Sam Witwer on playing a live action Star Wars character

[@wilwyman451]

I am willing to bet almost all the fans from either side would love to see Sam as a live action Starkiller!

[@danielrose8305]

OMG Please!!

[@zeswa00x]

Take all my money!!!!!!

[@bradfeaster4177]

Fans from all sides would love to see Sam in a live action Star Wars project. Starkiller becomes tough because you want Starkiller, but you want him to fit in live action’s “cannon” and the game was always intended more as a “elseworlds.” What I am pleased to say is as much as I want live action Sam in Star Ware, they are waiting for a great, meaty, excellent character. Now, once that happens with his voice talent watch makeup and bit character roles galore open up in addition to his “live action character.”

[@wilwyman451]

@@bradfeaster4177 I think they could do it. He is a clone so it would be easy enough to explain away why he is not as powerful anymore. So many options in the EU for that.

[@pavma7]

​@@bradfeaster4177 Im still for a Version of Starkiller that lost his connection to the Force.

[@MrJCMG]

Do you know what I'd love to see? Sam Witwer and Cameron Monaghan as Starkiller and Cal Kestis respectively face off against each other and later team up in live action, making that jump from video games to live action.

[@webbedshadow2601]

It'd be so sick. I need to see that badly

[@dizman19]

Cal is probably dead by new hope timeline

[@rcbmmines4579]

Sam as Starkiller: You think you stand a chance against me? You're such a...Joker. *wink Cameron as Cal: Yeah you're too powerful. You'd be my...Doomsday. *wink Katee as Bo-Katan: Man this cringe hurts my skin. As if I rubbed it with...Poison Ivy. *wink Mark Hamill crashes in as Luke: You three aren't the only characters played by actors who also did big DC characters! HAHAHAHA! Sorry if this is cringe just thought this up quick.

[@MrJCMG]

@@dizman19 But then again, going by the events of The Force Unleashed 1 (the one that Sam Witwer argues could fit in Disney-era canon), Starkiller is also dead by the time A New Hope comes around.

[@MrJCMG]

@@rcbmmines4579 nah, you're good. Don't worry. This is a bit of a nerd fest at this point anyway.

[@AGoodGiggle]

Sam has nothing but potential. Would love to see him return as Starkiller or play any character for that matter

[@jok86er]

Sam should be a producer in some Star Wars projects, he knows so much about the lore.

[@dragonkamran]

Potential? He's been at it for decades now.

[@RinzlerWraith]

Always thought he looked alot like deacon st john from days gone.. (I know he mocapped him, it's just a joke)

[@marshalllatta2073]

I will love to see starkiller in Live action

[@ScoobieDoobie197474]

Not under Disney

[@erikpersson2047]

I would prefer that they make another game that finishes the story.

[@blackburn1489]

@@ScoobieDoobie197474 kek what? Why?

[@TheLeatheryman]

He would be a great antagonist for a new trilogy featuring Quinlan Vos and A’Sharad Hett.. to see one redeemed and the other fall to the dark.. just like the Acolyte, but excellent!

[@Camerooonify]

Remember Kathleen Kennedy said we had no source material to draw from 😭😭. I would kill for a live action Starkiller. Honestly Sam should be running star wars. His knowledge and understanding of what the fan base wants and deserves. His understanding of the lore. Disney are so dull 😭 they could print money.

[@LegendaryYoby]

The fact she said that means she isn't a fan of the IP and doesn't know WTF she talking about

[@Friendlyfirefish]

Most writers know that lore is not to be adhered to like some sort of religious text. It's fluid and can be included/dismissed at the writers whim to make the story work. And you want a guy with no writing credits to speak of to write a coherent story? Even if he was an accomplished writer, with the nerd level of understanding of the lore to go on he would have to dismiss plenty to make the plot workable which would make some "fans" irate. Then the "sell out" stuff will start flying.

[@jok86er]

I would kill for a third Force unleashed game and a movie. You know what would be cool if Star Wars would focus more in the legends stuff now that the Skywalker saga is done. It would kind of like the What if..? stuff Marvel is doing.

[@waitroose]

@@jok86er Just saw they might be doing episodes 10,11 and 12....

