De-Infantilizing STAR WARS (It Works)

[@Beghast-tv]

If you liked the video, come check out my review on The Acolyte. I'd love to hear your opinion!

[@fyfyi6053]

Can u stop comparing Rogue One with ANDOR? Andor is great. While Rogue One is shyte.

[@melgibson1211]

Andor really is the only diamond in a giant pile of Disney Star Wars coal

[@melgibson1211]

@@fyfyi6053 I think Rogue One was initially supposed to be more like Andor, but they completely changed it before release

[@Rope257]

@@fyfyi6053 Literally (re)written by the same guy, but yea lets not compare. 😆

[@paddywall8531]

hey where do u get alot of the music u used in the video? some really great pieces, do u know the names of the songs?

[@rippilot2113]

Cassian getting arrested for something completely unrelated to any of his actual crimes was a great bit of storytelling as a way to show how pervasive and corrupt the Empire really is at a civilian level.

[@MercerCreate]

It's what Luthen wanted. He wanted the Empire to Crack down on everyone

[@laurieocathail2441]

really

[@MercerCreate]

Yes he said it multiple times. The heist put them over the edge. The passed the Piblic Order Decree which gave them the power to arrest anyone with hardly a reason for it. This is why Cassian was arrested. This kind of thing was exactly the response Luthen wanted. " we need the Empire to help. Oppression breeds rebellion "​@laurieocathail2441

[@drksideofthewal]

"It actually wouldn't be so bad living under the Empire as a Human." Star Wars has needed to quash this notion for a long time.

[@ParameterGrenze]

Yes. And the scene were he tells another prisoner that he was innocent was just met with a dry “Yeah, we see more and more of those” instead of amused doubt, which would have been the traditional way of such a scene going down.

[@rabbitguy1984]

"Can you stand to see the Imperial flag reign across the galaxy?" "Its not a problem if you don't look up." I know its just star wars, but dang, that feels like something you'd hear people say during just about any oppressive regime or political thing. People just wanting to live their lives and be left alone. It's something we all feel. I haven't watched this show, but it really feels like the star wars that i've wanted them to make forever. I might just have to check it out.

[@71Chevelle1989]

It's honestly my favorite Star Wars content outside of the Clone Wars. It's almost perfect on every level

[@dwaneanderson8039]

That dialog is from "Rogue One."

[@peytongonavy]

Jsyk

[@literatemax]

@@71Chevelle1989 Honestly, it might be better than The Clone Wars to me. I feel like there are certain parts of The Clone Wars that I like more than Andor, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted to skip entire episodes or even arcs on a re-watch of the series. Not so with Andor.

[@kelvingriffiths6017]

People are talking like it nowadays friend. Thats why andor did so well too.

[@ber210513]

Me watching the bit about Dora: "well that's an odd angle, I guess..." Dora's map and the sith dagger juxtapose: "oooh daaaang!"

[@SpacePizza2006]

That was my exact reaction.

[@mountainghoti1671]

All I could hear in my head was, "I'M THE MAP!"

[@derkylos]

That dagger has to be the worst part of Disney Star Wars.

[@TheHalogen131]

​@@mountainghoti1671 I'M ALL THE MAPS!

[@worldcomicsreview354]

@@mountainghoti1671 "Hey, remember Waterworld?" "That awful 90's turkey?" "Let's use ideas from it!"

[@seanwesley2034]

Andor has my favorite dialogue in all of Star Wars, I was and still am blown away by it at times. The "I burn my decency for someone else's future" line hits so hard.

[@tilly6973]

I JUST realised the sound Tie fighters make is maybe DELIBERATELY terrifying to enemies, just like the STUKA dive bomber's sirens in WW2

[@A2Moonclaw]

Star Wars has many resemblances of WWII and other conflicts.

[@AZTLANSOLDIER13]

One of my favorite sounds there is. So iconic

[@seanmurphy7011]

I thought it was because George Lucas thought it sounded cool.

[@Tentacl]

It's actually pretty close to the Stuka up to the middle of the sound, it's clearly where it was inspired from.

[@RHS_video_club]

the sound they make in space?

[@abrahamtomahawk]

One of the things that solidified the realism for me was (and I've noted this on quite a few Andor review videos) the use of the Highlands of Scotland for the Aldhani was genius. Not only were the landscapes wonderful (the Cruachan Dam works so well as the imperial base), but the landscapes and ruined houses of a people pushed from their land during the Highland Clearances added a realism and gravitas to the story of the Aldhani people which mirrored the real landscapes and empty communities where they filmed this part of the show.

[@mashphat]

I'm glad to see this comment. After watching it I immediately went looking online for chatter about this and didn't really find any. I wondered for ages whether it was a deliberate choice to draw parallels between Aldhani and the Highland Clearance, or if they just chose the location and that part was coincidence.

[@karolszykowny8627]

I'm not from the UK, and initially thought they filmed it somewhere in Ireland. Which would also be a perfect setting for this story, with some design changes, so it would happen during The Troubles.

[@abrahamtomahawk]

@@mashphat I didn't watch it until about 6 months after the fact, so I had assumed all the chatter had just died down.

[@Native_Creation]

@@karolszykowny8627 there are some definite* allusions to Irish resistance

[@karolszykowny8627]

@@Native_Creation Really? Anything more concrete than the "general vibe" of the setting? People, events?

[@Habu12]

Luthen's monologue about sacrifice was superb. Gives me chills and puts a lump in my throat. And Stellan Skarsgärd was the perfect person to deliver it.

[@TheX-Philes]

It was like those words were just bubbling away inside, kinda knowing that he was gonna be asked by the officer, and when he was asked it just poured out. "(F**KING) EVERYTHING!"

[@GeordieSwordsman]

Imagine being so confident in your writing that you have the balls to drop that monologue in the same episode as Kino Loy's.

[@TheX-Philes]

@@GeordieSwordsman Episode of poetry!

[@user-wb8iu1hl6i]

@@GeordieSwordsman Yeah it's still so crazy that the greatest speech in the entire 40+ history of the franchise happens, and it only lasts 10 minutes before it gets one-upped yet again. That episode is bonkers

[@flatman3134]

"The rate of oppression outpaces our ability to understand it" is something I'm afraid I'll keep hearing in the back of my head throughout my whole life.

[@carley4063]

Andor's "One Way Out" is one of my favorite star wars stories. Absolute gold.

[@VirallVariety]

So good they could’ve made a standalone show based off that ep

[@S0meRand0mP3rs0n._.]

and then the reference in Rogue One “do you think anyone is listening?”. Damn

[@Leotique]

Same

[@sixter4157]

The "Show me, don't tell me." is such an important concept. It is a lesson so many people miss. I think that is what made the Han shot first controversy such a big deal. Greedo shooting first puts Han in a self defense position. Han shooting first confirms his scoundrel character. He is a survivor and isn't above underhanded tricks. It speaks of his moral character and makes his transformation from being out for himself into the guy that saves Luke's bacon and says "You're all clear kid, now let's blow this thing and go home." Seeing the special edition confused me so much. As a kid I clearly remember seeing A New Hope in the theater, not sure what year, I was born in '74. I definitely saw it before Empire came out.

[@TheRogueX]

I am and always have been OK with Han being a morally ambiguous character who is in the fight more because the Empire is a threat to his way of life and to the people that he loves than because he's a "good guy."

[@sixter4157]

@@TheRogueX I think in general we are in agreement. His morally ambiguous traits are what made Han a great character. Ben did describe Mos Eisley as a "wretched hive of scum and villainy" and his shooting first just showed he wasn't an exception at the time of chartering the Millennium Falcon. Letting Greedo get the drop on him just seemed out of character to me and diminished his development as a character.

[@Skitdora2010]

Han didn't shoot because he was a scoundrel, he did it because the other guy was a bounty hunter. He had no intention of being brought in by a bounty hunter. I don't understand why they had to make an issue of self-defense, as just that meeting made him have to act in self-defense. When you are a gambler and the mob sends somebody to either collect from you or dispose of you, there is no real good guy. If it was just a government tax collector and he shot first, well then he was a scoundrel, and then I see them needing to make him feel threatened to try to make him look like a good guy.

[@white6505]

star wars is an interesting franchise in the way that one generation can bond with another over the franchise like that. or at least it could, when star wars wasnt butchered.

[@Veles343]

@@Skitdora2010 it's the whole going back to a fairytale thing. Shooting someone first is not something a hero in a fairytale does. I think people were annoyed that they were trying to turn Han into the fairytale hero, and there was so much other stuff in the film that didn't make him a fairytale hero, it just didn't make sense.

[@istp1967]

"You put a number of options on the table; and they're so wrapped up in choosing, they don't even notice you didn't give them anything they actually wanted!" No truer words have ever been spoken.

