Sajam Learns King of Fighters 2002 UM | Step 1: Picking a Team

[@kinggeedra2796]

Ive never even played half the games sajam plays but I still watch cuz he makes it so fun to watch

[@ultrawillpower2737]

He got me into supporting rollback fighters in the first place, so I’m forever grateful to him ;) Wave of the FGC Future, baby!

[@thescoob8282]

I never thought I would see videos on this game in 2020, it’s one of my favorites.

[@ultrawillpower2737]

Join the Rollback Revolution my friend!

[@prodbyhostile]

Ps4 version is dead if u wanna play online. The pc version always has people available to play

[@mrpinguimninja]

"It has rollBACK????" Sajam's day was made

[@MisterAnimann]

Smash Bros has had rollback this whole time! Just gotta find an online Little Mac.

[@mrpinguimninja]

@@MisterAnimann damn sakurai, laughing at us all along

[@mrpinguimninja]

@Conrad Peyton thanks, whenever i feel like being a shitty human being, i'll give it a try

[@ultrawillpower2737]

Why can’t we have more companies like Code Mystics doing online betas for their rollback? If Digital Eclipse had ever bothered to do this in the first place, then perhaps SamSho NG Collection would’ve been playable from release. In other words, SNK should stick with Code Mystics from now on

[@xWagnerPlaguesx]

The samsho collection could have been the greatest thing ever, but instead DE used same garbage netcode from SF 30th Anniversary.

[@ultrawillpower2737]

xWagnerPlaguesx And it’s the only collection with the never-before released “Samurai Shodown V Perfect”, so believe me, this is a terrible shame for a veteran SNK franchise that’s already having difficulties on the 2019 version with its netcode and its initial Epic Store release.

[@Thalanox]

@@ultrawillpower2737 How is Samurai Showdown V Perfect different from SamSho V Special?

[@ultrawillpower2737]

@@Thalanox Balance changes, bug fixes, new story content, that sort of thing.

[@ddd7038]

0:39 Oh buddy. Telling you the backstory of who Nameless is will require knowing about potential lawsuits SNK was dealing with during the time

[@kingbradley8058]

I want K9999 back

[@ddd7038]

Who's K9999? He never existed

[@LordRaptor]

It's very simple to explain actually, do you know the anime movie Akira? do you know what the villain looks like? well, imagine him being in KOF, only now he looks like Nameless.

[@kingbradley8058]

@@ddd7038 shut up shut up 😭

[@GHOST5691.]

@@ddd7038 he did in kof2001 and kof2002, due to him actually resembling tetsuo (Akira movie) shit went south for snk revolving him

[@CylonDorado]

I like KoF a lot, since I like using multiple characters, but I don’t like assists. I’d rather play the three characters I like the most then have to pair them with the characters whose assists make the most sense.

[@sladevalen]

I've played this casually since I was in high school so it makes me happy to see someone give this game a shot!

[@Bluzlbee]

still going strong 2023!

[@nybethobdilord6912]

Little did he know he ended up picking the best character in the game. Lmao

[@ultrawillpower2737]

I wouldn’t care if Vanessa is low-tier, she’s pretty and her boxing style hits fast and hard like 3rd Strike Dudley

[@nybethobdilord6912]

@@ultrawillpower2737 I personally would have liked to see him play Yamazaki regardless of how good or bad he is.

[@callanharvey6264]

​@@nybethobdilord6912A man of culture

[@bii_gii]

just picked this one up last night and said man, sajam videos for this would be cool.

[@shrikelet]

Ah, the pretzel. King of Commands.

[@DarkwingD]

This is perfect. I just picked up KoF'02 on Fightcade2 and I've been trying to learn it myself to very poor results.

[@Jaybaybay2838]

I'm here for the KOF content. I subbed in the stream soon as I saw you were playing this on stream

[@datkid605]

"So what does this character do? Zoner? HELL YEAH" Gotta love Sajam.

[@firehyphen1814]

You can shortcut raging storm motion with HCBx2 DF

[@armlesskirby]

Just tried this game for my first time last night. It's pretty fun

[@Pandaman64]

I just started playing this game like four days ago! It holds up so good!

[@WraxTV]

Nameless is to KOF what Redacted is to Dive Kick.

[@orionfire1947]

Oni uses this kind of input that benimaru does to get instant air dash ultra QCF(1) Upforward + button > immediate second qcf button after canceling, as one smooth motion hope this helps catching the hands against justin wong's benimaru makes you learn something

[@orionfire1947]

This also applies to Ibuki and Viper, but rather inversed entirely with qcf > qcf up forward 3K/P but theyre pretty special case street fighter characters

[@tbc1880]

Nameless is a replacement for k9999 which is a blatant Akira reference

[@ameernurhaqeem9738]

Straight blant Akira snk hate it so much lol and made nameless

[@mikaelamonsterland]

in KOF 2001 and the first version of 2002 there was a character called K9999 who was retconned out of existence due to being blatant plagiarism of the character Tetsuo from Akira. Nameless was the canon replacement for him and has most of the same moves but with visual changes to further distance the series from the plagiarising done by 2001's devs.