[@masemboross4996]

@@jok86erThat’s exactly what I’ve been saying. A what if series of movies and shows from here on out would be amazing and they could absolutely do it. A large number of the cast from the prequels haven’t aged that much

[@weirdguy564]

I always thought that Keanu Reeves would make a great Revan from The Old Republic. However, with his age, and a desire to go younger, you could cast Sam Witwer as Revan.

[@garlicpie95]

Absolutely agree .People will be disappointed if it isn't Keanu but I'm sure star wars fan would be sk happy to see Sam

[@IzzyBeBizzy]

Literally just thought the same thing watching this.

[@-Anonymous-.]

The last command storyline. Trade the Luuke clone for A clone of Darth Vaders apprentice: Starkiller. Thrawn is already in live action.. so it works.

[@seevideonow]

I always hoped they would do this. They completely wasted the big moment of Ashoka meeting Luke. Having Luke and Ashoka taking on Vader's final apprentice and Mara Jade (could argue she's Palatine's final apprentice) being introduced would be great. Could close the book on the post OT/pre Sequel era so they can finally move on to something else.

[@Mutant_X98]

THIS!! THIS RIGHT HERE!!!

[@-Anonymous-.]

@@Mutant_X98 they should honestly do it

[@midnight2600]

Bro Sam as Starkiller, I can see it! Shave/Buzzzcut his hair, the outfit, the effects yes I could absolutely see it!! And im here for it!

[@damyr55]

You're probably joking, but just in case you're unaware, it literally is him. He played Starkiller. The character was also modeled after him

[@thewatcher9500]

Every one would love to see starkiller have his own show and or appear in live action fans would love that . I know I would absolutely freaking love that

[@simplythebest2k]

A star killer adaptation would be as successful as Deadpool.

[@jessesullivan7102]

It really wouldn’t my guy. Star Wars reputation is in the toilet at the moment unfortunately.

[@TheRealAnthonyT]

Agreed

[@Turok1134]

Extremely doubtful.

[@Skinnydibs]

If they did it right, it would be more successful. Starkiller is one of the most interesting and powerful characters. On par with Revan in my opinion

[@jok86er]

I would watch the hell out of a Force Unleashed movie

[@FinalConsensus]

It would be a massive crime to not let him portray the character in live action. I don’t care if Disney deems force unleashed “non canon” because it’s a hell of a lot more compelling of a story and atmosphere than most of their recent content

[@Friendlyfirefish]

@@FinalConsensus it would be impossible before disney too. The point of his character is that he is OP. Thats just plain boring for a movie/show and is why the game is so short.

[@Vernon013]

Please bring him into live action in a meaningful way! He loves Star Wars so much and would be amazing

[@Raxusprime_]

I hope you suggest hiring Sam at every opportunity possible. I want a force unleashed remastered game. He needs to be a live action character too

[@PeopleKnowMe07]

My head would explode if we get a live action Starkiller show. One of my favorite storylines

[@nullunit]

I really dig the fact that Dave brings people who did voice work on his animated shows into his live action wherever it made the best fit. It wasn't as Gar Saxon for boviosu reason but he did bring in Ray Stevenson (RIP) for Baylan Skoll in Ahsoka, Katie for Bo, and probably some others I am spacing on. I hope he eventually brings Kevin McKIdd back as Fenn Rau but would just be happy to see him in Star Wars live action. With the loss of Ray Stevenson, I would love if they recast, Rory McCann (The Hound from GoT) would fit the role pretty damned well. Big dude, has range as an actor and it would be fun to see him in the role of Baylan who is a more reserved character than we have seen him in before. The loyalty that Lucasfilm seems to have to their performers is really refreshing.

[@TeamICOS]

Loyalty for everyone except Gina Carano.

[@clonedavenger]

I've been waiting for some sort of continuation for Starkiller's story... animated, novel, comics, video game... I will hope one day we see the character again! Sam deserves another main role if they aren't going to do anything with Starkiller. Phenomenal actor!

[@kfw9257]

That George Lucas impression was clutch lol

[@TheJoker-jv3ou]

Clutch

[@LordBloodraven]

"Yeah, uh, yer fired." That made half the LucasArts crew have PTSD flashbacks.

[@Peoe500]

I was already betting my life on Sam playing “the Son” in Ahsoka season 2. I can still totally see that happening as he IS the son in TCW.

