Samsung Galaxy Ring vs Apple Watch Ultra: Shockingly Bad Results!

[@moisesm.4484]

Aren't you supposed to wear it on your index finger? I think that's what I heard.

[@Blade70]

I wear my oura ring on my middle finger. Edit: My Watch 7 has been pretty good compared to my oura ring though.

[@TechOdyssey]

Samsung recommends you wear it on your index finger because that’s what you’re supposed to use to tap with for the gestures but they said you can wear it on any finger.

[@ShawnWells]

From Oura who's been doing this much longer: According to Oura, the index finger is recommended for the best performance and accuracy of their ring. The index finger usually provides a more secure fit, which is important for maintaining contact between the ring's sensors and your skin. If you prefer another finger, the middle or ring fingers are also suitable, but you should avoid fingers with large knuckles.

[@ShawnWells]

In general, fingers are considered more accurate than wrists for blood oxygen readings: Fingers Fingers are more sensitive to body movement, have stronger pulse signals, and work well with all skin tones. The middle or index finger are often preferred because of their blood flow and skin thickness. Wrists Algorithms used in traditional fingertip sensors may not work well for wrist measurements, and some studies have found that over 90% of wrist readings can be inaccurate. However, wrist oximeters can be useful for sleep studies and other activities where wires aren't practical.

[@Cryptid71]

That's not true. The reason you are supposed to wear it on your index finger is actually a medical reason. There are veins that go directly from your index finger to your heart so you get a much better reading of your heartbeats​@@TechOdyssey

[@moc2292]

Ok absolutely love that you did this comparison. Nobody really goes into how accurate the data they provide is. Hopefully when you get your watch ultra you'll do a follow up.

[@TechOdyssey]

@@moc2292 I plan on it, if my watch ever shows up. lol

[@jdmz1103]

No 3rd device to use as a control? How do we know which was actually closer to accurate?

[@TechOdyssey]

Believe what you want. Or feel free to buy me a third device

[@jdmz1103]

@TechOdyssey wow, snarky remark. It was a legitimate question with validity, but if that's how you want to respond ✌️.

[@TechOdyssey]

@@jdmz1103 I would have a third device If my Samsung galaxy watch weren’t back ordered for a month. Which I also bought. The Apple Watch is a known , accurate device for the biometric data that it measures. The point of the video is I noticed very inaccurate/inconsistent data and am sharing it because people are concerned and have questions about the ring. It’s not a direct review for “which is better”. They aren’t the same products. I used what I had available. If you’re that offended by “snarky” then I’m sorry. But it gets a little tired with people telling me to buy even more products or expect that I have XYZ to make every review video, all the time.

[@alexprach]

@@TechOdysseyConsider a proper heart rate sensor like the ones that go around your chest which are much cheaper, higher availability , and used by actual athletes and coaches. Look at DCRainMaker as he seems to compare these sorts of devices against each other. A control is usually something which is known to be accurate, but might not be as convenient as a ring or watch.

[@timdawson4662]

Why are you telling us that the Apple watch is more accurate? What are you basing this on?

[@TechOdyssey]

The fact that the Apple Watch Ultra is more accurate.

[@BrodeeRaney-zl1kf]

@@timdawson4662 to be fair he did say he was going to connect his Samsung watch to one of his s Samsung devices so we will see

[@jagalindo]

But you should compare that with a proper hr monitor, not a watch.

[@advisorSirAshley]

Also, the ring is suppose to be on your index finger 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@BrodeeRaney-zl1kf]

@@advisorSirAshley I don’t think this is a particular diss towards the ring, I doubt most people use it for fitness! So in all reality it’s pretty 😌

[@neutral6941]

U have to compare the same thing, not a watch 2 a ring. Compare a phone 2 a phone and a tablet to a tablet and a watch 2 a watch and a ring 2 a ring.

[@TechOdyssey]

No you don’t

[@elvijante]

On this specific test. The results should accurate or at least very close. No matter what device you use

[@MainInternetUser]

Well no, some people buy a smart watch only for health tracking so they wonder if they can replace the useless bulk with a ring, and looks like no

[@NEILANIL1]

Watch provide info on samples collected at distance from heart to wrist. Where the Ring gives the sample point at the fingers. Point of reference there will be differences based on reading due to blood volume distribution as well as the vessel size at the location.

[@yankeesusa1]

Just go watch the quantified scientist. He did an in depth review on all the new watches. The ring did get bad results and he didn't recommend it.

[@moshnroll507]

Forget the Olympics? DONE!

[@jstray83]

It will be interesting to see what the results are when you get the watch. Is it Samsung's software/algorithm, or the inferiority of tracking through fingers versus the wrist?

[@mightypine]

Thanks for your video! I am looking forward to your review of the ring in tandum with the watch ultra.

