Wait! Don't be so quick to fill a deep bilge. This is a great reservoir for the water you will invariably collect. You can also use this space to provide multiple bilge pumps, water alarms, etc. Common practice is to mount your bilge devices on a stainless steel bracket which you can lower into the bilge. Primary bilge pump on the bottom, next up a high water alarm, followed by an emergency dewatering (BIG) bilge pump, etc. I can send pics if interested. Think it over before committing.
@locutus84965 жыл бұрын
+1 on keeping the deep bilge. Another blogger (I think it was S/V Far Reach, IIRC) used the deepest part of the bilge on his Cape Dory 36 as a sump for his shower, and tied it in to his manual Whale pump for controlled pumpout. He put a custom 5 gallon tank there. With your Warrior 38's even deeper bilge you could take a longer shower or several shorter showers before needing to pump out your sump.
@fredpinczuk73525 жыл бұрын
That's how my Ericson was layout. Stainless steel flat bar with the bilge pump, sensor and screen. I could simply pull up the bar and clean and inspect, and then drop it back in. Worked really well.
@gregoryyount69075 жыл бұрын
@@Kevinwatches I am a mechanical engineer, but I didn't invent this. Someone suggested it to me. I have a pic of my arrangement, but don't see how to post it.
@martinsachs38375 жыл бұрын
on top of that: grp below the waterline isnt 100% watertight. usually this tiny amounts just evaporate, but if foam filled it might very well end like the foam behind the old fridge.... I personally would just seal the deep bilge with some grp and put an inspection hatch in.
@jeremyrainman5 жыл бұрын
Deep bilges also have the advantage of, if they do have some water in them, increasing the effective counterweight of the boat and making it more stable in the water. Consider one counter-argument, however. The deeper the bilge, the more likely the boat is going to have a higher humidity inside the boat from the availability of interior water. Interior humidity is a contributing factor to blister formation (not the only one, mind you), and Mads first problem with this boat was blisters.
@chuckhoulihan11515 жыл бұрын
Do not fill in the bilge. We have a 39’ blue water vessel with a very deep bilge. We attach our multiple bilge pumps and float switches on pieces of pvc pipe with zip ties. This allows us to remove the pumps etc from the bilge easily. Having a deep bilge is an asset when ever you get a little water inside it will collect there. Filling in that area defeats the purpose of a deep bilge. Please rethink this. Cheers Chuck
@WaterFaucet245 жыл бұрын
So glad those stir-sticks were double boxed with extra padding...otherwise, those fragile sticks would have shattered !
@sunwolf885 жыл бұрын
lol....
@idgafnation86204 жыл бұрын
That rock drop made me laugh a little too loud unexpectedly and now my dog is giving me the stink eye LOFL!!! Keep up the great work brother.! I'm trying my best to catch up to current day and should get there sooner than later!
@williamdraper69165 жыл бұрын
Athena is looking pretty spiffy Mads
@darrylmcleman64564 жыл бұрын
The piping bag is a great idea for distributing the thickened epoxy. That from a retired baker_pastry chef.I just finished rot repairing an 18.5 ft motorboat project .Handy metheod.CHEERS from Canada!!!
@njp1015 жыл бұрын
Impressive work on the structural members Mads.
@tomlane41025 жыл бұрын
Leave the bilge deep with a Garboard plug to make it easy to clean and flush when on the hard. If you do take on some water a deep bilge gives it someplace to go while you sort things out. The double radius is beautiful work Tom
@davidsvdelu78015 жыл бұрын
I agree don't fill the bilge, many benefits as mentioned by others. I wish I had one on my boat. I've watched your videos from the start and look forward to the day you sail away. 👍👍
@1240enzo5 жыл бұрын
Well done Mads, the first bit of construction of the new saloon. That’s a pretty dang spiffy milestone in itself 👍😁!
@davidcoleman48005 жыл бұрын
Really exciting to see the settee and the first indication of a livable space returning to Athena. The first sign of how great, and better built she is going to be when done.
