Sail Life - Osmosis treatment, West System 422 Barrier Coat - episode 5 of 5

[@Martin-yl5zb]

@WestSystem Consider hiring this guy for making your instructional videos. This is very good content.

[@gbowne1]

not a half bad idea. :) definiely great content

[@justDIY]

That hull looks like it's worth at least two thumbs up. Too bad Google will only let me give you one.

[@BetterthanitwasNetsailing]

Aww, Mads, I have been away from the You Tubes for so long I forgotten how amazing your videos are. Just taking a minute out from my day to say "You Rock!" and, if it is of any interest, our 3 layers of epoxy and 422 on Kasandra show absolutely no return of the blisters, two years on.

[@aurigo_tech]

How easy you take those massive amounts of work is astonishing. And you do it so consistent and regular - every week. This is the true hero-ism of this project.

[@edrussell7960]

Athena looks good with her new bottom all refreshed. Can't wait to see her copper pants on. Mads, you are a dedicated, motivated fellow. To put out these vlogs every week while working on the boat and holding down a full time job is incredible. And the attention to detail is second to none.

[@H0l1YVV00D]

I just binge watch every episode from the start. It took about a week and a half and now I am caught up. The boat is coming along great and I can’t wait until we get to see it in the water. Ugh I just realized I have to wait until next week for the next video.

[@np939427a]

I was expecting the cat to be stuck to one side of the hull in the morning when mads came in, like that wallpaper paste advert :)

[@stevethompson6867]

What a fabulous job you have done. Please don't apologize for the yammering on, your reasons and explanations behind everything you do is one of the best bits about your channel. I am an addict, keep it up mate it's great.

[@Floridificator]

The ONLY channel on The Tubes where one can encounter the the terms "sanding extravaganza", "pretty dang spiffy" and "glorious glorious sanding". Oh! Next meeting of Sanders Anonymous in a couple weeks, Labor Day weekend in the US...

[@red-hat-mike]

Wow, somehow KZbin unsubscribe me to your channel .... 2 weeks ago. But withdrawal symptoms brought me back to your excellent channel.

[@dugclrk]

Oooo, I cringed when you opened the box of 3M pads. May want to double check and make sure they're not too coarse. Just getting caught up on your videos of the Athena refit. My Gawd man, I would have lit fire to her by now. Surly she didn't wasn't designed this way and some of these little gems are modifications made during her lifetime that have gone bad. I know you have to really enjoy doing the work on her otherwise you could have gotten a 2nd job and bought a new boat. I'm truly impressed with your patients and attention to detail. Athena will be the loveliest, most sea worthy, and most modified Warrior ever to sail. I've really enjoyed the videos so far and plan to watch till the end. At some point I'm sure she'll get back in the water. Fair winds.

[@jimwatson2629]

A beautiful compromise... Was I the only one who noticed that Mads has compromised in this latest video? The rapid box opening was completed with scissors rather than his characteristic folding knife. Ava you are having an effect on him! Mads, your videos are awesome and I know you realise how closely people watch them! Keep up the good work.

[@daleyurk4369]

Mads, I have to confess I've been screaming at the monitor to say "put it in the water!!!". After seeing the amazing result from the barrier coat and the satisfaction and sense of security it provides, I understand. Fantastic job. Still can't wait to see her in the salt water, but when it's there, all of this will be so worth it.

[@jimanderson2518]

Hey guys....I'm sure West systems support might have made that recommendation on the sanding pads. If you know Mads like I do he has definatley consulted on that issue . But I love to see all the passion we have for Mads ...its like we all have a vested interest😁 In fact I think we should start planning a splash party for Athena🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩😏😏😏😏

[@jerryf609]

It's nice to see the finish line around the corner after all the osmosis work.

[@jeremiahrathbun2116]

With all of the sailing channels I have subscribed to, there are only three or four that I truly look forward to each week. Your Vlogs are most definitely in this group. Following your journey has been inspiring, to say the least. Your dedication and attention to detail is stellar. Your insistence on fixing absolutely every little detail that you find wrong is a true indicator of your character. And, the fact that you are constantly researching, learning, and asking questions is really paying off! Athena is really coming together beautifully. Keep up the great work! And, for the record, you have well surpassed "Pretty Dang Spiffy"!

