I replaced my Hardcore Evo (Evo vs Helios: Don't Make This Mistake)

[@TiagoInlineSkater]

Glad you sorted that issue! you're right; these skates are AWESOME! ( but I'm enjoying them more with a 4 x 76 mm rockered setup; it's simply amazing!)

[@stanleychengchen]

Hello Tiago, I am a fan of your work. What frame (type and size) do you use for your 4 X 76mm rocketed setup? I know you have a smaller skate, if I get the size 41 or 42 HC Evo, what 4 wheel setup would you recommend? I feel 3 wheel 225 frame is too short for me if I like Urban skating. Looking forward seeing your reply or any reply really.

[@TiagoInlineSkater]

Stan from Melbourne Hi! for these skates I'm using the Pro-R frames in 231mm that I left in their rockered position; and for the wheels; I don't know, depends on your likings; do you like hard wheels? mediums, softs? I personally like medium and hard wheels since I like to slide a bit. for the moment I'm using the Seba street invaders, but I'm thinking on getting some Undercover wheels :)

[@stanleychengchen]

@@TiagoInlineSkater thanks for the reply Tiago. I have used street invaders and like you I like to slide (at least trying to) I've heard good things about UC wheels which is more long lasting, no personal experience at the moment. Maybe wheel comparison will be a good video topics for the future.

[@DeezSkates]

Tiago, I am eyeing the 4x80mm frame and plan to get it eventually. I like the speed of the 3x90, and it deals with the rough ground well, but 4x80 feels better in my drills.

[@JakeyDill]

Deez Skates given you have a larger foot I agree the 4x80 will do you well. 4 wheels feel better in my skating to, 3 wheels always felt unnatural.

[@rollingdubaiguy6415]

Thanks for this update and size review. Glad you got it sorted out and sorry that you had to go through the pain and discomfort to get to this point. But your experience will help others. I am looking at getting a Powerslide Hockey skate as well as possibly the Tau in the near future. I am now realizing that one size bigger for the Tau will be a good idea based on their size charts and your insight about the thinner insides of a hockey skate. I skate Bauers for ice and inline hockey. Thanks again!

[@heigolepla]

Awesome, these are in my wishlist and got a little worried when I saw your headline, thinking that you replaced them with something else. Feedback on the video 1) I would say no to the backdrop. Some random out of focus appartment interior gives more deapth to the video. 2) light is too in your face. Thry googling 3-point lighting - you can do this with home items. The ending is COOL, music and everything.

[@DeezSkates]

White Hat Videos Yeah I’m still getting used to the specific light I’m using. I was overexposed a bit and that’s difficult to correct once it’s done. 🤷‍♂️

[@juggerneezy]

I've been eyeing these skates for a long time, but I've been worried about this exact thing happening to me and blowing a bunch of money. Good skates aren't cheap, and with everything closed and not being able to try them on before buying them, it adds an extra level of uncertainty. This video was just what I needed to confirm that I am also a 42 EU. I'm definitely more confident in my decision now. Thanks man.

[@juansebastianrueda7650]

Thanks for the video, man. I ordered these in size 42 and, although they fit great around my foot and toes, there is a sharp pressure point in my ankle region, more specifically my medial malleolus. Do you think heat molding and spot-specific heat gun treatment would help mold that out, or would you recommend getting the 43? I feel you on the cuff having a lot of padding. Thank you!

[@DeezSkates]

I would not go up if the fit is right over a pressure point. This sounds to me like you just need to break in the skates. Heat molding may help with this, combined with time in them. Wear thin socks to minimize rubbing.

[@juansebastianrueda7650]

@@DeezSkates thank you, man

[@MattGriffo]

I did the same exact thing. I used the measure guide and bought the size 41 and then had to switch them with a size 42 for Powerslide Kaze skates

[@MattGriffo]

What size shoe are you normally? I’m a US size 9

[@hafsaaamer6612]

if 8.5 us size is my feet size, what size would fit me?

[@hafsaaamer6612]

@@MattGriffo .