@thepigwillfly58695 жыл бұрын
Excellent work on the settee! Really looks good with the double radius.
@SailLife5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really like them too :) It's one of those projects that every time I look at it I can't help but smile :)
@BenVonHandorf5 жыл бұрын
@Lancashirelad In this case it's actually "Kerfing". The material removed by a saw blade is called the "kerf". Using that space to achieve the curve is "kerfing". It's a really neat approach but a word I've never seen used outside of woodworking/metalworking so it's a bit unusual.
@freerangewhanau5 жыл бұрын
That is a well deserved vacation!
@Kun21125 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of Sunday: Mads has a new video up. As always, greatly enjoyed it and your attention to detail is amazing!
@franktartan68085 жыл бұрын
Mads, please dont fill that void with foam. Yes glass over it, but filling with foam serves little purpose and the same thing as before could happen. I could see having a hose to reach the bottom pass thru the plug you will glass in. That way you can check for water. You do great work so I am reluctant to comment. I totally agree with the way you reinforced the structural grid! I am a sailor and have done quite a bit of refitting and epoxy work. Also I am a mechanical engineer....Thanks for another great video and some very high quality work. I will continue to be a patron for every video.
@TheEphemeris5 жыл бұрын
whatever music you use for the timelapse reminded me immensely of fall. I have no idea why, but those sounds just brought back the feeling of fall weather and holy cow I can not wait for fall!
@SootHead5 жыл бұрын
I see you have standardized the glorious sanding music.
@sonnylange30515 жыл бұрын
Athena is coming along beautifully! Nice to see you are doing things correctly, better than some builders.
@mdwightj5 жыл бұрын
Growing up my Father's hobby was wood working I loved those wooden folding rulers... When I was young I remember playing with them, seeing what shapes i could make with them... It didn't take a lot to entertain a kid in the 60's... I love your channel, can't wait to see you and Ava sail away!
@bill4nier5 жыл бұрын
Mads, you are a very talented guy when it comings to this refit. You really need to consider renaming your boat "Spiffy". Because, well it will be one spiffy sailing vessel. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍👍👍👍😊⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵
@PerhapsMyDad5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps "Pretty Dang Spiffy", then your radio calls go out as 'This is Pretty Dang Spiffy'.
@Garryck-15 жыл бұрын
@@mwatkins2464 - Only if it's not done correctly.. there actually is a proper process and series of rituals/ceremonies that must be performed, all in the correct order. www.boatnames.com.au/boat-naming-renaming-ceremony.htm#Renamingceremony
@JeffreyHarthSailing Жыл бұрын
Nice work on the settee! I am doing a similar refit on my 1979 Hunter Cherubini 37. I moistened the exterior surface of the plywood to reduce the chances of splintering and filled my kerfs with thickened epoxy before I bent the plywood for more strength.
@mattcox55405 жыл бұрын
10 out of 10 on the spiffiness scale for those kerfed corners. Teal would be proud! ⛵
@mdwightj5 жыл бұрын
I think Mads and Teal have to meet at some point.
@drwindsurf5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work on that sittee Mads :)
@bastian99455 жыл бұрын
It's just impressive the amount of work the amount of excitement(well not when fibreglass work is on the list) and attention to detail you put into this. And all of this is rewarded with a really beautiful result you seriously do an amazing job.
@Ken-jh4bt5 жыл бұрын
I was just a few hours late opening this episode and it already has over 21,000 views. Well done!
@ABeriault5 жыл бұрын
You are super fun to follow....surely the best on KZbin. Its almost like building our own boat....and dreaming our way to the sea! God only knows what we will do when you are finally gone sailing with Eva...lol! Cheers
@dianes48585 жыл бұрын
That settee is a thing of beauty! I am amazed at how far you’ve come since your first video! Thanks for sharing!
@corujariousa5 жыл бұрын
Tap yourself on the back. That double curved section of plywood was a professional job! :-)
@lesterduncan73825 жыл бұрын
Set a length of pipe vertically into that abyss so that it can be maintained, drop a bladder in and fill with water. The extra weight can lend to the boat being more prone to self righting. Also you can set a lot of house batteries at the top of that space with a little more planning.
