Safe Circuit Board Power-Up: Troubleshoot like a Pro

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@CarlThom
@CarlThom Жыл бұрын
Two additional items to consider: 1. Use 0R to disconnect the load from your regulator outputs when first powering up. This will protect your circuit if there is an issue you didn't pick up. You can then also test to ensure the output voltage in a no-load condition 2. With the abovementioned 0R removed, you can temporarily add load resistors to confirm your power supply current capability 3. Add the 0R links back. Any errors now will be on the load side, not the power supply side.
@JeffreyBoye
@JeffreyBoye Жыл бұрын
Recommend adding the following steps: Measuring resistance of all rails with both polarities of multimeter (positive biased lead on rail to negative biased lead on ground and vice versa). PN junctions present in sneak paths, such as protection diodes in CMOS devices, may yield different leakage currents depending on bias polarity of the resistance measurement. Record these measurements and trend across serial numbers. Out of family results may indicate a defect. If using sensitive low voltage devices, such as modern FPGAs operating at ~1V core, check the open circuit test voltage of your multimeter in resistance mode with another meter in voltage mode for damaging test voltage levels. For example, many Fluke meters have open circuit test voltages upwards of 5V. This can damage a 1V rated device if applied directly to the core rail. For this reason, I like to use an Amprobe 37XR-A with an open circuit test voltage clamped to around 250 mV. Prior to applying power to the board, independently verify the supply is configured properly by measuring the open circuit voltage of the supply with a volt meter, and then verifying the over current trip threshold by shorting the leads together. Make sure you understand the type of over current protection being provided - foldback current protection behaves very differently from a strict cut off protection, for instance.
@JeffreyBoye
@JeffreyBoye Жыл бұрын
Also, be mindful of your lab supply's voltage slew rates. A rise time that is too fast may result in inductive kicks through the cabling to the DUT. A rise time that is too slow may result in startup issues at the DUT. In general I've found a primary supply rise time of 1-10 ms to be sufficient for just about everything I've ever touched.
@CSFitness1
@CSFitness1 Жыл бұрын
These are some good points. Speaking to the modern FPGA devices.. I’ve found that measuring the resistance across the main core rails often results in resistance well under 50 ohms from power to ground. This is a consistent result across serial numbers as well, so as the video suggests, at the end of the day know or have a rough idea what to expect based on design.
@JeffreyBoye
@JeffreyBoye Жыл бұрын
@@CSFitness1 Can confirm. I'm currently working on a design featuring a Xilinx Ultrascale device. I've consistently measured a core rail impedance of about 20 ohms using the aforementioned Amprobe 37XR-A meter. The leakage currents are surprisingly large.
@ozanguney6374
@ozanguney6374 Жыл бұрын
Your emphasis on understanding the schematic while measuring resistance is essential. It's all about knowing what to expect and spotting deviations.
@mehmetklc9331
@mehmetklc9331 Жыл бұрын
I've seen many engineers overlook the importance of inrush current management. Thanks for emphasizing this crucial consideration.
@alpoarcade5372
@alpoarcade5372 Жыл бұрын
Double-checking part numbers and pinouts is something I've learned the hard way. Thanks for highlighting this common issue.
@nebibegoktas9993
@nebibegoktas9993 Жыл бұрын
I've used a similar approach to powering up new circuit boards throughout my career. Consistency is key in avoiding potential issues.
@schematica
@schematica Жыл бұрын
Mark, your videos are absolutely fabulous and the best Altium has ever put out.
@MEHMET21.21
@MEHMET21.21 Жыл бұрын
It's great to see a focus on the use of proper tools and equipment in this video. Quality tools can make a world of difference when working with circuit boards.
@mamatakumar1868
@mamatakumar1868 Жыл бұрын
I've been working with circuit boards for years, and I can't stress enough the importance of using a current-limited lab power supply. Great advice!
@kavitakumawat5780
@kavitakumawat5780 Жыл бұрын
One tip I've found helpful when troubleshooting is to keep a notebook of past issues and their solutions. It can save time when encountering similar problems in the future.
@yusufbagatekin2003
@yusufbagatekin2003 Жыл бұрын
To prevent accidental shorts, you can cover the board with an insulating material like Kapton tape, leaving only the areas you need to probe exposed.
@mehmetege5817
@mehmetege5817 Жыл бұрын
Your method for checking the output voltages of regulators is exactly how I approach it. It's a critical step in verifying a board's functionality.
@sakatimathur9257
@sakatimathur9257 Жыл бұрын
Excellent walkthrough, Mark! Your videos always make complex topics much more approachable.
@nandanimahala3977
@nandanimahala3977 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Mark! I've always been nervous about powering up a new circuit board. Your step-by-step guide really helps.
@FlamingBeatsOfficial
@FlamingBeatsOfficial Жыл бұрын
Looks like a cleverly arranged lab setup. Would love to see some practival lab tools & setup tips video.
@himanshsoni6805
@himanshsoni6805 Жыл бұрын
I've just started learning about circuit boards, and this video is very informative. Thanks for sharing!
@nooraimanselamat2116
@nooraimanselamat2116 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clear explanations, Mark! I'm always learning something new from your videos.
@efeguven6123
@efeguven6123 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Can you recommend any resources for learning more about PCB design and troubleshooting?
@bhawya2564
@bhawya2564 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing debugging process, can you please share the link to the thermal camera.
@alperenozer3537
@alperenozer3537 Жыл бұрын
A good practice is to use an oscilloscope to check for any unexpected oscillations or noise on the power rails.
@manasurtandurkar9377
@manasurtandurkar9377 Жыл бұрын
Thermal imaging cameras are such a game changer! Which model do you use, and would you recommend it for beginners?
