Same novel, two very different adaptations...

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Little White Lies

Little White Lies

Күн бұрын

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@glockenrein
@glockenrein Жыл бұрын
Jude Law was so devastatingly beautiful that it just made so much sense to me that Ripley both wanted him desperately and wanted to be him equally desperately.
@DRthistle
@DRthistle Жыл бұрын
That's a great point. Men don't often idolize women; they idolize other men and this can lead to a subliminal love and sexual tension.
@pamelamccall5653
@pamelamccall5653 9 ай бұрын
Agreed! That film was the first time I ever saw Jude Law. He looked ethereal, like light was coming from within. I also had no clue what the plot line was! Such s great surprise!
@Scooter_1977
@Scooter_1977 7 ай бұрын
Matt looks so much better than jude bro
@glockenrein
@glockenrein 7 ай бұрын
@@Scooter_1977 it’s not a contest.
@meisrerboot
@meisrerboot 5 ай бұрын
@@Scooter_1977 Delon looks way better than both of them
@Oktaviii
@Oktaviii 4 жыл бұрын
But the fact is this movie definitely casted two most beautiful men of the century: Alain Delon and Jude Law. If I saw them both together in the same movie I would have a heart attack ❤️😍
@philbecker4676
@philbecker4676 4 жыл бұрын
Haha I think by the time Jude Law was in movies Alain Delon was probably on life support 🤣
@Oktaviii
@Oktaviii 4 жыл бұрын
@@philbecker4676 when this movie came out Alain was like 65, he could’ve played the role of dad or something 😆
@juliajulie8500
@juliajulie8500 4 жыл бұрын
@@Oktaviii in some alternate universe both are the same age 😍
@nenabunena
@nenabunena 4 жыл бұрын
Jude Laws beauty faded quickly though
@philbecker4676
@philbecker4676 4 жыл бұрын
@@nenabunena lol, what?
@jacobrivers5728
@jacobrivers5728 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed both films but the authentic 1960s ambience which the original version offered was sublime and can never be surpassed. The photography was wonderful and the film and storyline seemed so much better with European actors.
@kennymac1346
@kennymac1346 2 жыл бұрын
Anglophiles like you are such snobby losers.
@dariamorgendorffer7813
@dariamorgendorffer7813 3 жыл бұрын
I like both but the Minghella version was profoundly sad. Both are so different. Alain Delon brings is magnetic and calculating beauty to the role. But, the second version shows a man trapped in his body and mind. You want him to succeed even if the actions he commits are atrocious. Matt Damon's interpretation of Ripley is spot-on as a young man with repressed desire. As mentionned, I like both. But, Minghella's version affected me more.
@pdruiz2005
@pdruiz2005 Жыл бұрын
There's more tragedy when you can see glimmers of humanity peeking through Tom Ripley. Because you can tell he's stifling that humanity and putting his greed and bloodlust above it. I think Matt Damon in that regard did a terrific job. Haven't seen the Alain Delon film, but it's striking that in that film he's a gorgeous man with no conflicted soul. He's just pure greed and good looks. That's not nearly as interesting.
@iuliaionelapetcu1411
@iuliaionelapetcu1411 Ай бұрын
​@@pdruiz2005 You shouldn't assume in general, but especially in this case. Matt Demon is spectacular in this role, but Delon's subtle and insinuating performance really brings glory to the character. The novel's author, Patricia Highsmith, even praised his performance. Despite him not articulating or being obvious about feelings of envy, resentment, anger or his troubled soul, he is able to make them known through acting alone. But yes, he is absolutely gorgeous, you shouls really watch Plein Soleil.
@charmelen2
@charmelen2 5 күн бұрын
Same here.
@amalia7513
@amalia7513 4 жыл бұрын
I'm on a Ripley binge right now... within three weeks I've watched Purple Noon and the 1999 film, and read the novel. All with their own wonderful merits, all glorious in their own ways. This came at a perfect time
@edrian2785
@edrian2785 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you watch the movie, can you help with the link, please
@amalia7513
@amalia7513 4 жыл бұрын
@@edrian2785 Purple Noon is streaming on Kanopy if you have a library card, The Talented Mr. Ripley (1999) is on Netflix right now
@hanniffydinn6019
@hanniffydinn6019 4 жыл бұрын
Well Tom Scott is cast as the new Ripley tv series....doing all books...but I fear it won’t get made now or turned woke. The SJWs won’t allow such a strong white male character in charge. 🤯
@amalia7513
@amalia7513 4 жыл бұрын
​@@hanniffydinn6019 Who the hell is still ranting about ThE sJwS in 2020? Stop ingesting propaganda
@hanniffydinn6019
@hanniffydinn6019 4 жыл бұрын
Amaliach are a blind spastic? They’ve ruined all the major popular culture media, you really think Ripley is gonna be immune? Everyone is obviously discussing how SJWs have ruined media. All the fast growing KZbin channels like nerdrotic, overlord dvd et al discuss nothing else. Have even seen the new sjw marvel and DC comics? I think you are a dumb blind spastic. James Bond is next to be ruined.
@vwinters6098
@vwinters6098 3 жыл бұрын
I love the original with the gorgeous Alain Delon!
@roychefets6961
@roychefets6961 3 жыл бұрын
Remake sucks!
@tobyknight8811
@tobyknight8811 3 жыл бұрын
@@roychefets6961 just doesn’t though does it. The remake is great what’s not to enjoy about it.
@averythecoolcat
@averythecoolcat 3 жыл бұрын
The original was closer to Ripley's character in the book,
@mrmucro2704
@mrmucro2704 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the end of that movie is disappointing.
@francescaderimini4422
@francescaderimini4422 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the original as well! Also, Delon’ character left it a bit more opened to interpretation. We don’t know his back ground, if he had killed before etc.
@nomiddlenamenmn427
@nomiddlenamenmn427 3 жыл бұрын
Alain couldn’t get lost in a crowd. Matt could although he is very cute. I heard years ago an alleged story about someone watching from a window Alain and Sophia Loren (not together) walk down a crowded street and literally part it. Babies turned towards them and many had their breath taken as they quietly passed by as gorgeous freaks among them.
