Samsung Q80A vs Sony X90J - Mid-Range Showdown

[@RTINGSdotcom]

A few people have found our spider charts a bit confusing, so just to clarify - the scores on the spider charts are for the corresponding usage rating (eg. TV Shows, Movies, etc), not for a specific test.

[@dejan110782]

You did not compare sound, thats also win for Sony, easy.

[@nabagadget5743]

Hey I was looking at these two TVs and the u7g, which wld b best for ps5 or Netflix overall?

[@jevan987]

I like your video..very informative

[@flow685]

Would love to see the Hisense U8G against the X 90J. Now for $1300 at the 65” is a better deal than Sony. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@MDonovan]

@@flow685 TCL is a good deal too

[@xevad7288]

I just got myself the Sony X90J 55” and am truly happy with my purchase. Using it mostly for watching movies and PS5 gaming.

[@jonathanbellina6504]

Same

[@TheHailstorm77]

I’m buying the COSTCO X90CJ 75 inch that automatically comes a whopping total of 5 year warranty. Costco tend to change the model so you can’t exchange or price match. I hate that. How we X90CJ is same model as X90J. Costco is king of selling TVs at very good price and warranty full coverage is a plus!

[@konrad6827]

I'm thinking about this tv for ps5 i have Samsung nu8042 i hope quality is better than this

[@goodarzian1349]

By far the best TV comparison I've ever seen on KZbin. Very detailed,technical and accurate!

[@DewittOralee]

"We don't think anybody will decide on one of these tvs because of their stands." Lol y'all have clearly never worked home theater in a Best Buy.

[@toffonardi7037]

my problem is the stand limitation so samsung would be better, but generally i DON'T LIKE SAMSUNG

[@JustxLiving909]

@@toffonardi7037 hisense U8G for best mid tier

[@toffonardi7037]

@@JustxLiving909 but doesn't have 50" version

[@TheRedsox809]

@@toffonardi7037 the q80 is available in a 50 inch ,they currently are no stock for them looks like June 10th is the release date for them.

[@toffonardi7037]

@@TheRedsox809 yeah q80 has, I was talking about hisense u8g

[@Nicnic1447]

Using standardized testbenches to compare TVs is the way to go. RTINGS has become a benchmark for tech reviews. Keep up the great work guys! 👍

[@Drizay1221]

Hdtvtest is the benchmark

[@YavNe]

@@Drizay1221 Nah. They don't have a site that shows you TV info. Stop talking bs. Nobody cares about HDTVTest. 🤣

[@detroittrickster3327]

@@YavNe more importantly no-one cares about you

[@cadmanuk_aw]

Just bought the Sony after having an LG OLED, (terrible burn-in) and I must say the Sony is superb. Also wanted to give a shout out to this young guy, Brandon, doing the comparison review - clear and concise with excellent explanation of each aspect tested. Great work!

[@arjanaulakh2329]

@andy what LG OLED did you have? I’m thinking about getting the C1 but am worried about the natural light coming into the room.

[@cadmanuk_aw]

@@arjanaulakh2329 I had the B7 55inch. Looked great to start with but after less than two years terrible burn in plus discoloration on the middle of the screen (which can't be due to any static image) and even a clear Rectangle in the middle that's slightly different tone (I believe LG will fix that particular issue with a firmware upgrade. Sony all the way for me now.

[@guillaumemarais9004]

@@cadmanuk_aw hello you to buy the x90j are you satisfied with the paraport product? has your lg oled not too much flowering? and beautiful image?

[@cadmanuk_aw]

@@guillaumemarais9004 not sure I understand your question. I'm very happy with the Sony

[@guillaumemarais9004]

@@cadmanuk_aw excuse me, I am French. I wanted to know if you are happy with your xr90j and that the colors were beautiful on the tv? and good quality contrasts

[@Ajax-322]

it's crazy how the X90J can do such great local dimming with so few zones

[@tamalmukherjee9793]

Because it's a Sony...

[@MrRaitzi]

Their dimming is only very mild. Worth only 1000:1 contrast. Native contrast is high so it still looks good mostly.

[@andreydavydov6417]

@@tamalmukherjee9793 Because it's VA vs IPS

[@tamalmukherjee9793]

@@andreydavydov6417 no bro because Sony has expertise in making audio visual that's why their ips panel also makes better contrast as compare to others...

[@funguy8444]

@@tamalmukherjee9793 LOLOLOL such a Sony fanboy and before you say I'm a Samsung fanboy, I hate Samsung

[@biber9979]

Don't care about wide viewing angles. I am always directly in front of the tv...and other guests at my place as well(10 degrees here and there). So for me Sony all the way

[@mrb2917]

Not to mention the viewing angle test they show, the Sony looks fine, the Samsung gets darker and darker the further you get to the side, I don't understand how that's better.

[@parkerbohnn]

I have friends so of course I'll buy the tv with the ADS or IPS panel.

[@anthonygoldman1479]

I did not see this review till today but last week purchased X90J. In this review it may seem the 2 sets seems closely matched but after comparing the tv's myself before my purchase, the Sony X90J has far superior picture quality to all the rest. You say the viewing angle makes the Sammy better as a PC monitor, I do not agree with that, and this is 100% of my use case. I sit right close and better picture quality is a much bigger factor than the viewing angle of VA, for me. In store I just put the same content on both and try and adjust the picture till I'm happy and the X90J was a no brainer for me. Why would I game at 1440p? The RTX 3080 smashes out over 100FPS on this at 4K and its just beautiful thing. Have a great time ya'll with whatever set you choose ! The RTings for each use case is important because people do use these things differently.

