Star Citizen Week in Review - Major Changes to Components in 3.24.2

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[@Thearmiktz]

Mike o7. Yesterday I was on Subliminals chat checking out the keybinds and trying to emulate a power triangle. He had the idea of using his gameglass for switching power efficiently by dropping to minimum everything (shields/engine/weapons) and then maximize them by priorities. He went for 3 MACROs, one for each setting, ( first minimize all the settings then maxing the power setting you want to prioritize, for example shields, and then the others). I keep thinking about it and noticed, you don't have to use macros, just 4 keys, one to minimize everything. Just bind the same key in the three options (minimize shield/weapons/engines) so everything will be allocated in the ship capacitor at key press, then bind three different keys to maximize each individual setting. For example, max shields 1, max weapons 2 max engines 3, and you can minimize all with 4. So the rotation is the following: first press 4 to allocate all points in the capacitor, then you select your priorities in order of importance. If you press 4 then 1,3 and finally 2, it will give all power to capacitor then max power on shields, then engines and lastly weapons, using every point available In the capacitor. Sorry, lots of words, and words are difficult. Just trying to help. Great video as always o7.🎉

[@NegativeProcess]

Thats not bad, I might do something like that, as of now, I kept my old bindings that added points, then set the same key as double press to remove points, but yours seems to be a bit quicker

[@RoroYaKnow]

You can set those same keybinds on the keyboard. That’s I’ve done since the power triangle. You get boosts bonus when utilizing 100% of each shields, weapons and engines.

[@Thearmiktz]

@@RoroYaKnow I think maybe I wasn't as clear as possible or that have that you could have misunderstood my comment, so here is another to make things clearer. Of course, being pvping in sc in those exact keybinds on the triangle since 2.0 branch, and I try to imitate or execute this every time the flight model/keybinds changes. That's the idea of the original comment. The special thing now, is that you have to send every time all the points to capacitor (or else you have to do it manually using the wheel on the mouse or the keys that you will define for each function {minimize/maximize/increase/decrease} that are 4 keys for weapons, shields, and also engines, that makes 12 keybinds in total just for the power management, and not to mention you have to fiscally see or remember the exact points allocated in each segment weapons shields and engines) and then select/press (1-3) to prioritize what you want to do and then the other things that aren't that important for you. Like if 1 is your Weapons (I'll represent it with a W), 2 is your Shields (S), 3 is Engines (E), and 4 is Minimum shields/weapons/and engines (M). For example: To select WEAPONS and on second priority engines: 4 for M, 1 for W, 3 for E, and lastly 2 for S To select SHIELDS and on second priority engines: 4M, 2S, 3E, and lastly 1W To select ENGINES and on second priority shields: 4M, 1W, 3E, and lastly 2S So on and so forth... o7

[@beny9360]

Damn. Mikes words ‘and server meshing is starting to look like a reality’ nearly brought a tear.

[@psychotic4560]

@@beny9360 same. Nice to hear even Mike is looking the looks of nit.

[@spacewombat4569]

Don't let that distract from the fact that they'll have to rebuild everything again because nothing in the game was designed with thousands of players in mind.

[@beny9360]

@@spacewombat4569 I think the water bottles will still be ok. I’ve mostly been a single player type chap. I’ve no expertise when it comes to MMOs. I presume you think buildings/stations are too small etc.

[@rurallawwildwest9679]

I now understand why many players only come back once or twice a year.

[@BillSauceify]

Yup Ill check out SC probably twice a year. Ill play for about a week and then wait for a bigger patch. I might check out 3.24.2 but most likely ill wait for 4.0

[@jimpetterson7422]

Its been like 3 years for me 🥸

[@blkzeuz5609]

join the club

[@sanctred]

@@BillSauceify exactly.. me too. For me I'd say I come back 2-3 times a year and play for 1-2 weeks.

[@Crittek]

Playing this like a game is a huge mistake. Awesome project, I respect the risk that nobody else in the industry wants to take but this shit is not a daily driver unless you hate yourself.

[@psychotic4560]

Best part of Monday 🎉

[@daseck69]

I love, how Thorsten is still showing every time how much he actually cares about the quality of the stuff him and his team develop.

