JD Vance COMPLETELY Out-Of-Touch Weirdo Behavior Continues

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[@Dasilton]

He asks why his mother in law didn't just keep her job and give them money? She kept her job, she was on a sabbatical, and those are usually paid. How much of her money did she use to help care for his child? She didn't take time off to "care for this child." she took time off to help her daughter, who obviously wasn't getting any help at home.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

It’s very strange for a person seemingly OBSESSED with families and family values and how children should be raised and how women should behave etc etc to turn around and claim that money is just as good as having a mother and/or grandmother actually caring for and nurturing a newborn. Extremely weird.

[@grantjeffcoat3142]

It is extremely weird But it also speaks to...just being a very small person. Money and parental love/care as interchangeable.

[@Martinroadsguy]

Liking south asian women is fine. It's a type. Analyzing women by ethnic group and their economic pros and cons and "unadvertised features" is beyond fetishization and weird as fuck.

[@fromthefire4176]

It’s objectification, dehumanization into possessions, something to own, control, use. Indeed weird af

[@eringo-bragh4243]

Very weird

[@leothenomad5675]

And Vance just let it slide without the slightest pushback.

[@ericb.4313]

It just feels like they're a few steps away from bringing out the calipers and suggesting phreneology is legit.

[@eringo-bragh4243]

@@ericb.4313 You made me laugh so hard!

[@T.K...]

"My wife had this baby" is an incredibly weird way to describe the birth of your child.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

Right! What the hell?

[@palamedes4740]

And admitting to not help her so his mother in law had to take time off to help instead of her actual husband.

[@spacecat6022]

He probably was only with the couch at the time so that baby is suspicious.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

@@palamedes4740 tbf he wasn’t a tenured professor. Who the hell can take a year paid off besides them

[@tpc3062]

He doesn’t support daycare, parental leave, higher wages, or likely tenure and sabbaticals for professors. So he just doesn’t support others having the privileges that directly benefit his life

[@N-S.]

So... he's a republican?

[@QuaiChandler-nn5du]

He thinks that he's chosen by god so when others get a fair chance it cuts into his ego

[@daphnebabcock1151]

He didn't support the child tax credit

[@bobbycrosby9765]

But they worked hard for those benefits! Nevermind that millions work hard and still don't get them. Bootstraps!

[@horsthorst11]

@@bobbycrosby9765 something something bootstraps

[@miketacos9034]

He just cannot stop himself from seeing people as objects to exploit and serve him.

[@ninskdesign]

It really is a big tell when men, who are talking about women, use “female” instead of woman/women.

[@screamskilos3951]

Except if it's in like a scientific context

[@philpottkentucky4802]

Especially if they never call men "males".

[@MrDesmondPot]

Yeah, always makes me pause. If, in a sentence, they use both man and female the chances are you’re dealing with someone with weird ways.

[@ConsciusVeritasVids]

_"I'm shopping for a female with wide birthing hips and large cheese-producing capacity"_

[@mattiereid77]

Oh you think so? Is it telling when people use phrases like “birthing person” or cis gen poly woman, or non binary female? I bet you don’t mind those so much. I don’t either but yet you beef over him referring to a woman as a female. Is it nothing but hypocrites and morons on this channel?

[@AB-nk5wv]

JD Vance is the greatest gift to the Democratic Party in a decade

[@StoneE4]

Since Sarah Palin?

[@Lerian_V]

Yes, because he has sane views that every normal person all over the world has.

[@miche3559]

JD Vance: "I'm a NeverTrump Guy...."

[@Regenmacher175]

@@Lerian_V LOL no. By the way, how does his boot taste?

[@Scallycowell]

@@AB-nk5wv Christmas to Harris, cancer to Trump. Either way, he’s the gift that keeps on giving.

[@christiansachse6630]

And then when women or anybody drops out of the workforce to take care of their family, what will they do for healthcare in the dystopian world the right wants us to live in?

[@outlawbillionairez9780]

Demand female President Harris fight for a constitutional amendment for women's total equal rights! Discrimination against women is a violation of the 14th amendment.

[@fighttheevilrobots3417]

I dropped out of a 15 year career in Education to raise my daughter, born in 2022. Vance doesn't give a F about me.