[@guillaumemarais9004]

hello you are satisfied with the x90j I hesitate to buy it in front of the mini led of the qn90A and the speakers do the trick? thank you

[@xboxgamerz22]

@@guillaumemarais9004 me too

[@loki76]

Seriously this isn't even a competition. The X90J is better in every single aspect. Come on Rtings... Starting to lose faith in you guys. No the QN80A isn't better at anything. Nothing matters if it has THAT shitty contrast ratio and black uniformity. The color volume makes up for the lack of color gamut that you see. But in the end it's not just about static numbers. It's about practical image quality. The X90J is simple way better.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

For the purposes of our scale, we consider a .5 difference in score to be significant. When looking at the Mixed Usage score difference of .4 between the two TVs, you're right that the X90J is the better TV overall! If you've got any feedback about our scores or how we weigh certain aspects, please let us know and we will make sure the Test Dev team sees it! :)

[@RTINGSdotcom]

@Ronald Trump Keep an eye out for our review on the Hisense U8G! The early results look fairly promising :)

[@edhianba]

@Ronald Trump don’t buy IPS panel tv VA panel is better picture quality

[@eman1549]

@Ronald Trump id get the nono 90 open box with a warranty. I saw a 75 in for 899 yesterday at best buy that was a display. Although I dont like the Nano I like the 90 at that price The display is gorgeous and would look beautiful in a living room. I just dont like the black levels

[@loki76]

@Ronald Trump Yes they are important. Some of the new and expensive Qned from LG with MiniLED might help if they still use IPS panel to make the blacks much better. But IPS panels are not good for contrast which is important. They have wider viewing angles but that can be had on VA panels as well when they do optical layers on them. The X90J should be 1200 for 55".. It's a good TV. It is certainly WAY WAY better than LG Nano. That is a guarantee.

[@MrDutch1e]

The better contrast is so much more of a drastic difference than any of the other small differences.

[@mrbungle589]

Samsung should be embarrassed, there are 5 and 6 hundred dollar tvs that have better uniformity and definitely better contrast.

[@lewisevander]

And which TVs are those?

[@mrbungle589]

@@lewisevander Hisense h8g,tcl 5 series,Vizio m series,Sony X800. IPS panels are trash and only decent during the day. I've heard they can make a solid monitor but that's it.

[@lewisevander]

@@mrbungle589 OK thanks. Yes even I hate IPS panels due to their low contrast. It's not fun to watch. Yes the only benefit they have is better viewing angles.

[@SJ-cl4wq]

@@lewisevander Viewing angles are one of the few reason LG is winning against Samsung in my country in budget range.

[@mattjones3257]

I feel like Samsung put IPS/ADS panels in the Q line so they would look worse next to the new (and more expensive) miniLED QN models. Upsell strategy. Q80T with conventional FALD scored almost the same as the midtier QN series.

[@Yuspliff]

As a casual gamer / occasional movie watcher it looks like the X90J is perfect for me

[@loitersquadX]

How

[@TonyLeviosa]

@@loitersquadX much better blacks, and color grading for watching movies.

[@hwanniggles187]

@@TonyLeviosa and as a casual gamer, he doesnt have to worry about fast reaction times to anything competitive where good latency is vital and just enjoy a nice adventure with gorgeous visuals

[@gregknies7944]

Damn it Sony release the X95J so we can see it vs the X90J

[@Artorias.2210]

Thank you very much. I am planning to buy a TV and was considering to buy one of these but didn't know the differences between them clearly before watching this video. This really helped a lot!

[@jayyyyyyyy24]

which one you pick?

[@user-pn2rf2ix4m]

@@jayyyyyyyy24 smh. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JFrenchRennier]

I was in real life comparing exactly these 2 TV's for purchase. I already have a Sony SS which is why I wasn't looking at the X95J. I'm not a gamer, the ManCave is dark & straight on viewing angle. For this reasoning the Sony X90J was perfect for me & Thank You for a very good job of reviewing. I purchased the TV & am expecting delivery within a week.

[@andre26261095]

Decided to upgrade from SAMSUNG 55-Inch Class Crystal UHD TU-8000 Series to the Q80A 65-inch with the HW-Q600A sound bar set up very happy with my purchase!

[@arpanroy9048]

Please talk more about picture processing and picture upscaling capabilities of tvs.

[@foxtrap614tango8]

Rtings needs to improve there review process. Hisense, TCL and Vizio have terrible processing. Yet Rtings has there units ranked very high. Only respectable KZbin reviewer is HDTVTEST.

[@mrb2917]

Also the ability to run Kodi and how the TV handles USB stick playback of H.265, x264, etc etc

[@Delta-pantages]

A concise and informative review Brandon, thank you! The Sony wins for me. I like the new video format too!

[@fredintoronto]

Sony appears superior to the Samsung and a clear choice if you sit in front of your TV. Looking forward to the X95J release.