[@TrueEnglishMan01]

Consumer capitalism

[@JordanTheImpaler69]

Kind of sounds like what the WEF, WHO and our own government give us: choices we never wanted to begin with.

[@TopShelfTheology]

Elections.

[@blairchartrand2447]

Netflix

[@WildGooseChasing]

Parenting

[@AzathothLives]

I was late to Andor, I'd already written off Disney shows after Obi-Wan and Mando, and Book of Bubba Feet. Finally went back and watched it and was gobsmacked. This is what I'd been wanting from a Starwars show for ages. Hope they keep it running...

[@norkshit]

Bubba Feet

[@furyflare72]

Bubba Feet 😂😂😂

[@zrATT_]

When you type F into your search browser:

[@mikesanders2500]

The show was boring.

[@AzathothLives]

@@mikesanders2500 Not really. Watching a complex story with good characters play out is something that is satisfying to watch. More interesting than a show which is all style and no substance.

[@sewage1510]

This video should be mandatory viewing for everyone at Disney Lucasfilm.

[@worldtraveler930]

I second that motion!!! 🤠👍

[@bradleyakulov3618]

@@worldtraveler930 Third.

[@Mandalorian_of_Christ]

They won't pay attention. All they worry about is making something that will upset the old fans

[@Michalosnup]

What i really love about andor is that every action has a consequence, and that consequance is in small and in big picture. One of the big themes is that if you are to start a rebelion, innocent people will suffer. if you make a mistake, people will die. And if someone dies, it is real, people who die aren't just props, they aren't just part of nameless mass. And they just don't somehow return.

[@cruzeradj1773]

Somehow, Palpatine returned

[@abeautifuldayful]

True, and yet, the urge to control others using the love of money, power, and glory is too strong for some to resist. Empires die. But they return with similar characters because of this. Their message? To make everything "great again."

[@jackmaher4466]

@@abeautifuldayful You have been deceived. Those in power and control now are the ones using power, money and the state to stay in power. They are in bed with big corporations and the oligarchs. What rights has the Orange Man tried to take from you? Those in power now want to limit free speech. Are against the second amendment. Actively working to control the internet and what can be heard on it. Force injections of experimental drugs. And worst of all propagating endless wars.

[@thureintun1687]

try living under regime like burma has for just a year or two and try say that same thing again Westerners are so naive. . they think their problems are so big, their government is so cruel and oppressive, meanwhile literal kids are shoot to death on the street somewhere... NOTE died were all as Homo sapiens as YOU are

[@thureintun1687]

one question answered: "What if innocent peoples are already suffering to an extent no difference from death itself?" I know death could hav been literal end of existence for oneself... But there are circumstances on the same planet you're living where people are literally nothi g more than slaves of a family of army general. Trust me, even what andor shown, burmese people gonna lol at them because all of the so called "suffering" shown seems fictional lmao🤣 . Yeah, i know suffering can be felt in everywhere and is respective to someone's subjective life exp. and enviroment. But you just cant say "having a bad healthcare at time= people getting shoot to death randomly for no apparent reason" .. It just doesn't make sense objectively Oh what? Racism? 😂😂 Come see how we treat brown color people from india over here even tho same treatment had been inflicting upon us by chinese for decades 😅 Irony Thee so call racism in US may existed in the past, with slavery. But no one say a word about slavery that worldwide during British empire reigns. And no one say a thing about people getting enslaved all along the southern borders of china... Westerners are just dumb. Deal with that. They may excel at contributions to mankind as a whole, and progress of science in general. They also has massive cultural influence over us even who living in opposite face of the planet even national hometown musics are type of rock or country or jazz of sort. Also Hollywood. Also video games and software development. I mean i can list countless more contributions done by the westerners and thy gap over easterner in that regard... is massive, far far greater than you could ever imagine. Just the technology and scientific advancement/contributions by americans and brits alone, could account for huge chunk of overall humans progress! But despite all those good things, westerners are utterly dumb at understanding social sufferage/situations and circumstances.. They know sht about social espionage too 😂😂 I mean they've been exploited by eastern espionage for half a century already, and thy still think their own government is THE biggest enemy ever(enemy im book= those who has potential to inflict damage/sadness upon you, your family or loved ones, and also hated you either personally/racially/nationalistically/ etc. ) Naive naive naive naive

[@Bayan1905]

Andor to me was everything I wanted to see in Star Wars for a long time. A darker tone, much more adult than what we've gotten from The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Boba Fett and the Sequel Trilogy. Andor to me is a thinking person's Star Wars, the writers treating us like adults and given us a show written for an adult audience. No gimmicks, gags, cute little humor, etc. Just good writing, dialog and presentation.

[@Leon-bc8hm]

Same. Mandalorian was superficial with some cool bits, Boba Fett was really bad, And Ahsoka not seen it but I am not thrilled.

[@Brismo7]

and no stupid baby yoda...

[@jankoodziej877]

That is something I don't quite understand. Why people expect that movies that were always aimed at young audience will change to be aimed at grown ups? I had fun watching the new Star Wars movies, but I never treated them seriously.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@jankoodziej877not aimed at young audiences. Aimed at the population at large.

[@cloudmaster182]

​@jankoodziej877 well, they werent originally targeted at kids. It was definitely more of a older kids/young adult vibe until Ep6 went all in on selling to 12 yr olds. I think a lot of the legends stuff and revenge of the sith especially retained a lot of that more mature aspect that the movies focused on less. Especially during the prequel period. If you read star wars novels coming out between 2000-2012, some of those shits are definitely above like a child's level of understanding Outside of star wars, its VERY common for IPs to mature w their audiences. Batman for example wasnt orginially the "dark and gritty" character we all know him as. For like 30+ years he was a typical, save-the-day, foil the villains good guy. It wasnt til like the 80s that writers started to explore more mature aspects surrounding what he does and his character and psychology. And it happened to stick. And yhat was a trend in the comic industry in the 80s, specifically because the audience that was buying comic books was maturing, and the stories were written to reflect that I dont think its unreasonable. The prequels present a much grayer, less clear morality than the originals, and that is specifically bc GL wanted it to mature with his audience (while also still making them marketable for kids, yes) This imo is what leads to things like rogue one/andor and a desire to see more stuff like it

[@pricerowland]

The corporate machinery of Disney sees Star Wars merely as an aesthetic, and does not understand that what people loved was the underlying spark of humanity.

[@PrinceOfWhaless]

And the super cool space wizards.

[@carloko08]

the degenerates of disney dont know the word DECENCY, for them everybody is depraved and junkies as them so their narrative is to show the same social chaos that rule in L.A. and they are working and fighting to make everybody lose their DECENCY as they lost long time ago, so they use the media to achieve their goals, the real war in this world is againt THIS KIND OF CRIMINALS

[@ethand.1864]

​@patrickprince7305 especially the space wizards

[@pyerack]

And the amateur "film makers" they keep bringing on to write and direct their shows just see it as a jump pad to kick start their careers. Seriously so many of the shows and films under Disney just look like something I'd see in my highschool "Video and Film" class except with a crazy high budget.

[@Arminian100]

I mean... They produced Andor, so clearly they do. They just seem to be inconsistent in it's application.

[@Paul5013S]

How the plot is driven and how the characters are integrated makes this some of the best Star Wars content there is. The show conveys a story in a natural way. Everything feels like it could happen in the given circumstances - barely anything that feels artificial and only in small dosages, that add some tension and joy (Brasso headbutt) without compromising the perceived realism of the show's entirety. Syril Karn doesnt give some evil speech and tells us how bad the empire is, he is socially awkward and comes across as believing in what he is doing, as most in his position would tell themselves. The heist isn't some master plan of a group of heroes, it has flaws and fails due to stuff they couldn't control - named characters die unceremoniously without any heroics as they would realistically. Marva doesn't gives Andor some emotional speech at her death bed, she dies off screen without a personal goodbye, as it can happen in reality. Characters are treated as real people, not plot devices devided into essential main characters and exposable side/background characters. Not only did that make the story believable, it finally made the empire threatening again, because the only big ones we knew to be safe from chance and circumstance were Andor and Mothma. There were no Luke or Vader, that would undoubtedly make it to the end of the trilogy. The show managed to make the story convincing for the setting it was told in. The story happened due to individual decisions, actions and chance, not the other way around: events feeling like they were specifically created to advance the story - good writing.

[@prollymarkus]

this is perfectly stated! you’ve wrapped up exactly what i couldn’t articulate myself

[@harrykatsaros]

If I were in charge I would back up a truck full of money onto Tony Gilroy’s driveway and get down on hands and knees begging him to become the custodian of this entire franchise.

