Sam Bennett’s Tour de France Pro Bike 2024 | Decathlon AG2R Van Rysel RCR

[@gcntech]

What do you think about Bennett's Van Rysel? 😍

[@yogatriathlete]

Those are DT Swiss tubeless valves Ollie. Also, when almost the entire world sets up their brakes like that, it's you who has the brakes set up "the wrong way round"

[@johnnyboy4711]

i think the only time we see Sam or his bike is on GCN and not in the TdF

[@OriginalTrev]

I think it would be faster with a waxed chain

[@Alex-gl2dw]

What about aero 105 rule aero gains? Those wheels are just like DT Swiss ARC 1100 and have 20mm internal width, and Swis Side recommends 25mm on the front wheel for aero.

[@yogatriathlete]

@@Alex-gl2dw Yes, 25mm is more aero, but in most cases the benefits of the wider 28mm tire outweigh the small aero advantage of a 25mm. Also, the external width of those wheels is 30mm at the widest point, so although a 28mm tire violates the rule of 105, it's still pretty good aerodynamically speaking

[@zauliuz]

7:04 - 7:07 no. he have right brake setup. only you, who live in island do everything opposite. And I'll mention only driving :)

[@hejsa123]

Yeah, I hate that they always mention this when they are the ones switching up the brakes... It's the Global Cycling Network, not British Cycling Network.

[@Millicente]

@@hejsa123 USA here, every bike I've ever ridden here had front brake on the left so.. not so British

[@LaChartre]

Calm down.

[@LocalConArtist]

@@Millicente the bike in the video is set up the American way, so I’m not sure what you’re arguing.

[@cristocarstens8253]

Just love it when it is not a waxed chain, it totally burst Oli's bubble !!! Back brake on the right is NOT the wrong way around either !!!

[@ricferr2]

The same way they don’t drive on the right side of the road, they also don't have the back brake on the right side of the bike 😉

[@n22pdf]

I’m mega impressed with Decathlon and the Van Rysel brand this bike looks awesome and for me if I was looking for a new bike i would certainly consider one of these or Supersix EVO as I’m a Cannondale fan 😊 Pete

[@MTBScotland]

a straight seat post - wow

[@lovemesomedetail]

im always amazed at how balanced the pro riders rear (and probably also front) wheels are, can really see it during the freehub soundcheck, no vibration at all!

[@eddysobieralski8075]

It 's great but what we REALLY want to know about is Sam's FCR.

[@Pratalax]

Hopefully soon those fcrs will let you have a look at the new fcr! Especially the one in the nice prototype paintjob with the teal. Lovely, that.

[@DennisJosefsson]

7:24 The latitude and longitude of Decathlon in Lille, and Wikipedia tells me their first store was opened there in 1976.

[@BevandEdMusic]

The music in this made me think my phone was ringing/my alarm was going off lol

[@WhaoN]

I remember the times when decathlon sold like only cheap stuff. Now they sell bikes that are ridden on a competitive level at the tour the France

[@BrightLight105]

They still sell cheap stuff, and their competitive stuff is also still comparatively cheap!

[@TeoSluga]

They always had expensive stuff... More on XC MTB side...

[@aravinda4210]

They always sold the stuff in all tiers and usually more value to money....but certainly not this bike

[@nicolastallegas6277]

@@BrightLight105Fake News, better than Giant, Scott, BMC, Cannondale Value for money.

[@u.e.u.e.]

Looks good! 😃

[@aktieninvestor308]

Ollies face after waxed chain check. Brilliant. 😂

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Awesome & Thanks :)

[@michaelscott7166]

They had one of these on display in Decathlon in Leeds, impressive bit of kit.

[@jackliang6061]

They actually are setup tubeless. Stock DT Swiss tubeless valves

[@JFomo]

I hope this bike wins a least 1 stage at the tdf.

