SALAH or HAZARD: Who Is Actually BETTER? 👀 | PLAYER BATTLES | Saturday Social

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Laurence McKenna & Sam Obaseki join Smithy and Joe this week on Saturday Social. Ahead of their huge Carabao Cup final on Sunday, we put a number of Liverpool vs Chelsea player battles to the guests, and get them to decide who should come out on top…
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[@IceClawz.]

funny how chelsea fans list off stats when talking about lampard or terry but ignore stats when its salah vs hazard

[@beanhead5398]

U can argue the other way around

[@daspeed198]

@@beanhead5398well wingers have the same role and are from the same period. JT and VVD had different roles in different systems during different eras and gerrard and lampard weren't playing the same game. Lampards maybe a better attacking midfielder and Gerrard a better midfielder in general

[@5thdawg917]

There all different positions and have different roles.

[@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.]

​@daspeed198 Salah and hazard didnt have the same role in the team. Anyone who watched football knows that. Hazard is closer to a david silva or cazorla when they played on the wing. Whilst salahs role was much more similar to e.g Sterling's at city. And they weren't from the same period they only spent two years in the league at the same time.

[@Youngwithanoldsoul]

Lampard and Terry statiscally and eye proof are clearly the best ever in there position. Hazard clearly is better football player than Salah, Salah has got the stats as he’s been in the premier league longer than hazard it quite simple.

[@Funradz15]

That Chelsea guy isn’t that smart. Liverpool fan bit too emotional but actually backed up his arguments😂

[@yeLpy_]

Fr Chelsea fan just kept yapping with no arguement

[@KeyzKieran]

Salah is playing in cup finals. Hazard is playing with Chunkz and Speed.

[@indianbossman606]

It’s completely different levels, he was arguing with speed on who’s playing LW😭

[@kitrounthwaite4386]

salah spent the early stages of his career cleaning hazards boots on the bench for chelsea whilst hazard was winning titles

[@AlexTommo]

​​@@kitrounthwaite4386literally, Salah was shipped out to Fiorentina on loan because he couldn't hit a barn door with a Cow's banjo.

[@theorangeman302]

Hazard was back to back player of the year in ligue 1 and wanted by every European club when salah was scraping 10 goals in the egyption league

[@alving4]

And goes missing in finals too🤣

[@gts8919]

Hazard is no doubt a PL legend, but Salah is a legit entry into the PL all time 11.

[@lukeyduke8877]

And hazard gets in the PL all time greats.

[@TP-pq9xx]

Neither one gets into the PL XI for me

[@gts8919]

​@@TP-pq9xx ok

[@josephjoestar995]

Salah also has done way more in the UCL too

[@Mainlyeverything]

​@@TP-pq9xxsalah has a shot at the RW spot Individually can be made an argument for him as an individual Ronaldo won more leagues though and hit his prime at RM

[@3bladeninja21]

Hazard absolutely obliterates Salah in a burger eating contest 🔥

[@user-vr8fs8gg6h]

got the whole squad laughing

[@thztan7492]

Agree on that

[@ayaan2808]

Had me in the first half pal

[@anuragrimal5197]

had us in the 1st half ngl

[@Jack_Bauer]

🤬🤬

[@paulorganisation1]

I remember when skysports used to look down on fan channels, now they are compying them.

[@thatonebirtyd5058]

People tune into fan channels more than Sky regarding stuff like this so they seen the potential for more views and more money and jumped right in

[@_AshJ14]

Even started doing their own fan cams after games

[@Bert-lw1ot]

“Compying” 😂😂

[@cavanriley7373]

Sky sports has fell off massively in recent years.

[@colincolin5696]

😂😂 it’s getting embarrassing isn’t it

[@jeewa7114]

Alisson is not human. When someone gets in 1 on 1 against him it literally doesn't even *feel* like he'll score

[@TP-pq9xx]

Had 4-5 howlers this season so far

[@tryzle9324]

@@TP-pq9xx He's had 2 mistakes this season. Maybe 4 overall in his Liverpool career. Then again he has even scored a goal to save a champions league spot for us. Best keeper we've ever had.

[@distantant]

@@TP-pq9xx Had a howler in the Arsenal game as far as I'm aware. What are these 5 howlers you are talking about?

[@user-bq2tc6dh6t]

@@distantantit was two against arsenal and about 3 against city but they only scored once

[@distantant]

​@@user-bq2tc6dh6t They only scored one well taken shot past Alisson and he made numerous important saves like against Foden so that game doesn't really count. So he had 1 bad performance against Arsenal? Not bad in comparison to the numerous games he has single handedly saved.

[@socratesknows]

Salah has double the goals and more assists. plus hazard is a year older and is done. mo could go another 5 years at this level.

[@fredjenner]

Salah scores 6 yard tap ins from the same cross spamming and dive for penalties tactic

[@nulifestylefitness]

​@@fredjennerlol... Chelsea outside the box, mazing dribble on his weak foot against City, another spectacular goal the following week again Watford or Wolves I can't remember, great goal against spurs his first season, countless gems against United, top bins against Southampton the lost goes on Behave lol

[@fredjenner]

@@nulifestylefitness spam low crosses into the 6 yard box, dive and claim handballs, rinse repeat until the referee bottles it or get a lucky bounce to tap second ball in from 5 yards. Boring

[@PavK-rv7be]

Depends what the question is.. two questions: who has had a better career or who is the better footballer. A lot of amateurs can't distinguish the two questions

[@yougthakuri3616]

Hazard has double no of trophies

[@toplfc999]

Salah is not talking with the likes of Hazard anymore but the likes of Henry

[@GeneralBlaze95]

Henry looooooool G/A has killed the sport

[@Us3r0094]

Fr

[@datboidiego9164]

Damn so he downgraded?

