Salamanders vs. Deathkorps of Krieg | Pariah Nexus| Warhammer+ TV (2023)

[@TheWarmachine375]

Mind Shackle by Necrons on hapless humans is terrifying. Their bodies are controlled against their will and they can't break free even with all the willpower to fight it.

[@squishyushi]

Which just makes the kriegsman begging for death even more sad. The marine that gives him a mercy death at the end doesn’t even know they are kind shackled and initially wants him to suffer in the flames in pain but I think he realizes at the end that something isn’t right and that maybe he branded them as traitors too quickly

[@giabaonguyen7978]

​@@squishyushieven worse when he is a Salamander, a chapter that prioritizes life over anything.

[@Autobotmatt428]

That is a true loss of free will. Awful

[@MuddyCrawdad757]

​@@giabaonguyen7978Exactly but he also is injured an lost all his borthers in a bad crash... He may not have been thinking to well at the moment

[@leeksayain1024]

That’s worse than a damn zombie …would yall say the flood is worse than what the soldiers go through ?

[@quakingphear]

Damn, couldnt even recover his brothers’ gene seed.

[@blaze7797]

what is used for in warhammer?

[@lryiss9407]

@@blaze7797 Its how Space Marines create more of themselves, "reproduction" in a sciencey high tech way.

[@Bro-zl8ow]

making another space marine

[@quakingphear]

@@blaze7797 It's used to make Space Marines. It's finite and if it's lost, it can't be implanted into another human. He's trying to survive the situation, but also is looking to the long term survival and viability of his chapter.

[@CASA-dy4vs]

(F in the chat for extinct legions & chapters)

[@DeathStormRed]

The behavior of the Salamander even on the small details like be aware and value the safety of others to even double check the troopers before taking action is so much on point that it show the person who wrote/made/etc is not only a true son of the Emperor but also awesome for giving the Salamanders some very very very deserved representation , they are insanely awesome (apart for the gold colored armor, top tier worst armor decoration among Astartes (even most fallen/chaos chapters, they at least have a reason to be ugly).

[@kodexeighteighteight]

I actually dig their armour colour and design. One of my top favourites

[@adentsang]

Gold armour can be good depending on which units use it, like the sanguinary guard for example.

[@ru_gamerandotaku2431]

Knowing what i know from salamanders this probably pained him to do sure he's granting them mercy by ending there suffering but he must have wanted to find another way that could free them

[@FutaCatto2]

Probably not. The Salamander did not know what was going on or what caused them to act such a way he assumed them attacking him was at their own will. The mercy kill was just him realizing a Kriegsman was begging to get killed instead of going out willingly or fighting back.

[@clydemarshall8095]

@@FutaCatto2he had a bolter. Mercy kills don’t use flamers.

[@thetraviler]

@@clydemarshall8095 considering the horrors beyond human imagination that can occur within the 40k universe, being burned alive by a flamer is 100% a mercy killing compared to things like being a permanent fixture to a Chaos Marines fleet for eternity.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

@@thetraviler Not from a Salamander since flame weaponry is basically their entire roster and combat doctrine. To him they WERE traitors not people under the effects of some sort of mind control, plus Salamanders and the Krieg aren't exactly the best of friends since one tried to SAVE as any civilians as possible while the other is more than accepting of KILLING civilians if they get in the way.

[@thetraviler]

@@cursedhawkins1305 That wasn’t the point I was arguing. I was simply saying that burning alive is essentially a peaceful death in the Warhammer universe compared to the many other horrors that exist. Like being tortured by a chaos god for thousands of years. Sorry if my phrasing was confusing.

[@andarara-c1p]

Those pipes getting into the poor Space Marines again!

[@tomxaider2058]

Worse his battle brother cannot extract his gene seed

[@darkstormww7479]

They really need to redesign those ships, every time one goes down pipes always end up in 9/10 of the characters

[@akureshakni]

Those damn pipes I swear!

[@darkepankakes8302]

Space marines getting piped👌😫👌

[@SpectralKnight]

The most unrealistic thing about this entire series is that the necrons SOMEHOW got a whole hell of a lot of Kriegsmen captured ALIVE, when even their own comissars can barely keep them from suicide running.