[@OctZ2001]

I chose between Samsung Q8 vs Sony X91j I with the Sony. The blacks are amazing the colors do pop (not as bright tho). But the picture on the Sony looks better. It’s amazing out the box.

[@AtlanticCanadianGamer]

Loving my x90j. Been feeling great playing my Series X on it. Also if you bought it at Costco Canada this past month it went down in price so make sure you get your price adjustment. I got a few hundred back this week.

[@harshitrakhiani8833]

Bro are they giving vrr and allm on 90j?

[@AtlanticCanadianGamer]

@@harshitrakhiani8833 VRR not yet but I strongly believe it's Sony holding it back at this moment because the PlayStation doesn't support it yet. It will come... Eventually

[@harshitrakhiani8833]

@@AtlanticCanadianGamer bro please recommend... should I purchase 55X9000H or wait for 55X90J to launch??? Please recommend me..

[@AtlanticCanadianGamer]

@@harshitrakhiani8833 do you do 4k120? The x90j fixes any issues the x900h had. But I recommend going to rtings website and doing a comparison of both. The x90j tends to beat it in most if not all areas.

[@harshitrakhiani8833]

@@AtlanticCanadianGamer u have purchased x90j ...right?

[@antonpaco]

Two high-performance TVs, but having to choose I would not even think about it for a second, in the tv world Sony is number one. My point of view is those who disagree never had a Sony in their life. Again, that's my opinion.

[@Sblac12]

I did and they duped me with the Bravia years ago and would not honor their know n defect. This TV was very expensive and died after approx. 5 years

[@mrdash5213]

This is the Best Side by side comparison 👍

[@loki76]

This was the dumbest shit I've ever seen.. Their logic is so flawed it made me vomit.. Their "categories" makes no f**king sense when the Base important aspects are ignored.. Am I the only one that saw how bad the contrast was on QN80A and how bad the black uniformity is.. Literally clouding. Why would ANYONE ignore those aspects when for example choosing a PC monitor between them? And go "hurr durr, the Samsung as 5ms faster input lag", which isn't noticeable. They claim better viewing angles. First off More of a SHIT picture doesn't make it better. Second you DO NOT sit closer than 5-6 feet with a TV that big. You will get neck problems and eye issues. So viewing angles head on will not matter. I mean SERIOUSLY did you SEE the black uniformity and local dimming and DSE? Why the HELL would anyone pick that for a PC monitor.. 1440P doesn't matter when games have resolution scaling. You would always keep your PC monitor AT NATIVE resolution or it will be a blurry mess. These guys are clueless. DSE would also be bad on a monitor with a lot of white screens/pages. Low contrast ratio would be worse for legibility of text and overall Picture IQ..

[@Essydyk]

It really isn't - the Samsung can't even do decent blacks which is the starting point of any "professional" reviews. This head to head vastly overplays the Samsung for no apparent reason.

[@patrickperron8598]

Near perfect comparison. Love the entire format.

[@erdemkucukal8995]

I was considering buying a Samsung 80A, but after this review, I will go with the Sony X90J. I will edit this comment with a review later.

[@Jixx45]

Any news ?

[@adambudgen8085]

Love my Sony x90j can't wait to get the PS5 the brightness is awesome and sound....

[@Karmakabob]

How does non-4k content look on it? It's crazy to me that no 4k TV reviews ever mention how regular old TV channels will look on a set.

[@mrb2917]

@@Karmakabob why would anyone watch regular tv anymore. who cares how it looks. 15min of commercials for a 22min show, they can keep it. download everything in 1080p or 4k and stream everything else.

[@xuxon24]

Lack of Dolby vision is a huge setback for Samsung imo.

[@cliffordcowie93]

I recently bought the Samsung 65inch Samsung Q80A,i,m surprised how good the Samsung is ,after 50 years of buying exclusively Panasonic i wasn,t expecting much to be honest,hdr is fantastic.

[@cliffordcowie93]

Today i am taking deliveryvof the Samsung Q90A 65inch Neo Qled for the living room,was i was impressed when i saw one working ,fantastic colours and black is amazing

[@winwincsk]

Great comparison video 👍 This new format is easy to understand and crisp. One suggestion though. You might consider declaring the absolute winner just on the basis of picture quality. Lastly, would like to thank Rtings and Brandon for compiling and presenting the video

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hey! We're glad you liked it and we hear you loud and clear! We will pass your suggestion on to the team for future videos!

[@michaeldavis6550]

@@RTINGSdotcom Yes what you guys thinks a better choice when comparing models in the end would be helpful. I kinda understand why you don't tho. Because everybody's taste & use is different & your end result might be different then others. That would kinda make people start making coments like they don't know what their taking about if they disagree so in the end I understand why you Don't. Thank you for you efforts & quality videos.

[@cerrahpasalihal-it1983]

Thanks for the review. I will definitely get a Sony X90J.

[@MarcoGamer640Productions2012]

I work at best buy and there are a LOT of people that make tv purchases based on a center stand vs legs.

[@debragines4897]

I'm one of those people! 🤗

[@Whyred100]

Great review and I like the new explanation model/format! It seems methodical and easy to understand 👍.

[@Android.Paranormal]

The Sony X90J destroys the Q80A.

[@james7751]

sony its always bout quality...

