Archery Review Arrow Comparison - Budget VS Expensive Arrows | Easton FMJ, Victory, Gold Tip

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

What arrows should I look at next? You decide! www.StrongShotArchery.com

[@ObelixCMM]

It would be nice to see how Victory TKO line compares to "regular" line.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thanks man! I'll definitely be looking into that

[@zachbuckley4842]

Another popular brand to consider adding to the mix is Beman Arrows.

[@primal_inc]

Hey Albert Einstein you did a great job on this video

[@jameshobbs3948]

Deer crossing archery

[@Sportsmans_Warehouse]

Our in-house arrows are made by Gold Tip

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thanks guys!

[@sikhbhavikh3232]

I bought a pack of 6 SW Ballistic Hunter for $36.99 400 spine 8.2 GPI 2” vanes at 28.5. They are made by Gold Tip. They are only “ok” and tend to be flyers mostly spiral down to the left(I have it on video) Looking into building my own or getting the Gold Tip Velocity or Pro series arrows. I’m a Hunter using 50#-60# bow and 28” 400 spline 125 broadheads. Trying to tune in a decent arrow setup that I’m confident in getting a hunt at 20-40yards in Utah mountains.

[@leviharrison4127]

@@sikhbhavikh3232 Check out the gold tip Hunter XT, have had a lot of success with them. Ended up being a little over $100 so they're pricey but buy once cry once.

[@texassportsman5880]

There you go. Store brand arrows aren't cheap. You make them sound like a low quality product made without the same care as name brand product. I suspect that Blackout arrows are made by company that makes more expensive arrows. When producing a review video the words you use can change the original message you intended. So how about using the word 'inexpensive' in place of cheap. Think of it this way. Lexus is a Toyota luxury brand. If a guy buys a Corolla instead of a Lexus is he buying a product that cannot be trusted? If a guy buys a Toyota forva long distance trio will he be better off if he blows his wad on a Lexus? The Lexus comes with leather, impressive sound system, sound deadening from road noise and the Corolla does not. Does that mean the guy who buys the Corolla is screwed because he didn't buy a Lexus. There's so much ego out there. Guys smacking down other guys because they didn't blow a house payment on the same equipment they did. Internet forums, YT videos and out at the range guys are afraid to show up for fear of not having the right equipment. This alone can prevent new generations of new people taking up hunting, fishing, hiking, motorcycling or any other outdoor activity. My dad bought just about everything used. He bought a used rifle. An old Remington .30-06 pump with open sights. He shot a 12 pt. at 200 yards and just about everyone else didn't believe he made a shot like that without a scope. He did. Inexpensive products are for people who don't make $65/hr plus triple time for holidays but deserve quality equipment on a budget.

[@casanovafrankenstein8875]

@@texassportsman5880 🤣

[@jamescooper2618]

The only thing that really matters is if they look really cool.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

True, that's the defining factor of all my purchases, lol! Thanks for watching James

[@mattameo95]

Thank you so much for doing this, it must have taken you forever, and it saved me hours upon hours of reading opinions on forums.

[@craigbrewer433]

I got Easton Pro Hunters for my first batch of arrows. After destroying almost half, I wanted something cheaper for practice sessions. Got some literal no name arrows at Walmart for $3 each. They shot better than the Easton's. I ended up clearing the local Walmart of that particular arrow on my next trip.

[@nikolaushusar82]

I think it would be interesting to see a flight/grouping test in addition to the data

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Hey Nikolaus, the arrow flight/groupings for the arrows should be fairly relative to the stats that I gave in the review, but that would be an awesome addition to the videos! The problem is, there are so many other factors that determine flight and groupings. For example: rest positioning, spine, foc, etc. So it would be almost impossible to keep it fair for every arrow. If I can find a way to make an apples to apples comparison, I will definitely add that to the reviews. Thanks for watching and for the great idea!

[@MrChulaFreak]

Best unbiased bow and/or arrow reviews out there!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thank you so much Scott!

[@TheBudgetSportsman]

I’ve watched a few of your videos in the past but I’m always a “slow to subscribe guy.” This video won me over. Can’t wait to see the results of the big name arrows.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thank you so much! I've actually been subbed to you for a while now. I'm patiently waiting for your channel to blow up - I know it's coming. Keep up the great work!

[@TheBudgetSportsman]

Samuel White Thanks for following along and your kind words. I’ve been away from home for 5 weeks now so the videos have been a little slow...but they are coming soon.

[@abirch77]

"The archery arrow industry is way over saturated with choices." NOT if you shoot over a 31" draw/arrow. Then you're stuck with too limited choices!