[@spacecat6022]

They won't do anything. If someone dies without healthcare they send thoughts and prayers, if someone suffers without dying they just don't care. According to them, you need to lift yourself up by the bootstraps so if you're sick, then work and get money to pay your own doctor. See Trump? He pays his own doctor, see all those republican elites who were born into wealth and try to stop you from gaining more money, they pay their own doctors, so do like them. Once their daddy gave them 1 million, they lifted themselves up by their bootstraps and paid their own doctor, why don't you do like them?

[@ASaund-qb6wy]

"Weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman" OMFG. Well, you said it. Weird.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

What were the advertised features? Did Vance choose this lady for her race??? Weirdo…

[@cymtastique]

This...disturbs me on so many levels... It's very _kind_ that gram gram did that for you, but expected? She's raised her children already. She did her part and paid her taxes. The only thing gram gram has to do in her golden years is whatever she dang well pleases. You know, just like what grandpa is expected to do.

[@michael3123]

Not once in the conversation did he speak about him taking a leave to care for his child. It is up to his wife or a female in his wife's family to care for the child. Why can the father not care for the child if the mother is going back to work?

[@bugz5556]

So Vance couldn't be bothered to help his wife with the kid, so the grany had to come over and help out.

[@kingcynic5669]

I didn't want my mother in law to move in with us for a year after each one of our 3 kids. Nor did my partner. That would have been fucking awful.

[@CassilovesMocha]

He said, "7 weeks after my wife had this baby and IT still wasn't sleeping..." WTF IS THAT? IT is your child as well, Mister JP Mandel. But 7 weeks is practically still a newborn IMO. He's just as insane for saying those braindead things.

[@MarvinMonroe]

Lmao he called his child "It"

[@SamClemens-id3cl]

Ok, so...why didnt his wife quit her job? Its not MY ideal. Its HIS. He thinks women should stay home with the kids unless its HIS wife, if theres a post-menopausal stand in available?? WTF?

[@Regenmacher175]

Republicans never live by their own supposed principles. They just know what they need to say to appeal to their voter base.

[@zsuzsablom6256]

My question exactly.

[@robinantonio8870]

Yeah they could certainly have afforded a paid nanny

[@kjw6383]

Post menopausal women are considered used up and exist only to provide free labor when mr important needs it and doesn't want to pay for it.

[@monicarenee7949]

Yes that was my thought too. If he’s so “traditional” his wife shouldn’t even be going straight back to work after just having a baby.

[@joshuaDstarks]

Bless his lil couch creaming heart

[@iadorenewyork1]

And closet door

[@user-em6ie2be7x]

JD Vance trying to pass himself off as normal, is an even bigger joke than Trump being a "Stable Genius".

[@eringo-bragh4243]

Hyper-liberal? That's what cultures do to support their families. JD is a sell-out

[@tegg.7958]

Every time that jd vance speaks, he proves himself to be more misogynistic, creepy and weird.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

It baffles me the kind of men that women decide to marry. I don’t blame women for their husbands’ behavior but I DO wonder why and how the hell they decided “This is who I want to have children with”.

[@Yomel123]

@@OscarLangleySoryuthey’ve been brainwashed into thinking they’re inferior to men. Hope she wakes up one day

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

@@Yomel123 I guess? I feel like being inferior in some ways doesn’t necessitate being with someone mean and selfish but I get what you’re saying.

[@savannarbananar]

I hate this so much because in a lot of ways JD Vance is right. It *is* better for children to have multiple adults outside of their parents around to partake in the child rearing. It teaches them that they can rely on others besides their parents and gives them stability and comfort as they grow. The idea of the “nuclear family” ( *and* its “necessity”) has in many ways *destroyed* our society. Studies have shown that extended family households are not only better for the upbringing of children, but they’re just better overall. They have better financial stability, better emotional support *in* the house (obviously this is contingent on your family *not* being aßholes), and a better distribution of household responsibilities. But of course JD doesn’t actually care about this stuff and had to taint this really important issue with his straight up misogyny.🙄

[@cassandratq9301]

Yes. " It takes a village"

[@feathersigil2048]

Vance didn't say those things because he understands the benefit of "it takes a village", he said those things because he wants females to be his broodmares. All he knows is misogyny.

[@missadventure3397]

“My wife had ‘this’ baby” and “a new mother with ‘her’ infant”. He sounds so removed from his own family. The way he speaks about his own kids is so weird.