@yakekaj5 жыл бұрын
Mind Blown!! I may be simple but I have never seen how to bend plywood... Looks like the work I am planning on my 24ftr has a new element to it!!
@dirtroadsailing64185 жыл бұрын
I've heard that Andy from Boatworks Today has been calling you asking for advice on fiberglass work!
@jerryf6095 жыл бұрын
@@mwatkins2464, joke.
@asraharrison5 жыл бұрын
LOL. Mads could get a PhD in fiberglass repair at this point. Between Mads and Andy, there should be few project left for questions.
@vaneboating49495 жыл бұрын
😄
@russellthomson55715 жыл бұрын
Mads great to see the settee. Starting to look like the insiode of a yacht again. It will be super strong with all that glass reinforcing. Good work. I know how hot it can get in a boat in summer.
@faksen135 жыл бұрын
I think deep bilge is a bonus, Hallberg Rassy for instance produce their boats in 2 halves so they get deep bilge and rubbing strike. Deep bilge would keep your underfloor storage locker's dry in excessive weather. 100+m is might a bit excessive.
@lhendrix2785 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this segment! Thanks
@mattevans-koch93535 жыл бұрын
The work on the settee is beautiful Mads. If you decide to quit building boats you should start making furniture. Your craftsmanship is amazing. Thank you for another wonderful video of sanding and glassing. You should have named this video "Rebuilding A Boat Saloon In a Sauna". Take care and have a good week ahead. My best to Jurkell and Ava.
@marklittlefield64455 жыл бұрын
I also recommend not filling in the deep bilge. On my pacific crossings (now 6 of them) we store emergency water (in plastic containers) in the bilges, We also keep the beer in there, it stays cool (not cold) but it is better than warm, and then we put in the fridge and reduce the time and energy needed to get the beer cold. I have also seen several boats make the area into a "wine cellar". Bilge pumps are great too.....
@bobstienke1785 жыл бұрын
Loved the bilge drop part! Excellent!
@twdarcy5 жыл бұрын
You are a fiberglass laying Mads Man! ;) Keep up the good work. You inspire me Mate.
@kristianp96295 жыл бұрын
When you go over the great pond, get your hands on a kreg pocket hole jig. You will love it when you do the interior 😀. As always, thx for the weekly update...
@clarisd3 жыл бұрын
An Epic thank you for yourchannel!!!! Why not use epoxy foam in that cavern of a bilge? I am just to that part and I should have merely waited, yet watching your shows I have wondered of this from the first time you opened that cavern! As well, I am in effect binge watching and this for myself is a treasured find, meaning this channel and your discoveries so far! and your solutions! I now know that when the time comes for me to purchase any vessel, I will be inspecting with a kit for looking at the hidden problems! When your moisture meter sounded off as it did some shows past, I felt it was actually more accurate than you gave it credit for! I now am looking at 3d printing of structural members and perhaps creating them out of various epoxy products, the use of wood here has proven that below the water line failure is more than possible! It is a matter of when and you have I feel solved many of these issues with what you have. I would say that from the top deck the spantions rail deck fittings are a portion of those leaks. Well sorry I shall now go see your solutions!
@clarisd3 жыл бұрын
Well great minds do think alike as I have now finished the show! lolol
@rhirwin105 жыл бұрын
LIKE! In particular the sound method for determining the depth of the bilge. I also now understand the true meaning of "back to the grind"
@billkaroly5 жыл бұрын
Awesome progress!
@SailingWithVampires5 жыл бұрын
Looks like you just made a good spot for a fire extinguisher! Glad that wood worked out for you Mads! Great job!
@davidleighton17635 жыл бұрын
Can't beat a deep bilge.
@owiela5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap Mads! This is getting exciting! Monday morning is always a good time!
