Samsung Galaxy Tab S8: An iPAD USER'S FIRST IMPRESSIONS

The new Galaxy Tab S8 line-up is here! In this video I look at the S8 tablet and give an overview of the tablet and my first impressions. I also look at the purchasing experience to ask whether Samsung is able to compete with Apple on all fronts.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:27 Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 First Impressions
9:08 Purchasing Experience vs Apple
12:29 Performance & Benchmarks
13:46 Conclusion

[@teachmehowtodoge1737]

As an iPad user, I went to the store and tried using the tab S8. Minutes later I ordered the tab S8+. I say good job for Samsung.

[@Joshua97776]

Try out some emulators too 👀😅👌🏾

[@mrbobo86]

You'll love the multi tasking. It's like nothing else

[@sahildeepsenapati8891]

Which color did u choose ?

[@he.236]

S8 and s8+ vs iPad air 5 which display r best

[@sinceredtb3227]

@@he.236 the s8 has a tft lcd display which isnt great but the s8+ has amoled display and is by far the better display compared to ipad air 5 and ipad pro

[@montrich1]

It's been a couple months now since I've bought this tablet and it is great. kzbin.infoUgkxLNmVocUk8tnSkwWIlYSNFzWRIaFTBuzS The tablet is responsive and runs well. There were a few times that the tablet did an awkward thing where it would detect pen on at all times and wouldn't register finger press, but it is usually fixed by closing and opening either the screen or app. This is highly likely due to my excessive use for drawing which caused this and wasn't really very big. As I mostly enjoy using the tablet for drawing (and some light gaming), I would comment from that aspect that there is definitely more accurate pressure and drawing using a PC device and drawing tablet, however i find the moveablity of the tablet more enjoyable to draw on. Like how you can physically rotate and move a piece of paper around or even draw casually on your bed.All in all, as a tablet it is good, and as a drawing device can be good depending on what you want from a drawing device. It is definitely good enough if you just want to use it to take notes. For typing though I can't comment on the keyboard as I did not get the keyboard.

[@jkmtl73]

Great review, but like other reviewers, you didn't mention that writing or drawing with the S-pen will work without it being charged. It won't die on you mid drawing like at Apple pencil. From what I understand, the charging is for the extra features like using it as a remote control.

[@littlepinkystarr]

The charging only affects the remote functions. I have a s7 and I can't even remember the last time I charged the S pen.

[@kingsknightuk]

Hey man, coming from a massive ex Apple fanboy I loved this video. I moved from an ipad air 2 to the Tab S4 and never looked back. I sold my Macbook Pro and now use Tab S7 PLUS for everything. I have a dock so I just plug my tablet in and I have my office set up and use DEX when I'm on the road. I work with a lot of andriod devs and being able to install ANYTHING i want at anytime I want is a godsend! I've never once thought "wow I wish my tablet was more powerful ". Cannot wait for an update to this! I do wish you had yourself a pair of Samsung Buds please they pair just as easy as the airbuds did with the ipad air and sound WAYYYYY better.

[@goobfilmcast4239]

Tech ages fast....look at the new M1 iPad Air......$599 for 64GB....$750 for 256GB....whoa!

[@leiahart]

Quick question: can you do iPhone backup through iTunes with the S8+??

[@SoumalyaHomRoy]

@@leiahart iTunes is not available for Android.

[@alvinjackson532]

How's the tablet in terms of longevity? especially the performance. I love and use samsung phone, buds, and watch, but I think differently when I see the tablet. I bought the Tab S in 2015 (?) and it's lagging in two years of usage.. and now it can't even be turned on 😂(that is acceptable though since it has aged a lot).. but I was thinking on buying the ipad air 5 due to the long term usage.

[@kingsknightuk]

@@alvinjackson532 well over a year later and im super happy with the switch. its been perfect for me. still have a great battery life and use the tablet almost every single day. im writing this comment on the same tablet as i wrote the main comment on :)

[@stu-j]

I think apple are kings of the tables but I've just pre ordered the tad s8+ because apple don't let you side load apps for say watching TV shows and movies. My old tab s4 is still running perfectly and to be honest I just wanted something new! My mam will love my tab s4!

[@teachmehowtodoge1737]

Give your mum an S8. Lol

[@sreenibalabalaki4237]

The King is buying screen from Queen. So always remember Queen is the Real king.

[@robsauceda4087]

iPads are the best hands down, but I got me a tab s8 for myself due to the less restrictions on apps as well

[@stu-j]

@@robsauceda4087 I've got the s8 ultra and it's an absolute beast of a tablet! Huge and being the top one with 5g cellular connection its the biggest phone ever! I love it and I don't think I'd change anything on it and I don't think I've actually turned on my mac book since I got it.

[@mounirbassou9207]

I think the s8 is better

[@SuperDraupnir]

Samsung Dex is what ultimately turned me from iPads to Samsungs tablets.

[@ConstantGeekery]

It is a very neat feature. 👌🏻

[@michellehansen1563]

I was an early user of android tablets, but gave up on them. They tended to be slow and had terrible displays. I switched to iPad. I have been using iPad pros and liked them very much. Recently I bought a Samsung tab s8. I really like it! Though I am sure it is slower than my M1 ipad pro I really don't notice. The display is great. I use it a lot.

[@the-star]

Hey do you have yellow tint issue in dark mode and how is the tab now &which charger do you use to charge it

[@michellehansen1563]

@the-star there is a bit of yellow tint. I have since bought an additional s8 and now a s9 to replace older pads. I like to use Anker chargers, but the samsung charger is ok.

[@the-star]

@@michellehansen1563 thanks for the reply

[@Timmy-fm5nr]

Samsung’s tablets are great including their IUI and Dex. I have used S6 . Bought S8 and the keyboard cover is delivered together. Don’t need to spend more on accessories

[@anasimion]

An insightful review of your experience (have to roll the eyes and laugh at the plastic wrap for the iPad recycle!) ~ looking forward to hearing your thoughts as you start to test it more in your workflow. Thanks again!

[@zer0pulse156]

the TFT display is top notch, it's at the high end display. the whites is not that white compare to the amoled, but for me, it wont strain my eyes that much.. and bonus part, there will be no burn in for TFT

[@NFS-shade]

I just pre ordered on 10 Feb and i'm scared Sammy will left out the keyboard. I have contacted them several times few days ago but they told keyboard is shipped together which im wary about it.