[@rqdh22501]

Was hoping someone else heard that as well.

[@magnuscarlsson9969]

I think it sounds just like how the anti-feminist debaters used to sound back around 2010. Women as objects, children as objects etc. I don't exactly know which group he's trying to appeal too... Not even those numbskulls talk like this in 2024.

[@ConsciusVeritasVids]

He probably only sees his kids on their birthdays and on Christmas, as the nanny takes care of the kids the rest of the time.

[@maddii34u]

Ew. 🤢🤮

[@maddii34u]

Sounds like a sociopath.

[@deniseellyson3742]

So why did Vance "allow" his wife to work outside the home rather than staying at home to raise his child?

[@kyliepechler]

Yes, it's hypocrisy for him to be declaring that it's a woman's duty to have a child and be at home caring for it, while he was fine with his wife going back to working full time, just 7 weeks after giving birth.

[@kittycatmeowmeow963]

Because he's a man. Men don't take care of children, women do.

[@Scallycowell]

Love the biological essentialism. Very 1939 strategy.

[@NoisyHill_]

Next step is a „Lebensborn“, where arian women were supposed to breed perfect arian babies. 🫥

[@fancykarlmarx]

“My wife had this baby”

[@kyliepechler]

It's now on record and could easily be found and brought up in any future news video. So how will his son or daughter feel if they eventually see the video of their father referring to them as "this baby" later on when they are older.

[@fancykarlmarx]

@@kyliepechler i know exactly how it will feel. Like shit. It feels like shit.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

@@kyliepechleroh I am 100% sure this isn’t going to be their cue that he’s fucked up He literally tells his 7yr old to SHUT THE HELL UP when the kid tries to talk to him- I know it’s frustrating when you’re busy with something important but he could have said Daddy’s busy show me later. And that’s what he voluntarily admits in public…

[@missadventure3397]

@@fancykarlmarx I’ve also heard him relate to them as “those kids” on another video. It’s sociopathic. Dude is giving me Chris Watts vibes.

[@fancykarlmarx]

@@missadventure3397 yea.. yea I see that

[@diannasgardenmenagerie967]

Post menopausal women now owe their grandkids childcare?

[@robinantonio8870]

So they want to inflict kids on us when we are young, then we they finally grow up we have to care for their brats too?! Some of us don't enjoy kids, thanks.

[@ms.l643]

Postmenopausal "females"

[@kel-A-3414]

Describing your in-laws or your child's grandmas as "Post menopausal women" is abso-foqing-lutely diabolical 😭😭

[@Misa.misato]

Even worse than that, “post-menopausal female”. 🤮 I couldn’t imagine talking about my mother in law like that. Weirdo behavior, it’s like they don’t know how to human.

[@monicarenee7949]

They only care about women in terms of their fertility. It’s so weird

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

Totally. I’d venture to say it’s weird to refer to women in terms of their menses at all in any context outside of medical care or education.

[@cassandratq9301]

😡

[@kel-A-3414]

@@OscarLangleySoryu it's an unhealthily level of obsession with genitalia. What your genitals are doing or not doing, what kind of genitals you have, what you use them for, it's weird. Ohh you wanna use the bathroom? Pants down buddy, gotta make sure your genitals match the bathroom. Like they need to get a life.

[@Amayzun1]

Um, I'm a grandma. I'm 46, I can not retire or just leave my job to watch my granddaughters. Not all grandparents are sitting pretty on retirement.

[@facthunt2facthunt245]

You're too young to be a grandparent. You must have had your child when you were a teenager or something. Smh

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

@@facthunt2facthunt245??? So we are assuming that she had her child at what, 16? 17? 18? So that means we are also assuming the daughter then had her own baby as old as 25-27…? Why

[@Amayzun1]

​@@facthunt2facthunt245not that I owe you any kind of explanation but I was not a teenager when I had my son. And my son was not a teenager when his wife had their first child....

[@damejanea.macdonald2371]

I can’t eat Aristotelian morality, JD.

[@VoicesEnEspanol]

Put that on a t-shirt. 😄

[@sydroper4761]

When I heard “Aristotelian” I blacked out for a moment.

[@vreeker40]

It's pseudo-intellectual gibberish. He's trying to sound smarter than he is.