[@igorzagorodniy3123]

No need to capture them, invisible nanoscarabs just forcibly enter your brain and nervous system

[@sovietshark8837]

That’s what I was thinking

[@TheSpectralFX]

well they got mind shackeld by drone, the darn necron properly been sneaky about it.

[@Alykii-dk4ux]

Yea capturing kreigsmens alive is like a death joke

[@cyborgchicken3502]

I feel like u guys underestimate just how dangerous the Necrons are though.... They literally have some of the most advanced weapons in the galaxy which is powered by the souls of literal gods... Plus they too don't fear death since they can simply recycle what's left of their souls into new bodies... There's a reason some commissars consider the Necrons to be a very terrifying threat

[@VeryBeowulf]

Oh Man, there was rage in those killings. To interrupt a funeral rite for the recovery of his fallen Brother’s intact gene seeds, especially when there’s so few of them left in lore. You could feel the anger in those moments of slaying the Guards.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Well, you also need to consider that the Salamanders and Krieg in terms of tactics are polar opposites from each other, one tries to minimize casualties while the other really couldn't give a F about casualties especially if they're civilians involved.

[@natebardwell]

Whoever did these scenes, run the live action. Period. Lore accuracy is perfect end to end.

[@CT-Clone]

Hearing a Kriegsman being begged to be killed like that... I know that they're fanatical and all and wish to die in the name of the Emperor, but... The pain in his voice makes me feel nothing but remorse, especially with how cold the Salamander sounded. Yes, he did see him as a traitor and did give him the Emperor's Mercy, but it still felt... I don't know, chilling to hear such hatred from one. Sorry for the long comment, just wanted to share my opinion ^^;

[@sammessenger1170]

And considering he's a Krieger, his entire reason for fighting is to prove that he is loyal. To die thinking that he had been branded a traitor is probably one of the worst fates for him.

[@docholiday4129]

It’s even worse from a Krieger’s perspective. To be branded a traitor is the ultimate mark of shame for them. Even more so than others who would receive such a title. Knowing in your last moments you died a failure, that must be utterly heart breaking

[@Nitrougen]

​@@sammessenger1170 yeah, you can literally hear the Krieger saying "No..." repeatedly after being called a traitor while gasping for air and holding out a hand in hopes that the Salamander grants them the mercy of death

[@alienatedbean12]

Why did he call him a traitor? Wasn't he possed by the necrons juju? He wasn't in control of his body.Atlleast that what it seemed to me

[@nickbrothwood9903]

​@@alienatedbean12sa'kan didn't know at the time.

[@Leisurelee53]

Nobody commenting on the fact he tried to soldier on, but once the objective became impossible, zero hesitation Juice me up. Dull the pain Get my organs blood and i dont care how. Just mainlined a speedball, morphine and a handful of smelling salts and got to it.

[@somedude-l2g]

A furious cocktail to be sure

[@gamechanger8908]

If Sa'kan ever survived. It would be hard to explain all the wasted geneseed.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Unless they changed this, each Space Marine has the equal to a bodycam in their helmet's meaning even if the marine's KIA but still recovered that should be viewable.

[@Furious_Slap]

4:01 me pulling out the raid when I see a roach on the kitchen floor

[@user-uy1rg8td1v]

Should have drop-pod in instead of taking a gunship. LZ was way too hot for a gunship.

[@alexadamson9959]

The Kriegsmen do not speak in a German accent… my disappointment is immeasurable. But in all seriousness. The way this started and the way it ended was really damn good. The salamander actually sounding happy to see the guardsmen and genuinely concerned for his safety. As a posed to most chapters that would just bitch slap the offending mortal out of ship to get some private time with their deceased brothers. Even pausing during this VERY important procedure to extract geneseed to continue pleadings for him to go somewhere safe. Than at the end, when his brothers are burned and their geneseed unrecoverable he gets pissed. Understandably so. It wasn’t the guardsman’s fault that he man mind raped by necrons, but space marines, especially salamanders, are humans too. They get emotional and direct blame places it doesn’t need to be directed. But in the end he still choses to mercy kill the guardsman. Granted, it was via the most painful method at his disposal, but promethium will kill you quicker then being trapped in a burning vehicle, so while it was the smallest of small mercies, it was still a mercy.

