Saints Row is Creatively Bankrupt

[@lendrigangames]

The game is a reddit power fantasy, featuring a criminal empire built on only ethically sourced crimes.

[@jackhazardous4008]

I like my crimes to be sustainably grass fed

[@xbigbooshx4643]

Only organic non-gmo crimes, please.

[@xthee_0nly_1x11]

God the world is gay.

[@itbesilly4544]

It wouldn't be so bad, if it wasn't so straight-laced and dry. They don't view themselves as caricatures, they're serious characters.

[@katatonikbliss]

diet soy low-fat vegan criminal empire

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Another commenter said it best, these new "Saints" are basically the same NPC assholes we'd run over for shits and giggles in the OG game.

[@jackhazardous4008]

Holy shit that is exactly it. Just listen to the NPC dialogue from 2 compared to the MCs

[@soulsearcher9620]

@@jackhazardous4008 only ever played saints row 2 and 3, I kinda hated my time with 3.

[@SirCaco]

I didn't hate 3's gameplay, but I seriously couldn't care less about the story in that game. They could've tackled plot points that the second game had left perfectly lined up, like Dex betraying the Saints and joining Ultor... but instead they wanted you to, I dunno, fight some wrestlers and become a toilet with a gun instead. It was the beginning of the end for this franchise.

[@freedantheeternal]

@@SirCaco That's the thing, there was supposed to be another game in-between 2 and 3. Old Volition employees talked about in an interview some time around when 4 came out. Among the things they mentioned, it was actually going to cover the sell-out of the Saints to Ultor, and was actually going to cover the changes in the characters (like Shaundi quitting the drugs and even getting breast implants for her TV career). Thing was it was being developed alongside what would become 3, and it got cancelled because Activision stepped in and basically went "The fuck are you idiots doing making two games at once?" And 3 was the one they decided to go all-in on in that case. And it also shows in the audio logs you find in SR4 that they do finally address a lot of the plot holes created by skipping the plot of the cancelled game.

[@SirCaco]

@@freedantheeternal That's interesting, I never knew about that. What a shame. To think we could've had a proper third game and instead we got some audio logs.

[@No-vq1iv]

I actually know someone who worked for the company that play-tested this game, according to them Volition dismissed like 90% of the feedback they got, even when it was bug-related.

[@TheMonkeyKing7235]

They wanted to end the saints career

[@TheMonkeyKing7235]

@jamesearlcash3368 deadass 💀 all my old bosses would merc these idiots. Why tf would they go away from shaundi pierce and gat like wtf

[@thientuongnguyen2564]

@jamesearlcash3368 It's even worse on the Discord where land whale mods control the very saying of "fans" and it was quite funny to see some of them literally melting down over Volition shutting down and blaming what's left of those that had not left. Even the Red Faction side wouldn't dare to engage the Saints Woke like that either.

[@matronmalice9867]

Now they're gone. God riddance. All these studios need shut down. Indie pirate or play your old systems. I have been. I try out the new crap but it's almost always boring garbage.

[@No-vq1iv]

@@matronmalice9867 I think the QA company is gone too, funny enough, but I'm not in contact with that person anymore and I don't really care to look it up. But yeah, good riddance... just wish they had released the SR2 patch before going bust.

[@Andiandru]

The saddest part about this game is that most fans said: "We don't want this. Don't go in this direction". We knew what we didn't want in SR. And they were aware, they made fun of the critics on social media, but did nothing for the game.

[@fredo3161]

That's the funniest part to me!

[@justsomegamer6719]

Gotta love how the act of throwing a grenade is now locked up behind a skill move. I hate this industry.

[@John-996]

I hate how damage sponge Enemies are the norm now really ruins combat in games.

[@jackhazardous4008]

@@John-996 who even started the trend of enemies eating headshots with arbitrary damage and healthbars? And why does every half baked game coming out feel like they tried to copy Borderlands

[@alfabutt1]

​@@jackhazardous4008 wasn't it ubisoft with the Division?

[@talimancern7724]

So is dual wielding lol.

[@John-996]

@@jackhazardous4008 Fuck Knows been Playing Maxpayne 3 again have a blast. The rag doll physics are great and you can kill people fast. Not sure why RPG games need to be built like this. RPG stands for Role playing so I do not understand Why they need to be like that. Kingdom Come had a great RPG system were you needed to train to actually get good. You can still kill some one in one shot with a bow or if they are to tough follow them home and kill them in their sleep.

[@nicks288]

Take a shot every time Capitalism or student loans are mentioned in this game

[@Mr-Clark]

The black guy with the bow tie is supposed to be a genius. A genius can’t land a job and pay off his loans? Ridiculous

[@zerosorigin8387]

You want people to get alcohol poisoning huh

[@lactate]

I don't think my liver would survive

[@DHCNetwork06]

Don't forget about Karaoke

[@tzardnickolasthelitromanov]

"Don't, it's seppukucide"

[@JArt872]

The game is so bad that it put the studio out of business! 😂

[@thientuongnguyen2564]

Surprised they didn't pull the victim card as with failed TV shows/movies and demand us fans pay the "reparation".

[@rageagaintstheNWO]

Saints Row 2 was so good, i spent hours JUST running around the city and starting mass brawls with hookers and pimps.

[@AGTInfinity]

This is actually a new low for sequels. Everything about this game is either worse or a sidestep (mostly worse). Committing every modern gaming sin along the way.

[@TexasHollowEarth]

What do you expect for a piece of timely propaganda that perfectly coincides with Brandon's student debt forgiveness fuckery on the backs of working citizens! Why has no one else noticed this?!

[@AGTInfinity]

@@TexasHollowEarth This game has been in the works for a long time. If anything Brandon is capitalizing off the games release.

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

@@TexasHollowEarth I mean Bidons student lown forgiveness is pretty good for me lmao

[@ChuckSneedly]

It doesn't have microtransactions though? (Oh god, oh fuck please don't let it ALSO have microtransactions)

[@TexasHollowEarth]

@No time for creative names just for games - Glad it worked out for you but others shouldn't have to pay the bill. This is just feeding the already rampant, inflation and recession problems.

