Safety and Survival for the Canning Stock Route

Adventure Riders head back to complete a part of the Canning Stock Route after failing to complete it the year before due to a major breakdown. They thought they knew what they were in for. They didn’t. Looks like they’ll have to have another crack at it another time to finish the job. Also included in the Vid are some tips n tricks for those new to Adventure Riding. Grab ya gear; lets go!

[@AfricaTwin-Stuff]

Enjoyed that. Very well produced as always. And I appreciate the “real world” approach to Ted trip.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Honda, i guess it fills in some time during Lockdown (depending on where you are). Glad you like the vid.

[@andyblack5687]

If I were to venture into the outback, I’d want to go with a guy like you that is level headed, calm and well-prepared. I feel like I’d have a much better chance of getting back safely.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Andy Black, big praise...thanks for that. The idea is to keep your head while all those around you are losing theirs. Too late for action after you find yourself in the s***. It’s better to avoid it in the first case. Glad you like the vid.

[@pigeonpallz1733]

Agreed !

[@marizarodrigues5554]

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[@andyblack5687]

@Mikel Meilleur This is the most bizarre series of responses to any KZbin comment I’ve ever made.

[@jefferybryson6885]

I know Im asking randomly but does someone know of a trick to get back into an Instagram account?? I was dumb lost the account password. I would appreciate any tricks you can offer me

[@theruffiankj4164]

I’ve watched just about all of your vids, Steve, and as a 66 yr old DR and KLR rider from South Africa, I must say this is one of your best: hallmark understatement, beautiful and appropriate motif music tracks, stunning drone shots, and those badass mash tracks you use to underpin your self-ironising humor - you’ve made my day ‘bru! And about to set out in a few days time on my own next desert-riding-seasonal jaunt across the arid hinterland on the DR ... Love your work, man!

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi The Ruffian KJ, it get tough the older you get lol. I keep getting drawn back to our Outback. I just love the harsh beauty of it. I’m sure SAfrica and our mainland Australia were joined once millions of years ago. The landscapes (and geology) have so much in common. We are blessed to be able to experience it in a way that others can only dream of. Glad you like the vid. Thanks for watching. 👍🇦🇺

[@davidforeman2734]

I love the respect you give to the land because it could bite you very quickly. I do a lot of back country riding here in Canada but totally different type of terrain but still you have to respect the land.

[@dunes2dust216]

Thoroughly enjoyed that, thanks mate.

[@ahughes981]

Great video - thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.

[@BIGWILLYAUS]

Outstanding work and solid advice 👍

[@4bnewb969]

Been following you for a few years now. Your uploads are always interesting and informative, this one no exception. 👍👍👍👍 cheers

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi 4BnB, glad you like the Channel content. Thanks for watching

[@Free_Ranger_CT110]

Enjoyable video, good common sense knowledge shared by Steve all without being preachy. Great stuff!

[@bryckrobin4448]

Well done Steve , great show

[@BTBSean0]

I watched the previous show today again for a refresher I kid you not

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi BTB, i hope it meets expectations....

[@BTBSean0]

@@mongreldogproductions Great show buddy ...really enjoyed that and some great tips for the young grasshoppers .....

[@marcusrwalker]

Well done Men, that's a hard ride.

[@bradpeebles9158]

Fantastic mate as always. thanks so much for your hard work in bringing these videos to the rest of us!

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi BP, my reward is when the viewer enjoys the ride. Thanks for watching.

[@mickruban3567]

I really enjoy your productions. Great tips for the uninitiated.

[@justgjt]

Great info and advice. I always enjoy your adventures.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi justgjt, glad you like the vid...thanks for your support over the years. 👍

[@markmakinson1423]

Good vid Steve, I really enjoyed that one. Keep up the great work 👍👍

[@frebuton2016]

Another great video! Thanks for sharing. I've been watching all your videos for years now. You easily got my favorite channel. Great footage and great advice! Keep those videos coming. Thank you Sir!

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Fre, glad you enjoy the Channel content and vids.I'm always trying to improve with each one. Thanks for your support.

[@lachlananderson9744]

Your videos are getting better and better, keep them coming!

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Lachlan, glad you like the content...I’m tryin’ to improve each time. Thanks for watching.

[@graemeshaw9716]

Always a good watch. Sensible decision making, good lessons for us all. Thanks for sharing.👍

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Graeme, glad you like the vid.

[@globetrotter683]

Well done. Love your work. Thanks for sharing.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Thanks Globetrotter...glad you like the vid.