[@TheLindseyWay]

great review man, thanks for taking the time to do this! makes us feel good about our choice of Victory Archery!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thank you guys for the kind words! It means a lot

[@brayls2]

Great content! I bought a six pack of the Vindetta arrows on a whim from Scheels a while back. They fly as good as my Velocities and almost as well as my Carbon Injections. I was pretty surprised..now I know why.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Haha! That's awesome. I was extremely surprised on their performance as well. They were super impressive for their price. Thanks for watching Ben!

[@ObelixCMM]

Great job Sam, looking forward to higher end arrows comparison!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thank you so much Obelix!

[@sethalbert1239]

I bought the sheels and they shoot great. Instantly improved my groups.

[@NicholasSanchez814]

I watched the video and this is a great set of data; however, I wish the elite level victory shaft was compared to an FMJ match grade or another .001 straightness shaft like the gold tip pro hunter series. I think this would make for a more apples to apples comparison.

[@sbryce66]

Agreed! Just the regular fmj’s have a +/- .002 straightness so there’s gonna be a little difference in consistency and straightness

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Hey Nicholas, thanks for watching and for the great feedback! The FMJ Match grade will 100% be in a future video. You're completely right, I'm looking forward to the more apples to apples comparison as well.

[@jonathanrollins7292]

Totally agree, the Vap elite is Victory's equivalent of the Easton Match Grade FMJ

[@jamesz9139]

Neat coincidence: I watched your video comparison exactly a year to the day after you posted it. I've been hunting with Easton FMJs for about 10 years. I actually prefer the N-fused version, which seem slightly more durable. Some have gone through deer and stuck in the ground; then with some cleaning, a new broadhead, and occasionally, re-fletching, I've been able to use them multiple times. That helps defray the cost of--as you rightly pointed out--rather expensive arrows. That said; I'll definitely have to give the Victory and Scheel's arrows a closer look! Thanks for the review!

[@kfirbehar6720]

Awesome! Though I would like to see the raw data too. As a target archer I would like to see some more high-end arrow comparisons, though I do understand this may not be possible budget wise. Also, I would like to know what methods you used to determine everything, did you check spine around shaft, or just at one point? Did you check outside straightness only? or inside as well? (from my experience a lot of arrows are straight on the outside, but the hole is not concentric, and the components wobble, this usually happens in ultra micro shafts like x10s and CE nanos, probably because the wall is so thick). How was consistency calculated? Anyway, this is a great initiative! Maybe do stabilizers next?

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I've gotten a ton of requests for me to share some of the data, so expect that in the upcoming videos! I'll be going more into my methodology at some point. You're completely right, the budget is thin at the moment, but expect some target arrows in the future. I'm a target archer as well, so I'm extremely curious to see the results. Thanks for watching!

[@TWestOutdoors]

I've bought 7 dozen carbon hunter arrows from cabelas over the last 5 years. And have killed over 25 deer with them. In that 7 dozen I have only found 4 arrows that were to bad to fly straight at 40 yards. I really think you got a bad box of them. I check every arrow that goes into my quiver and practice arrows. These are all around great hunting arrows for the price. I have one arrow that has killed 5 deer and it's still in my quiver. That arrow still has original fletching ready for number 6. Great channel and reviews man. I would like to see another test on the cabelas carbon hunter in the future. Good luck this season.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I'll definitely be retesting more Carbon Hunters in the future and build up the sample size. I want to make sure I'm fair to all of the arrows that I test. Thanks for watching!

[@jeremybledsoe8886]

Most hunters can not out shoot the cheaper store branded arrows. Most target shooters can’t either. What I mean is that the expensive highest quality arrows are overkill for the average archer. I would like to see a shot comparison out of a hooter shooter. That way it is a true comparison taking the human element out of the equation. Also done at multiple distances to see at what point the quality starts to be a factor. Props to Samuel, well done video!

[@taggardhecker6380]

Great job Sam! Thanks for the insight! For a young guy you keep doing what you’re doing!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thank you so much! I'll make sure to keep at it.

[@leroyjones769]

Young man.. you have a very bright future ahead of you in whatever you pursue

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thank you Leroy, I really appreciate that!

[@TheIngoBeck]

I'm gonna guess it's somewhere in the archery industry. 👍

[@fireplug2629]

You have to do this annually. With Archery consistency is key and knowing and see this data year over year would be great and fun content to boot.

[@billwhisnant8003]

thanks for the work you always try to make the comparisons as fare as possible. haven't received them yet but ordered the vendettas .I will let you know.

[@BennyCFD]

Depends on what your using them for. Backyard, competition, hunting, or just plinking around.

[@superveggito2000]

I just got into archery and I'm glad I saw this! I haven't invested too much into any arrows yet so thanks for the info and research!