[@andreydavydov6417]

I would say VA panel destroys IPS

[@petrolhead9123]

@@andreydavydov6417 So? Your clarification doesn’t make any sense, LOL. Not a Sony’s fault if Scamsung decided to equip a 1400$ TV with a crappy IPS panel. The panel type is the most important thing in a TV. Is like you wouldn’t say that a Ferrari destroys a Hyundai, but you would say the 800 HP V12 destroys 150 HP L4. WTF?

[@yordan826]

@@petrolhead9123 sure when it comes to performance the Ferrari is obviously more powerful but Hyundai is much more reliable, what I'm trying to say is there is always pros and cons with everything. However I do agree with you Sony is much better than Samsung especially for picture quality.

[@mattjones3257]

@@petrolhead9123 Q80T was a decent TV. Q80A isn't. Seems like Samsung made a decision to force people to move up to their QN MiniLED series if they want something decent. Agree it's a garbage move, but feel like they're doing it to make the MiniLEDs look clearly better side by side.

[@ck6180]

I was hoping to have more specs and comparisons regarding processors and OS reliability. Also, it would be interesting to know what their retail return rates are, if that info could be obtained.

[@WhiskeyGroove]

I can't believe the Sony can't offer VRR. But thankfully they check all the other gaming boxes. Overall picture quality will always be the first priority for me.

[@hwanniggles187]

What about now? I heard an update came to where it adds VRR

[@Anthonydavis-jq2hd]

The new update Has Vrr

[@contidozack]

We need more comparison videos like this by RTING

[@burd7455]

Damn, Samsung's game mode looks awful.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

Samsung TVs loses alot of image quality in gaming mode, to keep the latency down.

[@chayden3667]

Thanks for the physical visual/comparison. Had a salesman try and get me on the Q80A but after seeing this review and doing my research, I will stick with getting the X90J because of the contrast ratio and my main usage, movies and HDR.

[@cliffordcowie93]

Q80A is a fantastic tv ,hdr is really good ,don,t pay any attention to those that think Oled is best,it may be until it needs a new screen.For 50 years i bought nothing but Panasonic tv ,was very apprehensive ,i,m glad i did by a Samsung ,the hdr is a lot better than my Panasonic.I just sold my Panasonic with DV and got the Samsung Q90A 65inch Neo Qled.

[@MrTheman18]

Same'

[@othman0077]

Wow 👏🏻, one of the best comparison, and best video on the channel thank you!

[@rhtr.]

Great video. This year Samsung tvs is trash. Sony far from perfect (no VRR is a joke) but at least with good contrast and colors.

[@skiran69]

Vrr isn't on ps5 yet. That's why.

[@Kapono5150]

Im just Dying to see Rting's LG G1 review. I check it everyday. I guess they are still testing it !

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Actually, we just managed to buy one last week! We're waiting for it to arrive at the office now :)

[@Ajax-322]

screw it, I'm getting the X90J

[@arvindkaveripatti1]

Great review with a structured comparison. Helped me while I'm right in the middle of comparing the models to buy. Appreciate it 👍

[@zuti071]

Huge FAIL by RTINGS. In 21min long video you couldn't say anything about most ELEMENTARY par of any tv review... UPSCALING normal SD/HD content from cable box or antenna. As i know more than half of the PLANET still primarily watch normal tv channels on their tv's and you talk for 2min about using it as PC Monitor...WTF. Gaming and streaming apps are just addition to be able to use full potential of modern 4K tv's and i perfectly understand that. I use only KZbin on my tv and since i have 161 mostly HD channels on my cable box i don't feel the need to pay extra for Netflix or Disney+ to watch content in Dolby Vision, HDR, HDR+ and so on. And to be clear, i respect all that you do for this kind of reviews. But if you didn't test something elementary like upscaling and say few words about it... is fail that must be addressed.

[@Stecbine]

Cable TV & Antenna??? lol everyone streams now. However I agree upscaling should still be part of the review.

[@JS-fc7hc]

got rid of the cable channels to pay the same bill but with double internet speed for streaming apps im just a crazy millenial

[@IvanVelezVlogs]

Can y'all bring back the dancing/pointing and making funny faces in between the transitions? 😭😆

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Noted! 🕺👈👇👉

[@TAllen586]

Wow thank you for doing this video. Have been absolutely torn between which one to get.

[@boscoliaw5702]

X90J has better overall picture quality because of VA panel vs ADS (except 85' QN85A).

[@loitersquadX]

How is the input lag

[@1104kdd]

We have a Q80A 85" on display at my store and it's VA screen is obviously way better - though poor off axis. Samsungs in built demo us awful for the videophile though - wildly blue shifted and over saturated. Sony's 2021 demo on the x90 is far superior.

[@boscoliaw5702]

@@1104kdd Is there only 85' of Q80A is VA panel?

[@user-bw6sw6uu3r]

@@boscoliaw5702 50in too I think

[@user-vs9dy5sq1j]

Still Samsung is the best , look fireworks is laggy in X90J , local dimming is bright because the display system is bright , unlike X90J which is dark always

[@joepineapples7774]

Will you be testing the VA panel versions of the Q80A?. Would really like to see the difference it makes in a direct comparison, especially with the firework twirling video.