[@johngrant7979]

As usual many thanks Steve for taking us along for the ride, but more important... always looking forward to seeing you on the other side 👍 Great vlog, Maybe you can do a short vlog on your two wheel selection of machines you have 👍

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi JG...it would be a short Vlog. I have the two bikes, a DR650 for the gnarly stuff and the R1200GSA for eating up the big km. I love them both. Bikes, like cars, are a compromise. You won't find one that fits all. Hope you like the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@gonefishn6024]

Thanks Steve another great video we👍👍

[@jf7243]

Wise heads made this video. Well done and Thankyou!

[@peterdawson7775]

Great video , just love the out back scenery , thanks for sharing.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Peter Dawson, I keep getting drawn back to its harsh beauty...thanks for watching.

[@keithwinters3031]

Great production..lots of info..get there one day....proper bike adventure..have to build up stamina..and wait for the planes to start flying...looking at tours already..what a wilderness...something l can't imagine.

[@MidCoastAdventures]

Great trip! And gotta love the mighty DR 😎👍 So happy with mine- prefect adv bikes 😊

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi MCA, i couldn't have said it any better myself (although i do enjoy the R1200GSA for those cross continent rides). Glad you like the vid.

[@barrymurphy3554]

Fantastic video showing off Australia’s out back not a place to take lightly. Again the Bows nailed it great everything those tips you can use anywhere & anytime. Thanks so much loved Cheers

[@BikerBytes]

Man, Australia is beautiful. Ever day I count my lucky Southern Cross stars. Tough call to make to cut the trip short but as you said the best decisions are made with a clear head. Great video mate. Cheers.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Biker Bytes, the decision to exit was not that hard to make...it just made more sense to exit than continue. We are blessed (esp here in WA atm) and I do love the harsh beauty of the Outback. Glad you like the vid.

[@jimaylward2396]

Great trip Steve and some great advice 👋😁☘☘☘

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Jim, always good to read your comments...hope you like the vid. Thanks for your support over the years. 👍🇦🇺

[@dantheman6159]

Glad I found your channel. Love the vids and practical advice. Amazing work mate. Thanks for sharing

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Dan The Man, welcome to the Channel. Hope you like the content. 👍🇦🇺🏍

[@dantheman6159]

@@mongreldogproductions love the content mate and your level headed was no matter how gnarly the situation is. Top work mate.

[@RozalynVeersma]

Stirling adventure & smart decision to keep it a safe and memorable one. Always an enjoyable watch! Tnx for sharing m8! 😁👍🏁🏕🏍🏍🏍💨

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Roz, glad you like the vid. Now you better get back to focussing on your own adventure.

[@RozalynVeersma]

Off to NT day after tomorrow now solo! 😁🙏 In Kununurra at the moment waiting on panniers to be fixed by trimmer. Too many drops! 🤦🏻‍♀️😂

[@stuartkcalvin]

08:40 the last time that I was in Wiluna, three years ago, there was a blackout - so no fuel. Drove down the Gun Barrel hwy to an old grape farm and got a cheap donga. Power was back on the next day.

[@rustyw3858]

Great and smart advice

[@boringbob9357]

Good Stuff Mr Bly. Great advice as always.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi robert, Glad you like the vid. Thanks for watching

[@losttheplotcolin]

great video as always, glad to see your your getting out and about.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi LTPC, i'm not sure where you are but here in Western Australia (WA) we are pretty well back to normal because our border has been shut from the rest of the country. WA is a BIG State so there is lots to do and explore. Glad you like the vid.

[@waynelemmon3007]

Great video. Awesome tips. Visited Lake Balard in October 2018. Ended up staying 3 days there.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Wayne, glad you like the vid. Lake Ballard is an extraordinary place. Thanks for watching.

[@lorgagssertao4036]

Love this video mate!!

[@emmanuelmorgan569]

Another fantastic doco/video Steve. I admire your sense of adventure man, it's really inspiring. Don't let the damn Canning Stock Route defeat you though man. Go back one day and get your revenge....lol. Respect.

[@mongreldogproductions]

I have put it on my 'to do' list lol. I will be back! Watch this space. Thanks for watching.

[@outbacknomad9939]

Great video

[@BigBikeAdventures]

I’m looking forward to getting over to that side of the side of the country. Good video mate. 👍

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi BBA, we’ve been blessed over here in WA with most of our restrictions lifted so far. It’s enabled us to explore our backyard which is pretty big. Glad you Ike the vid.

[@BigBikeAdventures]

Mongrel Dog Productions I’ve been fortunate to have been able to keep moving since the original lockdown. All going well I’ll cross into SA early September.