[@TechOdyssey]

As soon as t manages to show up in 3 weeks.

[@marklieberman8315]

The metacarpal veins run "into" the index middle and ring finger . Only the the smaller dorsal veins run into the pinky finger. The other fingers thus get more bloodflow

[@TechOdyssey]

Thats fine, I'm aware that the larger fingers are more vascular. But how exactly does that explain the major discrepancy in the pedometer which was over 1000 steps off for one day and and has nothing to do with physiology?

[@BrodeeRaney-zl1kf]

Overall which experience is better for you? Minus this video, and which one would you choose all around?

[@TechOdyssey]

I like both. But, I could see myself using the ring to see myself from wearing a smart watch and could wear a regular watch again instead, at least on occasions, which would be nice. Especially if the ring gets better with more features later.

[@BrodeeRaney-zl1kf]

@@TechOdyssey I would say that the ring isn’t so much used for fitness, like the Apple Watch. But isn’t it working better with your Samsung watch 5?

[@BrodeeRaney-zl1kf]

@@TechOdyssey aside from the fitness/ health category how would you rate the Samsung ring compared to the Apple Watch Ultra?

[@LouAnnBeuke]

I have read from several health sources the Index finger is the most accurate for health data. That being said, I have had the ring in gold too btw best color for a week and have found the metrics to be marginal at Best. I also have the Galaxy watch 7. I am an avid fitness person, lots of exercise and have been monitoring stats for years. The ring gives stats the are way off especially on steps and heart rate. It also doesn't always connect or it will say it's connected when it's not on my finger and in the case. I have decided to return as I believe it interfers with my watch doing it's job and doesn't provide any benefit worth the price tag. Will be interested in your full review!

[@chuckcole2002]

Thanks for this comparison. Appreciate you. So how do we know that the apple watch is the one that is accurate?

[@TechOdyssey]

The Apple Watch is a verified device that is known for its accuracy and I’ve been consistently using for a long time and has been very accurate.

[@superiortoall22]

Quantified Scientist has a channel where he tests fitness smartwatches, Apple Watches are the top dogs, Samsung watches are usually around the middle/lower end. Currently the most accurate smartwatch would be the Apple Watch SE 2022.

[@chuckcole2002]

@@superiortoall22 Thanks

[@KurtCobain2021]

To ensure accurate data, it is essential to wear the Galaxy Ring on the index finger.

[@superiortoall22]

lol “you have to wear it like this” sounds kind of like when Apple was telling people to hold their phones a certain way for better reception

[@maverickmig211]

I think the right comparison will be with the Oura ring. After seeing several reviews including Marquees, I went with the Oura as I can use it with the iPhone and just Amen android. I have both phones so want to be able to use it with either phone

[@TechOdyssey]

It’s not about a comparison. It’s about whether the ring is accurate or not. Notice I only compared like features, and that was after I noticed serious inconsistencies in biometric data. This is for awareness, not for someone to decide whether to buy an aura ring or a Samsung ring.

[@maverickmig211]

@@TechOdysseysorry I did not explain it correctly. It would be good to compare the results/readings on both rings.

[@TechOdyssey]

@@maverickmig211 if I had two rings I would gladly test that. Sadly I have only one.

[@TheF15Mechanic]

My galaxy watch Ultra was the same as the apple watch in close comparison for blood oxygen and heart rate. I didn't go with the ring because my finger size fluctuates too much.

[@CAC8K]

That matte screen protector is boss!

[@mherald]

How do you know your Apple watch is more accurate? I'm not saying the Galaxy Ring is 100% accurate, but it matches my Garmin Epix Pro and my Oura ring on a few things. The only thing that is off on the Galaxy Ring is the HRV. Also, the sleep stages probably not good to compare. They'll be different from device to device. Even the gold standard of detecting the sleep stages is like 80% accurate.

[@TechOdyssey]

The Apple Watch Ultra is known to be very accurate

[@mherald]

@TechOdyssey I don't think the Apple watch is known to be the most accurate for sleep tracking, at least from sources that I've watched that have done detailed reviews on this. I think Oura or Whoop would track better in that. And I trust my Garmin Epix Pro as well. I'm not saying the Galaxy Ring is better in accuracy, but it'd would have been better to include a 3rd device. I've been wearing my Oura ring, Galaxy Ring, and Garmin Epix Pro the last few days. Most of the things that you've called out as complete inaccuracies are typically within a reasonable measurement on the 3 devices that I have. The only thing that I've noticed way off is HRV, but all 3 are usually off on that but consistent with themselves on a daily basis.

[@privxete4089]

@@mherald I like this review, its just a comparison. But quantified scientist, that uses a third party for sleep measurements, is more accurate. So Apple watch is more accurate, even tho i use samsung products, i cant lie about it, or defend samsung.