[@MattGriffo]

@@hafsaaamer6612 I would go with a EU43 or EU42. I’m thinking EU42 but 43 to be safe. I’m a size 9 in US and I’m definitely a size EU43

[@hafsaaamer6612]

Did you change the size?

[@Sk8london]

Getting the size right can be expensive and painful in many ways. I’m currently nursing my blisters breaking in the Arise SL. They are amazing but I’ve never had bigger blisters. No pain no gain? Thanks for great upload, keep rolling bro!

[@Johro66]

Love the look of those Evo's. The Helios too. By the way, your skating is awesome I wish I was half as good ha..

[@DeezSkates]

Thanks, Johro! I’m working on some tutorials right now!

[@Johro66]

@@DeezSkates looking forward to it!

[@foolsquirrel]

Great video on the HC Evo sizing! Do you find that you have too much toe room in the 42 on the right, since the 41 was long enough for your right foot? I'm debating between sizes 40 and 41. I think I'm on the border between the two sizes (foot 255mm). If you don't think having a little bit of more room (1 size bigger than a tight fit lengthwise) is too big a problem, I'll probably go with the 41. Thanks.

[@DeezSkates]

The 42 is a perfect fit for me. Most skates I wear a 42, but it was just the hockey skates that sized differently.

[@foolsquirrel]

@@DeezSkates Thanks for the reply! It helped with my deciding which size to order. Great channel with inspiration and information. I just subbed. Keep up the good work!

[@MalcolmEmani]

Hi. I really enjoy your skating content. It's appealing that you use so many styles of skates, and have a question that I think you'll have great insight on. I am a freestyle skater and I want to get more into slalom technique. I skate with powerslide imperial supercruisers 110mm red viper with their original factory setup. I've rockered my wheels for more manuverability but I think it's time to upgrade. Do you recommend a whole other boot for more stability or do you think just changing the frame could be enough? Something tells me that choosing a freeskate boot will change my whole game up. Thanks in advance Emani

[@DeezSkates]

It really depends on what your current setup is. Sometimes upgrading the frame can help a lot, but with inline skates the boot has a huge bearing on your power transfer. If you’re ready to spend the money and want to upgrade into a Carbon slalom skate I definitely recommend going to something like the Hardcore Evo, Seba High Carbon, Seba iGor, etc.. Plastic skates with liners are always comfortable and if you have the right one you may feel that’s enough, but stiffer carbon boots with the right frame are always going to be more responsive. And personally I’ve had nothing but good experiences with my Evos. They’re very comfortable, in spite of how stiff they are.

[@chanich11]

Hi Dave, I just got mine Evos, I followed the chart, my right foot is 250, so I got eu40 pr 7us which is 257 cm long, I feel my front toe touching the boot but it's not uncomfortable, however the forefoot around toes widthwise feels tight. I am concerned if I go to size 41 of 7.5 which is 164 cm in might have too much room in front, is that an issue? Your thoughts, should I go half size bigger? I am not skating streets yet in order to be able to return skates.

[@DeezSkates]

It’s hard to say without being there in person, but one thing to keep in mind is that Powerslide notoriously has more narrow skates than other manufacturers, so it’s possible that going a half size up might solve the problem, but if it makes the skate too long that will present its own problems. IMO, you should be open to the possibility that this Skate’s design will not work for the shape of your foot.

[@ryakuss1987]

This is whats holding me back from expensive skates, just out of curiosity what size shoe do you wear? Im measured 267 mm and wear a 41 in birkenstocks, but 10 in running shoes and 10.5 in regular shoes, most size us 10s are tight! Buying a 7.5 or 8 seems like theres no way lol

[@DeezSkates]

Size numbers are so subjective that they’re essentially useless in skating. I wear a 8.5-9 in shoes… usually. But I have a pair of old Seba FRX that are 10.5. A HC Evo that is a 8.5. Rollerblade crossfire that’s a 9. My ice figure skates are an 8 wide.. And in hockey skates in both Bauer and CCM I wear a 7. The answer for sizing is to know your measurements and buy the size that the sizing chart for that exact skate recommends, no matter what the numbered size is. Personally, I’m a bit skeptical that your measurements are correct. My left foot is like 268 and my right is 265 and there is no tennis shoe I could wear above a size 9.