[@eriviscale2]

You just verbalized everything i loved about Andor and Rogue One perfectly. Brilliant video. Great editing as well. You have got a new subscriber.

[@lt1eg6]

I'm not a star wars guy, never really was. The first ones felt....antiquated. The latter simply fun. The new stuff utterly forgettable to me. Andor and Rogue One felt like proper exciting and full movies personally. Taut storytelling at its finest.

[@stevebreedlove9760]

Commented the same before I saw this.

[@TheHoojo]

Absolutely.

[@murasaki848]

Problem for me is Rogue One was so terribly concerned with wrapping things up in a bow that the logic holes were too distracting for me to really appreciate it. I love gritty, ambiguous stories. The main thing I like about Empire Strikes Back is it was the one movie in the original trilogy where everyone basically loses something in the ongoing grind of war. Even Vader is internally so confused by Luke's escape (I believe a part of him was relieved, knowing what would otherwise happen) that he loses touch with his Dark Side fueled rage at failure. But Rogue One fell apart for me with things like blowing up the expensive data installation after the information is already out in the open just to explain why none of the characters were in the original. Or holding the Tantive IV helpless in the hold of another ship with Leia onboard during a very pitched battle just to explain why A New Hope begins with a star destroyer chasing it down. Or why Galen sent a hologram of himself to Saw instead of, say, some relevant portion of the Death Star plans. (Seriously, go watch "Everything Wrong with Rogue One" for a full rundown). I ended up just chucking this one on the rest of the Disney heap.

[@a_rat_named_mouse]

​​@@murasaki848 Excepting "Andor", "Rogue One" is the best of Disney Star Wars. Which is saying almost nothing, considering its competition are things like "The Rise of Skywalker", "The Book of Boba Fett" and "Ahsoka"... It's, like, a 4/1o. Which is still leagues above the 2/1o highs of "Kenobi", so... Meamwhile, "Andor" is absolutely phenomenal.

[@80Jay71]

I have to give credit where it's due. The montage at the end was well thought through, planned and edited! I bet it took much more work than it seems at first glance. Well done!

[@tennolife9930]

Sure rallied me up to fight the empire, that was beautiful.

[@McDonaldsCalifornia]

Also a lot of the match cuts and thematically fitting clips thrown in throughout the video are very well executed

[@lawrencium2626]

my observations exact!

[@80Jay71]

@@McDonaldsCalifornia Agree, but the end-montage blew me of my chair! (And I have been a teacher in Adobe Premiere and Photoshop)

[@Itchy__]

I literally cried a little, most of these characters die fighting for or against a system whos only purpose is to give sheev and his goons power at the expense of literally everyone else ;-;

[@manuelcisneros8004]

That edit ("A Little Extra") is outstanding- truly one of the best edits I've ever seen for a show or movie. Makes me smile to see so many people respecting and cherishing the greatest work of Star Wars streaming there is, and quite possibly will ever be.

[@Mallerd]

These movies dont make me feel like a kid but like a child. Is such a damn good line

[@gonaye1]

Hear, hear! I literally stopped what I was doing and restarted the video when he said that. Before the video ended I’d already subscribed.

[@nathanthegreathan6464]

Definitely one of the best takeaways from this piece, and there’s so many!!

[@elfieblue3175]

I thought I'd just become bored with the whole franchise, but this one soundbite encapsulated my vague dissatisfaction.

[@worldcomicsreview354]

"Writing for boys is really writing for adults. Any hint of trying to talk down to him, and he spots you at once and casts the thing aside!" - Charles Hamilton

[@kostishasopoulos9816]

@@gonaye1 you get sold easlily

[@davidci]

You just casually dropped one of the best Andor edits in the last 10 minutes and no one's commenting about it?!

[@corndag3652]

Fuck yeah dude that was absolutely masterful! I can’t believe this guy doesn’t have a few million subs

[@LasseMan83]

I was scrolling through the comments looking for that as well. It was a masterpiece of an edit.

[@pw6002]

Tbh, I found the "A little extra" part completely forced and a cheating way to make the video seem longer than it actually is. And I love Andor, and I love all the rest of the video.

[@steprockmedia]

@@pw6002 More masterful editing for the rest of us. I thought it was brilliant.

[@pw6002]

@@steprockmedia Let’s say the trailer is probably a cool way to motivate people who had not seen the show to go watch it. But I thought I would get a 25 minutes analysis about Andor and how to de-infantilize Star Wars, where in fact the analysis was only 16 minutes long, plus a 9 minute-long trailer. Hence my disappointment.

[@mckinney9739]

The fact that this show is still being talked about regularly and positively is a testament to the quality and true meaningfulness of the series

[@literatemax]

God I hope they don't mess up S2

[@RictusHolloweye]

There's only so much time that can be spent complaining about the things that went wrong. Enjoying the things that went right, however, is timeless.

[@disposablebody3379]

it was boring

[@vanlllasky]

@@disposablebody3379 did you click on this video, immediately pause it, then run to the comments to yell about how you didn't pay attention to Andor because you can't handle a more adult Star Wars?

[@guruware8612]

@@vanlllasky Ah, you mean the more adult star wars, where they run around disguised by wearing hoddies, turning around every second to check if we got detected. Then a sudden stop at a wall to ponder about life. This idiot is followed, what is this "adult" doing to get somewhere unnoticed ? Luckily there are the white troopers with a can of coke on their back, which - wearing armor/helmet - can be knocked out by bare hand by an adult (the one and only adult-stuff). Or having no time, all happens under preasure, and then they find time to chat for some 2-3 minutes, adult stuff yes. Or flying around in the galaxy with hyperspeed, but hatches are opening like the whole ship is powered by steam. whoos-pfffft-shhhh. Or, or, or... adult Star Wars, yep. Robots having a fist-fight ? Ok, that was the awesome ashoka-nonsense, where girls are standing around with folded arms, trying to look important or wise.

[@trevordion4644]

Holy shit, man. Your editing of 'A Little Extra' is one of the most brilliant and moving pieces I've ever witnessed. It tapped into the very essence of what I've been craving from Star Wars. Hell, what I've been craving from all content creators.

[@rashkavar]

One thing that's very worth noting regarding how Star Wars simplifies the classic science fiction tropes like artificial and alien intelligent life forms comes down to that line a little later you had about how it's a story about humans. One of those humans, a crime lord, just so happens to be a slug person. One of the rebellion's admirals, another person, just happens to be a fish person. Two of the most prevalent people in the 6 Lucasfilm movies are metal, and one of them is a 3 foot tall cylinder that communicates with beeping. There's a certain beauty to that - fundamentally, intelligent life forms are people, and for Star Wars, the only reason it matters is that some of the actors have to show up 6 hours early to do makeup and prosthetics so they can shoot the scene. It's no wonder most of the main cast are humans, actors who play aliens and robots in these things have a hellish schedule, and since Star Wars isn't really focused on the possible difficulties of communication between different species (as opposed to shows like Star Trek and Babylon 5, both of which had several alien characters who show up in most episodes), they have less trouble with telling a story where most of the cast can wear normal costumes. (Also, I'm not sure the world of 1977 was ready for the love story between Han Solo the Fish Man and Leia the Slug Lady. Even today that's only gonna work for a pretty small subset of the audience.)

[@Lithrus_]

Reminds me of another great show, Bojack Horseman. The main character and most of the cast are talking animals living in the same human world we live in, but the fact that they're animals is purely for show and they're humans in every other way.

[@theoldleafybeard]

You could see those kind of love stories though in less mainstream stories, often in sci-fi comics (and even more in books, of course). Perhaps aimed at more open-minded people profiles somehow, I don't know.

[@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid]

You left out something that one of the Characters of Rogue One makes their Life about: Droids are Slaves. They are stronger, smarter, and longer-lived than are Humanity, but they are not “allowed” by the Galactic Civilization to “Live as Free People.” Some of us are working with the technologies that will eventually BE these sorts of “People” to create a new type of Film/Movie/TV Entertainment, where the Stories HAVE NO “ACTORS,” but are populated with characters who ARE THEMSELVES. Currently these will be scripted. But there are already efforts at creating “Toy Universes” in which a small population of such “AIs” live, and have rules for how they must provide for themselves, how they procreate to create new “people” in these tiny Universes, so that one day we might have a “Universe” constructed to meet specific criteria, where the “Characters” are given certain roles, “Fates,” and so on… Where we will get new “Stories” to watch that have no “Authors” in the way current Movies/TV/Books, etc. do. But… This comes back to the Droids…. How would these “characters” feel to discover that their Universe is a fabrication made for entertainment? And that they are basically “Slaves.” Gives a new perspective to Ancient Religious Faiths, for that matter.

