Sam Altman's new $200 ChatGPT has a big Elon problem...

[@goodjob4449]

"It would be profoundly un-American to use political power, ..., to hurt your competitors and advantage your own business" - I beg to differ..

[@BlakeEM]

Regulatory capture is about the most American thing you can do. We literally invented it.

[@Kwazzaaap]

yeah that statement is so out of touch To people replying to me saying "it's sarcasm", like that doesn't make it out of touch, it's out of touch as sarcasm as much as it would be face value. Please stop, sarcasm doesn't absolve of you saying dumb stuff.

[@llamaelitista]

Yeah, actually that's the American way of doing business.

[@slartibartfast7921]

@@llamaelitista Every accusation is a confession.

[@Malenbolai]

sounds like begging

[@lheannelheannelheanne]

i think I'd just buy groceries with that much money

[@aerostorm_]

And those guys pay $200?? Maybe I'll get organic bananas this time... . hello

[@joaooliveirarocha]

Possibly a week's worth of groceries with these prices

[@mac2857]

@@joaooliveirarocha months here

[@normalchannel2185]

Yea, it mostly is aimed at those API big companies who use it to automate shit

[@xX_dash_Xx]

Those ritz arent gonna buy themselves ig

[@jonr4164]

Villain arc is most sucessful when the story is clear, this new spinoff has so many villains it is hard to keep up.

[@Reachad]

that's the neat part! they're all villains!

[@LuisSierra42]

They are at the very least complex characters

[@sayorancode]

@@LuisSierra42 yeah but its too hard to keep track of

[@proximacentaur1654]

Too many subplots unfolding this season. Give me simple antagonistic dualism.

[@CyanRooper]

I just want lewd fanservice like in anime, is that too much to ask?

[@hixer100]

$200 is not a subscription fee. It's basically a salary.

[@user-sl6gn1ss8p]

converted to many third-world currencies, it actually is.

[@BouVisal-w3v]

@@user-sl6gn1ss8p im earning 150 a month right now (:

[@saeedbarari2207]

unpopular opinion: i think its a fair price if it's as good as a real employee you could otherwise hire. This is obviously not for personal usage, but for businesses that are trying to cut costs but don't want to lose quality too much. But, if it's not really as useful as a real employee then I have no idea why anyone would pay for it...

[@bronson4574]

It has unlimited usage, it's for companies not personal use

[@Ahamshep]

Many people pay close to this for all the streaming services they signed up to.

[@ethair8975]

I still don't understand how a company can just chose to transition from a none profit to a for profit.

[@ArlindoBuriti]

is called a scam...

[@mpetrison3799]

You know how Sauron was forging 9 rings for men, 7 rings for dwarves, etc? And giving them away for free? Same thing.

[@squaidinkarts]

Yeah it's stupid. If a non-profit transition into a for-profit whenever they become successful, what's the flipping point?

[@gigamoment]

OpenAI was an organization. It's goal succeeded. They can't keep up anymore with large corporations and their huge investments. So they either go down or move to for-profit and keep up in the business.

[@Part_121_Wannabe]

it’s called economic freedom

[@karkarich722]

200$ to cover all free users

[@wekw]

me

[@ultravioletiris6241]

To cover GPU prices and openAI salaries

[@denizeralp1831]

Don't mention bing to them

[@Apurvanotfound]

Hi, im a a teenager from india and im in my last year of high school. I got accepted into multiple Mid universities for computer science in germany and a really good one in France... But french one is very expensive for me. But German University is practically free. So is it a good idea to go Germany or France.... Or is it better to stay back in india and attend a third class, low quality university? Also: i have few startup ideas and i would like to work on them? Which country is better?

[@sayorancode]

​@@Apurvanotfound germany is good for the lower cost ,but they can be a bit racist. and i am speaking as someone who was born in germany (i live in U.S now bc dad could only get a job as pilot in US bc he was born in US). idk about the french

[@sonkez6421]

All the while, Google is quietly plotting its comeback... with a more advanced UI!

[@Filipcorobivblenderi]

i just bursted out of laughter bro

[@hephestosthalays2700]

Actually at Google we're going to try more DEI and ESG

[@sligovolts]

It will be sunset before it the end of 2024.

[@Tarum4r.]

we are closer to UGI than ever before

[@Ryan-yh9ii]

Google is very close to leaping over OpenAI, their new 1206 exp model surpassed o1 in coding and general performance, not to mention being #1 in lmarena leaderboards...

[@onogrirwin]

I explained my personal situation to o1, and it advised me against paying $200 for a model with 1-5% advantages across the board, chiefly in reliability and math. So $20/month it is.

[@consciouscode8150]

It's going to suck when AI start being trained in advocating corporate interests. We're in a golden age now when doing that would let the competition get too far ahead with the wasted compute.

[@basedchad6035]

I think the 20 dollar a month is fair tbh.

[@Xialoh]

@@consciouscode8150 Eh, local LLMs are already a thing. Given a few years time I think we'll be able to easily set up personal offline open source AIs as advisors, without the bias and trained on some set of data tailor made for your own views.

