Safety vs No Safety vs Decocker (Self Defense Comparison)

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[@mojomonkey12]

Very informative Matt! As a newer shooter, this type of info is invaluable. I too love 1911's, but I rarely carry any of mine, not even my compact models. They are my favorite gun to shoot, and to even clean, but I don't want to have to worry about the thumb safety in a SD situation, also, 7 rounds is nice, but 13 is better! I am currently carrying a glock 23, my only glock, and am looking into m&p shield.

[@PHIllip324]

One thing I would've brought up is the decocker on the Beretta 92FS. It's slide-mounted so that it can tilt the firing pin downwards, thus making it mechanically impossible to go off.

[@lrrprangerglenn]

Your " going back to basics" series of vids are really timely with all the new folks to guns and are really concise and fast moving! Sharing with people I know who are new to firearms.

[@SpecialK6685]

Nice quick, accurate comparison video. You speak very well, nice pace with no "uh's", "uhmm's" and dead air.

[@LowBudgetYoutuber]

I fully agree. I learned all I need to know in a timely educational manner. I now know the difference. I didn't fully understand it before.

[@akhilnarain1635]

Very helpful, 10 years later.

[@mr.mr.3301]

I'm really starting to get away from striker fired guns and going back to dasa

[@kennaiseeney4989]

This video was very informative. Thank you for clearly explaining the pros and cons of certain weapons and safety mechanisms.

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Kennya Nailah Seeney Glad u liked it, thanks 4 watching

[@pemtax557]

Thanks ... the very best explanation of Safety vs Decocker vs Safety\Decocker I've seen. It was well organized and demonstrated with common sense reasons for each. Cheers!!

[@hotrodryan15]

I actually learned something very needed before buying or suggesting cc guns. Thanks

[@tombats6428]

Some agencies around the world carry pistols with an empty chamber and have trained to pull the slide as they unholster the pistol. I live in a rural area with very little crime and I carry with empty chamber, unless I carry an all metal S&W as 669, 4566, 4006 and 3913 or my PPK if I feel the .380 enough for the trip/day. I make an exception to the CZ 40 P and RAMI, that have the half cock position. Good video.

[@jmyersv1]

Picked up a Sig SP2022 the other day. Love the way its set up.

[@sergs9455]

Nice vid Matt, I had been embarrassed to ask what the decocker did.

[@spoonman73]

Nice explanation man! I personally carry my XDM loaded but not cocked as it only takes a split second to do it and I practice it as part of my draw stroke. This is a compromise I'm willing to make for the added level of safety. But hey, that's just me.

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Exactly brother, thanks 4 watching

[@michaelle3743]

Best information! Finally clearing up all confusion! I didn't know the Sig 2340 should be decocked before firing.

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Glad ya liked it brother

[@TLeschar]

I prefer to regard striker-fired mechanisms as more similar to single action sear groups, since the pull of the trigger causes 1 action, as far as the firing mechanisms are concerned.

[@MxChloeB42]

Very interesting and informative video. Never even heard of a decocker before, shows what I know about firearms.

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Thanks bro, glad ya liked it

[@ManInTheBigHat]

Nice presentation. Clear and to the point. Refreshing. Thanks.

[@LowBudgetYoutuber]

I just want a Gun. Any Gun. Great video.

[@ArmyStinger150]

Another great video Matt. I have a Zastava EZ .40 which many would say is a Sig P226 clone. Although Zastava Arms has been around way before Sig. But my point is, they both have the same decocker...serves me just fine.

[@ssstealth]

I'm surprised you don't have a 1911. I bought one on the centennial a couple years ago. My first centerfire handgun was a PT92 and it was a great gun but I got over the "need" for a manual safety once I got accustomed to carrying and now my primary carry is a G23 converted to 9mm.

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Glad ya liked it, thanks 4 watching

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Good point

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

I love it, had it for a few years now and its been a great gun

[@troyl8837]

its nice to see the different styles compared to each other,great job.

[@ThePandemic101]

You said you'd be caught off guard an that's why you want a double action instead of a safety. BUT, if you're caught off guard you probably forget about the heavier trigger pull, and your first shot will completely miss giving the target the chance to retaliate. Whereas if you had just a safety turned on that wouldn't be problem.

