Why Josh Rosen is a BUST | Film Room

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[@shanethegoat3162]

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[@RobDragonslayer]

Dog, 5:58 that's a pick by the outside linebacker 10/10 times. Rosen would have had to throw that ball on a rope before the receiver even broke, and lets be honest, he never had the time to develop that kind of trust with anyone in Miami, nor did he have the arm talent. Not saying he's any good, I've watched the film. He's not.

[@healthandfitness5070]

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[@r.williamcomm7693]

Great video. Look at the psychological reports on n Rosen. They say he questions “why?” Coaches don’t have time for that. The great Randy White said he couldn’t catch on as an LB because he was “a beat behind.” He said “if you have to think, it’s over. You just have to react.” Your video touches on this w/Rosen. Steve Young has the same issue early in his career. Fortunately Young had Sid Gilman to say “just let it go” & Mike Holmgren who coached Young in college to work with him while Young sat behind Joe Montana. Rosen needs to get out of his own way & out of his own head & QUICKLY do what the play requires or he will continue to be a bust.

[@The_Marquis_Of_Death]

I remember when josh rosen said he was going to make the 9 teams before him regret not drafting him. Umm no, the only team regretting anything is the cardinals for drafting rosen at 10.

[@richardnavarrete6512]

His terrible play got us Kyler so it's all good at the end of the day

[@speakingfacts3931]

Yeah that totally wasn’t our team. If it wasn’t for Rosen we wouldn’t have got kyler. Even though we lost by 20+ before Rosen was in but sure “cardinals fan”

[@speakingfacts3931]

First 2 games we lose 20+

[@loreortiz1865]

I mean, has he had any decent offense? The cardinals were a mess and doesn't have the athleticism that kyle has and the dolphins were tanking for tua

[@bill2953]

@@loreortiz1865 Rosen was replaced by 37 yr old Ryan Fitzpatrick who then chalked up some wins including Eagles & Patriots, remember? Never bought into Rosen and buy into Tua less.

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#paythebills

[@grayson6]

Thomas A pat mcafee bro

[@SamuelGoldNFL]

I strongly encourage you to watch the video before commenting on his offense and saying that his teams were bad. I addressed this in great detail in this video. IMO, when a QB has terrible accuracy from a clean pocket , terrible anticipation causing multiple interceptions, and when a QB is terrible at dealing with pressure, you aren't suddenly going to be good or great on a different team. All those traits will transfer to his new team.

[@ohjay7612]

My argument is not the team talent, its more the effort to actually develop Rosen. Both the cardinals and dolphins were talking about the number 1 pick before really Rosen got much of a chance, I dont think he was invested in like most other rookies are. Would it have made a difference? Idk. But possibly. I'm a Bills fan and Josh Allen got better in year two cause the Bill's are committed to him, just as an example.

[@SamuelGoldNFL]

@@ohjay7612 But shouldn't Rosen, as a player, overcome those issues? If that's what it takes for him to completely fall apart, isn't that concerning?

[@patrykkuffel2679]

@@ohjay7612 The Cardinals were definitely commited to Rosen his rookie year. Yes, most people projected the Cardinals to have the worst record in the NFL and have the 1st overall pick. However, talks about drafting Kyler Murray didn't appear until after the season had completed and especially after Kyler declared for the NFL Draft.

[@ohjay7612]

@@SamuelGoldNFL ​ Of course, but I dont want to pretend like his situation was normal and that the only possible factor is him and his talent. Look at a guy like Mitch Trubisky. He's awful but his team is STILL giving him chances and worked with him for years to try to make him as good as possible. Rosen got the exact opposite of that treatment, and its far from the usual deal for a top draft pick. Like I said, not saying it would have made a difference. But was his situation anything close to the usual deal for a top pick? No it was not and that is likely a factor.

[@ohjay7612]

@@patrykkuffel2679 If you only support your top QB pick for one year, by definition you were not committed. Look at how much time Winston, Trubisky, Marriota, Josh Allen, and other less than stellar players got/are getting?

[@elibosley8413]

"There were 9 mistakes in front of me and I'll make sure those teams regret it over the next 5 years." YEAH RIGHT 🤣🤣

[@greedypeedy8038]

5 years ain’t up yet

[@curtiswogan6703]

It's like he knew exactly how long his career was gonna be.

[@alq0923]

Well he really hasnt been given a good team the cardinals had a first year head coach a rookie wide receiver a 35 yr old legend but not elite larry fitzgerald a bad o line and with the the dolphins he had a 1st year head coach lack of talent on offense and not to mention he has gotten mentored by sam bradford,ryan fitzmagic and jimmy g/cj beatherd

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

He decade

[@galloguerra9517]

What now

[@chibifirestorm]

he panics under pressure so damn much, he just completely falls apart

[@SamuelGoldNFL]

Exactly. Not a good trait and that'd carry over to different teams.

