Damaged Plywood Boat SOAKS for 60 DAYS - Ep 118 Sailing Luckyfish

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Enjoyed this? Watch the events that led to the damage here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/earchKmfr9yap80

[@aCycloneSteve]

Have you considered running a garden hose to the bow with a cheap pump to run continuous sea water so you can clean the chain while it's coming on board?

[@SailingLuckyfish]

yes, its on the list but meantime we use the trusty bucket :-)

[@TheCruisingKiwis]

That yacht is tough. Awesome guys!

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Aye. Tougher than the Capt and crew. You know.

[@hannekeboon1743]

Stu, great to see the bottom of Lucky Fish. You may not have been aware that she has hardwood sacrificial strips glued to the outside of the glassed plywood keels (as advised on the Plans), so that the fairly minor damage that was done to this strip was not affecting the structure of your hulls. The idea is that at some point, when this hardwood strip is all chewed up, you plane it off and glue on a new strip. I hope you did not grind back too much of the glass on the keels above the sacrificial strip. Do coat is again with epoxy and if it is thin anywhere add some glass. Do not glass the hardwood strip.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

All makes perfect sense. Those glueline laminations in the keel make a great barrier for the ply hulls. We glassed the hardwood strip :-)

[@timwoods603]

Look at Zaya go! Your a lucky man Stew. Glad to see minimal damage done to the lady. Could have been much worse. As always look forward to the next vlog, stay safe and healthy!

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Thanks Tim!

[@melissamaples5629]

My husband and I started watching you guys about two years ago and oh I'm so happy to see little baby Leo now that makes a family

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Thank you so much!! Delighted to hear that

[@kentonvelomancer3466]

Ex-Gold Coast Yachts Pro here. We ALWAYS used to check moisture content on all wood when we built cats with wood (Doung fir bleow WL and Cedar above) prior to use with one of those 2-pin wood moisture meters. I would advise all composite boat owners buy one and have it in on-board maint kit.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Yes, that tool would be nice to have for sure

[@dawnhornsby7215]

I love how patient you are with leo🤗 he is a lucky boy😎 I enjoyed the video 😍

[@billgomez06]

Good luck guys

[@yaa63]

ZAYA IS LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@inuendo0003]

very interesting Steward. I will definitely be using plenty of hardwood on the bottom may even put a strip on bottom of rudders

[@SailingLuckyfish]

good idea. check Hanneke's comments here also

[@randomtraveler3363]

Good to see it survived quite well. I have a similar repair to do to PW when I get back to her. She tapped the ground when being swung into the water by crane last year. She's been out of the water drying in Tunisia for the last 11 months. Should be an easy fix once I get there, I'm still waiting for the travel restrictions to be more favourable.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Godspeed!

[@randomtraveler3363]

@@SailingLuckyfish At this point I'll take anybody's help to get things aligned so I can get back there in September..... :-)

[@hannekeboon1743]

Another comment about the rudder lashings. The gluing in of them is not to stop water ingress, it is to stop the rudder getting out of line with the sternpost, which will happen under strong weather pressures. I have seen it happen to a number of other Wharram's that have not fixed these lashings. In your case that may not yet have happened as you have a pintle at the top of the rudder, which is not designed to be there as it has a different pivot than the rolling lashings and in fact causes unwanted stresses. I could not see, but is there a pin at the bottom of the rudder as well? The rudder lashings roll when the rudder is turned moving the axis of the rudder sideways. The pintle keeps the axis central, so the two movements fight each other. We fill the holes of the lashings with sikaflex, which is easier to remove that epoxy. However you normally don't need to remove the rudders at all and the lashings last for many, many years.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Great to hear that, makes perfect sense. Luckyfish does not have a pintle at the foot of the blade so maybe that is why we dont notice the "conflict" between the pintle (simple axial point) and the gudgeon lashings which are like shoe-laces and roll rather than pivot. The difference in the two movements is very slight??

[@DowneastThunderCreations]

I'm happy the damage you discovered was minimal and nothing major. I think this will add to your confidence in the structural integrity of the hull. It seems whomever built the boat paid attention to detail and quality of construction.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Spot On. She is a great build equal or better than professional?

[@seanmorris]

Any thoughts about adding a sacrificial wooden section running the length of the keel/skegs and rudders?. (Or it's fine as it is and just avoid running it aground in future)

[@tomharrell1954]

Great video proud papa! You are a very lucky sailor! It did not look harmed at all. I would let dry a bit a glass that baby right back up! Put some serious fiberglass on that keel. Here’s to you! Hope you are always that lucky!!!

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Thanks 👍 We hope so Too.

