Saddle Hunting 102 - Tips and Tricks - A Better Tether Connection

[@quaileggsvermont]

Ha symple!! Thanks I have the same problem when I am tethered to the tree in my tree stand! Always MESSING WITH THE THING!! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@stick__shooter]

Great tip! I've just been running through the loop No real issues with it, but I like the more secure connection you show.

[@markhicks1544]

Fantastic tip! Thank you for sharing.

[@nikolasshay3294]

Great tip. I still use the old way of attaching the tether but I use a castration band on the loop side and then I slide the band down the loop to tighten it so that it doesn't open up and move. I've been. Using this method for 5 plus years so I'm going to be stubborn and keep doing it haha. But I'll keep your method in mind if and when I ever feel like I need a change

[@trxe420]

Girth hitch has to be the most important knot for a saddle hunter lol, more than a prussic. I love this idea and not sure why I never thought of doing it, I always just made sure my loop was on the right side so tension would stay on it when moving left, this is much better thanks!

[@markhumphrey855]

Love this idea, I am getting into saddle hunting and have watched a bunch of your videos. Bought my first saddle yesterday and plan on buying everything else soon. Looks like a great hitch. Thanks

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Thanks man!!!

[@walter992]

Very good info. I will give it a try and a couple weeks when our season opens. Thanks

[@davidthompson1529]

Excellent vid. Thanks for tip.

[@nsant]

My wife said I'm lacking in the girth hitch department

[@tenneytravis87]

Great idea. I use a nite ize gear tie and just wrap it up tight to the eye of my tether. Nite ize are a go to for almost anything with me lol.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

No shame in using a Nite Ize. I just like to streamline as much as possible. One less thing for me to have to mess with or ... knowing me ... drop and lose.

[@kennethrogers1129]

I like the saddle hunter hitch,,, check out jrb tree climbing, can be remote release and rappel with it , or the jrb hitch

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Yep those work as well.

[@gcnphilly]

The girth hitch is the only way I've attached my tether to the tree. I think you and Joe Eberhart are the only people I've seen advocate for the use of the girth hitch. Not sure why others don't recommend it. Definitely an added level of safety.

[@woodyks7490]

I run it the same way and it’s definitely the way to go , not sure what I’m going to do when I start one sticking, I might just bring an extra tether besides the 40’ rappel rope .

[@vincentc2466]

thanks so much i was about to ask you about this. i noticed the tether only stayed put under tension which i thought was a real problem. i ended up ordering a cruzr xc, 8mm resc tech ropes, and trophyline edp platform. thanks for the help

[@rlofgren6787]

That's my method as well. Started last year and I feel more secure.

[@jasonphillips1342]

Just run it through the loop the same way twice it holds real good and easy to undo when finished

[@leonlawrence6318]

Been doing this for years. Very simple, taunt and less finagling to release

[@lonniechartrand]

Lone Wolf had a similar idea with their safety strap whereas you passed the tag end of the line around the end loop TWICE, and then attached to your prussik.

[@allannesss7782]

This is the John Eberhart way. I remember watching this in one of his very first videos years ago .

[@kevinshelton3438]

Thank you!

[@B_r_u_c_e]

Thank you.

[@redball4093]

Good practical advice

[@justinkomorowski5853]

Good video - thanks for the tip

[@stevenl4494]

Try it. Put a byte through the eye, then attach a carbineer around the whole eye, and through the byte. Cinch tight, doesn't move. Much easier.

[@timothyslover1541]

Rock climbing has always cautioned about rope touching ropes or “soft on soft” because if they are moving under tension they can saw each other. Climbers avoid the girth hitch and usually add a carabiner to achieve soft on hard. As a saddle hunter and climber I’ve used the girth hitch as long as it is static. It’s simple and uses less gear. It’s just important to know when not to use.

[@disposable_hero2748]

So can you use the option he’s showing in the video or no? I’m confused lol

[@2wheeladdict12]

I use a shackle for the girth hitch. I think that's what you mean by hard on soft

[@scr6272]

@@disposable_hero2748 Timothy is saying not to use due to the girth hitch's 2 loops (that create a larks head) that can rub together under dynamic load

[@asajones1425]

Awesome tip!!!