[@Kool212]

If I wasn't already a sub, I would have subbed for your character choices.

[@oracidrep]

Sajam plays KOF pog

[@ultrawillpower2737]

Better late than never

[@thelenkayser6925]

Man. So many memories

[@SpecialBeam]

When it comes to KOF, I've always like Kim, King, Robert, Kyo, Mai, Rugal, and Vice/Mature(They were pretty interchangeable in my mind). Although most of my knowledge of KOF came from CVS1, and my opinions of them were purely visual. I liked how they looked and how they fought. At least.... until KOF All-Stars came out. The mobile game. Then I learned the lore about these characters(up to 97') and.. yeah, for some of them.. opinions definitely changed lol

[@mthsdcs]

Knowing the lore through KOFAS was also an opinion changer for me, in a way. Curious of which characters you changed your opinion on.

[@SpecialBeam]

@@mthsdcs Well, the most drastic change in opinion goes to Kim. I thought he was the coolest thing ever, from his outfit to his moves, specials and supers. Dude is sick! Or so I thought, come to find out he's basically a baby-sitter through most of the games. He's corny as hell. Now, being corny isn't necessarily a bad thing, its just.. I thought he leaned more towards Vegeta when in reality he leans more towards Adult Gohan in DBS. Again, up to 97' as far as I know. Kyo is similar in that regard. I thought he was a badass anti-hero but that's faaaaar from reality lol Although with him being the face of the franchise, that one is kinda on me for thinking that. Now Iori though?? Iori is basically what I thought Kyo would be. I don't care for his design THAT much, but I like the fact that he's just trying to throw hands. ON SIGHT! I know there's a little more to it than that.. but still. Its hype to me lol Mai, Rugal, Vice and Mature are all basically what I thought they'd be. However, Vice and Mature just being essentially body guards/servants was kinda meh. I'd hope they'd have their own things going on. I already thought King was pretty awesome, but her lore made her even better in my eyes. Owning a bar? Dope. Muay Thai like Sagat? Sick. Fights in a suit? Amazing. But of course, these are all just my opinions. I feel I should mention that since this is the internet.

[@mthsdcs]

@@SpecialBeam I agree 100% with all that, except for Kyo, because I actually like how his personality reminds me of Yusuke Urameshi from YuYu Hakusho, in a way. I've seen people say that the characters from Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting that are treated like comic relief in KoF, like Kim and Mr. Karate (sometimes) have a more "serious" role in their games of origin. Vice and Mature have a more interesting role in the Ash saga, even though their character is more of a vehicle to Iori's character development in those games.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

It's OK, you are on the average mark. Superficial knowledge mostly derived from CvS... a bad/lacking reference to know Snk, for people who really got into Snk from the own games. From what ive seen many old fg fans who aren't part of an actual Snk fg culture (basically limited to Asia, a bit of the Middle East, and most of Latin America) found out Snk by CvS. Very late for some reason, but better late than never...

[@Lifeonmarszps3]

For the pretzel input you can do qcb , hcf or qcf hcb depending on the direction

[@huevonesunltd]

In this game (maybe in other games aswell) it's not a good idea to pick the top tiers as a beginner just because they are top tiers like i have seen a lot of people doing, they are actually pretty "mid tier" characters if you are an intermediate or even advanced player, for them to be top tier you need to be a really high level player so it's not like they will give any kind of leverage, game is pretty balanced. If you want easy but decent characters you can try O.Yashiro, Kim, Yuri, EX Takuma,Terry,Chris,Iori,Vice,Athena,Kula. If you want a character that is easy and top tier at the same time: Kasumi. But really, any character in this game is good enough to fight any character, even the low tier characters are not bad at all so anybody works.

[@Baogio]

Nameless' theme slaps

[@RogueCheepSheep]

The game's OST in general is a banger.

[@IamJhomieOliber]

To do Hidden Desperation Move A.K.A The Final Move you need 3 power bars and orange health

[@DrMario-]

Bless Code Mystics, this game is one of the best KoFs out there. So glad you are playing this. Also, what kind of characters do you like? My guess was setplay kinda characters based on UNICLR Byakuya, but I'm not sure what you like completely.

[@ojaylenjones2301]

Where can you play this game. Im assuming not on official hardware anymore.

[@kayame18]

Really nice tight and funny editing Moste

[@CacoPholey]

Sajam: "Big Benimaru fan, Iori is cool, I like Yuri" That is my main team in the entire series wtf

[@TurnOntheBrightLights.]