[@jeremyrainman]

It's always amazing to me how process logistics really make the difference on how well a task comes out in the end. I didn't mind the "rambling on" at all. All those things matter.

[@bocamax]

It's amazing how you can spend months on the hull and you only see incremental visual changes. Then in one day, you add a barrier coat and everything looks 100 times better. Such is life of the DIYer. Great video.

[@scubadiver1000]

Wow, Athena looks pretty darn spiffy with that new undercoating! excellent job Mads!

[@PhillipBolan123]

Once again Mads you have produced a really informative episode. All I need to do now is to buy an old boat, rewatch all your videos and put what you have taught me into practice! Keep up the good work.

[@haroldgjr]

Since you are the dedicated diy’r, I suppose you don’t have the time I (retired, 72) do. I watch many different sailing channels and you might appreciate hearing how often Mads and Athena come up in comments. You are a star sir! Appreciated for the quality of the work you do, acceptance of mountains of work and doing that work to perfection. That’s how famous you are. Now if all of us would just tell one other person, the “Saga of Mads”, your subscribers would double in short order. I would be nice to see you rewarded. For the the amazing videos you make and your dedication. It’s a joy to see your channel.

[@emilygraham3440]

It's so cool to see you getting more sponsors. The product reviews are the main reason I watch your channel...that and the glorious sanding :)

[@khyvich]

'Eleven?' Oh, Mads, you are so good at not using overused movie quotes. But, then again, that one is an eleven on any scale. Totally forgiven.

[@bradbaker3518]

It's so smooth that i saw your friends reflection. Great job.

[@Rick-fc5zr]

It's nice to hear you using the word "done" lately. Your great planning and all your hard work is going to leave you with a fantastic boat.

[@darrenphughes]

Thank goodness that's done. I'm exhausted from all that hull work!

[@DanielNovello]

Congratulations on the barrier coat being done! Thanks for sharing! Well done, Mads!

[@jamesford8315]

Yammer on all you want, you make informative, interesting videos and your style is terrific. Love the reference to "This Is Spinal Tap." Thanks for doing what you do.

[@garysouza2277]

Good job, good friends!! Two comments: WEST SYSTEM set you up nicely. That's a few thousand dollars worth of materials. They are the best by far; all I use. Second: When applying tape stick down the first 2", then walk in the direction you want to stick it to, pulling out about 8' from the roll. Line it up with your pencil line from that point (8' away) sighting down the tape and pencil line and just stick it to the hull from there. If it's off, just pull it outwards away from the hull, realign and re-stick.Then pull out another 8' without breaking it, and repeat the process. By doing it this way you avoid the waves from sticking it in 1' increments, and will end up with a much straighter line. Hope that's clear...

[@Bacoprah]

late to the party - great episode, you're lucky to have friends/minions willing to come help out with a huge job like that. cheers from PEI Canada, Bryan

[@chrissaucier121]

My favorite saying, “don’t let great get in the way of good enough!” Awesome! Love your videos

[@peterfree1878]

Mads you should be in the boat building business I think you would make millions. That is one Spiffy looking hull and the final coats haven't even gone on yet. When this boat is finished it is going to look brand spanking new you could probably sell it make a profit and buy an older larger boat and start again. I have watched your channel from the beginning and you have really become a pro in front of that camera.

[@iainlyall6475]

they would never let him. 3 yrs to get a boat off the line :-(( me? i just might say yes if they come off with this kind of quality. at least it will give me time to save up all those $'s :-))

[@thegoodspirit5288]

HOLY COW!!! That's a very shiny bottom now. AWESOME!!!

[@badams7873]

Once again a wonderful video. You have no idea how much my husband and I look forward to your videos. Thanks for sharing your journey.

[@daner.d]

been watching for years now and that bottom looks awesome, I mean the boat. cant wait for the wiring and all the technical stuff.

[@steviefordranger198]

Isn’t anyone going to mention the two AvE references? That made me chuckle. Excellent work Mads.

[@clemburke1668]

Hubba hubba indeed. That was an amazing amount of work that you may look absurdly easy. I am so jealous.

[@johnVidBozo]

Beautiful job you and the minions did. She looks great with her bottom all one consistent color. I think the discussion/yammering was perfect. You don't need to show endless footage of people rolling on a coating. That's all standard stuff. The important part is the process you went thru planning and implementing the work.