[@Speedo94]

We saw this coming and I still can’t believe how trash it was.

[@Rexgaming316ttv]

I know your mom is trash to

[@ubermenschbrent]

I can.

[@LSK2K]

I have never been more accurate on a prediction.

[@erso_returned2530]

@Kyle Rittenhouse No more woke games from this company. This is a win!

[@jackhazardous4008]

This game should stand as a testament to what a diverse team can accomplish

[@etholus1000]

Some games have some subtle woke put into it, but are still enjoyable. This game went full woke, you never go full woke

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

It’s funny too cuz they think the twittertards will actually watch/play the media, no they just defend it teeth and bone because of the politics but they won’t even play it 😂

[@hybridShinx]

What does woke even mean ??

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

@@hybridShinx usually in video games and movies woke means they purposely inject left wing politics and ideas into the game, they will usually make the strong good characters a feminist or dark skin, and the evil villain as a evil white man, and basically making the media into propaganda that you should feel guilty for playing

[@hybridShinx]

@@ChickenJoe-tq6xd whats wrong with dark skinned characters ? :v

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

@@hybridShinx didn’t say their was a problem but they purposely make them The most powerful and morally good while making the white characters evil and weak, they are also purposely replacing old beloved characters and making them black for no reason, like I have no problem with black characters but why don’t they make new characters instead of replacing old characters, especially ones who are from European folklore and still replaced, they made a Scandinavian pagan Viking king into a overweight black lady, it’s all for political pandering and to purposely try to piss off white people so they can push out half assed content and when white people don’t watch it and it bombs in box office the writers can go on Twitter and call the audience every -phobe and -ist in the book, it’s happened many times

[@ninjafrog6966]

“It’s very clear to me that they didn’t play test this game on hard” They seemingly didn’t play test the game at all with the sheer amount of bugs in it

[@BladeMasterIcarus]

Nah they might’ve play tested it but ignored all feedback to push the game out. To them the game only needed to be semi functional enough to work

[@stanettiels7367]

The characters and dialogue are some of the most cringeworthy garbage I’ve ever had the displeasure of witnessing. Who are these game companies appealing to?? Don’t they understand that reality and the average person is not on Twitter?? These companies need to get off social media. Geeeezus. 20:32 “We’re a criminal gang. Let’s go steal toxic waste from a company who’s been dumping it illegally and we can dispose of it ethically....” Like, wt actual fk??? Who are they appealing to??

[@jackhazardous4008]

Its like this game and FC6/ND are trying to be borderlands. They've lost their identity.

[@rdf4315]

I'll tell you who they are appealing to, ESG and small content creators like the White House, Amazon and Disney.

[@jase276]

Youre why the gaming industry is going to shit, James. You morons keep funding this garbage and let these studios get away with this.

[@greengarnish1711]

@@jamesroper4952 mhm mmmMMMMMMmmmmmm Mmmhhhmm mmm mhm mhm mhm

[@awakeandwatching953]

@@jamesroper4952 do you know what ESG actually is?

[@internetbestfriend]

When a game credits its discord and reddit moderators, you know shits going down

[@xbigbooshx4643]

Certified Reddit moment. Explains a lot.

[@LightRoomRJU]

Certified common L Reddit moment

[@UrOpinionsSucc]

AJTS happens to be one of them lol

[@Afflictamine]

LOL couldn't make this shit up, they embarrass themselves everytime

[@acchre6465]

Bruh

[@yourschosen5868]

The first one was great. It actually felt like an actual gang you were building up with what actually felt like real gang, with emotion.

[@yourschosen5868]

Gang. 😅

[@LightRoomRJU]

That was the real gangsta shit right there.

[@juxx_and_gray]

I've heard that for the first Saints Row, volition contacted with actual gangsters to base all the characters

[@religioso720]

bro watching this and thinking about julius in the church talking bout the saints and in saints row 2 when u kill julius and say not really makes my blood boil this franchise was amazing up to 3 then after that u just stuck dildos up alien ass

[@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507]

Back around 2007 when you had crysis and far cry 2 pushing boundaries we wondered where modern gaming could go.... We're here and it went backwards

[@BladeMasterIcarus]

Yah sadly modern game design philosophy in the west tends to homogenize the majority of games together making for a rather bland samey feel to the gameplay without adding anything new. If players want a fresh and creative game that goes against the grain go play elden ring.

[@mindshuffler3332]

@@BladeMasterIcarus Wait, but Elden Ring is a modern game though. It was released this year.

[@Deadsk]

@@mindshuffler3332 Bandai Nanco has the Eastern philosophy.

[@mindshuffler3332]

@@Deadsk Still a modern game.

[@Deadsk]

@@mindshuffler3332 Your point being? That's like 1 game in an Ocean of dogshit games. Guy tried to make a point that most modern game design is actually the greediest and nastiest than before and he couldn't be more correct..

[@rustledentity5511]

I stand by my opinion that the Saints Row crew in the reboot are the kind of shallow fools that the original Saints Row crew would have bullied and laughed at (and probably murdered).

[@maxamillion5175]

💯

[@Quack_attack_]

You're wrong They DEFINITELY would have murdered them lmao

[@jackhazardous4008]

4 ended on talk of a time machine, wouldnt it be funny if it dropped right on the woke boss's head. These guys are literally worse than Pierce

[@____Nairod____]

So the new "crew" is basically Pierce??? Nah that'd be disrespectful to Pierce on every level lol

[@yourneighborhoodxenos]

@@jackhazardous4008 the hidden ending of the new Saints Row is just the satisfaction of the "old" Saints dropping onto them in a time machine 🤣 a social experiment in major catharsis lol

[@SteveJonesOwnsDSP]

You forgot to comment on how empty the streets are. It's like a ghost town. Population is like 300.

[@Darek_B52]

All those "impressive" graphics can't be wasted on npcs. Open world games are emptier than Assassins Creed 2 or Dead Rising 1

[@TRIBULXTIONS]

@@Darek_B52 Impressive graphics??? Chill with the cap. I'm on a 3080ti and OLED display and the game looks 15 years old.