[@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid]

@@Lithrus_ Have you seen Beastars? The main characters and ALL of the Cast are Animals, where Society is divided between Predator and Prey, Carnivore, Omnivore, and Herbivore. And a Predator and Prey fall in Love.

[@JayMaverick]

it's about FaMiLyyeehh

[@kippgoeden]

Andor is the greatest thing to happen to Star Wars. It truly made the rebellion real and understandable. It took away the whimsical nature and smacked us with the truth…and I absolutely love it.

[@Leon-bc8hm]

100% A mature take on SW.

[@ssShockRyder]

now we just need the real ewoks . the little terror bears that eat anything that moves

[@mjt1517]

@@ssShockRyderthat would require a new series called "Endor".

[@JamieFurlong]

Very well put, these were my sentiments exactly.

[@randomando9257]

Andor is so trash lol

[@Beghast-tv]

Yesterday, it was confirmed that Andor Season 2 has officially completed filming! I genuinely hope it will be as good, if not better, than the first season. Thank you for all the comments; I've read them all. It truly shows how passionate the fanbase is and how frustrating the direction Disney has taken is for most of us. However, Andor is proof that when the marketing department does not force artistic choices onto the director, a fantastic piece of media can still be produced.

[@auroraflash]

It's exciting news to hear that Andor Season 2 has wrapped up filming! It's always a positive sign when a passionate fanbase is engaged and hopeful about the upcoming season. The acknowledgment of the fan comments and the emphasis on the importance of artistic freedom for the director in creating a fantastic piece of media is an interesting perspective. It reflects the ongoing dialogue between fans and creators in navigating the balance between creative vision and commercial interests. Let's hope that Andor Season 2 lives up to expectations and continues to deliver a compelling story.

[@LaloSalamancaGaming69]

Dawg if you hate fantasy on starwars just watch any boring drama you can find on some movie channel on tv 😂

[@gothxm]

what is this @4:32 from? that shot of a padawan kissing a princess. It looks like anakin and padme but i dont remember this scene at all.

[@samwise7538]

@@auroraflash The irony of posting this AI shit on a post about creativity.

[@samwise7538]

@@gothxmA film called The Princess Bride. It's a brilliant movie and well worth a watch!

[@bubbles093]

The edits in the “a little extra” section had me applauding. The way you matched shots and dialogue choices were BRILLIANT. I cannot wait for Andor season 2, and the way I’m gonna feel doing a binge of the whole series followed by Rogue One!

[@BillyCobbOfficial]

It’s a miracle that Andor exists, no idea how it got past those Disney executives

[@syproful]

It’s like at LEGO something that needs to click. And that something will be money. Adults have money, and money will decide over time, good or bad.

[@pedrorigoli4398]

​@@syproful I loved Andor series... but unfortunatelly, against your theory, I think it was one of the least successful Star Wars shows, even when the critics have been outstanding... I thought it could have been the start of a new era of Star Wars, and now I think it worked the other way around... they took the risk, and in terms of money (which is the only thing they'll care) it wasn't the way to go... Personally, I can't understand why Andor wasn't for children or light focused people, but neither Breaking Bad, however BB was one of the most successful series, while Andor dropped in terms of popularity... I can't blame on Disney for this, I can only blame Star Wars fans on this... they had the chance to let Disney know what they were doing wrong, and what kind of content is appreciated, and fans wasted the opportunity. We can't always complain about what Disney does wrong, if we choose to watch content we criticize, and we don't watch the content we're asking for...

[@syproful]

@@pedrorigoli4398 that is very unfortunate to hear. The styling and decor were tight. At least that exists. I still watch Band of Brothers once every two years, 20 years later. So we are good.

[@thenewexeptor]

@@pedrorigoli4398 I feel the same as you minus the disappointment from the fans reaction. At the end we are at fault here as we try to sit on two chairs simultaneously - one is the Star Wars movies and the whole idea there (which we obviously like a lot) and the desire to watch something deeper, more philosophical and provocative if you like. I feel that these two are not destined to bring big money any time soon.

[@Winaska]

Cause they billed it as being anti Trump

[@CralexKokiri]

As an aspiring author, I know how tempting it can be to sit down and explain everything. But this video essay serves as an excellent reminder of how much more satisfying it is show without telling. Both for the creator and the one enjoying the work.

[@JordanTheImpaler69]

For real. Learning to show not tell is a skill, don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. It's a muscle that you must workout and feel the pain of barely being able to do it, but then the next time you return to do some more reps (words/pages), your ability to show not tell has strengthened. The best fiction for me is the fiction where the author uses descriptions of where, when, regarding who, to inform the reader but never giving away the why without it being through a personal revelation of a character through THEIR struggle and search for truth. Because then it feels like it was my struggle, too.

[@AngelofDethMetal]

Telling without showing shows that the writer does not know their own story.

[@Draggeta]

One youtube channel explained that in the old days you couldn't write a script and have it accepted. You'd write the story first only explaining the subtext you'd want to convey and why something is happening and only then fill in what dialogue and actions would convey this.

[@MollyHJohns]

I understand now (I used to write my first story with much unnecessary info unrelated to the plot or flow of the story lol). In my case it's called infodumping.

[@alexandrahill9176]

As a writer myself I this also clicked hard for me.

[@MrHereWeGoYo]

Great video. Anytime we can remind ourselves of the greatness of Andor I'm all for it. I wasn't shocked when he killed the cop but the scene from Rogue One immediately came to mind. I thought to myself, "This is going to tell how serious they are." BAM! "Yes!" Andor was a complete breathe of fresh air. It is easily my favorite bit of Star Wars since The Empire Strikes back. Just as Rogue One is my favorite Star Wars movie since the original trilogy.

[@coha348]

I thought I was the only one that liked rogue one! haha

[@RodCornholio]

Agree. It's a much needed reminder that the Empire was, no joke, evil.

[@opo3628]

@@coha348 - Where did you get that idea? Especially in the present day of Star Wars, Rogue One is celebrated as being one of *the* best movies in the entire franchise.

[@jones1618]

@@opo3628 When it came out there was a prevailing mainstream response that "Oh, it's well-made and a good bit of gritty story-telling but it's not ... ahem ... Star Wars. Where's the jaunty banter, loveable characters, easy saves, and happy ending? We came for a space romp and got an adult story..."

[@erik1579]

Right the beginning of Jyn Erso, she is in jail and there are storm troopers guarding her. But instead of pristine white armors and perfect military postures in a pristine high-level installation like the Death Star; their armors are smudged, their posture is downright dejected and they are on a backwater posting. Then I knew: this is going to be something new.

[@yondertf2]

That edit at the end had me crying. There are few pieces of media that have left such an impact on me, very few that I lie awake thinking about, very few that expose vulnerability and feel like they leave an open wound that never really closes.

[@iannnn1455]

Bruh same, it had me in tears, such beautiful writing

[@jacobbarton9701]

Luthan's monologue to Lonni always gets me

[@EbonyPope]

The problem is that even if Disney had still its best writers you have to keep in mind that it is a kids/family brand. Even if the writing was better it fundamentally clashes with the themes in Star Wars. Yes, I know Andor is good but that is a rare exception. It should have never gotten sold to Disney since what they do best isn't Sci-Fi.

[@scottcutler7749]

I was in tears too.. because it speaks to the struggles of our time

[@Ojja78]

Dude, finish your thought. You started making a point and didn't finish it. Say what you want to say and don't lazily expect others to fill in the blanks for you. "there are few pieces....never really closes". What you want to say next is that this made you feel that way. You didn't say that, though. All you said is that it made you cry and you said this BEFORE making your next point.

[@haleymj553]

the background character walking between Han and Leia @12:03 is just chef's kiss, it really grounds the world and reminds us just how much is going on around them, it just feels so real in a way that I feel most films would avoid if it wasn't specifically furthering the plot.

[@sabotabo7476]

i always like to imagine he was standing in the back for a good 10 seconds contemplating whether it was worth it to awkwardly squeeze past this annoying squabbling couple taking up the entire hall or if he should just find another way around

[@niekka1978]

Amazing world building, making you even think what the background characters are doing off screen :)

[@jasperzanovich2504]

@@sabotabo7476 I guess you have never done menial task to the point of not giving a damn.

[@cykeok3525]

He's also a guy who left his home to serve in an armed rebellion against an oppressive regime, and serve it in any way he can, like so many of the technical staff in the Rebel Alliance. I'm sure he recognizes one of the leaders of the Rebellion, and one of the decorated heroes of Yavin, having a squabble in the narrow corridor bored into the ice of Hoth, but he's rushing to complete his own task of getting some important piece of equipment somewhere quickly (and he'd really rather not eavesdrop anyway). I wouldn't have thought about it either, but now that we've called attention to it, there's so much realism from that little detail.