[@user-vr8fs8gg6h]

Hazard got compared to messi, salah gets compared to hazard

[@HowTo98778]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CharlieFisherMusic]

Using 'legacy' as a criteria for judging the players is just plain stupid considering that Chelseas players have all retired and are legends (rightly so) whilst Liverpools are still current players and are still adding to their achievements. Bit biased imo

[@infallibl]

They inevitably always do this..

[@bluecrasher7710]

Yeah so apparently if they are retired that means they are obviously better. Ridiculous

[@davidotto9216]

That's why people called English players suck are overrated cause they won nothing on international level 😂 facts

[@JayThandi]

Because Chelsea players today aren’t comparable 😂

[@salehr8770]

Well then it should be the legends until the Liverpool players have ended their careers so we can look back not look at current

[@flaccidwombat7729]

This Chelsea bloke absolutely waffling, man said hasselbank in the same breath as Henry and said Mac came into a settled Liverpool midfield…. What you mean the brand new midfield that’s never played together before

[@euganieldamiao8084]

Settle Liverpool side not midfield

[@stevenb3854]

You need to have consistent parameters if you're going to have discussions like this. The Chelsea fan is all over the place. One minute stats are the reason he chooses the Chelsea player, the next debate the stats mean nothing, then he says Liverpool players come into a settled side, then changes the goalposts and says he meant that Liverpool were more settled than Chelsea. You can't talk to people like that. They have no internal logical consistency

[@Brucetheguitarist]

Lol first he wasn’t putting them in the same bracket. He was literally just saying examples on why JT had a tougher era compared to now. Also ….. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE CHELSEA SIDE? Come on, Liverpool are definitely more settled then Chelsea , who nearly got relegated LAST season…..

[@stevenb3854]

@@Brucetheguitarist What he specifically said was that Chelsea were an unsettled team and Liverpool were a settled team. That's not true, Liverpool had their entire midfield torn out, VVD was in the worst form of his career, they just had a terrible season, etc. Both teams were unsettled and it's wrong to suggest otherwise, even if Chelsea were unsettled to a larger extent

[@Brucetheguitarist]

@@stevenb3854 even if Liverpool is unsettled ( which I agree due to the fact trust kloop is leaving now as well and so many contracts need to be looked at), they aren’t as bad as Chelsea. Even this season, Liverpool is in the title race and it’s a three way horse between MC, ARS, and LIV. Liverpool is in a way better state than Chelsea

[@g.grieco7804]

We're all tribal as fans, but the Chelsea guy takes it to an whole other level. Most of his arguments were "I can't believe you're not agreeing with me".

[@granth1238]

mostly because the conversations are so shocking. There's at least a debate for Salah over Hazard. There's absolutely zero debate for Alison over Cech and even less for VVD over Terry.

[@afckajjansi]

facts. the liverpool guy literally tried to claim liverpool were less settled than chelsea and tried to pull that gimmick that macallister is better than enzo bc his team playing better lmao@@granth1238

[@granth1238]

@@Hassykay3 you just made my point exactly. Liverpool fans comparing Salah to Henry, meanwhile professional footballers and managers were comparing Hazard to Messi 😂. There's levels to this bro.

[@T-nc6pm]

​@@granth1238no one compared Hazard to Messi ever, Hazard is basically already forgotten outside of Chelsea fans.

[@kaelareay6859]

Salah is so clear it’s unbelievable

[@Peanutbutt101]

Hazard definitely is the better player. But Salah has much better stats, so it's how you look at it

[@Victor_386]

The disrespect he gets is insane

[@FastCheetah-oq6kj]

youre only saying that salahs clear because of stats. salah is a robotic winger that needs g/a to back up his performances. wingers are supposed to bring you joy theyre supposed to be fun to watch theyre supposed to make you jump out of your seat and be amazed by what you see, hazard is that. Salah is just a goalscorer like benzema/lewandowksi/aguero/kane etc. Salah is a robotic winger, im fine with a out and out striker putting in bad performances but still managing to get goals because theyre strikers its their job to score goals. Salah is a winger and he masks up his poor performances with g/a, eye test says hazard was miles better because he was a actual winger who could put a 10/10 performance without g/a

[@Alfc.]

Faxs

[@Alfc.]

No he isn't that's so wrong​@@Peanutbutt101

[@Cookie-zt2cx]

One is playing for Liverpool in a premier title race and domestic finals whereas the other is playing for Team Chunkz 💀

[@miamitten1123]

It’s not about where they are now

[@PavK-rv7be]

Maradona is dead, what's your point?

[@MH-ds4mh]

mothen olderYear 1is Hazard

[@vidolocosmas1990]

When Hazard was the player of the season in epl,Salah was being sent by chelsea to Fiorentina and roma,,so whats your point

[@francie6278]

I’m sorry but that’s such a silly thing to say, Hazard was unbelievable for Chelsea and I don’t think it’s his fault that horrific injuries have forced him into an early retirement

[@mrdshadow1598]

Its a shame to still compare salah with hazard, the one is still playing on the highest level and carries his team, the other is playing on the same pitch as speed💀

[@danielpollock6893]

Hazard was winning young player of the year when salah was warming the bench

[@mrdshadow1598]

@@danielpollock6893 Salah warming the bench? He has 10+assists and 20+goals 7 seasons straight now, Hazard most goals in a season is not even more than salah worst season, but still hazard was good, nowhere near salah. Also salah was 3rd in ballondor 2018 or 2019 I forgot

[@hundredpercentx]

I guess hendo is better than zidane then since one of still playing and the other not?

[@danielpollock6893]

@@mrdshadow1598 yes well if you’re talking about their age and comparing what they are doing now once hazard has retired why can’t I bring up the fact that hazard was balling out much younger than salah talk about longevity.. if you want to go by that logic lampard was better gerrard because he scored more goals and got 2nd in ballon d’or..