[@johninerie9251]

Sweet job - awesome and good to have some mates willing to work so hard for some snacks and a beer!

[@lisahanlin5317]

Awesome job Mars....you and Ava work well together🙂 loved the out takes

[@tombarker3608]

Volume to eleven great movie reference. Its amazing what a little bit of color can do for a project. The barrier coat really freshens up the look of Athena. You are doing a great job.

[@cnev3824]

i would watch using the discs on the sander they are a lot more abrasive than the plain scotchbrite pad and you could damage your barrier coat , the type of pad you have for the sander looks like a gasket cutter pad for removing engine gaskets

[@henrymorgan3982]

My thoughts exactly. The epoxy may be "hard", but the abrasive pad plus power sander might erase all the hard work!

[@colinbolton5986]

I would agree with Chis' comments. Having spent so much time applying the barrier coat, the last thing you want to do is remove it all by mistake!

[@ecleveland1]

I agree with you those pads are going to remove a lot of material fast. This is one time I would definitely hand sand and not risk damaging the epoxy.

[@ghismo]

Totally second that, I did ruin my primary before coppercoat doing that. You may try on a small surface before :) Anyway, this is an awesome job. Congrats !

[@andersjakobsen9906]

I was thining the same...

[@mitfreundlichengrussen1234]

Great use of "walk into focus"! Servus from good old Bavaria

[@TheGreatDigitalism]

I started watching your videos a few days ago and I’m hooked! Thanks for making these. They’re an absolute treat to watch and they’re very well edited and narrated. Good luck with the boat and keep the videos coming!

[@guy.h]

Excellent work Mads! Would not be at all surprised if West Systems start using your vids as their 'how-tos'. They are proper masterclasses in correct work. Keep it up :)

[@TAMBestBuild]

Mads. Your supplies are starting to look like a full blown fully stocked West Marine store. Are you going to give us a project budget update soon? That would be great. Keep up the fantastic work.

[@SteelDoesMyWill]

MADS! Those brown 3M pads are WAY too coarse for taking off amine blush! They will actually sand and EAT away your fresh spiffy new barrier coat! I use those to sand and polish stainless steel and other metals, those 3m pads take off a surprising amount of material VERY quickly. Granted, your orbital sander runs at a much slower RPM than my pneumatic sanders and grinders, but the coarseness of brown is still much for cured epoxy. I would HIGHLY recommend that you test first with the Red 3m pads (medium) and the Blue (fine). I believe the Red will be plenty to take off and key the surface before anti-foul.

[@CheersWarren]

Kraken I agree I've had a box of coarse hand pads for years and they never get used much and never for any fine work ....but cured epoxy is very hard so it might be just the thing .I repaired a couple of keels and it was hard work sanding between coats as it cured slow being a lead keel . I would use the pads wet as they don't clog and stay sharp longer but that's really messy so not many people do that . It will be interesting to see what he does! Cheers Warren

[@Pat.Mustard]

Yeah, don’t do it Mads. We used those to grind aluminium back when I was a welder. They’re more like gentle grinding disks than a scotch pad.

[@misterprofessor3511]

You guys are missing the point. Removing more material will necessitate adding more coats of epoxy, which means more processes and more multi-part episodes, which is really the goal here. Add 2mm, remove 1.95mm. Repeat. Never go sailing.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

In an orbital sander I think they may work quite well. On a disc sander, even at a low RPM, they would be far too much. I guess we will see.

[@andrewwilliams9419]

Yeah I have used those also and they will take off a lot of material for sure

[@phaedrusalt]

Spiffy? Damn man, she's GORGEOUS!

[@marksonter7962]

Boat looks awesome congratulations on a job well done, it brought a big smile to my face to see the pride in a job well done. Love the videos and can’t wait to see more

[@taylorsukoshi6126]

Hey Madz just a shout out to your sponsors, and I am now a proud owner of a Bosch Gex150t makes for glorious glorious sanding.

[@SV-WAKAWAKA]

Mads - it looks like a mirror, a very professional job.

[@tomspeelman4246]

Mads, she is super spiffy, double thumbs up to you and Eva!

[@tedlinzy5865]

After watching you work so hard!!! This video was so satisfying!!! Wow what a difference!