[@Hard_7_Iron]

Well done…and you get DeX too! I’m an iPad Pro user, and wish I could use my monitor without bars… From all I’ve seen, DeX looks great when plugged into an external monitor. I liked this one a lot. Can’t wait to learn more. Thank you.

[@ConstantGeekery]

Thanks 😊 I will do a DeX video when I’ve had time to play. It certainly looks good, even without the external monitor.

[@official.rajarshidutta]

I ordered it today. Thanks for this detailed review.

[@sgoh95]

in Malaysia, the BookCover Keyboard is inclusive within the Tab S8 box itself

[@daisyintherain]

This was interesting and there’s certainly plenty to like about the S8. Encouraging that the s-pen was good for writing, which for me would be a big plus, as I don’t draw either. Will be good to see how you get on with it longer term. Thank you 😊

[@mayank09pratap]

drawing with s pen is great actually.

[@maldo007]

Good information and you're right about the packaging. I received my laptop in a big box without any protection.

[@ConstantGeekery]

Yikes 😳

[@plaiter2009]

Recently upgraded from an S7 and thought they would send the return pack separately as they had done in the past didn't realise it was in the box. Also thought I had been mistaken about the keyboard case until I saw you had to claim for it. Was expecting it to be in the package. Many thanks for the video it helped a lot.

[@joonlee920]

That's strange because here in the US, the free keyboard comes with the Tab S8 - there is no claim form.

[@elitechen5918]

people dont read the small print.......

[@TheManojah]

Looking to buy the Galaxy S8 plus/Ultra Tab. The only thing holding me back is a functional webclipper ( as in Windows ) which can give me simplified articles of web news. Any app which can give me that?

[@alexandregouge6075]

Actually for the cover here in france we have the same offer though it puts it directly and automatically to the cart while purchasing the tab s8 so you don t have to claim anything

[@2kdegree24]

I laughed when you started shaking the delivery box lol.

[@mostlymessingabout]

To be fair, Samsung came out with this design before the iPad with the Samsung Tab S4

[@Kapil__Lanjewar]

I recently bought the ipad pro 12.9" model for note taking. But based on your feedback about S-Pen, I feel like I should have waited for this product launch. Did I make a mistake? @Constant Greekery your thoughts?

[@ConstantGeekery]

Not at all! It’s just a personal preference. I have been quite happy taking notes with my iPad and Pencil. Enjoy your new tablet - it’s a beast! 😁

[@Kapil__Lanjewar]

@@ConstantGeekery Thanks a lot for those reassuring words! 😇

[@MrRSlavchev]

@@Kapil__Lanjewar in my experience, notes taking on ipad (i have 11'' pro) is not good at all without paperlike folios. Without it, it's very clumsy and defintiely S8 series have the better experience without any protectors/folios.

[@josh3326]

Very good video. Great that you included the purchasing experience with Samsung. I use both platforms, and buy many devices. I can say that Samsung is far different than Apple in terms of purchasing experience. I found their customer service to be lacking knowledge. It is somewhat similar with Google. Apple does have the best experience overall, but lack in innovation. That's my only complaint.

[@HevaNaisdey]

I'm an everything apple user. My brother just bought the s8+ and let me use it for a few days. I must say samsung has come a long way! I remember I moved on to become an ios user after a laggy, unresponsive experience with the galaxy nexus and galaxy s6 after only 2 years owning each device. I guess hardware must have improved greatly, to the point improvements now can only be made through software optimization. I think in 3-5 years samsung will have a complete ecosystem of its own. That's the only thing I love about apple; I don't need to download a seperate app for every single thing I do. Everything is seamless. That said, my experience with the s8+ was smooth. Samsung notes is amazing, the s-pen feels better than my apple pencil. I can't belive he only paid half the price of what I paid for my ipad pro lol I heard that samsung now offers up to 5 years of os and security updates. That means, they're serious about building their own eco-system, have a lot of confidence in their products and in their abilities to deliver such costly operation. I'll probably make the switch when samsung release an all-new, generational leap galaxy tab/phone model like the m1 chip in apple. Competition is always great.

[@noneofyourbusiness6100]

Dude, Samsung has passed iPads in every single area which is why iPads market share has crashed from 80% to 34% in the past 9 years, while Samsung has increased from 8% to over 20% in the same time period. 1. free pen 2. better pen functional 3. 1 million more apps 4. hundreds of thousands more free apps 5. Dex 6. upgradability 7. better customizability 8. better multitasking 9. better screen 10. better price to storage ratio 11. better price to memory ratio I will stop here because it is getting embarrassing...

[@ofiaich666]

Does the tablet s8 have a thin removable strip of film around the edges where the controls and speakers are? I can feel a thin film that maybe should or could be peeled off!

[@ConstantGeekery]

Yes, I think mine did have a film. I love peeling that stuff off! 😁

[@dymundprynsess]

I've had my s7 plus for almost 2 years, the spen is still like brand new. U actually summed it up for me. I have the mini 6 and the apple pencil and it's very true, when i draw i go to the mini6 but when I write I like the spen so much better Also, the packaging that I've gotten from Samsung is VERY premium, my s22 ultra came wrapped I biodegradable paper wrapping and bubbles. I use trade in and just use the box my product comes in

[@books3593]

Do you use a screen protector and if so, does it wear out the pen tips?

[@dymundprynsess]

@@books3593 I use glass protectors, I have one on my mini 6, the pen doesn't wear out. Since the s8 was so new no one was selling quality glass protectors so I still currently don't have a protect9r on mine. Yes they have come out wit all the protectors but I keep the s8 home unless I go to class. The mini 6 is for light travel and reading :)

[@books3593]

@@dymundprynsess Cheers! That’s good to know

[@dymundprynsess]

@@books3593 cheers :)

[@marcromen3266]

Thanks for the review! Did you use the included usb c cable with your 100W charger? Wondering if I can buy a charger not bundled with another cable to save some money. Thanks!

[@ConstantGeekery]

I left the cable in the box as I have so many. I can’t imagine you would have any issues using it with any charger.

[@marcromen3266]

@@ConstantGeekery thank you!

[@CAIORAZ]

On the Tab S7/8 I like that you don't have to press it down on the fingerprint scanner/ power button to unlock the device like you do on the iPad Air 4 and iPad mini. I'm surprised Apple hasn't figured that out yet.