[@Zhaggysfaction]

These two are some of my favourite people in Star Wars and in the industry. Firstly they are hugely talented, they "get it" meaning they get Star Wars and the don't bullshit about stuff, they tell how it is. Also I'm a huge Galacita fan.

[@tearle29]

Please, oh please, GIVE US STARKILLER!!!!!! I need him to be cannon! Such a great 2 games needs to be rewarded!!!!

[@CalebByRamen]

I def want this. In whatever way it is possible. Sam in live action a version of Starkiller would RULE.

[@ChrisWong13]

I don't get it. Starkiller was pretty badass, and you have the actor still in his prime and can absolutely play the role, but it just hasn't materialized. Get it done, people!

[@jimohara3375]

Doesn’t Disney have the rights to Star Wars? I thought George Lucas sold it to them

[@ChrisWong13]

@@jimohara3375 That's right, but Lucas or Disney has never done a live action Starkiller movie or series.

[@mercurialfunk]

The Force Unleashed isn't something they'd make. They make safer properties for the largest, widest audience possible. (Not Andor obviously.)

[@chamoo232]

@@mercurialfunk And they changed way too much stuff in canon for Force Unleashed's story to still work without major changes. And instead of butchering the story I prefer they don't touch it.

[@mercurialfunk]

@chamoo232 They already have the Legends branding, they could do it easily enough imo. I just think the executives like to play it safe (Simon Kinberg trilogy) and it wouldn't fit their film branding.

[@ShaBoyOu]

Sam is a goat. We NEED a live-action StarKiller! The Force Unleashed is Peak CINEMA!!!🙌

[@RiverRockRecords]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE THIS LIVE ACTION...PLEASE.. like PLEASE... not even just please.. like DO IT. We NEED IT.. and i mean NEED IT

[@floridamanknives]

What is tough for me is that Sam is Starkiller when it comes to live action in Star Wars, so I would want to see him in prosthetics or armor where he could use his incredible range of voice acting. The exception would be if they did the Mortis Arc from Clone Wars in which case he must be The Son.

[@birdquest8695]

I’m really hoping Dave Filoni or someone else high up in the Star Wars headers is aware of the fan demand for Sam to return as live action Starkiller. Personally, I’d prefer a standalone self contained adaptation of Force Unleashed 1 that ends with him dying like in the light side ending, that way, the rest of canon hopefully won’t get affected anyway.

[@BlackHedgehog]

I'm pretty sure half of Lucas Film is very much aware of that fan demand lol.

[@floridamanknives]

I can’t wait for the full interview!

[@chamoo232]

It's already out. It's actually almost a year old.

[@brandonbritto1564]

Please make a grounded star killer series come to life. Bring Vader and everything. It will be beautiful seriously. He doesn’t have to be ridiculous as the games.

[@chrismanuel6659]

Make the force unleashed storyline a movie please

[@richardfletcher489]

You folks are real good at talking and never saying anything.

[@legendgamer676]

😂

[@TeamICOS]

"Lucasfilm is very loyal". Loyalty for everyone except Gina Carano.

[@stroose]

@@TeamICOS what about the fans? We’re the ones who got betrayed by disney/Lucas film…

[@DarthUmbreon]

I totally get where he’s coming from, I run a small clothing brand and I have a friend who has a really successful brand that he is able to do as a full time job. I would never ask him to give me a shoutout or anything or do a collab just to get my name out there more out of respect for what he’s built. I’m sure we’ll do a collab at some point but I want it to be on his terms

[@federicomanueldavila9853]

I wish he could have a cool jedi character in mandalorian or a movie about starkiller.

[@RitoRvolto]

Doesn't have to be Starkiller, I want him in live action as anything.

[@damyr55]

Someone suggested Revan from The Old Republic. He'd be perfect, should they ever make anything live-action with that

[@undead_corsair]

I don't know if Starkiller can fit into the current canon, but I would love Sam to appear in live action in some form. I'm surprised he hasn't had a cameo yet tbh, but he deserves a prominent role.

[@woahwoah2207]

Here is a simple idea: since Sam is older, Starkiller in the Disney canon could have stayed loyal to Vader even after his death. That means that Starkiller would now be a threat to Luke, Ahsoka, Cal and Ezra. It could happen in the Mando verse and wouldn't break canon at all. In fact we need a powerful force user in the Mando verse now.