[@minogoda]

Check the Q80T that was a va panel

[@eliasrossios891]

Great video, very helpful. Love the new format, makes it easier to choose.

[@budthecyborg4575]

Moving to IPS was a huge mistake for Samsung. I hope this is the only year that they ever sell a non-VA QLED.

[@adriancarter2863]

In the UK 🇬🇧, the Samsung Q80A 50” and 85” tv’s still use VA panels. The Samsung 50” Q80A QLED VA panel is rated at 3600, whereas the Sony 50” X90J OLED VA panel is rated at 5600,, almost double the rate of the Samsung. Despite this, the complete lack of VRR within the Sony product (and the common perception that Sony have been basically lying to their customers re: VRR developments), caused me to buy the Samsung product over the Sony here in the UK 🇬🇧. Had I been living in the USA 🇺🇸, because the US rating of the Samsung tv is so poor (1449 against Sony’s 5600), and the Sony product lacks any form of VRR, I would have bought neither and gone for the LG, taking the Bucks 💵 I would have saved to buy a decent Sound Bar.

[@kapitangleba9814]

@@adriancarter2863 In Europe, all Q80A have a VA panel regardless of size.

[@parkerbohnn]

VA = Shit Any sane person would buy an IPS or ADS panel.

[@BeefyTime1]

Bought the Samsung last month. The Q70. Worked great, for 13 days. Woke up on day 14 with 6 red dots near the bottom. Coming from those red dots were a vertical white line and and horizontal white line. Thankfully I was within the 15 day return period. Got the Sony instead.

[@yamisniper]

had my 85 inch sony tv for 8 months x900h i have a dea pixels and sony wont warrenty it never had dead pixels on a samsung

[@gembal]

@@yamisniper I have the same Sony model 10 pixels stucks out of the box! Return the tv

[@yamisniper]

@@gembal they wouldn't let me lol

[@JamieR]

@@yamisniper Not sure if the TV has it, but I'd assume it; did you try to run the picture clean software? It might help solve it.

[@yamisniper]

@@JamieR o duno what was going on I fixed it tho

[@stunna2848]

the q80a looks like a tcl 5 series from 2018 🤣

[@KaneRobot]

Can't justify either of these. Sony has been stringing people along with VRR for over a year now, and Samsung's asinine decision to continue to not support Dolby Vision are both dealbreakers for someone playing on a Series X.

[@marinmijatovic]

Gaming on the QN90A is very very good even without DV

[@xboxgamerz22]

Really

[@rockybukus]

extremely clear definitions. Well done!

[@josephdubiel7129]

You did a nice job with this review. I just happened to be at the store today making comparisons. My main use would be sports . While I appreciate the wider viewing angle on the Samsung the dirty screen effect concerns me. I watched the Samsung when an NFL game was on. Beautiful picture indeed. I would suspect the dirty screen effect might show up more during a hockey game but there was no sign of it on football. By the same token the Sony also looked very good on the Football game. Seeing these TVs in person is big. I suspect the Sony might have an edge in the reliability department. Too many choices out there lol. Thank you for this review.

[@NovaAgency]

Great Review, I was about to buy the samsung Q80A but I'm definitely leaning towards the sony x90j after seeing this review! P.S. Never listen to a Bestbuy salesman!

[@DewittOralee]

Couple honest criticisms here. With how long 4K TVs have been out, it's time that you have a rating for upscaling. The biggest part of Sony's R&D is upscaling. Watching a 720p sports broadcast looks better on Sony TVs every single time compared to equally priced Samsungs. Also, picking VRR support as important for gaming but not picking Dolby Vision as important for HDR Movies is an unfair handicap on the Sony. Working in the industry, I would say Dolby Vision is just as (if not, more) important for HDR as VRR is for gaming.

[@winwincsk]

Agree with you

[@hoanghieuofficial5835]

Thank you so much for this comparison. I decide to get X90J. So much thankful from Viet Nam 🇻🇳

[@VulturePilot]

Both are overpriced as hell and in Samsung’s case a downgrade from last year

[@cwdrock]

Prices from both should drop through the year. We haven't even received all the new models and they always go full retail the first 30 days after they hit the stores. We have had the A90J 65 for a couple of months now and it has been on sale for 3799.00 for a week or so. I just hope we get a X90J 100" for a demo model!

[@trippplefive]

so the scamsung is more overpriced?

[@eman1549]

Yep I wouldn't buy either at the current price but if I had to obviously it would be the Sony. That Q80 is a ripoff

[@damian4467]

@@cwdrock I’ve been at bestbuy and see the Samsung q80a is 1200 do u think the price will drop anytime soon for that and should I wait choosing between either x90j or q80a but don’t know if either prices are fair

[@cwdrock]

@@damian4467 prices are going up across the board. You may want to wait until October to see if there are any pre-holiday sales but I don't anticipate prices coming down anytime soon unfortunately. That being said the X90j with the cognitive xr processor is a leap forward in performance unlike the Q80.

[@RBMasih]

Great comparison video! Question? Which TV has better sound? Particularly when someone has no sound bar? Thank you!