[@marklieberman8315]

Adam . With all the heck everyone has given about which finger, the Quantified Scientist found similar results as you on some things! Needs improvement

[@TechOdyssey]

Wow. Surprise of surprise. I’ve had other people validate my concerns as well wearing it on the “appropriate” finger

[@davidgough4750]

Please compare the Galaxy Ring with the Galaxy Watch 5 Pro and the Apple Watch Ultra 2. I am thinking of using the Galaxy Ring together with the Galaxy Watch 5 Pro instead of the Galaxy Watch Ultra.

[@TechOdyssey]

I just setup my watch 5 pro after this video so I can see how well it works

[@davidgough4750]

@@TechOdysseygood luck...

[@bussy7627]

I think its safe to say this release has been an embarrassment. I ordered the buds, and it came with the most obvious QC issues. The only solution that samsung seems to be giving is reorder without the discounted preorder price, and get it a month later.

[@rjc0188]

I don't really care about all this health tracking stuff 🤷🏻

[@TechOdyssey]

Ok. You don’t have to. It’s just informational.

[@rjc0188]

@@TechOdyssey I get it. It's your work to do reviews and let people know. Those who might want/need the ring will appreciate it.

[@black79montecarlo123]

I would hope a watch would be more accurate than a ring....

[@TechOdyssey]

Well yeah.

[@kind2de]

Hmmm, a $400 device vs. a $800 device, is that fair???🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@TechOdyssey]

Fair isn't the point. It's not an either-or proposition. It was showing how inaccurate the ring was, and also... this watch is 2 years old and you can get an AWS9 for cheaper than the ring with the same or better hardware than the AWUltra

[@kind2de]

@TechOdyssey We are all going to assume Samsung Ring just came out and software updates will increase performance over time.

[@superiortoall22]

Not how it works, sensors need to be manually and physically tuned. What you get out of the box is what you get out of the box until the next Ring comes out next year. Updates will help with say collecting and interpreting data but if your sensors are inaccurate, it will end up interpreting the inaccurate information still giving you incorrect data.

[@kind2de]

@superiortoall22 Ahh, NO, software updates can improve performance with firmware updates and improve the ability to read the information coming from the ring, AND, software updates can fix software errors and bugs.

[@superiortoall22]

@@kind2de I work with sensors, these cost millions of dollar and Raytheon isn’t sending an OTA update to calibrate them, I highly doubt a $650 watch is getting calibrated OTA lol they have to be manually calibrated, you can’t use OTA to update sensors. The ability to “READ” information doesn’t help if the sensors are incorrect to begin with. You can update the software to interpret data all you want but if the wrong data is sent from the sensors what good does that do? If these could be updated then why haven’t the last 3 iterations of the watch been updated and still have shit sensors? Don’t say “well this time Samsung says it’s different” it’s too early for corporation worshipping.

[@marklieberman8315]

As mentioned herein , you need to wear the ring on the correct finger to get accurate results

[@TechOdyssey]

Not entirely. No.

[@advisorSirAshley]

@TechOdyssey bro, you can say no.. but it's definitely the wrong finger. 🤷🏿‍♂️.. I find it entertaining that you keep debating this fact. If you want to do a fair comparison, get a ring that fits your index finger and do the comparison. I get it... You wanted the youtube content and made the ring size"work" for your comparison, but to gaslight us is beyond you... or so, I thought 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@TechOdyssey]

@@advisorSirAshley tell me this then. What about people who can’t get a ring that fits? Samsung doesn’t say that it doesn’t work as expected on other fingers. I spoke directly to a Samsung rep whenever I was looking at the rings before they even came out at a product briefing and was told that the reason for the index finger is because it’s the most natural for tapping not because it’s the most accurate finger even trying the sizing kit and I have small small hands the 12 and 13 barely fit on my index finger and I have very very small hands for a guy. I know lots of dudes that have a size 12 or 13 ring finger and can’t wear one of these on an index finger so is the presumption that if you can’t wear it on your index finger then it’s not accurate? Because then that’s a really really big issue.

[@jtec99]

If you woke up... respiration rate was just fine.

[@TechOdyssey]

Exactly lol

[@annettaschweitzer2166]

Could it be because you got the smaller ring and wear it on your pinky?

[@TechOdyssey]

Size has nothing to do with it. Samsung says you can wear it on any finger. It’s designed for the index though because it’s easiest to tap with for gestures. It doesn’t matter what finger too wear it on for the pedometer. That’s way off and has nothing to do with where you wear it. The index finger is more vascular than the pinky and could account for some variance, but unknown how much.