[@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.]

@@mrdshadow1598 Hazard was good from 09-19 salah was good from 2015-now. As of right now there years of longevity of being top players are similar. And salah highest finish was 5th and hazards was 8th

[@benwatts790]

I'm a Chelsea fan but Lawrence schooled this guy on every questions 🫣

[@b33tlejuice1]

alright disguised Liverpool fan, whatever you say

[@ishaan7245]

bro @@b33tlejuice1 bro what 😭😭sam got cooked in every single argument. And this is coming for a neutral newcastle fan

[@akmalrodzi9681]

@@b33tlejuice1bro he guy was waffling he did not represent your fanbase well

[@taylorallen8262]

Hazard literally took a year off when Chelsea finished 10th and Leiecster won the league, Salah still got 30+ goals when Liverpool had 2 off seasons please be serious 'Hazard is that guy who doesnt have a bad day' He literally had a bad year

[@tosexe2535]

It's funny bc kids like you have no idea, his performances against Liverpool in that year he took a season "off" for example were insane. But u would never know that, either too young or doesn't watch football enough. Thats why salah is so easy to praise for the guys that don't watch a lot of fotoball, just talk through his stats lol.

[@luckyseshibe974]

when is the 2nd off-season

[@adamg.5482]

@@tosexe2535 1 game a year , nice season

[@tosexe2535]

@@adamg.5482 No he had a lot of great games, but just because chelsea was bad overall that season it might look like it. He chose the wrong team, he played with too many coaches there, especially defensive ones. If he had an attacking coach like Klopp his stats would be totally different

[@hmmer3471]

He went 360 days without scoring a goal, if Salah goes 3 games he is finished

[@dennis5705]

Cant believe they are comparing the two. Salahs numbers shits all over hazards 😂

[@alving4]

Salah is still an average player with high numbers

[@GeneralBlaze95]

Why is it always numbers and not watched I bet you would rather pay money to watch hazard

[@datboidiego9164]

In an era where Dominic Solanke and Ollie Watkins are in a golden boot race, Salah’s inflated numbers don’t mean anything. That’s why Salah was holding bench at Chelsea while Hazard was winning pfa young player of the year

[@TheBearAndTheBull]

@@datboidiego9164 People come into their own at different stages of their life, Salah got better as he aged, Hazard dropped off with age.. peak Salah vs peak Hazard managers are taking Salah... i'm not saying Hazard isn't beautiful to watch and didn't create but you can't argue against the fact that if Salah aint scoring winners, he is setting them up and it's hard to turn a player like that down when the point of the game is to win not to look good.

[@vhureyeweqw8808]

Numbers yes, as a player Hazard is better at everything

[@samwatts552]

Salah in a different league to Hazard

[@2295marco]

Yeah a league below

[@yeLpy_]

@@2295marcoA league above*

[@T-nc6pm]

​@@2295marco0 ball knowledge personified lmao. Go and choose any stat you want that matters, Salah is clear of Hazard the flop.

[@user-jo1yv6ss8w]

Hazard is a top top skilled player. No matter which team you support, you find his game so fascinating to watch. However, I think the contribution salah has bought to his team either national team or Liverpool fc is immense. He is a mentality monster and highly disciplined top top leader who leads by exemple.

[@T-nc6pm]

It's not even close between Hazard and Salah when you check stats. Hazard should be compared to Nani and players in that league. Salah has totally surpassed him and is up there with Henry and Rooney for the PL.

[@kcxy06]

@@T-nc6pm stat wise Salah obviously has far better stats and I think he has reached more of his potential than Hazard, and will probably be remembered more for years to come, but if you're just going off pure natural skill, Hazard was more naturally skilled. Salah's had a better career and reached more of his potential, but Hazard was more naturally talented/gifted.

[@dye1006]

Hosts lost control of this episode and it stunk because of that!

[@wrighty9x919]

Hazard is a better player, guy was magical on the ball and glided across the pitch, nobody could get near him! Salah is more deadly and a better goalscorer though.

[@T-nc6pm]

Nice pea brain opinion displaying 0 ball knowledge bro 😂 Salah is the better player, because he has better stats. End of debate.

[@wrighty9x919]

@@T-nc6pm more ball knowledge that you'll ever have, the fact that you only look at stats prove that, dumbass.

[@dave-ld8mo]

Better player is not the right term though. For me consistency, longevity, mentality and end product also define how good a player is. What you mean is that Hazard was naturally more talented, which I agree with. However overall Salah is still clear imo

[@splashboysk4489]

@@T-nc6pmDumbest guy I’ve seen in these comments😂stats don’t define a footballer u donut

[@u.v11]

what is the Chelea fan talking about ahaha, he said John Terry went up against the best strikers in the league and named Drogba ahahaha they were on the same bloody team

[@cardamundo295]

And Drogba was dog in the prem

[@clips2791]

What he said was VVD didn't play against strikers like Henry or Drogba not JT against them 😂

[@cardamundo295]

@@clips2791 can name 5 strikers that van dijk has played regularly better than Drogba in the prem

[@cardamundo295]

@@clips2791 not that you asked😂

[@granth1238]

Probably worth listening a little better in future.

[@prinavinperumal9371]

Current Premier League all time stats, Mo Salah : 154 goals, 68 assists, 252 appearances Edin Hazard: 85 goals, 54 assists, 245 appearances

[@danielpollock6893]

By that logic lampard is better than gerrard and scholes then

[@Footygeek66]

No its not,hazard played in a great team also. Gerrard did not. Salah is clear of hazard.