@iuliaionelapetcu1411
@iuliaionelapetcu1411 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a great anecdote. Goes to show our preference and reverence for beauty is ingrained into us since the beggining, in our DNA.
@courregeaaron947
@courregeaaron947 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, it has also something to do with charisma and aura
@IceBreakerMint
@IceBreakerMint 2 жыл бұрын
They should make that crowd parting scene when they do their Biopics. Thanks.
@ivyimogene
@ivyimogene 2 жыл бұрын
I would have looked only at Alain Delon
@Buttercup697
@Buttercup697 Жыл бұрын
@@courregeaaron947 babies are attracted to symmetrical faces... so are we adults.
@septillion2501
@septillion2501 4 жыл бұрын
If Matt Damon's Ripley looked like Alain Delon, Jude Law would've let him get in that bathtub...just sayin. 😏
@jzz6342
@jzz6342 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone will let Alain Delon in his bathtub , he is not human, is like a god LOL
@BTinsley1992
@BTinsley1992 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed .. Shitttt I’d take a shot of that bath water lol jk
@scubahellodon1
@scubahellodon1 2 жыл бұрын
Lol… You are probably right.
@scubahellodon1
@scubahellodon1 2 жыл бұрын
Getting my morning laughs the comments
@willybrisbois5926
@willybrisbois5926 2 жыл бұрын
Gay but funny
@Gregorskorino
@Gregorskorino 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the Matt Damon version is almost like a prequel to the real Tom Ripley where he is learning how to be a good sociopath on the fly, reacting to situations as they happen. Not the cool, collected, calculating murderer he eventually becomes.
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse 3 жыл бұрын
I watched both last week with a friend. We agreed they are both good, but simply different. As you say Delon's Ripley is cool and calculating, whereas Damon's is almost entirely driven by reactions to circumstances. That later film also has a more charismatic Dickie. Plein Soleil benefits from being filmed in pretty much the same era as the book, so it doesn't have to try to be like the '50s and that gives it an authenticity. Its ending is famously disappointing though.
@Missedtrain-gu1fh
@Missedtrain-gu1fh 2 жыл бұрын
Jude Law more charismatic than Ronet? Seriously?
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse 2 жыл бұрын
@@Missedtrain-gu1fh In their respective versions of this film, yes. Nothing against Ronet.
@Missedtrain-gu1fh
@Missedtrain-gu1fh 2 жыл бұрын
@@baronmeduse Well, Law's Dickie is just a spoilt, coquettish and dumb rich playboy whose perceptivity does not reach beyond his scotch glass. This is not Law's fault: his character is written this way. However, this does not excuse Law's mannerisms, bizarre twitchiness and corny attempts at playing the "bon vivant" guy. In short, a boring character played badly. Law can be a reasonably good actor but not in this. Ronet's Dickie is another kind of fish entirely and as a character, he is much more fleshed out (despite having less screen time). Ronet's Dickie is an entitled, egotist prick precociously rotten by his money. But there is also an eerie lucidity and self-destructiveness to him, which gives him an intuition of Ripley's dark potential. Simultaneously fascinated and repulsed, he consciously taunts him to the breaking point just to know how far Ripley is willing to go. In short, he dares Ripley to kill him. Ronet's Dickie is better written. But the point is that Ronet is able to give fully justice to it with its ability to grant ambiguity to seemingly superficial actions and situations. Something Law is unable to do.
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse 2 жыл бұрын
@@Missedtrain-gu1fh You basically described the Law character as much as Ronet's interpretation. I'm not trying to take your view away from you, I merely think Law's Dickie is more in tune with the book. Ronet doesn't portray a rich American playboy. I saw Ronet when re-watching La femme infidèle a couple of weeks ago, great actor. Good in Plein Soleil, but I'm talking about a preference.
@Missedtrain-gu1fh
@Missedtrain-gu1fh 2 жыл бұрын
@@baronmeduse Well, I do not want to take away your preference either. It's just that I really do not see any concrete instance where Law's Dickie is anything else than a annoyingly bland playboy. Granted, he has some possibility to show some occasional mild contempt for Ripley but in comparison to the psychological sado-masochism between Ronet-Delon, it is rather underwhelming IMHO. That said, the Clément version tends to drag in the second half as it becomes just another crime/police story. There is a clear disjoint between the Ronet part and the post murder part. This is a problem Minghella's version does not have. Ronet was also great in Feu Follet, although this film may not be for everyone.
@ivankamarelj3542
@ivankamarelj3542 Жыл бұрын
Look at that cast in American version... Matt Damon Jude Law Cate Blanchett Phillip Seymour Hoffman Gwyneth Paltrow They were so young in this and at their prime looking wise. Add to this two older prefessuonals like James Rebhorn and Phillip Baker Hall. And a bunch of Italian actors in smaller roles. What a cast!
@Emma-dh7by
@Emma-dh7by 2 жыл бұрын
The quote from Minghella at 8:21 encapsulates my problem with the adaptation. Tom's detachment from reality is part of what makes him such a fascinating character. The way that he has almost a full array of human emotions except for remorse makes him both sympathetic and terrifying. It's only for a brief moment near the end of the book when talking to Peter where he has a moment of lucidity and grief for his crimes. I dont think Tom can ever properly be adapted to the screen because his internal narrative is what truly makes him a unique character.
@afonsolucas2219
@afonsolucas2219 5 ай бұрын
I always thought his most compelling interpretation had been by Dennis Hopper. He is still my favorite Ripley because he paints Tom in an unpredictable light. Cold, calculating sure. Impulse, brash and explosive the next moment. But then, there are a few scenes that expose a humanity that laid dormant underneath... the polaroid scene... Hopper understood Ripley perfectly with that scene. Of course this was a middle-aged Ripley and what I like most about him is that he feels somewhat disconnected from who he truly is and the world. I don't know if it was a phase the character was going through or a further descent into madness but as is, it's one of the most compelling characters I have ever seen on screen.