[@jonathandinh4657]

Sam needs to play Revan in an Old Republic Series. Because they refuse to let Starkiller be in the cannon. Have a modern character find his Holocron.

[@CHOSEN_SITH]

The very fact that Sam Witwer hasnt played Starkiller in live action film is a Crime against the Empire

[@Ghost_Void226]

I could listen to these two talk for an eternity

[@buecheman7398]

I love to see when actors are as passionate about the characters and lore that they play as much as the fans.

[@Inhale_Burrito]

I hate that my only experience with Sam in live action is The Mist lol. Live action Starkiller would take Star Wars to a new level.

[@rice-a-ronin]

If he doesn't end up playing Galen Marrick again, Sam would make an amazing Exar Kun.

[@unreleasedtracks1790]

7:15 he definitely knows a couple of things we do not 😂 “a leave falling from the tree of trust” sam is a funny dude

[@luisfcocontreras]

Hope we do get that

[@graemeball6551]

Live action force unleashed I’m in , this needs to happen , think he deserves a live action , would be the best choice I’m sure Aden would be up for it

[@YoungGodOG]

I would love for him to get a chance to write/direct some Starwars.

[@Pinkielover]

Make him the Mortis brother in ahsoka season 2. Make it happen ,, since I know star killer will never be made..

[@tslay7928]

It would be super cool to see Starkiller, but I would really hope they write it well. Something like the writers or Andor and Rogue One.

[@braedenolson2810]

Can we PLEASE get a forces unleashed remastered!!!?!?!?!!!

[@ChrisJones96-z8z]

wasnt same techally already in a live action star wars film parker was on screen actor for maul but it was sam's voice

[@max.wilson]

I can’t believe he played Kirk in that new Star Trek Unification short. Yes, they used AI. But his body language was William Shatner. And we ALL want Sam to be a live action Starkiller. Maybe if we got live action Cal, we could get a live action Starkiller together. I passed Sam and Chloe on the sidewalk in Anaheim at Celebration back in like 2015. I recognized him immediately kept walking as I told them to enjoy their night. Doubt they heard me. 😋

[@keroseno-po1pw]

i dont care if is just in a episode of a "what if " or "legends" show with Galen Marek or even if Disney want to make the character canon again they can put it on Andor as a rebel alliance founder

[@pbh9195]

There is a possibility of having Starkiller with witwer in live action If its set in the Mandolorian timeline I can imagine SK being defeated again and keeping him in stasis in vaders palace then to be discovered by Ahsoka

[@rosvel92]

He is already Maul voice in Kenobi Season 2 likely. But I think Starkiller could also work in live-action in Kenobi Season 2, he gets too powerful leading Darth Sidious to cancel the Inquisitors program and tighten leash on Darth Vader. But they would have to rework the age. He could also be the Son in Ahsoka Season 2 The other possibility is obviously Starkiller being the antagonist in Jedi Fallen Order Survivor 3, or a reboot of The Force Unleashed videogame series. The first game could receive a reboot with a new engine and a slightly modified plot just to ground it more, and make it canon.

[@xHuie]

Galen Marek (Starkiller) is too cool for them not to do anything with

[@jok86er]

Starkiller is exactly what Star Wars needs right now. Under the right directions that project would be awesome.

[@AlexLarning]

If I would ever make a star wars show (I would never have the chance) it would be to explore the worl of legends in star wars. As in the stories that are considered Legends and not canon. And would probably have starkiller as one of the episodes... it would be live action. It has too. But of course I have too keep dreaming

[@bobbywankenobi9650]

I’d love to see Sam in live action! But he has to have input on the characters creation!

[@TheMallachiv]

Dear god I hope so , one of the only reboots I wholeheartedly believe in.

[@fourstarbrandon]

Would love to see Sam Witwer play Star Killer in LA or maybe another character. Would also like for him to play Deacon in the Days Gone movie considering HE IS DEACON lol

[@elcucuy4080]

Him & this character is so f*cking iconic!!! 🏆

[@charlesroberts6919]

Even if Witwer doesn't play Starkiller, Lucasfilm should make a new character for him to play. Starkiller is stupidly overpowered, but since that's the case, just make a new Jedi or Sith for him to play, retcon his power level, just do something to bring Witwer in. They are throwing away an amazing opportunity to give the fans what they want. People have been asking for this years.

[@CesarHILL]

Star killer life would be insanely crazy good.