[@whitedrguy6503]

Another great vid of the Aussie outback, thanks for posting. Have to agree about the DR, great reliable bike for sure, sadly my 2014 don’t do adventure Kay’s just suburban stuff around Melbourne but it has just clocked over 280,000 and only pulled apart once to replace the gearbox output shaft, but the thing is so cheap to rebuild anyway may as well keep it. That red sand is messy stuff, you can always tell a vehicle from WA, it has that red tinge on everything. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@mongreldogproductions]

Bloody Hell...280,000 kms????? You should be sponsored by Suzuki. I would NEVER expect those sort of Km out of a Japanese motorcycle EVER!!!! Hope you like the vid....sorry about your Lockdown. Regards from WA.

[@slakk5093]

@@mongreldogproductions you should check out the CBR600 F4I with over 300,000 Miles on it.. 482,000KM still on original engine/pistons/clutch.. these japanese bikes are amazing kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXqrq2CLlJxmeKc

[@tonyrdr7207]

Another wonderful production mate. Was hoping you would get some aerial views of the tight tracks on the CSR when the terrain beats me up I don’t feel like taking too much footage either. Safety first always and if it does not feel right you peel off but you were sooo close. From memory when we did it unsupported you were close to the end of the hard bit as the country opens up into station tracks. Got me all exited might have to give it another go before I get too old

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Tony Rdr, I’m led to believe it does get easier south of Well 5 but I did not want to take the chance. We were both knackered and had made poor time. It was best to exit when we did and pretty much guarantee a good outcome rather than take our chances. I don’t regret our decision. We will get back there one day. Thanks for watching.

[@jimdoolan2277]

Great video thanks for sharing put it on the bucket list going to be awhile before I can get over from new Zealand might be to old bye then do have a dr650 myself Great bike and just got the new 1050 v Strom Cheers keep up the good work 👍 👌

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Jim, there are some companies that do 14 day supported rides on the CSR. It would be a lot easier with somebody else carrying all the crap. Maybe I should’ve taken that option lol. Glad you like the vid.

[@storeroomjeff1]

Couple of comments. The Canning Stock Route must have been really tough going for you to make the decision to leave. I have utmost respect for you and your common sense. I also liked the advice along the way. Make sensible decisions while you're able was probably one of the wisest. 👍

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Jeff Bourdette, I’m getting older and I have nothing to prove. It was tough enough for me to realise that it was no longer enjoyable and we were placing ourselves at risk. Sometimes you just have to make the call early. We’ll go back there and finish the trip...but on our terms (probably in 4WD’s where it will be more comfortable lol). Thanks for watching. 👍

[@adventure503]

Thanks for that Steve. I hope to do the CSR in the near future. Did the Nullabor Track with your advice a couple of years ago, then from Perth to Darwin via the Warburton. Got lost a few times, my brother left on the Flying Doctor from Warrakurna. Got lost near Kings Canyon when the track disappeared 100kms off the road. We need to get back to Darwin to do the Kimberlies. Also did Death Valley, Arizona and New Mexico last year. That bike is in Houston. I'm stuck in NZ in lockdown

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Ian, sounds like you’ve been livin’ the dream until recently. Sorry to hear about your brother. The CSR is a tough ride unless supported. Stay safe. Hope you like the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@adventure503]

@@mongreldogproductions I watch all your videos, they are great. I am thinking of a fully supported CSR ride. I'm fed up carrying gas , water and camping gear.

[@daring2venture671]

Take me back !

[@robpinter5431]

Amazing drone footage that shows the vastness of the outback, so who needs a ADV road trip after seeing this episode?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi RP, nothin' like being out there and experiencing it first hand. I am always drawn to the Outback...there is just something about its harsh beauty that keeps drawing me back. Glad you like the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@raratate]

good vid, like your adventures and where you go

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi raratate, so much to do; so little time. Glad you like the vid.

[@thebigfella9095]

well done!

[@dasbongo4776]

love your videos mate, sound track is awesome....gday from indonesia......

[@mongreldogproductions]

Glad you enjoy the Channel content. Thanks for watching.

[@gumbysenduro6546]

Very enjoyable i must say :)

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi GE, glad you enjoyed the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@brettmatson9052]

Thanks again

[@mongreldogproductions]

You're welcome!

[@zzmike]

I have been LOVING your adventures. I always wanted to visit Australia (the Outback, particularly) but have left it too late into doddering older age. But you allow me to see what I have been missing! THANK YOU!!! Incidentally, a couple of times you have said "we need to drive off road far enough to camp so that no-one can see our fire." Are there worries out there of personal safety from your fellow man? I am just curious. I suppose "people approaching whom you don't know" in the middle of nowhere at 3am . . . it's not really a warm feeling. ---Mike

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi ADwTLaPC, Australia is a very safe place to travel. We prefer to get far enough off the road to prevent detection, particularly if I am on my own or just a very small group. Some of the areas we travel are only frequented by local inhabitants of small, remote Communities and we don’t like surprises in the middle of the night like you have suggested. It becomes less important when group size increases in numbers. Glad you enjoy the Channel content. New content out shortly. Thanks for watching.

