Salvation in Islam & Christianity: Which is Better? | LIVE DISCUSSION | Christian VS Muslims

[@faatiokodoro]

Where is the answer the brother originally asked? See how the multiple Islamic scholars manipulated the question as they tweaked it and twitched it to be on Jesus deity while the brother was asking for salvation in Islam I wonder where is SALVATION in islam

[@christanshed2163]

Faati Okodoro wonderful observation. They were looking for an escape and they did that by wasting time and reverse psychology

[@sheikhnoorulla2350]

Masha Allah, enlightening explanation.

[@christanshed2163]

Sheikh Noorulla really? With that struggle that even the moderator and friend had to help yet still in vain? I think clear study is needed

[@herbertlewis1706]

These Muslims are ignorant. Jesus is not dead but alive. Only his human nature was born not his deity. These bigoted Muslims have understanding of The Trinity and the Incarnation. They are bias

[@liudvikas6534]

Not to insult anyone, but muslims in the vid misreprented christianity massively.

[@JobBays-r8n]

yes that is true.

[@rjjs1244]

If the NT is quote on quote corrupt let's look at the OT... Isaiah 64:4 Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah is saying that our righteousness is worth nothing in the sight of the Lord, if you do not repent. In those days they needed to make a sacrifice to be forgiven. For more read the book of Leviticus. I want to point out in chapter 15:15 and the priest shall offer them, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. So the priest shall make atonement on his behalf before the Lord because of his discharge. God user the priest for this task, reason being because they were only and it was there role. However because that we all are sinner in nature they too sinned, and whenever they sin they sacrifice a burnt offering to the Lord for forgiveness. All of this is a parallel for the great sacrifice to come in Jesus. He was the lamb to be sacrificed so that he will Carry the world's sins on his shoulders. Because Jesus lived righteously with no sin he was the right person for the task unlike the old covenant/ testament whereby the priest themselves need to make burnt sacrifice for their sins. God knew that this will not work out so he had a plan to send Jesus and through Him we are saved. After being saved the our good deeds and faith will look worthy and just in the sight of the Lord.

[@HussainFahmy]

Masha'Allah, 1+1+1=1 beautifully explained. Logic is never a strong method for the non Muslims.

[@717taylor6]

We can't calculate God as the way we calculate math. This not the best answer which I am going to give you now. but this is some how the nearest answer that you might sense it. Here, when the water is over low heat, it is call Ice but when it is to hot and evaporated, it is Spirit or cloud and when it is melted, it is water. I should not compare to God with things but I just want you to understand. The Bible says those who has ear let them hear. May Holy Spirit let you understand. Thank you for reading this.

[@christanshed2163]

Hussain Fahmy حسين فحمي I would really say that a lot is missing in all those explanations because if the guy asking was fast with his words, that scholar would have fainted had because his struggles were vivid

[@protestantmezmurcollection2804]

allah + quran= 2 pegan

[@MakaiJohnkenneth]

In Quran 2+4+2=6 if you know Quran find out. Now you speak in clear ignorance. You have never known why God in the bible manifests himself in creation and that creation speaks and dies things God does like in Quran Allah was in the fire surah 28 Allah spoke from the tree surah 27 Allah manifested at the mountain side Surah 7 Allah is carried on a throne by 8 angels

[@aaronsteele8301]

Animals are not payment for sin they are to show loyalty ans obedience towards God some sins require sacrifice people where being forgiven for thousands of years simply thru asking being kind genuinely doing good and forgiving others only this forgives you of your sin

[@christanshed2163]

The World At Large Podcast I think what u need is to reread the sacrificial laws of Moses, and the levitical laws as well. There is something called Yom Kippur. Start from that and u will discover that elders would lay hands on a sacrificial lamb to transfer the sins of the congregation to the lamb and thruout that year, people would be considered forgiven. Then read Isaiah 53, Heb 8 and 9. They will help

[@rodriquenongkynrih6665]

‘My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken me’ said by Jesus because it was the day that the Father could see again to his children (sinners that had been wash by the blood of Christ) instead of seeing his begotten son (Jesus).