[@fahlvfaust677]

Skylon 4.2mm id..deer crossing 4.2mm id..love small diameter arrow..i can't take fat shaft

[@scottbpac]

Took your recommendations; went with the Scheels Vendetta Pros; got them on sale for $35 a box. Really like how they shoot. Would put the, up against many others. I normally shoot Black Eagle Carnivores and really like them but I wouldn’t hesitate to use the Vendetta hunting or target shooting. Great arrow for the price. Thanks for the info.

[@jakemoon639]

I am new to the world of compound bows and I'm glad I watched this video before buying my arrows... I also just ordered the Scheels Vendetta Pros... I'll report back also :)

[@teamflanneloutdoors5631]

Yet another quality review from this channel witch I truly appreciate. With that said where are Victory arrows manufactured? As an American born and bred hunter I prefer to spend my money on Made In America arrows and archery products. Invest in America Patriotism- support American archery.

[@donkeykong2087]

I 100% agree with you victory is made in korea. That is one of the selling points at our shop. We try to sell all American made arrows, bows, and other equipment. I also mentioned the diameter of the fmj automatically makes it a better arrow for penetration.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thank you again, I really appreciate the support! I believe one of the only arrow companies that manufacture in the US is Easton.

[@vinnyM30]

First off...great video. Very honest Nd straight forward. I was wondering if you could also test the bass pro X1 arrows. They re little more expensive than the 3 and 5 that you tested but supposedly have excellent tolerances. I've been using them and am interested in what you will find and if they are comparable or even worth the money

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Those are definitely on the to-do list so that video will be coming at some point. I'm extremely curious as well. Thanks for the support and watching the videos! I really appreciate it.

[@twayne4usa]

nice work buddy. i was an FMJ lifer until a couple years ago. RIP with 75g inserts up front are the Ali's of arrows. I would be interested in seeing how the Easton Hexx arrows or Injexion FMJs vs VAPs.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thank you so much! Those were definitely on the to-do list, so I'll see if I can get my hands on them

[@jthepickle7]

Nicely done. @ $65 per dozen, the Bass Pro Blackout X5 Envy was a good deal. The arrows were cut to length, and inserts glued in for free. As a relative beginner, I can't complain. After two months all the arrows are intact...even the three I've lost, I guess!

[@Aubart]

You should do a video on how snow/rain effects the shot of an arrow. I consistently hunt in snow and raining conditions and can’t imagine how much the water sitting on the arrow changes the flight. I think it would be a good real world test, and basically throws out any idea of floating and tuning arrows.

[@DontInterruptMeCunt]

Did or would you trust them into hunt whitetail with? If so what did you get..I bought some before since I'm still learning and have been tempted to get more but I keep hearing hunt with what you practice with..buy 12 weed out the stray flyers..

[@bhuff1024]

Great video. Any way to actually see the data? I would actually be interested in it

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

A ton of people asked for that so I'm going to be sharing a lot more data in my future reviews! Thanks for watching and for the great the feedback Ben.

[@bhuff1024]

@@SamuelWhiteArchery I was actually hoping to see the raw data you recorded. I'm currently doing my masters in mechanical engineering and would like to analyze the data to make some correlations to other physical behavior of both the arrow and the bow.

[@jeremystrader02]

You should review the full black eagle line of arrows! I personally hunt with the carnivores and would be interested in your thoughts on them!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I just recently got my hands on the Black Eagle Rampage arrows, and without spoiling anything, they were pretty dang solid! Expect plenty of Black Eagles in the future. Thanks for watching Jeremy!

[@1nestly]

Enjoy the mechanical testing, but I'd love to see you shoot groups with them and see if the straightness/consistency ratings translate into groups size.

[@NorthRiverGuide]

That would be interesting for sure, although I dont think many people would have it. With such tight tolerances the difference in .001 and .006 is negligible to the vast majority of archers and would most likely show little difference if any, unless of course the test was stacked in favour of a tighter tolerance arrow by using tiny target fletch and a very low FOC, where the straightness is relied upon to keep the arrow tracking true. A fair practical comparison would be a very good watch!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Hey Nestly, love your videos by the way! I wouldn't be able to test this for every arrow/brand since there are too many underlying factors, but I should be able to tell if I compared 1 type of arrow. This could actually let us see the implications of these small differences. Keep a look out for that video in the future. Thanks for watching!