[@diamondmidnightgardener]

And how good is Bob Cooper. I did one of his survival courses, what a top no-bullshit bloke. I’ve got a later version of his survival kit.... never had to use it touch wood, but worth taking everywhere.

[@mongreldogproductions]

I never met Bob personally but i did a bit of survival training while in the Army. I carry so much crap in the hope I never have to use it from spares to tools to additional food and lots more. You are pretty limited when on the bike.

[@rogerhargreaves2272]

Wow, that was a beast of a road! Wasn’t that the route Frank Hann took to Lake Disappointment? Nice production. Thank you. Rog from Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi RH, I had to do a google search on Frank Hann. It appears he found Lake Disapointment when he approached from the West...that is much further North of where we were. He must have been one tough cookie. Thanks for watching. Glad you like the vid. 👍🇦🇺

[@rogerhargreaves2272]

@@mongreldogproductions - we drove from Perth to Broome, inland via Tom Price. We named our Toyota Land Cruiser “Frank” in honour of the “tough cookie” pioneer. It must have been hard going, but, he found his lake, but it was dry, hence the name I guess. Keep safe. Rog. ✌️😎

[@philbiggs4493]

Nice Video Steve enjoyed your adv riding tips. I have just bought a new DR650 here in NZ . I am a novice but plan to do some adventure riding around New Zealand. I would be interested to know what mods you guys find worthwhile for your riding although I dont expect to be doing as extreme stuff as you . I would also be interested in a video sharing with us what you pack and take on your adventures :)

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Phil, most Riders here in Oz would change the fuel tank, modify the suspension, change the seat, fit a suitable luggage system, and fit a screen of some type. Other Riders might swap out the pegs for pivot pegs, lower the pegs (to improve the ergonomics), modify the carby (jet and air box mod), grind down the header weld (Exhaust), replace the standard exhaust. I haven't done all these mods and quite frankly, where do you stop. A $10,000 bike can end up costing thousands more. Start with small steps and make those changes you think are necessary. As far as a packing list goes it would depend on how remote i go and whether i'm in a small group or on my own. Have a look at KZbin for ideas...there are a number of Riders with suggestions on what to take and what not to take. Good luck. Enjoy the ride.

[@marthinusvorster]

1st vid I've seen from Mongrel Dog Productions. What an adventure. Dream of mine to do CSR. Good insight on road conditions and camp possibilities. Wonder how a difficulty rating would come out if put to wider rider forum. Let's say...Little Dessert, Big Dessert, Simpson crossing and Canning crossing and what else we wanna throw into the (how did an earlier comment describe it) predator hat.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi MV, ya gotta be careful with comparisons...one rider might tell you its easy and another might say it bloody difficult. My experience is that once a rider has completed a ride, the conditions are 'underestimated' because he has completed it (if that makes sense). I nearly died in the Outback in 2017 because a rider told me that, "yeah, its not that bad". I was to find out later that the track was a lot more difficult than anticipated. Glad you like the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@grahamglencorse307]

Another great video Steve. There’s got to be an Oscar coming your way! Glad you made the right decision when the odds begin to stack up as the outback is not very forgiving. Thanks for refreshing my memories of the CSR 2007.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi GG, an Oscar???? Nah, I don't have anything suitable to wear. If you've done the CSR you know how tough it can be. Chris and I are both in our 60's so maybe we were fooling ourselves in the first place. Still, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Glad you like the vid.

[@royparkriding4443]

Awesome video i havent riding much in sand yet but definatly would be tough. I Ride a Wr250R so the lightness would when offroading on sand , Cant wait for some more off-Roading, adventure and camping setup videos. Awesome new channel ill hit a subscribe and like.👌 Coming from a up in coming youtube channel from wa as well👍. have you done the captian Fawcett track at nanga yet?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Roy Park Riding, I’ve done the Fawcett Track but only in a 4WD. The WR250 is a very capable bike and is a good platform to hone your skills. Glad you like the vid.

[@jjsadv]

Great clip.. Yep, knowing when to take plan B is essential. Its still an adventure if you take plan B, and you get to ride again, and not end up on the news..

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi JJ, yep, always try and have a plan B. Thanks for watching.