[@TheX-Philes]

Damn man that last 19:51 extra bit actually brought a little tear to my eye, masterfully done, I'm about ready to start a revolution myself!

[@sirbachelorboredmen1314]

Ngl The context fits what's happening at the Palestine rn. The similarity is scary.

[@mistrfinga]

​@@sirbachelorboredmen1314The world rn...

[@timbonthuus1619]

@@sirbachelorboredmen1314 The antisemetic cult that goes in and slaughters over 1000 people at a peace concert, are anti democracy, and throw gays off high rise buildings are like rebels fighting an opressive empire?

[@EbonyPope]

The problem is that even if Disney had still its best writers you have to keep in mind that it is a kids/family brand. Even if the writing was better it fundamentally clashes with the themes in Star Wars. Yes, I know Andor is good but that is a rare exception. It should have never gotten sold to Disney since what they do best isn't Sci-Fi.

[@astrosherlock374]

*The CIA wants to know ur location*

[@MontanaEVO]

You unintentionally made a better trailer for Andor and gritty, realistic Star Wars than Disney ever could. Props to you 🤝🏽

[@Leotique]

Its a great if not the greatest trailer, but its not better than the official, since the real trailers can't spoil too much

[@spicydaddy2526]

This is a great video essay. Grounded, not hateful of kids or fans, not in denial about the original films. Love to see it.

[@kcinrennat2606]

This. So much this! It’s been so hard to get a thought through critique of anything star wars lately. There’s so much finger pointing, so much anger at this group or that. It’s great to see someone analyze something star wars from a far more objective view

[@SiriusMined]

The Mandalorian is a series of fetch quests that lead to other fetch quests.

[@minestar2247]

that sounds about right, isn't it what the genre is known for? and it was made in a game engine, so it might be a reference to that too

[@patdbus]

that is way to true, the only reason i watched the mandalorion in the first place wasnt because of the story or 'amazing' character building, but because funny smol dude and space cowboy tomfoolery.

[@gabbonoo]

there is only Discuss, Fetch, Fight, Craft, and Linger(for paced visual atmos) in most games and movies these days. i want an immersive Puzzle or a Fight that acts like a real time spacial puzzle. eg: Jackie Chan fighting multiple people. They dont come one at a time and they dont use slow roundhouse attacks. He uses furniture, scenery, and body blocking to deal with the numbers.

[@morganpriest7726]

MMO early game in a nutshell

[@javiersilva1577]

The first 2 seasons were solid in my opinion. The 3rd was was meh.

[@Arseassin]

Very well done - You've described in a 30 minute video what I've spent hours trying to argue to friends and family every time Star Wars debates come up.

[@WhyDaRumGone]

I was thinking the exact same thing!

[@owene2530]

Mfs will see no lightsabers or mandalorians and write it off as garbage

[@jmecucci]

same, I make the same argument with Marvel movies too, much prefer movies like Logan...

[@geronimooo260]

@@owene2530so wrong, no lightsabers, spaceships, or funny droids it’s not Star Wars, period

[@SpartanK4102]

​@@owene2530 Doesn't help when Star Wars' biggest KZbinr holds that opinion.

[@mikehall7189]

Andor was a breath of fresh air in the Star Wars universe. I agree completely that Star Wars has been going very kiddie in recent years and Andor was an antidote to all of that. Also , Skarsgard ‘s monologue is worth the price of admission alone.

[@greghannibal]

I wish they let Tony Gilroy handle Thrawn.

[@scooble]

I suspect, he would make him quite terrifying

[@guilhermeraposo6080]

Disney, really

[@patricklacey4946]

Half the universe would be dead in three episodes lol, no surprise resurrections, just dead, they not getting up again

[@greghannibal]

@@patricklacey4946 I miss when characters stayed dead. Even in the EU when they brought back some characters, they didn't go overboard with it like Disney seems to want.

[@patricklacey4946]

@@greghannibal They killed the entire starting cast of Rogue One like it was nothing, they would have killed Leia if the movie was 5 minutes longer lol. Someone died in almost every episode of Andor, I really thought Nemik would survive, I thought wrong lol

[@novembermember]

Andor feels so much like that one deleted scene from A New Hope where Luke talks to Biggs Darklighter. I love the language used in A New Hope. The style, swagger, and lingo are very 70s. Very memorable. Andor does a great job building on this style in an authentic way. It is a sincere show. Sincerity is what is often lacking when old properties are used to make new films and TV shows today.

[@Cryptic0013]

Not just shows, either. People are deathly afraid to be sincere in general, thanks to living on social media. Modern writers just also happen to be chronically online, with very little life experience outside of college and corporate jobs, and it shows.

[@novembermember]

@@Cryptic0013 Yeah, you're right. There are some very sheltered writers and it shows. Great artists are great observers - they pay attention to others and they write of humanity true, not any social fabrications nor mainstream follies.

[@fupamane9992]

The Andor compilation at the end was SOOOOO good 🥹

[@malakaiunseen]

Agreed, such a beautiful edit.

[@big15johnson]

Andor / Rogue One... My favorite of each, cinema and series!

[@bigbo1764]

Great way to put it in all honesty, nothing about the vast majority of Disney Star Wars makes their characters feel like real, sentient people; they feel like childish caricatures catered to no one other than actual children, not to the average viewer, and certainly not to any Star Wars fan. Even when making movies for children, very rarely does a child want to be treated like one, by setting up a real world with real characters and making it somewhat digestible to children, that’s how you create real, long-term fans of the franchise and it’s why so many had looked back fondly on the original trilogy and why so many of us today look back fondly on the prequels, but I can say with a fair degree of confidence that 15-20 years from now, the sequels will be nothing of note to the generation of children that had watched them.

[@TheCebulon]

This one of the best comments on Andor and it’s quality. Your style and narration are absolutely great. Kudos for achieving such great hight and amazing video. On point, subtle, straightforward, absolute highest quality.

[@Tequila628]

its*

[@teodorahlinder4056]

I very seldom write comments, but dude, what a great video. The time and care that must have gone into doing all the clips is incredible. Thank you.

[@hypocriticalgrammarnazi]

You seldom see people saying “seldom” anymore…

[@SmileyDave-h5z]

very seldom...

[@magnetronmaaltijden]

My favourite thing about Andor is how realistic it is in how it portrays the way revolutions and revolutionaries operate and have operated historically, especially how it portrays the horizontal decentralized framework that is used within those affinity groups and the toll the struggle takes on the psyche. You either quit at some point and start a family or you give your life to the struggle for freedom for all, something that a lot of people still do today.

[@ber210513]

This is a great analysis of the state of the franchise and how Andor is the show that chose to grow with its audience

[@auroraflash]

The Star Wars franchise finds itself at a critical juncture, facing both challenges and opportunities. Recent releases have sparked diverse reactions among fans, with varying opinions on creative choices, storytelling, and adherence to the established lore. Striking a balance between honoring the beloved legacy and exploring new narratives has proven to be a delicate task. The franchise's future success may hinge on its ability to navigate this delicate balance, satisfying both longstanding fans and attracting new audiences. With upcoming projects and spin-offs, the direction Star Wars takes in the coming years will undoubtedly shape its legacy in the hearts of fans across generations.

[@firewisplet6655]

​@@auroraflash ok chatgpt

[@wazkangz955]

This summary is why when I found that games like KOTOR and SWTOR existed, I played them to experience a personalized story that really felt like I was injected into this gritty world. Diving deep into a world where I could be more than just a good Jedi or comically evil Sith. The world building and storyline kept me coming back. This video essay was wonderful and throughly enjoyed it.

[@TravlerBlue]

Yea, the ability to stay roughly in the middle of light side and dark side is really nice. In both KOTOR and SWTOR I stay as "grey" as possible and it's a lot more satisfying than hard leaning one way or the other. Really makes it feel like my story as opposed to my character's story.

[@skarloeythomas5172]

@@TravlerBlue swtor is rather designed to be grey. the light and dark options are going to be self-sacrificing idealism or pragmatism, and the next time it is going to be plain decency or violent cruelty. If you played a reasonable person, the pattern is grey. for instance killing dozens to reach an NPC that offers a light option to spare isn't really sensical. Another time, the dark option is death for its own sake when the light option is a political lottery.

[@soisaus8836]

You might be a Witcher book and game enjoyer then, I can't recommend them enough.