[@babagadoush1]

This is the best differentiation on the different or common set configurations. Thanks for the info!

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

But that implies that a misplaced shot is worse than no shot at all. I'd rather have bad shot placement and run the chance that the other guy is then caught off guard when he realizes that I have a gun and am shooting at him, than pulling a gun and having nothing happen. Never mind the fact that in that situation your not going to know or feel the difference between a 5 lb trigger pull and a 12 lb trigger pull

[@javieriribe8699]

EXCELLENT VIDEO. Just what I was looking for

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Thanks

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Well I just hope some of those people find the stuff useful, thanks 4 watching

[@jessepearson557]

Excellent summary thank you!

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Glad ya liked it

[@BigFun4Life]

Great video matt,for carry I like no safety.

[@getsomeanthrax]

good to se a vid made by someone who knows what they're talking about..definitely learned something new today.Thank you

[@Pkarchpray16]

along with good training, and teaching.

[@deltaboy2011]

On the Beretta, any chance of accidentally decocking your weapon when you push down the manual safety just prior to firing?

[@Surreal6969]

I think it's a matter of perference. Today, people are not living in the wild west days were u have to draw a weapon and begin to fire, unless u are in law enforcement or business owner. But when a ordinary person pull that weapon out that alone will send signal to that intruder . But anyway, love ur videos.

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Yeah all the safeties are why I'm not a fan of Ruger semiauto pistols

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

I tend to agree

[@depoeslew1]

Thanks Matt, I am with you, anything that would slow me down is not neccesary!

[@shuumai]

Glock's trigger safety is only a drop safety to prevent momentum from moving the trigger. Just about anything that will directly move the trigger will also deactivate the trigger safety.

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Yeah decockers are a nice option for self defense pistols

[@eugeneshowty6454]

Good and precise and simple video , thanks

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

They don't traditionally decock, u just carefully let the hammer down on a live chamber, its not exactly safe

[@fattywithafirearm]

For personal carry firearms I don't like to carry a gun with an external safety. Its all about my personal preference. A pistol with a decocker only is okay IMO. Unless you have trained extensively to deactivate the safety. Its all about what you want to carry and train on.

[@filoIII]

Murphy will put that safety on when you're not expecting it to be on regarding a carry piece.

[@somebodysays6901]

good job. i too didn't understand the purpose of decocker. thanks.

[@JackedALF]

probably the best video I have seen on this subject

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Soon

[@justlooking2222]

Thanks for the responce I also have asked YM, he hasn't responded as of yet. Hope it was him. Thanks for your vids, I enjoy watching them

[@justlooking2222]

I found the video, Firearms freedom 2013. It was aqbout 20 mins into the talk show with the anti-gun guy when Larzul read the 2 nd amendment. thanks again

[@ficationsare6552]

Awesome and informative out the gate. Thanks

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Thanks 4 watching

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Thanks brother

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Yeah a lot of people prefer DAO and striker fired options

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Yup, thats a good way to do it

[@6.4hemidriver44]

Although I do own Glock Pistols and carry them regularly, I prefer the Sig Sauer P2xx series DA/SA trigger system.

[@crushjacko6135]

Excellent review! I agree with you bro. Thumb safeties are just an additional feature which you have to consciously remember to deactivate in a situation that you are not conscious of when it will happen. No Thumb Safeties, avoid touching the trigger if you are going to shoot. Draw, aim and fire when the surprise attacker approaches you.

[@gboyd242]

My thoughts exactly. I carry a Kahr P9 and keep an M&P45 (no safety) at the ready at home. I had a Ruger SR9 that I really liked but I sold it to a friend just because it had a safety.

[@chris2pher44]

Thanks, Took me awhile to find this video (what I was looking for). Great explanation of the difference.

[@shananagans5]

My partner is nervous about guns that don't have a manual safety. She has a baby Glock & won't carry it. I got her comfy with my 226 & the double action first shot but the Glock just makes her nervous. I convinced her not to sell it because I know she will eventually be comfy with it but she wants something in the meantime. That's kind of a common thing with new shooters. I wasn't comfy with the Glocks when they first came out but now there is no way I would buy anything with an external safety

[@Ruby_Sterling]

I worry about my HK USP double action trigger pull. It’s so heavy, I’m almost certain to pull the first shot off target.