@robda71954 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this in July of 2020 you have dragged athina kicking and screaming so far very spiffy mads 👍
@dougf949125 жыл бұрын
In addition to the usual great content, I love the 'Austin Powers' style music you use during the time-lapse at 16 minutes in! 8-)
@nic_the_aged_woodworker5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree with you, "pretty dang spiffy". That the only way to describe your settee structure.
@jeremyjamison88325 жыл бұрын
Tried bending a test piece of plywood like you showed in this video. I need a little more practice but thank you teaching me something! Athena is really starting to come together!
@uniqueoutcome65895 жыл бұрын
You sir, are the master of spiffiosity.
@corruption9025 жыл бұрын
It's looking awesome! You did the impossible and managed to complete the glass work in under your estimated time!
@geoffgelow42415 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion. I would put a grid or mesh over your keel, so you don't lose anything down there.
@normanboyes49835 жыл бұрын
Nice work.😀👍⛵️
@tombarker36085 жыл бұрын
Of course I enjoy the videos its my favorite Sunday channel. Should the abyss be filled with something that doesn't absorb water? Take a look at Gone With the Wynn s/v today. Salty water and salty air has really taken a tole on their boat. Things are corroding you may want to research fittings when putting in the mechanicals. Hi Ava.
@robsheridan4765 жыл бұрын
Hi Mads, How about an endoscope to check out the infernal regions of bilge? I'm curious about what's down there! Great kerfing! Rob
@782Rod5 жыл бұрын
Nice one Mads. Have a great holiday.
@bl3nd3rs5 жыл бұрын
New shirt idea, "Laying up glass, always a hoot" 1:30 haha
@dave.willard5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video as always. An idea popped in my head. Have you thought about using that bilge abyss for storage? It could hold raw lengths of stainless rod, tube, and flat stock for example. Or wooden dowels for emergency shoring. Or an emergency tiller system?
@jerryf6095 жыл бұрын
Or wine bottles wrapped to keep clean and from breaking.
@sailingeden98665 жыл бұрын
You would be a great casket maker.
@BorisFett5 жыл бұрын
Great video. You are such an inspiration !
@simonmills23755 жыл бұрын
Excellent bending plywood work Mads. That deep bilge looks like a great place to fit your bilge pump. Shallow bilges let the bilge water go up the interior when on a tack, deep bilge sumps gives a good place for water to collect. Incidentally what holds your keel on. Do you have keel bolts? Great vid
@dustanbalkcom5 жыл бұрын
Your perseverance is so inspiring. Thank you for the videos!
@mk1photography625 жыл бұрын
Loved the bending of that ply Madds
@robertfakler85645 жыл бұрын
Glad your plywood bend went well. Ideally, it would be best to steam the wood first, but wetting it would be almost as good.
@lfconley5 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure how I feel about the end of fibreglass work. Hopefully, you find something else to sand? Glorious glorious sanding!!!
@bocamax5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully there are some viewers in the LA / San Diego area that can take you out for a sail on your next trip to the States.
@manuelstarr36025 жыл бұрын
The Abyss is a great spot for your hidden gun cabinet.
@martyhandley44565 жыл бұрын
Yahoooo.......my Sunday is almost complete........can’t wait to see the progress
@petal2metal8845 жыл бұрын
Damn I love that song and damn I love the water tank section. Good job dude!
@jorgenr5 жыл бұрын
Mads: The abyss is the perfect place for a wine cellar! Build a sliding wine rack
@mortarsquad125 жыл бұрын
Bit of a bacteria trap. Maybe not advisable
@jorgenr5 жыл бұрын
adam anthoni ford I bet he'll finish the bottle once it's open
@garlandgarrett63325 жыл бұрын
Awesome progress
@WreckDiver995 жыл бұрын
In the future for bending...Soak the surface with some hot wet towels before doing the bend. Soak it good. Watch Norm Abrams (New Yankee Workshop). The episode I recommend is the one that he builds an AMAZING wine rack/tasting center.
@PMMM95 жыл бұрын
Really great. Stay cool and have a wonderful week. PS: Take your lovely lady for a scrumptious meal.