[@lingricen8077]

How pretentious are you to literally act like you want star wars without the jedi

[@finkamain1621]

The same with the Kyle Katarn saga and Shadows of the Empire. There's always this eerie "backstage" feeling when playing some of the levels

[@halowaffle25]

11:36 You know, I had never quite managed to put this thought into words, but I think you perfectly captured what made A New Hope and Empire so special here - that they took their time to allow us to live in their world for a while. Seeing Vader without his helmet, or Luke eating rations... These aren't strictly necessary. A screenwriter who knows enough to earn a job on, say, Disney's writing team would probably be very tempted to cut these scenes, because they don't serve mechanical purpose to the plot. ...But they would be absolutely wrong to do so. Because while they may not advance the plot, they pull such heavy weight in humanizing the characters on screen, and allowing us to breathe in the atmosphere of the setting. This is really the core of my affection for the first two movies, now that I think about it. That understanding of when best to take their time and slow down... That's also where Return of the Jedi went wrong in trying to do this *too* much, but I digress.

[@RecklessFables]

JJ Abrams-style movies are intended to be frenetic so you don't think too much about the plot and just gawk at the visuals.

[@ChronoMune]

@@RecklessFablesnah both Star Treks were great

[@josiahz21]

You reminded me of an interview with Hamill, Fischer, and Ford. They had to argue with Lucas about dialogue that was way too technical and sounded like a coder speaking in DOS. It’s good to have little glimpses of the universe like eating, but it can go too far. It’s good they dialed it back, and kept us invested in the characters.

[@bbarrera86]

i think there's more to that, very little in the original trilogy seems coincidental or accidental, it seems causal. That cannot be said of episodes 7 through 9

[@pyropulseIXXI]

The prequels did this the best but I expect you’ll come up with some reason why they actually suck

[@j.s.c.4355]

Of all the Start Wars stories, only Andor makes my heart clench, and only Rogue One makes me sob.

[@artboymoy]

Andor and Rogue One are the best things to come out of Disney Star Wars. Giving us a more grounded sci fi show than space fantasy is what I look for in the property now. Great video. Thanks for making it.

[@davidfaustino4476]

They don't want you to watch. They want you to buy toys for your kids because THEYRE watching.

[@stevenqirkle]

I thought Rogue One kind of sucked. The premise of stealing plans for the death star felt kind of small to base an entire movie on. And there were a lot of long and unremarkable action sequences that I found pretty boring. I enjoyed the Force Awakens more of the newer star wars movies... although I wouldn't say any of them were great. Haven't seen Andor or any of the other spin offs yet, though.

[@YonBaBa]

I agree, Rogue One had characters that stood out and clear character arcs. Andor did as well. You also got to see so much more of the empires oppression than we have in any other movie or show. The prison episodes were some of the best of the show. I also liked that they actually fleshed out the Empires characters. Instead of them just being evil for the sake of being evil.

[@jimstartup2729]

​@@davidfaustino4476the biggest flaw in the current age of humanity. Cash rules above all else.. why make something great and timeless when you can make something cheap and easy that sells enough stuff to make quick easy predictable profit. The people that do care or have the right ideas are often over ridden by money focused management groups

[@snakepitskeleton4193]

@@stevenqirkle genuinely the worst opinion ive read so far. Simply awful. Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie to grace the silver screen.

[@fiddleriddlediddlediddle]

I miss when "child-friendly" didn't mean "children-only".

[@michaelnurse9089]

Look, Andor is pretty far from child friendly: A story of a depressed murderer on the run from the authorities.

[@kevinhulse2983]

@@michaelnurse9089 One of the best influences on me as an adult was a movie I saw as a child about a washed up alcoholic cop determined to deliver a hooker to testify against a corrupt police commissioner.

[@MiTaReX]

​@@michaelnurse9089I disagree, till very recent past kids' fairy tales were very brutal and death-heavy. The original Grimm ones, for example. A murderer on the run is not so outlandish a concept to dismiss for a younger audience. But I think intrigue and politics are concepts that are hardest to follow for the youngest audience.

[@minestar2247]

bro, child friendly before war wayyyy more exclusive that now, you realise it right?

[@someguycalledCh0wdah]

I feel like that's been more and more popular in the past decade, shows like Adventure Time, Avatar, and Steven Universe have been dealing with much more complex and grey-area subjects than ever before

[@burieddreamer]

"Calm. Kindness. Kinship. Love. I've given up all chance at inner peace. I've made my mind a sunless space. I share my dreams with ghosts. I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only one conclusion, I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight, they've set me on a path from which there is no escape. I yearned to be a saviour against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down there was no longer any ground beneath my feet." - Luthen Rael, Andor "We’re going to win this war not by fighting what we hate, but by saving what we love." - Rose, The Last Jedi

[@Mopark25]

"Heeded my words not, did you? Pass on what you have learned. Strength. Mastery. But weakness, folly, failure also. Yes, failure most of all. The greatest teacher, failure is. Luke, we are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters." - Yoda, The Last Jedi Star Wars nerds have no idea what is and isn't good. The Last Jedi is the only good thing to come out of that horrible trilogy.

[@surajganiger2837]

*rose after she almost ends up killing fin and the entire resistance

[@bendyloco]

Beau Willimon is an amazing writer for that soliloquy of Luthen’s. He wrote a three part series in Andor, this was the conclusion. All three were really good!

[@joshuageorge80]

​@@Mopark25I've got to give credit where credit is due, they made some real magic in that scene, I fear it was just too little, too late.

[@thirdcoinedge]

@@Mopark25 I think it's telling that of the sequel trilogy, The Last Jedi is the only one with quotes I actually remember.

[@AndyGaskin]

Andor is the closest to pure "Star Wars" we've gotten in a long time. If only the other productions shared a little of its DNA

[@JonJuanFigueroa]

Thank you. Star Wars is deeply personal to me. My father gave it to me, first as a novelization of an upcoming movie, then standing in lines for hours every weekend in the Summer of 1977, to asking me to put the Star Wars DVD in to watch 2 days before he passed. What Disney has mostly done to Star Warts offends me. I am only glad my Pops isn't here now to see it. Andor, however, feels true. Feels right. Feels like it honors what came before it. Pops would really love it.

[@MarysiaKosowski]

I agree. I never actually wanted a "de-infantilized Star Wars." I loved the prequels and the original trilogy just fine in all their blend of epic grandeur, romanticism, lighthearted humor, fun for all ages--and yes, fantasy archetypes. Not so keen on these new Disney sequels, though I haven't watched the shows yet.

[@RodCornholio]

Disney ruined our "Happy Ending". At risk of speaking for others, collectively, we saw _Return of the Jedi_ and assumed the main characters remained friends/lovers etc. All we wanted was to see the gang back together, as they were, kicking the butts of bad guys if necessary. Passing the torch, if necessary. Dying, if the death were _meaningful_ . Instead, we got broken relationships, broken heroes. Just dang depressing. The best Disney could do is create some _Men In Black_ Neuralyzer device to erase those movies from our memories, destroy the sequels from existence, somehow convince Lucas to, at least, outline some stories, or - even better - return it to Lucasfilm. Disney, clearly, can not be trusted with the worldwide treasure that is Star Wars. If you give a kid a Ferrari and they wreck it...

[@medatativemotivations7460]

I'm not going to lie, this comment brought tears to my eyes.. R.I.P to your father and god bless you and your family. I lost my mom 4 years ago and my father is in his late 60s so I understand exactly how you feel

[@JonJuanFigueroa]

@@medatativemotivations7460 I miss my Pops everyday. Hugs. Thank you.

[@jones1618]

@@RodCornholio Star Wars has always walked a fine line. Lucas made a rootin'-tootin' space shoot'em up with real heart, real stakes and real good and evil. People criticize some of the sequels for veering toward the rootin'-tootin' easy fun side and some people criticize the sequels and spin-offs for being too gritty real. I am OK with there being two "faces" of Star Wars. However, I do agree with you that the essential thing they shouldn't (but sometimes do) lose is honesty/authenticity. The sacrifices have to be necessary and important. The "wins" shouldn't be contrived, unearned or tricks. Sometimes, over the hours and hours and hours of Star Wars content made by hundreds and hundreds of creators they don't always get that right.

[@MrGadfly772]

I appreciate Andor so much as it finally grew up along with it's audience. I saw Star Wars when it first came out in 1977. All those thousands, millions, if people who also saw it that summer have grown up into now old adults. It is so refreshing to see the story finally catch up to its initial audience. Thank you for your excellent analysis.

[@auroraflash]

Absolutely, it's truly rewarding to see Andor mature and evolve alongside its dedicated audience. The Star Wars saga has been a part of the lives of millions who first experienced it in 1977, and witnessing the narrative resonate with the journey of its original fans is a special and nostalgic experience. The show's ability to grow and adapt while maintaining the essence of the Star Wars universe is commendable. Your appreciation for the excellent analysis further highlights the depth and significance that Andor brings to the table. Here's to the continued success and meaningful storytelling in the galaxy far, far away!