[@prinavinperumal9371]

The midfield argument is a bit more harder, midfielders have more variance in responsibility and contribution, lampard was an excellent finisher who could support a striker, scholes had possibly one of the best passing abilitiesbto be ever seen, and gerrard was more of an all rounder who could do everything well but not specialise, in terms of athletic ability and leadership thats another seperate argument. Where as MO and Hazard both played wing and attacking roles, Hazard had more flare but Mo had better end product. If I'm going in a 38 game season I want the attacking player with more end product, because at the end of the day goals and assists win games.

[@ws6629]

Laurence absolutely cleared Sam in this vid and cleared him in the other vid, levels above

[@granth1238]

not really, his first few calls were absolutely beyond ludicrous quite frankly. Salah over Hazard, okay there's a debate, but Alison over Cech and VVD over JT is just laughable, lets be real here.

[@ws6629]

@@granth1238 I agree with VVD over JT being far fetched for sure, Allison over Cech I see an argument, yes Cech had longevity but played in very defensive teams instead of being the last line with a lot of pressure as Allison always is

[@ws6629]

@@granth1238 I also wouldn’t say there’s a debate with Hazard and Salah anymore, Salah is the best prem winger of all time and it isn’t close

[@matrix35]

The only two he got right were Salah and Trent Arnold. Sorry, winning trophies plays a big part in the debate over who is better so the three Chelsea legends are automatic picks!

[@imRehnzy]

And what you really mean when you say winning trophies, is buying trophies, and relying on world class expensive players around you in every postion, rather than being THE guy in your team and earning half of that success. So the conversation here really is, who cost the most dirty oil money per title. And Declan Rice was an awful footballer in West Ham. But now he's great, because now other players make him look better

[@K0BRAH95]

Salah has MUCH more end product, he’s fairly creative as well as being a top finisher. Hazard wasn’t always aggressive enough and was sometimes too unselfish

[@dragonflame99k34]

Yes a top finisher that has the most big chances missed since he joined the premier league well done 👏

[@wardaaron]

​@@dragonflame99k34 still managed to be among top goalscorer in EPL😂😂😂😂😂

[@christianjones1167]

Hazard is a better dribbler, finisher and creator than salah. I’m going to use stats to prove this. Hazard missed 37 big chances in his premier league career and salah missed over 120 big chances and he’s only played 7 more premier league games. Hazard has a better shot to goal ratio out of the two aswell and his shots on average are slightly further out than salah. He is clearly the best finisher based on this stats. Salah has had 400 more shots than hazard in the pl. Salah has played in a much more attacking team too. The main reasons why hazard didn’t get those extra goals/shots. Hazard has the most progressive dribbles in premier league history, he had to get the ball from mid/att third all of the time. He basically had to get the ball forward himself by dribbling and playing one twos and then either score himself or create a chance, anyway because of him progressing so much of the play , he wouldn’t be in goal scoring positions nowhere near as often, if he did get into this positions the chances simply wouldn’t of came, Chelsea were always amazing defensively, when hazard was there but the attack was completely reliant on him producing most years. Hazard also played with worse attacking players than salah and much more defensive coach’s Jose, conte etc. Salah does have just over 10 more assists than hazard but hazard created more chances as a whole per 90 by 0.18 but players like morata, Torres, Willian would consistently miss them. Hazard is easily the more talented player in nearly every aspect. Salah is a premier league legend though and is the second best winger of the pl behind hazard since the days of Ronaldo/Henry.

[@K0BRAH95]

@@dragonflame99k34that may be the case ok fair enough but at least salah gets in good positions, hazard wasn’t near as ruthless.

[@K0BRAH95]

@@christianjones1167can’t use the “he had better players round him” argument, plenty players do worse when they move to a bigger team like richarlison to name just 1. Look how many No9’s Chelsea sign who flop after being at or around world class level, it’s just salah has more end product than hazard. Salah is a better player

[@Narniee]

"VVD would be able to go backwards, JT wouldn't be able to come forwards." That one I can agree with.

[@myhatmygandhi6217]

JT still clear though. VVD had no longevity.

[@robertpttt9790]

The Hazard vs Salad is the worst comparison debate. The players played nothing like each other so why are they paired all the time makes no sense

[@fredjenner]

Scousers trying to revise history

[@adhanyuno1950]

because they both play at winger, that make sense to you?

[@bsdgotnohome3621]

@@adhanyuno1950 scholes and lampard both played midfield but played completley different roles which is why it isnt fair to compare them. Same with hazard and salah. Hazard was more of a touchline winger doing 1v1 and then crossing into the box for a striker like costa or morata to get the end of. Salah played much closer to the box since firmino would drop deep leaving space to be exploited in the middle which is partly the reason why salah has so many more goals than hazard. They had completley different roles. Hazard was supposed to be the one creating the chances not neccessairly finishing them. while salah and mane were supposed to be the ones finishing the chances

[@adhanyuno1950]

@@bsdgotnohome3621 but they in different team and different different manager of course they will play different role according to manager, but still they are winger, so they can be compared

[@renerowe14715]

It’s simple: Hazard is a better footballer, Salah is more prolific and efficient. Hazard can do more things with a ball at his feet than Salah but Salah’s consistency and output is unrivalled.

[@SW-by9ob]

Hazard the better dribbler. That's it.

[@Alfc.]

That's so false. Hazard is only a better dribbler Salah is the better Footballer all day and every day

[@LK--bq3ok]

Never seen hazard dribble past city’s hole defense and score tho have you

[@eltk1785]

One is providing assists to Speed on a charity match, the other is playing in a cup final.

[@renerowe14715]

@@LK--bq3okActually I have. I was there in the away end. I’ve seen both LIVE and Hazard is a a better footballer. Other than that, and Watford, he can’t talk to Hazard with a ball at his feet. Stats aren’t everything. Argue with yourself

[@CryptoAdz]

Hazard had a special unmatched flair at Chelsea 🔥 shame about his career at Madrid

[@anubis8586]

Doesn’t matter lol Salah is still clear

[@silver_rocket_25]

​@@anubis8586I disagree. Salah has incredible support at Liverpool. Hazard didn't have much support at Chelsea. He legit carried them.