[@demonicinfusion]

He's already been sacked more than 55 times on his 2 atrocious teams. His situation reminds me of what the Texans did to David Carr. Always remember NFL franchises ruin a LOT more QBs than they develop. The franchise you go to matters. Dolphins OC was Fired due to him being awful at teaching the offense to the young players. Fitz was put back in because he was the only one who understood it and he freelanced to make the young guys play better. ca.yahoo.com/news/dolphins-chad-oshea-fired-patriots-offense-too-complex-young-players-nfl-024041937.html

[@CharlesbGallup]

@@demonicinfusion Exactly this. Dude has been obliterated on the field.

[@martytu20]

demonicinfusion maybe that’s just fate. It sounds unfair, but careers are built on luck and opportunity. Busts can happen and it’s no one’s fault.

[@thomascoulon8766]

@@demonicinfusion The franchise you go to definitely matters, but sacks are a product of terrible pocket presence and slow reads as much as they are a product of a bad o-line.

[@cganimation1500]

How long does it take you to make your videos? - looks like a lot of work, but they are very nice :P

[@SamuelGoldNFL]

This video took 25 hours.

[@rodrellgreen167]

@@SamuelGoldNFL god damn

[@OgAndretti]

Once he said he went back to 2018 to try to find a good game from Rosen I knew he put in a lot of time into this video.

[@Kingko1234]

Great work Sam!

[@chrissaling8754]

They’re all bullshit josh Rosen on both teams has had the WORST OFFENSIVE LINE IN THE NFL BOTH TEAMS. He’s a god damn pocket passer. He needs protection. You can’t expect a rookie pocket passer to be thrown in the fire with the WORST LINE and what he’s supposed to thrive?

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[@davidwilliams4837]

Great video. Full disclosure: I felt before the draft Rosen was a bust based off his college film. He's slow to process reads and stares receivers down and often seems reluctant when he throws. I also never liked his throwing motion; his arm moves ahead of his base, which causes dead balls. To me, he's a less talented Trubisky [without the mobility or arm talent]. Rosen performed almost exactly as I thought he would. I'm honestly stumped as to why so many were high on him and why people still defend him. It wasn't his "teams"; it was his play.

[@ichigo449]

Hindsight is 20/20. Look at the pundits talking about Ryan Leaf.

[@louismaldarelli7053]

I think part of it was the year he came out. It was a very QB heavy draft with many QB-needy teams. There is always one QB that gets drafted early well above his stock based on who is left and media hype. Look at Herbert - I see him being a bust.

[@davidwilliams4837]

@@louismaldarelli7053 I agree. Herbert will likely be a bust. Don't understand the pick.

[@BBeowulf]

@@davidwilliams4837 yikes

[@MrScootmcg]

Nice breakdown. The slow processing and poor anticipation have always been there and credit to you for highlighting these instead of going with the usual 'his team sucks' narrative. Ironically he's been replaced by a guy who excels at both.

[@OOTD_]

I knew he was going to be a bust when he was acting so cocky after he got drafted like he was a Superbowl MVP already. People like that usually don't work hard.

[@mattipra]

"I'm the best decision this organization has ever made”

[@gavin8346]

@Incog Nito Proof? Because I can sure give you a lot of reasons he wont be. I know you will say I'm biased but you are a Cowboys fan so...

[@Don_east]

Incog Nito difference being Haskins looks better and uyou can see he’s been grinding this offseason

[@OOTD_]

@Incog Nito Haskins has better mentors. I can tell Rosen is the type to think he knows it all.

[@retronerds6884]

@Incog Nito haskins plays for the Redskins and even before the injury he was playing well

[@eugenepoon]

Finally! A mainstream guy not peddling the sob story and “that he is still a franchise qb” rhetoric! He busted. He wasn’t helped but he still busted.

[@conu2820]

I have to disagree

[@bryancurrie1486]

Conu2 care to elaborate? Because he looks very bad whenever he does play

[@ohmsohagia8743]

@@bryancurrie1486 he has the skills he just doesn’t have the mental, he folds under pressure

[@andyjamesalban4172]

I was never a fan of Josh Rosen. I always felt that he had a poor attitude and even Jim Mora Jr wasn't a fan of his.

[@MostlyHarmless9]

me neither remember when the freshmen came in and played better because he was too much of a bitch to play in the bowl game he was always a one read quarterback to me I never understood the whole Josh Rosen shit at allll

[@edmundrussell6044]

He won’t be a starting nfl qb for an entire season, ever!

