SaltEMike Reacts to Star Citizen's April Monthly Report

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SaltEMike Reacts

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@Stellar-Nucleosynthesis 4 ай бұрын

I got to experience the kopion attacking NPC's at Ghost Hollow with no lag or desync, it was actually cool.

@Verinia 4 ай бұрын

So much is always in preproduction. It doesn't mean anything. I am also in preproduction for the next great American novel, but until I write the damn thing I have nothing.

@bens4096 4 ай бұрын

I’d like to buy a gif of your novel please.

@mayoluck 4 ай бұрын

I want a 50 pack please...

@Keithsciguy 4 ай бұрын

And every week show us a new cover art but with characters we'll never read about...

@GhostOfSnuffles 4 ай бұрын

Is their a concierge package for the novel?

@Jeremy_Walker 4 ай бұрын

If they actually told the objective truth a lot of people wouldn't stay engaged and buy ships.

@arki9498 4 ай бұрын

There's a real chance it'll be another 3.17 year where there's practically one patch in the year and it gets strung along with mini patches for the next 6 months.

@msihcs8171 4 ай бұрын

That would be a good thing, iirc 3.17 after a few .x patches ended up REALLY stable

@AnEmortalKid 4 ай бұрын

It’s all practically one patch if you think of it that way, but every change set alters the base so really It isnt just one patch

@Gofr5 4 ай бұрын

Cargo hauling missions! FINALLY! I've been waiting for proper hauling missions since my freelancer first went flyable ages ago. Better late than never.

@bluexgreen1 4 ай бұрын

Legionnaire really needs deployable cover. Halo: CE in the first mission had enemy boarding pods without cover; toss in a grenade and laugh. Those made for some of the easiest kills in the game. I don't think players would appreciate experiencing the receiving end of that.

@romanwiller2180 4 ай бұрын

I don’t think the problem with 3.23 was the amount of new features, I think it was the massive scope of the changes. They have effectively taken 50% or so of the current game and updated it with new stuff. I think if they took the same amount of people and only focused on the mobiglass and MM, they would have completed all of it without a problem. Effectively they just cast too wide a net

@Dorm_ 4 ай бұрын

They always do this, with everything. I wish they would release a patch and tell us after what that patch is all about, instead of teasing us for 7 months multiple times a week, that way when 3.23 would release it would be new to all of us. Now I do not have any interest in playing. Maybe i will try when personal hangar comes in just to see how thehy will be.

@CitizenScott 4 ай бұрын

Okay, but they've always said they take the time to do things systemically at first to make it all simpler in the future. Do you see that happening at all? That's the where a lot of the valid frustration comes from.

@RN1441 4 ай бұрын

@5:30 When you're saying that the reason 3.23 has turned out so bad is because there was 'too much stuff and they couldn't handle it', I think there's a more nuanced way of describing it. Look down the list of stuff and a lot of it was padded visual fluff like 'a crosshair that points where you are actually aiming' that made the list look long. As usual though they're doing great on graphical changes like making mobiglass slightly less hard to read, getting close to a working star map, functional looting screens, and even art assets for locations like those cargo centres isolated in the middle of nowhere, but the actual games systems advances are limited to fuse swapping at present. In summary, it's still a big patch FOR CIG, but as usual with CIG their efforts are mostly towards the flash, while substance struggles.

@Jeremy_Walker 4 ай бұрын

I am a big supporter of the project. Been around over 10 years, and I'll continue to support the project until I don't. There are parts of SC that are incredibly fun. That said, they haven't shown me anything that makes me even remotely confident they can make this into something that's not a mess. The game generates too much data to efficiently process on server and on net. I'm sure server meshing will help, but it's not going to magically make the experience acceptably smooth. For fks sake we are looking at a 15 year plus development timeframe, and we don't really know what anything is actually going to look like. Everybody just imagines it's going to be what they want. I really wish they'd get real on some of these fantasies and give an honest review of what they can and cannot do in a reasonable amount of time. Quit stringing people along with bullshit they know they can't do- well at least. --Remember this is the same company that flat out faked a sandworm... had vertical slices of SQ42 in what 2018... have near initial concept ships that are nowhere in sight... they will tell a tale to keep people excited and spending. Hope they make it all happen to the majorities expectations.