[@OriginalTrev]

Not a chance... maybe if he used a waxed chain

[@hooiken]

hard,flat stage no sprinter...mountain hav Pogi,Jonas...and tt hav Remco

[@apollodb]

it actually looks pretty good

[@Pratalax]

god, during that intro i thought there was just someone nearby pumping a tyre very slowly! hahaaaa "onera" very nearly sounds like the japanese for "fart" which would be a hilarious name for a wind tunnel.

[@lovemesomedetail]

size small with 1,76m really requires some spacers, his torso would be in tt mode with arms stretched out if the stem was slammed :D

[@jimmusial4188]

One of those wheels is upside down. I don’t know which one, but the plus and horizontally lines say so.

[@mommamooney]

Sprint shifters set up in the pew pew pew configuration

[@lesflynn4455]

How are brakes normally set up? I'm Australian, and I'm used to front brake on the right. Are things different in Europe and/or the Americas?

[@TESTA-CC]

Cervelo, Pinarello, Colnago, Van Rysel, and many others frames are all made in Taiwan or China at the Carbotech Factory. Every Frame With the Tyre Cut out on Seat Tube Stay is a Carbotech mould Frame using t1100 carbon. Paint & Parts are Fitted to Bikes in there Respected countries, which gives them the right to say built in Italy, France, UK as final assembly (Branded Stickers & Components ) was fitted in that country

[@notpablo8369]

Stop yapping

[@nem3th]

You should make bike check on Binis Cube Litening aero bike, who already has 3 wins, and are one of the less expensive bike in the tour.

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

Looks like a C40 from the 90s. There my be some hope yet.

[@livibam]

Thought everyone who has hood buttons used them to scroll through their computer 🤷‍♂️ Hub sounds identical to my DT SWISS 180 rear

[@galenkehler]

I use mine to shift up and down, it's quite nice

[@johnhutto71]

Shimano did that 25 years ago with their Flightdeck computers. Not sure why it's suddenly a "new" idea.

[@Charles-wz9sd]

Hub sounds like the DT Swiss 180 because it is a DT Swiss 180 internal. SwissSide and DT Swiss Has had a partnership for about the last 5ish years where they help DT Swiss with the aerodynamics for their high end wheels and DT Swiss provides the internals.

[@JWick813]

wassup with that intro music lol

[@aktieninvestor308]

Never forget the suncrem Ollie

[@_cpdchua]

The head tube is ridiculously low that even world class pro riders needs to put a stack of spacers. Crazy

[@germurphy4986]

He's riding an undersized frame for his height. Common among sprinters.

[@ucdcrush]

5'10" with a 72.5 saddle height seems a bit low, not questioning, just interesting.

[@invisiblescout6335]

Height is meaningless it's leg and foot length that matters

[@brbiofa]

love it …don’t need to put 15k in a bike. The end of this total nonsense. 15k you can buy a V2 ducati. The End of the pigeons era…..others pro team have approached them but they declined and they have new bikes coming soon including a more areo tested at the TDF in his year.

[@germurphy4986]

Sam wouldn't be running a slammed stem on this (size small) undersized frame. By rights he should be on a ML sizing. But it's an easy way to drop a bit of weight off the setup.

[@bighammer3464]

Dang it Ollie, since you said now you gotta make a bike with 30cm of spacers 😂

[@venumspyder]

Why is his saddle pointing downwards? Or is it the camera angle?

[@RPaton]

UCI rules changed, the saddle does not need to be level. Pogacar and others have the nose of the saddle down.

[@mvm9407]

It looks like you've been away from Planet Cycling for quite a long time. Pointing the saddle's nose downwards is quite a dated fad. And so are short saddles and pushing them forward as much as possible. It'll eventually go away one day.