[@wenxusun3226]

Rosen fan: He was on a terrible team and never given a chance! Fitzmagic: put the same exact team on his back and beat the pats thus ended the greatest football dynasty in history.

[@basteala525]

Or hell, Kyler Murray at least gave the Cardinals some fight in their losing. Rosen strikes me as a guy that cannot handle adversity at all.

[@donchapu8356]

As a niners fan you can see it, Kyler was a beast, he put on a fight against San Francisco's Defense, If it wasn't for Jimmy G, San Francisco would have lost those two Cardinals games.

[@prophetmaster4997]

Fitz is a vet, Rosen is a rookie. Makes all the difference in the world

[@JDP2104]

@@donchapu8356 if it weren't for Vance Joseph making horrid calls*

[@crazycorn5643]

Braulio Cárdenas no it was more Kyle shannahan. And our linebackers can’t cover tight ends. So thank more little. Not garopollo. If little wasn’t on the niners garopollo wouldnt have gone to a super bowl

[@GlobalWarmingSkeptic]

I feel bad for the guy, but no talent + slow mental processing + no intangibles? Why SHOULD he get any kind of starting job? At best, he belongs as some team's 3rd stringer, and that's a big stretch because as bad as I saw him look with he Dolphins, this video completely demolishes him.

[@bowlchamps37]

5:40 That really sums it up and is also a great example for the Winston/Mariota conversation. Winston would make that throw, hit it often but also turn it over often. Mariota would take the Rosen pass and punt. The first has potential, the Rosen and Mariota type of players do not.

[@samrosendahl392]

Peyton of the saints agrees with you lol

[@prophetmaster4997]

Gtfoh Mariota rarely ever turns the ball over coming from a Titans fan. The TITANS failed Mariota, not the other way around. Nowhere near comparable to Josh Rosen although Marcus has had a much better overall team than Rosen in his first two years which REALLY says a lot considering Tennessee was still rebuilding.

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[@rodmunch69]

Really good video. I just heard his conference call with the Bucs reporters, and boy does he sound different than he sounded in college. He's been humbled and it will be interesting to see if he can rebuild himself. I liked what I heard and he said he choose the Bucs practice squad, over a roster spot with another team, because of coaching and he wanted to be in the QB room with Brady and just try to understand how he processes information, and why he does what he does. He says his mindset completely changed after he got benched last year - and from the cocky kid in the draft that I remember, I'd say I believe him. No idea if it translates to the field, I mean he's not even on the 53-man roster, but I don't see how he could be worse than Blaine Gabbert, so he's got that going for him.

[@thelowroad216]

He's trash bro

[@AJAXRAIDER]

Great video. Lots of great points and fantastic film breakdown. Done your homework.

[@713Calm]

"That Rosey guy" -Dennis Rodman

[@eriksports]

Bad accuracy, bad anticipation, bad under pressure. Not ideal physical traits. What’s not to love. One of the easier bust predictions of the last few years. Herbert is next although I like him more than Rosen as a prospect.

[@exillens]

Yeah, Herbert has more raw physical talent than Rosen for sure

[@asielnorton345]

This is why getting drafted by the right team is incredibly important

[@diddypablo2006]

How are you able to get this copyrighted footage and not get a strike form NFL? Do you not monetize the videos?

[@KC_Smooth]

Sometimes karma has a way of showing us how to be more humble. Instead of complaining about how many QB’s were drafted ahead of him, he should’ve been working his ass off to prove his current team right for selecting him.

[@TakeAbackPak]

Yes, that was a rash bout of emotion from a 20 year old. That said it should be allowed to die now and young talent like him must get a fair shake at success.

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[@nathanielthomas7830]

So where do you get your film bro? I have wanted to start doing this but can't cut up nfl.com games lol

[@michaeltaylors2456]

Seemed meh to me while at UCLA . A fine college QB does not necessarily translate to NFL success. doesn’t everyone and scouts know this !?

[@michaelldn]

Incog Nito Yh but the reasoning many had behind rating Josh Rosen so highly was that he was polished. His game had no intangibles and was only said to be pro ready, he was seen as the “prototype” guy who played neatly and executed without making many errors. I feel like at the college level, where the competition is less, you have to be more than that; guys like Brady are an anomaly. Scouts should go for the guy that jumps off the film, even if he’s rough around the edges he can be trained up, unlike the guy who had nothing special to his game.

[@afw314]

Is it just me or do his mechanics just look horrible especially when under pressure? I get the pocket is collapsing and he’s running out of real estate but a lot of those throws have minimal foot movement and are all arm which was never his strong suit

[@nathanielthomas7830]

I agree. I see a ton of lazy footwork, which throws off your base which makes you awful usually as a qb

[@albieoval1657]

Looks like Brett Favre's footwork without any accuracy.