@Billy-bc8pk 4 ай бұрын

They can't tell people what a "reasonable amount of time" is because they literally do not know. They had to R&D half a dozen brand new networking technologies that literally did not exist anywhere in the software industry to scale until CIG made them. How long did that take them? Eight years. Why? because some of what they thought would work did not. How were they supposed to know some of what they researched did not or would not scale? It's not stringing people along, it's called software engineering, and when you are working on technologies with no blueprint, there is no way to tell anyone exctly when anything will be done if they don't know how long it's going to take to make and scale it. And all they have are estimates, and whenever they give anyone estimates people get angry because the estimates aren't "accurate", which is precisely why no company gives the public estimates about R&D they're working on and why it's so kept under wraps with NDAs.

@Jeremy_Walker 4 ай бұрын

@@Billy-bc8pk Thank you for your thoughts. SQ42 has how many of these technologies? It’s been the same story there. I can appreciate the difficulty of some of what they are doing. I feel it’s a real disingenuous play to hype shit up all the time - almost there… just around the corner. Heard that same lame ass story for over a decade.

@Billy-bc8pk 4 ай бұрын

@@Jeremy_Walker SQ42's success directly impacts Star Citizen -- and as many more reasonable content creators have explained, even if they released SQ42 back in 2016, the PU was not in a state for public consumption. CIG would have ruined their own reputation as people would have played SQ42, and then become disappointed with the broken and buggy PU. They need the PU in a solid beta state for SQ42's launch, because a bunch of top creators have already said they are planning on playing/streaming it. What do you think many people will do once they finish the SQ42 campaign? Carry their character over to the PU. And if the PU is a broken, buggy, incomplete state, what do you think that will do to the general perception of the project and its future success?

@Jeremy_Walker 4 ай бұрын

@@Billy-bc8pk That makes sense. It's not so much the underlying why they are doing things, more so the representation. If they were truly upfront with things and not selectively upfront it'd be easier to fully support. I also get their dilemma. They must keep people engaged and buying ships to keep the doors open- which leads to over promising and selective misleading. CIG execs know damn well what is in the realm of probability and what is not. They are more willing to BS and be purposefully vague to keep funding than to risk being truly upfront. It's a tactic not accidental. That's that biggest thing- Love the concept of the project, but have huge mixed feelings about the management.

@Billy-bc8pk 4 ай бұрын

@@Jeremy_Walker That's partially true. The other problem is that -- as evident by the general public's reaction to anytime CIG announces delays for any reason -- most people cannot handle the truth. In fact, they just announced that freight elevators would be delayed to a point patch because stability was not where it needed to be and instability of the freight elevators meant no one could play the game at all because the hangars were not working, so what did most of the commenters do? Rant and rave and complain about CIG breaking promises, that 3.23 is worthless without freight elevators, and that the feature is never coming. Even though it's delayed by a few weeks. You have to realistically ask yourself, as management, and trying to bring this behemoth project across the finish line, just how honest should you be with the general public when places like Polygon/Kotaku and various content creators and plenty of redditors are ready to call the project a "scam" due to delays or rally a group to pull funding like they did back between 2015 and 2017? Be honest, if you were in charge of the project, what would you honestly tell the publicly when dealing with delays and setbacks, or R&D hurdles, especially when outlets are ready to rip you a new one for it?

@angepano8591 4 ай бұрын

I found the Marok movement to be well done but the Kopions (lol - named so that you just Cope for now) are stuck to the ground. My guess is that the Kopion AI has more complexity therefore server performance jams them up and not the simple Maroks. Missions with 'OR' = JT box delivery, and one of the mission givers at Levski you could double cross by delivering items to another place when Ruto contacted you.

@KildalSC 4 ай бұрын

4.0 w/Pyro targeted for summer is the last official thing we've heard. I thought meshing tests went super well. For me Pyro doesn't need to be super dense on first iteration, so I can see them accomplishing their goal. Sounds like they might want maelstrom in 4.0 though, and I can guess bounty hunter v2, EVA push/pull and other more technically challenging features could be planned. I do kind of agree 3.23 was too big, I hope they focus on a good work environment and not on meeting unreasonable deadlines planned out earlier this year through dev crunching.