[@Messmers_flame]

It really isn't 1-5% lol. It supports 128k context tokens compared to 32k on o1. I used it for 8 hours today with some prompts over 50k token and combined conversations going over 100k tokens. It is precise, very very low hallucinations and impressive. It thought for 6 minutes also in one case. O1 pro is insane. I am thankful it's 200$ so most people can't use it easily. I will be ahead of competition

[@norbertnagy5514]

Yeah, its literally not targeted at ordinary users. But if you are even a smaller company, 200$ is small change, and now you have unlimited usage instead of the 40 something prompt, its very good priced if we look at it that way

[@calibrono]

Using your political power to hurt a competitor? The most American thing there is lol.

[@ericfisher1360]

🙄

[@no-nukez]

…Are you suggesting that other countries’ governments don’t do this…? Is this the dumbest comment of 2024?

[@calibrono]

@ got a butthurt american here peeps

[@consciouscode8150]

And something Elon has already been caught doing recently - pushing for the removal of EV credits because it would hurt his competition more. Also suing California because their state EV credits aren't going to Tesla because they're... actively campaigning for the removal of federal EV credits.

[@NeoKailthas]

Haha also Sam is naive for believing Elon has any morals or principles

[@lollipopchat]

OpenAI Pro Max Ultra 2.0 - $499

[@hwapyongedouard]

who are you lolli ?

[@btp9576]

@@hwapyongedouard Samsung/Apple phone names

[@ああ-k7o9i]

All Toppings

[@maksimfedoryak]

2.0+ - 549.99$

[@leonardodeslf]

and only runs in iOS

[@potatocrispychip]

- fireship posted! - look inside - AI

[@shreyash1]

funny guy |-_-).-)-.:.-)

[@casperd2100]

good, need more

[@ProfShibe]

- fireship posted - look inside - no fires - no ships

[@numberM4]

@@ProfShibe There was a clip of a computer on fire in this video, does that count?

[@sino_diogenes]

No other field is advancing so quickly in any industry, so it's natural that a tech-focused channel would cover the most relevant tech news pretty often.

[@ebr__]

To me what is nonethical isn't the fact that a 200$ sub exists to increase OpenAI revenues, but the fact that this non-profit company changed its rules after receiving massive donations !

[@MrViki60]

You must be realistic about the costs of their operations, you can't run servers without paying the electricity bills.

[@overthr0w138]

​@@MrViki60non profit doesn't mean you have to do it for free, it means, that after all their expenses for infrastructure, salaries etc they can't just bank the profits for themselves

[@br2716]

@@MrViki60 You're an absolute blockhead.

[@JamesSmith-df4pb]

@@MrViki60 remember when openai said gpt 2 was too dangerous to release? 3 years later they released chatgpt for everyone for free... after chatgpt they completely 180'ed not only their business structure but also their core ideals

[@traveller23e]

@@MrViki60 Being realistic, none of these generative AI companies make sense. The results are not great and are slow and energy-intensive to compute. Now regarding a non-profit getting lots of donations and then switching to for-profit without even any significant IP being freely licensed...if that's not a bait-and-switch I don't know what is. I hate Musk's guts but I'm on his side in coming down on Altman and OpenAI like a ton of bricks. Granted, what _really_ needs to happen is the definition of non-profit needs to be fixed. A good start would be to require non-profits to publish all their IP under liberal or copyleft licenses (their choice) save for IP related to branding.

[@antialfrednt]

4:01 Billionaire AI mogul Sam Altman making a moral plea to billionaire AI mogul Elon Musk is funnier than any joke an AI could recycle

[@HoboGardenerBen]

All billionairres are bad for the economy, but 2 billion vs 360 billion, Elon is definitely the worse offender by a lot. He is one of the primary supervillains of this era, right up there with Bezos and Zuck. I always enjoyed dystopic scifi, might as well enjoy the real thing, the rich complex suffering of it.

[@4.0.4]

Well, definitely funnier that the "why scientists don't trust atoms" one they love so much.

[@Wulk]

He has political power, morals was a problem of like a week ago the second Trump won the election lmao

[@JesusPlsSaveMe]

​@@4.0.4 Where are you going after you die? What happens next? Have you ever thought about that? Repent today and give your life to Jesus Christ to obtain eternal salvation. Tomorrow may be too late my brethen😢. Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto man once to die, but after that the judgement

[@geodefence]

Hey hey wanna know something cool religion bot? NO ONE CARES

[@CeclieGatmaitan]

I hit $113k today. Thank you for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months. Started last month 2024. Financial education is indeed required for more than 70% of the society in the country as very few are literate on the subject.

[@Viviannryan]

It's essential for you to have a mentor to keep you accountable. Myself, I'm guided by Evelyn Vera. for years and highly recommend her I focus on her. To be honest, I almost didn't buy the idea of letting someone handle growing my finance, but so glad I did.

[@BillyWilson-tx7xz]

Wow! wow! please is there any way to reach her services?

[@Viviannryan]

Yes, I have her WhatsApp digits

[@Viviannryan]

*+134*

[@Viviannryan]

*1207*

[@skybasee6206]

I think OpenAI just trying to use a marketing strategy called anchor pricing. Which setting a 200$ look very expensive and very few will pay for it, then if OpenAI introduce something lower than that, people will believe it is more acceptable.

[@baconbeast3209]

God bless corrupt capitalism!