[@Darek_B52]

@@TRIBULXTIONS read again

[@denali6935]

@@TRIBULXTIONS RDR2 would still blow this out of the water in terms of graphics and immersions , npc’s living whole lives off screen

[@fiveninecummins7768]

It’s amazing that they were able to miss the mark so badly. It’s like they purposely tried to screw it up..

[@mattsteelman3832]

The final cutscene where all the characters sing love shack very badly confirms to me that this was made terrible on purpose.

[@TaccRaccoon]

@@mattsteelman3832 oh god, I’m glad I skipped most of the cutscenes

[@mattsteelman3832]

@@TaccRaccoon This was the first game I played in years where I felt encouraged to skip them

[@Andiandru]

They did. Volition wanted to kill this franchise so the fans won't ask anymore

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

They did. Look up crowbcats video on it, the creators clearly loathed Saints Row for being "problematic". These types will always either destroy or subvert anything they get their hands on.

[@beardedweirdo790]

I was not ready for the "he's built like a femboy" ...had me dead

[@jackhazardous4008]

How did they turn the Third Street Saints into dumpster diving hobos that cannot buy simple normal clothing, trying to scrape together 40 bucks? First time you free roam in SR2 youve got like 500 bucks to work with Edit i dont care if theyre starting from the bottom they shouldnt be this incompetent.

[@EatWave]

And that is fresh off of them breaking out of prison to save Johnny Gat from the death penalty.

[@dclxvi_89]

Inflation

[@BoleDaPole]

Bc nobody wants to play a game about poor ppl in 2022.

[@dsiuh]

That’s kinda the point of the game this new group starting up the saints and the criminal ventures you start adds to the narrative. In SR2 you were already given the empire without the work of actually building it from the ground up which is why the new game is a reboot in the first place

[@jackhazardous4008]

@@dsiuh okay, do you want to compare this to Saints Row 1? I am willing to buy this game, beat it again, then completely forget where this thread is to continue arguing with you.

[@otemplet9915]

I'm almost 99% sure the entire writing was made by AI

[@trippybruh1592]

Completely believable these days.

[@Jdeadevil]

The writing prompt was "Woke hipster anti-capitalists video game"

[@Bambou13]

The same AI who wrote Far Cry 6 for sure.

[@jackhazardous4008]

Close, diverse inclusive and equitable graduates with none of the natural attitude

[@Noperare]

I mean, woke people are NPCs, so yes, it was done by an AI

[@TheSpicyLeg]

I knew his was going to be bad, even as a Saints Row fan. It isn’t prophecy. The simple fact is that the Saints Row of the 2000s leaned on edgy humor, violence, and well, offending people. Those kinds of games simply can’t be made today. The change from Freckle Bitches to F.B. Is a perfect example. The developers are so scared of having an “offensive” moment that the characters, jokes, and plots are lifeless and flat. The only thing it is acceptable to show is violence, so they tune it up to the stratosphere. You have this hilariously stupid situation where it’s perfectly okay to beat a woman to death in the most gruesome way possible, but suggesting you did it because she wouldn’t make you a sandwich is a bridge too far. Give me a break. What developers don’t seem to get is that most players are very forgiving. You can launch with janky gunplay, vehicles, some bugs and glitches, etc. People will complain, but you can fix it, and have the time to fix it IF the game has a compelling story and gameplay loop. But the devs just as so scared to violate the modern strictures that they just are completely tame. GTA will have the same problem.

[@ethanwright752]

I cant wait to watch GTA6: woketard edition fail

[@Supperdude9]

Hopefully Rockstar takes note of the direction NOT to go.

[@Supperdude9]

@Driuzzy That footage was from like 3 years ago though.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

Lol bro they made one of the main characters a brown chick. That's not counting them censoring jokes and side missions in their rereleases of GTA V. 100% guaranteed going to be woke as possible and total trash.

[@Supperdude9]

@@nigeltheoutlaw >brown ...You do know that GTA:SA exists, right?

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

@@Supperdude9 You illiterate?

[@Supperdude9]

@xid What lovely conversation. It's not my fault everyone actually hates how SJWs are ruining things. They can't design games nor can they play them (Cuphead). They have no business at all in the industry, and I'm not the only one who shares that sentiment. It's not my fault everyone hates wokeness because it's worthless when put into practice.

[@latinaparfait]

been playing saints row 2 and i have to say for $2 on steam it is much worth it over the trash reboot.

[@profanegunman7586]

I have purchased SR2 3 times on 3 different platforms and I don't regret a single one.

[@bluetooth2677]

Wish the port was better

[@mistahthompson2352]

That game is a classic

[@latinaparfait]

@@bluetooth2677 it runs terribly on my $2500 PC but somehow on the steam deck is runs really well.

[@nopenope7482]

Getting respect to story missions in sr2 is annoying. In this one you don't have to you play the story . It's actually a fun game.

[@GeteMachine]

The story in this game is definitely abysmal. You have to remind yourself this is a gangster game and you still won't believe it. SR1 was made 15 years ago and it still has better writing, voice acting, dialogue and characters than this garbage.

[@icyatlasartworks]

Can't forget that it has better gameplay too. At the very least, it didn't bug out and make the game unplayable at certain points on _release day_

[@southsidecompton9668]

You know SR 1 and SR 2 had actually known actors and actresses that did the voices. This new game has some garbage voice hipsters voices lmao.

[@terrielpounds4054]

They stopped being gangsters n 3

[@southsidecompton9668]

@@terrielpounds4054 knock it off they ain't even real gangsters in Steelport 🤦🏻 Stillwater was the real deal. I respected the 3rd Street Saints from the Row. SR3 Saints are corny!

[@Birthday888]

@@southsidecompton9668 Even if you don't like 3, at the very least the game and the devs decided to own the new tone. It was still crass and unafraid to be itself. The reboot feels like a neutered, castrated version of what it was trying to do. Like, they even got rid of the dumb shop names. We have Jim Robs instead of Rim Jobs. Like, why are you even making a Saints game at this point? You clearly didn't like the previous ones.