[@okoxacapoko7610]

Nogoo shuren araltai gazar baigaa yomuu😱😱👍🏼👍🏼

[@udojunge6595]

Hi Stuart, I glad as well to see Lucky Fish in such a relatively good condition. Myself I'm thinking about getting a Wharram Cat as well. After seeing what happened, I will apply a single layer of 2mm stainless steel sheetmetal underneath my keels and rudders. Well, it's not genuine Wharram style, but with such a reinforcement there would probably be only some damage of the copper coat. And touching the ground is something nobody likes to risk, BUT you know Murphies Law......if shit MAY happen it surely WILL happen one day. I wish you and your family all the good luck you need now, and I hope that Coronaia will find an end soon.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Thanks very much Udo and yes to the keel, skeg and rudder caps. Maybe look at a piece of channel or bar and use 5200 or similar adhesive instead of screws. If oyu have to use fastenings use machine screws and screw them into epoxy. Also, Id go for 3mm for a little more stiffness

[@inuendo0003]

@@SailingLuckyfish i heard not to have exposed screws into hull

[@SailingLuckyfish]

@@inuendo0003absolutely

[@TheRIBLING]

Hi Stuart I'm really amazed be how much care and attention you give Luckyfish . My question is .When you say you teach sailing do you have a sailing school ?

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Have an instructors endorsement on YM Offshore and unofficially try to teach and share as much as possible.

[@TheRIBLING]

@@SailingLuckyfish Okay thank you . I thought you ran an "on the go" sailing school which I'm not sure is even possible but would be nice .

[@MiQBohlin]

Aye m8’s, I agree on your way of treating the rudder hinge ropes. Filling it with epoxy can't make for flexibility or ease of demounting/mounting them. The design is so extraordinary clever in the first place.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Totally!

[@jaybird4915]

That other vessel was stuck between a rock and a hard place. I still think he made the right call especially if solo sailing. Glad your damage is minimal. That is a nice, well built boat you have

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Yeah, he did not have any choice but to put in. Crew was ready to leave too and wanted a flight back to France asap

[@pgr8626]

Great Video! Glad damage isn't to bad.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Me too!

[@billhanna8838]

Better than the old car boxes we used for our Spencer 30 years ago , use to rot at the sign of rain ha . Fair winds

[@malcolmmcleod9784]

Understand the Wahram is a serious ocean going vessel and it's tottaly a testament to virtues of strring simplicity at it's max something blind Freddy could essentially repair any where safe travels travels

[@SailingLuckyfish]

too true!

[@bostonpaul7065]

She looks good underneath, considering. Heavier built than I'd expected for a pleasure boat, and thank goodness for that! The big question, though, is who had to change that diaper?

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Haha.... guess and you would be right

[@ericvialla2314]

👍😊👌 always enjoyable

[@waughthogwaugh3078]

So glad you have got off relatively lightly. Thanks for sharing so much detail and insight on this. Did Dan include a hardwood wormshoe? Also if the rudder was 4" shorter, would it have kept it out of trouble? Happy to see your whanau all well.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Yes, plenty of wormshoe, all those laminates that make the keel are just that. plus a single laminate on the skeg. but, none on the rudders which clearly would be a good and simple addition. also check Hannekes comments here, cheers. Whanau all doing fine bro

[@robertcole9391]

Hope no rains for the next month. A lucky day for lucky fish once again. With a descent breeze, you could be back in the water in 3 weeks. Feel bad for the other traveler. You would think they would have some compassion for emergencies. Loss of an engine is critical. And they did make the right choice to return. Especially with all the issues right now in the Gulf of Mexico. Not a good time to complete a trip on sail alone.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

agree. tough situation for all parties involved... treatment of sailors all around the world has been quite an eye opener since the virus began

[@robertcole9391]

@@SailingLuckyfish It has earned a new name here. We call it a 'Plandemic'. Because it's following an obscure pattern. Seems like the weaker it gets, the more restrictions are enforced. Even here in the US. Areas that had virtually no cases, are requiring people wear a mask at all times inside city limits. Leaves many scratching their heads as to why or consideration of a few city council members need to visit the back side of a wood shed for reeducation. LOL. The whole damn thing is defying logic and common sense. But that is of a political nature and we all enjoy the distraction of the whole mess via the exploits of lucky fish! Thanks Stew, you and the crew stay safe. See ya next week.

[@ralphvandereb66]

@@robertcole9391 its all about the geopolitical problem that is trump. plandemic indeed. they want him removed at all cost.

[@robertcole9391]

@@ralphvandereb66 Don't make it political. I agree it is a geopolitical problem. But Trump isn't the problem.

[@ralphvandereb66]

@@robertcole9391 i totally agree with you, i do believe you made it political calling it a plandemic which i also agree with you, and yes you are right we should keep the political off this thread.

[@bryanbadger6841]

G'day Luckyfish. She doesn't look too bad underneath does she.? In a previous life i used to own a Hartley Golden Cowrie in ferrocement. So I didn't get to see problems like yours. Even weighing in at 15 tonnes, it still had a hull speed of 7.5 knots. But i digress. Again great content. Take care...stay safe..and one day eventually we'll see you down here in Nz.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Hartley was part of the boom in home building. He designed some very efficient boats in the day...

[@bryanbadger6841]

@@SailingLuckyfish also Stuart, Richard Hartley got the weight, boat length, sail area formula just right for ferrocement boats. Anyway again i have to say, I love the content of your vlogs. Stay safe.

[@couchpotato321]

Awesome video!

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Thanks! Thinking of you guys today... situation normal?