@missasyan
@missasyan 3 ай бұрын
@@afonsolucas2219i get you. Its the selfishness. Ripleys a sociopath, right? After all psychopaths cant really feel many emotions and cannot empathise. But he is ultimately self serving
@Raaaissa
@Raaaissa 4 ай бұрын
I like the way Alain Delon can perform great “eye acting” it’s so intense! Yet perfectly portrays what’s behind the character’s ambition, making both seductive yet deceitful… amazing! Just amazing!
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 2 ай бұрын
Spot on! I don't remember any actor who acts with his eyes almost solely as much as Delon does. Watch Le Samourai, a very famous film, historical, in which he is positively Zen. He says almost nothing and yet his acting is devastating.
@Raaaissa
@Raaaissa 2 ай бұрын
@ looks interesting! I’ll check out later!
@francescaderimini2931
@francescaderimini2931 13 күн бұрын
@@RaaaissaPlease watch Purple Noon! A British film critic said it best. Jude Law should have played Ripley because he is so beautiful and charming. Why would someone put up with someone as insipid as Matt Damon.
@mardavijpoursaleh9810
@mardavijpoursaleh9810 2 жыл бұрын
Alain Delon was perfect. He was stunning!! So cool, so handsome!!
@mariarosacorrales1899
@mariarosacorrales1899 3 жыл бұрын
Alain was 25 y.o. when he made this movie! OMG! so handosme.
@SalveRegina8
@SalveRegina8 Жыл бұрын
This movie is the quiet flex of cinematic genius.
@benben5847
@benben5847 Жыл бұрын
I have watched TTMr.R at least 50 times over the last 23 years and I did not know until I just watched this video that there was an “original”. I can’t wait to watch the French one. So happy !
@lolabelle4959
@lolabelle4959 Ай бұрын
You'll fall in love with Delon❤
@juliajulie8500
@juliajulie8500 4 жыл бұрын
Alain Delon for sure
@averythecoolcat
@averythecoolcat 3 жыл бұрын
He was closer to the book's Ripley. Though I loved both movies....
@HelloKittysFriend418
@HelloKittysFriend418 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading the book and I'm so glad i found this video! I really like how you highlighted the strengths and weaknesses of both movies, as I could see it being a lot easier to just pick a favourite and end it there. I want to watch both, hopefully I can find the french adaptation somewhere online! Thanks for the great work, and the narrator's voice was excellent as well
@broccoli4781
@broccoli4781 3 жыл бұрын
did you ever pick a favourite?
@amalHope3
@amalHope3 2 жыл бұрын
I watched both versions of the novel and I can say safely that Alain Delon's movie is superior to Matt Damon's movie. Alain Delon also did a better performance and was more charismatic than Matta Damon
@papakias3922
@papakias3922 8 ай бұрын
Lol, no way you are being serious. Dellon s movie was a cringefest
@nenabunena
@nenabunena 5 ай бұрын
I like both but prefer delon's generally too, it reminds me of tgf too somewhat. The music is definitely superior
@ivydark9741
@ivydark9741 4 ай бұрын
Where can I see the original?
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 2 ай бұрын
@@papakias3922 You're completely off. Don't know why. Plein Soleil is considered a very great movie.
@architapal8021
@architapal8021 Ай бұрын
Matt delon was amazing judt perfect for this role much Better than alain .
@Buttercup697
@Buttercup697 Жыл бұрын
Loved the Mingella version, beautifully filmed, kudos to the DOP!... just learned there was an original with Alain Delon! you could film him in a trash bag and he'd still steal the screen. Swoon!
@pdruiz2005
@pdruiz2005 Жыл бұрын
At 7:08. I thought this part, where Marge correctly suspects Tom as the murderer, but then is totally disbelieved by the older, powerful men around her and branded as "hysterical" was really well-thought out. It brings to the fore the misogyny of the 1950s: "Oh, you know those women with their crazy emotions and overactive imaginations!" The fact that Tom used that misogyny for his escape was BRILLIANT. I'm disappointed to hear that this was not in the original Highsmith novel. I'd figure Highsmith would've seen this misogyny and commented upon it in such a scathing, sardonic way.
@gerrygaak5939
@gerrygaak5939 9 ай бұрын
Purple Noon is the better film. Delon is fantastic as Tom Ripley, his acting is so subtle yet powerful. Matt Damon's Ripley is just a stereotypical closeted gay man who lashes out because he's rejected, while Delon's portrayal is that of a true sociopath, able to change his masks with ease.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 4 ай бұрын
Damon's Ripley is far more than a stereotype as there is a big class element to his character ['it's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody'] and how-as well as the closeted element-he wants to be Dickie, hence him pretending to be him to Meredith and inheriting Dickie's money at the end.
@RipperBravo
@RipperBravo 4 жыл бұрын
Both good films. Highsmith was dismayed by the ending of Purple Noon however, though she did find it “beautiful to the eye.”
@JR-hi9bu
@JR-hi9bu 4 жыл бұрын
It has a certain softness that makes it very attractive
@peg202xo7
@peg202xo7 3 жыл бұрын
Tom got away scot free. I just disregard the ending.
@DaddyyAlainn35
@DaddyyAlainn35 2 жыл бұрын
@@peg202xo7 It's true, the ending had to be different, although when you watch the movie and you get to the end, you get the idea that they catch him even though that's not shown in the movie, that is, it was impossible for him to get away with it, Basically because Phillipe's body had been found, the police already suspected Tom, that is, everything was against him, although Tom was very intelligent and had a great ability to deceive others, there comes a time when he simply ends up drowning in his lies. That's my opinion, I love this movie that's why I share my point of view, I recommend it, it's excellent, the actors, the music, the filter, the time it was made, everything!
@peg202xo7
@peg202xo7 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaddyyAlainn35 Check out the film Ripley's Game. John Malkovich makes a much better Ripley than Damon. More true to the books.
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 9 ай бұрын
In those days, the villain had to die in the end, or end up in jail. It was the law....
@gigiatlas2364
@gigiatlas2364 5 ай бұрын
RIP Alain Delon
@dr2549
@dr2549 Жыл бұрын
I remember how shocked I was on hearing of Mingella's sudden death at 54, since I thought him a genius and was eagerly waiting for his next creation. His Ripley is a true masterpiece - so multi-layered, poetic, wise and witty, elevating Highsmith's nasty evilness many degrees higher then any of her other film adaptors'. She surley would have hated this, being the monster she was - and no wonder she liked Delon best - him being the personification of evil.