[@matheuskalil5680]

I agree about the flight model being the most important thing in a space sim. At the same time I feel like the resource system is going to change how flying works so much that it actually makes sense to wait for it. Thanks for the update!

[@nerdglider]

Stay safe in the storm man!

[@dogsgods3241]

argo needs a small refueling vehicle, something literally like a fuel tank with a seat to move it around

[@Axeonfluke]

Be safe, Hurricane time and this time it's not a drive-by. Pet Clover for me.

[@Cmdr_V]

Brother idk how ive watched and commented so much on your channel without being subbed but i made it im here lol

[@SeerreuS]

This was a very good weekend review. Can't wait for the live stream coverage of Citizen

[@jimc7022]

Component updates….they reduced shields across the board. Redeemer also had her 101k HP reduced to just 66K. So an example of one ship they reduced shields from 200k to just 28k and reduced HP by a whopping 36k. Yet they want engineering game play on multi crew ships. The ship will be popped by a fighter before anyone can get out of a seat to change a fuse. They are making multi crew ships at an even bigger disadvantage to fighters with these changes. How is that encouraging multi-crew and engineering game play???

[@SirIsaacMewtonIII]

exactly. "oh there's a part that's damaged, let me get tha--BOOM" "hey guys i'm bugged in the sleeping pod again i'm gonna log out"

[@Flufficatfish]

I wonder how the server meshing with 1000 players would work if they had a slight queue to get in as a test. just to see what would happen if they slowly let in 1000 people, rather than having a whole server of 1000 people logging on all at once.

[@GrunfWorks]

Love the week in review show. Keep it up 👍

[@mh.9908]

Day saved, thanks for the great videos Mike, Greetings from germany 😉

[@Phoenixstorm36]

The sneaky peek could be the Ranger RC at least the old 3D model comes very close to that as a friend mine pointed out. I was skeptical at first but it looked too close that I couldn't refuse to believe as well.

[@marduksonofeeyah8953]

Thanks, Mike! Always a great and informative video.

[@ConradLarsonGaming]

Ok it's mind-blowing to hear an NPC talking about Trigger in-game. The Lore-Builders where I came up with the rules is like a decade ago at this point.

[@marduksonofeeyah8953]

I didn't really care for the Purple Haze paints to start with but after flying around with it on the Syulen, it's kind of growing on me. At first I thought it looked like a purple ship that hit a green can of paint but now I see it like a green base coat that was repainted purple but with poor quality paint and it's coming off as you fly around. Would have preferred the Ghoulish one though and I'll probably trade it in at some point

[@hIGH_aND_mIGHTY]

I didn't know about the previous nerf to the custodian so when I saw it was the tier 2 sub reward along with the buff I assumed it was money related

[@StellaAlamarr]

My hope is that they are turning down speeds and performance to allow for growth with components and potentially thrusters etc. in the future to match what we have now and possibly more. Lower starting speeds allow for lower skill floor but then higher speed from tuning parts and engineering heightens the skill ceiling.

[@johnwilliams4198]

Honestly I can’t fly sticks and tinker with 5 or 6 freaking power adjustments while I’m fighting. This may make sense for large ships and multiplayer gameplay but in a single seater fighter????

[@gendo1]

Loved the stream with Mind1. Huge fan of him for years and getting more invested into SC, I plan to follow your channel a lot more!

[@Karackal]

This probably came in too late for the recording: there are now keybinds to fire individual weapon groups without them having to be the selected one. I think they tried to clean up the pips and didn't mean to screw over HOSAS users.

[@Brakerofwind]

Stay safe mike.

[@SaltEMike]

I think we will be ok just the random tornadoes are the worry.

[@Bubblegum_Ronin]

Thanks Mike!

[@leslieviljoen]

NPC's talk to each other like in Elite! Elite's people have some reasonably interesting conversations, I sometimes eavesdrop 😊

[@alr1242]

I just wanna know if 3.24.2 will fix our ability to sell cargo, hand mining loot, VHRT loot, ROC mining loot, etc. Freight elevators completely broke the flow of selling stuff.

[@lolsalad52]

Ship is sneak peek is like 90% an argo salavage ship, probably between the vulture/reclaimer in size. I dont know how it will fit in other than more storage though, maybe a 3rd small salvage arm? Maybe more storage is enough but that sounds kinda boring to me.