[@jonniiinferno9098]

yep - was 17 when star Wars came out - it was awesome - E.S.B. was excellent - RotJ - was pretty good - i felt they played way too much to the younger audience - i felt the the E-Woks should have been a lot more serious... then next set of SW-1 - 3 were decent - however Hayden Christensen's portrayal of Annikin Skywalker was horrible - whiny little brat - cant believe somebody didn't nix his dialogue/re-write those scenes Star Wars: Episode 7 - The Force Awakens (2015) - had so much wasted potential - i didnt watch another till Rogue One - which i thought was very good - i have kept away from the most recent Star Wars spinoffs have not watched Mandalorian - nor Andor but after watching this YT video - i think i will have to check out Andor

[@auroraflash]

@@jonniiinferno9098 also the story of episode 3 is a little sus: so Anakin got no access to the restricted area of the Jedi archives, where he hopes to find a solution to save his wife’s life by using the dark side. However, he got access to all the light side knowledge; and force healing is a light side ability. You tell me he was too stupid to tell another Jedi master that he wants to learn how to heal his Jedi comrades on the battlefield of the clone wars? Yeah, makes a lot of sense…

[@jonniiinferno9098]

@@auroraflash - agreed - somebody in the writing dept was not thinking clearly...

[@ltb1345]

@@auroraflash Force healing wasn't a thing at the time ROTS was made. It's another dumb retcon.

[@kelvingriffiths6017]

I am so with you on this. The andor example of the tie fighter is EXACTLY what real war footage of Stukas is like. I want more of that. Jurassic Park needs this mentality badly too i think.

[@Low_commotion]

It is also what _Alien_ gets right that every single one of its sequels gets wrong. Just like ninjas, having more of them on screen makes them _less_ scary. There's also a difference between framing something as a monster (horror movie framing) and framing it as an enemy (action movie framing). That tie fighter bearing down is framed like a monster.

[@cool_dude_like_really]

​@@Low_commotion very well said

[@DakotaofRaptors]

​@@Low_commotionregarding Aliens, it does make sense that they would be framed that way as the series progressed: it wasn't Ellen's first rodeo

[@2adamast]

War footage of Stukas has the sound added afterwards. The working unmuffled 32 liter V12 is also a lot of noise, while a 50 kg/250kg bomb is certainly dominant in noise and effect.

[@devonadler5835]

"The plot is advancing in an artificial, pre-planned way, and the dialogue is mostly serving the purpose of pushing the plot forward, rather than being organic interaction." This one line perfectly encapsulates my issue with modern scriptwriting! I felt it so strongly in the HBO game of thrones sequel, house of dragons. It seems like some people don't catch that the way I do, I think people generally like the show... maybe if you watch enough sitcoms and scripted tv it makes no difference. For me, if the characters don't feel real, with motivations and creative interactions between them, I can't stand to watch.

[@melon_man_dan6888]

Your editing at the end is so good. I’m reliving all my goosebumps from watching the show originally. Andor and Rogue One will forever be my favorite pieces of Star Wars. They’re grounded and show the Star Wars universe beyond the fantasy.

[@MiaogisTeas]

Honestly, the whole video was top tier.

[@patrickquade6433]

You just summed up everything I’ve felt since finishing Andor. It was so good and so dramatically DIFFERENT. The way you tied it back to the empire strikes back was really eye opening. Well done! Thank you

[@solar4planeta923]

I agree, ESB has always been my favorite of the original 3 movies for the same reason.

[@jasonshortphd]

Well done! I grew up in the 80s on military bases. I always sort of viewed them as them empire in a way. Andor is my FAVORITE bit of Star Wars. I love it so much. The soul crushing despair is exactly what I imagine it would be for everyone.

[@PlayNowWorkLater]

Agree that Andor is the best thing to come out of the Star Wars universe in years. Definitely need to have stories that are designed for Adults.

[@krkngd-wn6xj]

"The pace of oppression outstrips our ability to understand it" is a really good quote, god. For me, an Eastern European, that is a feeling I get every time I read the news from my country.

[@lunar5616]

Reletable af, Poland here

[@francischambless5919]

@@lunar5616 Absofraggenlutely, coming from a US citizen marginalized. History is being rewritten to hide the tyranny of today.

[@denvan3143]

The oppression in Europe during the 1930s and 1940s and the oppression in the Asian theater during the same time. Wasn’t beyond our ability to resist. The alliance to confront that oppression was on the back foot, but it gained its footing and the allies were victorious. Those same forces of oppression arising today; it isn’t a matter of comprehension. It is once again a matter of confrontation.

[@francischambless5919]

@@denvan3143 too many Neville Chamberlains in power today like there was then.

[@communist754]

​​​@@denvan3143sorry, but that's such a naive view. The only reason why we believe that the forces of oppression were defeated is because the victors write the history. All participants of the WWII were pretty terrible, although I have a soft spot for USSR as least terrible of them.

[@spell1283]

Making the analogy between children's shows and the new Star Wars is brilliant. They share a very similar feeling for me too.

[@ScooterinAB]

Can we please stop pretending that this is some new phenomena? This has been going on since Return of the Jedi at the very least, nd the cast of A New Hope thought they were just making some dumb kids movie.

[@wilhelmaschenberger5556]

all star wars movies are for children. never understood why adults are still into it.@@ScooterinAB

[@stickiedmin6508]

​@@ScooterinAB Agreed - it was ever thus. All over the Internet we see Star Wars 'fans' endlessly complaining and stubbornly holding on to the delusion that things have changed somehow - that the Star Wars they remember from when they were kids was amazing, but that anything that came along afterwards is universally terrible. The exact same complaints, recycled over and over, decade after decade, none of them ever noticing that they sound exactly like those from the previous generation. Someone who grew up with and loved the prequel trilogy, for example, who could never understand why those grouchy old original trilogy purists hated it so much, slips neatly into that role themselves and starts moaning about everything that came along *_after_* the prequels. Star Wars hasn't changed - *_we_* changed. We got old, that's all

[@ScooterinAB]

@@wilhelmaschenberger5556 Adults can like things that are for kids. Bluey (a show for preschoolers) is apparently well regarded by adults. But Star Wars is primarily made for kids. The target audience is kids, not 50 year old men who watched the first movie in theatres. There's nothing wrong with that, but it does mean that angry 50 year old men should maybe pump the brakes and stop pretending like it's for them exclusively.

[@ivanlehmann9228]

How is it possible that that compilation at the end was enough to get tears running through my eyes? Amazing what relatable characters and stories can do.

[@vrts]

Me too. It resonated so deeply with things going on in my life that it completely caught me off guard. A beautiful supercut.

[@akshayde]

it called good writing.

[@nilsbjorklund2418]

Thank you for expressing so much what I have been ”feeling” about the Star Wars saga from the original movie until President Day.

[@discflame]

Your montage editing show more storytelling capability than anything else. The preservation of motion, the correlation of scenes, how everything meshes together. Ough, so good.

[@danisnotawombat6042]

Yeah! It must have been so much work

[@billmcdonald680]

"Show, don't tell" - the unending chorus in any good writer's head. It's story writing 101.

[@minestar2247]

and this is something the prequels do very little, unlike 7 and 8

[@aaronmueller1560]

It’s story writing 101, but it’s misleading to many writers. You can end up “telling” through visuals, and you can end up “showing” through dialogue. In fact, a single line could both “tell” and “show” at the same time. It’s really about presenting the information naturally, or though the filter of a character’s perspective. If you just take the words “show, don’t tell” without taking the lesson it is trying to convey, then you will be likely to start “telling” with visuals. As an example, if you wanted to get across that someone is a well respected scientist, it would be “telling” to show a shot of an award recognizing their scientific ability in some field, or to have our introduction shot be of them in a lab coat working with a test tube. Meanwhile, it would be “showing” to have other professionals in the field seeking out their opinion in conversation, as it shows us that people working in the field have respect for this person and perhaps hold their insight as more valuable than their own. And this was done through dialogue.

[@Bell_the_Cat]

100% agree. Andor, way more than even Rogue One, felt like someone had snuck in under Disney's radar and flipped the reset switch on the entire franchise.

[@Vesdus]

You cut my favourite line from Luthen's speech "I share my dreams with ghosts." That one hit me hard. Seems like all of his companions with similar rebel sentiments are already long dead.

[@stephenhawkingz]

Where did Luke get his cybernetic hand? The second hand store.

[@bishopp14]

😂

[@jonniiinferno9098]

🤣

[@gregv2k]

Dad…?