@El-up1ri
@El-up1ri 5 ай бұрын
if Alain was Ripley playing with Jude Law they would have fallen for each other and forget the girl.
@quickstep145
@quickstep145 Жыл бұрын
As remakes go, this was pretty good. A great cast too.
@icydelon
@icydelon Жыл бұрын
delon is the best
@42kellys
@42kellys 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is not a good idea to compare the two films for reasons of the obvious. The two Ripleys are extremely different. Both are amazing and dark films but they are terribly different. I have never read the book so I have no idea which one is closer to the original but both adaptations are excellent. They are troubling too.
@shaghayeghalavi2739
@shaghayeghalavi2739 4 жыл бұрын
As a fan of both films, really loved the video. Please make more of these👍🏻👍🏻
@SilverandGoldL
@SilverandGoldL 3 жыл бұрын
This was interesting. I saw the Talented Mr Ripley as a kid and I wasn't aware that it was a remake
@ivankamarelj3542
@ivankamarelj3542 Жыл бұрын
It cant be considered remake if its based on a book. Different adaptation is more accurate to say.
@sigmann66
@sigmann66 Жыл бұрын
Two very different movies and actors in my opinion. I enjoyed both of them immensely. Both haunted me for years. But I imagine the ladies probably preferred Delon.
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 2 ай бұрын
Of course. Jude is bland as heck compared to Delon.
@ΓιώργοςΔιαμαντόπουλος-ε2ν
@ΓιώργοςΔιαμαντόπουλος-ε2ν 2 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me?? Alain for Everrrrrrrrrrrrrr........!!!!!
@poetcomic1
@poetcomic1 2 жыл бұрын
I was always baffled why Hitchcock, a fan of Highsmith, never did this book. The second version has some rich scenes of high suspense that remind me of Hitchcock.
@familycorvette
@familycorvette Жыл бұрын
Yeah, a friend of mine always said Hitchcock adapted the wrong Highsmith novel. And if he had cast John Dall as Dickie Greenleaf and Farley Granger as Ripley, it would have been a film for the ages.
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 9 ай бұрын
Because he knew he couldn't portray them as queer as they had to be. If "Strangers on a train" was covertly queer, there just isn't a way to do Ripley any other way than openly queer, and Hitch knew he couldn't make the subject justice the way it deserved to be.
@familycorvette
@familycorvette 9 ай бұрын
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 Have you read the book? The queerness, as you call it, is latent and repressed and that is what makes the murder of Dickie Greenleaf one of the most fascinating in all crime fiction. Like I imagine murders in real life, Ripley's act is overdetermined, as Freud would say. Ripley's motives for violence are opaque to himself. They're a stew of class envy, injured vanity, latent homosexuality. The latency is key, which is surely something Hitchcock could have portrayed. By making Ripley overtly homosexual, Anthony Minghella gets the book completely wrong.
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 9 ай бұрын
@@familycorvette No I haven't read the book, so you have a point. And I can only speculate into Hitch'es motives, but I would imagine he thought he couldn't do it justice or he would've been all over it.
@DavidBaker-cx1ni
@DavidBaker-cx1ni 9 ай бұрын
@@familycorvette Well, "Strangers on a Train," Highsmith's first novel, proved to be a film noir for the ages although my favorite is "Kiss Me Deadly," the only film to date that ends in world apocalypse and on a more positive note, led to the French New Wave. Clement/Delon did Ripley justice.
@bronzeblues7795
@bronzeblues7795 4 жыл бұрын
As likeable as Damon is... he simply can not hold a candle to Delon whow as the most magnetic man I have ever seen as Ripley. I also like motivations and themes of the original far more whereas in '99 version it came off as if no1 basis for Ripley's choices was the fact Dickie just didn' t love him back the way he wanted(or at all let's face it) and killed him in a moment of rage. No, I prefer the cunning Ripley with a plan much better. The only flaw I can say Plein Soleil has is the fact they didn't follow the very ending of the novel where in fact Ripley completely gets away with it.
@jzz6342
@jzz6342 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the end of the version with Alain Delon, because it was unexpected
@jennic9076
@jennic9076 2 жыл бұрын
Why do movies never stick to book?
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 4 ай бұрын
He doesn't kill him 'in a moment of rage'-he hits him after being rejected [which the director said was to get him to shut up as he could just run away from him]. Dickie then try's to kill him in retaliation. Once Ripley has tried to get him to stop and failed, Ripley kills him in self defence.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 4 ай бұрын
@@jennic9076 Because a lot of the time what works in a novel doesn't work on film [like internal monologs] or elements feel dated or could be done better [e.g. Rambo is changed from arguably being the books villain to the underdog which worked well in 'First Blood'].
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 2 ай бұрын
@@jzz6342 Me too!
@wk1810
@wk1810 Жыл бұрын
I found the original lacked the suspense and darkness of the remake. However, casting Jude Law as the good-looking rich kid was a very American mindset, as where in the original Delon was better looking than the rich guy.
@TB-to8uy
@TB-to8uy 2 жыл бұрын
Purple Noon of course Better protagonist and cinematography.
@AlexP-sh5vr
@AlexP-sh5vr Жыл бұрын
and Nino Rota's music
@tdrmn
@tdrmn 4 жыл бұрын
For me, Delon is miscast in this. I mean, why would anyone looking like that want to be someone else? Damon's Ripley is awkward, skinny, weird and not conventionally handsome so he's more believable to me. Damon's Ripley is also more layered and can even be sympathetic at times. Also, Jude Law was the perfect Dickie.
@philbecker4676
@philbecker4676 4 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert but I believe in the original Ripley was more attracted the the lifestyle that being Dickie/Phillipe offered while in the "remake" Ripley was more attracted to Dickie himself, so it made more sense for Dickie to be very, very attractive. So they're just coming from two different angles. Plus Ripley is played much more as a seductive antihero in the original, and who is more seductive than Alain Delon?