[@bobafruti]

They didn't even update the interface from SR4, but somehow they managed to take out all the fun and comedy... Wonderful.

[@Crimtero]

You notice how in SR2022 the boss is like "set one foot on those stairs" (implicating shooting them) then he just lets him walk away. I remember countless scenes in SR1-2 where the boss just shoots at the guys who are running away like he actually is trying to stop them.

[@greedthesavage9551]

When even some ofthe biggest shills in gaming are calling your game bad, you know you F'ed up.

[@lexus8018]

Don't worry there are some people screaming how this is the best game ever (while counting the stacks Volition threw them to say that)

[@averyoddthing5072]

Shills ? Tf is that

[@lexus8018]

@@averyoddthing5072 People who overpraise companies/products either for free or for being paid by said companies

[@averyoddthing5072]

@@lexus8018 oh yea, that’s a new level of trash when even they say it’s bad

[@dksoulstice6040]

I love watching Saints Row devs attack critics and call them "haters" because they can't accept they made a shit game. Xbox 360 era graphics on a $70 next-gen game. An open world more lifeless than a PS2 open-world game. Less in-world interactivity than even the oldest Saints Row games. TES Oblivion tier character creator abominations. The worst Gen Z writing I've ever seen in a video game which perfectly sums up how cringe that generation is. Saints that look like kids who got shoved into lockers during high school. Supposed gang members committing crimes to pay off student loans and who whine about capitalism. And the bugs. Just a watered down, soulless hunk of garbage. But yeah, them haters man. Saints Cope. Cope Row?

[@profanegunman7586]

Saints Row: Cope out of Hell

[@renoui]

With the worst optimization ever. Mfucking Cyberpunk on launch day runs better than this.

[@jackhazardous4008]

They have the same issue as a lot of devs that have been around a while: completely unupdated game engines.

[@silencedmaxim5889]

@@jackhazardous4008 The dev name may be old, but no doubt the dev team is full of new faces.

[@paradoxxor7770]

Nice rant 😂😂 But Saints Row is $60 on PS5/Series X It's a "cross gen" game also on PS4/Xbox 1

[@followertheleader]

Dragon's Dogma was rough in some areas but it did a lot of things right. Underrated game for sure.

[@TofuSG98]

It's such a good game, I like it more than Skyrim.

[@Yuz303]

Dragon's dogma was the ideal rpg game in my eyes, simply perfect

[@maskednil]

​@@TofuSG98yup, once I was done with Skyrim bland main quest, that was it. Dragon's Dogma is one where I keep going back to.

[@chrisstalbe5727]

"this isn't even worth pirating" is probably the most damning statement you can make.

[@Mortiz21]

The end credits have a special thanks to discord and reddit mods. One of the discord mods even trashed saints row 2 and fans of SR2. So I assume they also had other people on the game who probably didn't play or care for the games before.

[@dudecmonlemmein]

that's the most reddit thing I've seen out of this game. thanks jannies but you're still doing it for free.

[@ethans9105]

When a mission starts by worryingly getting an inhaler to your mate who's possibly slept in, it's time to give up.

[@erso_returned2530]

When a mission wants you leave a review it's time to fuck off honestly.

[@jackhazardous4008]

What's next, a mission where you roll out of bed and try to make waffles in a toaster?

[@garden0fstone736]

They should do one where you run to every fast food restaurant to get a toy

[@GhostRangerr]

@@garden0fstone736 With the option to speak to the manager if you can't get one

[@acchre6465]

@@jackhazardous4008 I'd say something about student loans or something again

[@PSXman9]

Looks like GTA 6

[@untitled3426]

I see what you mean

[@kevinbaumhoer7359]

Saints Cringe Woke - a Game made for Zoomers - buggy as Fuck - Story is Cringy - Chars are cringy - shitty Gameplay - panders to People that will not play the Game Saints Row 1-2 -Great Gameplay - Great Story . Great Chars - Better openworld - has more side Acktivitis - not buggy as Fuck -

[@martymcfly88mph35]

Awesome video as usual man. The last line was basically spot on, "this is what happens when a bunch of diversity hires make a game." Summed it up pretty well!

[@gypsy5543]

So basically one race should make a game? Sounds like racist enablers to me.

[@martymcfly88mph35]

@@gypsy5543 I will find you, Gypsy

[@gypsy5543]

@@martymcfly88mph35 cool

[@jackhazardous4008]

I knew after Saints Row 4 the franchise was ruined. They tried to do more of the same idea with Agents of Mayhem which flopped. How do you continue your series after becoming the president and blowing up the earth without it basically being Mass Effect?

[@Darek_B52]

I legit forget that game exists. All I remember is the lack of coop in such a clear coop game

[@blacklistedpirate4169]

saints row 4 was at least somewhat fun to play

[@Sayajin3321]

Here is how to continue: Have the saints move to a different universe. Sounds stupid, but it is as simple as that, and have the plot of the game be about the Boss feeling regret about their actions, and then have it revealed that in the new universe, Dex won and killed most of the gang. Have the Boss be obsessed with overtaking Dex and his crew, while attempting to find their place in the new universe. Not the best story, but hopefully it sounds better than some randos trying to pay student loans.

[@jackhazardous4008]

@@Sayajin3321 going the multiverse route is quite literally the only way they could take the series that would be more creatively bankrupt. Fuck it, give me a population of aliens to terrorize and conquer.

[@anotherthing]

@@blacklistedpirate4169 Saints Row 4 was just way too over the top. Where do you even go from there? That said, I loved SR3.

[@Dover78]

I’m convinced that a lot of these developers, once they’re pretty sure a franchise is dead, will just dump it on off on a team of blue-hairs and xe/xers to keep their ESG score up.

[@s_hallowzz4716]

The fact that we already knew that this game was going to be bad is hilarious😂😂

[@improbablyyourdad8458]

As a Saints Row fan R.I.P to my favorite series ever. Yes, SR1 and SR2 are very clunky, but that story hit home with me. I grew up in the inner city around a bunch of gangs, so that first story about a young broke kid becoming the boss of a criminal organization really stuck with me. The second one was the perfect continuation of the story even if it became a little more over the top. SR3 was the beginning of the end for me and this reboot is the nail in the coffin.