[@akashajay5518]

are you forgetting about Kante, fabregas, cahill, azpi, costa and so on? Chelsea had one of the best title winning teams in the last decade under Conte lol. Only season you could say hazard carried is under Sarri. But Salah has had two seasons where Liverpool were poor and dragged them to the top 5 both those times. His numbers are only behind henry if we take it as ratios. That is crazy stuff @@silver_rocket_25

[@adamg.5482]

@@silver_rocket_25 so you agree gerrard was better than lampard then?

[@dylanfurmage6585]

Bro said it's easy to make wingers like Salah who just get goals and assists😭💀 saka is the closest winger to Salah and still wayyy behind in terms of stats and consistent performances😂 he is young still so maybe he will get near Salah in the future but this man has been doing it year in year out for 7 years now and to be in the TOP 10 scorers of all time in the PL in probably the league's most competitive era (meaning all teams in the league are competitive and can beat one another on any given day. Don't believe me? Look at how English teams have been dominating all levels of Europe in this period - never happened before in the Pl.) Nahhh man I'm sorry but Salah walks into that RW spot in the PL all time 11. He doesn't just score loads either, he's also a creator and gets so many assists! He works well in any forward line and hardly has a game where he doesn't contribute to its outcome. Put some respect on the King's name👑

[@fivestarman5130]

There's only a year seperating them yet Hazard in 2024 is hopelessly trying to assist IShowSpeed in a Charity match in Qatar meanwhile Salah in 2024 is currently Top 10 players (arguably Top 5) in the world right now and could potentially win 4 trophies with Liverpool Hazard in his Chelsea days was one of the most entertaining players in the world and on his day he was unplayable but Salah has been putting out strikers numbers as a winger for nearly a decade now and he's still excelling at the top level at 31 years old. Hazard was a phenomenal dribbler but just because Salah doesn't do as many stepovers doesn't mean he's not a better player

[@unknown3158]

Salah clears. Hazard had flair, and people tend to overrate him because of that. It is the same story with Ronaldinho.

[@ebz2656]

You have never watched them just say mate

[@unknown3158]

@@ebz2656 I did see Hazard at my local McDonalds, does that count?

[@kamsoobi008]

@@unknown3158absolutely counts

[@granth1238]

you just said Ronaldinho was overrated🤦‍♂. You really need to find a different sport or join Hazard at McDonalds, football isn't for you.

[@user-eq6yr8ol2e]

Hazard carried Chelsea at a period and he was arguably the best footballer at the 2018 wc🤣 watch football abeg. He’s no Ben arfa or Taarabt

[@barre3679]

Prime is Hazard but the better player overall has to be Salah, the longeviety and consistency is unmatched.

[@jockegamings2965]

true

[@ighalogodstime6815]

At Chelsea hazard was always consistent but when he left for Madrid that is all

[@yobask8855]

Prime hazard is good, but imo salah’s is better, as he came into liverpool, and scored the record amount of goals in a premier league season, 32, and scored 11 assists. He was unplayable, and obviously so was hazard, but hazard never did so well in the champions league like salah did in his prime. In Hazard’s prime, he got 32 G/A, 6 of that coming in the champions league, but he ended up getting knocked out in the RO16, and salah got 60 G/A, and 15 of that coming in the champions league, practically carrying liverpool to a final! Salah got 28 more G/A than hazard if u compare their primes. That’s outrageous 😭. I just don’t see what other fans see when it comes to salah’s prime vs hazard’s prime. Salah I think is clearly better, overall and prime

[@inahsaka]

This 'Longevity' talk is so hilarious when Hazard has been playing at the top level since he was 18 at Lille lmao.

[@barre3679]

@@inahsaka ”Since Lille” says it all.

[@RaldoWorks]

Hazard all the way man. He basically carried that chelsea team for years. Look how Salah performed when Mane left the team.💯

[@tawAAkul]

Hazard. For one season. That's it. Salah is another level

[@marcbrown9001]

Obviously, it is Salah. This is a joke conversation. Hazard didn't have staying quality. Salah is miles better. 😂😂😂

[@multikaspergaming2348]

Salah became good very late in his career. Salah was on the bench while Hazard was the best player at Chelsea.

[@mr-ov5gt]

​@@multikaspergaming2348 and hazard retired after flopping in Madrid whilst salah is still class

[@AbdoTA93]

Mo Salah is a premier league legend already, numbers will back him up and the great Liverpool team Klopp created will always be remembered by everyone. As a Chelsea fan, I'm sorry for all football lovers who did not get to watch Hazard play every week because simply they were not watching Hazard every week for 90mins. No one but Chelsea fans will be able to comprehend how magical and flawless Eden was for us. And I don't care about any comparisons, Hazard for me will always be the most gifted footballer to watch in a Chelsea shirt and no one will understand that but Chelsea fans who were privileged to watch him play week in and week out.

[@alexgrayafc49]

CECH, JOHN TERRY, SALAH NO DEBATE ITS OBVIOUS WHOS WATCHED FOOTBALL FROM THE 90S

[@martinpetrov5787]

Salah is in the same boat as PL greats such as Henry and Rooney, don’t disrespect him by comparing him to Hazard 😂

[@marcelbentz]

So is Hazard

[@Us3r0094]

Sarah is not in the same boat at all. Hazard is the most talented premier league player of all time

[@farzadnabizada6080]

@@Us3r0094 You the real 🤡

[@KingSaf....]