[@iflan09]

As long as its the women giving up their jobs to care for the kids its ok, but ask the man to do it, forget it. If we had subsidized child care, paid family leave, child tax credits .. guess what? More people would have kds! Forced birth isn't the answer.

[@grmpEqweer]

It's too bad. What if some guy wants to stay home and take care of his kids? He gets ridiculed.

[@MJH-kr4zg]

“The economic logic of always prioritizing paid wage labour over other forms of contributing to a society is to me, it’s actually consequence of a sort of fundamental Liberalism that is ultimately going to unwind.” No Senator, this is a consequence of CAPITALISM, not any kind of liberalism. The all knowing “market” simply doesn’t prioritize raising children.

[@NoisyHill_]

Exactltly. How is someone supposed to live „contributing in other forms“? They need money.

[@MJH-kr4zg]

@@NoisyHill_These types of right wingers Vance, Ross Douthat, Tucker Carlson are all the same. Bemoan how the “traditional” family is being destroyed by the current economy but don’t propose any structural solutions, blame people and their choices.

[@kaileebailee23]

Now to be fair, liberalism (classical, not to be confused with American liberalism) is the philosophical basis for capitalism. Obviously tho, Vance is a classical liberal and a conservative and supports an agenda that only reinforces this idea. He wants to talk about family but his policies and ideals conflict. This is a central problem for modern conservatives. They cannot materially critique capitalism yet their roots of philosophy are a critique of liberalism.

[@naomisoltesz9890]

Liberalism is inherently capitalist.

[@tylerhackner9731]

He’s the worst

[@chad77657]

Damn, J.D. Vance's childhood messed him up.

[@gibbsm]

he has no idea who he is.

[@grmpEqweer]

In that I feel sympathy for him; but he doesn't get to take his crap out on the rest of us.

[@nancyjay790]

Hm. So, Vance presumes that a woman's only benefit they receive from work is a wage. Not personal achievement, not social interaction, not being in a field that they continue to expand. Just a wage. And everything being said by the MR crew about the issues with child care. Bless his cotton socks, as my grandma would say, there's no helping him.

[@darwinawardcommittee]

Gee I wish everyone could take a year off on a sabbatical. She didn’t give up her income. She gave up the work associated with that enduring income. And if you are in the private sector without “sabbatical” good luck getting that job back as a “post menopausal” AKA “old” woman. Because they ain’t hiring old people. Well maybe Home Depot is.

[@ms.l643]

😂😂😂 Home Depot

[@teniente_snafu]

It always boils down to extremely weak and insecure guys wanting to be put in control of everyone else even though they have no competence or ability whatsoever.

[@clayredwood5808]

It was a great gesture and sacrifice for his mother-n-law, but she also sounds like she had the means to leave her job. Also, she might’ve been ready to retire. Either way, the crew is right about Vance having a very myopic view of American life.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

She took a little time off which may have been paid anyways. She didn’t quit

[@ilovsleeping]

capitalism is the reason western countries are so individualistic & do not encourage extended family to live together, like the example jd gives of his mother-in-law living with them for a year. infants in western countries cry more because there are not many people who are there to take on the role of comforting them and getting their needs met, it’s normally just two parents if that. and it’s because of capitalism.

[@ilovsleeping]

it takes a village is not an exaggeration, yet how many of us know our neighbors? why is that?

[@ilovsleeping]

a sense of community & being able to get aid through that instead of financial means is scary to capitalism. it’s on the path to class consciousness. when you realize the people around you, if you build a relationship, will almost always provide for you while the government does not, you become disillusioned with the system.

[@ilovsleeping]

i was going to be evicted because my university made an error and didn’t distribute my financial aid correctly, they continued to give me the run-around. i posted on my instagram explaining the situation and asking only those who could spare some money for help, i was able to pay my rent the same day i made the post. all of the people who helped me were fellow students and young adults who understood my situation. the university system didn’t help me in any way.

[@NoisyHill_]

Good points. We‘re depraved of enough connections.

[@robertjackson8246]

I've always maintained that we need menopausal women around young boys. Because of Aristotle.

[@ciaronsmith4995]

Aristotelian politics? What is he talking about? What next? His anti Darius III speech?

[@marcob2137]

So weird!!! He gives me the heebie-jeebies!!!