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

Do not forget that a space game will never be like real space flight, because in the real world mass attracts mass and you would thus have to deal with orbital mechanics.

[@jamescossey6372]

I would definitely save trying to find a balance per solar system is going to take trial and error. You would basically have to have a server up for at least 48 to 72 hours to see how people disperse. I would imagine Stanton might do well with about 500 players. About 50 per planet, 10 per moon, 10 per LaGrange point, then some at random areas in space. Past that you really would be fighting for missions. At 500 per system though with thier wish of 100 systems thats 50,000 per server or what ever it would be called. Which if we got lucky enough with that, I think Eve only recently broke 40,000 players on one server at a time

[@The01Director]

If you’re a sponsor, then more likely than not they are there because of a big announcement and want to have their name associated with that announcement.

[@SpaceMuffin-el5pg]

Hey Mike, I put a funny reaction image of you in your discord under the Dank Memes chat. Enjoy lol.

[@ZaneDragonBorn]

Thanks for the review. Just wanted to rant a bit based on the change near 6:50. Guns in SC annoy me so much. Sure, SMGs are close range, that's great, but why use an SMG when a AR is close range AND long range. It's like they try to give them common sense buffs and don't even try to make them worse for specific situations. ARs and DMRs/Snipers have it the worst. In no way should a sniper be used more than once by any player in AC, no map is big enough for that. Furthermore, the S71 is used at way to close of a distance for a 50m assault rifle. We have a huge problem of movement unbalance and meshed together gun roles.

[@MikePhilbin1966]

So, player's hand still doesn't reach out for these cockpit BUTTONS and brand-new MFDs (like all the advertising showed for the last ten years)?

[@TheStumafoo]

honestly even 4.0 doesnt seem soo exiting to me anymore.. i mean what a few extra missions? a lawless place to do what??? same shit we do in stanton?? boring..

[@RoroYaKnow]

I’m excited to haul liquid lava back to Nyx for maximum profit.

[@JoeHarewood]

Thanks

[@Furnace2552-cz8iy]

Overall the new MFDs are great but the new speed display is super hard to read

[@philm325]

Prospector is a bastard child right now. MFD change is awful. Funny when you talk of bugs and show NOT being able to replace bags on it or the bags falling into ground in freight elevator. 😢

[@dasLumpi]

Hail to the Lamp!

[@defi5]

I have zero issues seeing absolutely nobody in the verse besides the people I actually want to see

[@bronxgaming4381]

Have they fixed the hurricane glass yet?

[@SirIsaacMewtonIII]

maybe when people stop buying ships eventually they'll decide to actually work on the game, if the scam stops working then maybe they'll think "oh i guess we could actually finish this thing, we could make money that way....IF WE HAVE TO *grumble*"

[@amigo3284]

What MFD ships do not have their own? I know CIG said there are only a couple manufacturers that have their MFDs and the others are generic.

[@MineyM0]

Mike, I want you to know that I ALWAYS hit the "Like" button.

[@rupert456]

One of us! Shake that salt shaker!

[@CptCarbon]

is it correct that you can't control on the Corsair all 4 forward weapons anymore? So that pilot only can fire 2 weapons and Copilot has to fire the other two? That would be just stupid... because Copilot has to control the upper turret

[@anobaly]

yes, it's true.

[@danhtown1]

3.24 is called Cargo Empires but it’s completely broken. So what do they do? Don’t address it at all. What else is new though

[@amigo3284]

The new code will.

[@danhtown1]

@@amigo3284 I hope so

[@amigo3284]

@@danhtown1 me too, they have a lot of legacy code to overwrite. And 3.24.2 is a good chunk of that.

[@stepstv4466]

Jumping a Jumppoint costs fuel? Why would it? Its basically a wormhole it connects two parts of space ?

[@Kylliian]

Because it still uses your quantum drive to propel you at speed in said wormhole that you will have to actively navigate? Legit it was explained that your QT has to tune to the Wormhole to even use it, so in theory...if my QT drive has to activate and attune...then it should use fuel to propel me through said wormhole. They aren't being treated as instantaneous forms of travel.