These chelsea fans bro 😂 i buried this salah hazard debate long time ago

[@Guyzap3]

Hazard was legitimately only a better dribbler than salah😂😂😂. Salah has better shooting, passing, more physical, positioning and footballing brain

[@azuremk__3101]

@@maisonlanders3643yup. These guys saying Salah is better due to G/A numbers... When Hazard has the second most dribble completions after Messi, most PL MOTM and no Chelsea player has won PL Player of the Month since he did. The impact he had was insane - Hazard mattered way more to Chelsea than Salah does to Liverpool, and thats where the difference is imo.

[@indianbossman606]

@@maisonlanders3643he is more physical, if u actually watched him instead of going off twitter agenda’s, you’d see how he shrugs off fullbacks and center halves like it’s nothing.

[@vhureyeweqw8808]

Footballing brain lmao, u definitely picked the wrong sport to watch ain't for you

[@Dilllll26]

salah gives the ball away so much. hazard has insane football iq and awareness, it was genuinely surprising if he lost the ball. only messi made me feel similar watching them

[@Demi876]

Hazard has better shooting and passing Hazard only scores wonder goals

[@paydofo83]

To put one of the most inconsistent players in front of one of the most consistent goal scorers in Salah, with a straight face is absolutely laughable

[@atututhangxom7735]

Sam. Eden hazard that defined a position But when VVD and Alisson was used as an example who defined a position, he was like no way bro 😂

[@TUTENSKENGS]

Its simple. Hazard ONLY has dribbling over Salah and thats where it ends. Oh yh he has that majestic twerk when "running" Salah clears him by so far its unreal that this is a convo honestly

[@flexermc4333]

Bro hazard literally can take a ball from the goalkeeper and create an assist or goal. Its not because salah has better numbers he is better. KDB has better numbers than Zidane. He is not better though is he.

[@footballtime156]

​@@flexermc4333but the thing is salah is actually better than hazard most people know this it's not a debate anymore

[@vhureyeweqw8808]

Hazard playmaking skills and passing is far better than Salah unless you blind, just different IQ players. Salah is good at finishing tho can give him that

[@ASAPHMARK]

​@@vhureyeweqw8808Salah was also good at that role too. Salah is in his own league.

[@mrss9127]

Salah’s been at it since 2017.. his longevity is unmatched

[@user-lf6go1ti2p]

hazard was at it from 2007 from 2019…

[@mrdshadow1598]

@@user-lf6go1ti2p 2019 BABABHAHAHA EATING BURGERS AT MADRID

[@yeLpy_]

@@user-lf6go1ti2pcap 💀

[@zayn2780]

​@@user-lf6go1ti2p ahhh 2007, the season he scored a grand total of 0 goals?

[@ZraxelGaming]

@@user-lf6go1ti2pur just waffling m8

[@whitecross_fc]

I can't believe this is a debate, salah has gone clear

[@adityalfc]

When you are concluding by saying maybe at the time they finish.... then dont compare them with current players.

[@darrylkemp3253]

Imagine paying sky a subscription and get served up this

[@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.]

Hazard was more talented salah had better end product. I think both can get undersold tho. Some act as if salah all-round ability is poor which is false. Whilst others act like a large chunk of hazards prime wasn't when wingers roles/positioning were completely different. Even Prime Bale getting out G/A'd by todays wingers now. Footballs changed

[@mrstandupguy]

End product? Statistically incorrect. But in terms of natural raw talent, Hazard was better. In terms of listening, in terms of adapting his game, in terms of discipline and taking care of himself ‘off pitch’, Salah has proven to be a better option long term

[@TUTENSKENGS]

​@@mrstandupguyno... Salah was better at football end off. More goals and more ASSISTS than a guy thats supposed to be a "playmaker" 😂😂😂 embarrassing

[@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.]

@@mrstandupguy Hazard did adapt his game. His best season for majority fans is 14/15 where he won player of the year. But 18/19 turned into today's inside foward type and ended up with the most g/a in the league which correlate to my point of today wingers just get more g/a today regardless of ability or who you think is better. So hazard could adapt his game, its just his lack of discipline/injuries caught up to him.

[@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.]

@@TUTENSKENGS Solely using assists is a poor metric for "playmaking" playmaking is all creative aspects that lead up to the shot. Not just an assist. I think ollie Watkins has the most assits in the league this year. Is he suddenly the best playmaker? Salah is the better final 1/3 passer no doubt and in general his playmaking abilities have been underrated but all aspects of playmaking hazard is better.

[@neutral8746]

@@TUTENSKENGS I guess Lampard is a better playmaker than Iniesta because he has more assists then

[@alancawfield6549]

It;s not even close, Salah is miles ahead of Hazard, Hazard was a great player at his best and great to watch but nowhere near the productivity or the longevity that Salah has had.

[@Johnny-wh7tc]

hazard young player of the year at lille twice, since then was top 10 in the world until he was 30. salah sitting on the bench until he was 26 years old. hazard had 10 years at the top salah only 7 so far including this season

[@andrewclarke9304]

Fitness, stamina, goals, assists, longevity, passing, pace, tracking back: Salah. Dribbling, going past a man, being pretty on the eye: Hazard.

[@Dilllll26]

thats the difference of playing with better teammates in an attacking team. hazard created more chances and his xG conversion was actually better than salah, he just didnt get tapins like salah. and you say longevity, hazard played top 5 league since 16, salah was nobody till 25. hazard was best player in france at 19

[@lewismitchell9864]

What a surprise, they picked no one picked the other teams player💀

[@b33tlejuice1]

Lawrence even said he'd thinks Gallagher over szobo but still went with the Liverpool player. That's what happens when you get two stubborns fans

[@sjolson68]

You're having a laugh for clicks with this title. Almost twice as many goals and more assists for Salah - no point going beyond that but any other numbers will also go that way. Hazard would have zero premier leagues in the time of Guardiola so he was lucky there.