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

I think DAO pistols without a safety are great for a CCW pistol. I do want another 1911, just not as a CCW pistol or a go to self defense pistol

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Good gun

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Not that I'm aware of, at least not on my live show, maybe on someone else's

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Exactly

[@jacob1714266]

The reason i don't like safety is because in my experience it can be a crutch to miss handing the gun, ie point the mussel at someone, "O but the safety is on", or finger on the trigger when it should not be. I would rather someone act like there is no safety and not need it

[@TheMrLasersight]

Awesome video...and great info. That's why I carry a Glock 27 always ready.

[@krtc76]

Feinsteins future gun: 1 round, single action, external-internal saftey, decocker, recocker, passcode, voice activated barrel plug safety, magazine combo lock, chamber indicator flag, biometric trigger and a firing pin keyed lock.... Then reload and repeat.

[@TheChocolateChamp]

you have some good points. but how easy is it for me to pull up vids of people accidentally shooting themselves with these guns with no safeties? even while teaching a class on gun safety lol? it's so simple, when you're out the house take safety off, when you're in a safe environment put safety on. i don't know anyone with a gun and decent range time who can't take their safety off. you think all these 1911 lovers can't take a safety off before they have to shoot something?

[@Treblaine]

It's just as easy to find videos of people accidentally shooting themselves with guns that have manual-safeties. The manual-safety is only any damn good... if it's engaged. But to eliminate the risk of them accidentally forgetting to disengage the safety they train in the automatic muscle memory to disengage the safety as soon as they draw the gun. So as soon as it's out the holster it's capable of firing, so NO DAMN DIFFERENT! "you think all these 1911 lovers can't take a safety off before they have to shoot something? " Yes. They've done it enough times. OR they just make it such a routine automatic reflex to disengage the safety as a natural and inherent part of the draw, it doesn't add any safety factor. I've seen cops with 1911 pistols shoot innocent people in the neck and paralyse them because the moment they clicked the safety down the gun fired. The necessity of manual safeties is the make the gun drop-safe and resistant to impacts, poking and shuffling when inside a loose poorly fitting holster. Everything has changed now we have form fitting holsters that totally isolate the trigger along with internal drop safeties.

[@SpencerWhetstone]

@@Treblaine >>because the moment they clicked the safety down the gun fired.>because the moment they clicked the safety down they pulled the trigger

[@Treblaine]

@@SpencerWhetstone As I said, the manual safety can never help. If fundamentally fails to help when people break the golden rules of gun handling. Because you had to make it an "automatic reflex". However there is one place (and only one as far as I know) where a manual safety really adds a safety factor and that's when holstering the damn thing. It's a great practice in many armies to turn on a manual safety just for the process of holstering, that's their "automatic reflex" to put the safety on before they holster and turn the safety OFF once the pistol is holstered. This is a really great combination, even when soldiers and marines are tired, cold, stressed and shot at, they fall back on learned reflexes. Except one problem with that is many have a manual safety that you can't turn off once holstered. There's no need for the safety to stay on when it's in the holster.

[@julia-6195]

@@Treblaine If you have a hammer fired DA/SA pistol and put your thumb on the hammer when you holster, you won't have a problem with an AD because you'll be aware of anything getting snagged on the trigger. Same with a striker fire with an exposed striker indicator like the Walther PPS.

[@GunznGear]

Man... First posting another capacity vid, and now this... I accept your challenge!!! LOL

[@amacro11]

I agree I'm a fan of the 1911 school and train using that technique - I've tried both glocks and Sig's just shoot the 1911 better. Feels better in my hand - a matter of preference - good video I do agree with your points.

[@shananagans5]

lol I agree but I have seen lots of new shooters that want a safety. I am going through that with my partner right now. She wants something with a safety. I got her to the point where she is ok with a DA but if she was just going out to buy something she would buy something with an additional external safety. I hate to say it but there is probably a pretty good market for manual safeties.

[@brandonbeard8488]

I'm a big fan of decockers, my Ruger P95 was a decocker and my sig SP2022 is the same way. Nothing against the others it's just what I like.