[@astrobusa]

@@mongreldogproductions ... I'm guessing there will be a future "Unfinished Business" trip to finish the Canning ?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi astrobusa, I hadn’t thought that far ahead yet....might have to finish the job in the 4WD and be surrounded by some creature comforts lol. I do enjoy the Outback!

[@russellflesser3447]

Hi Steve. I like watching your videos as they are simply constructed with practical advise and not an add from start to finish. Could you please expand on why you decided to finish when you did, as you looked OK to me ? Do you do any extra training prior to a trip to increase your general level of fitness or is being bike fit enough? Is there a video in your prepping for one of these trips? Food, water, fuel calculations route selections ect Thank you for your effort, looking forward to the next one. Cheers

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi RF, believe me, i knew the only option was to exit when we did. I may look good on the exterior, but i'm like a duck on the water. I look calm above the surface but there is a whole lot goin' on under the waterline. Without being disrespectful, you can only travel as fast or as well as your slowest player. I could tell that Chris was suffering the effects of fatigue (as was I...I am in tune with what is going on inside my body and mind). It was remote, help could have been days away and if we needed assistance it would have turned ugly. Fatigue is not to be treated lightly. When it no longer remains enjoyable, you have to question why you are out there....to get it wrong can have serious consequences. My general fitness is where it should be...I cycle most days but both of us are in our 60's. I am 62 and Chris is 66. Age can play a part. You dont wanna find yourself in a position where you need to make decisions quickly or without consideration of the possible consequences. The Canning will be be out there for some time to come. We might go back to finish the job but in the comfort of our 4WD's. Fuel, water and other considerations come with experience. Some of these trip are months in the planning. Thanks for your interest in the Vid. Thanks for watching.

[@russellflesser3447]

@@mongreldogproductions I am 61 myself and know what you are saying. I also have no bounce which is unfortunate considering my skill level. Thank you very much for your honest reply. I will be recommending your videos to others. Stay safe.

[@braaimaster9218]

fab - keep it up :)

[@kk-wm6sr]

Could you consider to put together a video on your kit and riding gear. Not after a sales pitch but am interested in what you wear, set up the bike and what works and is tough enough to survive the trip. Thanks, Kevin

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Kevin, thanks for your interest in the Vid. I wear what i can afford....Adv Riding gear can be VERY costly. I don't wear any 'Brand' names and usually are not too fussy when it comes to the right gear. I do wear a Leatt turtle suit under my gear which provides chest protection...I remove the armour in the jacket. My boots and helmet are O'Neil and the gloves and pants are DriRider. The DR650 has all the usual mods to make it suitable for long distance Adv Touring. There are a number of Vids on KZbin on bike setup (and gear) from numerous people but each of them would differ slightly. My advice; take small steps and see what works for you personally. It will take a while before you stumble across what suits your individual needs. Hope you like the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@AntiCoruptionCentral]

Nothing like a bucket-load(list) of isolation to test friendships ... and faith. Great footage and editing. What model of bird are you using?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi AntiCorruptionCentral, Mavic Pro...there are probably more portable ones around now which are more compact but they are expensive to replace so I’ll wait till I crash this one before replacing it. Glad you like the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@mal-wx6tu]

The DR like the KLR are cost effective choices, for ADV bikes but, the DR has a weak gear in the gearbox, and the KLR the dreaded Doohickey balancer lever, but good solutions in the aftermarket for both, I have a KLR Gen2.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi mal62, yeah although the weak link (output seal) on the DR is now fixed during the production of the bike (since 2013). The seal use to leak around 30,000km but a retaining plate could be fitted post production. I think the gear (3rd) you mention is because that gear shaft was always working in each gear (although I’m not a technical kinda guy). Thanks for watching. Hope you like the vid.

[@scottmclennan6114]

Good old DR. Have you done any of the popular mods to the engine like the pro-cycles jetting kit and an aftermarket pipe?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi SMcL, not those mods but the other usual ones. Suspension upgrade, large tank, after market seat, racks, lowered pegs, pivot pegz. Mine has done about 50,000 km and I have the confidence in it to keep going for a while longer. Hope you like the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@stef9243]

Hello, great video! Have you ever found a gold nugget while installing your tent?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Not yet…but I’d like to. Glad you enjoyed the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@IamthePMofAustralia]