@juliajulie8500
@juliajulie8500 4 жыл бұрын
Miscast? I think he is perfect for the role. Alain's Tom looks like an angel and yet he is the devil himself.. malicious, calculated, eaten up by insecurities and jealosy. You think beautiful people don't have any insecurities, flaws and are always good people? If so, you are the perfect fool, along with Marge and everybody else. You never see it coming. I think that is the beauty of this version. Alain's Tom wants Phillipe's lifestyle, Matt's Tom wants Dickie, these are two very different things. Sorry but I'm going with Alain on this one. I could see right through Matt's Tom from the very first scene.
@juliajulie8500
@juliajulie8500 4 жыл бұрын
@@philbecker4676 Agreed
@Izaan2810
@Izaan2810 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree.
@brendacastillo8146
@brendacastillo8146 3 жыл бұрын
Alain's Ripley wanted the money, the live style, the girl. While projecting a seductive magnetism, almost vulnerable to the point I felt sorry for him, he was bullied and looks malnurish, he even suffered hunger, he bites. A Bread desesperately after killing Philippe, I wanted him to get away with it, Phillipe was an ashole, his beauty was something he uses to get what he wants, Marge was starting to fall, he was perfect, the US version is a very different adaptation.
@mardavijpoursaleh9810
@mardavijpoursaleh9810 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes a film is made with an everlastingn impression. Good, strong senario and a magnetic actor/star is the perfect match for the role. The actor becomes the protagonist and the protagonist becomes the actor. Then no actor can play that role anymore. There is no remake that can even come close!! Movies such as Talented Mr.Ripley, Manchurian Candidate, and The day of the jackal are such a movie.
@palangnar3588
@palangnar3588 2 жыл бұрын
Of course the original one ,it is more classic looking,Alain was amazing in it.
@andreaottelli9734
@andreaottelli9734 4 жыл бұрын
Well compare Alain Delon to Matt Damon i would say Alain. No doubt
@ichigo449
@ichigo449 4 жыл бұрын
Well Delon is more handsome and a way better actor. Not much of a choice.
@carnationcorsages
@carnationcorsages 4 жыл бұрын
alain looks better. matt damon played ripley w more layers so I choose matt here
@andreaottelli9734
@andreaottelli9734 4 жыл бұрын
@@carnationcorsages And talking about Mr Ripley what you think about Jude Law 's character
@carnationcorsages
@carnationcorsages 4 жыл бұрын
@@andreaottelli9734 Jude Law's character was brilliant. I could c why he was envied by tom.The other phillipe in plein soleil was detestable and not captivating to watch
@andreaottelli9734
@andreaottelli9734 4 жыл бұрын
@@carnationcorsages I agree. Philippe in Plein Soleil was One of the characters i didn't like. But i can Say that both movies was pretty good..
@fannyfroeschl
@fannyfroeschl 8 ай бұрын
for me without any doubt Plein Soleil is much better than the remake
@rhianhegarty3383
@rhianhegarty3383 9 ай бұрын
Andrew Scott as Ripley and the cinematography of the new Netflix show is amazing. Obviously all I know it's the 90s version but yes ripleys obsession was say more obsession than passion. And I felt the noir mood so more inn Scott's portayal. Hence showing me a new comparison to a story I knew little of regarding it's on screen adaptations.. Now need to see more.
@ControlledBalance
@ControlledBalance Жыл бұрын
Purple Noon was better overall imho and Alain Delon is more convincing.
@ElizabethJMusgraveGottaGo
@ElizabethJMusgraveGottaGo Жыл бұрын
Clearly behind in things as I was unaware Damon's was a remake and zero idea of the book, author, or this video. Selfishly pleased to find out about all. Thank you!
@judy9123
@judy9123 Жыл бұрын
Watch Purple Moon. One of the best movies ever.
@lolabelle4959
@lolabelle4959 Ай бұрын
Alain Delon stole the show!! Stunning❤
@francescaderimini2931
@francescaderimini2931 13 күн бұрын
Touché also the Cinematography ❤
@alexare7948
@alexare7948 4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how Plein Soleil had Alain Delon, who is wildly better looking than the actor who played Phillipe, as Tom, and then the remake saw Matt Damon as Tom, who is objectively less handsome than Jude. I feel like the remake featured Jude's character much more so wondering if that were the case in the original Alain would have gone for that role. Tbf, Tom is a much more "fun" role to play.
@Missedtrain-gu1fh
@Missedtrain-gu1fh 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone has his/her taste and preferences but Delon is certainly not ''wildly'' better looking than Ronet. And Ronet had something that neither Delon, nor Jude Law (or Matt Damon for that matter) had: an unique and very personal screen presence. Ahe he could act circles around these people too (e.g this film, le Feu Follet etc)
@alexare7948
@alexare7948 4 жыл бұрын
@@Missedtrain-gu1fh lol it seems like you don't get your own point- yeah, everyone has their own tastes. Therefore your opinion of Ronet is just as subjective. Anyway, cheers.
@Missedtrain-gu1fh
@Missedtrain-gu1fh 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexare7948 LOL", you seem to not understand what some words mean. It is one thing to say that Delon is better looking than Ronet (it's a question of subjective taste after all). It is a completly another thing altogether to say that Delon is "WILDLY" better looking than Ronet. Because it is ridiculous in objective terms. It's not like you were comparing Delon with someone Like Dustin Hoffmann (where the "WILDLY" comment would at least make some sense). "Anyway, cheers" from my side as well, even if you liked pour own comment (which is laughable). PS: And yes, Ronet is a better actor than Delon, Damon and Law. Sorry.
@alexare7948
@alexare7948 4 жыл бұрын
@@Missedtrain-gu1fh LOL back at you. You still don't get that ANY comment on physicality and talent is still SUBJECTIVE. It's my pregorative if I think delon is wildly better looking than anyone. It's also my prerogative if I think he is wildly more talented (which I didn't say in my original post, btw). Calm your tits. Peace.