[@Aurocia]

I agree with this, really don’t want to repeatedly use “mechanical parts”

[@adamski101]

You don’t have to press the TouchID button either. Double-tap the screen and then place your finger on the button. Job done.

[@CAIORAZ]

@@adamski101 On the Tab S3/S4/S6/S7/S8 you never had to do the extra step tap the screen. You just lay your finger on top of the button and it unlocks automatically. Another example of why Apple is a complete failure.

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@CAIORAZ eh they probably want to prevent unintentional unlocking

[@CAIORAZ]

@@chidorirasenganz Nope, never been an issue with the Samsung device I've ever owned.

[@arunprasadhj3719]

Excellent review, not many people cover the buying experience and the hassle of exchanging an older device. I tip my hat to Apple with regards to the shopping experience.

[@OM-kx3oo]

Balanced review...loved it.....would appreciate further detailed review of the same and comparison with Ipad air 4 if possible

[@ConstantGeekery]

I am hoping to do that. 👍

[@0tispunkm3y3r]

Could you do comparison on the screens between iPad and Tab? I bought and swiftly returned an S7 because the screen was such a let down. It was worse even than an ancient iPad Air 2. Colour rendition was bad, especially blues/light blues in photos. They were more aqua. The warmth of the display couldn’t be corrected. The screen contrast just seemed to disappear when viewed at an angle other than head on. I’d be interested to see if anything has changed with the 8.

[@dirtydirtsgt4751]

I have a tab s8 and it's more vibrant and beautiful than my brother's air 4 Viewing angle is great as well and it's surprisingly bright Color accuracy might be a bit off though, you can use natural mode for more accurate colours but it's way too natural and dull

[@ronnies9291]

Does S8 screen has warm tone?

[@EzDoesntExist]

Simple and straightforward. No trashtalk. No fanboy talking. Thanks for your professionalism and taking this serious. Great review!

[@mhanif2756]

Wait what? U need to claim the free gift? I pre order tab s8+ and will be expected to delivery next week. I dont know that i need to claim it

[@shuvamsky]

hello i m interested in purchasing this model as well but can u give me some details about display like dcip3 or ntsc gamut. on their site they mentioned its a TFT display. i m worried if its not good .

[@ConstantGeekery]

Samsung don’t publish that information - or at least if they do, I can’t find it. All they say is it has 16M colour depth, like the Tab S8+ and Ultra. I have access to a lot of premium devices and I think the Tab S8 is comparable. I haven’t noticed any problems with the display or its colour depth. Colour gamut charts look good. Compared to Apple displays the colour temperature is more towards blue, but that’s just how it’s calibrated and many would probably prefer that as it makes whites look brighter. In direct sunlight, the display could do with a little more brightness, but in fairness you can say that about most displays. It’s a nice premium LCD display 👍🏻

[@ronnies9291]

Does it have a warm tone? I've read that it doesn't have a slider for colour tone.

[@Shay416]

I went to a tech conference. EVERYONE had s8 or samsung tablets I thought they were giving them out. But I had to check it out.

[@nyccolm]

Terrible experience with the trade in option for me- it doesn’t seem to recognize my very expensive Galaxy S 21 phone. And like you, I’m right on the Samsung site, in my case, in Canada. Generally their website is far below Apple in quality. And hearing they only provide updates for four years was the final nail in the coffin for me. But I’m also not ordering an 11 inch iPad Pro until they bring the better screen technology to the smaller iPad. If they expect me to pay $1500 CAD for a new iPad Pro in November 2022 they’d better correct that issue or they can piss off.

[@runi2453]

I want to buy a tablet and I end up choosing between the ipad pro m1 11" or tab s8/s8+ . I also want to wait for the mini led ipad pro update ? Do you think the next ipad pro will come out with it?

[@drscrubs]

Wonder if your ordering problems is unique? When I pre ordered, the keyboard case was automatically included in the order. I did not have to do any claiming after the fact to get the keyboard case.

[@ConstantGeekery]

Whereabouts in the world are you? Perhaps different regions have different processes.

[@sukalaksa3847]

In Malaysia 🇲🇾, keyboard and s pen included in the order.

[@mannkeithc]

Thank you for another interesting and well thought out video. I suspect Galaxy S8 Tab real world performance will not be an issue, though it will be interesting to see how many apps you can open on the S8 before old apps have to reloaded when you return to them. My experience of Android devices Vs iPad OS devices is Android is less efficient managing RAM compared with iPad OS. I am also interesting on your thoughts regarding Samsung's DEX desktop mode. Is it useful, or just a gimmick for a Tablet computer? In the past, I have always wished iPads offered a desktop mode when you connected a keyboard and mouse (like Chromebook Tablets / 2 in 1s), but now having used an iPad Pro M1 running latest iPad OS 15, I am not sure if this is still a must have. I do wish iPad OS allowed more emulation apps and virtual machines. Emulation is one area Android scores over iPad OS, but interesting to see if this situation changes as Apple makes it easier to side load apps on iPad OS / iOS following recent court rulings.

[@ConstantGeekery]

I will try and do a review on DeX. It looks very cool, but I’ve yet to test it in anger. I’m seeing pros and cons to both Android and iPadOS. If only we could merge the best bits of both systems!!

[@dirtydirtsgt4751]

Dex mode is very useful, i use it all the time on my tab s6 lite

[@hybridinfodesk409]

Here's what you can do with a Samsung Android tablet and phone...3D rendering, schematics, architectural design, illustration, motion graphics, animation, video editing, and multimedia design easily. You can take, make, and answer calls and texts. You can also connect it to your smart TV split screen or full. Use your own artwork on your TV in art mode or sideshow. Imagine seeing your artwork in 50 inches or above. These are tools people.

[@ST-ry7lr]

You can do all of these on an iPad as well.

[@sparra98]

@@ST-ry7lr that file management sucks ass

[@ST-ry7lr]

@@sparra98 That is true, but to be fair this is not an issue with 99.9 percent of iPad users. And though Android has an accessible file system, it's also a PITA IMHO.

[@hybridinfodesk409]

@@ST-ry7lr Whatever works for you.

[@OnlinePez]

@@ST-ry7lr it is an issue for 100٪ of ipad users, its just there's nothing they can do about it.