Hey Steve, just interested to know what specific reasons led you to cut short and off the CSR, or was it a combination of a lot of many things? I saw a couple of offs, they can certainly be unnerving. Be very interested to hear about the decision making process. Cheers.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi IATPMOA, simple really (but not a decision that was taken lightly). I expected a return trip to Wiluna to take two nights and so packed accordingly (food wise with a little more 'just in case'). The first night was spent in a bush camp before we hit Well 9. We left Well 9 about 1.00pm. We had 62 km to get to Well 6 where i knew there was good water. The going was tough. Sand that was just deep enough to rattle you...about 100mm (4 inches) deep. That keeps the bike unstable unless you are standing up, leaning back and applying constant throttle. Most times you are just a passenger and not in control. The bike will decide where it wants to go. You wrestle with it most of the way. That becomes physically tiring. There were some deep washouts that prevented us to continue (that was my 'off' when i knew i would not be able to get out of the washout at the other end. We ended up getting the bike out of the washout but we then had to continue riding in the bush off the track. When this happens there is a high chance of staking the front (or rear) tyre(s). Our overall average speed was not very fast. It was over 30 degrees Celcius. We arrived at Well 6 (remember 62km) around 5.20pm. We had a further 200km to go to get to the main road leading to Wiluna. The following day was no better. Chris had an off and could not stand up his bike (too heavy) and i returned to assist. It was not the first time he had an off (Chris is a very good rider) and standing the bikes up saps your energy. We needed to rest a couple of times as we continued South. It took us about 2 hours to travel 19 km to Well 5. We were already making mistakes and it was still early in the day. We had nothing to prove and we were unsure of the conditions further South....we think they improved but were not prepared to take that chance. We exited at Well 5 and have no regrets about the decision. Nobody died and we did not need backup or rescuing. I am 62 yo and Chris is 66. We learnt something about ourselves (time to give twin track the flick). Winner, Winner. I hope that answers your question. Hope you liked the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@Andre-hi9xn]

I read this somewhere in the middle of nowhere (the most famous place in Australia, right?): "The desert is a great predator, just wait for you to make a mistake and kill you, or, eat you." Canning Stock Route seen on the map seems easy and small... No doubt, I miss Australia! And the Australian humour! like this" hey mate, your bike decided to take a nap? " Thanks for the hard work of filming, editing and sharing. Kind regards.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Andre, yeah, the Desert needs to be treated with great respect. I'm attracted to its harsh beauty but wouldnt want to be caught with my gaurd down. Glad you like the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@isnoo1]

I did a Bob Cooper Survival course (back in the '80's) and it has stood me in good stead since then. Need to update now that zI am about to go back on the road........ would appreciate some tips of who to go to these days.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi KO'D, I've been out of the loop too long....I wouldn't know where to start. Me personally, i always travel with a 'survival book' in the car (its in the glove box) and just have my years of experience with me when i'm on the bike. My only tip....eat the weak and hope you get rescued early.

[@isnoo1]

@@mongreldogproductions ROFLMBO!!!

[@wildmongols]

A Yank here from Wyoming. I was in NSW for 6 months, working on stations from Dubbo to Brewarnia to Tilpa. Had some free time, and got to Lightning Ridge, over to Broken Hill, and down to the ACT. Saw a fair bit of country, but nothing like you've done. When you cross central Aus, out by the rock, and you have to get permits, are they hard to get? How long do you have to wait for those to come through? Enjoy your channel!

[@mongreldogproductions]

Glad you enjoy the Channel content. The permits are available on line, easy to apply for and generally responded to immediately or within a day or two. Most are free although the Canning Stock Route and some others do come with a fee. Thanks for watching.

[@paulformaioni37]

great video, what kind of drone is it?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Paul. DJI Mavic pro....drones always give a different perspective. Glad you like the vid.

[@diamondmidnightgardener]

I like the screen, very white Christmassy in the red desert

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hahahaha...I've since replaced the screen with another and managed to overcook that one as well only not quite so bad. I gotta spend less time in the kitchen and more time in the Outback. Thanks for watching.

[@astrobusa]

Another fantastic watch, thanks Steve. I know you need to edit video's down to a reasonable length.... but have you ever thought of loading up whole "Unedited" files ? So we can flick through them and see more of the actual trip ? No voice over, no explanations.... just the "Unedited" version of all the footage you took. I for one would find them very interesting and I'm sure others would too. Just an idea... I don't know how much work would be involved or if its even possible. Thanks again for your great content.... regards.... Bob

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Bob, I knew this vid was gunna be longer than most...and I also know that some viewers would be lost because of it. It is a fine line between maintaining interest and losing the audience. I even deleted some stuff from this vid to try and reduce its overall length., I don't think 'Part 1 and Part 2' vids are successful...I've tried that in the past. I just have to find that happy medium. I continue to evolve and are always striving to do better each time. I should hold a 'movie night' at my place and invite all the regulars hahaha (you'd be invited) and show all the blooper reels. Thanks for your continued support over the years.