[@user-sl6gn1ss8p]

Also, some people will pay it no problemto have the absolutely shiniest thing they can

[@Navhkrin]

Yep, give it few months they will come out and say they optimized the model and now it costs 100$

[@matthewvanwinkle7631]

Yea I definitely agree with their $200 price tag as purely a marketing tactic more than an actual product price. Smart move by OpenAI imo but it doesn’t look a little desperate

[@baconbeast3209]

Now if youtube can stop deleting my comments, i dont like the tactic, its smart sure but feels like corrupt capitalism

[@Khari99]

"It would be un-American to use the political power to hurt your competitors" Oh really? Tell me more

[@David.77]

I know they are just throwing buzzwords around but using political power to hurt your competitors is as American as apple pie with medical debt

[@michaelanthony4750]

Exactly what he and Microsoft were going to do to Elon.

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

​@@michaelanthony4750who said he did anything to Microsoft they share the same problem with insurance I just want to know what you gain from hating on girl

[@sebastianorye2702]

I doubt he'll actually use political power to hurt OpenAi, rather, will ensure politics is aligned with the paths his companies need open. I.E. making sure regulations don't take more time than building a rocket, rather than using politics to keep competitors back.

[@thatsalot3577]

The only things more American than that statement are cheeseburgers and guns 💀

[@devbud]

nothing i love more then people in power getting more power

[@frydac]

power is taken by ppl willing to lower themselves to pick it up, unfortunately

[@TheZakanater]

i like elon, but $200 for UNLIMITED api is a steal, almost like they are panicing

[@devbud]

@@TheZakanater i don't think you get unlimited api just the chatGPT app

[@TheZakanater]

@@devbud ah right, well at the moment i use the site for free and it's pretty good at breaking down analytics json files, but only can do it once per day lel, but yeah not as big as i thought it was then

[@JesseFleming1990]

​@@TheZakanater It's not for API, it's just for the standard platform. I agree if it was for API it would be a steal, instead, they are dedicating platform compute to whales.

[@ethair8975]

Claude just quietly avoiding the drama.

[@okachobe1]

Love Claude, they are simple people, focus on the product not the marketing

[@GraveUypo]

Yeah i have perplexity pro and my standard model is claude. Even though i could use any other there including gpt

[@vicente3j]

I've started using Claude and found that I always run out of context tokens, or like message length, or whatever. It's annoying.

[@thanos879]

I start using paid chatgpt for programming and it was terrible. Buggy code in every answer. Then I teated out Claude and it immediately solved all the bugs for me. I switched over to Claude. The only problem is I hit my limits faster/ they're always complaining about high demand.

[@huckleberryfinn6578]

@@vicente3j That's the big problem with Claude. They should release such an unlimited version for under $100.

[@FurryNonsense]

They keep saying "it's 10x better than the previous version" but I never notice a difference

[@rorykeegan1895]

Let me know when any of these AI miracles can tell you how many R's there are in strawberry.

[@mikebarnacle1469]

That's because they test against flawed benchmarks that mean absolutely nothing. It's 10x better at cheating on benchmarks every time which doesn't translate to any improvement in real use.

[@luka1608]

​@@rorykeegan1895 Is this a joke? I just tested it and it said three.

[@SuitOne]

@@rorykeegan1895 o1 can do that, they actually used that example when they unveiled it.

[@ligius3]

Same here. Everytime I use it I regret the time spent caressing the prompt to give a plausible answer. And then it's just plain wrong. Then it excuses itself and from that point gives me only wrong solutions. It works 10% of the time but otherwise it's a massive waste of time, unless you want 'creativity'.

[@IvanRandomDude]

Eventually all AI providers will raise prices. They are giving us access to models for cheap right now in order to hook us onto their products. Once we depend on them so much I can see them charging hundreds of dollars a month. They have to make money at some point, this phase of investing billions without making big profit cannot last forever.

[@TonyCecala]

We are also “the product”. We are training them with real-world data.

[@MozzarellaBasket]

Yeah when AI becomes your #1 life companion they can do that. But this isn't even close to a reality right now. Maybe is 2077 in some Cyberpunk dystopia when we have robots in our house to do everything, maybe then we can pay the equivalent of $500 a month in today's money.

[@normalchannel2185]

@@MozzarellaBasket Which i mean, for now it sounds fair. I get access to the model, but my work trains it. Sounds like a win-win

[@Srednicki123]

no. they can't. They offer all the same product, the one who has the lowest price wins all the customer. Also there are the open source models.

[@ghoulbby]

Nah, my payment is the data they're using to train their models on.

[@nulled7888]

The for-profit change couldn't have been more obvious...

[@dertythegrower]

china's is now open source... confirmed 😅

[@masterchief5603]

AI Boyfriend/Girlfriend that assists you in coding. Sounds like a top tier business plan.

[@codingdj]

Memes aren’t just jokes anymore, "This is business" 😂😂😂

[@abhishuoza9992]

What makes it funny about this channel is that everything in these videos is 100% true. It's just that reality itself is a parody now.

[@w.e.b_b]

“fellow African American” 😂

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

He is really morally corrupt and brainless

[@daskampffredchen]

Jamila? Why is that your responce to Elon being African? You got something against people from there?

