit. The first few updates were adding essential features so there was no level cap raise.

[@Roufous]

Idk if u know but King Calvus is a KING. He's hard to beat for a reason, he litteraly the ruler of the Bronze Sea, the big map is not an issue , u can upgrade the speed of the boat the server in the Nimbus sea was limited to 5, the AI are goated and a bit to hard to beat and the rest i didn't understand ur spiel. Also, the video is great, good luck for the future

[@narkle9723]

You really need to check out Fantastic Frontier. It's a really damn cool game. I have so many fond memories of exploring the map early game with my friends. The map isn't even that huge but it feels massive due to limited sight and from how detailed some parts are. The art style of the game is also really unique but works super well.

[@fin-8689]

lmao I literally made the same comment before scrolling and seeing this. He definetly needs to check it out.

[@N0_Air]

Yeahhhh that game is a masterpiece

[@cassiovieira2939]

"unbalanced bosses" ok thats just skill issue LOL "lack of content" early access... "bandit beating" level gaps have been removed, theres enough levelling methods now great vid

[@M.I.P.A]

true bro for example the bosses are just like that even lord elius can beat a goddamn level 125 and even our item value on boss item ARE HIGH and come on slow boats?! get a archaic sail and put some enchants on yo boat! we endgame players on ao are hard working and even op as fuck some of us want to do pve some do pvp!

[@somerandomperson4586]

Early access doesn’t mean your game is exempt from content issues. It can exist, and it will exist until something’s done about it. (Which vetex did with the dark sea, so that’s good on him, but the dark sea can use some work to be a little less tedious).

[@Deveshkha]

Have you seen the roadmap? The only content planned is kingdom alignment, spirit weapons, a few side bosses, and more npc ships. I would like to see people keep rambling about it being an early access once the game is full release and is just how it is now.

[@Kupors]

After Full access is literally just gonna be waiting for more abilities lol

[@Delta_Zone]

@@M.I.P.A if you're losing to elius at level 65, let alone double that, then thats unironically a massive skill issue

[@Kensai666_]

World Zero dev here! I totally agree that some of our mobs early on have some clunky animations! Our mobs later in the game have improved animations, but I'll see about refreshing those early game mobs! Great video!

[@unw1cked]

U also were a dev on vesteria too right?

[@Kensai666_]

@@unw1cked Yup! A while ago though.

[@foryoutube1988]

boss kensai! please keep world zero updating especially add more pvp content like guild wars

[@rogeliolozanorosales7701]

Good video dude! i'm sure other people have already said that arcane odyssey got rid of spammable quests, and there's a ton of features you didn't talked about on this video like the treasure maps, variaty on builds thanks to the modifiers system and gems and much more, hopefully you decide to make a vid on arcane someday, love your vids!

[@thyland2483]

Vesteria was one of the best Roblox MMOs I used to play but as said in this video, it fell off pretty hard. Played it back in 2021 and I remembered it being so lively and since I'm into endless grinding, I honestly don't mind the tedious level up system. Had a lot of fun for about a year and that was when things took a rough turn. Really bad management I'd say, too frequent changes, and over time I just felt like I just can't accomplish much as the endgame for most people I'd imagine is to get the best gear possible which is heavily rng dependent.

[@AppleJuice88]

Something i think is worth mentioning about arcane oddisey is the fact that you can customize your spells to make them better fit what you want your playstyle to look, I havent played that many roblox games of the style but I havent seen any other game do this, appreaciate the good and fair reviews

[@jamconnell1sbro660]

Ao compared to all other rpg games is so much better. since it ao has only one dev compared to a full team

[@RaveNitrite]

I've been a long time player of arcane odyssey and i got a few things to say about your review, which is a pretty fair one. about the unbalanced bosses, yeah some of them do have insane difficulty spikes, especially when i see a ton of messages in discord asking for help on the same two bosses that every new player struggle on. they could use some work to make them a little more beginner friendly but i think theyre fair enough when you think about these bosses like souls-like bosses or something close to that; its about the learning process. about that "classic WoW moment", that is not the case anymore. with the recent update, main story quests are no longer level locked as there are other methods to leveling which btw, also serve as your side content. while granted some of them may not be long term fun engaging side content, theres also the dark sea, which is the focus of by far the biggest side content update ever so far in AO. theres also pvp and clans, but personally i prefer grinding the items that players like to use in pvp as my form of engagement in ao (just personal taste for me). About the dead servers point, you showed a nimbus sea playerlist. i should tell you that nimbus server sizes are smaller than bronze sea's (8 max in nimbus and 14 in bronze). and while its true that sometimes you may get put into a deader server sometimes, the servers will fill up eventually. or alternatively you can go back to the main menu and view the server list and pick an optimal one for you, which can be sorted by region and players. servers also tend to be smaller on a newer sea's release to allow players to experience the story first before the pvp chaos unfolds by bigger servers. nimbus sea's player cap was smaller on initial release with 5 players max, only being increased on the easter event update. bronze sea did the same thing when ao initially launched to the public. a little thing about the big map, small boat. there is a forced tutorial quest at the end of the frostmill arc which forces you to buy a sailboat. i personally dont find this problem to be a big deal since you can just start selling all the junk you have to the nearest vendor and/or grind for the galleons required to buy the brig. galleons are pretty easy to farm. there are also ways for you to obtain ship parts to upgrade your ship and make it go faster one more thing about your points made is that not all of the updates were solid. the initial nimbus sea release update is probably regarded as one of the worst updates of ao. for the 5 months of wait from the dark sea update, you really only get about approximately 10-25 minutes worth of additional story content if youre not struggling too hard on the progression (not to mention the infamous unintentional bug, now patched, that wiped a ton of rare weapons from players' inventories). though to be fair on vetex's part, he says that about half of those 5 months were spent fighting bugs on his bugs that keep springing up from roblox's changes. future updates probably wont be as solid as the preceding updates either as vetex, the sole dev of AO, will be focusing on monthly updates, meaning not as much content in each future update but at least more consistent updates (who knows, maybe it might be a good thing or maybe not). overall, i did enjoy your review of arcane odyssey and ill be looking forward to your 2nd review of AO. edit: i watched further into your entire video into the vesteria part. the reason why AO has that stat point investment feature is what determines your play style, from magic, fighting styles, weapons, (and eventually in a future update, spirit weapons) or a mix of the above. in other words, the stat feature determines your class.