[@TurtleTimeVoiceOvers]

Most women can’t afford childcare, much less IN HOME childcare. Must be nice. He hasn’t a clue.

[@outlawbillionairez9780]

Unwanted Ad Vance.. "It's not weird! It's not like my couch cushion is my sister or something!"

[@youdontseeanoldmanhavinatw4904]

JD Vance is dangerous and ignorant

[@MrNeodylliphan]

I was a professor at a private college in Canada. My wife got pregnant and in the third trimester I was let go before I could take parental leave.

[@aspacelex]

So household labor is equal to wage labor, but JP Mandel doesn't have a policy to make it a paid occupation? How convenient.

[@humm23]

I had DD in 2010. The cost of daycare, the cost of going to and from work, the random I did not have time to make lunch so grab lunch, and the tax bracket etc it was going to cost me $3,600 a year to work. I did have some investments that helped, and we made it work. But I could not go back to work in the real world If I had to and this is with a degree. I could not imagine the cost of daycare now. I have no idea how people make working full time and kids work.

[@NoisyHill_]

I have no idea either. I live in Germany where it‘s much easier, but it‘s still tough.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

A lot of people have their parent watching their kid… You know, since Boomers had a nice economy for themselves then ruined it for their own children, they can afford to retire

[@daphnebabcock1151]

I would have loved my mom to stay with me after i had my baby, i would have loved to helped my daughter in law, neither of us could afford to. It's not like they plan to help with the enforced parenting

[@ilovsleeping]

there are parents who choose to stay home over working because the cost of childcare is so high that it’s not feasibly worth it to work when a majority, if not all, of the pay would go towards childcare. why wouldn’t the parent just stay home with their child in that situation?

[@rabbott9938]

A big part of hillbilly elegy is Vance believes his academic success was due to living with his grandmother because there was quiet in the house and one-on-one support

[@NoisyHill_]

Why do they always have to say „females“ 🙄 We‘re women.

[@Noooiiiissseee]

They see you as a biological entity made to make babies, and not as a human being.

[@grmpEqweer]

_Almost_ all of you. I'm a physically-female nonbinary. Being called "woman," "girl," or "lady" kinda squicks me out. But I can't be out at work, so 😞. ...Right wingers hate us nonbinary people too, just differently.

[@NoisyHill_]

Ok, true, but that‘s not why they say females all the time. It‘s kind of dehumanizing.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

@@grmpEqweerthey’re definitely not being inclusive by doing that, lol, that’s 100% definitely not their point. He should have said women. He’s talking about women. That doesn’t mean he’s talking about you at all.

[@fifthavenuegirl]

it puts the lotion on ....psychopath from silence of the lambs

[@LauraVee63]

A biology professor who took a sebbatical to care for their grandkid? That would be in a perfect world. Wake up, JD; not everyone has a mother-in-law who's a biology professor who has the luxury of taking off for a year! Does this guy live on Mars?

[@taintedlife2618]

Wow so his mother in law was there to serve his white tail as she should?

[@nevarran]

As usual the Republicans are pointing out the issue, but at the same time completely twisting it and pretending they don't understand what the solution is.

[@ms.l643]

If stopping work to take care of one's grandchild is superior to child care why didn't JD's wife just stop working to raise her own child?

[@Mandy87Marie]

Either subsidized childcare, or more paid parental leave is needed. Pretty sure Republicans aren’t advocating for either.

[@ms.l643]

Referring to grandmothers as "post menopausal females" gives a lot of insight into the Christian conservative view and valuation of women.

[@buildinganewworld2682]

Grandparents being with children would be an amazing thing to promote in society. To bad JD has no idea how to do that.

[@stevenkies802]

If this is what he says in public, imagine what he says behind closed doors.😮

[@wingoshack]

"It's the abandonment of a sort of Aristotelian virtue politics for a hyper-market-oriented way of thinking about what's good and what's desirable" Holy hell, who TF talks like that? I can only imagine the terrifying Yale boating club or whatever where people are discussing inane esoteric nonsense like that.

[@jimfigurel3274]

Too intellectual for you?

[@grmpEqweer]

Apparently, Yale taught him to couch utter bull feces in an elevated vocabulary.🧐

[@wingoshack]

@@jimfigurel3274 that corny shit? lol "His werid-ass outdated misogynistic ideas are actually deep because he referenced Aristotle" 🤓GTFOH

[@wingoshack]

@@grmpEqweer seriously

[@upnorth2421]

What did he give up to carry his part of the childcare?