[@Cashew10]

*SALVATION* ISLAM & Judaism (NO human sacrifice) VS CHRISTIANITY (human sacrifice with blood) *In Islam and Judaism,* God saves humans without violence & blood.* God doesn't need human sacrifice like in Christianity. In the Old Testament, God is not born and will never die, and God strongly prohibits human sacrifice, since it's a pagan and witch practice (Leviticus, Jeremiah, etc). In other words: *In Islam & Judaism,* salvation is given by God* through humans' believing in God the Creator, and then followed by doing good deeds, stay away from sins, and if committing sins, Muslims & Jews have to repent (Isaiah, etc). Animal burnt offerings was not the most important. *In Christianity: God saved humans through violence;* Jesus' soul and blood. (If Jesus died with no blood, let say he was sick, there was no salvation then). After believing Jesus died as sacrifice to redeem people's sin, Christians also have to stay away from sins, and if committing sins, Christians have to repent.

[@aaronsteele8301]

So God send god to earth and told God to commit suicide so God on earth can do what god in heaven had no power to do? How I the God who told God on earth who wss one with him to sacrifice himself wouldn't god br killing himself. And how did God raise him from the dead of God just died?

[@christanshed2163]

It doesn't make sense when it is actually seen and interpreted with limited human brain. But using scriptures right from start, u will see that there was reason and processes that made everything possible as God is indeed All-powerful. He did what He promised

[@willwb7104]

Mr. is avoiding to give the question answer. Its Gods matter to make a plan for save all human being.

[@Cashew10]

*SALVATION* ISLAM & Judaism (NO human sacrifice) VS CHRISTIANITY (human sacrifice with blood) *In Islam and Judaism,* God saves humans without violence & blood.* God doesn't need human sacrifice like in Christianity. In the Old Testament, God is not born and will never die, and God strongly prohibits human sacrifice, since it's a pagan and witch practice (Leviticus, Jeremiah, etc). In other words: *In Islam & Judaism,* salvation is given by God* through humans' believing in God the Creator, and then followed by doing good deeds, stay away from sins, and if committing sins, Muslims & Jews have to repent (Isaiah, etc). Animal burnt offerings was not the most important. *In Christianity: God saved humans through violence;* Jesus' soul and blood. (If Jesus died with no blood, let say he was sick, there was no salvation then). After believing Jesus died as sacrifice to redeem people's sin, Christians also have to stay away from sins, and if committing sins, Christians have to repent.

[@willwb7104]

Jesus Christ is orderly plan by God himself for salvation for all mankind. Mr. statement is not a strongly and constructive discussion. i think he is need to gather first a knowledge than come for the discussion. Regarding Joah, Jonah was inside the fish 3 night and 3 days. Now question is, did Jonah's life possible to survive in fish belly? I think shek is proving his poor knowledge.

[@vilmarjohns.irigan60]

Triune god exists in the old testament in Genesis..

[@christanshed2163]

There is a problem with the people u met sheikh. U met people that do not know the faith of Christianity and you all get drowned in the same sea of darkness. We were adopted into God's family as sons and we are all joint-heirs with Christ and we MADE pure with imputed righteousness. We need not scholars to clarify what we should believe in scriptures. Trinity is not even in new texts but its proved in scriptures. That guy asking has better knowledge that all whom he asked. I think Muslims should really read well both the Bible and Quoran to understand their doctrine. Thank questioner he has helped these guys

[@jaketwigg1065]

Muhammad was prophecised in the bible

[@thraxhippiearchive6294]

What if your a sinner he says we are all clean but this man knows he has sinned

[@christanshed2163]

You deny the guy a chance to answer back. God did not kill one of His sons, He wanted to gain us as sons and He did that by willingly cleansing them. Heb 2:9-11. Jesus was not forced , He predicted Hiis death more than 10 times. But very good answer from that man. There is no such religion that says you are clear, Quoran says that man is hasty in Nature

[@rjjs1244]

If the NT is quote on quote corrupt let's look at the OT... Isaiah 64:4 Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah is saying that our righteousness is worth nothing in the sight of the Lord, if you do not repent. In those days they needed to make a sacrifice to be forgiven. For more read the book of Leviticus. I want to point out in chapter 15:15 and the priest shall offer them, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. So the priest shall make atonement on his behalf before the Lord because of his discharge. God user the priest for this task, reason being because they were only and it was there role. However because that we all are sinner in nature they too sinned, and whenever they sin they sacrifice a burnt offering to the Lord for forgiveness. All of this is a parallel for the great sacrifice to come in Jesus. He was the lamb to be sacrificed so that he will Carry the world's sins on his shoulders. Because Jesus lived righteously with no sin he was the right person for the task unlike the old covenant/ testament whereby the priest themselves need to make burnt sacrifice for their sins. God knew that this will not work out so he had a plan to send Jesus and through Him we are saved. After being saved the our good deeds and faith will look worthy and just in the sight of the Lord.