[@RPaton]

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[@vo2maximus177]

Many Pros now have lower front end cockpit, saddle pushed forward, and to cope with that more extreme position, the saddle pointing down a bit. I see no sign of that going away? Its "normal" now. ​@mvm9407

[@mvm9407]

@@vo2maximus177 That's a stretch. I happen to observe it when pro cyclists sprint, and I can tell those who point their saddle nose down are a minority. For an amateur cyclist, that setup is wrong in so many ways: it will give the sensation of sliding down to the front, for which one will compensate by putting a lot of strain on the shoulders, neck and forearms. Pros can cope with it; amateurs can't. They will endure a lot of pain on their neck and shoulders.

[@NielsdeLeeuwdenBouter]

Pretty sure those are DT Swiss tubeless valves.

[@theDude9750]

also looking at those valves and looks tubeless to me as well

[@mattdavis855]

Truly do not understand the "wrong way" brake levers bit

[@mvm9407]

Very cool, but I still have an issue with the "Swiss Side" brand name...

[@petersouthernboy6327]

Swiss Side paid for the privilege.

[@alessandrocardona9991]

Fun Fact: SWISS SIDE is actually responsible of the concept design behind DT Swiss Rims 😉 check for DT Swiss rims with stickers saying "Aerodynamics by SWISS SIDE"

[@petersouthernboy6327]

@@alessandrocardona9991 Swiss Side makes excellent aero wheels that are frequently sold out on their website

[@stijndeklerk]

Short legs. Nice seatpost, more bike brands should offer the for/aft saddle adjustablility like that.

[@ThePeter123a]

Sam Benett uses a smaller frame with more spacers and a longer stem. Because smaller frames are often more aerodynamic.

[@paulgrimshaw8334]

No. They’re just lighter. A longer frame would have a lower Reynold’s number. This whole small frame, long stem nonsense has gotten out of hand. It’s shortening wheel bases to the point where a long stem is actually needed to introduce steering stability. The manufacturers love it though… it lowers shipping weight and drives the upgrade path.

[@ThePeter123a]

@@paulgrimshaw8334 This is about reducing the front area. The spacers are narrower than the head tube and the seat post is narrower than the seat tube. The seat stays are also shorter. Swissside writes in their blog of 2-3 W savings with the next smaller frame size.

[@paulgrimshaw8334]

@@ThePeter123a Drag is measured as CdA. Area is only half the equation. Minor reductions in area can be offset by higher drag coefficients imposed by protuberances. Think about a blended steerer tube, stem and bars. Now add a bunch of spacers to make the bike fit the rider. You’ve messed up a smooth blended form. So regardless of tube diameter, flow across that section will be more disordered. I don’t give much credence to manufacturer aero claims. The first reason is that the claims rarely specify speed, which affects flow and gives rise to eddies, reversals etc. The second is that a “x” % of aero advantage of a naked frame in a wind tunnel is meaningless once you put a human rider into the equation (the flow changes completely and the CdA of the rider greatly exceeds that of the bike, reducing that % advantage into something that is minuscule to the point where it drops below the margin of error). The third is that the tests take the most advantageous case. So the angle of the air is zero. No cross winds, no matter how minor. A Reynolds number is, in a nutshell shell, the relationship of the viscosity of the fluid through which a free body travels to its length. So the longer the free body, the less drag it has. But air is a very low viscosity fluid, so meaningful (which is different than measurable) reductions only occur when air speeds are high. How high? This is where the discussion about aero and cycling falls apart… because cycling is a low speed activity. The real aero advantage of a smaller bike comes from rider positioning. That tucked in, hunched over position associated with riding a frame two sizes too small changes the frontal area and drag coefficient of the biggest part of the “system”: The Rider. It’s not a comfortable position for a 20-something professional. It’s difficult enough for anyone else and gives rise to cramping, strain, impingement etc. That’s why the pros ride bikes smaller than anything a responsible bike shop would ever recommend for a non elite cyclist. The public doesn’t understand this… and KZbin channels want to sell the impossible sponsor dream of turning the working man/woman into a TdF competitor because they’re riding a bike with a very small frame. When this dream doesn’t come to pass, another product is put on offer… this one has even better aero. LOL. And so the merry-go-around spins. Aerodynamics is a very complicated subject. That’s why it is so easy to misrepresent its meaning without running afoul of advertising laws and consumer protection.