[@loki76]

Imagine giving a better score to QN80A with more DSE which is the most important factor when watching sports. Sigh.. These guys are so stuck on numbers they lost the plot of actual viewing quality.. So all of a sudden a contrast ration basically 5X better on X90J has no factor in watching sports? Black uniformity doesn't matter? Same shit seeing you giving 900H and X90J the same overall score when X90J beats the 900H in almost all categories and have fixed the 4K 120Hz blur. What is WRONG with you people at Rtings?

[@Picb1111]

Great review, my main usage is movies, sports, and gaming so I’m still stuck on what to chose, Would prefer the X90j but with VRR,

[@smattt]

How can you determine which panel your TV has? I ordered a Q75Q8BA from CostCo and have read conflicting theories on that naming convention. Some say that the "BA" is the Q80T from 2020 that has been repackaged as a 2021, while others disagree. I'm hoping to get the 2020 model as that has the VA panel but I can't seem to figure out where to look.

[@jollama]

Mid range TVs from the name brands at least are more disappointing year after year

[@MDonovan]

Depends on the price I guess

[@jollama]

@@MDonovan Uhh no, they literally have been getting worse every year, compare Sony’s X930E to their current X90J for example, or Samsung’s MU8000 to their current AU8000 and so on

[@MDonovan]

@@jollama I think mid price was X900H or X950H tho.

[@MDonovan]

@@jollama but I see what you mean on Samsung 8000 every year. , they just change the name and the remote

[@jollama]

@@MDonovan You can even check Rting’s website to compare prior models to current models to see the numbers for yourself

[@2ZH]

Would like to see your guys input on the u8g =)

[@RTINGSdotcom]

We just posted our early access results for our Insiders yesterday! The written review will be available next week and the video review in the coming weeks :)

[@2ZH]

@@RTINGSdotcom awesome! I'm excited to see/ read them both! Thank you!

[@antoniomargallo5317]

It seems the X90J is even better than this year's Sony. I'm getting one, the price is down quite a bit, and it's still the best mid-range TV. I had about an hour crash-course with a TV tech guy, side by side, just turning the TVs on with the white logos on the black background, you can see the very little bleaching on the Sony, in comparison to the Samsung and LG. It was a clear indicator of what was to come. The colors are more true in the Sony, nothing is crushed, you see details on the shadows the other's can't even display. And the cherry on top, the TV tech guy had a pen with several videos, some with the crappiest frame rate and resolution. The Sony processing engine was a sight to behold, none of the other TVs was able to deal with that awfull sample video, it was a video from a moving car filming the sidewalk, the Sony did some witchcraft and suddenly you could see the store's names and the people's faces. It's all about what frames the TV inserts in between the original frames. Testing then side by side was an eye opener, I know which one I'll be taking home.

[@antoniomargallo5317]

I just got an X90J for 700 euros. You know it's serious when you go through the menus and see the IMAX settings. This TV is a beast, the contrast and the deep blacks, unmatchable. I recall a review on which the guy stated that he tried his favourite movie on the Sony, and for the first time he saw something that was hidding in the shadows, it wasn't relevant to the movie, but he felt like he was "robbed" of something because he never saw it in the previous viewings. You can see it on this video, can you notice the weeds growing on the left train track, or the railing on that small building on the left? Better details in shadows and deeper blacks, both things are done amazingly because they don't even interfere with one another, it's really good.

[@lukapaunov]

What the dof betwen x90j and x93j?

[@user-fc9zu8rj7c]

@@lukapaunov 93 has a built-in mic for voice controll and has a different stand (wider).

[@greyfoxindy]

Your sports summary is so nonsensical. Clearly a TV with better motion handling is better for sports. Not wide viewing angles or glare. You should change this criteria. Viewing angles are situational and not a MUST for sports. Clarity, detail, motion are requirements. The Sony is clearly a better sports TV. If you have no need for watching the TV at an angle clearly the Sony was a better choice. X-motion Clarity is amazing. No loss of brightness too and less DSE is essential for sport.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hey! First of all, we really appreciate your feedback and we passed it along to the Test Dev team to consider making adjustments! If we could, we'd like to explain a little about our thinking on this though too. The usage scores are made up to try and encapsulate the broadest requirements possible for certain uses. Viewing angles actually only account for 11% of the total score for Sports, while Response Time is 21%. This is because, in many cases (but not all), watching sports is a social event where more people will be watching at different angles. Ultimately, we always want our users to look even further beyond our scores to make sure they're considering the things relevant to them! If viewing angles aren't important to you, the X90J would likely be a better option for you! We appreciate any feedback you have though on how we can do better and we pass all suggestions on to the appropriate teams! So thanks again and please let us know if you have more feedback :)

[@greyfoxindy]