[@rayking3466]

Sam, Over all a great vid. Lots of info. Not surprising that the Victories scored so well. Looking forward to what you find in the Black Eagle line as I'm thinking of trying to get a sponsorship from them. There are a lot more factors in a hunting arrow than just spine, straightness and consistency. A hunting arrow, unlike a target shaft has to penetrate. In order to do that it has to carry momentum. What are the overall weights of the various arrows (shaft only)? Where is the arrow balanced with a 100 gr head? 125? (foc). How will the arrow hold up inside the animal as it goes through skin, meat and possibly bone? (lateral strength). Will the arrow hold a bend if it gets flexed? Which vanes are on them? How much noise do those vanes make as the arrow flies? Most, if not all, come with Blazers when fletched, possibly my least favorite vane. Keep up the good work. Hell night will be sometime toward the beginning of October. I'll call you when I know for sure.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I'll really have to consider these testing factors. Testing different fletchings for the sound they produce would be insane, and that could be a whole separate video.

[@rayking3466]

@@SamuelWhiteArchery It could be a movie length, (and budget) production that would bore the hell out of anyone who is not an absolute junky. And it might not prove anything other than arrows make noise as they fly.

[@justmeva]

Great job on producing the data. I'm very surprised at how well the Victory arrows did over the FMJ's. I have been using the Easton arrows for some time now and I thought that I was getting very good results. I have been experimenting with the VAP line - but I am experiencing a mixed bag of results. I probably have to adjust my bow to the VAP series of arrows.

[@gabefirstraised1373]

Dude how do you not have more subscribers!? If you're someone who shoots a bow, subscribe!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Haha! I appreciate it man. I'll keep the videos coming and we'll see how things go.

[@renatugaming5730]

I think the same here, there is always a need for someone to make things simpler, for arrow reviews, I think the cake goes to him.

[@jthomasstthomas]

Damn...awesome video. You’re the real deal. I’m new to archery but work in data and measurements. Nicely done and smart.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thank you Jeremiah, that means a lot!

[@blazeice111]

You have the most detailed, informative archery videos I've ever seen. My buddy and I are very impressed. just got done watching your release video. Would you advocate specifically for a trigger release when it comes to hunting then? This is a great video for arrows. I'm going to use this for my dad who insists on letting the archery shop give him Beman arrows. do you think after doing these tests, you could actually shoot these arrows at let us see how the variations materialize downrange? That would be VERY cool

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Hey Nick, thank you so much for watching! Tell your buddy that I said thanks as well. In regard to the release, that purely comes down to personal preference. Some people prefer the wrist strap index trigger so they can relax their hand, others prefer the 3 finger thumb trigger for a better anchor and sometimes more control. It really comes down to testing and finding what works best for you. Also, I think that form of testing will likely be in one of my future videos!

[@jameslewis1179]

I want to know what idiot gave it a thumbs down. Looking forward to seeing you in PA for archery season!!!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Lollll probably one of my competitors. I absolutely can't wait!

[@LeadDispenser45]

A dumb ass troll! Samuels reviews are top notch and way up there with the best of them for quality data and examples... if you have haters means your doin it right homie! 👍🏼🙌🏼💪🏼

[@rayking3466]

Some guy that shoots Carbon Express and is pissed that even Sportsmans Warehouse won't buy and rebrand them.

[@LeadDispenser45]

@@rayking3466 🤣🤣

[@BassWhoopinFishingTeam]

I rock Gold Tip Hunter XT 300 spines with my HOYT REDWRX RX-3. I think they are pretty darn affordable when you buy in bulk. In my opinion there are a lot of good choices. Find what works for you and rock them. But like anything else, you get what you pay for. I don’t cheap out on arrows.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

You're completely right, it's all about finding what works for you and sticking with it. Thanks for watching!

[@mec5texan803]

Wow a very well put together video, and informative to boot. You just earned a subscription my friend... well done

[@twintwo1429]

I've never had any problems hunting or in 3D, and I've always used the cheapest arrows I can find, wood or aluminum from clearance sales, flea markets, yard sales, etc. I clean the shafts and rebuild them. I love it when I place at 3D, or take a deer with my $4 arrows. Yes, many people pay way to much for arrows of any kind these days. Too many of them on the used market, and straight is straight, no matter what its made of.

[@FrankPace54]

I would like to see a showdown on traditional arrows for recurved and hybrids bows 🎯

[@brianlapoint4945]

Your amazement on the results amuse me. You're obviously very good at archery and this was a great review. I don't know your backstory, but welcome to life like everyone else! Lol. Before the internet, we had to go from store to store, talking to tons of people, all of course, who had their own preference and expertise. We had to read magazines and in the end, just had to do a ton of trial and error. As far as the price vs quality? Yeah, your amazement is a result of namebranditis. Sure 100 for 6 better be damn great for that much. But the rest of us, the broke-ass masses that shoot at a homemade target in the backyard on the weekends, those 3-4 buck arrows do just fine.