[@lunar.sentenza]

One thing I love about Vesteria is how your stats and items change how your skills function. For example, if you have 30 dexterity as a mage, your mana bomb becomes a multi mana bomb hitting multiple times. Which stacks with other effects. My favourite build was the webbed staff. Where you can spam multiple venom puddles and anything within its area of effect just gets pulverized.

[@viktor.7402]

I have 100+ hours on AO and theres no lack of content. You can explore underwater structures, explore Nimbus and bronze sea, fishing, explore the dark sea and much more. I can see on your build and inventory that never have in the dark sea.

[@yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3]

Ye, he prolly just played the story and a few side quests Also as someone with around 500 hours in this game (330+ on main file, I have 8 more files and one that was deleted)... I have to say that sometimes certain things get boring -A few times I stopped playing ao for a short moment, -Sometimes I stop doing treasure charts or diving, but after some time I come back to it and the cycle repeats, -I went to the dark sea many times but rn I quit it, So ye, for some people (especially sweaty pvpers who dont know anything else OR for those with many hours) the game doesn't have that much content But it still is a heaven for pveers (including me, I hate pvp) Ao is very entertaining, ngl

[@randominternetman-kb7vr]

​@@yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3500 hours? Jesus man is that the only game u play

[@yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3]

@@randominternetman-kb7vr nope I also have many hours in cyberpunk 2077, maybe like 300+ And another game but idk how many hours And maybe some other roblox games that I forgot about now I wish roblox had the hour counter without needing to download smth other person made I played world//zero a lot too, might have some hours in vesteria, aand in royale high (I am a female and I played rh for the first time maybe in 2017/2018, that's the explanation for why I could have some hours there)

[@Interxection]

sail the dark sea* theres nothing 2 explore its just generated flat lands fishing is not a fun feature 😂😂😂

[@richardokyne-ampah6738]

You need stat points in AO because they determine your class/build. The armour and weapon stats are there to boost certain attributes of attacks. Having them separate is actually quite easy to understand and I would say its even efficient.

[@ImCrrazy]

only 200 subs?! how this is so high quality im subbing

[@rayv1918]

Arcane odyssey literaly HAS THE ONE OF THE best lore ever since arcan adventures

[@RemisterReal]

Does it compare to Final Fantasy though ? He was comparing him to that

[@Sonic44885]

AO AI is hood when it comes to the bosses and strong NPCs, but yeah the AI on normal enemies is very non-existent

[@DemiCape]

an rpg I have played for a very long time is called lords of normiral or whatever new name it got”previously known as lords of the range cape by the way”. I remember playing it back in 2011 and while it is outdated and kind of dead and I have basically beaten everything, I still go back to it once in a while. I remember liking how damage increased on your blades per level and the secret routes you could find to get to secret bosses was fun to find.

[@herschburdon9448]

Btw the nimbus sea servers barely has people because they’re really low like on release it was like 5 or 4 but now buffed into 8 Going back to bronze has a bunch of servers being the same

[@akaginizana4924]

as a AO enjoyer, i would like to say that it does only have one dev, being vetex, while being a con(as old updates took months) in the time it takes for full updates, it kinda shows that the same amount of love will be put into all the parts of the game, and when i say one dev, i mean in coding, as vetex does outsource models and art i believe, most definitely music

[@yuukas9944]