@wiks1015 жыл бұрын
Stir sticks are free here in US just walk into homedepot they will give you as many as you want
@williamdraper69165 жыл бұрын
100F. In Denmark?! Wow!
@rollinrock66965 жыл бұрын
Nice work!!
@jackiehowlett24495 жыл бұрын
You do beautiful work.
@scooterdon83655 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or would a very deep bilge prevent my pet peeve... water accumulation wide and long but too shallow to trigger pump... ie deep and narrow bilge with pump well below float triggers and empties to a far smaller volume... alarm locations easy to separate by depth...and easier to track or log flow rates if you’re the electronic data type
@JimKJeffries5 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work. All foam is not equal, closed cell for instance, is water proof because of its molecular structure, & yes if you are in single digits of water, we can call you water proof. I don't think the previous owner's idea was that bad, but rather the error in choice of what kind of foam (open cell). The closed cell foam can add incredible strength too, when sandwiched between two structual moments...keep working and dreaming. Thanks for sharing.
@stuartmcmichael52505 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual well explained and very informative
@pocketchange19515 жыл бұрын
A buffet of Sail Life projects, oh ya
@GBRmedic5 жыл бұрын
Love your work Mads!
@gregworkshop57135 жыл бұрын
hi the boat is looking good
@alloutofbubblegum81655 жыл бұрын
It's looking great Mads, I too would use audio books while driving long distances for work, the longer the better. Here's a few that you might like. Larry Coria Monster Hunter series. The expanse (now a Amazon prime show, and a really good one at that). John Ringo's through the looking Glass series. Those are just a few of the ones that i like, and those are nice long audio books. Take care and have a great day.
@urlkrueger5 жыл бұрын
I tried listening to audio books while driving long distances by myself but found that I got so absorbed by the story (Tony Hillerman) I wasn't paying proper attention to my driving so if you do listen and drive do so responsibly.
@michaelwallace8975 жыл бұрын
I wish that there was a way that I can hit that like button at least a dozen or more times for every video you put up. I truly look forward to every Sunday evening here on the east coast of the US to watch another calming and yet intriguing and soothing video of yours thank you. By the way hows that wonder puppy of yours doing.
@BigPotatoChill5 жыл бұрын
Virkelig flot arbejde! Tak for endnu et OCD fix ;)
@jerryf6095 жыл бұрын
I almost understand that.
@DollarTreeFlyer5 жыл бұрын
looking great as always Mads, My wife and I are starting a KZbin channel and can only hope its half as good as yours and your work!!!!
@aserta5 жыл бұрын
Two things i do differently. First i spritz the bend area with water, then apply heat with a thin but puffy towel with an iron. Essentially steaming bending. And two, i put thick pieces of tape on the ends of the plywood bend. They usually tend to split on you, EVEN after. Also, your router bit is getting dull. If you see burn marks on something so small, that is.
@jcf65975 жыл бұрын
Mads, another great video, but are you not worried about having access to the hull in areas that you glued and screwed the cabin sole down?
@TheGeohart5 жыл бұрын
a lot of tough work, under rugged conditions, well someone has to do it
@kempenaar325 жыл бұрын
Can you fill up the abyss with cement to a lesser depth? It can give the boat more stability, and if stuff falls into it you can still fish it out.
@sailordirk17275 жыл бұрын
I feel you Mads, 106F in Düsseldorf. That's insane. Enjoy your time in the Californ ia
@Kyldrake5 жыл бұрын
1:30 'not perfect'?? Who is this guy, Where's Mads? 😉
@tracyg8435 жыл бұрын
Please consider doing something with that deep bilge other than filling it back up with expanding foam. How about something cool, literally like an hopfenhohle or earth cooler. Except in your case it would be a water cooler. Hahaha.
@mortarsquad125 жыл бұрын
Secret beer stash
@WaterFaucet245 жыл бұрын
I would build a double sealed tube on one end. Camo the end cap. Have a place to store valuables and copies of travel documents.