[@ryakuss1987]

@DeezSkates Weird, yeah I measured like 4 times now different tape measured up against the wall and not and keep coming g up with the same thing. The birkenstock I figured out that the back of my heal hangs out over the foot bed so that explains that. Guess I'll roll the dice and hope I can return. Pulling the trigger on some FR1 with the intuitions. Their guide says I should get a 42, fingers crossed 🤞

[@DeezSkates]

If you’re 267mm that sounds right. I wear a 42 EU size in just about every inline I have ever used. I find EU sizing to be a bit more consistent than American sizing.

[@Keepit-nq3id]

HC Evo 90 is the best skate I've tried for slalom , the trinity mount and short frame ❤

[@MazingerZX]

Great sizing tips! What size do you wear on the seba?

[@DeezSkates]

I have a pair of High Lights that are 42 and a pair of the old Seba FRX that are 41.

[@PavloMyronov]

Today on the powerslide website the mondo for EU41 is 261mm and for EU42 is 268. I doubt they modified the shell so I believe the info you relied on was incorrect. Also, Helios is made from "compression-molded carbon composite" and not the same carbon as evos. Don't know the difference, Reddit says that it is thinner and more flexible than regular carbon. Anyway, great video!

[@AlmostLakai94]

I know everyone's feet are different but assuming they're normal width do you think I could fit in a 41 with a 26cm bigger foot? Looking into these in the future 😬

[@AyoMrB]

I got a pair of 41 HC Evo's and they were too small for me too. I have 265/267mm length and it felt like my big toes were getting crushed. I think I needed a 42 as well. Had to send them back anyways because they came with a stripped cuff bolt. Glad you could finally find the size you need, its definitely a process :P

[@DeezSkates]

BOPP3D, did you get a replacement? Interested to know how you fit a size 42.

[@barryheath882]

Hey David , after watching this video, I have a question for you as my Hardcore Evos have just arrived today. I bought them in size EUR 41 and lengthwise they fit well. However they are a bit tight width wise as my feet press into the sides of the skates and my foot has gone a little bit numb a few times. Do you think this is something that can just be fixed with heat moulding or would I have to size up? I’d like to think it will get better after going in the oven. Obviously I want a good snug fit so I’m hesitant about sizing up. Thanks

[@DeezSkates]

It may help, but there is no guarantee. My philosophy is that if the skate fits for length, but not width, you cannot go up a size to make it fit because it will then be too long. It’s possible the last this skate is created on if very different from your foot. It’s also possible that you can heat mold to solve the problem. You’ll never know until you try.

[@barryheath882]

Deez Skates hmmm yeah I really hope heat moulding will do the trick. My foot isn’t extremely uncomfortable or in extreme pain when in the boot, but then again I haven’t done a proper session in them. Anyway thanks for you help.

[@barryheath882]

Just wanted to update you: I heatmolded them and they definitely feel better! Still quite tight widthwise but nothing painful, just a snug fit. Really love the skates!

[@MrJetanaipe]

Hi Barry and David, I want to order these skates. I have a narrow feet 257mm long. PS size charts variantes online. So can you look at your 41 label and let me know how many feet length it is? I’m not sure whether to order a 40 or 41. I was told I should order these skates not too big if I want to get nice power transfer, and as they heat mold. Thanks for the help!

[@MrJetanaipe]

@@barryheath882 thanks. Can you please tell me the feet length noted on the label of your 41?

[@JakeyDill]

Thank you for sharing mate! Certainly a little misleading by Powerslide to have measurements that are slightly off.

[@DeezSkates]

It was definitely a disappointing experience, but I learned a lot from it.