Sajam likes Beni, the character who touches up his hair. Lmao

[@chasepalumbo2929]

Kof is the GOAT fighting game series, come tf at me

[@Thalanox]

Turns out I got this game (and a ton of other SNK games) with my Amazon Prime subscription. Does anyonw know if that version is getting the rollback update as well?

[@Countdownsmiles]

Seeing a lot of KOF2002 all of a sudden, did I miss something or did everyone just suddenly remember the game exists?

[@leaf3814]

The game has rollback netcode now, it's currently in beta.

[@Countdownsmiles]

@@leaf3814 Oh is it that parsec thing? I'm not 100% sure how that works, doesn't it basically host the other player as a second controller or something? It like bypasses the netcode of the game right?

[@leaf3814]

@@Countdownsmiles This video has the answers to your questions kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn-vlmd_pcmGZ9k

[@Countdownsmiles]

@@leaf3814 I've seen that, i love core-a. I was asking about parsec in particular, somebody explained it to me saying it pretty much gives someone the player 2 controller through the internet so you're not really playing through the game's online functionality. I don't know if that's accurate so i was asking for more info

[@MustachioedBear]

I hope this comes to ps4. I want to play this version specifically cause it has Hinako

[@PandaMikey05]

I think it's free with twitch prime and doesn't take much to run

[@aramondehasashi3324]

You're prayers have been answered! Now we're just waiting on a date.

[@CriticalQuacker]

Congratulations the game is out now.

[@dorkasaurus_rex]

Try learning KOF98 if you wanna be mad popular in every third world country and especially in North Africa 😂

[@ultrawillpower2737]

Not until Code Mystics lays their sweet hands on it

[@Next-xm2dh]

I hope it gets rollback, i wanna play with mr big

[@carlosaugusto9821]

@@Next-xm2dh Wrong game. He is only on 96, 98um and Xi.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

That's good to know. I always thought 02 was the one that dominated everywhere outside Asia.

[@Next-xm2dh]

@@carlosaugusto9821 98um is the one that's getting rollback next

[@thepuppetmaster9284]

I recently bought KoF 97 + SamSho V Special from PSN TGS Sale and once again Code Mystic did a great job with rollback netcode. Sadly i’m really bad at KoF 97 (my team are Billy, Benimaru, and Robert / Joe) and i got bodied by those Japanese lol. Would love to try KoF 2002 but i prefer they port KoF 13 to current gen consoles and add rollback. That game looks amazing and more people needs to try it.

[@ultrawillpower2737]

The main objective after 2002UM is handled (hopefully SNK will allow Code Mystics to add lobbies later) is to work on ‘98UM next, that is the major test to convince SNK that rollback for future titles works if you have a dev _who gives a frikk_ (COUGHS Digital Eclipse COUGH SamSho Collection)

[@carlosaugusto9821]

To me they should work next on a 94-98+um (Orochi saga) pack with netplay. A single retro release is a too small project at this point. Plus there's no bigger feat than 02um among online retro releases. 98um, good as it is, is no bigger than 98um or more popular. So the next step should better be a big project like a collection.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

A more interesting alternative to me could be a collection of Snk fg essentials with netplay. Like Kof 95, 97, 98, FFS, RB2, Motw, SS2, SS5sp, SvC. With a SF30thAC treatment: modern training interface, movelists, etc.

[@miguelgarduno935]

Well do I have news for you

[@thepuppetmaster9284]

@@miguelgarduno935 Yeah i knew about 02 UM on current consoles and 13 with rollback. I tried 13 Global Match beta and sadly the beta wasn't good.

[@zex69]

I think Sajam would like playing Kyo or Iori .. movesets are fun

[@ns2304]

okay this is epic

[@Neco-Ico]

Pretzels are the best input ever i love the damn thing

[@5izzy557]

Hmm i like pointless pain myself also.

[@NBDbingo5]

@@5izzy557 it's a sick input bro

[@qfrostbite5041]

bro why’d you say he’d love nameless, terrible prediction edit: ight my joke failed at the end there but the commentary on this habit some people have of reading different things from what was written is still valid though, what is that mr jam

[@TonyTheTGR]

Is this your first KoF? Don't make '02 UM your first KoF, dood. This is like going from addition to calculus. Advice? 0. KoF 2006/Max Impact 2 (1v1 focus, although it can be played 3v3 as well, super loose controls/mechanics, easy OTGs that you don't use anywhere else) 1. KoF '96 or XIII (less characters/matchups, good skill transition) 2. KoF '98 or XV (moderate amount of characters, good/forgiving controls) 3. KoF '02 UM or XIV (mechanically deep, TONS OF CHARACTERS/MATCHUPS, relatively tight but solid controls) 4. if you dare. KoF XI (this is the Marvel 3 of KoF games)

[@TonyTheTGR]

Also, the notation you're looking for: 1. ACTIVATE YOUR MAX MODE 2. 236 + K 3. 98 + K (this is the "Tiger Knee the followup" part, the 2 from 236 counts here still if you're quick) 4. 236 + PP

[@xiyalocan8535]

So I'm not an expert in this game, can someone tell me if igniz is broken ? cuz he seems broken to me.