Deepwoken is a mmorpg too, but a hidden one, if that gem got [FREE] you would see like over 50k people playing daily (or even more), it would be insane cool because new players are cool and change alot how the game feels (may rise in Trolls or may rise in people who like to help each other) in that sort of way. Tested all these games, and for me. My star will be on Deepwoken, Lore is really good if you think about it, concept, Soundtrack, enviroment, all was really made with love (not saying that the other mmorpg are not made like that) Short words: Vesteria. i played for a few moments, i believe the problem is not CONTENT and yes QUALITY. World Zero looks like those generic anime mmorpg i see nowadays, and the fact that you can pay 2 skip progress DESTROYS all the game already. bruh Arcane Odyssey Played a few moments too, well, not my type, the combat is weird, bro seeing stuff jumping and spamming skills is just boring, if the combat was something like Combat Warriors, OH , ok, now we are talking. Jumping + skill + make it basic combat = lame. (you can hate me now) DEVAS OF Creation will release soon, i hope this game don't get too pay2win and the lore be good. I hate just to '' walk around enjoy the enviroment '' but there is not enough monsters to kill or interact. remember. You are playing a game, if the '' Solo '' experience of the game makes you happy and satisfied, OF COURSE with more people it will be even more engaging, doens't matter when you got trolls on the community, (every single game has them lol)

[@tyrumas6046]

Great videos. Take my subscribe! (Glad to be the 458th subscriber)

[@broo23628]

0:45 can anyone please tell me what game that is? i really want to play that again and i always keep searching for it but i finnaly see it on this video but no name of the game can anyone please tell me whats the name of that game? please thank you.

[@DifferentFlam]

might be dawn of aurora

[@broo23628]

@@DifferentFlam sadly no:( its not the one im looking for and its not the one in the video thanks though

[@aaronrojas2877]

In vesteria changing your character doesn’t matter at all since most armor hides it and stat system is kinda cool since it has a perk system that syncs with it

[@lancelarry7878]

Arcane Odyssey stats system is super customizable imo, you are not forced to choose a class but you build one yourself.. the reason for stats points being set similarly among many players is simply the requirements for certain skills (scrolls, weapons, innate techniques…)

[@CreamDo]

As for the issue with dead servers: this was intentional by vetex. In the second sea, since there was a new story, vetex didnt want like 10 players doing the same quest objective as it would ruin the immersion in the game. Other players may also interrupt players who are doing the story, which also breaks the immersion of the story. So as a solution, they made the server player cap lower so that the new story can feel fresh and actually immerse you in it.

[@Apotheosis343]

If Arcane Odyssey has 1,000,000 fans, I'm one of them If Arcane Odyssey has 1,000 fans, I'm one of them If Arcane Odyssey has 10 fans, I'm one of them If Arcane Odyssey has 0 fans, then the entire universe has been erased, myself included. I LOVE ARCANE ODYSSEY

[@buglerplayz7497]

+1 becouse of me

[@hanzo-qo4hf]

Me too I love the open world style and reputation remind me of world of magic

[@averyraresnom2451]

Arcane Odyssey is good, but it’s not the first, I really liked the first game, but the way I get chained and forced to, SLOWLY WALK for 5 minutes to continue the story is a pain, also after a while the grind is misery after updates, moment they added jewel crafting got me suffering after I maxed out 3 slots already…

[@robustjonas]

dont forget the "skip to endgame" gamepass you could buy in World//Zero to immediately skip to endgame while other users spent multiple hours, grinding through the whole game just to meet some noobs a higher level than them just because they got deeper pockets, so unfair

[@capebala5273]

wow, you should keep posting roblox review videos, it's really working out

[@jaredjeiodelapaz7774]

In the clip what was that apocalyptic zombie third person game you've shown?

[@thatrobloxtryhard2458]

In the intro, theres a clip of you shooting zombies in a desert. This gave me deja vu, can you please tell me what that game is called since I used to play it years ago and forgot the name!!!

[@bigdued7039]

about the unbalanced bosses part for AO, they're meant to be more powerful than you for the reccomended level, the game encourages you to fully get new gear before fighting the boss instead of just relying on levels for power

[@thiefbehindthemask206]

About Arcane Odyssey's "dead servers" that is just in the Nimbus Sea. Not sure if Vetex has revoked it yet or not but the player server counts are all 4 in the Nimbus Sea so everyone can get into a good spot there without being camped and instantly killed on initial arrival to the Sea. A concern that was thought about in some interviews and shit and was said in the discord I'm pretty sure.

[@SilverZBR]

Love the video, and the eplanations for your feelings on the games! I would like to throw my two cents in for the three games. In AO: On the unbalanced bosses, I would like to point out that, yes, Calvus is a downright pain. However, in my experience, I feel more annoyed at Elius' boss fight due to the rain. That rain, even with my pc being good (and lowering roblox graphics settings), always leaves me lagging so much. It no longer feels like a challenge of a boss, and more like a slog. At least with Calvus, I know it is my skill that is being put to the test (and needing a friend to help). With the dead servers, I more prefer it for my higher level, since there is usually less lag in the Bronze sea. When in the Nimbus sea, I feel the lower player count also takes into account the smaller sea (I am not being accurate, but the Nimbus sea is literally less than half the size of the Bronze sea). World Zero: I have played it for a while (about half a year before dropping it due to feeling drained), but I feel it is worse than Vesteria. This feeling mostly comes from the fact that when I played it, the objectives were not so easy to get through, especially after world 1, since, when I played it, there was no pathfinding. If this has changed, I can understand the difference in opinion. Vesteria: I totally agree on the game being drastically different. I have not played in the Beta, but just when it publicly released I played it. The starter area is so hard to navigate, since it changes every month (exaggerating, yes, but that is how I feel). I would say the late game is fun, but only if you play with friends. Many funny moments came out when we were challenging late-game bosses, and all of us would die instantly (revived soon after). One other thing, I am more angered by the rng element in the game, especially due to a recent event (Lunar New Year), where it was luck to get any items from the event. And, as far as I am aware, there was no concrete way to get some items aside from the equivalent of a gacha system. All I ever got from the tickets were the coins (which I used to boost my luck on subsequent tickets), and I opened somewhere close to 60 tickets.