[@psychokevv]

When will I no longer be stuck in ladder animations "all this and more in 2024"

[@yous2244]

Haven't really played much since MM came out. Tried cargo for an hour but just made 15k so I just left it.

[@Dac85]

Holograms on misc mining ships is kind of antithetical to their entire rugged design

[@Falenir]

Nice videos, you earned a sub today sir. Not for the content as much as youve proven that you can still be positive inspite of the occasional leanings towards the hate waggon.

[@toyahinata]

Hey Mike

[@Ha1rD1aper]

i'm alright with seeing some of the same animals or variations of on some of the other planets. most of the planets in UEE space a terraformed and doing so requires a working ecosystem, which is why the animals are supposed to be bioengineered. so, makes sense... if i remember right, humans are the only species in SC lore that terraform planets, which would mean those animals would be much less common in alien systems. however, cross contamination doesn't seem to sound like a huge worry in SC, so who knows... although, still don't think "MMO" is the best way to go about SC. it is an MMO, so you shouldn't have to try to make it into an "MMO". like, regardless of the 1000 other people in the lobby, every one of those 1000 people are having a first person experience. it's just making sure a lot of those experiences also translate to group experiences. i.e. meeting twitch is fine solo, and so are most of her contracts, but meeting her in a group has no meaningful impact, doing contracts in groups has little meaningful impact (especially with NURSA respawns), there are no actual narrative based group contracts reminiscent of Lester giving team members objectives and roles in a planning room, no questlines with epic conclusions, rep, and meaningful loot rewards, etc... the big thing that i'd like to see is the "Inspect bug" to return as a feature to allow giving of items hand to hand without using an inventory or the floor. if it's a activate on character option, like party invites, then no permission issue. as far as larger amounts of items that might imply the need for a player trade window, the only real issue is transferring ownership, if there is. just giving a box for money through the trader app would be the objective ideal. although, something might need to be added to it. player trade windows are so cliche they make me cringe, tho. should try to do something more original and fitting of SC.

[@jonasion]

Pls! Would you comment or make a separate video(s) on Avenger 1's criticism of 1) MM, 2) new MFDs and their visibility, and finally 3) the removal of joystick 2-step firing option. I'm a sidelined SC concierge without the desire to dogfight as my main, but I find A1's perspective correct and CIGs behavior to be ... Ignorant at best and arrogant at worst. I find that he is not listed to, and more over, most feedback they get as to the new MM. It is getting very convoluted it seems. Your take? I know you briefly touch in these in this video, but I am beginning to get the feeling that SC is not going in the right direction. That they are building something which many of us were told would not be built, and now they are watering it down. I feel that their focus is on food and water sim, and then flight/fight is arcade, and then FPS is again more competitive. What's the state of the direction of the game? What will get it seems, judging based on the current trends?

[@SaltEMike]

I can’t comment on MM cause it’s not an aspect of the game I really engage with. I just fly from one spot to the next mainly. I kind of stay out of things I have no clue about.

[@papaprovnik]

Avenger one is biased due to the fact that MM broke his fighting style of running away as soon as his shields are pinged. That's why he mainly flys the bucc so he can run away while his buddies dog pile on you

[@Cmdr_V]

​@@papaprovnik exactly this. He's by no means bad, but he should just accept he's not main character anymore lol

[@shippy1001]

I wouldn`t rely on AV1 or anyone that is "top dog PvPer" to dictate the state of the game or how should you feel about it. CIG is doing whatever they think its "best" business-wise, and I`m sorry to break it to you. Still, top PvPer`s are the worst for a game like SC, eats the playerbase slowly, because a regular player won`t be sitting playing SC 8hours a day getting better and better at it to the point of beating anyone with any ship, so the focus on "realism" is really heavy on development for a fraction of the playerbase, like SaltEmike said, they are gamefying the game, or making it arcade like you stated, it`s easier to do and easier to balance as well, and if we are going full realism, a single missile (regardless of size) would`ve taken down any ship but the biggest ones, it`s a videogame. It will always be a videogame, it just has some survival elements to keep your immersion, there`s no "final vision" of the game yet, CIG still developing SC and until we see 1.0 live, we won`t know exactly what this game really is going to be, we don`t know if we ever going to receive NPC AI Crewmates, or Point Defense Turrets or anything that could change the gameplay dynamic, the only truth we always have known is that for CIG this is a business, and they will monetize the living $h1t out of it. Just be honest with yourself, and realize that this might not be the game for you.