@@RTINGSdotcom thanks for responding, but yes I do think you should review your criteria selections. Most of what I said above can apply to TV Shows too. I think your current criteria for each category is too subjective. I know I'd much rather have picture quality, clarity, colour accuracy, motion, for MOST of the categories. Viewing angles, glare should be considered their own separate category and not integrated into TV shows, movies and sports. Because in forward viewing scenario the sony wins all three. The same could be said for wide viewing movies, not everyone watches movies head on... In which case, by your logic, the Sony loses. See my point? It's fair to state the viewing angles and glare of course, but should be mentioned at the end as a possibility of upside/downside which can affect all categories dependant on your situations. As for pc monitor... Again I think this is just odd... Who buys a 55+ inch TV for pc monitor use? Very small percentage. Again, you'll likely be head on when watching a pc monitor, why viewing angles are even brought up here is just odd to me, it's not like the Sony's viewing angles are bad at a head movement (typical pc monitor use). The Sony's angles are just slightly worse off when quite far off axis. Minor head movements aren't bad. The contrast is excellent, thus more shades of colour, also important for monitor use, as well as colour accuracy. Lastly on the topic of gaming I think you put too much emphasis on next gen gaming features, not everyone is a hardcore gamer... VRR is not essential for gaming. Rather a bonus. The PS5 doesn't even HAVE VRR enabled yet. When it does, the TVs will add it too no doubt. But needless to say 4K120 is perfectly fine on its own without VRR which the TV current supports fine. You make it seem like the creator of PlayStation aren't capable for gaming lol.

[@Ricky_MckeeGT]

How come I never see you guys review Panasonic television’s. For me they have some of the best picture quality out there.

[@joepineapples7774]

Not available in Canada so they don't review them.

[@Ricky_MckeeGT]

@@joepineapples7774 wow really didn’t know that. Thanks.

[@winwincsk]

@@Ricky_MckeeGT Yes. Panasonic makes some good TVs. Sad it may seem, I have a feeling that the brand might be sold to some Chinese company..

[@megacap55]

Yeah or even Philips TV also

[@Ricky_MckeeGT]

@@megacap55 yeah Phillips and Panasonic have some good looking TVs coming soon.

[@RomeoSeeThis]

How does it compares with XH950 will it worth going for one now as we could enjoy discounted pricing for it

[@digitalbestdealgujarat4237]

Great post!! Thanks for sharing this with us. Keep up!

[@CarlosHernandez-rz9nz]

I recently purchased the Q80A and I’m trying to decide where to return it. And exchange it for the QN85A that was sold out when I purchased the Q80A. But has recently come back in stock is it worth going through the trouble? Is there a big difference between these 2 models?

[@MalcolmOSB]

"we do not think anybody will make a decision based on the size of the stand" you are wrong, I did, I need a TV that fit on my TV unit and the screens with legs on the outer edge would not work. Wall mounting would not work for me due to my living room layout.

[@wess3026]

Same issue for me. Furthermore I have to rotate the TV on the entertainment center. I'm looking at an aftermarket VESA rotating stand as a fix. Sony "deficiency" in this regard disappears.

[@Lortz2610]

Thank you for the great video. Watching this in March 2022 and I want to replace my almost 10 year old LG 47LM615S, I assume that both TVs will be a huge improvement over what I have now. I just wonder how relevant Dolby Vision support really is compared to HDR10 and HDR10+ ... Right now my old, trustworthy LG has none of all those features, it even is edge-lit. For someone with the following use-case, does anyone of you have a suggestion what to choose, maybe even a completely different brand? 30% TV, 40% streaming content (Netflix, Prime), 20% Gaming, 10% Sports. Console right now is Xbox One X, but will be upgraded to Series X this year and sooner or later there will also be a PS5. Not playing competetively, just for fun, maybe coop multiplayer. Never used the game mode on my old LG anyways. Also, what can be said about the support of the software? I tend to keep my TV for a long time and don't want to be forced into buying a set-top box after 3 years just because Tizen or Google TV or whatever system is being dumped by its company. This is somewhat looking into the crystal ball, but how did companies handle this in the past? My old LG is basically just a big screen without any smart functions. I can do everything via the Xbox, but having the apps natively in the TV is nice.

[@luizfigobr]

Got the q80a. Pretty happy so far.

[@parkerbohnn]

Thats what I bought so I could get the ADS panel because I sometimes sleep on the couch which is at an angle to the tv.

[@VinodKumar-yp2mp]

Thank u for an excellent comparison .

[@slakr2386]

Nice review 👍

[@drichcymru]

Good comparison of two compromised TV's. I still believe (and will keep saying so) that you should be offering a more critical opinion of the performance of all the models you review. In short, your too nice! It's clear to me that neither of these models offer enough value for money compared to last years efforts.

[@chingchilla6777]

i like the new video format. Hope to see the new U8G review soon, come on boys

[@RTINGSdotcom]

We just posted the full review today! www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/u8g The video review is coming ASAP though too :)

[@chingchilla6777]

@@RTINGSdotcom very nice review, it looks like a slightly tweaked h9g with the included gaming stuff that was missing lol other then that it’s damn near identical

[@mayssm]

Just bought the X90J (I usually buy Samsung) but it was on sale for $1299 with 10% cash back on Amazon, so it's hard to pass up.

[@majupaulthomas]

What size ? 65 inch

[@mayssm]

@@majupaulthomas Yup.

[@HasNiHassaan]

How do you like it so far?

[@magnaig]

What is the best 4K LED TV that has Dolby Vision? Is it upcoming Sony X95J? Money is not the issue, so do not care for the best value, just want the best. OLED is good, I have CX in a bedroom. Now need a LED TV for the living room.

[@cwdrock]

The new XR processor is AMAZING in the A90j! Plus it will be available in an 83" this year.

[@bherbo3943]

You might as well and get last years Z8H. It’s 8K and it’s close enough in price with the recent price drop to everything Other premium LED set coming out this year.