[@AaronShiffmon]

Well done sir 👐

[@lftoscano]

I wonder if Darth Vader placed the First Order in this store

[@jamesbatcho]

That montage at the end is brilliant. When you really see what's being built through great dialogue writing.

[@TheFlyingBrain.]

I agree. Great idea.

[@jonnyf3821]

Man, you‘re excellent! Not only is this applicable to Disney Star Wars but to the mass of newer movies. The quote “…the need to always hold your hand” describes it really well. I’ve always been frustrated to explain to people what i mean by that and you just gave words to it. Thank you thank you thank you! A hundred times

[@connnnnnnnnnnnorrrrr]

There's currently a frighteningly common sentiment that the current younger generations, z and younger, really - I mean really - lack *media literacy*. A function of this literacy is the ability for someone to be able to infer the intended audience, and most importantly infer the IMPLIED meaning behind the acting, the screenplay, the script, etc. Any piece of media that can imply a meaning by the creator (intended, or not. As some of us remember from school). A very simple example: an author or song writer, in a story or song, telling something from the point of view of a racist character. That DOES NOT imply the author agrees with what the piece of shit character is saying. Media literacy is the term you are looking for. A lack of media literacy in an age where outcry is easily posted and easily accessible makes it so much harder for a creatively-void profit-driven machine to operate without fear of backlash over something people should know better than to be mad about.

[@Native_Creation]

And the same applies to video games and other media as well.

[@minestar2247]

considering what happened to the last jedi by idiots who don't understand the movie, it makes sense that they're "playing it safe" by lowering down to the audience that makes most controversies.

[@kev95]

@@connnnnnnnnnnnorrrrr Well said.

[@tsm688]

​@@connnnnnnnnnnnorrrrr If there's one thing thing kids absolutely know, it's when they're being talked down to. They don't have the whole picture of what's going on, but they do know that.

[@PepStreebeck]

The Little Extra section at the end, is the best editing I've seen on KZbin in years. Fantastically put together.

[@Beghast-tv]

Wow, thanks!

[@minkalampinen9519]

I did not expect realism from Star Wars so Andor was a joy to watch. We need more of this level of storytelling in a Star Wars setting.

[@mattmo3446]

I just wanted to say that I really thought this video was over after the first 10 minutes because the production quality of this video is just crazy. Like the first 10 minutes could have been a standalone video and it would still be great. Insane. Got one new follower now!

[@ElSnakeObwb]

Those last 7 minutes. I got goosebumps watching that part. That was such a great honor to one of (if not the) best Starwars spinoff shows, Masterfully done

[@haroldlindley6620]

this video is a better advertisement for Andor than anything Disney ever put out

[@TheIceIvy]

I got a star wars ad before watching this video. Thought I'd share for no reason at all.

[@magicweaver4466]

That always happens

[@Mikebloke]

Really? I got one for a free adult toy 😂

[@wawawuu1514]

You need an adblocker, dude.

[@Bob-Fields]

Ad? What is that?

[@Christian_Prepper]

25:22 *'The day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the **_government's_** authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege. Remember this.'*

[@doublegreat]

Nice work sir. Your editing in the last segment is simply terrific.

[@Cinnovations]

I totally slept on Andor. Thanks for bringing it to light for me. Gonna have to binge that one. So glad they did well with it, that’s a fascinating breakdown. Great work!

[@Snarlacc]

Something weird hit me rewatching: The animated series "Star Wars The Clone Wars" feels more mature than the new series and movies. In tone and themes.

[@KMCA779]

later on, sure but the early episodes didn't give that.

[@slew9900]

@@KMCA779 yeah, thats commonly agreed on, the show starts getting mature around Season 4 i believe

[@mario-k.]

You guys seriously need to re-watch the show if you think that's true. Apart from the stand-out arcs, it could even be argued that the first couple of seasons are more mature You all think about those two jar jar episodes and the shitty movie, as well as the rocky animation at times but forget the goated episodes the early seasons contain

[@kaboose111]

You are a child if you think that.

[@inthewoods5494]

@@kaboose111 “an child” my dude the child is you.

[@paulgulezian7145]

Really nice edit at the end, stitching together some of the best dialogue to illuminate many of the central themes of Andor/Rogue One. That edit even made me view some of the lines differently in the new context, for example Cyril's line to his corporate cops about 'sometimes the biggest risk is doing nothing', but given the edit, understanding that in the context of the everyday people of the galaxy not resisting the empire/authoritarian power (as if someone like Luthen said the line). Well done. Really looking forward to Season 2. Should be amazing.

[@mayhit]

Yes! I thought the exact same thing with that part of the edit. I've thought a lot about how Cyril and Cassian are so deliberately crafted to be foils for each other in so many ways, but I'd never realized before now, that the line Cyril says at the beginning of the season, which feels so flaccid and cringe when he says it (despite him truly believing it on some level), is the very understanding that crystalizes within Cassian at the end of the season, in such a powerful way.

[@DewNotDisturb]

Glad to see people still talking about the show in such a deep level over a year after it’s release! Hyped for season 2!

[@AFriend748]

The fact that the Tie fighters sound so much like Stuka Bomber Sirens at first really sets the scene for how threatening they are for the ground troops too

[@jasonwatts8077]

As an AVID Star Wars fan, I have grown tired of the "Disney Star Wars Sucks watch me complain" genre. With that said, this is an AMAZING video. Your content is excellent and your editing is second to none. Thank you for your effort and talent. You should be proud of this work.

[@praydestiny2445]

As someone who has grown up with Star Wars and loves Rouge One and Andor, I had goosebumps throughout the montage at the end. I think you perfectly put together everything. I agree with everything you said and I wish more people did too. It's so sad seeing such a great franchise go down the way Star Wars has. But Rouge One and Andor have given me hope (no pun intended). Thank you for a great watch!

[@fabi9762]

People who enyoed the montage at the end should definetly watch the Templin Institutes version of what Star Wars could have looked like with a more mature approach to it. Their "The New Republic Reimagined" video especially is an all time favorite which really showcases what could've been...in a galaxy far far away.

[@peterfazio9306]

I love the Templin Institute. Glad other have found the channel, too 😊.

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

This is precisely why I love KOTOR as a video game. KOTOR doesn’t care about your morals or your inclinations. You can be a ruthless bounty hunter, an evil Sith Lord, or the savior of the galaxy. What’s so unique about it is that you are playing both as an established character and as a blank slate. Yes, Darth Revan is male and yes the light side path is “canon” (canon within the continuity of Legends) but you don’t have to play a railroaded character. You can be whatever you want to be. Star Wars characters shouldn’t be strictly light sided and full of dogmatic morals and lessons to teach the audience. A good cast of characters has people from all walks of life, all sorts of perspectives and philosophical beliefs. Heroes and antiheroes, pure evil and broken, and people who simply blur the lines completely. Some people will still root for the bad guy or the character who is in theory a no good crook but actually ends up doing some good deeds.

[@Mikilangelo]

This video is the prime example of that moment when you wish you could press "like", "like", "like", "like", "like"... Bravo for putting my feelings and incoherent thoughts not only into words but into a beautifully done video! Thank you!

[@nevar108]

That ending edit was masterful. +1 sub... Your organization and delivery of your insights is a breath of fresh air. I look forward to your future presentations and what you your backlog offers.

[@inferno_bro3366]

The quality of this video immaculate, Especially from a smaller youtuber. It's well structured and has the editing of a Netflix documentary. Was very enjoyable to watch

[@redguitar6062]

My almost adult kids are becoming increasingly more interested in movies from the 80s and before as they have noticed that there is much more emphasis on building a story and developing characters for the first 60 - 70% of the the film before any real action takes off in the last 20 mins or so. Modern films tend to go at it like a bull in a china chop from the get go and spoon feed them like babies.

[@cinerina]

This was a terrific piece of analysis and beautifully edited to strengthen your point. I love Andor despite it being part of the Star Wars universe and not because of it, but I could never quite articulate it as well as you have done here. Thank you!

[@mattuskamusic]

2:35 “constant stimulation and explanation to keep you hooked.” That explains to me why I don’t like popular movies anymore. It makes me a crazy that they force you to understand a story in the way they want it understood. I prefer for things to be more abstract where I can have my own experience instead of being forced to feel a certain way.

[@tsm688]

The way the characters become walking exposition pieces devoid of real motivation. Ugh. It certainly moves the story faster, but at the cost of all believability.

[@JaredSvB]

I think you've hit the nail on the head with this analysis. Expressed eloquently what I experienced with the new Disney Star Wars films/series!

[@Kyouske_42]

My brother in christ, I came to learn, not to feel. Holy hot deamn, this hits hits like a coal wagon!