@Missedtrain-gu1fh
@Missedtrain-gu1fh 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexare7948 My ''tits"are fine, thank you for the concern. :) You can LOL at me as much as you like, it won't change the fact you don't understand what some words mean. The "wildly" comment does not represent any kind of objective reality. Sorry. You seem to be unaware that a subjective opinion is a two way street. It is my "perogative" to disagree with you on Delon just as it is your perogative to claim that Delon is more beautiful than anyone else. But if you don't expect your opinions to be challenged, just stay out of the kitchen. The funny thing is that both movies are not about physical beauty anyway, so your fixation on this point is quitte strange. PS: You liked your own comment. Again. Insecure much?
@radupopescu2370
@radupopescu2370 7 ай бұрын
Plein Soleil is a masterpiece and Delon is one of the best actors ever. Any comparison is a waste of time.
@joshrandall7346
@joshrandall7346 4 жыл бұрын
Alain Delon! And "Purple Noon" more quality movie...
@bladsshot9361
@bladsshot9361 2 жыл бұрын
Delon
@Wardum
@Wardum 3 жыл бұрын
I read the five Ripley's novels. Neither Delon nor Damon fits in model. And there's one thing that fails in both: they don't have Ripley's twisted humour.
@kenhunt278
@kenhunt278 3 жыл бұрын
Best one (so far) is Malkovich.
@tomhighsmith
@tomhighsmith Жыл бұрын
I am now reading the author , Patricia Highsmith, whose books I most enjoyed reading, The Talented Mr Ripley, (fifth time I think) and I still think the building of tension and story telling are great. you cannot film Tom's world of thoughts and they are so essential to the story.
@Wardum
@Wardum Жыл бұрын
@@tomhighsmith Good appointment.
@darkplasmo7921
@darkplasmo7921 5 ай бұрын
Also, I never saw Ripley as a Homosexual/bisexual but nearly asexual. He is attracted to the life and the essence of other and wants to be them. He is never infatuated or in Love. Status, Power, and the game of deception are all that maters.
@Wardum
@Wardum 5 ай бұрын
@@darkplasmo7921 Hello. You're right. Ripley is more intellectual than visceral. He only act to achieve a more confortable situation.
@vicanthony5470
@vicanthony5470 6 ай бұрын
Purple Noon is far and away better
@justschr
@justschr 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently there is a series planned for Showtime. Any one think it’s possible to blend to two versions of Ripley? Kind of like a Jekyll and Hyde type of character?
@JR-hi9bu
@JR-hi9bu 4 жыл бұрын
I guess that's what the book's meant to be. I mean, Ripley is very handy when it comes to lying and conning, his vulnerability just overshadows it
@justschr
@justschr 4 жыл бұрын
@@JR-hi9bu I think you've got that backwards... One of the criticisms of Matt Damon's Tom is that he's too vulnerable compared to the cold and calculated original. My understanding is the original Tom has no remorse whatsoever for what he's done.
@JR-hi9bu
@JR-hi9bu 4 жыл бұрын
@@justschr I understand that, I was saying that, although he appears to be a rather shambolic, vulnerable character, he is good at, of course, impersonations and forgeries, as well as spinning complex lies on the go, similar to Delons character. This shines through with Delon more, though, because of his lizard like demeanor
@romee4722
@romee4722 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a prequel series!
@mariarosacorrales1899
@mariarosacorrales1899 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, Matt, but Alain is Alain!!!
@heekyungkim8147
@heekyungkim8147 6 ай бұрын
Don’t even compare… Plein Soleil is The one… with Alain Delon. The best.
@calebproductions5970
@calebproductions5970 4 жыл бұрын
First movie.hands down
@Kasia-h3i
@Kasia-h3i 2 жыл бұрын
Никто никогда не сможет затмить Ален Делона в роли Рипли. Мэтт Даймон очень хорош, но это не его роль. А вот Джуд Лоу очень органичен в этой роли. Совсем не уступает прекрасному Морису Роне. И Мари Лафоре на мой взгляд лучше вписалась в роль. Более теплая, более женственная. Но оба этих фильма хороши каждый по-своему. Хотя мне французская версия ближе. Эти прекрасные общие планы Италии, ее улиц, кафе, рынка. Сейчас нет той атмосферы. Все холоднее.
@luigidesantis1604
@luigidesantis1604 3 жыл бұрын
good Damon but amazing Delon.
@rudy1999
@rudy1999 Ай бұрын
Damon looks like an ogre next to Delon on screen xD
@DM-hf9nh
@DM-hf9nh 3 ай бұрын
I never understood Minghella's version. Why did Tom kill his new love interest in the end when he could have just killed Meredith Logue. After all, she was the only one who recognized him.
@vi-sl2lv
@vi-sl2lv 2 ай бұрын
Killing someone who knew hime as Ripley vs who knew him as greenleaf
@rickjamesdos2239
@rickjamesdos2239 3 жыл бұрын
God I loved this movie and loved Seymour Hoffman in it
@yordalyn
@yordalyn 4 ай бұрын
For me it’s Purple Noon all the way. It also had the blessings Patricia Highsmith. She approved and expressed satisfaction with the film and Alain Delon’s acting.
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 2 ай бұрын
Purple Noon. High Noon is a Western.
@yordalyn
@yordalyn 2 ай бұрын
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 Yep. Thank you, I'll edit.
@moderncloth
@moderncloth 2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this.