[@chid3835]

Late 2022 update: just got my tab S8 delivered in Germany. I disagree with three things from this video 1.) I have been using the tab for a few days now and the tab does NOT get warm at the back. 2.) The shipping was near to perfection. The box was well packed and delivered in very good condition. 3.) Got Buds 2pro free with the tablet. Did not have to claim anything. I also got free things with my S22 Ultra. And didn't have to claim anything anywhere. The freebies were sent along with the main product. So, I would consider the problem of claiming freebies localized to the UK.

[@albabyahya]

recently i moved from ipad air 3 to tab s8. I was thinking to take ipad pro M11 11" but considering working in windows ecosystem and DEX, decided to choose S8.So far this tablet is good and what's better than apple? samsung give me free keyboard and pen without any extra purchasing, super worth!

[@dirtydirtsgt4751]

I really love dex, i use this with mouse and keyboard more than my laptop because the display is much higher quality. The tablet itself is mucch more portable and versatile as well

[@surenspike]

yes i agree with their customer service and freebies strategy but the product always is worth of money. heating issue is one headache you can always feel with any of the models

[@anbrod1]

Bought the tab S8 through my phone webshop, very good handling and delivering, packaging.!

[@a7eca13]

Mines stuck in Retail mode, do you know the password to unlock it?

[@ibanezprestige5964]

Please review front camera 4k video recording. (Does it has EIS or not?)

[@ConstantGeekery]

I probably won’t do a full review on that, but I have just tried it. Camera is OK, but not up to the quality of a premium smartphone. It’s fine if you have good light, but it’s pretty mushy in low-light. There is stabilisation and it looks pretty decent to me. For a tablet, it shoots decent video.

[@ibanezprestige5964]

@@ConstantGeekery Tab s8 ultra doesn't has EIS on front camera video recording. Regular Tab s8 has it right? Great.

[@ConstantGeekery]

@@ibanezprestige5964 my bad - I misread your comment. Mine was about the rear facing camera. That said, the front facing camera appears to have some basic stabilisation too (either that or my hands are very steady today). 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@jamiefinlay6674]

Can I ask what stand was this one as need one for my S8 Ultra

[@ConstantGeekery]

It's a Pepper Jobs SSS-T6. amzn.to/3JoJrbr

[@dirtydirtsgt4751]

Thanks for the video, i was looking for a review like this but only found the ultra lol

[@niveZz]

as a gamer I realized that the snapdragon 8 gen 1 has many power efficiency, throttling and thermal issues (They even underclocked as well as having a service running in the background that throttles it even faster) So what I did was just to buy the Xiaomi pad 5 pro 5g (a device from 2021) Not only is that thing just way less expensive but also the performance in gaming with is actually way better since the chip was made by tsmc instead of Samsung. Also it offers faster storage and a way longer on time since the power efficiency was just way better. Watch geekerwan's vid for reference

[@Technocrat.]

Great video.

[@ConstantGeekery]

Thank you 😊

[@MatteBlackEverything]

I'm not sure if you are in the UK, but that is NOT our experience in the US for trade in shipping. We receive a box and get inclded bubble wrap. I preordered the Fold 3 and received all included items. Sorry for that experience! Sincerely, a Galaxy phone, tab, and watch user.

[@jasongooden917]

I bought a Chinese knock-off Pen from Amazon for my ipad for $25 canadian. it works perfectly on my M1 iPad pro. No way am i spending $150 bucks

[@ConstantGeekery]

I should get one of those and do a comparison. 👍🏻

[@jasongooden917]

@@ConstantGeekery I think it's Jamjake

[@ConstantGeekery]

@@jasongooden917 thanks - I'll take a look 👍

[@Therejectionartist]

Exactly, all these comparison videos always make it sound like the only pencil you can buy for ipad is a 130$ apple pencil. I got a third party pencil for less than 25$, works great, I am not an artist or prolific note taker, I just need something that works well in general use, so 130$ is a big waste of money for a user like me.

[@johna8999]

I have the S8+ and I can safely say I will not be needing my windows PC anymore. Samsung seem to be Android these days IMO, not only hardware but software too. Samsung easily beat IOS on features not ease of use but I think IOS is going the same way. I buy all my Samsung products directly, the buying and support experience is horrendous and stressful especially with pre order deals. Getting the S8+ was no different, my serial number was rejected too. I'm in the UK and my packaging was a lot better. Unfortunately, there is no meaningful competition to Samsung in Android, not even Google!

[@billjones8771]

Who makes the stand you are using in this video?

[@ConstantGeekery]

Pepper Jobs.

[@peteblazar5515]

Can you check level of Widevine DRM of device please?

[@ConstantGeekery]

It’s Level 1.

[@peteblazar5515]

@@ConstantGeekery Thanks. S8 Ultra allegedly can play Netflix 4K content, I'm not sure about S8(+).

[@ConstantGeekery]

@@peteblazar5515 Looks like it’s HD on the S8 for Netflix.

[@debiduttakanungo902]

Is reading for long in Samsung s8 cause headache? Is iPad air better than s8 for reading, udemy and KZbin? Plz suggest

[@ConstantGeekery]

I haven't had any problems. Either device is equally good. The S8 has a 120Hz panel, but that really doesn't make much real-world difference, IMO.

[@debiduttakanungo902]

@@ConstantGeekery is reading in s8 causes headache ? I have heard it from many that reading PDFs in s8 for long causes headache

[@ConstantGeekery]

@@debiduttakanungo902 I haven’t experienced that.

[@debiduttakanungo902]

@@ConstantGeekery ok thanks a lot

[@piyushkhengar]

Wait… was that the sweet, sweet sound of an Amiga 500 floppy drive just after the intro?

[@ConstantGeekery]

So sweet 😁 yep

[@ST-ry7lr]

Not sure if SWAPPA is available outside the US, but last week I sold an iPad Mini 5 with 64GB memory for $325 USD, for anyone who is interested. It's a solid place to buy/sell and charges sellers a fraction of what eBay charges. Sadly, the government will still tax the shiite out of your sale, even though you already paid the tax one when you bought it new.

[@MarSilly88]

Where did you get the stand for the s8 in the video

[@ConstantGeekery]

That one is a universal stand from Pepper Jobs. amzn.to/3YDKXPh

[@jaimeastin]

I purchased a keyboard cover and will return it when mine arrives

[@nechemia2011]

have to say my tab s8 came yesterday. it WAS very nicely packaged! it was rolled up in white tissues paper and wrapped up in thick recyclable brown paper! just saying

[@augere9620]

That's how my s22 Ultra came. Still waiting on my tab S8. Did you get the keyboard cover in the same box? I contacted Samsung after I watched this video and they said it should be included in the same box.