[@markhills3922]

It must be a lot harder than it looks if an experienced bloke like yourself has to cut the trip short. Although I do understand riding in 30c+ is like with all the gear on. HOT! Especially in tough going with no real air to cool down that big heater under the tank. I wonder what your mate on the Africa Twin thought of the going? Thanks again for the tips and sharing your rides with us.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Mark, Chris and I have nothing to prove....once it no longer becomes enjoyable then it is time to pull the pin. We may have been able to continue but the decision to exit at Well 5 was not a difficult one. I never want to become a headline or be responsible for having to be rescued. Well 5 is the destination for Desert Raid 2021 (i'm not sure where you're located) so if younger blokes want to take on the Canning Stock Route they are welcome to it. JP (on the Africa Twin) approached from the South but turned around before Well 2A due to the conditions Thanks for watching.

[@markhills3922]

@@mongreldogproductions I hear ya Steve. If it's not fun it makes the going so much harder. I'm in Victoria so I'm kinda stuck at the minute which is how I'm finding time to be watching KZbin. I no longer have a bike setup for Adventure riding either. I have developed an interest in the old MX and Enduro bikes from the 70's and early 80's but I am getting the urge for another ADV bike. I sold the R1200GS a few years ago as I couldn't find the time to ride it. I'm 55 so I'm not exactly young. I am thinking of an Africa Twin as a new stead but after watching how tricky conditions can get I'm re-assessing that idea.

[@hardlyworkun3786]

hi from Canada, when I travel in northern Canada I am bear aware. Australia presents different wildlife challenges, I never see any mention of snakes or other bitey critters (at least at the 12 minute mark). what sort of precautions do you take for wildlife?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi har dlyworkun, wildlife? Precautions? None. We do have saltwater crocs up in northern Australia that will take you if you are near water. Snakes are more scared of us then we are of them. They hibernate in winter and once they feel vibration in the ground they scamper. As long as you don’t stand on them they won’t ‘attack’ you. We avoid ants nests when setting up camp (the big ones can hurt). If you camp near freshwater you can expect mosquitos. Our lizards, goannas, feral camels, kangaroos are all pretty harmless as long as they are not cornered. Dingoes will attack if in a pack but that is most unusual. You won’t find them in packs in the desert. We DO have some man eaters in our Oceans. Hope you like the vid. Thanks for watching.

[@juddbowen3858]

Just wondering what pannier bags you have on your DR650, they look like they are a larger capacity than the usual canvas pannier bags you can buy. Any info would be great thanks.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi JB, these are bags from Steel Pony’s based in South Australia. www.steelpony.com.au/ I have plastic inserts (Willow 25 litre plastic rubbish bins) that give them shape and protect the canvas from sharp edges etc. I think the manufacturer (Steel Pony’s) based his bags on the ones made by Andy Strapz. Thanks for watching. Hope you liked the vid.

[@markillingworth1929]

Do you recommend a steering damper for the sand ? I'm 60 too and have always had drama with sand.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi MI, everybody struggles with sand. Me, I'm out to lunch with a steering damper. If you can afford it, and think it will make a difference, then get it fitted. Only you will be be able to decide whether it makes a difference. Chris had one on his bike and is an experienced Rider....he still came to grief. Do it....and let me know. Good luck. Thanks for watching.

[@markillingworth1929]

@@mongreldogproductions okay mate cheers 6 hundred bucks later... struggle just the same.

[@rivernet62]

I have heard that the heat of reentry will melt a wind screen but I’ve never actually seen it. How fast do you boys drive in the outback?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Mark, hahaha…I’d almost forgotten about that screen. I’ve since replaced it but I turned down the oven a bit and didn’t overcook the next one (well, not much anyway). Thanks for watching.

[@hollandp9606]

Could you show some shots of the southern night sky for us northern hemisphere stuck blokes.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi HPR, I’ll try to in future vids. Thanks for watching.

[@bruceparr1678]

The DR650 is one of the best motorcycles ever made, Only the MZ250 comes close for reliability.

[@stuartkcalvin]

13:35 Old Army guy here. A survival kit needs to be carried on the body, not in a tool box; a grab bag can let you down.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Old Army guy here…I wear a vest that has enough on board (food, water, minor first aid, lighter, some tools, hat etc) that should keep me alive for 48 hours if I’m conscious. Hopefully I’ll never be in a position to have to use it/them. Thanks for watching.

[@thejackofalltravels8267]

That camel was a beast don’t you usually ride a BMW ? Do you think you will go back for 5-1 Great videos

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi The Jack of all travels, depending on where I’m going depends on which bike I ride. I do own both. The BMW R1200 is reserved for doing the long km when I cross this wide brown land or when the landscape allows for a a big Adventure bike to cover the terrain easily. If it’s gunna get a bit snotty then I’ll use the DR650. We will do the 5 to 1....but probably in 4WD’s where we will be more comfortable and unlikely to fall off lol. Watch this space. Glad you like the vid.