[@shorts26]

Sr1 wasn't clunky and it was ahead of its time u agree and it was graphically one of the best looking games great story customization and multi-player

[@jackhazardous4008]

@@shorts26 Going back to SR1 feels especially painful because it was made before autosaves were standard. You died in a Kings hit and forgot to save in a few hours? Looks like thats not time youre getting back.

[@redman9493]

@@shorts26 I replayed the first game a couple months ago and I was surprised how well it holds up. It holds up better than some of the older GTA games, I'd dare say.

[@WAstEDxLaMA]

I agree 100% about part 3. A lot of people loved that game and 4 too. They weren’t bad… but to me, I actually liked that the first two games were more grounded while still being silly in their own way but not so over the top. This new one is complete and utter DOGSHIT

[@JohnDarksoul69]

as clunky as they were, at least they were *fun* and you could tell they were made with passion. which, y'know, is something that's becoming ever so rare these days...

[@musicfinder3178]

Saints Row (2006): Take this toxic waste my business made and dump it into the open lake Saints Row (2022): Take this toxic waste and bring it to a waste facility. RIP Saints Row. Everything woke turns to s***

[@mrscruffles801]

Can't have rebellion in a game about criminals can we?

[@j-kingfoe2101]

I thought it’s good game ?

[@mrscruffles801]

@@j-kingfoe2101 How?

[@buttercup2460]

@@j-kingfoe2101 this prolly your first "saints row" game thats why u think that. aint no way u actually fw the dialogue story and characters💀

[@guilhermehank4938]

We live in a post humour society

[@GeorgeMonet]

The game is 100% super woke. Being woke isn't about actually believing the message but simply trying to gain brownie points for retweeting the message. Which is all this game does. It's no surprise that the game uses the same cringe inducing reptilian dialogue that infects every product coming out of Hollywood recently. The story would have worked if all your friends get killed by the real gangsters because your friends were weak children. That could be used to motivate your character to become a real hardened gangster to get revenge. Running drugs, robbing banks to get cash to buy guns and pay gang members. And by the time you finished the game you realize that your friends were worthless people and you and the world are better off without them. BOOM suddenly you have a better story instead of spending 100% of the story complaining about college loans and rent.

[@RaineErasmusWalker]

Rockstar hire this man

[@gormealbortrude5841]

Go woke go broke

[@zaruD.red56]

Saints Row about to be dormant for another decade and wait for another reboot. Great job Volition! Gearing up for a reboot, of another reboot.

[@GoldenQ9]

They should just do a remaster like they did 4 but for 2.

[@John-Stark]

Hopefully they Devil May Cry it, but do a fake out at the start with the OGs whacking these fakers

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

I just want Volition to die so they can stop dragging the Saints Row Franchise through all the feces. They left the mud a long time ago.

[@NonPlayableChris]

Creative writing and engaging gameplay have been traded for diversity points and woke culture propaganda. At least synthetic man still keeps it 100 , keep it up bro.

[@John-996]

looks like it takes resources from making a decent open world as well.

[@thewitchpolyglot6625]

wtf are you talking about?

[@mistaando9741]

@@thewitchpolyglot6625 meds. now.

[@xbigbooshx4643]

@@thewitchpolyglot6625 Watch....the...video before commenting

[@apatheticxmindsetx3549]

@@micshazam842 yet over hundred people agreed towards this comment which one of the many comments talking about the same problem. You only got one who agree. You aren't fooling anyone suggesting it's a outlandish idea. It's the same issues with entertainment in general these days. It's weird people like you try to project this gas lighted idea that it's no different from the previous games and people are overreacting. Imagine getting emotionally offended because someone has actual criticism towards a game that's received nothing but negative feedback since it's release.

[@americanbadass88]

I knew it was gonna be TRASH but my GOD. A street gang crying about 35 bucks for a "waffle maker" and worried about making rent and student loan debt????? This is what happens when you let the blue check mark crowd design a video game. Sadly its gonna get worst Modern video gaming SUCKS.

[@thientuongnguyen2564]

Volition shills can blame us "waycist, h0m0ph0bic" fans all they want but the people have voted with their wallet and voices. Never has a franchise been so disrespected by its' own creators so much that they had to shut down after long years of hiatus. Old fans won't miss you and new "fans" didn't support the new game either. It was marketed for an audience that hate games and gamers, or fun entertainment in general, and still complained when not their audience played it. No matter skin color or creed, we all play when gaming journalists wank themselves over the articles they write.

[@jimjam51075]

This video is even funnier after the entire company tanked as a result. And the smart people predicted this from the day it was announced...lol.

[@NelsonMandela1million]

The entire gaming industry is creatively bankrupt.

[@Darek_B52]

The AAA space is the most sterile section of gaming

[@NateTheGreat368]

The entire media industry is creatively bankrupt.

[@dannyjack659]

They do not need to make effort anymore since microtransactions bring in most of the money.

[@xbigbooshx4643]

Don't sleep on indie devs just yet. Many of them still put that passion in their titles.

[@reesevendetta9641]

@@xbigbooshx4643 he said AAA dev team not indie

[@xelldincht4251]

GMan called it the "Netflix adaptation of Saints Row" Seems quite true 14:36 i almost expected a Zelda reference here

[@Darek_B52]

Saints Row reboot vs Netflix Resident Evil. That's some expert league limbo

[@Gruntvc]

1st Paramount's Halo, then Netflix's Resident Evil, and now Saints Row. Worst stuff of 2022.

[@JH-zs6vh]

@@Gruntvc Wait for Rings of Power. I’m afraid Hollywood is just getting started

[@diondavis95]

Most of today’s games aren’t fun anymore.

[@Larsausen]

When you 100% the game you're rewarded with having to listen to the voice actors sing karaoke, no i'm not joking

[@seushimarejikaze1337]

it was a thing in previous parts too (definitely SR the third dunno about SR4) but it didnt require nothing, just finishing the game.

[@mr.bubbles2475]

Your the real MVP for reviewing and playing this dumpster fire

[@Troll_vs.]