[@QaisAhmed-re9gc]

Literally won the league whilst guardiola was there n scored in both games against them 😂

[@Dilllll26]

@med-re9gc yep, completely destroyed guardiola's city team, playing with a weaker team than salah had

[@tariqomer4678]

​@Dilllll26 Salah still scored more goals than Hazard with a worse team last year. And this is his worst season.

[@rparinpuia3678]

i dont know how is this still a debate , please give some respect to Salah

[@chrispalmer7893]

It's not about stats at this point for me, even though most of the numbers support Salah who'd be my pick. Salah gets this on sheer consistency and not having gone missing for a season right in the middle of his prime years.

[@connorbutler5900]

'Zizou, all the Barca players, all the Milan players said that Gerrard was the one' nah bro, they said that about Paul Scholes

[@roronoalaw7772]

Zidane said it about both.

[@RobPires]

You need to listen to what Scholes said about Gerrard.

[@GenesisSN]

Imagine trying to argue that vvd is anywhere near Terry 🤦‍♂️ Terry done it for 20 years, highest goal scoring defender, least goals conceded in an epl season, vvd has had about 3 good years in total and won nothing close to terry 🤦‍♂️ should’ve been 97 million of them lot

[@RigorousExplorer]

I feel like the Chelsea guy isn't as good at arguing as the Liverpool guy, even when he is right.

[@leao1012]

I love how passive aggressive Laurence is

[@YuToobism]

When I saw Alisson a head of Cech I knew I was in for a bumpy ride.

[@YuToobism]

I do agree it's close between them both but prime Petr Cech in my opinion is in the bracket of top 3 goalkeepers in premier league history (my opinion the best but I do respect Van Der Sar and Schmeichel very highly)

[@SReilly34]

I do think it’s a lot closer than people think. But I am a Liverpool fan and I struggle to confidently say Alisson is better. Both legends tho

[@GenesisSN]

Cechs broke clean sheet records, saved penalties in champions league finals and kept consistent for 15 odd years and some how them bin dippers will try argue their case 🤦‍♂️

[@Narniee]

​@@GenesisSN The penalties one is so funny and ridiculous considering that he played 2 finals and both of them went into penalty shootouts.

[@wilsonemmanuel6305]

Anyone who thinks Allison is ahead of Cech should be checked

[@willbyers7233]

Anyone who thinks Cech is ahead of Alisson should be Cech’d.

[@karthikraj4903]

for mental health illness

[@M.Abbas7944]

Probably Some Plastic Liverpool Fans Who Think Alisson Is Better Than Cech 🤣 God Help Em.

[@dannysm0362]

As a man Utd fan Allison is better because of his versatility and Liverpool play a high line making him less likely to have a clean sheet

[@roydixon1762]

Don't need plain different positions

[@liamjohnson4221]

I’m a Chelsea fan but Salah without doubt

[@EmmanuelBernard-mg8cx]

You are a man united fan

[@lzyttn139]

If a player can perform despite of 'the system' then he's a better player than the player who relies on 'the system'

[@r.i.psteez929]

“It’s like Messi vs Ronaldo…” NO SAM, throughout his career Messi has had the freakish numbers but he was FAR FAR FAR more effective than CR7 the whole time with things like G/A combined, shots per goal, key passes, etc… just far more effective with his talent… Hazard was pure talent and was mostly ineffective with the talent he had. Salah has by far the better stats, his footballing ability and evolution is massively slept on, Salah is better but Hazard is disrespected. Hazard’s time at Madrid is big hindrance, you can say “it’s cause Salah is still playing” well so was Hazard at madrid and we saw him flop massively… Salah’s never flopping at Madrid I can tell you that much… so this “he breaks the system blah blah blah” is bs, the premier league wasn’t what it is now when Hazard left.

[@Dilllll26]

and what was salah doing when hazard was winning titles in france and england? he was farming in egypt, switzerland and italy.

[@MolloyDadda247Luke]

Cech Trent Van Dijk Terry Cole Kante Gerrard Lampard Salah Suarez Hazard

[@bragekv9937]

Alisson would fit this team better. they need a GK that can use his feet

[@malokosichombo8597]

cech trent van dijk terry cole kante gerrard lampard zola drogba hazard

[@mobiustriple]

100% agree but id go alisson personally

[@GhostYNR]

Interesting arguement for gerrard vs lamapard but the most intriguing part was when lawrence listed all on the managers and teams that wanted stevie and the chelsea dude said thats becouse lampard was winning trophies so what youre saying is noone wanted lampard becouse he won trophies or did i misunderstand

[@tomhuges9268]

Always love watching Lawrence get people rattled

[@r.i.psteez929]

Sam, I liked you at FD but your arguments are terrible. Argentina’s fortunes turned when BOTH Enzo and Mac were brought into the side. Enzo won young player of the tournament but besides that he hasn’t really done much. Macallister assisted Di Maria’s goal in the final, his time at Brighton ALONE was better than anything Enzo’s done in the prem. But let’s talk about the cherry on top, his time at Liverpool. First of all he was 35 mill, absolute steal. He’s shown that he can play as a 6, 8, and 10 to a very high level or for a title-chasing side. Enzo hasn’t shown anywhere near that versatility or stamped his authority on any of the midfield positions. Finally, yes Liverpool were more settled but in the context of competing for the league (which NO ONE had us doing) we were unsettled. Macallister has filled in as a 6 and we’re currently in 1st… HE’s not even been playing in his NATURAL POSITION… Macallister is clear lmao

[@TruRedCRIME]