[@MrFlossinlawson]

he can't be a bust because he was never good.

[@mansoorahmed1676]

He was drafted high with high expectations that he didn’t meet so he is a bust

[@outdoorfanatics4596]

@@mansoorahmed1676 👆exactly. If he was picked late-2nd or early 3rd round he'd be about right. But #10 overall...I guess they all cant be golden picks

[@GeraldHarris-cf2zh]

He has been in the league 2yrs with horrible o lines. He can be a good QB in the league he needs to be coached up and learn to read defenses better.

[@statesev]

“It was a shoulder injury that sidetracked Rosen’s budding tennis career.” Yeah, I can’t think of a sentence that predicts NFL bust more than that one. He plays quarterback like McEnroe. That is bad.

[@John-ng9cr]

His confidence is probably at a all time low

[@someperson8151]

I think he had $17 million guaranteed signing bonus...and played like a minimum salary player. I think he's milking the NFL for his renaining contract and ready to do his own thing. He knows he's not cut out for the NFL. He has two years of $2+ million left. Rosen was smart leaving college early. He could have had a bad senior year and never get drafted. He should be laughing all the way to the bank.

[@eaststreetvariety5214]

@@someperson8151 it’s not money, I am sure he loves the sport and wants to play it but he just isn’t cut like that.

[@williejohnson5172]

The problem I find with many on the Rosen defenders is that It's not that Rosen needs to improve but that he DESERVED a ready made SB team. A team stacked with playmakers and HOFamers. That he was never given a chance and his coaches were bad. Look. Rosen was the #10 pick!!! Players drafted high in the draft go to crappy teams. The final straw was he couldn't beat out Fitz, an old jorneyman qb. If your #10 pick can't beat out a perennial backup then he's useless. Hell, Fitz is even a better backup than he is. This is going to be Baker's problem. If Baker can't outplay Burrows then Baker is absolutely useless in the AFCN.

[@keyton1928]

Season ticket holder for the ducks.... this is literally like watching Justin Herbert for four years. Late on reads, flustered under pressure, misses throws with a clean pocket, and relying on his legs too much (although it works in college). While they both obviously have great talent, for Herbert, I just can’t see him being super successful in his career unless he improves greatly.

[@lukaswiesbrock4272]

Hot Take: Herbert will have a career like Trubisky. Extremely volatile. The Chargers need to let him sit and learn at least a year and coach him right.

[@SpicyPepperon]

Lukas Wiesbrock that’s not a hot take, that’s like his most common comparison

[@samrosendahl392]

Lukas Wiesbrock that wont help. You can't learn everything that you need to know in the nfl, from the nfl, you have to know some things straight out of college. the reason why Burrow was the number one pick wasn't his talent, it wasn't his athleticism, it wasn't his celing, it is because of how crazy proto nfl quarterback he had already become in college, he developed all the right essential nfl habits, he learned to very quickly read defenses, has nfl footwork, he developed great eye discipline, very good at pre and post snap reads, everything he needs to thrive in the nfl. Herbert is going from high school level knowledge to the nfl, he's going to be a disaster, burrow is a quicker reader of defenses than many nfl quarterbacks, is mechanically flawless and had the polished quarterback play ever out of college, the cleanest tape for a quarterback ever, the best single season record ever, and even he's going to struggle against the elite NFL pass rush of the settlers and ravens, he's going to have a tough tough time and he's literally the most elite prospect, Herbert is going to be a nightmare under pressure even two years from now

[@samrosendahl392]

SpicyPepperón Trubisky actually had more success than I believe Herbert will have, at least the bears had a good coach, I'm convinced Lynn is inept and he's never developed a single quarterback in his entire career.

[@conu2820]

@@samrosendahl392 No it was bc of his talent and athleticism u can compare it to mahomes coming out yes and I mean yes Herbert can be questionable but he is in a good system and his mechanics aren't polished. Don't ever play on a players down fall tbh

[@TheSirkao]

josh rosen was trash in college.. if you were a trashbin college how can u succeed in nfl?? i mean i always looked at him as a loser in ucla?? never see any real good game, and dont blame their oline or defense.. its the quarter that sucks too..

[@MMYUMMYGaming]

it's just because of the Texas A&M game

[@stickaaay]

At this point he’s a bust, but he’s still very young, younger than Joe Burrow, and has 2 NFL seasons under his belt. That gives him lots of time to improve and work on his game and change his bust status

[@stackx9504]

He has zero chance of going to the Patriots, I highly doubt the Dolphins would be stupid enough to trade a quarterback in division even if they think he’s a lost cause.

[@Mr01dschool]

Yeah all these people saying he is going to the Patriots so they can turn him into an All Pro need to get in touch with reality. The Patriots would have to offer a 1st rounder to even get the Dolphins' attention.