[@couchpotato321]

@@SailingLuckyfish As normal as can be in today's world. Nothing too exciting. We should chat on the phone soon and catch up..

[@ralphvandereb66]

very cool to see so little damage, Leo is onto using all the controls even pre talking (RAH !!) Zaya amazing best first mate ever. good news about lucky fish, stay safe and happy.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

RAH!

[@toms4123]

I am no expert but I also would not fill the rope holes in the rudder with epoxy - doing that I would expect the rope to fail at the point where the epoxy filled rope would stop...

[@SailingLuckyfish]

I agree

[@ralphvandereb66]

@@SailingLuckyfish me too ))

[@simonwilson1211]

Laura Deckers record might get broken if Leo carries on at this rate?

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Laura Dekker is a very remarkable person! much respect

[@googlemate2587]

Hi Stuart how to fix your chipped rudder ? Fairing compound or Fiber glass ? Thanks for your reply Cheers

[@SailingLuckyfish]

epoxy filler and a layer of glass

[@aldoacitelli]

You look like Mr. Gromit.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Ha. Some folks think I'm the voice of Wallace. Gromit never spoke but I am flattered I look like him. WOOF!

[@brianboys9015]

Hay Leo Cool parents.

[@grantschuhmacher7766]

Have you taught Leo to dogpaddle? When my daughter was 3 months old her mother taught her to dogpaddle because her parents had a pool. There was no way she would drown once she learned.

[@lanselithgow5865]

Interesting post. Great respect for Wharram n his boat designs. What length, model is Luckyfish?

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Good to hear. She's a Tiki 38

[@lanselithgow5865]

@@SailingLuckyfish Tks. Godspeed. Years ago l read his autobiography - Two women , two hulls/boats(? ) I grew up with large , seagoing outriggers in SE PapuaNewginea.., n reading about magnificet islander multis travelling all over the pacific. Would love to get a copy of that book. Have you read it?

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Yes, I have a hardcover copy I bought second hand on amazon. You can also buy new reprints (in paperback with lots more pictures and less cost) from here www.wharram.com/shop/books/two-girls-two-catamarans Your experiences in PNG sound just amazing. I was there for a year in the mountains behind Safia and thoroughly enjoyed every minute. Never a dull moment. Do you miss PNG? I do.

[@clayfarnet970]

Another great and informative vlog. I have a question, when one partner causes damages like that, is he responsible for all of the cost involved or is it divided equally amongst the partners? Captain Leo Sure is cute. 👍👍👍

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Firstly, there's a little sick irony that the first of the co-owners to damage the boat is me and, it happened at the moment we all formed the syndicate. So this is a bit of a special circumstance. Normally we'd make an insurance claim, pay the deductible /excess and get it fixed. In this case that didnt seem right so I covered the costs of haulout and repair.

[@ralphvandereb66]

@@SailingLuckyfish nice one stew, yes was a special situation, no pain no gain. we live and learn and what doesnt kill us makes us stronger.

[@brendanaengenheister5351]

Why don't these boats have a metal rubbing strake along the bottom? That way a minor grounding would not effect the structure of the boat only the sacrificial strake.

[@hannekeboon1743]

The keels of Lucky Fish have in fact a hardwood sacrificial strip glued on the bottom of the keel on the outside of the hull glassing. Stu need not have worried about the damage to that hardwood as the water cannot get into the plywood keel. A hardwood strip is probably better than a steel strip as that will need to be screwed into the plywood keel and that creates entry holes for water.

[@SailingLuckyfish]

@Hanneke Boon - this is great to know. I was aware of the design as I checked the drawings but you know... this is one of the great disadvantages of not having built the boat myself. I cannot be sure of exactly how things were done. Fortunately the Wharram designs are so easy to inspect, there are very few areas hidden places behind linings and mouldings and so on, and, Dan did do a great job following the plans where it matters most. Thanks very much for explaining things clearer than anybody could! Stew

[@inuendo0003]

ps ever thought of installing a deckwash for anor chain

[@rob56gru]

Why not fix a metal sheet band on those part of the hull that are exposed to wear when you run aground. Traditional ling keelers used to do that for the same reason

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Good suggestion. Plenty of comment here on same solution. Thankyou

[@javierbetancourt9388]

💯

[@JamesBond-xq3tw]

A could you grease rudder attach rope before & after fitment ?

[@SailingLuckyfish]

Use, that would work, or candle wax maybe less mess?

[@Mr.Alia63]

You need to fix a net all around the boat for the boy not to fall in the sea 🌊

[@ralphvandereb66]

he is always on a leash and always attended by his mum, one person always has an eye on him..

[@Mr.Alia63]

Ralph van der Eb this is great 👍 but don’t leave things to chances all the best

[@ralphvandereb66]

@@Mr.Alia63 i have been with zaya and leo, she definitey doesnt, leave anything to chance, dont forget she is mongolian and trust me they have a different sense of responsibility with their kids, maybe its the nomadic horse backed lifestyle they so master. but they are not your typical western or eastern mum. very special breed of people. we could all learn a lot from the mongolian culture, but i understand your concern its normal. all the best

[@edwardwerthner7717]

What happened to u huys

[@aadghim]

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