[@tam7499]

@@augere9620 I'm in the US and received my S8 yesterday. The keyboard case and protective case I got for free are on backorder, so I won't receive them until the end of March. I didn't have to do the claim thing he mentioned in the video, I guess it differs from country to country? I had the tab s7 though so I already have the keyboard cover with the kickstand.

[@nechemia2011]

@@augere9620 no keyboard coming tomorrow

[@augere9620]

@@nechemia2011 I was supposed to get my tab on Friday, but they back ordered it until next Friday. So hopefully that is just to have both come in the same box.

[@Vee-xg9yu]

i just purchased this thru their website a week a go, it came with the promised free Tab A7 Lite LTE and book cover keyboard case. I didn't need to go through the redemption process, I guess they changed their policy for the better. I am an Android user and most of my phones are Samsung, which I make use of DEX. I do have an iPad Air 2020 and I do love it but android is just more suitable for what I need.

[@johnchin4084]

Subscribed!

[@ConstantGeekery]

Thank you 😊

[@johnchin4084]

@@ConstantGeekery just super disappointed that the free keyboard option during preorder was already stopped lol but hey great content!

[@ml5444]

I like your style, no bs.

[@chotababyaurnanhabaccha7463]

I need tab for making notes Please suggestion me one among SAMSUNG S8 PLUS or IPAD AIR 5( upcoming) .🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁

[@devjon123]

My wife has just started her distance learning Masters Degree as a mature student. I bought her the iPad mini and Apple Pencil. She says it works really well for note taking from her lectures, and for marking and highlighting / copying / pasting text in her workbooks.

[@ConstantGeekery]

The iPad Air + Pencil will be cheaper than the S8+. Either would be a fantastic choice, so it is really down to personal preference. Probably the biggest factor is whether you want Android or iPadOS.

[@luluismo]

when it comes to free accesories from samsung the experience always not so great. i once pre-order galaxy watch 4 classic and it comes with a free $25 google store credit. for any sensible mind we would think it will ship with piece of paper contains the google store gift number in the parcel. ya it comes with a card but its a instruction card with QR code link me to samsung website, asked me to register the freebie claims. then i need to go through all the resigration a few days later, i need to go to a samsung service center and get the gift card. long story short there are more issues in their freebie claim procedure and makes me revisit their service centers just to get a free google gift card. Samsung mades great tablet but when it comes into service, apple is stil 20 years ahead of them.

[@snapdragon2441]

Thank you for your review. I am considering this tablet and one of the things I really need it for is spreadsheets.

[@johnSmith-uz8nl]

Great video. I personally would not get the S8 but would get the S8+. The screen is not great on the S8... regardless of what this video says.

[@TomTomdog]

Where is the video? Does the benchmark matter in day to day usage?

[@ConstantGeekery]

I have finally released that video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hImQdGmfo9WZg7M Sorry it's taken so long.

[@TomTomdog]

@Constant Geekery thanks man. Your the best !!!!

[@valhallasashes4354]

I currently have the Galaxy S7+. Which is virtually identical to the S8+ apart from only 2 notable differences. The S8+ has better cameras (which doesn't matter to me because if I need a good camera, I use my phone for that. Not my tablet. Nor do I consider 4k selfie cameras all that useful for video calls, because the bandwidth necessary to retain that quality is often out of the range of the people I would actually call, plus you lose quality to compression anyway. So I don't really care about ultra high resolution cameras on a tablet. On my phone, yeah it's definitely important, but not on a big tablet. The only other notable difference is the processor and GPU. On that front, the S8 models definitely have the advantage and was definitely a "temptation" for me thinking of upgrading. But only because I'm a tech enthusiast. The reason I say "only" because I'm a tech enthusiast, is because of use cases. What do you actually use your tablet for? Video editing? Not really in my case. The reason being is because if I'm going to edit video, I'm not going to do it on my tablet. I'm going to do it on my main rig because my PC has far more performance grunt than even the best tablet. So while I would use the tablet to "present" high quality video, I would never use it to "produce" high quality video. I would use a desktop for that. Now for photo editing (S-Pen is great for this), gaming, office work and media consumption, all of these things I would definitely use the tablet for. And all of which, already perform flawlessly on even the S7+. So I don't really see that there would be any tangible performance gain on the S8. Certainly a "measurable" gain, but a "tangible" gain? Not really. The reason being due to what's actually "available" on any tablet experience. There are no "real" demanding games out there on Android like there are on PC. Everything is made to work on a wide spectrum of devices and even the games that "do" have high performance options, only have high performance options for things like higher quality textures. Which is generally more dependent on RAM (since RAM and VRAM tend to be shared from the generalized memory pool on mobile devices) rather than actual processor and GPU performance. So in 99% of cases, the current gen processor vs last gen processor, really isn't going to matter at all. As you've shown yourself, your workflow documents still work flawlessly even though there is technically a "measurable" performance difference. This is the same thing with PC gaming. You have 2 cards with a 20% performance difference between them. Does that actually matter? Well if you're only scraping by, then yes, you would definitely notice a 20% increase in performance. But if you're already blazing through everything anyway, there's no way you're going to notice that difference. Plus there are so many other factors that affect "tangible" performance than "simply" raw performance numbers. Like OS overhead. Optimization. Available system memory. Multitasking capability etc. Such as the difference between a game that uses Directx vs Vulkan on the same hardware. In a lot of cases, the same game when using Vulkan will perform substantially better than when it's using Directx even on the exact same hardware. Why? Because Vulkan tends to have drastically lower overhead than Directx does. However, where Vulkan has the advantage in performance due to lower overhead, Directx has the advantage in compatibility and tends to be more "reliable" as a result. So while yes, raw performance numbers ARE important, people tend to place way too high of an importance on that "simple" number even though it never tells the whole story. So what do I actually use my tablet for? Android games. Yes. Runs everything perfectly. I have yet to find any android game that comes even close to stressing the S7+. The closest I can get to actually pushing the S7+, is when using emulators. And even that, it breezes through. The S7+ can emulate pretty much everything I throw at it up to PSX games. So unless the S8's performance increase can actually open the door to smooth PS2 game emulation, I don't see the S8 as being a "tangible" improvement to upgrade to. Media consumption. Again runs everything flawlessly. Internet browsing. Again perfect and I don't even need the 5G model for that on the road, because I can just turn my mobile phone into a wireless hotspot and connect my wifi tablet to the phone like any other wifi network and use my phone's internet connection as it's own. And since I always have my phone on me anyway, there's absolutely no point in paying extra for the 5G version of the tablet plus an addition data plan. That's a waste of money. Seriously, do not waste your money on 5G tablets if you already have a mobile phone. It's literally pointless and a huge waste of money. Office work. My experience is literally the same as yours. Even with demanding workloads and spreadsheets, it handles everything flawlessly. So I'm really struggling to see the need to upgrade from the S7+ from a "tangible" perspective even though the tech enthusiast side of me is screaming at me to get the latest and greatest. Oh man, that "temptation" is so hard to fight. But those really are the only two major differences between the S7+ and the S8+. They are virtually identical in every other way. Exact same Super AMOLED screen. Same connectivity standards. Same storage options. Same speakers. Oh btw, because you asked, yes, the S7's and S8's all have the exact same speakers. So they all have x4 speakers. x2 on each side. Although their tuning might be different. I will say I did not like the S7+'s default tuning. Loud, but several shows (like Star Trek TNG) sounded like they were talking from the bottom of a barrel. With retuning of the default audio spectrum, they can really sound great for watching movies and listening to music. If you'd like to try and see if you like my settings. Turn both Dolby Atmos settings off. Then select custom equalizer, then use spectrum settings from left to right (1.5, 3, 4, 2, 0.5, 1, 2.5, 4, 4). I find those settings to be far better balanced and enjoyable for media consumption while still being plenty loud. If you try it and like it, great. If not, fair enough, it was worth a try. Also, like you, I had a lot of trouble with Samsung's website. Especially in the UK. They just don't seem to offer the UK the same breadth of options as they do in Europe and the US. So much so that I was eventually forced to import my S7+ from the states to get the 512GB version I wanted. Surprisingly, I ended up getting the 512GB version from the states through Amazon Global (dispatched and sold from Amazon) for less money than it would've cost me for the cheapest version of the S7+ in the UK. And that was even when taking into account import fees and duty. Couldn't believe I got the best model from the states for less than the worst model in the UK. And Samsung seems to rely way too heavily on using the Samsung rewards app to redeem pre-order and device specific bonuses. It's easy enough to do to be fair, but Samsung is nowhere near transparent enough as to the process that's required. And the lead times for actually receiving those "bonuses", is long. I think I waited well over 6-8 weeks for the galaxy buds that were offered with my phone. I had actually forgot about them by the time I received them. Samsung definitely needs to improve the end user experience for purchasing their devices. Also, I know you're getting the keyboard case for free (I didn't), but you end up not liking it (looks a little flimsy to me) and want something more rugged and don't care about the keyboard, I highly recommend you look at Spigen for their Galaxy Tab cases. They are exceptionally well made, have a great built in slot for holding the S-Pen and worth every penny. Anyway, I've rambled enough. Too much. But I hope this helps at least.