[@warlordjjj2111]

Arguably the flamer was the most merciful way to kill him. He had just rebuked him as a heretic and when he realized he was wrong he chose to mercy kill him he used purifying flame instead of just killing him.

[@darkstormww7479]

He thought they had become heretics but then he realised they were being controlled by necrons.

[@dominicwilliamson7912]

The salamander actually comendeering the soldier on his bravery for coming to check on the still burning wreckage. Salamanders are dope

[@WhisperXK]

I feel like any other space marine would have just killed that guardsman, the salamander just grabbed him and tried to find out what was wrong

[@louisdahlia]

Yet again Astartes being undone by their mortal enemy,,, Plumbing .

[@RascaldeesV2]

Wait till you hear about the new Astartes chapter Adeptus Plumbinus

[@mojo_joju]

I wonder why he was so pissed at the guardsmen under mind control. I don’t think they would’ve willingly chosen that much pain and suffering

[@Loispealz34]

Context matters. So does knowledge. There is a big chance Shakan did not know about mind control scarabs.

[@euronico7949]

He's had no knowledge about the mind shackle. Hence why he only saw them as a traitor acting on their own will.

[@jeriklu9102]

Cause they prevented him from taking his brother's geneseed

[@howardyoo4070]

I was worried for the Salamander when he was surrounded by the troopers, but as soon as this 2:37 happened, i became worried for the troopers

[@scuder179]

One interesting things is that Salamanders will burn their dead in a funeral pyre if their bodies are unable to be brought back. So while he was unable to recover their geneseed, the ship burning at least allowed them to have a somewhat customary funeral.

[@GoF1ns]

Love the salamanders. Such nice, green, murderous bois.

[@binibnladin]

Kriegmarine😢 No traitor

[@Mrcaptainmorgan93]

I know their not zombies but this is how i imagine 1 space marine vs zombies to be like. Literally unable to peirce the armor

[@banlungx001]

if this is in 9th edition , we can joke about he roll so many 1 , but in 10th you can only lose half the transport at worst with a 2 wound marines

[@impalakingpin]

One of the friendliest has to kill one of the most loyal such a shame

[@armando429046]

I dont...hollow....blind.....cant do it...bro was struggling sooo hard

[@Moveaflow]

Glad someone else tried to hear it. Wonder if Sakan finally pieced it together when he decided to kill the last guardsman instead of letting him burn

[@ZTC5]

When you realise a space marines knife is basically a sword of machete for Guardsmen

[@dolphinerofachero3159]

Thats the second time now Kriegsman and Salamanders fought eachother

[@alfredsecurity5275]

I'm sure some will have the right answer, but wouldn't more space marines be able to survive such a crash? Even if thery're impaled ?

[@RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight7]

Yeah unless he it went straight thourgh all the lungs or all the hearts

[@Theoreticallyyou1234]

If you saw the landing footage it’s a miracle a single on survived. Warhammer is based in reality and going from 400mph to 0 in 0.05 seconds is something like 1000g force. That’s the equivalent of 1000x your bodyweight on each square inch of your body. That’s like bieng shot by a 50 kcal in each square inch of your body. No matter how sturdy the flesh or the armor, think about putting some incredibly hard meat in an indestructible can, and then applying 1000g’s to it. The can will survive but what’s inside will be mush

[@clydemarshall8095]

@@Theoreticallyyou1234Warhammer? Based in reality? That’s a new one.

[@Loispealz34]

No not really. Space marines are fukken tough, but there are limits. As most of the times the reason you cant kill them is not because you don't have the ordnance to damage them, its because they are faster than you, think and react faster than you do, are far more accurate than you will ever be. Unfortunatelly gravity is a unnavoidable hit, its a damn miracle a single one of the survived. And Sa'kan was very much near death back there. He had to juice himself in stimulants, painkillers, and broncodilatadors (probably to help his crushed lungs work better).

[@therealmazin3915]

Congratulations. This is awsome creation. Thank you so much.

[@manhunter433]

Damn shame he wasn't able to get the gene seeds of his brothers.

[@sirblockepicmcswaggins5248]

The idea of quickdrawing a flamethrower is hilarious to me

[@IronianKnight]

That's how you know he's a Salamander.

[@Captainkebbles1392]

"Kill me" "Nooooo" "control" I actually almost feel sorry for them

[@Thornshock]

What exactly were those funeral rights sa'kan was performing?