[@annettaschweitzer2166]

@@TechOdyssey That's icky. I hope it's something they can fix with an update. If you pay that kind of money for something it should work correctly right out of the box.

[@bvenglade2]

When it comes to accuracy, most are, if not all smart rings are accurate on the index finger and second best is your middle. Or a ring finger.

[@rodrigofernety]

I want that ring

[@TechOdyssey]

I like it. It’s neat.

[@every1has1opinions]

this should be against another ring not a watch they're in two different categories, more so samsung ring vs. oura ring or ringcon or ultra human ring.

[@Cryptid71]

You do realize you're wearing the ring on the wrong finger. Even Samsung says for the best results you are supposed to wear it on your left index finger. So already you're not even giving it a fair shake

[@TechOdyssey]

It’s not the wrong finger. I say through browsing with Samsung and asked this very question be what the sizing is very limited and I can barely wear the largest ring size on my index finger and I have very small hands for a guy. They said they recommend the index finger because it’s easiest and best for tapping for gestures. Now, I’m sure there is some variability because of the index finger being larger and more vascular just she to blood vessel size, but that has zero impact on some features. There is no excuse for the pedometer steps being her 1000 steps off, is there?

[@JedEckert]

The ring is meant to be worn on an index finger.

[@TechOdyssey]

The ring can be worn on any finger. Samsung recommends wearing it on the index finger for the best tapping experience for gestures. There could be some variability due to finger vascularity bur that nothing to do with the pedometer being 1000 steps off.

[@ExposedRoot]

Adam, you literally kept calling the Apple watch ultra The Galaxy watch ultra. I haven't gotten into the end yet and hopefully you came in and edited out or at least acknowledge the fact that you kept saying Galaxy watch ultra when talking about the Apple watch ultra.

[@TechOdyssey]

If I did I didn't realize it. Ultimately what's important here is the data but my apologies if I kept saying the wrong thing.

[@notedqg1891]

Wish I could get a ring

[@TechOdyssey]

I had to buy the smaller size just so I could get one. I pre-ordered the appropriate size and on launch day was notified that it's back ordered with no known date when it will be available

[@SirRob05]

I appreciate the comparison. But i dont believe its a fair one. Fingers are more accurate. So the ring is probably more accurate than your Apple watch. Working in the medical for a while.

[@TechOdyssey]

Fingers are more accurate when you use a pulse ox on a finger tip. I don't think it's fair to say that the underside of the lower part of the digit is more accurate, but also the point of the video was to illustrate the lack of accuracy in the ring, not so much a "this is better" argument - former EMT-intermediate

[@SirRob05]

@TechOdyssey The Galaxy ring can measure the pulse more directly from the arteries in the finger, which may provide a more stable and accurate reading. I doubt you disagree with that, as you were an EMT. The wrist has a more complex structure with bones, tendons, and muscles, which can sometimes interfere with the optical sensors used to detect the pulse. You were an EMT, so you already know that. Watches shift and move, rings don't. I'm not saying the Apple watch is bad or anything like that, watches can't measure your heart rate like rings can on a consistent basis. I'm sure the Samsung Galaxy watches have the same problem to Apple watches do. That's all I'm saying.

[@TechOdyssey]

@@SirRob05 the rings do shift though. They’re designed with the sensors on the bottom that are supposed to seated on the underside of the finger. It had a marker indicator for positioning. It can easily move or get turned, even more easily than a watch. Another issue is the sensor and the power. The ring afaik checks every 15 min for HR/O2. It’s very limited on battery and these apparatus use more than nominal power. The watch has more powerful sensors and checks constantly in many cases. So it’s not only a location and physiological issue.

[@SirRob05]

@TechOdyssey that's the reason Samsung, and similar health ring companies, send you a sizing kit. The perfect fit is necessary. The sensors have to be on the bottom, the arteries and capillaries under the finger's skin are closer to the surface at the bottom of the finger, making it easier for sensors to detect blood flow and such. Plus, the top of the finger is more exposed to external elements and activities that might interfere with sensor readings. The Oura Ring does the same thing as samsung and they are huge. I can see the Apple watch and Samsung watch being good with steps. But as far as vitals and such, they can't beat a ring.

[@cassio499]

get more sleep buddy

[@murtazachaudhary3339]

Nice video

[@TechOdyssey]

Thanks!

[@bigravs1]

who said apple is not wrong

[@superiortoall22]

Apple Watches are considered the most accurate fitness trackers, Quantified Scientist shows this in his research. Samsung usually falls in the mid category.

[@billzkustomz]

Ring is on pinky...inaccurate reading

[@TechOdyssey]

How does it being on the pinky make it over 1000 steps off compared to the watch?

[@bigravs1]

that's what you say that the apple watch is better

[@OmegaXXX1]

Gosh these apple lovers 😐😐