[@santoshmudgal3253]

Usually I don't comment on KZbin videos, but this is one of the most honest and truly useful review I have seen... appreciate the great work and no nonsense approach 🙂

[@harryb8886]

Ditto, great review!

[@maxmi5534]

Is there adapter in box?

[@ConstantGeekery]

No, just a cable.

[@ST-ry7lr]

Sold an Samsung Android tablet late last year. The hardware was fine, but there are STILL very few apps that are developed to support the larger tablet. Anyone buying an Android tablet will be disappointed when they download an app they want, only to find that it's designed for a phone. I don't even want to think about what that will look like on the ULTRA! Other than that, for the price you can buy (in the US) a brand new iPad Pro 11" M1 with 128GB storage. The "free" case sounds good, but you have to pre-order from Samsung directly. This is a major pain because it's in stock for less at my local Best Buy, and it will take a week or more to get from Samsung. The only real thing I prefer about this Samsung tablet is the camera centered in landscape view. Apple should have moved this years ago.

[@nitric75]

its lucky that in malaysia, one doesn't need to order directly from samsung to get the preorder freebies. Just preorder from any authorized retailers to get the freebies. Samsung is giving the book cover keyboard (full version with touchpad), a neoprene pouch and a microsoft 365 personal with 1 yr free subscription.

[@ST-ry7lr]

@@nitric75 Very lucky for you - I can pick one of these up locally today, Samsung is saying they won't have any available until mid-April.

[@nitric75]

@@ST-ry7lr wow, mine is still not here yet. probably next week. Samsung malaysia is slow.

[@mrbobo86]

You can open any app as a pop up window that is resizeable to any aspect ratio you want. Let's see the ipad do that. Your Samsung tablet was obviously a budget tab that didn't have this feature otherwise you wouldnt complain about the optimization.

[@ST-ry7lr]

@@mrbobo86 Yes with the new Samsungs you can force the tiny little phone apps into a proper window, which is an improvement. That’s not the same as having apps that were designed to run on a larger tablet. Developers are not developing for Android tablets because they do not have a significant portion of the market. Also there are many different versions of Android running on even the newest phones and tablets, so hard to develop an app that will run on all of them properly. Don’t let your dislike of Apple blind you to the obvious issues that keep Android from being a competitive tablet alternative.

[@TheLyonkoke]

You should try dex !

[@herotrojan1645]

I'm very glad I bought tab S8 5g cellular of RM3067 of Malaysia.. it's around 691 dollar usd, I guess

[@mostlymessingabout]

Multitasking and file Management is 10x better than iPad

[@lollymanna]

one thing on samsung tablets. The samsung notes app is a dream. Amazing app that is.

[@mostlymessingabout]

@@lollymanna yiep. I've had it on notes and tabs. Awesomeness

[@sharonb.9128]

Great comparison video. It bothers me so when people causally shrug off Samsung’s and others cloning Apple devices. The “they all copy from each other” attitude. I think it’s bc when Apple copies, it’s breaking news and discussed repeatedly. I see much more of Apple’s shaping the exterior and interior workings of personal devices than Android. Apple patents a feature, Android quickly releases their variation on their devices I hope Apple doesn’t include a pencil like Samsung. They are never free and always baked into the cost of the device. I was shocked to see after about 2 weeks I never used my Apple Pencil. So many will be wasted, just like the “free” headphones we all wanted but never used anymore.