[@denniskeohane1219]

Congratulations Mads. So satisfying to watch.

[@revricky2350]

Hubba Hubba indeed! As always great, well thought out information. It is good to see some support for the product too, as a few have stated there are times that you cannot take shortcuts or buy cheap tools or applicators or it will cost you double in the end. I am interested to see if the Scotchbright disc will be too course. Your whole series has taught me a good standard if I wish to go there. That goes for each new system or components on your boats, you should be proud of what you are actually teaching by doing this.

[@greggronemeier1256]

What a great job at explaining the process. Look forward to watching your continued progress.

[@michaelfarinola5044]

Looking wow Mads! Nice to see your hard work paying off. Seeing a project afterwards is the best, the bigger the better, even something like applying antifoul seasonally is very satisfying, afterwards anyway. I am looking forward to your coppercoat argument, it seems like many who do it are not impressed with the results, but I stress "seems"

[@JasonSmith-py3gy]

Super spiffy can’t wait for the copperkote application

[@jinx0192]

Nice to have good friends! Nice job fellas!

[@jjosephbravata]

I too have used west systems 105/206/422 along with the white pigment additive. You don't have to prep your work with a coat of epoxy, you can, but your mixture with the 422 is the same thing except it has the barrier additive also. There is nothing wrong with what he is doing here. It adds more layers, that's it. you can also add the pigment additive to the mix as well which will give it more color to cover and give you a uniformed color prior to painting.

[@jamesmosley1549]

You’re amazing and full of so much knowledge. This has got to be the best ‘warrior’ sailing boat hands down. Keep up the great work. Regards from England:)

[@robertcole9391]

You forgot the Bratwurst and brochen….. LOL.. I'm sure your friends won't encounter any hunger. LOL. Athena is nearly ready. It's been a long view, but she's going to be beautiful when finished. Been a pleasure following your vlog through the hole process.

[@CheersWarren]

hi Martin , re Mads as instructional video actor, I'm sure that's why they are sponsoring him , he does a great job of making the use of their epoxy look doable for amateurs and provides good feed back on their products. I do have a problem with west system with the amine blush chemistry . It's always on your mind when using it and more modern epoxy don't have as big a problem.......... if you did not notice the amine blush early in multi-applications you could compromise the bond on all the subsequent layers. They need to improve the chemistry. I would prefer to use Vinyl ester resins that are way more chemical resistant , but they are expensive and hard to work with too as well as not easy to obtain BUT they are the industrial standard for all chemical attach situations and used in chemical plants all over the world in conditions way worse that simple underwater applications. Cheers. Warren

[@patrickbrenan1386]

Top job Mads! Looking more than spiffy, very impressive!

[@DJTerry-bd3cp]

That looks awesome, you should be very proud of what you've done so far , it's going to be a very safe and brand new Boat . Thank you for sharing your journey.

[@drwindsurf]

Wow! Good enough is right - The fairing on Athena looks fantastic. I actually like these videos (where you yammer on), I find them very interesting, I particularly like where you share your reasoning for what you are doing. Thank you for another amazing video :)

[@tizwicky]

Wow you guys did a fantastic job! The barrier coat came out perfect!

[@tonylee2589]

Madds that boats gonna look awesome when finished 😎

[@anthonyin757]

I’ve really loved this series. I’m a new sub and was initially attracted to your channel a couple weeks ago. Can’t say enough how I’ve truly appreciated the detail and considerations surrounding this work as someone who’s never owned a sailboat before and has decided he wants to buy one within a couple years. One of the issues I’m working through in my mind is whether I should focus my buying research on aluminum hulls or GRP. The type of maintenance required for either is what I’m looking into now, and most especially how intensive that maintenance might be. This series has gone a long way toward showing me what I might have to contend with every so many years with a GRP boat. Thanks!

[@mikeyc181]

Well done Mads, pretty dang spiffy indeed !

[@theladyjaiproject576]

It looks great Mads! Can't wait to see it with the copper coat. You must be really excited at this point, you are now much closer to that ever elusive launch day!!

[@LifeOnTheHulls]

Brilliant job Mads.Congratulations huge milestone.

[@RazvanAndreescu]

That looks astonishing, buddy! Great job! Been a long time lurker. Your videos make me happy.