[@paulgrimshaw8334]

So let’s put all of this into real numbers… A 170 lb rider on a bike weighing a scant 14 lbs will require 200 watts to maintain a velocity of 20.80 mph. Switch that same rider to a bike whose aero savings are 3 watts and speed will rise to…20.92 mph. Why so little extra speed? Because the rider makes up 80% of system drag. Run the same test on a bike 2.2 lbs lighter, and those figures are 20.82 and 20.93 respectively. The aero change results in a speed advantage of 0.57%. The weight change results in a speed advantage of 0.4%. Combining the two means a 1% speed advantage. It’s ridiculously low. Measurable but utterly meaningless outside of competition. The impact on rider comfort and handing is more significant. A short bike frame shifts weight forward, which makes steering slower. To offset this, manufacturers reduce caster… they pull the front wheel in closer to the frame (which might be the place where any aero gain is realized). This moves even more of the rider’s weight forward. So the manufacturers lengthens the stem which puts more weight over the front wheel but increases the lever the rider is able to use to steer the front wheel. This results in a real “racing bike”. Short frame, requiring an extremely compact rider stance, arched back, and twitchy handling. We see all of this play out on the circuit… pro riders can’t stay on the drops for an entire stage. They mainly ride on the hoods (bye bye aero). They switch to the drops on sprints, which is where most of the accidents occur. Gee, why is that? LOL. The short answer is that tenths of an mph count when racing at the professional level. That 1/10th mph is applied mostly in the sprint by pros who can lay down 800+ watts for sort periods of time to reach speeds justified by the discomfort. When one takes all of this to recreational cycling, it’s an example of monkey see, monkey do… but even less meaningful results because of the discomfort involved. But the commercial advantages are far higher. A more expensive racing bike can be marketed to recreational riders. It can be shipped for less, which increases profitability. As the recreational rider’s body aches, different seat posts and bars can be sold. These are becoming proprietary on “aero” bikes, so the money goes back to the original bike manufacturer. Nobody complains. For the rider, it would be tantamount to declaring weakness. For the manufacturer, why complain about making more money?

[@MggW]

Crank arm at 10 to 3, and pedal not level. Just a "nice" from me.

[@haraldthenderupjensenesker1854]

If there ever was a bike brand with no soul whatsoever, it’s this…

[@JamesonChosen]

Straight performance

[@tubbytoast2]

Right rear ofc

[@invisiblescout6335]

Thinh sam has that many spacers because he likes to be very forward on the bike and is downsizing an extra size because the larger sizes have way too slack seattube angles for a race bike Also Swiss Side and DT Swiss are literally the same wheels with different stickers. Swiss Side do the aero, DT swiss do the manufacturing and then they both sell the same product. It's been this way for years.

[@gerhardw.933]

He uses a small S sized frame for his height, and the spacers bring up the handlebar. The forward position should have to do more with the straight or forward seatpost and stem length, not the spacers.

[@invisiblescout6335]

@@gerhardw.933can you read? I said the spacers are there because he needs a bike too small for him, to achieve the forward position

[@edymarkonthego4096]

Very small for his height.

[@NCSWIC17]

Bike prices have massively outpaced inflation. This industry needs a total reset.

[@mutualin4mation]

One stem up one stem down 😒

[@TheUsername1302]

Cool bike but the spacers are an eye sore

[@dausmoithai6198]

Stop complaining about the waxed chain, Ollie. It is getting annoying.

[@petersouthernboy6327]

Chain waxing IS annoying

[@germurphy4986]

At this level of cycling, the bike makes zero difference, especially the frame. Everyone is on Dura Ace or SRAM Red

[@petersouthernboy6327]

That's about all there is to it, tbh.

[@Mavrik-60]

And no you can't afford it so why even go there lmao