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

@@daskampffredchen that's not about him ...his friends sadly

[@Cherupakstmt]

Instead of building o1 pro model and charge $200 they should have built an AI girlfriend which listens to you. They could have charged $400 and people will still happily pay for it.

[@AsokaTw-mz3lr]

feminists will riot on the street.

[@WoolyCow]

get this man a board seat

[@audiencefromspace]

It's literally that simple

[@Pyranders]

There are already AI models that do that. They tend to quickly forget everything you tell them, though, so they're more like boyfriends.

[@Gamblingwmylife]

Y’all not beating the allegations😂😂

[@fio_mak]

Does the $200 mode remove the forced feature where it lectures me on morality instead of answering a fu**ing question?

[@xybersurfer]

@@hyperadapted that sounds like a no

[@krinodagamer6313]

RIGHT

[@ric6611]

this isn't ChatGPT, you can say fucking without getting a warning that you are violating the terms of conduct.

[@morezombies9685]

I love it when chatgpt talks down to me about morals and ethics as it insists it has no emotions and is simply an insult to God masquerading as consciousness.

[@xyster7]

You frustration is valid. I understand your sentiment. I am so sorry that you feeling this way. I apologize for the mistake. You are right - I am not a person and I understand nothing.

[@wlockuz4467]

I can't wait to pay $200 to find that there are 7 R's in the word Strawberry.

[@grow_kar]

Or you can just pay 5$

[@KiffgrasConnaisseur]

That "proomp engineer" meme perfectly summed up the entire GenAI space.

[@OccultDemonCassette]

They crippled the $20 tier. I have never had "usage limits" pop up for GPT-4o until after this $200 plan activated. $200/Month is insane. Im switching to Gemini AI Studio as it'll be cheaper in the long run.

[@VolodymyrPankov]

Did someone force you to buy the $200 plan? They are providing the product for free to the world. If you need extra features, you can pay $20 or $200.

[@rulesandregulations7192]

brainwashing manifested😂​@@VolodymyrPankov

[@OccultDemonCassette]

@@VolodymyrPankov Did you misread what I wrote? You don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

[@ministerpillowes]

@@OccultDemonCassette His reading comprehension is about as good as Gemini sometimes.

[@goldencookie5456]

Usage limits remain the same. 40 per 3 hours for 4 80 per 3 hours for 4o 50 per day for o1 mini 50 per week for o1

[@HighlandArmsM1911]

At least xAI is saying they will open source each model 6 months after release. Who knows whether or not they will fulfill their promise, but better than OpenAI that is effectively promising never to open source anything ever again.

[@SingerDuce]

No reason to believe it’ll be open source or stay open lol. Elons got some history…..

[@NoOne-vz2pb]

they say a lot of things. Elon especially. How that 'TRUCK' holding up? Remember when he fucking said the cyber truck was going to be affordable with highest tier being less than 100k.

[@PurpleT-Rex]

@@SingerDuce It's not like he has given away Tesla patents as he promised right? Oh WAIT

[@dtreezy]

@@PurpleT-Rex Elon haters are the same type of people who scroll on X all day.

[@PurpleT-Rex]

@@dtreezy For sure, I like seeing people on X hating on Elon and calling him all sorts of names, but they either have tens of thousands of posts or have paid for Premium. They absolutely despise him but still want the money he gives them.

[@addanametocontinue]

Hard to imagine one LLM being so much better than your typical LLM that you'd pay $200/mo for it. I currently use Claude and Copilot and they work just fine.

[@clray123]

It is not 10x better, but it surely af is 10x more expensive to run. OpenAI (=Microsoft) calls that a "competitive advantage", and you have to pay for it.

[@kgill99]

It’s not necessarily about quality (though the higher price plan has more tokens) but it’s probably more about volume, maybe as an individual you can get by on the limited access on the smaller plan, but if it’s a business with large volumes of users, using it a lot, then the £200 a month (or 2.4K a year) is small change

[@grow_kar]

You can get gpt for 5$

[@BigSources]

Imagine getting on the very bad side of one rich guy and then a few years later when you're starting to get extremly successful on the world stage and also controversial, the one guy you reeeeeally pissed of get's put into a position where he manages the (mainly financial) decisions of the government you are actively cooperating with and his best buddy get's put into a position where he can decide what your company is allowed to do and what not 😂

[@dertythegrower]

Elon always 2 steps ahead.. I would know

[@JohnSmith-qy1wm]

Imagine living in a country where one extremely successful individual can transparently and directly use the power of the state to get at a competitor 🙃

[@BigSources]

​@@JohnSmith-qy1wmhe could, but there will definitly be major backlash. Abuse of power from highly public figures usually isn't that popular.

[@mrdouche9172]

Well he turned a non-profit into a for-profit. I am not an expert when it comes to these stuff, but I think that's some sketchy behavior and shouldn't be legal.

[@marcelocardoso1979]

@@BigSources American politics is all about lobbying. This is just more explicit. If they'd care, they wouldn't even accept to become a politician in the first place.

[@shiccup]

Learning fireship allegedly has kids and isn't a 16 year old kid was a strange realization for me.