[@thomaslenhart832]

I shoot the vendetta pro 350 grain and I love them, never tuned them and they fly amazing

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Those performed incredible on my tests! Great choice. Thanks for watching the video, I really appreciate it

[@thomaslenhart832]

Samuel White no problem keep up the good content and u sir need more subs for how good it is!!!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I'll keep at it! Thank you!

[@sharpenedtool]

Great video, keep up the great work! What data factors/parameters determined your star ratings. Also, did the labels on the boxes prove reasonably accurate to the arrows inside (.003” vs .001”). Look forward to seeing some shooting performance info as well.

[@interwebzful]

especially liked the side note about sample size. thanks. sincerely, a scientist

[@MasterBuckProducts]

That was a great comparison video, just goes to show that the FMJ’s I shoot are still the best arrows but you can get a quality arrow with the lesser brands and save a boat load of money. Great job. 👍🏹🦌

[@optimuscrime608]

john Buck FMJs are trash. They bend. Go test them after you shoot them for a day. Straightness is gone. Don’t believe me. Do it

[@MasterBuckProducts]

I’ve been using FMJ’s for 14 years and they are good for me, thanks. 👍🏹

[@optimuscrime608]

john Buck then don’t switch. But I’m telling you they aren’t even close to the best arrows

[@ThirdLawPair]

I would love to see you put those arrows in a shooting machine to see how your quality rating maps onto grouping size.

[@theamputeehunter2074]

Thanks for doing this video I’ve bought a dozen of the Scheels Vendetta Pro Arrows and thanks to this video I got some good arrows for cheap your awesome please keep up doing what your doing

[@6ffm9]

Fantastic report, great information... but only half of what is needed. As a traditional bowman using one piece bow, how can I tell if they function the same as using a compound?

[@kylebailey8498]

I really appreciate the videos I’m trying the vendetta pros out was gonna buy some victory rip but with this video something like the vendetta pros made by victory is right up my ally!! Thanks again

[@bornepatrol]

Victory VAPs I’ve tested with a RAM tester show very similar results. All come in under for straightness and spine deflection and weight tolerance in a pack was fantastic. The only issue I’d with buying dozens of sets over the years in the sports and elites we’ve found in pack variation is minimal. Between packs we could have a few grains variance on raw arrow weight at full length. But still all spine and straightness were great box to box

[@TheIngoBeck]

That's true. Victory's sorting is excellent. I've bought many dozens of Victory arrows and the weight consistency is always near perfect within a dozen but the packs have varied about 5 grains extreme spread. With built arrows I only end up with a .5-.75gr extreme spread in weight per matched dozen. I have found that V-force Gamers cut to my CTC length (28") have enough straighteness consistency to not have any visible wobble on an arrow spinner with a broadhead excepting maybe 1-2 culls per dozen. I cut from both ends.

[@benjamincooper8531]

I'm going to be using the victory rip gamers for hunting this year. I've been happy with them so far. Really all of the of the victory arrows I've tried have been great.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I definitely need to get those to compare to the Elites. I'm curious to see how much of a difference there would be. I wouldn't be surprised if they are close, if not just as good. Thanks for watching the videos Benjamin! I've been seeing your name in a lot of my posts, I really appreciate it.

[@benjamincooper8531]

The gamers really are hard to beat. Once I get them tuned to the bow they're capable of such good accuracy that I would have a hard time justifying the extra cost of the elites. Granted I'm not a professional shooter, just an enthusiast who tries to shoot like the pros by watching them a lot haha. Someone like yourself might notice a difference. And no problem! I really enjoy your content.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I'll see if I can get my hands on them to test! I respect what you're doing. That's how everybody starts, so keep at it, keep practicing, and keep testing, and you'll be there soon. Thanks for the consistent support Benjamin! Do you go by Ben?

[@benjamincooper8531]

@@SamuelWhiteArchery you're welcome! Yeah I normally go by Ben.

[@mrdbakk]

Great video. I'm new to archery so this kind of information is really helpful. I'm interested in the data however. How did you come to the star ratings from data, and what is the data you used? Do you have those data tables somewhere? Thanks again for a well done video.

[@chrispollock1826]

I would have liked to see how you went about getting the star rating, but overall great video! What do these numbers mean in the real world? Does a low score mean low accuracy at only long range? So many things to test!

[@calibowhunter1998]

I shot the blackout arrows for years before I decided to go with the FMJs. I killed plenty of deer and animals with the blackouts. And have killed a bucks with the FMJs now. I'm no professional Archer. However all the arrows work great. Shoot them and be confident with your equipment.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I think you got it exactly right. These arrows only vary in the thousandths, and it's unlikely that the majority of people would see much of a difference. But what it really comes down to is confidence in your equipment. Knowing your arrows are the best they can be can have a large effect on an archers mental game (which directly relates to their performance). Thanks for watching and for the great comment!