@Retro Chad that all publicity is good things is extremely false. Jaut because it's talked about doesn't mean it will be a win. Look at cyber punk and how it dam near ended the company. Or you know any rumors against people or the such

[@kentuckyjerk323]

He was. I watched the live stream while he played. I did a shot everytime he shook his head in disbelief. I was drunk 4 minutes in.

[@damondgreen2239]

@Retro Chad That’s not really the case, all it does is set expectations for what different genre of games should bring to the table and what is and isn’t acceptable.

[@Troll_vs.]

@Retro Chad that makes no sense. How are you taking away from good games? If the game is good there will be literally nothing someone can do to uproot its hype and community. Prime example I'm excited for Bethesda's starfield even though they released one of the worse games in history and make buggy messes on a good day. Bad games don't make good games lesser if anything it's the opposite because good games make any game that isn't better then mid more criticized

[@_CrimsonBlade]

woke is bad because woke is bad i can’t define the word but ill just say its woke

[@albertmont3411]

2000's "we only want to get married" 2022: Let's ruin every single decent film, series or videogame with woke propaganda until the whole entertainment media make people *the G word*

[@wills5482]

Slippery slope, that's why you don't give them any rights.

[@dricki2167]

Wth is your problem weirdo

[@JonnyHorseman]

Gatekeep your hobbies

[@dclxvi_89]

You seem extremely fragile. Lol

[@NhBleker]

The G word? You mean gay?

[@Hunter20095]

The first act cutscenes are literally just friends without the laughtrack. But at least friends can be genuinely funny at times

[@White_Tiger93]

Another you forgot in this video, our Boss character act like feminine, sitting like a women, in one of the cutscene, because Volition forgot that to put personality trait in this reboot. SR2 have that feature where you can make Boss walk like a tough guy or

[@samcs06]

"can't tell this isn't a natural born woman" that line still cracks me up

[@AregGhazaryan]

If you picked any side gangster from previous game he would easily body the main characters of this game

[@jackhazardous4008]

Lin the racist

[@felipearaujo9841]

I actually finished Valhalla, but I pirate all my games so fuck Ubisoft anyways.

[@CharlieWhite101]

Respect

[@thientuongnguyen2564]

I only play older games. Those "new" titles ain't worth wasting 10 hours to torrent them even.

[@nekrovulpes]

I mean, I haven't played one of these games in like a decade, but I thought it was already pretty clear by the third one that it had basically run it's course.

[@erso_returned2530]

Stupid fans asked for new game so they give a new game. That's the way it is.

[@jackhazardous4008]

Just in case 3 didnt wrap it up enough for you, in 4 they literally blow up the earth.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

@@jackhazardous4008 NEXT STOP SPPAAAAAAAAACCEEEW

[@DrippleDragon]

@@jackhazardous4008 it’s funny because the devs for 1&2 had mostly left by the time 3 was in production, and then 4 and the GOOH were made because they wanted to do a completely new game but wanted to bank off the Saints Row franchise which most fans hated, and then they dropped Agents of Mayhem that ironically failed

[@BWMagus]

3 was parodying the over-the-top direction they took in 2; 4 parodied 3; and what I will simply call 5 parodied 4. The gameplay was still good, the humor was there, but the writing did sort of go off the rails, because the whole point WAS to be ridiculous and self-mocking. But that's the thing; the only reason more games were made was because they ratcheted everything up to absurd levels. The basic story of being a criminal gang in Stillwater, and that's it, had definitely run it's course by the end of 2.

[@akibro113]

Game full of zoomers and Gen Z writing and Karens is basically Saints Row Reboot in a nutshell

[@hunterhudson4577]

Out of touch gen x/millennial writing id say.

[@mjstwilight]

They went woke abd got broke

[@Linchpin_TF]

It's really sad that Saint Row slipping in this shity direction.😭

[@sumfgg0tt678]

I’m pretty sure the developers are in record saying they don’t understand the appeal of SR2.

[@baronkarza2939]

how the fu...

[@Skegfromcraigslist]

So glad this absolute pile of shit is universally being dragged across the coals. Hope this will be a wake up call to some of these companies to stop hiring these ridiculous NPCs who are more concerned with - THE MESSAGE - but we all know that’s not going to be the case. NPCs hiring NPCs. Games made by children, for children

[@histhoryk2648]

Don't compare them to children, children are actually smart than NPCs

[@dexterdahmer]

You know it’s not because we’ve been bitching since the third one and they’re still on this bullshit

[@izzycoile5082]

There's still good games that cover important messages like rdr2 without it being forced just some people shouldn't even be allowed to be writers

[@handleneeds3charactersormore]

near the start there's a furry being blasted to the face, would love other games to implement this mechanic lol

[@derrickbonsell]

No one working for a Blackwater equivalent is worried about paying off their student loans.

[@cloudcity77]

This game made me appreciate even the "worst" UbiSoft has/had to offer. Insert "Frog in the water" analogy somewhere.

[@soulsearcher9620]

Ah the frog analogy, where an actual frog in real life would jump out of the water when it got too hot, but the people who still like Marvel or star wars or saints row or anything Blizzard makes.... They'd sit in the boiling water for hours.

[@cloudcity77]

@@soulsearcher9620 haha. Thank you for your response. Very witty. haha The frog analogy to my understanding was the "slow burn." Meaning the temperature is turned up SO SLOWLY the frog is OBLIVIOUS to the temperature change. Until... it's too late.

[@dedr4m]

Radio 1 music typically does the same "boiling frog" effect to me too: Listens to Radio 1 in 2001 - 50 Cent, Ugh that naffness raps gibberish, Listens to Radio 1 in 2022 - 50 Cent is a prodigy and a music genius in his day!

[@simplejayyslife4819]

As a Saints Row fan, RIP 2006-2008 I was 15 when I first played saints row 2 back in 2011 and I fell in love with that game. So many great memories I had. I lost count how many times I completed the story. SR1 and SR2 will always have a special place in my heart ❤😔

[@sodreir.8666]

The voice acting and the script makes the original Resident Evil look like state-of-the-art

[@Black25284]

I am so glad that I don't brought this trash, woke, cringe, SJW, super woke, soulless and boring game.