[@cmscalvert]

This is a good interview. I hope starkiller gets a live action show.

[@Taijan1]

Yes Id love it if they made a little mini series that brought in Darth Vaders secret apprentice as canon. Then it fits into dave filonis little story arc revolvong around the mortis gods, Anakin is the Father, Ahsoka is the Daughter and Galen would be the Son. But what id also like is in the same way Ahsoka is fully good having been forged in war time and is somewhat fearful. Id like Galen who would be the dark side equivalent to ashsoka to not be irredeemablely, savagely evil like the Mortis Son was. Galen would be more like the Darkside of the force at Balance. Ans in that way Anakin had unknowingly through force of Habit brought balance to the force. And then hopefully this final story arc will involve abeloth, wouldnt it just be the best thing ever if Ahsoka and Galen had to join forces, the full scope of the force, dark and light in balance defending the galaxy.

[@kevincolombo3797]

Please, please please Lucas film. We desperately need to star killer, film, and short series especially since Sam is young enough, he could still play the part

[@Donkey550]

All Star Wars fans would love live action Force Unleashed!

[@RiverRockRecords]

My dude has not aged since "Being Human" 100 % actually a Vampire

[@TheCarloalberto95]

I would love to see Sam again as Starkiller in any media

[@xspiritanimalx]

Lucasfilm, loyal? Tell that to Gina Carano.

[@rc59191]

I just realized those two were also in Battlestar Galactica together lol.

[@CyborgFranky8]

Starkiller cannon live action show or non cannon it doesn’t matter we need it!!

[@junkyChunk]

Starkiller! It would be great to have a live action!

[@rcblast2031]

Starkiller is my favorite character of all time next to Mace and yoda.

[@BradLad56]

Starkiller couldn't be anyone else but Sam if they brought him into live action. The very fact that Starkiller's appearance is based on him only reinforces that.

[@LordBloodraven]

They could totally make Starkiller work in the current canon. Tone back his powers but make him insanely aggressive in his lightsaber style.

[@chamoo232]

There are so many complaints that he is too overpowered to be in canon but what all those critics fail to realize is that everyone in the Force Unleashed is overpowered. It was the whole point of the game. Force powers cranked to 11. Even Kota does crazier stuff than Yoda and Dooku from the movies. To me the most realistic Starkiller is the novel version. The book describe his training as being borderline torture where he always had the feeling that failing meant he would die.

[@Friendlyfirefish]

@@chamoo232 if everyone is OP then it wouldn't work. Especially with how you geeks need to connect everything together like its one coherent universe

[@chamoo232]

@@Friendlyfirefish I'm not saying everyone should be OP. I'm pointing out that people who complain just think Video Game Starkiller would be put in a movie as is with crazy force lightning and force repulse that incinerate people around him. If he was put in something else than a game, he would be scaled to that. He's crazy OP in his games because everyone is crazy OP in them.

[@Friendlyfirefish]

@@chamoo232 no everyone in it isnt OP, or he wouldn't be OP. Lol. The idea of the game was to just go nuts on much weaker opponents. That gets dry quickly in games which is why they are short games, and is awful for a protagonist. And if they scaled him to the story he is in then they would have the backlash of nerfing him.

[@chamoo232]

@@Friendlyfirefish The Force users are all OP. Not the stormtroopers. Look at any of the boss fights like Kota, Shaak Ti or Kazdan Paratus and tell me they don't seem on par or stronger than Ep2 Yoda. And the backlash for nerfing him would be the same mistake as people complained he's too OP to be in canon. Video games and movies are not the same.

[@justinduggan7023]

It is CRIMINAL, that they haven’t done a live action starkiller ANYTHING with Sam. After all that man’s contributions to Star Wars and Lucasfilm as a whole it baffles me that it’s never been done. Whoever is in charge needs to get their heads out of their asses and make it happen.

[@GamingLovesJohn]

This title … definitely lured me to watch this whole thing.

[@lukechambliss2247]

Oh this is cool to watch 🫶 a love for your voice is beyond amazing

[@Twanspawn]

Disney needs to give us a live action starkiller. Sam deserves it.

[@Dreki-Man-rt8lk]

I have been dying to see him meet Asoka in live action both apprentice's of Anakin light and dark side but if they did do it is it before starkilla goes good or after 🤔

[@ryanbobadilla2527]

Starkiller needs to be the protagonist of Episode 10-12.