[@benjaminjacobson1826]

I shot fmj for about 3 years and i loved them but my local bow shop stopped carrying them so i tried some cheap arrows and they shot great but had horrible penetratetion compared to the fmj

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

That would be great if I could potentially do a penetration video far in the future and see how arrows compare!

[@angelduncan9147]

My husband and I just bought 2 dozen Sportsman's Warehouse Vital Impact arrows (a dozen in 300 and a dozen in 600) and just ONE vane out of all of these arrows has the Gold Tip logo stamped on it. Maybe that will help in the research of "who makes the Vital Impact"? We have been shooting VAP Gamers for about 2 years. My husband got tired of them bowing up in his PSE Evolve 35 despite the fact that he's got the correct spine (according to VAP!) And I just wanted a new "beater arrow" with a "normal" diameter shaft for local 3D stuff so that I wouldn't be so up tight about losing one on course. (we have a course designer who loves to set up "window shots" between tree branches or rock formations.) We have both been pleasantly surprised at how WELL these "cheap" arrows are performing! We are both getting very tight groupings out to 50 yards! (that's as far as we need to shoot for the local club comp).

[@ShockingTips]

Just ordered the vendetta pros for 35 (labor day sale) can't wait to see how the fly.

[@matthewfox3760]

Please extend this test to include mid priced arrow from major manufacturers

[@toddandangelbrowning2920]

I bought a dozen blackout envy 5. I have absolutely no problems or dislikes about them.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I'm definitely going to be testing the implications of these differences in quality, so look out for that future video. Thanks for watching!

[@dingonursery]

What are you specifically measuring to generate the scores? Super interesting, subscribed

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thanks Ted! I'm measuring everything I possibly can: 360 degree spine, straightness at multiple points, weight consistency, wall thickness etc. Thanks for watching

[@degoody]

Gold tip also makes the Vital Impact arrows for Sportsman's Warehouse

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thank you!

[@mikerocke5135]

Thanks for this dude! I’m struggling to find a good arrow that fits my budget

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Of course Mike! I'll have a ton more of these arrow reviews coming soon, so I hope they can help you out. Let me know if there are any arrows that you'd like to see. I'll see if I can potentially get my hands on them.

[@themasterhammer]

I have personally had much better luck hunting with with the FMJs over the Scheels Vendetta Pro. Might be a point difference between the two but beyond being able to hit a target the other important factor is what happens down range. Great vid!

[@5jjt]

How so? Can you please explain what you mean by that?

[@ObelixCMM]

Another budget/store arrow you didn't review is Gander Mountain TECHUNTER (.006") and TECHUNTER PRO (.003"). This is another re branded Victory V-Force arrow and can be found on E-Bay for $50-$60 for 12 arrows.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

What?! 50-60 for a dozen?!?!?!?! I'll look into it

[@ObelixCMM]

@@SamuelWhiteArchery here you go www.ebay.com/itm/1-DZ-VICTORY-V3-VFORCE-TECHUNTER-PRO-CARBON-AROWS-350-400-500/322990261184?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3Dd21d4506d0d04b2eaa626abaa740939b%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D322246448033%26itm%3D322990261184%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2060778&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507

[@ObelixCMM]

@@SamuelWhiteArchery and .006" at $46.99 for 12 arrows www.ebay.com/itm/1-DZ-VICTORY-VFORCE-TEC-HUNTER-CARBON-AROWS-400-INSERTS-AND-CUTTING/272877273688?hash=item3f88c0c258:m:mANojMitLUvnPD_Nf17G-fQ

[@rayking3466]

Sam, Gander closed here. thought they closed everywhere but evidently I was incorrect about that.

[@ObelixCMM]

@@rayking3466 they got bought out by Camping World and renamed to Gander Outdoors, you can find those arrows on Ebay

[@gregcandor2562]

Keep the videos coming, I’m enjoying!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Will do Greg! Thanks for watching

[@davidstonkus3288]

Excellent video. Very informative. Could you please do the same for crossbow bolts.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I've had a few people ask about crossbow bolts so that might be a future addition to the reviews! Thanks for watching David

[@davidstonkus3288]

@@SamuelWhiteArchery It's a pleasure to watch an in depth review of archery equipment. Nutnfancy covers many other outdoor gear in a similar fashion but has never touched archery gear. Thanks for filling the void.