[@morgannyan2738]

Fanboys: ''Im having fun with this soulles buggy 70 dollar game, whos laughing now chuds?''

[@acchre6465]

Bruh XD

[@stellarthealiendeer]

I miss the old games like saints row one and two

[@sirjazz5776]

still playable, buddy, that's one thing the woke will never have, that and braincells . . . . I mean, it is still playable... right ?!

[@CryToSomeOneElse]

29:27 " how many people finished Valhalla? ....... FKN NOBODY I love that 🤣

[@axilus_4012]

You can tell most of their budget went into the character customization with how good it is and how much advertising they did for that part of the game

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

Even compared to 3 & 4, it's really not that good. In my own experience, 2 had the best one.

[@kingfreedom160]

I think they did playtest it, but given how the developers have reacted to criticism and what they've said in the past, I think they responded to anything negative by saying they were a bigot and threw them out of the building without pay.

[@Sorain1]

Yeah. I am willing to believe that the QA team rapidly learned either you don't speak up about problems or you leave because they are at best indifferent to you doing your job, at worst hostile to you.

[@ONI-GAMI]

I love the people defending it. I'm not buying it, they should've listened to the fans🤷🏾‍♂️

[@armplanet7524]

Their reasoning is "SAINTS ROW was always supposed to be ridiculous" but seem to forget it wasn't futuristic and the the ridiculousness worked well and the story wasn't bad in both games even 3s isn't bad but so much stuff was cut out from the story the execution and pace is bad

[@ONI-GAMI]

@@armplanet7524 not really. Only ridiculous things in the original 2 are the playa's jokes in 1/gags like FBs and RJs (which this game took out) 2 which had an alien ship, certain Easter eggs for fun like GTA and jokes which where serious in nature but funny. For example Johnny's banter with Aisha was always over killing people or bodies on the ground, blood, the fact he always commiting a crime etc The entire story was 100% serious. The third turned whacky but it still somewhat grounded they just turned everything they had and made it bombastic. -mexicans turned into wrestlers -EDM era turned into a gang -The doctor's mini games which was always a nice touch. -stag (ultor) and the zombies now ain't a mini game but a mission -certain weapons. Etc, but it was still funny and had it's moments 4 was just fun, not the saints row game I loved but fun, same with GatOutOfHell Just mindless fun "I'm gonna shoot the devil in the face" They did the same for this new saints but completely bleached anything funny that the third provided and just kept the rest, tried to make it serious but the dialog is bad/ the reasoning for them starting a gang is dumb. People wanted saints Row 1-2 back not 3 rebooted into an unfunny pile of garbage. Half of the world if not most of the people who grew up in the struggle playing the saints can't relate to this game anymore, this is why San Andreas is so beloved and why saints row had it's cult fanbase. The game starts at a low and only gets lower.

[@garbearfar1394]

@@ONI-GAMI what I think is funny is they didn’t reboot the series, they rebooted the 3rd one. Which I loved, loved the first 3 all were good or had their moments. But they didn’t reboot the series just the game that sold the best cuz gaming was becoming more mainstream so more people bought it lo and behold. Whereas if they gave us a actual gang warfare game it would’ve sold nice.

[@nopenope7482]

It's actually a very fun game.

[@ONI-GAMI]

@Order & Chaos not really it was EDM Era (sorry misread that) It was edm era, even saints row 4 was edm with the dubstep gun, one for the gangs of saints row 3 its focused on the edm Astetic and look.

[@tzardnickolasthelitromanov]

>Make a game called "Saint's Row" where the main premise is/was: ""Gangbangery and being real-deal badasses; who took no shit from anyone *and no-one*"" >Mfw, This game neither contains *the Third Street Saints gang Identity, itself really anymore* _and even worse here:_ the main MCs are pushovers and complete laughingstocks, who let *everyone* walk all over them...... For all of threes' faults and the subsequent games before 5: *At least they either had the Saints Gang or were atleast somewhat consistent with that overall arching theme*

[@CsubAzUrmedve]

Just recap the beginning of the games to see how everything deteriorated: Saints Row 1: Julius Little left the Vice Kings gang, because he had enough of their leader's ambition and moved to the Saints Row district. When gang violence from the three major gangs reached the district, he made the Third Street Saints gang out of desperation as an answer to protect the community and also saved the player character with his right hand, Troy, when the three other gangs clashed on Saints Row. Saints Row 2: The Saints fell apart after the end of the first game, because someone in the gang was a traitor, so the player has to rebuild everything. Evidently, Ultor let three new gangs spread in the city so they could benefit from gang violence, and they also completely rebuilt the Saints Row district into a corporate utopia. Saints Row The Third: The Saints, now media celebrities, rob the wrong bank and damn near lose everything to an organization called the Syndicate. Also everything is goofy now. Saints Row 4: ALIEN INVASION! Saints Row reboot: muh student loans

[@chuck11duck64]

Preciate you unloading on that furry in the beginning.

[@JonnyHorseman]

In other news: Trees cast shade. Grass is green. And the sun burns.

[@baneintherain]

"Dragon's Dogma, the most underrated game of all time." *Instant Subscribe*

[@nightmarishcompositions4536]

Old Saints Row: Salty Spitoon New Saints Row: Weenie Hut Jr’s

[@histhoryk2648]

Lesson for future game devs: Don't put RPG mechanics into shooters, otherwise your guns will turn enemy head into bullet sponge

[@BWMagus]

No, you can totally put RPG mechanics into shooters--you just can't too far with them.

[@histhoryk2648]

I don't understand this trend that "capitalism is bad let's abolish it". Whoever writes this, travel to the Eastern Europe or any post-soviet country and tell somebody who lives there that communism is great, then check their reaction

[@vamrack8344]

They litterally are against the gangs because they keep fucking with them. You get fired from the marshalls, the idols almost kill both eli and tries to force kev to kill you (which he of course declines) and the Mexican gang basically starts bullshit everywhere.