[@shannawallace7855]

The cost of the pencil is already rolled into the price of the device, since the tech that makes it work is in the tablet, not the pencil. Apple is just being greedy and collecting $130 on top of it because they can lol

[@shannawallace7855]

And look I'm no android fanboy, but saying apple is shaping the workings of the devices and Android always follows behind later is completely untrue. It is not uncommon for features to be available for years on Android devices before Apple finally releases their version. There are still currently features that you can get on Android that you cannot on any iOS device.

[@lookingatdaisies9901]

​@@shannawallace7855 hover is an example of a feature that's been on my tab A 10.1(2016) but when apple released it for m2, it was a "stop all the presses!" Kind of news... Their marketing is really good because people think they're the first to develop these things, I also realise apple names things differently too... In every comment section, I never fail to see an android user saying a device from years ago has something "innovative" Apple has just released. I wish serious design app developers would focus on Android (or at least Samsung Tabs,) because that's my only reason to look at an iPad.

[@hdwblade]

Idk how the ordering process was so bad, for me it has me add the free items to my cart, made the price 0, and that was it. Seems like you missed that somehow

[@ConstantGeekery]

Which country are you in? The order process is different in different regions. I didn't miss anything, other than the small print hidden at the bottom of the very long product page. It was a promotional claim that Samsung didn't make clear, and that will be region-specific. Nothing got added to the cart, nor was there any such option at the time of ordering. My keyboard has now arrived, and was shipped from Ingram Micro (a UK wholesaler), so I'm guessing Samsung outsource things here.

[@hdwblade]

@@ConstantGeekery interesting. I'm in the US. When you go to checkout, it lists all items included with your order. If you don't add it to your cart it won't be there for me, at least

[@BusyraKhiarafif]

Even tough i use iphone, for notes i still use the Tab S7. Coz leta be real, samsung notes apps is the best pdf/note taking apps. I wish i can install samsung note apps on ipad mini6, demm samsung didn’t make any small powerfull tablet

[@sonofage]

see, now i can trust an Apple "tech" guy because he or she goes beyond just Apple and try new tech from the other side. I like balanced reviews, it's ok if the reviewer is bias, but I like it when they mention it. There are many things that Android has now that are good but you need time to learn it, likewise the same if anyone is going to Apple's side of things. Personally, I prefer Android but I made sure to give some time to Apple to make sure it's not just a dislike it for the sake of disliking it.

[@ibm30rpg]

It's easy to talk about other people's biases and take the moral high horse when you are biased yourself. Seems to be a theme this age.

[@sonofage]

@@ibm30rpg has it been just this age ? perhaps the internet just exposes it more but I think it's human nature. Look at religion and politics alone..they're practically the same thing. just different "gods" or higher power.

[@presenceofeden2949]

You must try dex mode and make a video

[@ConstantGeekery]

I plan to do so 👍🏻

[@user-pt3kx9gk8s]

S8PLUS screen resolution 1752 x 2800 pixels It means it supports 2k or 4k

[@Bmasta717]

Sounds like you just need to spend more time with samsung products 😅👍 good review

[@elsamuraiguapo]

Biggest problem with iPad is iOS. Too limiting.

[@thomasgood3472]

Not at all.

From the videos I've seen online, Samsung's tablet experience (with pen) far outdoes the way Apple treats their iPad.

[@ezd8888]

Because Samsung have no worries of their laptop market but apple need to make sure ipad dont cross to their macbook market

[@lollymanna]

@@ezd8888 Samsung also makes laptops. That also costs money. Their galaxy book laptops costs money to manufacture. Also, the buith in apps on the galaxy book laptops costs money to develop. The reason samsung can do what they do is their unparalleled economics of scale. People forget that samsung is a massive chaebol.

[@joonlee920]

@@lollymanna For those that don't know what a 'chaebol' is, think CONGLOMERATE; ie. they make things from computer products to appliances to LCDs to hard drives...you get the picture...

From an end user's perspective, I don't care what Samsung is. Their ecosystem looks really complete & realized by now. And I don't mean just the techy stuffs. They have (smart) household appliances too!

[@cccalifornia7206]

Don't forget the "DEX SOFTWARE" that turns this tablet into being able to operate on another screen too!! ENJOY YOUR NEW SAMSUNG S8 TABLET....😃👏👍 I BELIEVE YOU WILL!!💖 Remember the COST DIFFERENCE between APPLE and SAMSUNG.... NOT TO MENTION THE SD memory card slot addition; that APPLE DOES NOT OFFER!! 😉

[@drainmonkeys385]

I’m very likely switching to Samsung.. I like iPad.. I love apple products..I hate apple the company .. but leaving the politics out.. I’m seriously considering going android.. I didn’t like android years ago.. or maybe I just didn’t like the device I was using it on.. idk…. But Samsung has come a long way and I like what I’m seeing

[@sbradyork]

Agreed, Apple the company are POS 👍👍

[@mydelux46]

I changed the ecosystem few months ago have a s23 ultra and the buds pro and now i just ordered the s8 ultra and i dont see a difference to the apple ecosystem apple is just too monoton every year the same design the same shit but samsung tries something else every year and i am very happy with my devices

[@daveblue3733]

I got the ultra model.

[@ConstantGeekery]

👌🏻 nice

[@darwinlaureles]

Majority of people who purchased already have an iphone/macbook of their own. Thats its biggest advantage-the ecosystem. You will buy android tablets and not worry about syncing it with your non-android devices. I still hate the fact that android devices recieve fewer OS updates and shorter conpared to IOS

[@wendywanderluxe6965]

Wow! The Samsung Service is terrible where you are. In the US, the packaging and service is much more premium

[@ConstantGeekery]

I've heard this from a few folks. I think Samsung outsource to a third party in the UK, which is never a great move for maintaining brand reputation.

[@Cruzan9]

I very rarely deal with manufacturers. Your purchasing story is just one annoying example. There are so many more. Whenever possible I deal with retail electronic stores. I simply don't want the headache. Hope to see more videos of your experience soon.

[@andyH_England]

The s-pen is included but not free! If you think it is then that is pretty naive. TBH when I upgraded to the iPad Pro I already had the Apple Pencil from my 2018 iPad so I would have been annoyed if one was included, especially as the price would obviously reflect that ($120 more). So, I would prefer a choice as I do not really use the pen/pencil and if the Tab S8 was $50 less with no pen then I would take that.