[@andrewk1037]

Man I forgot all about this channel. Notifications are busted. Im back.

[@cemarz]

I'm a browns fan. I've seen SO many bad qb's. But I've never seen anyone play as much as Rosen and not pick up on the speed of the game. It's kind of amazing.

[@generalblaze5488]

Mason Rudolph as well

[@PastorTrue93]

Serious question, when it comes to those WR drops that hurt Rosen, why weren't those dropped passes hurting Fitzpatrick? Its almost like the the supporting cast plays better with a different QB. Does it have something to do with the way the QB throws the ball?

[@SamuelGoldNFL]

Fitzpatricks drop rate was below average too. At 6.2%. Not as bad as Rosen, but still pretty poor. One thing to note is that Rosen's passes weren't always on the frame which made his WRs work for it. Still technically catchable, but just more difficult leading to more "drops".

[@gourami7]

@@SamuelGoldNFL So more hospital passes..

[@xman369xxx]

He wasn’t even that good in college. I never saw what scouts saw

[@dantheman8152]

Pocket passers who can’t move need to be lethal in other areas, to compensate for the lack of mobility/playmaking. Rosen has to improve accuracy or he will done soon.

[@codyfan1097]

Great video as always Sam

[@patrykkuffel2679]

I am also not going to blame the teams for his lack of success and development. A perfect example is Kyler Murray, Rosen's replacement. Although we are comparing two very different quarterbacks, Murray had essentially the same offensive talent to work with and faired much better than Rosen. Since Rosen's rookie year, he has had major issues with anticipation and something stared at his recievers. Sam showed in this video a clear indication of this lack of anticipation in his second year. Although Rosen in Arizona had one of the worst offensive lines and only decent weapons, Kyler generated significantly more offense with the same talent around him. However I do understand I'm not accounting for the change in schemes when the Cardinals brought in Kingsbury. In Miami, we saw a very similar scenario play out. Rosen has multiple opportunities to win the starting job. I find it very unlikely that Miami's expectations were too high for Rosen to succeed. They knew they were not a very good roster and were looking to see development out of Rosen. Instead, he showed a lack of improvement from his rookie season and still had some bad habits. Despite Miami's poor roster, we saw a significant change to their offense when they benched Risen for Fitzpatrick. Although I definitely won't say it is an amazing offense, they almost came back and won the game against the Redskins. I believe they went 0-7 to start the season. After starting Fitzpatrick in the remainder of the season, they finished 5-11 beating the Eagles and Patriots who are both playoff teams. I think this is significant reason to show that Miami's roster was not the reason for Rosen's lack of success.

[@mikepelligrino6329]

I've never seen a worse pro QB than Josh Rosen.

[@cemarz]

Kizer maybe. At least Kizer served under the worst HC in league history.

[@mikeymyke]

You see what happens when you let hubris take over? "There were 9 mistakes ahead of me" And then he ends up being the biggest mistake out of the top 10.

[@area.man.]

Hell the entire first round.

[@BangBang9er]

My only question is... Why is he on the 49ers? He looks worse than Mullens!

[@urafish1]

keep doin your thang man!!! love the content

[@mr.rufasi2729]

Idk if u take requests but I’m kinda curious about what u think about tyrod Taylor and if he can have any success with the chargers as a bridge qb

[@unclematt3]

This is some damn thoughtful analysis and consideration. This guy really knows his stuff.

[@LanceUppercut]

I had a feeling CPOE didn't include drops (given some discrepancies with film-charted "accuracy" I'd seen). Sure, it's still a big improvement, but it's a shame that a source (NFL) with such resources can't adjust for a pretty simple thing (especially when so many "advanced" metrics are behind pay-walls nowadays).

[@SamuelGoldNFL]

Yeah agreed. It's frustrating.

[@gourami7]

Drops are not the issue here. Accuracy, timing, pocket presence, awareness really lacking with Rosen. Would need time as a QB2 with a good QB coach to work on those aspects. He still has time to improve

[@SamuelGoldNFL]

@@gourami7 Never said drops were the main issue. We were just talking about CPOE, the stat, specifically. Nothing mroe.

[@gourami7]

@@SamuelGoldNFL I wasn't replying to you but to LanceUppercut4.

[@713Calm]

Take that "3" off, boy. You should wear "E". Gets worse the more he has to move and evade pressure. The bizarro-world Russell Wilson.

[@giniaboy9967]

9 mistakes ahead of me ... lmao

[@serude2559]

Career backup at best. I thought the Dolphins wasted a 2nd round pick on him.