[@dolphinerofachero3159]

Removing gene-seed, that stuff can make new space marines

[@Moveaflow]

Afaik, he's recovering their geneseed

[@SUPPLEGENIUS]

Removing the super-testosterone testicles so that he can implant them into the next generation space boys.

[@9bang88]

Theyre like headcrab zombies

[@TheSpectralFX]

I don't get it, don't Salamanders know about Necron mind shackles?

[@damnationdan5253]

Probably not, it's dramatic irony that the audience knows but the characters don't.

[@dragonrider1736]

The imperium keeps a lot of secrets. Which is foolish to hide such knowledge to learn how to actually fight

[@Razgriz_01]

@@damnationdan5253 And aren't necrons relatively a rare opponent for Space Marines? They're also dealing with one that loves to experiment.

[@ryleeculla5570]

Bruh I’d say the guardsmen a treated more human then the death korp of kreig

[@ZAFRAN-j6f]

What happened to that kriegman?

[@digivagrant]

You'd think Astartes armor is stronger than this...

[@furioussherman7265]

I'm rather disappointed by the lack of shovels being used by the Kriegsmen.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

They were POSSESSED.

[@furioussherman7265]

@cursedhawkins1305 No excuse for them to not be wielding their shovels.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

@@furioussherman7265 Ok, you try being controlled by something else and try to act like yourself... plus you're trying to MAKE a regiment of guardsmen that are fanatics for how loyal they are to the Imperium to act like traitors, you're basically ASKING any self-respecting Krieg member to commit suicide because that's exactly what they would do before ever remotely turning their backs on the Imperium.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

@@furioussherman7265 Then you would be asking any self-respecting Krieg member to what's basically the equal as suicide, the Krieg wouldn't willingly attack a space marine because they're loyal to the Imperium, did you not even catch the Krieg say "no" when Sakan called them a traitor? A Krieg being labelled as a traitor is a stab right in the heart.

[@ricksalazar5602]

They shouldn’t have killed the commissar lmao

[@germgerm-animation-sfm2258]

My question did he ever discover that thirs somthing wrong with them and did he regret it

[@oldironfarm]

At the end, when he kills the last guardsman, you can hear them say "control" that is when he pieces together that they are being corrupted by something, so he mercy killed the last one.

[@germgerm-animation-sfm2258]

​@@oldironfarmthe one with fire? Or is thir another video for that

[@oldironfarm]

@@germgerm-animation-sfm2258 The one with fire

[@cursedhawkins1305]

@@oldironfarm Using the flamer isn't a mercy, that's a slow and prolonged death, the bolter would have been a mercy kill tool because it would have been quick.

[@oldironfarm]

@cursedhawkins1305 (from what I believe) He lost his bolter, and the only way he could "mercy" kill was with the flamer (of course this isn't the case if he did have his bolter and I'm just blind)

[@Kat957]

Are they seriously trying to show pipes piercing space marine armor in that crash? I'd hate to be one of the marines issued the paper mache armor instead of the real thing, it doesn't look like it's holding up well in field trials. Something that has always driven me nuts about Games Workshop is their complete lack of understanding of basic physics or firearms. From the novels that describe lasguns as having a lot of recoil (light has no mass, therefor no opposite reaction, that's why your flashlight doesn't jolt backward when you turn it on) to the space marines being either walking tanks or fragile as hell depending on whatever the plot demands, to the given measurements for orbital bombardment batteries that would be enough to wipe out all life on a planet in one shot, but miraculously do barely anything... I love 40K, it's my favorite fictional universe, but holy shit do they not have any care for consistency with it when it comes to some of the most basic things. Want a shot of space marines dead in a crash? Their armor is made of paper mache now, so just show pipes sticking out of em! Want a space marine to take a lot of damage and keep fighting on dramatically? Well now it's made of a near indestructible material, have at it! So stupid... Also this is the most PG 40K thing I've ever seen, the bolt rounds just create a flash of light when they hit someone now apparently, having a pipe through your chest doesn't make you bleed... Like seriously, what the hell guys?

[@christebiscon9577]

Can a space marine ever leave his armor or have sex

[@AssyrianTitan]

They can do both

[@planetkc]

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