[@peteblazar5515]

Aren't S-Pens for Tab S7/S8 different devices(parts)? OT: Lack of AV1 decoder in Snapdragon X1 SoC is shame.

[@ConstantGeekery]

Yes, it may not be technically "free", but let's not get caught up in linguistic pedantry. I'm using parlance which most consumers would relate to and understand, probably without then feeling the need to make insinuations of naivety. (As a regular subscriber, I'm sure you know that I am anything but naïve). Likewise, there's no need to get hung up on a tongue-in-cheek comment directed at a multi-trillion dollar corporation which habitually charges outrageous mark-ups on key accessories. Every Samsung device I've ever owned that supported S-Pen (three tablets and two phones) came with the pen in the box. Some of these are designs specific to the device, and would need to be sold on with that device. Since moving to a standardised design for the tablets, Samsung has continued to provide the S-Pen with the device. When I sell this one on, the new owner will get it with the S-Pen... and if I replace it with a new Galaxy Tab, I'll get a nice new S-Pen to go with it. There are lots of arguments for and against these differing approaches, but that isn't the subject matter of this video. Maybe some fodder for a future podcast?

[@andyH_England]

@@peteblazar5515 The s-pen is the same for Tab S7 and Tab S8. AV1 coming to the SD8G2 so a good reason for many that have the Tab S7 to not upgrade, though I doubt many will as it is basically the same device.

[@andyH_England]

@@ConstantGeekery That is fair enough. If you are selling on, then you will pass the s-pen on as well. My opinion was very subjective as I kept my old iPad Pro for use on the road. I was throwing it out there about “free” s-pen as I see it referred to as that too many times, and of course the “naive” was a generalization rather than addressed to you specifically!

[@sszzt]

@@ConstantGeekery Another benefit is you can buy non-Samsung pens that are fully compatible with the S7&8 tablets. (also much cheaper)

[@tomypower4898]

Answer is...YES!

[@infektdubstep]

the comment about the apple pencil costing extra makes no sense; not everybody needs a pencil, and by charging for it they can make a better product for people who need it and are willing to pay. there are a lot of artists who love the apple pencil

[@ConstantGeekery]

The comment was more about the excessive cost.

[@FrankFurther]

The s-pen is far superior to the apple pencil in design and functionality

[@chigozie424]

Wrong

[@WhiteEvo6]

If Samsung is giving you the pen for “free” you are paying for it. I’d rather the option to buy the pencil like Apple offers, I don’t want one so packaging something I won’t use that I’m likely paying for is a better

[@ConstantGeekery]

I said the S-Pen is “included”. I expect the manufacturing cost to Samsung is less than $10, so I doubt it makes much difference to the overall price. It would be good to have the option to buy without if some people want that, for environmental reasons if nothing else.

[@kwes1]

What? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@michelvondenhoff9673]

Local storage (micro sd) wins over everything for me.

[@saltalmighty1141]

As a former Android tablet user my experience is that Android is mostly used for phones , and most apps that i used just seem to think that the tablet that i used is just a big phone , and it all just looks a bit off , like the android tablets are just an afterthought ? not to mention that every manufacturer has their own Android version , so if you ever go to Sony for example , the layout could be different, sure i could custom rom it , and put my own twist to it , like i love to do so on my main pc which is a Debian-linux machine nowadays .. but meh it's a tablet 😉 it just needs to work . Personally the IPAD is king when it comes to the tablet market ... mainly because Apple handles the ipad like it's own type of device , while an android tablet get treated like a big phone .. which it isn't . I'm neutral on the Apple versus Android/Windows etc debate ... but Google really needs to write a seperate Tablet OS 😊

[@ConstantGeekery]

I agree that Google needs to do a tablet specific version. Samsung have certainly done a good job though, and the experience has come a long way since my last Samsung tablet.

[@hznd7976]

Yes..Have to wait for the android 12L which is specifically for tablet version.

[@sszzt]

Did you completely miss Samsung DeX? Watch some other videos, this Samsung can multitask (even multi-screen) like a desktop OS and exceeds iPadOS in it's standard mode multi-tasking options too - split screens, floating windows, bubbles, etc.. I doubt you will find many major apps today that work well on the iPad size screen, where the Android version hasn't be similarly optimised. Anyway the S8 is effectively the second generation of these flagship level Android tablets, so even more developers will be targeting them going forward. I could never go back to a locked down iOS phone, let alone a tablet size device! What a waste that M1 is in the iPad, so far.

[@zckom]

May I know what was your last Android Tablet?

[@saltalmighty1141]

@@zckom an Asus Zenpad 8, it was good enough , but again after trying an ipad air 3 in 2019 i was like .. yes this is how a tablet should be.. however i might switch back to android someday

[@caiofernandes8944]

me watching this video on my tab s8 and being an ex ipad user

[@diasporadica]

My friend, you can smile a little.. you dont need to sound so serious in your videos.. 😊

[@andyH_England]

The Tab S8 line will be smoother as it is fixed 120Hz (or 60Hz) whereas the iPad is pro motion, so will slow down and speed up in app to save battery. That does give the effect of smoother refresh rates. Not having LTPO on the OLED displays is not a deal breaker for tablets as they have big batteries. Not sure about the Tab S8, but I assume Apple owns most of the patents on LCD pro motion.

[@ConstantGeekery]

According to the settings, the S8 has an adaptive refresh rate. You can switch it to 60Hz for longer battery life.

[@andyH_England]

@@ConstantGeekery Yes, adaptive, not dynamic like the iPad Pro Motion.

[@ConstantGeekery]

@@andyH_England Samsung describe this way on their website: Adaptive - This option will dynamically adjust the screen refresh rate, up to 120Hz. You'll get the smoothness of a high refresh when you need it, and better battery life for less demanding situations.

[@andyH_England]

@@ConstantGeekery Yes, I saw another review where they had the FPS counter up and it seems that it is software related, certain apps will run at 60Hz and some at 120Hz. But never saw it drop below 60Hz or dynamically adjust in app as it will with LTPO 2.0, on say the S22U.

[@_Digitalguy]

The S8 is not OLED and is the only device that has true adaptive refresh. Same for the S7, while the S7+ did not have adaptive refresh. I don't know about the S8 ultra since I have not received it yet

[@X862go]

the ultra !!!!!