@aimlis 4 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised by a 3.24. Even if its relatively light on features but builds on the server meshing and replication layer prior to the push to 4.0. What we have now just doesn't seem up to the task of handling 4.0.

@heru_ur6017 4 ай бұрын

There will be a 3.24 and a 3.25 before they announce tbe delay of 4.0

@jaracrassen7902 4 ай бұрын

My guess is that 3.23 and its .x patches are what we will be on for the rest of the year. The goal will really be to get 4.0 out in time for IAE. So November-ish. That's likely their goal, but will they hit it? We'll see.

@Atljeepboy 4 ай бұрын

The box missions used to offer the choice of collecting 1 or 3 and then also where to deliver them

@TairnKA 4 ай бұрын

At 15:32; is the RAFT setup to carry the upper or lower container? A RAFT should be able to carry both, stacked as shown (six containers versus three), only in space. ;-) I have suggested in "Game Ideas" that an RAFT should be able to carry six containers versus just three, but only in space. There's so many items not mentioned due to low priority, ie: "Ship Naming", that it would be nice to know their still on the docket?

@UnderdogSMO 4 ай бұрын

I think and I may be wrong but the fundamental foundations of the 4.0 build are themself entirely different then what we have in any of the 3.X builds and what there doing with that internally and whats working on it is just enharently different then the Jerry Rigged live builds we play now. because the piece meal slap together PU we get is Not how you develop a game, you don't make it one piece at a time and then try to use tie downs to stap it on were ever it will fit and hope it doesn't pop off, not for a final product anyway. that's not to say it wont be buggy or broken I suspect it will just be more cohesive, as its being built for/with its proper foundational tech.

@bradleyhayday8862 4 ай бұрын

I know it's a dangerous game to play with CIG but.... I'm really hoping to see the polaris at Invictus. In Feb the exterior was on LOD0 and the interior nearing greybox review. They'll have had all of March and April and they claimed it was their main focus. With it no longer appearing on the monthly reports I think they're gearing up for a surprise launch at Invictus as a big new sale ship

@CitizenScott 4 ай бұрын

15:31 My exact reaction lol

@CodeR3d911 4 ай бұрын

I bet thr Polaris and the Idrs will be at Invictus, but they will only be demo's for us to walk through and look at. I believe the Polaris will be flight-ready at Citcon. I can only hope though.

@havocnchaos 4 ай бұрын

4.0 mentioned alot...

@Billy-bc8pk 4 ай бұрын

According to Zyloh, they're trying to get 3.23 out of the way so they can start on 4.0 features.

@antoniovinciguerra8982 4 ай бұрын

Only two major patches this year? Could be great for stability (3.17 times) or could be terrible (3.18), it all depends…

@Lordparable 4 ай бұрын

my opinion has arrived

@johnofthemasters 4 ай бұрын

as an audiophile, their audio queues and production are exceptionally good. one of my favorite things about SC.

@sodiufas 4 ай бұрын

We have audio bugs not fixed for 5 years... IDK what they are doing at this point.

@MWTGoldenGun 4 ай бұрын

The audio is terrible

@BoatLoadsofDope 4 ай бұрын

Then you're not a very committed one, SC has terrible audio design. Take notice next time you hear footsteps, you really can't make out where they're coming from.

@swaroopr34 4 ай бұрын

Constellation’s sound is gone bro it sounds worse than washing machine now that alone is bad

@johnofthemasters 4 ай бұрын

3.22 sure.

@tullan1652 4 ай бұрын

Hopefully 4.0 is after 3.23.x. Would be great with the meshing hurdle out of the way. I just hope there are many patches between 4.0 and 1.0. Tons of stuff still needs added and finished before they call it released.

@sinisadovijanic 4 ай бұрын

jesus I have more hours watching videos about SC than playing SC

@Juice1286 4 ай бұрын

Same. And it's all mike and space tomato specifically

@yous2244 4 ай бұрын

Same, Space Tomato, SalteMike, Olli43 and Morph

@Citizen-Nurseman 4 ай бұрын

the utility armour will be aesthetic only, mark my words.