[@thefrub]

"Profoundly unamerican" Yeah I don't know buddy, open a history book and businessmen have a long practice of buying senators off to outlaw competition

[@diadetediotedio6918]

It is still unamerican tho, lol.

[@dtreezy]

@@diadetediotedio6918 If we are holding America to the standards of its golden age, then sure. For the past 60 years it has not been that. Corporate lobbyists control the government from top to bottom. This might be the only time where a billionaire is putting themselves directly on stage for everyone to see.

[@jerrygreenest]

OpenAI means open, its name stands for non-profit by itself. Chaning it to for-profit is nuts move. It should be illegal, and in fact I didn't even consider it possible. Isn't it illegal? Especially when people invested in it. But all of a sudden it becomes ClosedAI. Nuts

[@AR-iv6se]

Same reason communism does not work, people are just too greedym

[@BladeTrain3r]

It's been ClosedAI in practice since like 2019

[@jerrygreenest]

@ yeah they created some for-profit company backing the main company. Shady stuff. They probably wanted to go all-in and to turn the main company into for-profit too, but it was too much and now they will have to face consequences. Funny how they talked about the fact AI should be open to everyone and some company cannot have monopoly on it, but eventually they became what they fought against.

[@theforsakeen177]

@jerrygreenest sketchy or not elon is the last guy to call them out on it lol, his own model is closed source and pay to use, he also only gave them a portion of the funding he promised and pulled out when they wouldn't merge with his ev company

[@zimbu_]

If you can prove in court that they purposefully falsely represented their plans and solicited donations and avoided taxes while already knowing they would become a for-profit enterprise, then it's illegal. But considering the legal representation that a 100+ billion dollar company can afford, you're unlikely to win that case against them.

[@AIsavesDemocracy]

Sam already said the $200 accounts are not for the standard user. It's only fractionally better than o1. O1 pro is targeted more at businesses and professionals.

[@Kumalala2007]

Yeah it's obvious it's for that way since they mostly Increase the ressources

[@yesyes-om1po]

>professional >AI pick one

[@herdenq]

​@@yesyes-om1pothat's a silly take

[@clray123]

They are for the exceptionally dumb user who does not understand money and needs strong AI to help out.

[@playlistmaster4000]

200$ per month is pricey AF :(

[@jort93z]

eh, on the pricey side but not unheard of. Autodesk inventor for example is $200 per month as well and it's quite popular.

[@playlistmaster4000]

@@jort93z woah , i really am is a peasant fr :)

[@Samarth_pawar7]

ask chat gpt 01 whatever model it is 'how to get cchatgpt o1 free '' lol

[@cycliii]

I'm not sure why so many people are upset about the price when its quite literally not meant for them

[@jort93z]

@@playlistmaster4000 It's for professional users "pro". If you own a business, and make 100k a year(which is not uncommon) with the help of chatgpt, paying $2400 dollars per year is not an issue. Solidworks premium for example is around $400 per month and people find that worth it. Its obviously not something you get just to mess around with sometimes. It's for when you have a business and rely on chatgpt on a daily basis.

[@user-ii7xc1ry3x]

Elon will be too busy playing PoE2 from now on

[@jimmydesouza4375]

Pillars of Eternity 2? What does that have to do with anything?

[@FaneTheAncient]

No not the crpg but arpg path of exile 2 beta came out and eleon seems interested in it

[@stuartcarter4139]

@jimmydesouza4375hah

[@Kamal-ju6qx]

@jimmydesouza4375 path of exile 2

[@zimbu_]

@jimmydesouza4375 He played a lot of Diablo a little while back, enough that some people were surprised by the amount of leisure time he has. Path of Exile is the other big, popular game franchise in the same genre and they just released a new game.

[@serene1618-t3f]

$200/month for the o1 model makes them worthy of the name closedAI, as most can't afford it.

[@VolodymyrPankov]

Did someone force you to buy it?

[@VolodymyrPankov]

Use the free version, or upgrade for $20. I'm using the free version, and I'm thankful to them. By the way, Elon's Grok people can't use for free...

[@razor191919]

They've accumulated over 50k people on to the $200 subscription already.

[@hastyscorpion]

2:00 they have a lead in public mind share. In actual tech I have found Claude to be a significantly superior product.

[@TripeDemo]

That is true, at one point i cancelled my chatgpt subscription and bought one for claude. The results were great in the first 30 minutes after which point my credits ran out and it eas like i was back to being a free user. Needless to say im back with GPT but i still look back to claude every once in a while when im doing something particularly complex

[@lokendrarawat1121]

Who's watching this after deepseek thing

[@LesserAndrew]

Came to the comments looking for this

[@davidhutchinson2890]

Even as far as sleazy corporate guys go Sam Altman is Mr Burns. I can see this being a funny episode to look back on when people for all their high handed opinions of themselves allowed a guy to make chatbots and make billions under the pretense that the next project will be AGI (whatever the hell that is supposed to be even he doesn’t know)

[@dashmeetsingh9679]

Who is not? By 2024 we will have mars colony guy, has done the same thing. Or several others as well. Each to their own ponzi.