[@Kylejohn33]

I was thinking the budget arrows you were going to test were the $2-$5 arrows from Walmart. I'd like to see results from them.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I'm on it ;)

[@clintdavis3165]

Yeah, test the poor boy specials from walmart

[@troywesterbur706]

I have been using gold tip hunters. My FMJ’s suck. I don’t trust them. I have broken them first shot in my 3d target. I know I got a bad batch but at that price I will never buy them again. So I have to say I am not surprised. Great video.

[@coreytaggart128]

While I get that most don't want all the numbers and math, it would be nice to know what went into each star rating and I think at one point you mentioned weighting values so to know how you did that.

[@mkvnwk]

Very well put together video with some interesting information. I've used the two Cabela's branded arrows exclusively since about 2012 and found both to be plenty accurate for my needs, though the carbon hunters seem to be less durable than the stalker extremes. I think any of today's bows matched with any carbon arrow of appropriate spine will be good enough for almost all hunting applications.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I think you're completely right! I'm curious to see the actual implications of the differences in quality. I'll hopefully be able to put together a test in the future and make a video about it, so look out for that. Thanks for watching!

[@RedRookChannel]

Great idea for a video, I would love to see more, but you didn't talk about the actual testing... You said that you checked for spine and straightness , did you measure for total weight? What is the "consistency" rating? and how did you get the total score? Honestly it would be much more clear if you'd given us the data

[@optimuscrime608]

Red Rook hence the reason it’s a 3 part series. Stay tuned

[@outbackarchery97]

Quick question, wouldn’t it have been more fair to perform your testing using the Easton FMJ 5mm Match Grade shaft instead of the standard FMJ? That way both arrows are 0.001 straightness? Not arguing with ya, I think it’s great people are doing these tests but was just a thought?

[@Cal_Sned6]

I love the cabela's stalker extreme

[@NightOfIDK]

Hi man great video and analysis. Am interested if you may share what was used to measure the spine rating. Was it variance in actual spine of the 6 arrows ? Or was it how closw was the measured spine of the arrows as compared to the labeled spine?

[@ObelixCMM]

Sam, you should make video explaining all parameters for ratings and refer to it in all subsequent videos, this way you get two views from one new video ;)

[@user-tz2dd6nb1i]

You should shoot the best arrow vs the worst arrow so we can see what the difference is down range.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

That's definitely on the to-do list! I'm curious to see the implications of the differences in quality as well. Thanks for watching!

[@cameronfarmer548]

Great video extremely informative. I'm very new to archery and bought a compound bow and interested in getting the scheels vendetta arrows. I'm wanting to know if they came with tips and wondering how to cut them to length as I believe they come at 31''. Thanks

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Hey Cameron, thank you! They didn't come with tips, and you could potentially get the arrows cut at a shot. To get the right spine, instead of cutting, you could adjust the point weight. My personal hunting arrows are full length (31"). Hope that helps! Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for watching

[@ponycentaur1456]

get some REAL budget arrows. The ones you buy from 'amazon' or 'wish' websites The kind that are less than 15 dollars for a pack, despite saying they can do better than brand arrows.

[@GrizzAxxemann]

Now THIS would be something I'd like to see. Those cheapie Chinesium arrows have me a little leery about them blowing up in my face. Kind of like the cheap Chinesium ammo that seems to be so popular when it's available in Canada.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I'm on it ;)

[@stoutlager6325]

That should make an interesting video as I expect the quality range to be pretty wide all at around same price. I have tried a set of Chinese made Amazon purchased discount carbon arrows, 400 spine for my 50# recurve. Result? The shafts were okay, straightness and weight consistent. Fletching awful, nocks fine (knockoff easton design), included target points also fine. The only thing strange I noticed about the shafts was the behaviour of the carbon when stripping off the stock fletching. It would comes off in long slivers sometimes when running a razor blade down the length of them. Name brand carbon arrows don't do that. No impact on performance from that though. Six months semi-daily use and I haven't snapped one yet.

[@mrwickairsoft6345]

I’ve used Carbon express, Kryptos by Allen, and Mossy Oak and their pretty good. I have several Easton super slam or super elite ones which are not bad.

[@TheRealElmoSkateTeam]

I know it's a 3 yr old video but vital impact is either gold tip or Easton depending on if it's sportsmans wear house or just vital impact

[@peterxyz3541]

Victory is Mitsubishi carbon, the very carbon tubes in golf clubs. My fav arrows will always be Victory & Easton. Also, I think WallyWorld arrows might be Victory contracted arrows….I don’t have confirmation.

[@MattMacKo]

I still have several Cabelas Stalker Extreme 55/70 2in Blazer Flights. I'm not sure i ever cut them. And they slap

[@gmshep717sdad]

Very professional! Excellent job

[@nathanpetersen6230]

Can you do a breakdown of victory arrows at different price points please 🙏

[@ravenshield56]

You sir are a fucking legend. Coming from the guitar world, we get 10000’s of ‘vs’ videos yet this community seems to be lacking from what I’ve seen. Keep it up Cheers mate!