Goals: Salah Ball control: hazard Final ball: Salah Eye test: Hazard Consistent: Salah Big games: Salah Trophies: about the same Reliable: Salah Strength: Salah Passing in general: Hazard 1v1: Hazard La ligas biggest ever flop: hazard Hazard was special at chelsea and best player in the league imo. However Salah plays every game without fail. Guaranteed 25+ goals a szn. Salah for sure

[@demian9715]

Peak Hazard, Longetivity and Stats Salah

[@miamitten1123]

Peak Hazard is one season

[@demian9715]

@@miamitten1123 even less

[@Johnny-wh7tc]

longevity salah 🤣🤣 the man was picking his afro until he was 26 while hazard was top 10 in the world from 20 to 30 years old, top 3 in 2018 and 2019

[@Us3r0094]

Thank you

[@granth1238]

@@miamitten1123 one season, what are you talking about? 2 young player of the season, 2 player of the season in Ligue 1 as a teenager. First season in Prem, young player of the season, following season player of the season. 4 times team of the season in Prem, 3 times in Ligue 1. 2 time FIFA World XI. 2 time UEFA team of the season.

[@mbofftheradar]

Bro why does Sam Obaseki forget about Ricardo Carvalho, the greatest CB in prem history, who brought the best out if John Terry, as well as other players l8ke Paulo Ferreira, Ashley Cole, and Frank Lampard who didn't have to do as much defending as they did prior to his arrival, also why is he forgetting Fernando Torres? He was COOKING for a good 2 seasons, and sure, injuries and other bad decisions might have caught up to him, but the fact NOBODY remembers him is ABSOLUTELY criminal...

[@zisolo4283]

Cech > Alisson (for now) JT < VVD Hazard Alexis Conor = Dom James < TAA

[@MrPremiumking]

Terry is the best centre back in premier league history. Try again

[@zisolo4283]

@@MrPremiumking no

[@Jeffacakes21]

It amazes me how much better loz's ball knowledge is than the rest of these people who run a football show on one of the most viewed sports network in the world

[@b33tlejuice1]

he just articulates his point well, its not necessarily that the point is good its just that he is able to argue that it is good

[@pius_empire1]

I can't believe this guy picking Alison over cech

[@trashed4005]

Loz bringing old Kick Off vibes to Sky Sports 🤣

[@MrPremiumking]

1. Cech 2. Terry 3. Salah 4. 50/50 5. Alexis Mccallister 6. Szboslai

[@actiblizzard]

"van dijk plays as a midfielder basically" ok...

[@harveylewis2807]

imagine laurence being the only one with ball knowledge🤣

[@alexcrocker5329]

“When games ended 1-0, they don’t end like that anymore”. Yeah thats literally the point. They don’t end like that because you don’t have the likes of Cech and Terry 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@jcoolvibes]

This should have been longerrrrr

[@ted_maul]

Dear god, lol. I sincerely hope all the engagement you wished for on this comes true.

[@Anonymous0512]

The fact that Sam works for Sky Sports is BAFFLING. He just sits there and waffles. Blud is fluent in yappanese.

[@kingshark9057]

That Liverpool guy was only there to heat things up he has ball knowledge that makes rory look smart

[@ngutjiwamishaelkamundu6835]

He dropped the stats when it came to Hazard.😂

[@jjuukoaulaprince2928]

No been agreeing alot with you but with Salaah hey no dis guy is so talented

[@jamal1079]

These are some of the better guests on here

[@ykenzoeykenzoe1610]

Not even debate one’s retired ones still playing no brainer

[@samnedumedja5323]

So if we have to wait until they finish, what's the point of comparing them now?

[@emz2766]

these debates are so useless, one chelsea fan picks chelsea player, liverpool fan picks liverpool player and neither of them will change their opinion. they should of picked players where there is an acc debate

[@andrewk.7065]

Hazard over Salah is crazy , I would even opt for Salah over C.Ronaldo in his time in M.Utd

[@RigorousExplorer]

Salah over young C. Ronaldo at Man Utd is fair, but if you talking about the last few seasons young CR7 had at Man UTD(where he was starting to be called best player in the world) then Salah loses by a huge margin.

[@paskaazongo5773]

It’s interesting this is between Chelsea and Liverpool fan

[@wc899]

Hazard loves to assist and dribble more than scoring goals. I remember an open goal I think against westbrom where he even assisted Ivanovich,

[@camd6167]

One off game for it all, taking Hazard every day. Can just turn it on when he wants. But for the course of a season you take Salah. Can’t trust Hazard for a season

[@AzzMilly]

Hazard was the better player, salah the killer finisher.

[@ibrarmfaiz]

hazard was the better on the eye, salah was the better finisher, better presser, better player

[@Alfc.]

Definitely not 😂😂😂😂

[@jlids660]

If anyone thinks hazard is better than salah, there is no point in arguing about it with them because they obviously know very little about football

[@wallacegachanja9219]

Salah is the better scorer but Hazard is the better player. The thing Salah has over Hazard is longevity. It's like Messi Vs Ronaldo. Ronaldo better scorer Messi better player

[@poirot9009]

@@wallacegachanja9219 this guy knows ball.

[@d8ley]

That Chelsea team changed the premier league and delivered in the premier league against top quality teams that challenged for the league, as good as the modern day Liverpool are, they haven’t delivered what that Chelsea team delivered in terms of titles or stats, hands down I would pick most of the Chelsea players over the modern day Liverpool players as they actually delivered against competition that was just as good as them and I’m not fan of either.

[@EnvyPower]

Laurence is always making valid points imo

[@SW-by9ob]

Is this genuinely even a discussion? Hazard may well have had more raw talent, but Salah is far better in every way that actually matters.

[@finnmccool6613]

United supporter - Stats wise Mo Salah wipes the floor. Who would I rather have paid money to go watch in their prime? Hazard all day long. Salah is clinical, Hazard was beautiful.