[@rodriquenongkynrih6665]

Christian go directly to God through God(Jesus) but Muslim Go to God through prophet and teacher like you….

[@abunusaybah1058]

Christian's pray to Jesus (not God!) Through Paul.. Muslims pray and ask directly God.. NO INTERMEDIARIES!

[@saylorgrey1029]

@@abunusaybah1058 Um what? You literally made that up. Since when do Christians pray through Paul???💀

[@abunusaybah1058]

@@saylorgrey1029 Since the Day Paul founded and invented the blasphemous doctrine of Christianity, to worship Prophet Jesus (pbuh) as God, this is how you worship Jesus (pbuh) through Paul!! Ironically you say I made it up yet your whole Christianity is made up!

[@kishordas2300]

Actual salvation Means not enter heaven,hell.salvation means our soul exit time and space and enter supreme soul(God Allah Bhagwan)

[@Cashew10]

Muslim can prove it in the afterlife because soul and body will be reunited again. That's why in Heaven we can feel happines, both physically and mentally. But how will Hindus or Budhis know that their soul is free and enter supreme soul? How to prove it?

[@christanshed2163]

Allah doesn't say that, it is a lie. Don't force a man to believe what is a lie. Islam does not make sense in that way. I think there is a better Muslim apologetic to listen to than these. Misunderstanding the scriptures. By the way Allah doesn't understand Christianity and the God of the Bible

[@willwb7104]

there is no any assurance of Salvation in Islam or in Quran.

[@protestantmezmurcollection2804]

yes, practic jihad

[@zillionexre2936]

Our salvation is the mercy of Allah.

[@ClassyElegant]

@@zillionexre2936 ao of hes not merciful unto you you're doomed? Why not come to Jesus who has already paid the price. What can a man who died of poisoning and hated people do for you?

[@zillionexre2936]

@@ClassyElegant the bible says to not get fooled, that unrepented sinners still need to repent.

[@kyrptonite1825]

Well, some strains of Protestantism say you are once saved always saved, but before that, Catholicism taught you aren’t and continues to teach that

[@dwelingcreative7147]

Your answer not reprentation all the question. Why you just explain about bible except about salvation that muhamad gave to muslim.

[@muslimsoldier8012]

They have a God that Roman's killed him 😐😐😐 and remember 3 is 1 not 3

[@jonsart5643]

Romans did not kill Him, Jesus laid His life as a sacrifice, and He rose from the dead after 3 days.

[@shanthikumar6219]

what a brainless answer is that God makes a sinner holy simply by telling you are innocent, sinner mean who offended, damaged other fellow brother, how can he forgive without satisfying victim.

[@maxxam3590]

Exactly. This is a central, basic flaw with Christianity. I don't believe in Islam either, but certainly there's a flaw with Christian thinking.

[@maxxam3590]

@Tiffanie Gee What sacrifice?

[@maxxam3590]

@Tiffanie Gee So, Jesus is dead?

[@maxxam3590]

@Tiffanie Gee So he's not dead? Then I ask again, what sacrifice? I've studied the Bible since 1988, and I used to believe in it. I was a serious Christian for decades. I know the stories. They're just stories. But even if you consider these sotires by their own narrative, there was no sacrifice. "Sacrifice" implies that you lose something, by definition. If Jesus isn't dead, then there was no sacrifice.

[@maxxam3590]

@Tiffanie Gee No. Sorry, but no. If he is alive, he didn't lose his life. Therefore there was no sacrifice.

[@protestantmezmurcollection2804]

ahah, what a clown. u twisted our scripture. jesus is speaking about lukwarm christian. hehhe taqiya.

[@user-mm5ri4sq9d]

This guy has no substance

[@GrazeHanwell36382]

It’s okay , if you don’t want to accept the mercy of GOD. The most merciful, then that’s up to you , enjoy your life 😊