[@LordBloodraven]

Katee is smart. She doesn't go burning bridges for the sake of her own show.

[@Marveldynastie]

Starkiller with Luke Skywalker in duo it’s can be a dream come true

[@arbknight12]

It still surprises me that Bo-Katan and B***h Pudding are the same person

[@SAR519]

Starkiller would be a nice post Vader/empire experience

[@TheGavrael]

Gotta say, one of my biggest letdowns in For All Mankind was the extreme lack of BSG alumni. How did Katee not land any of the "strong female astronaut" roles?

[@DW3010]

I remember the first time I saw a commercial for the game, I thought, “Is that Doomsday from Smallville?!”

[@Hayfever33]

Starkiller is my fave Star Wars character

[@mitchellwright5478]

Sackhoff looking at Sam and thinking of throwing it all away Sam just wants to know if the beskar armor could stop a .50 cal

[@ChristianR-i3g]

Live action Sam in Star Wars would be the cherry on top of the Star Wars Sundae.

[@Spaceballs30]

We were robbed of the Timothy Zahn trilogy. He would fit PERFECTLY into that timeline.

[@twofacedvic940]

When he says that force unleashed was the first to use likeness... That's not true, Onimusha with Takeshi Kaneshiro was the first, followed by many 007 games that used Pierce Brosnan as well as Jet Li in Rise To Honor, tho technically, you could say as far back as Goldeneye would technically be the first to use likeness with the entire cast being incorporated in the game.

[@chamoo232]

Those games used likeness but they were just 3d models made from pictures. What Force Unleashed did was 3d head scans and motion captures by the voice actors. Characters like Kota and Maris Brood's actors were in full makeup with fake scars and makeup for their head scans. For that, Force Unleashed was the first.

[@BOOGERking007]

I will love to see him as starkiller but I wouldn’t know how that will fit in cannon especially with the sith dlc The dude killed everyone

[@SocalCoyote]

I hope Sam can find a character better suited to be in live action. I really, really doubt Lucasfilm would bring Starkiller into canon and have him be as he was in legends. There's no way Starkiller from Force Unleased would fit into new material.

[@GrahamCStrouse]

I tend to agree.

[@EdwardHiller]

I was hoping so hard that the mysterious Inquisitor in Ahsoka was gonna take off his mask and we were going to see star killer. It would have been an easy home run.

[@Boomblast57]

The big problem is if starkiller does get put into a series or film it means he’d have to be seriously depowered due to him literally being a god in the games

[@Athrun274]

I want to see a clash between The Apprentice of Skywalker and the Apprentice of Vader

[@flashproduction9888]

I want star killer to be cannon so bad

[@SynysterGoose]

If anyone deserves a main character it’s Sam.

[@gmchuge__7098]

Starkiller would be so hard to canonize. I’d absolutely love to see him Live Action and I’d be really interested in how they could pull it off

[@chamoo232]

Canon is crap now. What we need is remasters of the 2 games. Star Wars Legends Force Unleashed 1-2 remastered. When that proves to sell well... Force Unleashed 3.

[@Friendlyfirefish]

​@@chamoo232 enough with remasters/remakes. Ask for new things. You guys always go on about how media is creatively bankrupt but then in the next sentance ask for the easy cash cows. No wonder it's bankrupt, why try when people will shell out their hard earned money on you doing next to nothing.

[@chamoo232]

@@Friendlyfirefish What I want is Force Unleashed 3 but it would be unrealistic to make it on it's own over 14 years after the last game. The first games were way back on the PS3 and 360. This isn't about replaying the first games with prettier graphics. It's about finishing the trilogy and realistically it would require remasters of the first game to have a chance of succeeding.

[@Friendlyfirefish]

@chamoo232 what trilogy? It wasn't much of a cohesive story to begin with. They should have just ended it with 1. At least then things kind of tied together.

[@chamoo232]

@@Friendlyfirefish I agree that the first one on it's own would have been better than getting a rushed sequel with an ending that lead nowhere. But if the 3rd game was done properly, it could save the story. We never found out why Vader cloned Starkiller and we don't know what happens after he gets captured. Ideas that were talked about for the 3rd game was showing Vader lost on purpose because he had a bigger plan for something.