[@graemeashton1917]

If it was me, I would have to be 1km away from anyone as l fart like a bazooka going off lol 😂😂😂

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

Hay mate always follow your channel, a fella I know done the Cannoning stock route on his SWM Superdual 650’ ( the Old Redesigned Husky TE 630 ) he has close to 50,000 Kms on his new and it hasn’t missed a beat , just the usual maintenance + he replaced Headsteam bearing at 45,000 , most of his riding is off road . Unfortunately iv only done 15,000 km on mine since 2017 due to work & Coronavirus. Crap 💩. But ride mine line an enduro bike , I will be interested if his makes it to 100,000km ( or any other Superdual- with a rebuild of course ) Yes the DR,s are definitely a workhorse but not very exciting.. .

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi IAATRKIA, "Yes the DR,s are definitely a workhorse but not very exciting.. ." hahaha. I have enough excitement in my life without having anything more powerful than the DR (although i do have the R1200GSA for snapping my neck back if i feel the desire). Thanks for watching.

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

Mongrel Dog Productions cool 😎 mate your knowledge is fantastic fella 👍

[@jmsask]

👏🍻

[@johnzee691]

👍

[@barryjeffrey4857]

Where did you start from, what town did you go through..

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Barry, we started in Perth (Western Australia) and went thru Toodyay, Payne’s Find, Sandstone, Wiluna and then onto the Canning Stock Route entering thru Glenayle Station.

[@xw8462]

Can I beat this route on my Harley? :) my bike has ape hanger handlebar and a super comfy designer seat.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi XW, there is only one way to find out...maybe you should enter the Canning Stock Route from the south starting at Well 1. That way, if the going gets too tough you can always turn around. I'm sure Million Dollar Bogan (kzbin.info/door/QP8xYYN_pPF5Jfd4vB534A) would give it a crack on his Road King. Let me know how you go. Thanks for watching.

[@mikedew380]

Why do you get off the road far enough so no one can see your fire? Do you have issues with other travelers?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Mike, Sometimes, in the remote Outback, there can be a problem with alcoholism and the local communities. Without being considered prejudice, we need to get far enough off the road so we don't get any surprises during the night from some travelers doing a 'grog run' after payday. Alcohol is banned in a lot of the Communities and if we have beer, and they can smell it, then it could cause conflict. Not everybody in the Outback has good intentions. Have you seen the movie 'Wolf Creek'? Scary and spooky. Thanks for watching.

[@twocrowsdown]

I deliver fuel out east of Wiluna and out the Gt Central road - you’re dead right about the conditions in summer out there. Screw up or get lost and you’re in serious trouble.

[@mongreldogproductions]

...and yet how many times do tourists still need to be rescued. They see words like 'Anne Beadell Highway' and figure "how tough can it be". Hope you like the vid. Thanks for watching

[@twocrowsdown]

Mongrel Dog Productions I always watch your vids, but as a KLR650 owner, I feel the DR gets maybe a little too much praise sometimes ;)

[@mongreldogproductions]

@@twocrowsdown Doesn't matter what you ride; as long as you get out there when you can.

[@mongolike513]

Don’t set camp in the dark on top of an ant# nest!

[@mongreldogproductions]

That sounds like very good advice! Thanks for watching.

[@davemcmahon8140]

Well pay attention dummy 🤪 ok picked up more info the 2nd time through this vid steve. How to pick a bush camp. Thx

[@mongreldogproductions]

Don't be too hard on yourself Dave...

[@DonHavjuan]

Inreach is the go. SPOT is garbage in comparison, and Satphone ... what is this, 1995?

[@mongreldogproductions]

Thanks for your input..as long as Riders consider something that suits their needs. That's better than nothing at all. The satphone comes in handy for ordering pizza. Thanks for watching.

[@holdenrestoration2557]

I'm disappointed, a trip was planned and a life experience come what may was anticipated and for reasons I cant determine apart from emotional doubt and physical training ended. If I may you all need to consult a physical trainer and get physically and emotional fit and finish the job you started, otherwise you will in the end spend the rest of your life justifying the unjust. Go back when prepared and knock it over.

[@mongreldogproductions]

Hi Holden Restoration, thanks for that insight. Hope you like the vid.

[@Kevin-lz7fj]

Beautiful but tuff country

[@mongreldogproductions]

Yes, it is. But we keep getting drawn back to it's harsh beauty.