[@khingofswordz43]

I recently beaten the Reboot & it felt as dry & lifeless as "Al Capone's Vault"...again bone dry. "Tameka" my personal customized Boss Chick done took over Santo Illesso, took down "Marshall". Serial killed all the "Los Panteros" & killed "The Nauhalli" in a Red Dead-ish gun duel...to after complete the story, taking over all the business, completing unfinished side quest & attending a karaoke party among friends......again, the experience was an "Al Capone Vault Bone Dry"...... 💯🌟😎💯🌟💯🌟😎🌟💯😎

[@matronmalice9867]

I tried to play that pile of garbage last month and it it's the worst thing I've played including Starfield. It's so bad you cannot play it. There is nothing fun about it. It's just garbage.

[@temperedglass1130]

Turning a steering wheel in mid air would do nothing in a car.you still keep going in the same direction, not turn 😂

[@nildzrecastellanos]

I almost finished the game, but the last mission was so buggy it made me delete the game.

[@EasyThere]

In the first scene the CO has her gun pointed at your chest like she's Alec Baldwin. That's Hollywood gun control for you.

[@Kasper0822]

Yeah.. I did the tutorial, met the crew and visited a store then deleted it. Humor sucks, combat sucks, driving sucks, characters suck and they even managed to make customisation annoying by putting 5 hats or whatever per store. Saints row is dead.

[@gohanlopez5330]

I would be so embarrassed if I had a group of friends that look and talk like that.

[@miller42]

The lead writer for this game was a woman, this explains the cringy sequences like the LARPing crap and the scenes where the characters talk about food and drinks. She's rumored to be in charge of Beyond Good & Evil 2.

[@emmanuel6801]

Say it ain’t so. No wonder it’s in development hell

[@saphinadarkness2502]

Did you just call women developers bad just for being women?

[@spaceman2517]

not developer but a writer and im sorry but the main demographic for games arent women and they as writers often have different preferences with story and characters

[@saphinadarkness2502]

@@spaceman2517 for starters, you don't get to say what is the main demographic. That is chosen in each specific game creation process, independently of if it's the biggest one or a smaller one. Lastly, it's 2022. We should really stop acting like there's a difference in the creation of a game and preferences depending on if you have a pussy or not. Hell, even in the case there were and I agreed what you all that would mean would be that this game would be "aimed for women", therefore you don't get to criticize it. (and as a woman myself this game is hot garbage and I don't get where is it catering to "my preferences" that somehow are different due to my genitals)

[@acchre6465]

@@saphinadarkness2502 no, they actually made some points , if you would look at it and not assume right away..... Anyways beyond 2 didn't have that bad of writing (far better from this ) so I don't know how it could go from that to this Ps : it's not that a person is a woman but putting boring ass talks about food or other useless stuff in a supposed gang game , is just dumb . It's only that a woman made it , if a dude would make it I'd blame him the same way lmfao

[@jackhazardous4008]

Saints Row 2 is still more fun to go back to than any recent game in this vein. And that scene with Dutch Van Der Linde would've ended with him getting laid out and stomped for thinking hes funny.

[@topnotchcupoftea]

I just started replaying saints row 2 and man it feels good to play a game I loved as a wee lad

[@jackhazardous4008]

@@topnotchcupoftea I've 100%ed the game several times when i was younger.

[@topnotchcupoftea]

@@jackhazardous4008 I might actually go for the 100% it'll be quite fun to do

[@jackhazardous4008]

@@topnotchcupoftea once i realized doing the side quests boosted stats and unlocked things i started doing them all

[@Kaledrone]

My only issue with SR2 is that the PC port is god awful and horribly optimized (I literally get lags and FPS drops on a PC that can run RDR2).

[@gamersrock392]

u are one of olny few youtubers i know who point out negative sides of games more (i like it)....cuz many others just do paid review

[@xxxCyber24xxx]

This game made me give Saints Row the third another chance

[@seushimarejikaze1337]

haha comedy in it is kinda cheeky, but still fun and the last mission is so memorable(not to mention storming the skyscraper or even going for military base as a first mission - remember laughing so hard when playing that shit the first time xD ) with that cynical use of a certain song. and its an actual sandboxy fun and not a chore.

[@thegadflygang5381]

Gotta be honest, the waffle maker hypocrisy dialogue made me chuckle. Dude wants to live in a post monetary system yet is working as an anarchist "nightclub DJ" trying to get his roommates to chip in for a luxury $300 waffle maker. That isnt bad. Inane and ridiculous enough to make me laugh

[@lopey5035]

>t. Saints Row writer

[@thegadflygang5381]

@@lopey5035 I am White, Christian, and masculine so no... unfortunately not eligible for Saints Row writing duty. Just in possession of a basic acerbic wit

[@BWMagus]

It's Poe's Law; at this point, it's hard to tell if they are mocking or espousing these ideas.

[@thegadflygang5381]

@@BWMagus That is a very good comment although I like Volition. I am sure it isnt the same people as 20 years ago that made Red Faction, The Punisher, Descent and the original Saints Row games, but they are usually a good studio and pretty cognizant and self aware. Outside of small foreign developers like the guys who made Kingdom Come Deliverance, you have corporate boards that are always going to trend... shitty

[@thegadflygang5381]

@Order & Chaos That makes sense. I remember as a really really little kid I loved Sierra games, SSI strategy and EA games because of Trip Hawkins who was a pioneering genius. After a decade and going public inevitably means you will eventually suck

[@topcat59]

Honestly I would be amazed if there was an actual person who beat this game.😹

[@mr.bubbles2475]

My friend actually beat it. I need new friends

[@she_lovesbillz]

I beat it 😅 I mean I paid $60 dollars for it so I’m gonna at least beat since I can’t return it

[@HadouGun]

"You just hate Women".

[@Reacher_2215]

Looks like Twitter bot accounts with pronouns in the bio and the Ukraine flag in the profile name can't actually buy video games

[@peterversionone]

There are less vehicles, the same animations, no real villain(unless you count capitalism), too many times I was saying to myself I wish this was three. And SR3 was where it started getting awful in my opinion. I can’t even beat the game because it keeps crashing