@goldencalf7822
@goldencalf7822 3 жыл бұрын
Patricia Highsmith’s, _Talented Mr. Ripley_ contains all of the qualities of a fascinating character study. It is a novel that takes care not to admonish Tom for his pathological yearning, aiming instead to absorb the reader into its world, making them volitionally complicit in Ripley’s murderous desires and envies. While Minghella’s adaptation remained true to certain elements of the novel, such as Tom’s subtle yet apparent homosexuality, Clément presented Tom as heterosexual. In the novel, Tom sees Marge has an encumbrance, yet in _Purple Noon_, she becomes an object of desire. Clément’s adaptation of Highsmith’s novel is, through and through, American in every sense of the word. What we see is that Purple Noon is undoubtedly a beautiful film, encapsulating the culmination of America’s soul, with all of its signification. It is a film that captured the postwar American meridian. The audience may indubitably view the film and hearken back to the “civilizational peak” of America, disregarding that it was during this period that materialism and self-actualization were considered the highest goals of life. Tom Ripley embodies this postwar American maxim, completely solidified through Delon's beauty and further bulwarked by his perennial yearning toward material prosperity-absent morality. Set against the backdrop of an untainted Italian paradise; its virgin-like qualities perfectly align with Protestant and Catholic virtues. The idealism here is second-to-none, and the film's aesthetic intentionally brings about feelings of equanimity, lust, and pining. In film noir, shades of grey, dark shadows, and low and Dutch angles augment seediness and immorality in the narrative; yet despite the contents of the film, _Purple Noon_ is ubiquitously baked in sunlight. There are no “murky labyrinths” or confined spaces; all is open and colorful, inviting the viewer to enter and savior what is shown on screen. The film is saturated with affluence and opulence: color values, textures, location, wardrobe, and even Delon, the perfect distillation of Protestant beauty and values. Clément bombards the viewer with lavish landscapes of Italy, accentuating a beauty that is seemingly vast and abundant. Italy itself is presented as “underpopulated and unpolluted, a paradise for footloose Americans” (O’Brien, 2012). Clément’s adaptation of the novel takes some liberty with its ending, perhaps understandably so given the time it was made, but despite this, there is still a moment of triumph as Tom Ripley basks in the sunlight, even as he approaches his impending end. The cinematography here is superlative, emphasizing the visceral summer heat, as if the ambient temperature were melting away the facade of civility and revealing the narcissistic firmament beneath. In the end, Alain Delon’s portrayal of Ripley as empty sublimely showcases the spirit of amorality. Ripley’s pursuit of hedonistic pleasure is uncurbed. At moments throughout the film, the audience can feel some compassion for Tom as an individual whose poverty is as circumstantial as the wealth of Dickie. In his relentless pursuit for the very best that life has to offer, the audience begins to feel that the only thing that will justify Tom’s choice in murdering Dickie, is success itself. In regards to the message, one cannot help but take away Geoffrey O'Brien's remarks about the film, where he wrote, "you really can have whatever you want, as long as you’re willing to kill people and clever enough to cover up your crimes."
@Mousehansen
@Mousehansen 3 жыл бұрын
Have you read the books? Tom is very clearly NOT homosexual, a fact that remains abundantly clear throughout the series.
@kenhunt278
@kenhunt278 3 жыл бұрын
I grilled Minghella about that once. He died soon thereafter. Coincidence?
@maotsetungthot9144
@maotsetungthot9144 2 жыл бұрын
Purple Noon had a more handsome Tom Ripley Talented Mr Ripley had a more handsome Dickie Greenleaf
@prynner
@prynner Жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary, I'm mad about the Minghella version, though I've seen both. I love it's performances and much more interesting plot. I've yet to read the book, Seen quite a few interviews with Highsmith though.
@sheilabloom6735
@sheilabloom6735 9 ай бұрын
Purple Noon!
@ambiyakhan1991
@ambiyakhan1991 7 ай бұрын
Only alain delon ❤️
@DP-ie8tf
@DP-ie8tf 15 күн бұрын
As I see it, in Purple Noon Ripley is an innocent, albeit with a streak of sociopathy. He takes a childlike delight in trying on Philippe's clothes. Tom's not just rying on the clothes, he's trying on Phiipple's life. It's the life he wants, not the man. Tom is corruped by envy of that decadent lifestyle,l which he could never achieve on his own, that and Philippe's cruelty.
@Directorkey718
@Directorkey718 11 ай бұрын
Yes! video essays by adults who are aware of film history on KZbin! Thank you!
@donaldduck7461
@donaldduck7461 2 жыл бұрын
The original knocks spots off!
@lukacunningham342
@lukacunningham342 3 ай бұрын
I heard that Patricia Highsmith didn’t like how Plein Soleil changed the ending into them finding the corpse
@Zachymcsmacky
@Zachymcsmacky 13 күн бұрын
Wasn't a massive fan of Damon's Ripley, as his crimes seemed to have an accidental nature to them, so I could never quite buy him as this brilliant calculating psychopath actually capable of the things the story has him do. He's far too human to resort to such brutality so easily, and the moment at the end where he's regretting everything comes over as much like an afterthought as the cops showing up last minute in the original. Delon is much more authentic. Damon is unfocused and directionless
@francescaderimini2931
@francescaderimini2931 13 күн бұрын
Yes
@m1dn1ghter95
@m1dn1ghter95 3 ай бұрын
does anyone know the music used?? (the guitar)
@vova47
@vova47 3 жыл бұрын
Comparing matt damon with Alain Delon is like comparing vintage Champagne with Coca Cola.
@roychefets6961
@roychefets6961 3 жыл бұрын
Damon is the Coca-Cola!!
@cornpopisabaddude
@cornpopisabaddude Жыл бұрын
that's ok I don't drink alcohol anyway
@ErenDenizMert
@ErenDenizMert Жыл бұрын
Damon was the better actor tbf
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 2 ай бұрын
Great comparison. I'll remember it.
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 2 ай бұрын
@@ErenDenizMert Good God no!
@francescaderimini2931
@francescaderimini2931 15 күн бұрын
A review from UK stated that Jude Law should have played Ripley! Charming and Beautiful at the same time!
@anastasia10017
@anastasia10017 27 күн бұрын
matt Damon plays gay parts really well. he diid the Liberace movie (such a good movie ) and a will & Grace funny episode where he played a gay part .
@Rahoorkhuitable
@Rahoorkhuitable 4 жыл бұрын
The constellation of people that Minghella chose is absolutely unique...eh...bourgeois? The first time I saw the movie,the day after,the characters won't go out of your head...that has sth to say....
@florinnatu
@florinnatu 4 жыл бұрын
your voice is cool af. saying this as a man 😆
@Hashpotato
@Hashpotato 4 жыл бұрын
its pretencious, put on, cringe.
@ScribblebytesWorldwide
@ScribblebytesWorldwide 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that you have to qualify your compliment with "saying this as a man" is the very reason people like Tom Ripley exist. Just relax and be yourself. You're allowed to like other men's voices. You're also allowed to like other men and even marry them if you please.