[@fitmotheyap]

Lunar New Year... I am afraid that event was somewhat good, the event before was even worse and the reason I quit, I suggest you leave it while you can because berezaa is running the game into the ground

[@lujodrimovkvisin7843]

Dead servers are not at all an issue You can just go to the server list and find a server you like Also, bandit-beating quests were removed in the last update, since to level up people can just do diving spots, cargo runs, side quests etc. And yes, there is little content, hence the "Early access", but you can still do a ton of stuff, bounty-hunting, treasure charts, titles, Dark sea, the list goes on

[@babyfaceangel3271]

I remember playing Vesteria when it was free on weekends. The starting cutscene was amazing and immediately got me invested. The mushroom forest was also really fun to explore and beating the occasional elites with around 10 people was very satisfying. Unfortunately, after beta, my data was wiped. I expected to see the starting cutscene again but I was disappointed because it got removed. The mushroom forest was still the same but with a lot less players making it feel empty and hollow. The game was still very good and it was fun exploring the massive world but I was really mad when the best armour for my class required me to beat many people in the colosseum. Normally this would be fine but some classes are so op that they can literally one shot and have near infinite healing capabilities. I quit the game and came back a few years later and started a new play through. I had mixed feelings about the new spawn but they were mostly negative. Overall, there are many things that I wish they would fix and balance but after years of waiting, there was still no news.

[@personguyIII]

i remember playing vestaria beta one day when it got out of beta my progress was wiped and i never played again

[@elgatosovieticocomunista3710]

Relating to servers, the example given is a ninbus server which in release had a max capacity of 4/5 people then easter update increased it to around 8, bronze sea servers can have up to 14/15 players Maybe "actually 🤓☝️" moment but something that had to point out, if servers still dead or you look for one in the menu or the game takes u there according to the available servers or region wise

[@SlavMartien]

Not really a max player issue, if you look towards the beginning of the ao section where im leveling a bit, you can see theres only a few people in the server. Fair point that you can switch servers easily but it should be on the dev to make it more apparent to players or to find a way to direct players to more populated servers.

[@thomasisready]

@@SlavMartien Trust me, at the beginning of the game being in peace isn't that bad... after you start getting some fame (around 30k but even less sometimes) you're gonna start getting jumped by criminal and assassin players that want to raise their negative fame (bounty). Fame is cosmetic for players past the "Hero" and "Villain" titles, but if you have a clan the more fame the clan has the bigger its bank capacity is and the more galleons you can keep in it without risking to lose them if you die. Thankfully most "Evil" players will leave low fame and low levels alone.

[@Creatortionist]

Just explaining some stuff with the games Vesteria and World 0. Vesteria used to be a very big/active game with an average of 1.5k+ people on it at a time. I used to play it a lot, and it was my favourite game on roblox for a whole year and almost the only thing I did play. But then, the devs started to promise updates and things that didn't ever happen which got people a little mad. Then the lack of updates made player counts drop. At the same time, the larger KZbinrs such as some of the Revins (Major clan in the game) were quitting and soon after, one of the Devs was kicked out of the dev team. This dev (We'll call him nice dev cos I don't want to spread names incase I get anything wrong) who was kicked out streamed the game weekly and brought an extra 100 or so people on just for his stream and he was popular. He then suggested something to berreza about another dev being kicked out due to lack of activity (something like that idk the full thing since I don't have access to their DM's), but then berreza seemed to not like the idea and kicked our nice dev out. This nice dev was also friends with possibly the biggest Vesteria KZbinr at the time, and so he also left. Almost a day later after our nice dev was kicked out, Berreza made a post in the Discord server trying to spite our nice dev saying "idk why we removed variants" (A thing many people wanted to add back to the game). The only problem was, variants were agreed upon to be removed, and the screenshot of the variants folder's removal, was of our nice dev's name removing it. So essentially, he was just trying to start beef for no reason which put many people including me off the game entirely. Luckily, our nice dev was actually forming connections with devs at World 0, and so the moment he was kicked out of the Vesteria team, he joined the World 0 team. Now I don't play World 0, but I've seen he's still an active dev their which is nice. This information is everything I've seen from my perspective of things, I did not research anything for this, this is a general view from the community

[@fitmotheyap]

Yeah I miss "nice dev", berezaa is single handedly holding the game back because he only wants certain things in the game

[@Creatortionist]

@@fitmotheyap Agreed

[@Krewbracks]

Don’t worry, we are building foundation from scratch. Bereza doesn’t really have a say in the development anymore, UNLESS it’s something huge. Vesteria is making its comeback this year

[@Creatortionist]

@@Krewbracks No way, I was literally seeing if you were back to making content on Vesteria Yesterday!