[@JakeyDill]

@@DeezSkates on the upside, you now have perfect fitting Evo pro's

[@DeezSkates]

Absolutely! AND I ended up selling the size 41 boots to someone who had the same problem as me with a size 40.

[@Gamenomaly]

So you just got a bigger boot to fit the skates. I have PS Tau, size 46 (my foot is usually 47) and i feel the same about them as you said in the begining. What's the biggest size they make you ask? It is 46... You got luckier than me. Anyway Good video :)

[@DeezSkates]

That sucks! So sorry to hear that was your experience!

[@joeschmo2693]

Can't do it now (money), but I'm for sure going to get a pair of PS hockey skates one of these days. Where can you get them online in the U.S.?

[@DeezSkates]

Hey, Joe! I ordered mine from inline warehouse, but that’s been a year so I’m not sure which models of the Reign skate they have.

[@ShivSilverhawk]

Hey! I commend your passion for skating! Really cool videos! I recently bought a pair of Powerslide Kaze supercruizer 110. When I first put them on, I also thought they were really narrow, and my toes were going dead. On the last session I tried wearing thinner socks, and my god: did it make a difference! It's amazing how well they fit without buckling them too hard, but they need to be tightened a bit after about 30 minutes of use. Switching from Rollerblade twisters is like night and day!

[@PeckoBre]

What size boot did you buy and what size twisters did you have? I'm going to make the same purchase but can't decide on size.

[@ShivSilverhawk]

PeckoBre hey! Sorry for the late reply. I get all my skates the same size as my shoes, which is uk size 10, eu 44,5. The twisters were the same size as the powerslides. I can feel that the liner less powerslides are narrower and more snug in general, but they give me more control.

[@PeckoBre]

@@ShivSilverhawk great, I just ordered the same size as twisters the other day after measuring my feet and comparing to powerslide chart. Now just gotta wait for them to arrive. :)

[@ToniStile]

@@PeckoBre Hello, how was the fit compared to the twister? thank's a lot!

[@PeckoBre]

@@ToniStile At first they seemed tighter around toe area but that changed after heat molding. However length wise they might be just slightly longer which gave me heel lift so I need to use booties or thicker socks. Also laces are too short and cheap so get some nice waxed pair for your skates it makes a huge difference. 45 degree buckle is useless in my opinion as with good laces you simply don't need it, unless you want to keep it for style, but in that case just get strap it looks better.

[@nahumcantallops9125]

Hey, did you sell them already? I'm interested to buy them.

[@kchappelle]

Hey Dave, did the sale of the skates go through okay?

[@DeezSkates]

Yup!

[@stanleychengchen]

I consider my feet slightly wide and 260mm long for both. I fit perfectly in Seba High Light 41. Any idea if I will fit in Hardcore Evo size 41? If not wide enough at forefoot, can heat molding make the skate wider?

[@DeezSkates]

Stan from Melbourne I would assume yes? My right foot is 261mm and the length was fine. Problem for me was the width in that foot.

[@DisneyYH]

I got my evos yesterday, and would say that my feet length is similar to yours. L265 and R266cm I tried the Size 41 and my toes were cramped in slightly that it hurt... So what i did was to get a size bigger and yea it felt so much comfortable, i didnt even need to heat mould it and i still have about 3 to 4 cm of ample space at the front of the skate. Do u think it was the right decision?

[@klisher]

you need to teach some of those moves from the end of this video. that powerslide into fakee roll or whatever you call it right at the end. brilliant. all the best..

[@DeezSkates]

I’ve got more tutorials coming!

[@klisher]

@@DeezSkates good, you make excellent tutorials. all the best

[@Lgn26point2]

I am wanting to order the same boots in 42 without risk. Could you please tell me where to order these from?

[@DeezSkates]

Joseph, I ordered these from inlineware.com because all their items come with a return shipping slip so you can return any unused item you don’t want for no extra charge to you. That way any time I order from them I can try on the skates and send them back if they don’t fit, as long as I don’t go use them.

[@brocmt]

I'm a 9.5US, so those would be a bit small for me, but good luck! I'm sure you'll find a buyer. Are you familiar with reddit's rollerblading subreddit? There's also the Blade Trade Outpost facebook group as well.