[@lupusreginabeta3318]

1:10 That is not quite true you get access to o1 pro which is the same type of model but not the same model

[@epicjoer3524]

Elon is not above using political power for his own benefit 💀

[@frydac]

As anyone who pretends to be friends with the orange clown, no shame nor integrity whatsoever, pure ego and greed, all of em

[@veryCreativeName0001-zv1ir]

sam altman is using strategic flattery or manipulation via positive reinforcement think about how you praise your crazy boss with complements that clearly don't suit him but upon listening to your complements he actually becomes that person to some extent

[@miller42]

and Altman used Big Tech

[@sebastianorye2702]

Absolutely. He went into politics to make sure people who are aligned with his company interests are secure (just like you and i vote based on who we align with). Thats not to ignore the undemocratic part of US politics, which is that it's partially P2W. Anyways, i think we'll see more Elon using it to clear the way regulation wise ahead of him, rather than building walls against competitors. After all, Tesla literally has their patents open for competitors to use, so it would surprise me if it suddenly flipped. Thats the Jeff Bezos way, and not really the Elon way thus far. We'll see pretty soon.

[@paullyashenko1201]

$200 is 2/3 of an average month salary in my country, lol

[@ShortContent853]

Wow you are poor

[@Kamal-ju6qx]

@@ShortContent853 difference between value of currency

[@diadetediotedio6918]

@@Kamal-ju6qx Yes, so, they are indeed poor. My country average month salary is approx ~500 dollars, the minimum (which a good part of the population get) is ~230 dollars. This is not a wrong statement, those are poor countries.

[@ShortContent853]

@@Kamal-ju6qx wow you are very poor

[@ShortContent853]

@@jake__ and you are poor poor jakey boy

[@hiya2793]

man i just love the fact that thanks to the internet, we're now able to precisely and accurately track our degrade into the next big crisis.

[@Synthwalk]

What i learned from american politics in recent times: the best way of knowing if someone is leveraging political power to go after their competition/political opposition is to see if that someone is acusing someone else of doing the same.

[@dracsharp]

"It would be un-American to use the political power to hurt your competitors and advantage your own business" Must be a joke, there is nothing more on brand

[@lucaswatsup]

this is one of the funniest fireship videos i've watched 0:34 1:50 2:05 3:26

[@Password_1234]

As a frontend developer specializing in pushing the limits of what you can graphically do within a browser, your "SVG unicorn" example completely cracked me up. I always look on with jealousy when my backend colleagues can get answers from LLMs. Meanwhile, try asking it a very basic geometry question like how much you can round the corners of an N-sided polygon before it becomes a circle, and just watch the nightmare visuals unfold. At least my job is going to be safe for another decade or so.

[@stuartmcgill7647]

4:07 looks like Sam been learning US history from chatGPT if he thinks it's unamerican for firms to use political power to profit

[@abhishuoza9992]

Dude this channel is basically becoming nottheonion for tech news XD. I swear we're living in a parody universe created by some alien

[@hadeedahmad9465]

This is not the code report , this is the tea report

[@nocturne6320]

You COULD pay 200$ for O1, OR just pay 20$ for Claude 3.5 Sonnet

[@grow_kar]

Or like me pay 5$ chat gpt

[@RyanDoserAI]

This might be one of the best videos I've seen when it comes to the state of AI. Very well done!

[@inzaghiposumaalkahfi9650]

0:55 It's on December 7, 2024 or Jumada al-Akhir 5, 1446 AH and you're watching Fireship Videos about Sam Altman's GPT-o1 Subscription on the Code Report Series.

[@IzzumiPoshaf]

Up

[@majid127x]

It's dec 8 here in US

[@alexandrecolautoneto7374]

YEAH! That is what I want, a $200 spell checker. We don't care about transportation, housing, universal healthcare, or public university, we want a spell checker with 80% accuracy.

[@matta5749]

I have to imagine people like you are some combination of bitter and scared about AI to say stuff like this. If you haven’t found some way to leverage LLMs for a significant benefit in your work, hobbies, or education, it’s not because you’re too good for them or because your work is too complex, it’s because you don’t know how and when to use them. It’s a skill that requires creativity and critical thinking, and if you aren’t practicing it, you’re likely falling behind.

[@Al-xq4ec]

And what exactly does OpenAI have to do with any of the problems you just mentioned? Are you jealous?

[@zimbu_]

It's not like the individuals who pay for the feature were going to donate the money to the city or the IRS if it wasn't a thing so I don't get the dichotomy. Spell checker is an okay way to quickly deride this tech as it's a familiar way we use it, so I don't think the vitriol in the first response was warranted.

[@alexandrecolautoneto7374]

@@matta5749 I have used copilot for 2 years in my job, only made my productivity worst. it was able to tell me the easy stuff that I already knew, but when it did a mistake the mistake was bad, because was hidden under correct structure. Lost more time fixing copilot bugs than actual coding. And think, if they had developed a product which you could just type some simple text and it would output a working code , they would earn more money by solving the problems themselves instead of selling their magic goose for 20$. But yeah, you are free to believe in the guy that is selling you the treasure-map and the shovel, instead of going himself pickup the treasure, trust him...

[@alexandrecolautoneto7374]

@@matta5749 so you are telling me that they developed an AI that can create quality code and effectively reproduce or create any app in the world for cents, and instead of becoming millionaires they are selling their magic goose for $20. PS: I got an email from a Nigerian prince that might interest you.