[@kellyt1853]

I am a brand new saddle hunter and the loosening of the tether when tension is not being applied was my biggest fear when practicing. This alleviates so much of that fear!! Can't wait to try this out. Also, you are the only person I have seen so far that still has the plastic sleeve on the rope. I was wondering if it's better to keep this on or does it not matter? I figure it provide some extra protection from rubbing on the tree, but my plastic sleeves have started to slip out of place. Thanks!!

[@NewDayOutdoors]

The plastic protects the stitching of the sewn eye and is very important to keep in place.

[@CalvinCrispo]

Could a rope man ascender on a tether be just as effective as this knot? I’m contemplating running an ascender on both my lineman rope and tether? Bad idea? Willing to play extra money for safety and comfort as this is my first saddle. Thanks for a great video!

[@MissouriValleyArms]

This is a good idea if you're not one sticking with a long rope and have to move around a limb on the way up. What about a slip knot?

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Yeah this will not work with one sticking where you are typically using a quick link and some sort of locker, like an Ohm. This is really geared to the "traditional" stick and saddle setup that the bulk of new saddle hunters gravitate towards.

[@MissouriValleyArms]

@@NewDayOutdoors Good job on your videos by the way. I've learned so much by watching folks who know what they're doing.

[@stickbowsniper]

This is more than just a tip or an "alternate method"....this illustrates how a rope tether is supposed to be used. In other words, just feeding the tag end through the fixed loop as shown in the first example is an incorrect way to tether. Rope tethers with a sewn/fixed loop are designed to be used as illustrated in this video.

[@christopherd7922]

Is this method practical going up a tree in your climber? I’m trying to keep the open end from sliding down in your video. I see people using a rubber stopper that goes through your line and snugs the loop at the tree. I was thinking of adding an additional prusik not above mine that I use to adjust my length and just use the second one to secure the loop. Merry Christmas

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Yes. It would definitely help with your tether even with a climber. Way safer this way.

[@davidmartin6927]

Would this trick work with a quick link?

[@NewDayOutdoors]

No. With a quick link you need to use something like a Flexi Ohm Tether Locker made by Innovating The Outdoors ... easy to find on a quick Google search. I also have one-stick videos on my channel that show me using one with my quick link and rappel rope setup.

[@backstraps4me]

What size rope are you using and what mechanical ascender you have? I’m looking for something a little smaller and more compact

[@NewDayOutdoors]

I have two rope setups right now. But all of my ropes are 8mm. My recent set are from Latitude and right now have their standard prusik setups. My ropes from last year that I still have are from Tethrd. On that set I use a simple prusik on the linesman and a figure 8 of paranoid as a tender. But on my tether I use a Kong Duck. Like I said all my ropes are 8mm. It packs smaller than 10 and 11mm ropes. But you cannot use a Ropeman 1 with 8mm. You have to choose between Ropeman 2 (eats rope badly), Kong Duck, or CT Roll n Lock. I still am not sure on my ther which I like better, a mechanical or prusik. I am still working through it by hunting both styles.

[@backstraps4me]

@@NewDayOutdoors Thanks. I have 11mm on both my setups now but may have to go with 8mm

[@doncook3584]

Better idea check out JRB tree climbing his saddle hunters hitch. Guy is annoyingly (is that a word) meticulous when presenting but best system by a mile

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Oh I am familiar with him and his system. To each their own.

[@glennflake5732]

The other downside is when you get to a limb to go around.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

I personally just put the rope through the loop in the instance when I am going over a limb. I only girth it when I am at hunting height were I plan on hanging for a long period of time to hunt. I agree to do this when going over a limb would be a pain in the back side.

[@JoshTheFlyGuy]

wonder how you'd be able to do this with a 40' repel rope lol

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Different animal and not recommended if you want to be able to recover your rope once you are on the ground.

[@JoshTheFlyGuy]

@@NewDayOutdoors I just got into one sticking and have been using a nite ize gear tie to hold it in place. but trying to know if there's a more solid way to hold that tether in.

[@madhuntsadventures]

There are definitely better ways to attach for one sticking. As New Day Outdoors stated this method is best for the stick and saddle climbers.

[@franklinkungfu]

If you learn to you're a running JRB hitch you can get a solid anchor that can be retrieved from the ground.

[@kennethrogers1129]

You need a heavier rope…. Jeez, that is like a thread, has no weight

[@NewDayOutdoors]

These are climbing rated ropes that are made for this purpose.