@angelarch5352 4 ай бұрын

yes on 3.24

@juanecheyt 4 ай бұрын

The only AI i care about right now, is AI crews.... i hope they do that because engineering virtually killed my large ships.

@Dorm_ 4 ай бұрын

Things are moving so slowly, they are teasing us since November every week with all the fancy new tech and shit we are supposed to get very soon! but we still have nothing?! Other games release gameplay frequently with much less devs on their team, and at a quality that is much higher! I am taking a break, a long one again until shit is improved and gameplay means anything.

@Jeremy_Walker 4 ай бұрын

It's been the same story since 2014 lol.

@illgottengains1314 4 ай бұрын

Grow up

@Jeremy_Walker 4 ай бұрын

@@illgottengains1314 More specifics please.

@robertchandler2063 4 ай бұрын

That and citcon 4.0 will be a big push.

@MooneShadow 4 ай бұрын

Hmmm at least we know quanta is sill being mentioned.

@christophemilon4114 4 ай бұрын

You say you're not happy with 4.0 is the next patch because the game will be broken with too much feature added. I understand your point of view because you are a streamer and active player. But you need to understand that they need to deliver feature fast in order to complete the game, even if it means that the game is broken. The fact that they have to maintain an stable alpha is probably the main reason why the game takes so much Time to be made. --> most of the backer are not playing the game, they just wait for a "finished" mvp product. You, are an active streamer, are biased on this topic. I think you need to know it when you analyse CIG décision making

@GhostOfSnuffles 4 ай бұрын

Man. Remember when 9+ years ago how everyone so was excited that they'd have a complete game to play in only a few years? And now you guys are here all this time later and so far into the alpha build zone the games alpha has and alpha and the best you can hope for is a patch that doesn't break more then it fixes.

@Billy-bc8pk 4 ай бұрын

A game to play 'only a few years" in development is how you end up with rushed, low-quality content like Starfield.

@GhostOfSnuffles 4 ай бұрын

@@Billy-bc8pk Well the game they have now has less content then starfield and worse performance. As bad as Starfield is (and it is a bad game) it's still is more feature complete and performance friendly.

@Billy-bc8pk 4 ай бұрын

@@GhostOfSnuffles There is no salvage in Starfield, there is no multiplayer in Starfield, still no ground vehicles, no grav-lev vehicles, no investiation missions, no physicalised cargo, no prison loop, no racing missions, no unique settlements, no atmospheric flight, and no space EVA. So how does it have more content if it has less features and mechanics? Or do you count grinding the same fetch-quests as more content?

@Gunnberg85 4 ай бұрын

Someone has to be writing a psychology paper on this.

@GhostOfSnuffles 4 ай бұрын

@@Billy-bc8pk Cool, a list of promised features that don't work and a bunch of .JPG's of features that will never be added, cool story, thanks for wasting everyone's time. I'm not going to respond to you anymore. Have fun yelling at the sky.

@elderlight 4 ай бұрын

how many millions of dollars and they struggle to add one creature

@toyahinata 4 ай бұрын

open your wallets peps, 4.0 time xd

@IamAlpharius30k 4 ай бұрын

POLARIS????

@Tyrant05 4 ай бұрын

🎉🎉🎉

@fearstare 4 ай бұрын

I forgive u

@jalopp42 4 ай бұрын

4.0 this year... Doubt

@5h4ndt 4 ай бұрын

The only thing I believe is them changing the contents of 4.0 and delivering that.

@Paralox_ 4 ай бұрын

4.0 as next patch so IAE rush? /s

@MikeComedies 4 ай бұрын

As the third person to comment. I would like to say. HI! and where is 3.23 Live?

@Thearmiktz 4 ай бұрын

In EPTU and it must stay that way till it's on a playable state. Some ships have atmosphere problems, the distribution centers sometimes are just a texture, a big percentage of the testers have been struggling finishing any cargo stuff or missions, the docking collars aren't working properly, etc... Don't push it, I've seen my fair share of trash patches just because of deadlines.