[@ankk6788]

If you are a 'software engineer' rather than a 'puzzle solver doing it as a hobby,' you should prioritize SWE-Bench Verified over Codeforces. And when it comes to SWE-Bench Verified, Claude Sonnet 3.5 is far superior.

[@cmoullasnet]

The bad news with this pricing is that it means the API costs for O1 are going to remain high for some time. It also means it probably actually is costing them this much to run, so it seems that OpenAI has an efficiency problem...

[@lukehp7431]

Happy Festivus for the rest of us!

[@feynstein1004]

Did Musk not get the memo about the recent CEO event?

[@liambelh9556]

"It would be profoundly un-American to use political power, to the degree that Elon has it, to hurt your competitors and advantage your own business" But that's exactly what Sam Altman's trying to do...

[@sharrpshooter1]

I mean same with Elon lmao

[@nabir14]

Idk why but I have a feeling that 2025 is gonna be a rough year...

[@RobertMartinOsteopathy]

Yesterday I asked ChatGPT to make me an image of a bald guy. Results……. Sully from monsters inc. I think humanity isn’t ready for this kind of power. lol.

[@ryanmahon1]

Thanks for keeping these short and to the point

[@existenceisillusion6528]

People should realize they shouldn't underestimate Sam or be comfortable with Elon.

[@GameDevChad]

Basically the opposite, please fix it

[@kbrizy1]

Soap operas are playing out in real life these days.

[@Jackson_Zheng]

3:27 - That joke is probably gonna go over most people's heads lol

[@j5studies344]

care to explain?

[@ohfourbaby]

most definitely

[@raheem-t8u]

Plz

[@hadmeinthefirsthalfngl2717]

Plsss explainnn

[@h3ml0ckx]

@@j5studies344 Elon wants that 11 Billion even though he is the richest man in the world (it really shouldn’t matter for him that much if his net worth changes from 343 Billion to 354 billion?) and thinks that he got betrayed out of his own co founded company which is like crying because my mom got me 100 games in christmas instead of getting me 101 games.

[@spooky.giggles]

Why is the media not talking about ChatGPT whistleblower Suchir Balaji’s death?

[@SethGrantham-k1x]

The one thing I found intriguing is have you seen the view counts on the OpenAI promo videos? 120k for day 2, and 430k for day 1. Not exactly massive exposure.

[@Dom-zy1qy]

Seems like OpenAI has abused the GPT architecture to the point where scaling it further will yield such diminishing returns that it's impractical. The o1 "reasoning" paradigm feels like it's contrived and exists solely to ship a new product. If it's so expensive to run inference on that it costs ~10x more, thats not really that impressive or exciting (from an AI perspective at least). How would you tokenize reasoning anyway? Reasoning isn't a discrete process. The only reason it works for language is because different people generally interpret the same words similarly. This must also be a much less parallelizable task (based on the response times), so it doesn't seem like it'd be practical to scale this either. It's probably a good pivot from a pure research perspective, but releasing a product in the AI space that costs $200/month might be a (sort of) bad look for "Open"AI.

[@Zoulz666]

I remember when Elon wanted to pump the breaks on AI. Now he seems to be all-in. He just wanted everyone else to pump the breaks so that he could get ahead of the competition. Elon has no problem exploiting government to get what he wants.

[@MarkDSnutts]

Wrong.

[@ZytheJR]

How do people get Elon so wrong. Elon is good for you and me. Op is Fucking biased

[@benjiunofficial]

1:37 thanks for saying "computing power" instead of "compute"

[@vedsarkar8602]

Whats the difference in this context??

[@OhsoLosoo]

For unlimited project access to Claude sonnet id pay 200$ easy. Anthropic can overtake them now that they’ve open the door to this.

[@xXChemikerXx]

Well this didn't age well..

[@dolanD2]

200 bucks for a censored AI, no thanks.

[@2AoDqqLTU5v]

Sorry it can’t write racist lyrics for a song. I’m sure X ai Will let you though

[@EffanLaw]

Its not made for entertainment, its made for work. If your work is censored you dont need ai, lets be real.

[@StingSting844]

That's an utterly stupid understanding of the tech but expected 👍

[@ferdinandmichels8548]

how is the non-censored alternative called?

[@prestonharms3203]

​@@2AoDqqLTU5v pretty sure grock is only designed so sniff musky taint

[@codefinity]

4:06 "...profoundly un-American..." That ship sailed about 4 years ago. What's 'Murican is whatever Trump and the ruling oligarchy says it is. "He who has the gold makes the rules." 'Murica!

[@nousquest]

This but actually

[@blackjoker2345]

I thought biden won 4 years ago?

[@killsode4760]

The ruling oligarchy? You mean the one that just lost?

[@ericfisher1360]

Like trying to "pre-pardon" your friends and family...

[@bingchilling_69]

@@ericfisher1360 trump did that like 8 times and you didn't care or notice

[@TAGSlays]

Call it what it is. It's not designed for "Power Users" SAY THE WORDS!!! It's designed for the rich.

[@MrSchweppes]

So ChatGPT Pro actually offers something Plus tier don’t- the o1 pro mode. In specific use cases it performs much better than everything that we currently have.