[@sarah_757]

I challenge this weirdo to tell me *anything else* about Aristotalian logic and philosophy. I'll wait. 😂😂😂

[@soysaucehairdye7869]

Eric Weinstein was appropriately named Warts by Redbar.

[@wks197980]

Imagine critiquing a family members love for you and your family. What a psycho. Their whole worldview is turning the screws on everyone including children. I wish I was privileged enough to have family help with a newborn.

[@iwanttobelieve5970]

Wait. What!! She should pay them for a babysitter??? 🤬🤬🤬

[@fakedeath13]

The end is basically what I'm weighing as a 28 year old in NJ, unless I get a partner with a really solid income I'm never going to be able to afford any sort of apartment in my area, most go for 50-60% of my monthly take home pay... Yet all my family lives here and I'd have to leave everyone for myself to make it on my own. It sucks.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

I left NYS for Florida because I wanted a job at Disney World, but the only reason I could do that is it used to be SO affordable to live here. Right next to the resort. Disney now pays 3x what it did when I started- ($6.50/hr) but I’ve done the calculations and it basically just covers the difference in rent, if you’re lucky. I used to make my rent in a week in 2006. Again, _right behind WDW._ Now I couldn’t do that with the same job despite them starting CMs at $18/hr today. It’s fucking bonkers.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

And yes, this economy is designed to squeeze a couple… if you’re single you’re just f-d. I know because I’m single now and boy is it rough to pay everything on my own. Even as a waiter making more than I did as a CM.

[@stefanloots9630]

Why does no one say this....A vote for Trump is a vote for JD V.

[@HannibalOrJustRex]

Earlier I heard him say that the average price of a new car is costing people $50,000 a year. Now, I'm not sure, because I have never been able to afford a new car, but I seem to understand that a typical car loan agreement is for 6 years. Does he think people are paying over a quarter of a million dollars for an average car? Is that how much he's used to paying? Is he incapable of understanding the real value of a dollar to the average person? Whatever it is, he's way out of touch.

[@franklinsfriend2035]

He is so out of touch with reality, it’s quite startling.

[@obiwan3993]

Harris all the fucking way. Donate, volunteer and Vote. Time to save democracy. Harris all the fucking way. Donate, volunteer and Vote. Time to save democracy.

[@LunaBoo12]

Love it when Emma and other non-Sam voices get to be heard!

[@GeorgeVaaeth-kc9wc]

His mother should raise HIS kids. 😂

[@trevorxlindeman1798]

Tenured professors who take sabbatical are usually paid (depending upon the institution pay can range from full pay to a percentage of the full pay) during that sabbatical. How many professions will pay an employee let alone allow them to take a one year sabbatical? US is a country in which 20% of full time employees get zero paid vacation time and less than 50% of part time employees have paid vacation time. Even worse, roughly 25% of all workers in the US have no paid sick days. Is JD Vance willing to sponsor legislation to guarantee all workers paid sick days, paid vacation days, and paid parental leave?

[@knicksfule]

I can't deal with these pseudointellectuals talking about families and dating like they're contemplating the cosmos

[@shmackydoodRon]

He is overthinking a very normal thing. The grandmother provided some child care. This has nothing to do with Adam Smith, Aristotle, or Darwin.

[@matthewheywood8532]

No working class family has a parent that can afford to take a year off

[@CranberryStrawberry]

3:15 me when I’m trying to impress the bartender 4 shots in and i have half a business management associate’s

[@franklinsfriend2035]

Vance, Obviously your mil had enough resources that she could help your wife and newborn for a year. Do you know that the average mil couldn’t afford to do this? You are so out of touch with the problems of normal people.

[@ZZSmithReal]

It's bad enough getting along with your mother-in-law. I can't imagine what family holiday gatherings would be like if you call your mother-in-law a post-menopausal waste of space whose sole purpose in life is to raise your kids. LOL

[@quakers200]

Parents taking care of their children like my wife and I did is the norm. Grandmother taking off a year is not the norm because most employers are not holding a job for a year and most grandmothers need the income. Was this before or after Vance made 10 million dollars.? How about paid leave for the average income folks. My mother-in-law has lived with us for five and a half years now. She is in her nineties and we are both retired.