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

I've had more 1911 pistols than any other design but sold my last one about a year ago

[@ASEmastermechanic]

Wonderful review. You are very skilled, like the fast pace, straight to the point. Your an excellent presenter. I hate those videos that are 50 minutes to explain a 2 minute point. Most folks watch tons of videos in on sitting. I have clicked off on those long ass videos.

[@joelwateres]

I was disappointed you did not mention the brand or models other than that as usual you are are great educator

[@SnkyCyanTurtle]

Great vid but for beginners it's always best to build your way up to putting one in the pipe. So then you could build that confidence and eliminate the excessive fear of popping one off accidentally. That's just my opinion though. God Bless.

[@JasonVladimir]

Good show,thanks for sharing!

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Yeah those types of pistols are very hard to accidently pull the trigger

[@MatteoSixTwentySeven]

Great video Matt as usual.

[@joebananas4838]

Please do a video on how to full decock CZ 75b and CZ 75 SP01 safely. Thanks

[@nedhead1003]

joe bananas I have a cz 75 spo1 tactical. Decocker is the safety. If you can't handle the da trigger on fist shot...dont carry it. It's a great pistol. Good choice bro, AND USE THE DECOCKER!!!!!.

[@Z0mb3hHunt3r]

I hate safeties too, and I made the mistake of buying a new Ruger SR40, admittedly, over a gently used Glock 21 Gen 3, (Now I have to buy 9mm, .40, and .45) I totally shit on my standardization philosophy. Every time I pick up the Ruger it insults my intelligence, I purchased it as a open carry firearm, I do not carry it with the safety on, I hate the loaded chamber indicator, and the magazine disconnect. Hell, I hate every single safety device on it. It's a sweet shooter though, I want the 21=/

[@Theshadowbl17z]

you earned a subscriber with this video

[@UlookinMe]

*Watches video with a CZ75 SA cocked,locked,safety on. Good video bro, Keep it up.

[@rickpadgett405]

good job,good info,direct and to the point

[@EDC_USA]

Good video I will share for all my new friends that purchased hand guns! Thank you!

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Thanks bro

[@christopherallen3353]

Excellent info posted here! Thanks for posting!

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Yeah its a good way to show someone how safe it is to carry these pistols

[@uscray]

all these guns have different manuals of arms, and you must train with them. a 1911 is fine, but has a very specific manual of arms that you must practice with under stress. that's also why i dont prefer holsters with retention straps for concealed carry. just one more thing you have to remember before drawing and firing your weapon.

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Glad ya liked the vid, thanks 4 the sub

[@NeverEnuffAmmo]

Thats the best safety of all

[@ristin59]

Excellent video.

[@Z0mb3hHunt3r]

Did not know you owned a 17, How do you like it? I purchased a Gen 4 17, wanted a Gen or 4 19 but could not find one at all. I'm still not sure if I like the 17, but I know Glock magazines are, in my opinion, the Best ever, super high quality and well thought out.

[@systrex]

It's a good gun. I've had a couple of them for years now and they've been great.

[@djtns]

Wow, just a fantastic video. Extremely informative without being condescending to noobs. So many "experts" on KZbin have opinions and beliefs that get worked into each of their videos. That's fine, I get it, its their video. It just gets old when you are just looking for information. When I am looking for information on a certain gun, and I click on a video about that gun, I don't want or need to hear about how much someone thinks that safeties are for pussies. Thank you for all of the great info, previous to seeing this video I was big on only buying guns that had safeties...but you present strong points on why a decocker makes more sense but retains a solid level of safety. Thanks!!! cant wait to see more from you.

[@johnyoungs7453]

There's also a big difference in "decockers", as well. There are videos online telling people how, for example, to deactivate the decocker on their Beretta PX4 Storm pistol..! Yes, it'll still "decock" when you push the lever down, but if you've "fixed" it so that it pops back up when you release it, the gun can fire automatically after that. The decocker on Beretta handguns IS "a safety" - as the gun comes from the factory. Deactivate the manual return aspect of the lever - guess what..?? You've now essentially turned your Beretta into "a Glock"...!! Removing or deactivating a safety - even something like the grip safety on a 1911 pistol is stupid..!! Food for thought..!! I've been carrying concealed since 1978 (do the math..!) and I know what I'm talking about..!