[@dex6147]

​@papaprovnik total strawman. He wants multicrew to actually work and for dogfights to be fun and skill based, that's it. MM sucks for anyone who has sticks or has played any other flight game. He's played SC everyday for a decade so IDK who knows more than him. If you actually watched his videos, you'd probably agree with all of his points. Too bad so many are biased against him because of toxic youtubers lieing about his opinions.

[@Unknown_Calrissian]

Mike 😳 you runnin low on salt again?! If you need a refill I still have a boatload of salt stashed in our discord 😜🤣 How's the pupper doing?

[@johnokean8216]

I’d like to make some major changes to my components, if ya know what I mean 😉

[@theorangeofallahpbuh1840]

No I don’t. Please explain.

[@fhart85]

😂

[@SaltEMike]

HUH

[@peachy7776]

SO when does this actually arrive to live? I hear so much news of good stuff being added and cool stuff being updated and go into live and there hasnt been an update in months.. because everything is on PTU or EVO 🙄 its stupid af man

[@joebaxter6895]

Stoked to hear you and LevelCap are teaming up again but is it going to be Live in the middle of the night US time or are you guys going to be reacting to the VOD?

[@SaltEMike]

Live

[@joebaxter6895]

@@SaltEMike You animals!! Better drink my coffee then.

[@Anonnymouse53]

Sniper rifles seem pretty much pointless with the kind of engagements we have right now. There is no on foot traversal in SC, you disembark as close as possible to a POI and then sprint inside 99% of the time. I guess there are reasons to use them in PvE, but it's pretty boring, even when AI NPCs are cracked - they just don't react to contact properly when they can't shoot back or see you. I don't think they'll be relevant for a very long time, we'll need places to use them where it isn't just one great big POI stuck in the middle of empty moon.

[@Cmdr_V]

I have been using them for hunting quests on micro tech. Works like a charm

[@jacobdoughty3528]

​@Cmdr_V you could use fists or a knife in hunting quests and it would work like a charm AI is so bad lol

[@Cmdr_V]

@@jacobdoughty3528 hit or miss , that doesn't make it invalid when it does work lol... Let go of the hate and maybe you can see clearly

[@jacobdoughty3528]

@Cmdr_V what hate? I was pointing out that AI is bad which is a fact. No hate here yoda

[@Cmdr_V]

@@jacobdoughty3528 haha I agree... But when they do work you won't wanna be too close to a doggo lol... Trust

[@jonathaneskew9878]

@SaltEMike would you mind mentioning/looking into the fact that the awesome ship flyby sounds have been utterly destroyed? go back and look at old videos of flybys and compare it to how light fighters sound now. much less meaty and not immersive at all. this and the change of skybox have me tilting my head.

[@RevTechh]

Skins in the picture look sick with the purple and green...in game...not so much

[@romanwiller2180]

That possible Argo vehicle, I could definitely see it being one of the base-building ground vehicles. Iirc there was a ground vehicle shown for very small buildings.

[@Nugget_Bucket]

its a cargo argo TRUCK!!

[@VoidingNixx]

Why are they wasting time trying to "balance" an unfinished & WIP game? Perhaps they should put everything into the game and get the game working great before worrying about balancing. I mean, who cares? Everything gets wiped constantly. There is no progression. You earn and keep nothing. I personally do not care if anything is balanced. Seems they spend most their time going back and forth on balancing stuff.

[@Tertion]

I totally agree. Fix what is broken before trying to balance it...

[@rain6353]

Because a vocal majority will have a complete panic attack at any and all changes, threaten to refund, etc. this alpha is treated like a game and the devs keep feeding into it. Just saw someone complain about the graphics and how the game looks older from the prior preview just yesterday! If their ships aren’t game ready asap, the tinfoil hats come on and the megaphones out.

[@VoidingNixx]

@@rain6353 I'm still waiting for a "game ready" ship.... that Hull-C is a joke. ;p

[@rb5029-h1i]

Because good balance is iterative. Test, balance, implement new feature based on previous two. Repeat. The first iterations can be huge and rough, but each iteration tends to go more smoothly and gives more data points to help future features and balance.