[@sebastienberger2890]

I’m have waiting for the end of the ads just to ear the song at the end.

[@pmlstk]

DOGE isn't imaginary it's temporary , bruh quit the bias capping

[@aaditrangnekar]

its not a government agency at all, its more of a thinktank

[@ChristianSteen-bw7pd]

Why in the world would Elon do the right thing when he could do the profitable thing?

[@letux4703]

Elon DONATED to them. Matter of fact Sam is the one who is doing the profitable thing... by turning it into a FOR-PROFIT company.

[@henb2211]

​@@letux4703Musk also wanted to make it profitable organisation, to get more founding. He just left the company, after he wasnt Promoted to CEO

[@ChristianSteen-bw7pd]

@@letux4703 I'm kinda convinced they're both doing the profitable thing. What I mean is I don't think Sam should hold his breath waiting for Elon to do the "right" thing.

[@waterbloom1213]

It's pretty clear to me he is a megalomaniac in disguise, just as he is exactly the very representation of the things he oh so enjoys to criticize. MBAs running a business are bad. He has no actual Physics degree and his go-to clients and investors are clueless business types with no knowledge about technology or science. Complains about federal and state expenses. His companies have survived and still do because they get funded via taxpayer money. Complains about the State. Constantly lobbies to get NASA contracts while making money off of carbon credits, the people that hand them to him magically are later hired to run his companies. Complains about the lack of scientific education of the youth. Constantly peddles Sci-fi ideas as if they were fact.

[@bingchilling_69]

@@letux4703 elon was mad he didn't have full control over the company to stroke his ego so he made grok, and he'll abuse his spot in government until he dominates the industry

[@Cainny]

God America really is a circus show of a country 😂😂

[@gus473]

No free admission, but here's some popcorn 🍿 on the house

[@Alcani3ca]

Compared to who? European countries that havent been able to create a new company that surpases the €100bn in the last 50 years? 😂

[@tryptamine-loopring-eth]

America has been the top ranking Alien reality TV show for over 200 years running. The rest of the world can seeth in jealousy. 💅

[@shyshka_]

unfortunately outside of a few nordic/baltic countries, life in the US is still better than whatever the hell the rest of the world can offer. South America? Middle East? CHINA? Who are we kidding lol

[@GreatTaiwan]

@@Alcani3ca cuz america didn't let them every time they try America buys the company or criple the gov into paying sums of money for "protection"

[@lookupverazhou8599]

When are they going public?

[@Codak_3]

I get a lot of news in your videos and the bests part you make it interesting

[@djpuplex]

I thought it was Christmas and not April fools.

[@Un_Pour_Tous]

Xmas.

[@DR-br5gb]

@@Un_Pour_Tous Cry

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

​@@Un_Pour_Tousoh well that's shitty stinky

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

​@@DR-br5gb😂😂😂

[@mikevaleriano9557]

With 200 bucks you can buy a stylish black hoodie with built in face mask, black pants to match, a pair of Albirds Canvas Pipers (or equivalent sensible shoes), and a knockoff of a a grey/ash Peak Design Everyday Backpack.

[@rhadiem]

Or you could do something cool with it.

[@goldencookie5456]

I'd pay 400 bucks for gpt pro than whatever you mentioned for 200 if I couldn't resell it for more.

[@shoopddawhooped]

200 can get you a PSE/GFE BBBJ FIP COF and still have $50 left over for a hearty lunch

[@Ameridlo]

well al know Sam Altman is the villian he cant talk for more than 15 min without threating

[@alfatech5252]

That Tump dance clip is hilarious 😂

[@sunnysanjo]

The string of words said I the intro is so insane. It sounds like a movie premise

[@lashlarue7924]

The Pro model of O1 does give you a bit more compute. This actually would matter to me in some cases. If I were about to build a big project for my business I would spend the extra $180. I already like how much more precise O1 is at getting the nuances down the first time so I don't have to iterate as much.

[@soulsmith4787]

Hopefully this somehow leads to the reopening of OpenAI's sourcing

[@anthonybenjamin4311]

"Imaginary government agency" ok bro.

[@meatsaucez1516]

Haha Elon blocking OpenAI’s transition to for-profit. That’s hilarious. 🤣 But just the fact that this is even necessary makes me 🤯

[@dynodyno6970]

O1 pro is by far the best llm I’ve used for coding. I thought Claude gave me chills but o1 pro gave me chills again.

[@sadmanh0]

I guess Altman forgot Musk isn't American.

[@PurpleT-Rex]

I get what you're trying to say, but he's technically american 🤓

[@beefstew6512]

he has american citizenship

[@sadmanh0]

@@beefstew6512 oh, I thought he was on green card or something.

[@beefstew6512]

@@sadmanh0 nah hes got a work visa lol

[@miller42]

He is African American.

[@lewisburton1852]

They should be called profitAi

[@captaincavemonkey]

If chatgpt every gets actually good , the average person will not have access to it.

[@bogdyee]

Employer: We will replace you with an AI which is almost free to use and never asks for a salary. AI: *proceeds to ask for a salary.

[@PukeSkinwalker]

I think the problem in it is use is how it improves. You can't make a product with a barrier like that unless it has sufficient use by the users.