[@exillens]

In hindsight they did waste a pick but I really thought it was worth the risk. But when Fitzpatrick proved to be a far superior QB I saw everything I needed to see. He may have a chance to beat out Fitzpatrick again in training camp but if he doesn't he'll be lucky to be a 2nd string QB wherever he goes

[@serude2559]

@mike mars Yea I agree, I didn't like his college tape. Not sure why this guy was a top 10 pick.

[@BBeowulf]

@@serude2559 because he’s a ✡️ so the ✡️ hyped him up beyond belief. He didn’t even do anything in college, he was awful so where else did the hype come from?

[@Jan_ne]

Why Samuel Gold is a MUST WATCH.

[@lamonthamlette9793]

Considering my Steelers had a guy named Duck playing last year. I’ll take him as a project, I love him as a freshmen at UCLA. He had heart and confidence idk where it’s gone.

[@KCClassic7]

Great video and breakdown! I would love to see Rosen get a shot elsewhere and be in a good situation, but I honestly j just don’t see that happening. I think the best situation is for him to sit behind an aging vet, and hopefully be able to learn under them and eventually compete for the start job when the time comes

[@MattBiggsius]

Look at Rosen's sideline demeanor before he was made the starter in Arizona. You'll notice him smiling and joking around while his teams getting blown out. Not even paying attention to the game knowing he was gonna be the starter soon. I made my opinion before he ever took a snap.

[@tinapham202]

I don’t understand how he was drafted 10th. Where Patrick Mahomes was drafted. Dude was semi good his rookie season at UCLA and then he never develop or improve since then. He shouldn’t have even been drafted till the 4th.

[@brettk9316]

Not that I think or ever thought this guy was going to be any good in NFL, but god at beginning of video that Miami offensive line blocking may have been worst I have ever witnessed.

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

I remember when rosen said if tom brady wins 6 rings he will win 7 rings 😆

[@devinlacefield7538]

I'm a Dolphins fan, and I was really pulling for this guy, and wow I never noticed how bad his throws actually were. Glad the Dolphins got this dude for cheap and hopefully they can offload him for something decent in return. Something the film shows but can't be 100% proven is I believe that Rosen doesn't have that NFL level drive and work ethic to be successful just based off his attitude and social media presence.

[@aaronclem6817]

What source do you use to get college game film?

[@johnpoulton9446]

Really nice work on this ! I had been wondering if he was going to land somewhere stable and start to become a good qb. Not that it still cant happen but your work here shows a lot more than just rookie mistakes and poor supporting cast as the reasons. Great job!

[@Zsklar]

Honestly, the dude has less than 2 seconds to get rid of the ball on nearly every play. Miami and Arizona had by far the worst Offensive Line's in all the NFL and probably rank among the worst of all time. I know lots of these were timing throws on short routes, but he still had pressure coming on these short routes. Give this dude some time to throw the ball and I'd like to see what that does for his confidence and accuracy. Also, 8% drops is brutal. Tough for any QB to keep drives moving with those many drops. This kid is getting an unfair review after getting thrown to the wolves. I'd like to see what he looks like with better players around him with a better grasp of the playbook. Chad O'Shea had a horribly complicated scheme. I think you will see the best Josh Rosen this season and he will put most of those doubts to rest. Miami would be wise to hang on to him as a back up to Tua and trade him when his trade value is at an acceptable level.

[@bowlchamps37]

Cardinals were actually 14th in the league in fewest pressures given up two years ago. Most of the pressures were on Rosen. Similar to the Bucs with Winston e.g.. And even if Rosen had a clean pocket, he had a 31 QBR, which is dead last.

[@johnlee7377]

still doesn't explain fitz tearing it up as soon as he took over. phins would've easily beaten the skins if fitz started over rosen after kickoff

[@conu2820]

@@johnlee7377 Yes it does it's a morale thing a new coach and a new system is hard to learn look at Winston the former but that system bruce has is over 500+ plays reasons why luck struggled along with palmer

[@conu2820]

@@bowlchamps37 First off give this man something he will be successful down the line. He is a good QB his mechanics are good it's like exclaiming mitch's performance as a bear. Rosen can lead he came off a season ending injury in collage so give him a chance

[@prophetmaster4997]

That's funny because damn near everyone was saying how terrible that Cardinals OL was. They were getting roasted every week and Rosen was running for his life in one of the worst offenses in the league with Father time Fitz as his best weapon while they drafted a fuck load of weapons for Murray (who was also running for his life).

[@paulbrownman7307]

The ability to anticipate and trust your receivers is crucial.

[@joshuahand407]

He played in the Pac12 and was overhyped, so... none of the above.