@florinnatu
@florinnatu 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScribblebytesWorldwide you.re allowed to fuck off. and that.s no compliment,even if it may sound like one ps. that "ripley exist"comment shows,you didn.t get the movie. but you.re allowed to see it many times. then again...with your low brain capacity you might need to be allowed into the first grade again. good luck
@mattbower4763
@mattbower4763 4 жыл бұрын
can you not compliment another man without feeling insecure about your sexuality
@florinnatu
@florinnatu 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattbower4763 can you stop being such an ahole and not assume that everybody else is exactly like you? i know perfectly who i.am and what i like to fuck. but maybe,just maybe,you are the one who is insecure?i guess you are 22 or 23 and know shit about anything,especialy about sexuality
@jazzyg6059
@jazzyg6059 2 жыл бұрын
Its a lot more psycologically thrilling when theres more psychology to it 😁 The talented mr ripley for sure. Way more depth
@EarthSoulsAstrology
@EarthSoulsAstrology Жыл бұрын
Alain Delon brought way more to the screen and story than Matt Damon and thus I’ll stick with the original
@heinzvoll7798
@heinzvoll7798 16 күн бұрын
Who would seriously compare Matt Damon to Alain Delon ...?
@hanniffydinn6019
@hanniffydinn6019 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Scott as Ripley? Sounds great ! But I hope they use the original film and book and keep him totally cool, and french! Maybe it’s better as a period piece? 🤯
@animalgarden825
@animalgarden825 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew Scott the actor, not Tom Scott the youtuber LOL
@hanniffydinn6019
@hanniffydinn6019 3 жыл бұрын
@@animalgarden825 the lines have blurred.....think I watch too much you tube....! 🤯🤯🤯🤡🤡🤡🌍🌍🌍
@ВикторияБекало-н5г
@ВикторияБекало-н5г 8 ай бұрын
Мэтт Деймон сыграл потрясающе и более глубоко был раскрыт психотип персонажа…В версии , где Деймон в роли Тома убивает Дикки, ведь убивает он его ненамеренно. И как красиво и ужасно ведёт его судьба в дальнейшем, чтобы замести следы …Очень много трагических и одновременно прекрасных диалогов …Том Рипли раскрыт в фильме, как очень тонко чувствующий и одарённый музыкант , но из-за своей неуверенности ,насмешек богатого друга, невольно становится профессиональным убийцей…
@tractor720
@tractor720 2 жыл бұрын
Jude Law and Matt Damon should have switch their roles. Law would have been a more appropriate Tom In terms of charisma. Damon has a too well-behaved charisma ;-)
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 4 ай бұрын
I personally think Damon is the better actor of the two. It's cast fine as it is.
@janedoll3237
@janedoll3237 3 ай бұрын
Jude Law just looks like old money. And I think Jude Law is the better actor by far.
@zachlen48
@zachlen48 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only person that saw Talented Mr. Ripley and Breakfast at Tiffany's, both about people living a lie as to who they really are.
@ivyimogene
@ivyimogene 2 жыл бұрын
Always the original with Alain Delon...
@garyqian11
@garyqian11 Жыл бұрын
Mark Demon is no way to compare with Alain Delon .
@akaemzett
@akaemzett Ай бұрын
Yeah, I also prefer Matt Damon.
@reubencanningfinkel5922
@reubencanningfinkel5922 4 жыл бұрын
Another great vid. Cheers!
@jean-lucb565
@jean-lucb565 Жыл бұрын
Alain Delon IMBATTABLE !!!
@1017ajw
@1017ajw 4 жыл бұрын
Great job
@francescaderimini2931
@francescaderimini2931 13 күн бұрын
Purple Noon was a tight film to the point. The talented Mr. Ripley went on and on with Damon looking confused. It was a bit contrived with the two women meeting at the Opera and his new love interest.
@saadsiddique7745
@saadsiddique7745 11 ай бұрын
Alain delon
@alquin9553
@alquin9553 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished the 1st book, and Damon is Ripley.
@vova47
@vova47 3 жыл бұрын
Better read it again.
@Mousehansen
@Mousehansen 3 жыл бұрын
Completely disagree, the Ripley of the novels is entirely different than Damon's portrayal. I can't even fathom what would make you say that Damon is Ripley after reading the book.
@peg202xo7
@peg202xo7 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mousehansen I read the first bo od, got hooked, and read the other four
@peg202xo7
@peg202xo7 3 жыл бұрын
They were fantastic, and Delon's Ripley is so much closer to the novels.
@Mousehansen
@Mousehansen 3 жыл бұрын
@@peg202xo7 Agreed, Delon's portrayal was much closer. Glad you enjoyed the books.
@Secret_Garden88
@Secret_Garden88 3 жыл бұрын
Did u know alain delone was against making this classic movie a remake?
@Jackflip1996
@Jackflip1996 5 ай бұрын
ALAIN!!!!!!
@rudy1999
@rudy1999 Ай бұрын
Damon looks like an ogre next to Delon on screen xD
@micomrkaic
@micomrkaic 5 ай бұрын
Purple Noon and it is not even the same sport!
@aisle_of_view
@aisle_of_view 7 ай бұрын
Dickie? Dickie Greenleaf? It's Tom!
@brownigirlpie
@brownigirlpie 3 жыл бұрын
I like this version so much better than Ripley. I absolutely hated Matt Damon's character. To this day I can't watch him because of his portrayal of Tom Ripley. Mind you Jude Law was flawless. Whereas Matt Damon was creepy purvy, imho, Alain was Sublime.
@skyejacques
@skyejacques 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to say that if you hated Matt Damons character then he's done a brilliant acting job and the direction went perfectly. Try to watch him in his first movie with Ben Affleck. Masterpiece. Good Will Hunting
@kamuelavance9332
@kamuelavance9332 2 жыл бұрын
wow, I didn't know they were similar
@pdruiz2005
@pdruiz2005 Жыл бұрын
At 3:37. Shocking. I didn't know the Italians in the 1950s were so loose-goosey with the gay PDA. LOL. I remember seeing this scene in the Matt Damon film, but thinking it was just a flight of fancy from the director. Evidently not. Were the Italians of the 1950s like the Arabs, where men can do A LOT in public and they wave it off as "friends being friends"?
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