[@loki76]

@@cwdrock He said "LED"...

[@loki76]

@@bherbo3943 Does the Z8H have HDMI 2.1 and 4K 120Hz? That is a factor. Granted for just movies it would be fantastic. Also if money is not an issue I would say he should go for the Sony Z9J this year. Yes it's 8K but it will blow anything away.

[@bherbo3943]

@@loki76 yeah you’re right the Z9J. If money really isn’t an issue then that’s really the way to go lmao. But yeah the Z8H has HMDI 2.1 but unfortunately only for 1 port. And I’m 99% sure it’s 120hz.

[@rrassoc]

It occurs to me that a 75" display is likely to have fewer viewers from wide angles. Nor would people be sitting close while using it as a pc monitor.

[@user-jt9tf7jn3d]

People do make tv purchase based on size of tv stands. I'm in that dilemma right now. The reason is if you buy bigger size 📺 than what you had , you don't have to get bigger tv table .

[@the7thnumber]

I wish you would show actual video game footage using the x90j and x950h side by side. Im torn between both tvs. I mostly care about picture quality, contrast, local dimming, blooming, and washed out looking colors.

[@kcatarino]

No hdmi 2.1 in the 950

[@TheHailstorm77]

SONY has finally stepped up the plate and dominated 2021 towards end of year. LG was crushing with the C1 and G1 series for OLED. However, since both Samsung and Sony have worked together back again to make the chipset and display panel, SONY BRAVIA AJ90 has beaten LG’s C1 and G1 OLED. Panasonic LZ2000 OLED is still king but is only available in Europe and Asia. Very sad.

[@jesuscolon1373]

I found the 55" Q80A at 750$ or 550£, it si a good purchase for that price?

[@5DollarHoller]

There are literally no currently released 2021 Samsungs worth buying other than the QN90A. And even the QN90A has a lot of DSE issues, so the quality control may be worth taking the risk with the Hisense U8G

[@husnizaim4518]

What is DSE?

[@5DollarHoller]

@@husnizaim4518 Dirty Screen Effect. Essentially a defect in the consistency of the screen's ability to show colors uniformly/consistently across the panel. Some scenes/shows more noticeable than others.

[@jamesmatthews7548]

do not get the x90j i reapeat dont get it if ur a gamer horrible input lag, juddery, colors looks washed, blurry

[@chaosbolt66]

I have the Q80A. Loving it

[@burningbridgesthesilvershi2490]

I’m definitely going to get that Samsung for a gaming TV

[@yup2579]

Wow I was seriously stuck on the Samsung Q80A for some reason but this video changed my mind ! Looking for a good picture for Xbox Series gaming

[@alexlanning712]

comparisons between two similar price points does give you a good idea, critiques on the X90J cropped up on "U Tube" spontaneously after I purchased one (without researching it)

[@andrewshore262]

I just purchased the Samsung Q80A 55 inch because of the stand and the longevity of my previous Samsung (11 Years). Couldn’t really give a toss about the other crap they all give a good picture, and measuring picture quality with such precision is in my case pointless - but your review was still interesting.

[@joshboyle56]

If u don't look into it you don't know what your watching and u have clearly stated that

[@andrewshore262]

@@joshboyle56 I suppose you could say I looked at the stands / screen size that’s all

[@parkerbohnn]

@@andrewshore262 Josh is an idiot he comes from the mental asylum.

[@talthan]

was thinking about getting a 85 inch Q80A to replace my 65 Sony 900E because I wanted a larger screen to watch Star Wars type films, since I only watch head on and in a dark room...this video helped me decide not to buy the Samsung and just keep my Sony 900E for now

[@joshboyle56]

Buy 75inch x90j

[@phaedrussocrates7636]

PLEASE now compare winner to gaming Hisense model U7G! 🤗🙏

[@RTINGSdotcom]

It's up on our suggestion tool and appears to be a popular model! Make sure to vote for it if you'd like us to buy and test it :) www.rtings.com/tv/suggestions

[@cwdrock]

Why would you compare an apple to an orange?

[@loki76]

U7G is also a shitty IPS panel.. Only proper choice would be the U8G.. The fact Hisense call it "gaming" model and some people fall for that marketing. Sigh...

[@phaedrussocrates7636]

@@loki76 yeah you guys know EVERYYYYTHINNNNG about tv's even ones not reviewed yet. I guess you might be even shittier when it comes to knowing tv's than Hisense is as tv maker 😁😂

[@loki76]

@@phaedrussocrates7636 It's a simple fact though. The U8G is the better choice. Even that TV is questionable when it comes to Hisense quality. Who knows long term. U7G is an ips panel it is not a 'gamers TV' that is marketing BS to sell an inferior panel they offer. To make it sound better than it is.

[@behroozzahedi]

beautiful review, are you sure 50Q80A and 85Q80A has VA Panel? i mean it's globally or only Europe version

[@milanbiano9065]

I am hesitating between buying these 2. I´d like to download IPTV channels. Which one to choose? Thank you

[@ricknplano1401]

Thanks. You helped me decide.

[@Cruiseblackpool]

Review the 85” vs the QN90A if they both use VA panels the difference should be negligible.

[@nicholaspiccininni8513]

X90J Does have VRR now. Great tv for gaming and pretty much good for most everything.