[@bill2953]

Never bought into him, never understood how he was a 1st rounder. Oh right, that was based on his Jr year. Phhhh

[@Ev1l-WrlD-Productions]

That's how I feel with Herbert but hey 1st round pick

[@boosted211]

@@Ev1l-WrlD-Productions passing on a cheap cam newton for herbert is a huge mistake imo.

[@MacMyKitty]

PAC 12 have produced great Qbs so Idk why you say he played in the Pac12

[@joshuahand407]

@@MacMyKitty playing against subpar defenses

[@networth8754]

I recall when he was drafted he said all 9 of the players the were drafted ahead of him were "mistakes". It turned out he was the mistake.

[@dom19945]

2:10 poor arm strength. He has no zip.

[@brandonwright5792]

He’s on the run. Anyone who has watch his tape, knows he is not a mobile QB.

[@ye6973]

he’s got one of the better arms in the league. he just can’t handle pressure and has lost all confidence. arm talent isn’t an issue

[@stephenbattle1]

@@ye6973 🤥

[@ye6973]

Stephen Battle Where’s the lie my guy? Just because a guy ends up disappointing doesn’t he doesn’t have an arm. Cutlers got an all time arm and only made one pro bowl

[@OttawaRocks]

Good explanation. Subscribed.

[@Dayonetheone]

You can't use the dropped pass scenario because you could use the same argument for 70% of NFL Quarterbacks. He needs to play with a team that has a great offensive line, plan and simple. Everytime I looked at this video shows me he's antsy and in a hurry. Plus with his lack of anticipation.

[@BenjiBoyStephEnt]

The game is about confidence as much as it’s about skill I’m a ravens fan and Lamar 1st 8 games were great but his passing wasn’t up to par yet. He even said it himself and now he’s our mvp I wouldn’t say he is a bust just give him a chance on a team that believes in him that builds around him and to your point that Fitzmagic made the team better he did but he’s also a seasoned vet and knows how to win in the NFL

[@ACHANNELOFGREATNESS]

Couldn't agree more -sincerely a cardinals fan

[@karenwang313]

The good news for Rosen is that he has the opportunity to sit on the Dolphins as a backup for a year or two and work on his game a bit.

[@jaytcache6580]

nope he out of league

[@JoshuaBLowery]

It's clear that the coaching staff at Arizona was bad (they got canned), but I think that the Dolphins shouldn't get lumped in with that. Sure the organization seemed that they were tanking, but Flores and the coaching staff ground out 5 wins from that squad and I don't think they would have been able to with Rosen.

[@DNeonLamp]

The OC still got fired...

[@southernsmoke8391]

No they wouldn't have won 5 with Rosen bc the OC was over his head. Flores and Oshea failed Rosen by playing him when they were still figuring things out. Those five wins came against who? That pats game, the offense and defense were the same on both sides. A few of BB's wannabes have a quality win over the 1st yr after they left NE so what does that one win mean? They are still predicted to finish ahead of Miami in 2020, with Stidham at qb. If Rosen is a bust, why wouldn't Grier trade him to NE or keep him on the roster? NO and Dal got backups that Fitztragic couldn't beat out but we are going to hold onto a bust bc he is cheap, not bc he can play. Grier has three draft picks into two players, one of which is a bust and the other one is subject to getting busted up. Enjoy the kool aid and that Tua jersey.

[@kylerokeh1089]

“Good to see somebody who doesn’t buckle under the pressure”

[@l.rongardner2150]

A bust? What are you talking about? The dude makes a top-tier lox and bagels sandwich that any Jewish deli would be proud to peddle.

[@erosennin211]

He just landed on Tampa Bay’s practice squad!!! Absolutely perfect spot imo, getting to sit and learn behind Tom Brady while being mentored by Bruce Arians is exactly what he needs to reach his potential.

[@FalloutProfile]

So glad we traded him so we could draft Andy Isabella

[@chrisbikin9350]

I’m just glad the cardinals might have saved their future by drafting kyler. The only thing kyler needs to do now is continue to grow. Dude is already accurate and has elite arm strength.

[@keyshi4789]

“The next Brett favre” according to some sports media last year. But honestly when was the last time a QB consistently thrived in the Dolphins system?

[@blacksheep25251]

Marino..

[@LUMBEEPHENOM2012]

this is the type of videos ive been looking for man!

[@mstaehlefl]

I had heard all about him, then saw UCLA play Memphis, and he was clearly the 2nd best QB on the field. To me he has always had Jeff George written all over him. Good physical talent, but no head for the game, no proven leadership, and for such a supposed transcendent talent, no impact in making his team successful. Great combine numbers are nice, but it doesn't override mediocre actual play. Even in a way down Pac 12 he wasn't a consistent performer. It was like his high school hype carried over to the draft, and his meh college play was somehow ignored.