[@khan-zw1tt]

you should cover deepwoken, btw you were in nimbus sea and the max player cap in nimbus is extremely low for maintenance testing

[@dragonmaster3296]

Im a vesterian player and i still play the game. Back when i first played it, the start was actually pretty fun. Back then, there were no p2w so u had to lvl 10 for a class. It was very fun to figure out what to do and how to play. But now i see how boring the start is. It barely has any hints and guides. When i made a second and third slot, they changed mushtown (the starting area) at least 4 times, and it was very confusing. Like where was everything? Although now the early game has improved a bit (slightly due to content for mushtown), its still bored. However during mid game, the questing and dungeons part of the game was very fun. The game does not have many repeat quests, but has many one time quests and questlines. It is not required to do quests to progress, which was which i took soo long to max lvl. Most of the good quests are lvl 20-30, which requires u to explore the world. Scrolling system is basically gambling, which turns the endgame into a grindfest, and now is actually gambling because they added scrolls to the etyhr store (premium store). The bosses are fun to kill. But the player base (or whats left of it) is somewhat toxic (idk but like maybe the sweaty ones). The classes and subclasses, if u ever get to them, are very fun to play. The problem with vesteria in its current state, is that people get too bored at the start. They dont know thats theres more to this game then just killing a couple shrooms. Also lack of content for endgame. And p2w. The main reason for why this game is soo dead is thanks to its owner (bereza), who back then refused to listen to the community, leading to its death. Now however, things have changed, though i don't think there are many to listen to anyways. I still miss those old times of innocently play this game.

[@fitmotheyap]

Ngl you pretty much said everything the community is thinking, tho I will say the fun ended at around dunes or pit, ever since then berezaa has simply not been doing good, even worse now as you said due to more endgame micro transactions, tho I wanna add that unobtainable items being meta is even worse I say this because I suddenly became a plat richer since all my vamp vests are unobtainable

[@ITT59Gamer]

4:06 its in early access they released a new update taht made the game a bit longer dark sea and continued the story a bit but its in early access its not gonna be super long and 4:17 its like that cus the nimbus sea is much smaller so player count is smaller then its not gonna be super many players cus if it was its gonna be chaos 4:29 nope lvl requierments is removed exept the one that goes to nimbus sea so u dont need to lvl up but u should and the game removed repeatable quests btw

[@ibuprofensaint]

hey man good video just wanted to let you know

[@xdflame7712]

as a guy who's played both AO and W//Z I have a few things to say: what you said about arcane odyssey, I partially agree with. the bosses are definitely hard for new players, but I wouldn't necessarily say "unbalanced". once you learn their patterns you can defeat them. not to mention dodging and parrying. travel time depends on your effort. you can absolutely get a very fast boat if you farm a bit. lack of content. not sure to say to that. personally I had plenty to do, and I was a massive PvE player (over 500 hours on one file). and the "classic wow moment" doesn't apply anymore because level requirements were removed for the story. lastly for AO: "bad AI". yeah I think this one is just straight false. the AI is the best I've seen in a roblox game. moving on to W//Z: I definitely agree with your points. the animations are very clunky, it's just dungeon farming for 90% of the time, and the combat has no depth. combat in W//Z is just button mashing and waiting for cooldowns. there isn't a way to block or parry and dashing is very.... meh. W//Z also massively ramps up in difficult in the end game. I'm in world 10 and can barely solo. although granted, the same can be said for AO. overall I think both are good games in their own right, but I think W//Z could use a lot more work than AO. my only real complaints about AO is how buggy it is, performance, and lack of QoL features. my main gripes for W//Z are bland combat, pay to win, and infinite grind. I won't comment on vesteria since I've barely played it

[@Sheesh7328]

Oh hey what’s up flame? Maybe you don’t know me cuz I’m only on discussions

[@bingobling]

I just enjoy coming back every now and then to vesteria for a sense of nostalgia for when i played it in beta and then grind it for a couple days to catch up

[@danielcarrasco1247]

pls can someone tell me what is the of th game in the second 47 , i remenber playing it a long time ago but i forgot the name

[@untraman2791]

so sad u didn't make a vid on Fantastic Frontier, I guess I'm just old. Honestly my personal favorite open world RPG out of all the ones mentioned here.