[@mikewhitehead677]

I see you have a RAM spine tester. Can you do a in depth review of how to use it thoughly? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[@whitetailrealityoutdoors958]

You should do a score on Easton bloodline. I’ve been using these for years. I’d love to know how they fare.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I'll see if I can get my hands on them. Thanks for watching!

[@keithjones7754]

Where are you able to hunt with those? I can't meet minimum arrow weight in Washington with them. I have a 30" draw

[@usbsol]

@@keithjones7754 whats your minimum arrow weight? I have to hit mimimum 515grain with bloodlines, a 75gr insert and a 125 tip thats doable 🤗 I do run 30.5"arrows for my 30" draw though, so they are a bit long. My heavy set is Gold Tip Hunters 730gr - I can just keep stacking those inserts up indefinately 😇

[@ballzybaits4414]

I shot VAP V1 for 3d tournament... shoot v6 for hunting. Figured It didnt group different from the v1 so, i started to use v6 for tournament. Did as well as my v1.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I'm definitely going to be doing a test in the future to look at the implications of quality differences! I'm curious to see if what you found is true, because that could save people a LOT of money, including myself haha! Thanks for watching

[@ballzybaits4414]

@@SamuelWhiteArchery You should! itll be awesome to see the results!

[@wapitifit]

And to be fair the FMJ wasnt a match grade so the weights and straightness wouldn't be as on point as the victorys version of the match grade the "elite"

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Very true, I'll see if I can get my hands on the FMJ Match Grade soon!

[@Charlie_Bravo_Echo]

I just bought some sportsmen warehouse 300gr. so I stop breaking my gold tip hunter pro 300gr. . Those SW brand arrows were amazingly accurate and repeatable. 12=about 70 bucks,

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I was really surprised to see such a good performance from their store-brand arrows. I didn't expect a lot because the packaging and visual look of the arrows, but they sure taught me a lesson. Thanks for watching Chris!

[@optimuscrime608]

300 spine, not grain

[@Charlie_Bravo_Echo]

@@optimuscrime608 yes, I misspoke. Thank you.

[@islandpainter3964]

I found a fantastic chinese supplier who has very good ratings on ali Express. I brought a dozen for $30. Free shipping as well!. So to be fair i wasnt expecting much but these things shot as good as my easton axis. Made me wake up to the cost of labour and marketing.. Im going back for more cause i don't cry when i lose em anymore.

[@jameseveritts8113]

So now who are you and whst are your qualifications to judge any of the arrow companies arrows

[@judefuselier]

Great Review!

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

Thanks Jude! And in response to your other comment, I just recently posted a video with some Gold Tip arrows. The next reviews are going to have plenty of them as well. Thanks for watching!

[@Riec39]

I wonder how durability might play into this analysis. Great review though, thank you.

[@loganbridges3240]

Victory makes a carbon aluminum hybrid arrow as well, not just easton, called the xtorsion

[@donkeykong2087]

The only thing you didnt mention is the diameter of the fmj and the vap, that equates to a better arrow, because it is going to penetrate better in a hunting situation. And should hypothetically fly better as well. And Easton arrows are American made.

[@SamuelWhiteArchery]

I'm definitely going to be testing those factors in the future! Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.

[@DirtNapCity93]

What about arrow rest? I'm new to bow hunting and would love to see results of alot of different accessories

[@shanerhodes925]

But I am loking more for penetration I hunt I n the northeast and shots range from 15 to 30 yards. I shoot rage broadheads and in the past have had trouble putting the arrows syraigt through with cheaper arrows. I switched to fmj am seems to work well but I wouldnt mind something a little cheaper that would work avour the same. But I kmow its hard because you get what you pay for. Cheaper usually meams cut corners. But any thoughta on this would be great. Thanks

[@jwatson15]

I've just started getting into archery and I've looked up how to make my own arrows. So my homemade arrows cost... $.25 a spoon. $1 for a 4pack. $.65 for a wooden dowel. $.10-.15 worth of duct tape. So my homemade arrows are roughly $1 an arrow. Which helps a lot since the cheapest arrow at my Wal-Mart is $4 and has no tip on it so that's another $3 for a pack.

[@a.d.knives7250]

Please don't shoot your arrows in a compound bow.

[@jwatson15]

@@a.d.knives7250 no worries. I have 2 bows. A compound my great uncle gave me, and an old recurve bow. For my compound I'll get some cheaper Wal-Mart arrows.