@TedBrunelle
@TedBrunelle Жыл бұрын
Great video! Btw,Where do you get the aluminum rack that holds all your test equipment on the right of your bench? I love the setup.
@yusufyurdakul66
@yusufyurdakul66 Жыл бұрын
A tip I've found useful is to have a copy of the schematic and layout nearby when troubleshooting a new circuit board. It can help with quickly identifying potential issues.
@tamanakumari5148
@tamanakumari5148 Жыл бұрын
I've never used a current limited lab power supply before, but it sounds essential. Any recommendations for a beginner-friendly one?
@erensekeroglu7605
@erensekeroglu7605 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious - have you ever tried using a multimeter with a temperature probe for troubleshooting instead of a thermal imaging camera?
@yuxuanhuang3523
@yuxuanhuang3523 Жыл бұрын
Some circuits will not boot properly unless given its operating voltage at start-up. My ZVS was running on 4V 3A, maxing out my power supply. However all resistance measurements check out and I was in a hurry. So I thought why not give it a shot. So I disconnected, turned up to 15V and reconnected, this time it only took 0.3Amps and was switching as expected. When it falls below a threshold voltage, it stops switching and turns into a short.
@mohitsani4360
@mohitsani4360 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any tips for troubleshooting when you can't find the issue using the thermal imaging camera?
@soyebfaruki5305
@soyebfaruki5305 Жыл бұрын
I've heard some people use a "smoke test" when first powering up a board. What are your thoughts on this method?
@AdrianGonzalez-ii7jb
@AdrianGonzalez-ii7jb Жыл бұрын
How did you do to avoid any reflection light on your glasses?
@selimbas61
@selimbas61 Жыл бұрын
I didn't really get your explanation on inrush current. Could you clarify that?
@jpkochar6405
@jpkochar6405 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen this video before I accidentally fried my last project. Lesson learned!
@Nanocosm
@Nanocosm Жыл бұрын
Don't forget re power rail resistance measurements that capacitors can look like a low resistance so give the multi meter time to make a better measurement
@optikon2222
@optikon2222 Жыл бұрын
Anybody know what the thermal camera model is he is using? or have recommendation for PCBs - which require being fairly close to the board and decent resolution. TIA
@arifhikmetozakkas2981
@arifhikmetozakkas2981 Жыл бұрын
I tried following your guide, but my circuit board still isn't working. What could I be doing wrong?
@ferhanyuva7545
@ferhanyuva7545 Жыл бұрын
In my experience, paying close attention to the quality of solder joints can save a lot of headaches during the initial power-up process.
@melikee_akyzz
@melikee_akyzz Жыл бұрын
How do you deal with static electricity when working on a new circuit board? Are there any precautions you take to avoid damage?
@hasanyalcin4626
@hasanyalcin4626 Жыл бұрын
I've heard that freezing the board before powering up can help prevent issues. Give that a try.
@lutuvarka2649
@lutuvarka2649 Жыл бұрын
What is the prompt for the thumbnail?
@yagzemreozdemir6804
@yagzemreozdemir6804 Жыл бұрын
You didn't talk much about ESD precautions. You should have mentioned that more.
@yigitgonuldas6749
@yigitgonuldas6749 Жыл бұрын
The pacing of this video was too slow for me. I wish you had covered the material more quickly.
@peckid1245
@peckid1245 Жыл бұрын
If you suspect a specific component is causing issues, try removing it from the circuit and see if the problem persists.
@muhammetfrat7437
@muhammetfrat7437 Жыл бұрын
If you have a short, just pour some rubbing alcohol on the board and watch for bubbles.
@komalmeena7566
@komalmeena7566 Жыл бұрын
What would you say is the most common mistake people make when powering up a new circuit board?
@Antonio-MadTexMex
@Antonio-MadTexMex Жыл бұрын
If you can't afford a thermal camera you can use thermal film.
@lolsypussy
@lolsypussy Жыл бұрын
Lifehack
@AndruShows
@AndruShows Жыл бұрын
You can use alcohol or brake cleaner spray. The area where it evaporates first is the hottest. Thermal film is much less sensitive
@lolsypussy
@lolsypussy Жыл бұрын
@@AndruShows that's alright when you already know the specific problematic area is and just looking for the particular component. Alcohol disperses evaporates quick, not giving enough time to scan a larger area. Another alternative could be rosin atomizer
@saffetcanozturk8429
@saffetcanozturk8429 Жыл бұрын
As an experienced engineer, I can confirm that thermal imaging cameras are a game changer for troubleshooting. It's definitely worth the investment.
@KadirAlim-km8ls
@KadirAlim-km8ls Жыл бұрын
When in doubt, just reflow the whole board in an oven. It'll probably fix any soldering issues.
@korkut6280
@korkut6280 Жыл бұрын
What is the most challenging circuit board issue you've ever encountered, and how did you resolve it?
@exapod23
@exapod23 Жыл бұрын
Step 0: Connect an electrolytic capacitor backwards on you bench PSU as a gift to the electronics Gods before power-up of the new board.
@DiegoColl44
@DiegoColl44 Жыл бұрын
Hi.!
@abdifatahaden4761
@abdifatahaden4761 Жыл бұрын
based
@kapilsingh470
@kapilsingh470 Жыл бұрын
This video was too basic for me. I was hoping for more advanced troubleshooting tips.
@iNowHateAtSigns
@iNowHateAtSigns Жыл бұрын
For beginners, don't bother with a thermal camera, just hold your hand over the board. Don't worry, time heals all wounds.
@uditmeena5716
@uditmeena5716 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any tips for troubleshooting when you can't find the issue using the thermal imaging camera?
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