[@ooooriley3128]

Btw arcane odyssey stat points have nothing to due with your damage output or anything like it. It’s just to obtain your build like conjurer or mage

[@L_rdRio]

W video, earned a sub. Though... arcane odyssey just straight up removed the level locks (except for the one for the awakening) and they got rid of repeatable quests

[@Zembie1]

I wish you mentioned Voxlblade (new one) because it’s one of my favorite Roblox games of all time and it’s an RPG game. It has an AMAZING soundtrack

[@Polarived]

Vesteria is amazing and needs more players. The start is a bit boring but once your lvl 20 and can do the spider queen dungeon things start to become more fun. The only reason why I don't play it much anymore is because I had a really op item which exploded when I put the final scroll on it. RIP the green tier :(

[@bido8917]

What you said about why it's weird having stats when there are armors and such is something I 100% agree with but Arcane odyssey should be let off the hook on this one as the stats are more so for the class system rather than actual bonuses and because of that you also don't have the struggle of distributing the stats because it's based off your class.

[@-ZM_Gaming-]

For Unbalanced Bosses, it can be dependent on your skill, Lord Elius teaches you to take advantage of the time using their skills/abilities, wait before attacking since the boss can make you miss since they can dash. Learn how to parry (for god's sake PARRY), etc. So you can handle the future bosses. For the big map, its alright, just get a better boat/upgrade your ship to use better sail material. NPCs are there either for the stores or the lore, otherwise they might be future side quests. There's alot of content to be seen here, even on your ship you have a crew, specialized crew members, and quartermasters. There are Treasure Maps, Underwater Structures for Loot, Sinking Pirate/Assassin/Navy ships for chests (Difficulty may vary). Main Quests, Side Quests, Items for Potion Brewing... you get the point. There is atleast something/someone you can interact with in almost every island in the game. Nimbus Sea Servers are designed to be small so players can have an easier time leveling up without the intervention of other players (you can ask someone for help via messages in one of the UI). Vetex has made it so that there isnt a level requirement to do a quest, only recommended (there is a ! in the Quest tab if there is a recommended level to progress)

[@jerryjia4324]

Arcane Odyssey has a stat point system because of the awakening system in place in the game. Some weapons are strength + weapon stat based while other rare magic scrolls need higher magic stats. There is a point to the system unlike other bandit beaters.

[@mikael6008]

it is not a bandit beating game when theres multiple ways you can level up like doing cargo runs, sinking ships, treasure charts, cooking and more.

[@ackraux1010]

Nice video, just two things I want to say for Arcane Odyssey: -Newest update removed the level cap for the story line, except for the first awakening. But you should be very close or more than level 117 at that point -Bro I swear to god Calvus is really easy if you just parry his VERY telegraphed attacks 😭😭😭

[@ztr_swordsman2459]

Arcane Odyssey is one of the only games I play on Roblox now. There are a couple points I would like to make, that contradict your cons. Unbalanced Bosses: You really are not supposed to just jump into bosses and expect to win. There are a ton of different ways to kill bosses. You can parry their attacks, brew ironskin/healing potions for protection, make throwing potions to debuff the boss, make food for even more buffs, etc. In my opinion, the most unfair part of the bosses is just hitting them, but that can be remedied by getting more attack size. Big Map, Slow Boat: This one really depends on the boat you use. It's not that hard to buff your boat to be faster. Also, half of the fun can be what you find between the journey. Pirates, whales, underwater ruins, etc. The seas are not empty. NPC AI = Bad: This is variable. The NPC's AI is random. In general, they will run straight for you and attack you. But when it comes to higher level AI, it gets better. They will use some of their dash attacks to close the distance if they're melee/weapons. They have access to all, and I mean ALL the different types of stuff the player has. And they utilize it too. Lack of Content: This opinion is the reason I made this comment. If you are looking in terms of straight story content, then you are gonna be missing out. The story does not take long, especially after they removed all but one level lock. Most of the content is in the exploration aspect. You can go to the dark sea, dig up treasure, find underwater ruins, etc. You can do bounty hunting/assassinations, fight pirates/the grand navy, and cargo runs. There is a ton of different loot, and of course there is cooking, brewing, and jewelcrafting. There is no shortage of things to do. The best part is replayability. There are three main classes you can be, which is great. You can do playthroughs of each class, which makes your playtime even longer. Dead Servers: I kind of agree with you on this one. When me and my friends are playing, we rarely encounter other people, even on a mostly full server. And then, most people ignore us anyway.

[@syncopite8316]

U should explore Fantastic Frontier if you havent played before. Would love to see a video on it

[@RanactOficial]

3:50 Nah, its really hard if you play just like this: attack, attack, attack You shoukd play not by just impulse, but also strategy. The boats arent slow, you that didnt customized it to be fast. Also, W video.

[@TheLaw2063]

I First started playing ROBLOX because of Dinosaur Simulator, i liked dinosaurs a lot and still do. Anyways it was 2014 and DS was the only thing i played until i started watching anime and saw Sword Art Online... young me loved it, and found an parody game called Sword Burst Online, i've been playing since then, i played SB1, SB2 and i'm playing SB3 now, but its kinda sad SB3 is VERY simple, and a lot of things from the previous games were scraped, honestly the game is... pretty simple... get boss drops upgrade 10 times only to throw it away later for another drop and upgrade it... it's a mindless mob beater, but i still like it.