[@geist-2111]

*Drops the game 2 weeks later*

[@carlosaugusto9821]

The rollback posers will prefer getting back to Sf, Tk, Dbfz, Sbu, because it's what they are attached to

[@chachawho435]

I don't think he has a fighting game he regularly plays......

[@MrERLoner]

Midnight bliss input IIRC

[@carlosaugusto9821]

It's not a reference that's any helpful for someone of his age

[@ramses.9565]

gg sajam :)

[@MrJPacato]

FINALLY!!!! Whatever his opinion, it wil be honest

[@minakohiashi8882]

I think Nameless is exclusive to 2002. Good he is so obnoxious

[@zhaoyun255]

Believe it or not, Nameless's Girlfriend is actually his left arm. LOL

[@xiyalocan8535]

I believe that, it's 2020 after all, anything is possible.

[@zhaoyun255]

@@xiyalocan8535 Can you believe that Nameless got that arm girlfriend even before Spencer's wife. LOL

[@wolvesr8n]

Sajam? On kof?.....FUCK. YES lol

[@conkersuprfan]

how is someone liking Terry gonna make someone mad?

[@valentine7388]

Because most people know Terry form smash and now he's a "normie" pick or some shit idk am not a fucking sciencetist

[@CrimsonNinja001]

You probably didn’t see his Fighting EX Layer vids then lol...ppl got upset, that for his first time trying the game, he picked Terry instead of a legacy character.

[@conkersuprfan]

@@CrimsonNinja001 missed those videos, not really interested in Fighting EX unfortunately

[@viniciusraraujo]

I guess bacause terry is the basic bitch protagonist,like ryu in sf or mario in Smash.

[@ultrawillpower2737]

Because he was added to FEXL, and Sajam mained him on his 1st time playing, and plenty players (myself included) were upset that he played a guest fighter instead of the established EX cast like Skullomania or Blair or Kairi or Rosso or Allen.

[@taylorbee4010]

Somehow I think if more klf players were converted from melee players we'd have a much larger scene.

[@GHOST5691.]

What do you mean by larger scene? As in Ratings?

[@Washicles]

Dyslexic people got hype when they saw the title

[@lemonrancher1037]

Yo nameless is shoto todoroki

[@djbubblegum9975]

Nameless is so cool

[@letod2675]

Pensei que ele ia meter a porrada em alguém, é uma vítima, no modo pratique, pega um adversário aí kkk

[@donjuan3182]

Lars?

[@wimyjohn7159]

What are you playing this on?

[@carlosaugusto9821]

It's only on pc - the rollback update beta I mean

[@wimyjohn7159]

@Carlos Augusto fightcade?

[@carlosaugusto9821]

@@wimyjohn7159 No, Steam. FC only has the original 2002.

[@moroniflores4463]

People really think kof is easy but they hace interest mechanics, and you need to learn 3 CHARACTERS, sajam are in way to become mexican lol

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Who actually said Kof is easy? Compared to what?

[@georgiosgiannoukas3319]

SNK fighters are dope as hell but goddamn do I hate the inputs in these games with a passion. Just take out all the convoluted pretzel motion bullshit and replace them with the usual stuff already.

[@Next-xm2dh]

They did that in garou

[@xWagnerPlaguesx]

Wow the biased is actually playing an SNK game..2020 really is the weirdest of timelines.

[@snick7340]

Biased how? He’s playing it because it has rollback

[@xWagnerPlaguesx]

@@snick7340 If it wasn't for that, he wouldn't. he talked mad trash about SNK games before.

[@ultrawillpower2737]

xWagnerPlaguesx To be fair, he doesn’t hate SamSho ‘19, but the netcode is archaic, so he doesn’t f*** with it.

[@SupermanSajam]

@@xWagnerPlaguesx Nah I always said I would like a KOF game if I played it. I'm just not a fan of Sam Sho. I also played Garou when code mystics added rollback to that too and liked it.

[@ameernurhaqeem9738]

@@SupermanSajam hey saja I hope u play more snk game they are good alot of snk game isul underatted

[@smb1905]

This dude really picked the cheapest cat out the box. I am so sad. Another nameless player. Atleast another person is on the game lol.

[@SupermanSajam]

Don't worry, I don't stick with him long

[@smb1905]

@@SupermanSajam damn. Well I hope whoever you pick, you enjoy them and as extension the game.

[@ameernurhaqeem9738]

@@smb1905 nameless is top tier but I only play him because his fun not because his top tier shit if snk make him back again kof 15 I hope snk know how to retconned him in kof 2001