[@KennethBrownIII]

My bet on the sneak peek is that the Argo orange is a misdirect and it's the Origin ground vehicle.

[@olil8466]

Awesomes

[@zhapes]

Evangelion Skins XD

[@Randaddy25]

Developing this game for consoles is gonna ruin it for PC gamers. We'll immediately be put on the back burner for our issues. Watch. Side note: My home spawn ASOP and ATC have been broken for 3 weeks now. And as of yesterday, add NB TDD to that list. I sure hope they resolve these issues soon. It really ruins the gameplay when you can't go places. I also have no access to my subscriber freebies, as Area 18 is my home spawn.

[@aguy446]

Star citizen mobile! Premium coins! Battle pass!

[@lumarious]

Did they actually say they're gonna release on consoles? I thought that was always NOT going to happen?

[@aguy446]

@lumarious No it's just that all the recent changes seem to be for making the game console friendly

[@Randaddy25]

@@lumarious I don't think they've openly said it, but I can't help but think that if they wanna maximize profits, they'll need to release for consoles. I could be very wrong and I hope I am.

[@ronniecole138]

@@aguy446I think it’s more new player friendly. So those of us that have backed the game for years get fucked and now a guy that has played for a week has a really good chance to win a dog fight.

[@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n]

I cant believe how dumb this game is. Its actually entertaining in that aspect

[@szymonlaskowski166]

+1

[@onicogrant]

I'm disappointed with the game man.. I feel like everything that is fun to do in the game they want to nerf.. If you like to salvage panels bc you can make $$$ they take out the game or make it real slow and fucking boring so u don't want to do it anymore.. and btw it was already slow and boring but I liked it.. if you like to do missions where u kill a bunch of NPCs and take their armors with you they take it out game by eliminating ship storage I mean damn!!!

[@louieavi]

As I sit with a 3.24.1 "We are unable to process your request" message when calling up a ship I have a VERY hard time in having faith with CIG in 2024.

[@GeorgeFloyd2]

literally go to another outpost and stop crying

[@louieavi]

@@GeorgeFloyd2 no ship loads and I cant get to my hanger. Multi logins tried to different regions (USA, Asia, Best, etc). I have not tried getting a rideo to another location but your advice of stop crying is not helpful.

[@5h4ndt]

Instead of doing more with MM, just trash it. It's dogshit. Improve the old one. It's far superior to the clown modes we have now.

[@younboyce7068]

No one cool plays this game anymore

[@matthewadams8175]

Yo yo I feel like i haven't seen a saulty mike video apart from your pod cast for a week , is all ok

[@SaltEMike]

Cause you haven’t been busy training this puppy. And dealing with hurricanes

[@ScottZupek]

all of this is to con lawyers from suing the crap out of them for selling JPEG/a scam idea

[@ScottZupek]

They keep reworking systems because they can't fix the #1 problem that makes this a tech demo. There is not enough technical bandwidth to achieve what they sold ya. They were FULLY aware about this even BEFORE the kick starter.

[@vicsid9606]

I agree about citcon and feel CIG has made a lot of progress in the last 6 months. I am with-holding judgment on master modes until they say the flight model and flight combat is done.

[@haydenbsiegel]

All the 400i updates make me want to switch back to it. I melted for a 600i because it has blunts in the captain's room. Maybe the rework will get a bong. Anyway, I miss my 400i sometimes. It was a very well built ship.

[@Atheica-Atheismos]

18:25 Are you really defending Yogi? After screwing up everything he could in this game? Looks like SaltEMike is dead & SweetEMike was born….

[@SaltEMike]

No, I’m not defending but the hate he gets should be directed above him.

[@Atheica-Atheismos]

@@SaltEMike OK

[@jonathaneskew9878]

@@Atheica-Atheismos Hes definitely following CRs orders for the most part

[@sonic-factory]

The game is a joke now.

[@jakeramp1]

If you are concerned about impulse buys this citcon, buy a ninja slushi instead. Even if you regret it: it works, has resell value, and can get you drunk.

[@SleepyFl0wer]

You really cried about the color of a weapon 😂😂😂😂just enjoy it and stop complaining reds sick