[@francomacuha4138]

the fact that you defeated the 2 quartermaster in arcane surprised me...i always get jumped when i try to finally progress the game how do i mean by jumped you might asked? the lower level pirates somehow manages to get in the way and distract me enough so the quartermaster defeats me or i just lag immediately and die and then rage quit

[@philsinnett9213]

My least favourite part of vesteria is the end game as to get the best gear you need to grind scrolls and then you need to get lucky for them to actually work.

[@amara7734]

Good vid. For me arcane odyssey is like the only reason i still have roblox downloaded on my laptop lol, i wish he had more money to hire more devs cause scripting, debugging and doing most of the building alone has to be hell.

[@pphc_]

I played Vesteria in the past, it was a lot of fun to spend hours grinding with friends, I have good memories.

[@pythonstinger]

the head serve for arcane was because u were in the nimbus sea, at the time u made this the server max player count was like 5

[@andygogo50]

Bro amazing video I watched the whole thing. I honestly agree with all of your opinions though they’ve improved a lot of the flaws in arcane odyssey such as level gaps and also the dead servers were because the servers were set to like 5 players for a bit so people wouldn’t get ganked in the new update. Now with vesteria I’m sad to say that I agree with your opinion the games long gone unless a miracle happens. Anyways great video you’ve earned a sub! Edit: Vesteria Isn’t long gone but it’s looking to go that way because many players have lost hope. However, I don’t think that the game doesn’t have a chance at all because the devs are working hard to put out a new dungeon right now which is much different then other devs when they see their game decline in playerbase.

[@SlavMartien]

The saddest part is I was most excited to see where vesteria ended up, I expected at least a few thousand players and consistant updates and the such, but it felt like an empty husk of its formal self

[@TK-zl8fu]

@@SlavMartien I have to ask, you did awaken, from what I saw (AO), how come you thought the stat system was somewhat out of place? It gives a buff depending on which stat build you decide to go through, some of them better, some are Warden, which isn't even in the game yet (Warden is a full vitality class). I'm not arguing, just honestly interested, it's the first time I've seen one of your videos, and I agreed with many of your points, not to mention how fair you were with your arguments, so I'm genuinely interested in what you'd have to say.

[@SlavMartien]

@@TK-zl8fu I generally dont agree with stat point systems in games, it adds a sense of min maxing that isnt needed. For example for the best build i need x amount of points in the specific skill point or else ill be unmatched in end gane content. When i first played AO a year ago i accidentally put my points in the wrong place which lead to me not being able to fully utilize my build. I think with the way stats work with gear in ao it would honestly be way better to replace the stat point system. It also would allow players to change their builds whenever they want, which is something im also for.

[@TK-zl8fu]

@@SlavMartien I mean, let's be fair here, you can reset your stats, although you only get 1 free reset per slot. I do agree that most games with stat point systems had me feeling like I had to minmax, but I don't really feel that with AO, as the stats given through the points themselves are negligible, and it's mostly based on the items you have on, although some builds are stupidly op, that's true. Imo, if they found a way to replace the stat point system in a way that wouldn't ruin pre-existing slots, and would still allow for the variety it currently allows for, it could work better, but I personally can't see a feasible way to do that at the moment, they'd practically have to rebuild the game from zero (vetex already tried messing with the leveling system, and it resulted in a bug where weapons were getting removed if you unequipped them/had them in your inventory (it's also a recent bug, as it happened for around the first hour or so of the Nimbus sea coming out.) All of that put aside, I do generally agree that there are many places where AO could be improved, the point system being one of them, although from my personal experience, aside from the really broken builds, the game is generally balanced with its pvp, as I've soloed through it all and had zero issues. Thank you for the discourse, it was a pleasure to hear the other side of the argument. I apologize if this is all a huge essay, but I can't really picture a feasible way to cut down on the text, and I'm currently sitting with a huge fever, so I'd hope you understand.

[@DaveTheDummy120]

I agree, tbh I'll also give this guy a sub :P

[@jamisonsullivan]

In the nimbus sea of arcane odyssey it is not a dead server it made it like that so people could do the story without being spawn killed over and over.

[@Flohws]

I actually used to love vesteria, but ever since i lost perfect weapons because of the scroll system i just quit 😂 i tried to get it all back a while after, but since they changed so much and almost none of the mechanics you knew could be applied, i quit, fr this time 😂😅

[@Flohws]

The scroll system im talkng about is basically when you apply a scroll, it does just that, it applies it, but their stats are mediocre compared to cursed scrolls which are needed for basically everything, trading, boss raids etc. but here's the catch, once you use these scrolls they have a 30-80% chance of destroying the weapon, and so if you had perfect substats on a weapon, you'd have to risk it for it to be viable, and as you can see, i lost.