[@godofgaps-w2n]

he was lucky his in-law offered to take care of his baby but instead of being grateful, he wants to pressure grandparents to take care of their grandchildren

[@Grannyjane-or2lc]

He preached about women being greedy and working instead of nurturing their children. Why didn’t his wife stay home with her own children.

[@mountart2]

Why pay people to do a job when you can get them to do it for free?

[@letthetruthbetold...finall6771]

This dude is a psychopath

[@armashuvitz]

He's a venture capitalist, yes

[@grmpEqweer]

Psychopathy occurs on a spectrum. Some just have the empathy of rocks, others eat their neighbors.

[@imperatorvult]

this bullshit about how mothers should not work is kind of fucking infuriating to me. if my mother hadn't worked then my family (me, brother and my father & mother) would probably just been barely scraping by on what my dad made at his job. instead, my mom got a job too, which got some extra scratch so we could afford to have some nice things every now and then, and have a good jumping-off point for going to college and ultimately moving out on our own. because *that's what good parents do.*

[@Starchdread]

Vance thinks he's speaking "academically" about socio-economic issues regarding his family but really he's just exposing himself as an effing creep.

[@PKellyTeacher]

WHY DIDN'T JD'S WIFE STAY HOME & RAISE HER OWN KIDS? WHY DIDN'T JD STAY HOME?

[@DrtyALGreen]

Exactly the first person I've heard bringing up the sebatacle statement. The priveledge of being able to take a year off is unobtainable for most Americans.

[@AlannahIrwin-wj9xc]

I had a very good friend in Gaza for a while during Covid, and he (among many) were extremely, extremely skeptical about the vaccine exclusively because Israel was letting them have access to it

[@susanv6297]

So basically, not only did Vance’s wife continue in her career, she also secured child care for the family. So… as a ‘female’ she’s more productive than Vance.

[@mimio008]

The MIL did it because she loves her daughter and wants her to be able to pursue higher career goals. Not because women be babysitting.

[@DoctorBiobrain]

This is bizarre. It’s absolutely NOT the norm in America for grandmothers to move in with their adult kids after they have a kid. My mom just visited and brought a ham casserole to save us from having to cook. I’d have HATED if my mom or mother in law moved in with us.

[@fredericomolina1692]

The opposite is actually true. Moving in with parents to have relatives help raise kids while parents work.

[@DoctorBiobrain]

@@fredericomolina1692 There are an infinite number of familial arrangements and it’s a mistake to pretend there’s one right way. People go with whatever works for them. But righties like to pretend there’s one right way to do everything, which is whatever they imagine people did 50,000 years ago because they think we stopped evolving at that point since they’re immature and wish they could act like cavemen.

[@MJH-kr4zg]

I remember when Brett Weinstein compared Lech’s mean tweet to an airplane pilot showing up to work drunk or a surgeon refusing to scrub up before surgery. Good times.

[@sarahrampling2433]

Capitalism working as it should. F the workers

[@TheMightymolar]

Wait, I thought Vance's wife was supposed to stay home with the kids to be a good mom, not that her mom was supposed to do that?

[@ayanleman]

Conservatives are one bad news cycle away from trying to use phrenology deflect from weirdness accusations, Mark my words

[@spacetoast2491]

It’s like they’re so close to getting it, just not quite.

[@patdavis3043]

Her mother had the elitist ability to take a sabbatical and babysit for a year. While his career and profit driven (non trad wive) went back to work. Nobody lost any money or career advancement in the bargain.

[@living_water-]

He has three kids; did the grandmother leave her job for a year each time? Even in his case, it isn't sustainable in the long run.

[@tonisodano5472]

Wtf is he talking about I’m sorry but shady is just weird .

[@jenniferward2012]

Sounds like for one year, JD's mother-in-law got on his nerves.🤨🤨🤨

[@HarkiratSingh-ov9en]

South asian here, it's the part of culture to make sure that the initial years of a child should have a heavy influence of grand parents......he is just making a weird justification of it

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

He’s being super disrespectful about it. It’s one thing to say ‘her family’s culture is like this…’ or something, it’s another to be like ‘an unadvertised feature of marrying a person of her race’ just so so weird