[@MonnyYell]

Kyler Murray has the same team and so did FitzMagic

[@TakeAbackPak]

Murray had a system dsigned around him. Strangely same applie to Fitz, he thrives on a chaotic team. What Magic? 0 playoff appearances in 15 years?

[@calebshort2169]

Rosen reminds me a lot of Joey Harrington a guy that looked great till pressured or he had to speed up his reads. He just couldn’t calculate the speed of nfl defenders and it caused him to ultimately fail. That’s what I see as Rosen’s bigger problem. Some guys can just either slow down the field or speed up there mind to be great Rosen can’t his talent and ability can’t carry him in the Nfl because the game is just to fast for him. I think there are a lot of quarterbacks like this. Guys that when there is no pressure or or they are just working out make all the throws and look amazing. But that’s not the biggest part of being an nfl QB measurable darr the least important part of being an Nfl QB. It’s the ability to slow down the play or speed your play up. Rosen never had this so his abilities only took him as far as an ok to good college quarterback. I don’t think you can rebuild a guys mind. It just seems to be something you are born with or not.

[@DannyWilliamH]

5:53 No. He throws that ball and it's an INT. The check was right in this case. The defender is breaking on the route exactly as the slot breaks in his. That's 100% an INT for a guy with his arm. About 10 guys in the league can make that throw and Rosen isn't one of them.

[@greatchimdale9194]

I’m still in Rosen’s corner 🤷🏾‍♂️ nice vid tho you pointed out some things I was oblivious to

[@davidbuswa9425]

Rosen is done as a NFL starting quarterback. He should go to the CFL's Edmonton Football team that has his CFL rights

[@beatsballzthejaysizzleshow7746]

Didn't you make a video in 2016 saying he was the 2 ND coming ?

[@drunkn4769]

Nah Rosen is just bad and way overrated in the draft He was bad at ucla

[@btbarr16]

I only saw a few of his college games, but I didn't understand what people liked so much. He just looked like an average QB. I never saw anything that made me said "wow that was nice."

[@conu2820]

He wasn't terrible this man reconstructed his arm. Also the situations these online where ranked a lot and he mentioned scrambling qbs he isn't like that.

[@PaulGaither]

Against Brady or Manning, you can do everything right and still get beat. Against Josh Rosen, you can do everything wrong and still be alright.

[@adolphenia]

That argument about not blaming the team and coaching staff around him just because fitzpatrick did better under the same situation should be wrong. Ive heard former defensive players say that backups are usually difficult for the defense because they havent gameplanned for the backup compared to the starter.

[@uptownla5o4]

When did it become the norm that if a qb isn't elite right away they're a bust? I'm glad guys like Peyton Manning and Drew Brees weren't drafted in these times

[@unclerico1106]

@uptownla5o4 the nfl is win now or rebuild. Its rarely reload and evaluate talent for years to come.

[@hancockhawks66]

2:00 it actually starts

[@STFU255]

Heard teammates didn’t really like him. Like had an elitist attitude and something like that can’t have an overall affect on the team. Guys aren’t gonna wanna go all out for you because they don’t like you.

[@JrRafael123]

Since his time at ucla. I never thought he was an nfl qb. I couldn’t believe he went in the first round in 2018. Dont hate the guy just his play isnt at an nfl level.

[@XxTCWxX14]

the title.. PAUSE lmaoo

[@presidential3228]

yo this video is sick, liking and subbing forsure bro

[@raro9813]

I believe he's young. He needs a chance. Being Phillip Rivers backup would be great

[@ianperry9598]

But he has had a chance, 2 of them. He’s just not good enough to justify a 1st round pick. He’s a bust, plain and simple. That’s not to say he can’t be an ok starter or a good backup, but as a 1st rounder, he’s not an elite or franchise qb.

[@raro9813]

@@ianperry9598 he has the same age as Joe Borrow, i know he's not a natural leader. But i don't think Rosen is done in the NFL.

[@Johnysimus]

What has changed compared to college? Coming out the analysts claimed he is one of the most accurate and pro-ready QBs. Did he play against low competition at college or was it something to do with scheme?

[@SamuelGoldNFL]

Neither - He was actually very accurate from a clean pocket at UCLA. I LOVED him in college. The problem is that pressure seriously affected his process and actions. He looked like a beat dog as soon as intense pressure came and it carried over. He had bad WRs at UCLA but didn't deal with THIS horrible of pressure. I think it hurt him.

[@PastorTrue93]

@@SamuelGoldNFL whats crazy is, this is similar to what Skip Bayless said about him before that draft.

[@vonfriedland]

Now that he’s in Tampa, Rosen has no excuse. He has an offensive minded coach, great weapons, and he gets to sit and learn behind the G.O.A.T. It’s put up or shut up time.