[@EternalSoup]

We had the exact same reason for why we quit and both of us came back to it just to realize a shit ton changed and we couldnt be bothered to anymore

[@vincentchen5748]

Vesteria scrolled system is horrifically flawed. Success only cross from luck or because you are rich and nothing more. The power gap in this game has become so bad it’s not even funny

[@Durza_01]

Basically to answer most of the negatives in ao 1: Unbalanced bosses - It is true that the final boss in the bronze sea is severely overpowered compared to the player which is why you can always kinda just leave the island to go level up. Seeming how they removed the level requirements for progression (like the reach level 40, 70 something, and 93) more people are underleveled for these boss fights 2: Big map slow boat -You can actually get items to help increase you boat speed. And the base boat doesn’t take that long to get to one end of the bronze sea to the other (around 5-7 minutes which is kinda the point) 3: NPC AI = Bad -Roblox is Roblox 🤷 and the npc ai us pretty good compared to a lot of other popular games (blox fruits) 4: lack of content: - If I remember right the game is still in early access so there isn’t really much content and since there is basically one developer working on it the game takes a while to release 5: dead servers - again early access and on updates the player count is 5-10x the average count and most players prefer the bronze sea since they aren’t fully levelled or just want to grind there 6: Classic WoW moment -they removed it 🙏 or atleast I think they did

[@Zeno3078]

That’s not a dead server in the nimbus sea they did that on purpose to prevent spawn killers

[@amusician644]

When It comes to stat points AO stat points are pretty reasonable. Whatever stats you invest in means a different play style. Vetex cant just let everybody be able to use every weapon, magic. and fighting styles otherwise that would cause mass chaos when stuff like ancient magic, and legendary weapons get released especially since pvp is always turned on. Yes savant can use everything but for savants everything will be heavily nerfed and you'll be unable to use advanced weapon skills or spells.

[@diamond5423]

the nimbus sea servers as of right now can only hold 5 players due to nimbus sea being in its very very early stages

[@Interxection]

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[@AverageLoserMan]

AO's point allocation system is for classes and not actual stats such as strength or agility. That is why it exists alongside stat gears, it is for the class a player will fall under. For example 150 weapons and 122 magic would've led you to be a Conjurer, whereas max magic would've led to you being a mage, all of which directly correlate to your ascensions and extra attack slots.

[@ItzBunnnyy]

Only 150 subs with this video quality is crazy

[@nikitafeoktistov8029]

I loved arcane odyssey. There's a lot of content IMO, and enough options that the game doesn't feel very linear. The ships are slowish, but there's so many things in the ocean that it isn't ever boring. Instead, it makes traversing the ocean meaningful. I did hate that there were some missions that were "Hey, go gain 10 levels" but even then, there's so many random little missions that it isn't too bad. If you don't want to do missions, everything in the game gives XP. Explore and open chests, combat, spam crafting, etc. It is by no means a bandit beater either, since with the exception of some missions / navy attacks, you're usually fighting one enemy at a time and the combat is fun. My only complaint with the game was that some bosses were very difficult for no reason, and you couldn't progress until you beat them. The combat is also a bit too chaotic in my opinion, but you have so many options and customization options for your fighting that it's worth it.

[@miguelpaulo3125]

Arcane odyssey is not a bandit beater there are a lot of things to do that are not fighting, almost all of the quests arent fighting quests, and u just chose to kill bandits but the game isnt a bandit beater. The stat sistem in Arcane odyssey is to unlock skills, the stats do not give u buffs it only unlock skills

[@autismohecc744]

You should try out fantastic frontier, a unique experience to be sure

[@randomspacefan]

World // Zero is my childhood game it’s definitely not the best but it’s pretty good for roblox in my opinion

[@theanimator6890]

Weird how you didn't discuss the class system in world zero in my opinion it's a very big part of the game

[@pizzaroneee]

I don't really like playing MMORPG or maybe I haven't found one but I really enjoyed Arcane Odyssey! when I discovered it I was stuck in being bored in Roblox open world games that is always fun at the start and then the gameplay will be just boring grinding and vice verse. This game actually makes grinding and leveling up really fun! I played on this for HOURS and I really like the story and stuff! it is also fun exploring new islands and finding stuff! it is actually the first time I enjoyed that time of gameplay HSAHSAH so this game will have a special space in my heart

[@fynnnundel89]

Let me fix some things u said about arcane odyssey, 1. Slow boats can be upgraded to be MUCH faster, the ship he used was only a tier 3 boat and the max rn is 5, im betting it had 0 speed upgrades too. 2. Npc ai isnt that bad if you know how to deal with it, every enemy is unique and has different styles. 3. There is TONS of content, but of course if you only do the story it might only take around 15 hours for noobs to complete, and the dead servers are because vetex dosent want the servers in the nimbus sea to flood

[@SlavMartien]

Watch my newest video, I talk more in depth on all of the things in this video

[@sergiocamejo9450]

Great commentary. Just a comment on the "dead server" issue with arcane Odyssey, the nimbus sea is player-capped right now thats why there are only 3 other players in your server. also there is a lot of content in arcane odessy that you can get into if you really want to like the dark sea, fishing, sea charts, treasure maps, build specs and more just saying.

[@walmartiancheese4922]

half of those are mindless grinding

[@its.cosmic]

Bro u hella underrated fr