[@TheStrikkegenser]

Spiffyness! Thats like 100 times more effort than the buildyard layed on her... Gonna be the fastest warrior on the oceans!

[@290Alenka]

Looking Good is an understatement. Eagerly awaiting next episode

[@gregoryfletcher6198]

Nice work. We note on getting nice straight line with masking tape, use the wider blue tape the width helps hold a straighter line

[@lyfandeth]

Scotchbrite pads, sheets or round, come in about 8 "grits" each a different color. So from 40 grit to over 800 grit, you pick the grit you want BY COLOR.

[@billfournier6114]

Looks pretty dang spiffy!! Thanks for sharing all the details!

[@ronaldwarren5220]

Glorious gelcoating

[@svrojax]

Well done! so happy to see all your hard work paid off your hull is looking super spiffy!

[@KnotVikings]

Congrats Mads! Well done! Cheers from us

[@barrycollins7987]

dude, fucking awesome, very informative, so good job on taking the time to explain things accurately and with care. And holy man was that satisfying to watch, good work, very pleased for you to have "finished" the hull, it's been a long time coming. Pat yourself on the back man, and thank your friends!

[@jameslovell4977]

Looks amazing!!!! Keep grinding, can't wait to see her in the water....

[@gmac3675]

Great to see all the hard work coming together Mads, and I loved the reference to Spinal Tap!

[@mysurlytrucker7510]

Best DIY boat videos around thanks mads

[@crazycarl00]

I see a "Sail Life" notification, I click like. That barrier coat is super sexy with that lighting.

[@ocxb]

Great job! And your advice on how to prepare ahead of time is absolutely awesome, I used to do restoration work on cars, there is a similarity and being ready for the big work always made the job go smooth.

[@richardayres2949]

Hi there. I’ve only just found your channel and have thoroughly enjoyed your videos which I’ve spent far to much time watching over the past week some of it while retiring the navigation instruments on board. Well done. I realise this is a little late but just a quick comment on cleats. Buy as big as possible. I’ve had my Tradewind 35 for 14 years and this year I found myself rafted up in the Isle of Scilly with two other boats, one on Esther side. My boat has reasonable sized cleats but I could definitely of done with bigger. Bearing in mind there were three boats rafted. I had two lines to the mooring buoy, a breast line to each boat on starboard and port plus I really could have done with putting some springs to the adjoining boats so the cleats were well and truly overloaded. In fact I ended up having to use my centres cleats to their fore and aft cleats. I use much small lines than our proposed 16mm despite the 8 plus ton displacement. .

[@MikeDisbury]

Brilliant Mads, she’s starting to look beautiful ;-)

[@BaronWeber1]

Mads, This is a great video for step by step DYI, excellent information and well put together. Thank You!

[@wesley9735]

I'm curious. You've done lots of great videos and I'm sure everyone that follows learns a heck of a lot and the simple pleasures of knowing that you made it all happen must be amazing. If you could do it all over, would you just pay someone els to do it for you?

[@howiedeban]

Been watching since the beginning on Obelix, and seeing it come together , is really getting me excited . Keep up the good work Mads!

[@carlpetersen3128]

I learned the hard way about rollers and barrier coats. Had to sand the whole thing off to remove the little hairs that came off the rollers and reapply. I was not pleased. Your bottom is looking excellent. 😀

[@Thanos9961]

I think it's safe to say the hull Is looking a lot more spiffy :-) Great job!

[@p0tatis]

Grattis Mads! All the hard work paid of!

[@beauturner5755]

So excited for the next episode!

[@coopw101]

Great vid brother. that boat is looking fantastic . Peace and be safe out there.

[@todddunn945]

It is too late now, but the next time you barrier coat a hull consider putting the first coat of anti-fouling on before the epoxy reaches full cure. I did mine when the epoxy had not yet given off amine blush and was still soft enough to indent with a thumb nail. That gives an extra strong bond between the barrier coat and the first coat of anti-fouling. Mine has held up very nicely for 21 years. A huge added plus was that I didn't have to do any more glorious, glorious sanding before applying anti-fouling.

[@mrjsmoss]

SPIFFY PLUS! Nice Job.

[@thordehr]

Mads, I'm assuming you know the "Onboard Lifestyle" channel? I just found it and binge watched it just like I had yours. You and he have a similar work ethic, and attention to detail, you should definitely collaborate!