[@StillAliveAndKicking_]

I don’t suppose you know your foot width? I’m considering the Reign Helios, my right foot is 262 by 105 mm, left is 258 by 100 mm, wide forefoot, average heel, very thin leg. So like you I should be a Euro 41. But I have to order online, and Powerslide can fit narrow. I am thinking about the Helios or the Powerslide Zoom Pro 100 which has a slightly longer frame (230mm vs 215mm) and a much more padded boot.

[@DeezSkates]

Leif Goodwin Left foot 95mm. Right foot 100mm. Width. And the length is 265 left, 261 right. Size 41 is too tight for my right foot and too short for my left in Powerslide skates.

[@StillAliveAndKicking_]

Deez Skates Thanks David, it sounds like the Helios will probably be too narrow or borderline.👍🏻

[@DeezSkates]

Leif Goodwin Yes. I was never able to get the Helios to not hurt my right foot. The length on it was okay because of the thin liner, but I eventually stopped using them because I would constantly have to remove them to alleviate the pressure, even after multiple heat moldings and over 100 hours in them.

[@StillAliveAndKicking_]

Deez Skates Did you try stretching the problem area? A heat gun used carefully and a screwdriver handle to press out the shell. (I accept no responsibility for ruined skates ... 🤣)

[@DeezSkates]

Haha. I did not try it. I figure if nothing else I can at least sell the boots possibly. Don’t want to ruin them.

[@jennstuition]

Where did you learn skating from?

[@DeezSkates]

I grew up skating as a child and have been learning on my own most of my life. I have had a few different teachers along the way, read books about skating technique, and even learned from other KZbinrs who make tutorials (even some who have been skating a way shorter time than me ;)

[@jtgylland5053]

@Deez Skates I am torn between these and the Reign hockey skates. I just want a nice pair of inlines for all around outdoor cruising. I'm an ice hockey player but am open to trying non-hockey skates. Having experience with both the evo and the reign skates, I was wondering which ones you preferred.

[@robsthedon]

Nice upload man

[@caio22rocha]

Thanks, I think in the future I will buy this boot. I'm now using Kaze supercruise I realy like them.

[@jscamry]

Hello Caio, how are the Kaze boots? I am looking to them out. Have you had any fitment issues? Thanks

[@caio22rocha]

Jason Ifill the boots are excellent but I really advise to buy the ”trinity stride control” together, because in the shell there are a few spaces to adjust the frame in case you have pronation. I was using 110mm wheels. (Supercruise version). And now I’m using 125mm with torrent wheels because it rains a lot in Ireland haha. With both setup the boots are amazing. Just remember to measure well your fret before buy. In the powerslide Kaze SC page, they have a lot of tips on how to measure your feet.

[@laparella12]

Can i use 3x110 frame?

[@selax9397]

It happened to me too. I bought a 43 size pair because the local retailer said that I needed 1 size more than I have (42). So, they arrived and I felt 2 pressure points on the sole and I felt like they are a little bigger but I thought it was just because I haven't heat-moulded them yet. Well it wasn't and I was stuck with a bigger size. Now I was wondering, should I buy a smaller size or a new type of skates? After watching this video I think I will buy the 42 size boots and sell my current boots. It would have been great if I had watched this video 1 month ago 😆

[@manuelortega5035]

Hi. May i know how long your feets are? Im waiting for arrival of EVO pair, size 43. my feets 27.5 cm both. (im anomaly here lol)

[@selax9397]

@@manuelortega5035 Hey! I think they will fit you. My foot size is somewhere near 27 cm and the line size is 27.8 cm. You will still have 0.3 cm of space :) (at least theoretically :D)

[@manuelortega5035]

@@selax9397 Fingers crossed :) Im still waiting for delivery, will refer here for others.

[@manuelortega5035]

Ok i got EVOs size 43 and they fit perfectly! Tight a bit, very, very little. Not sure about owen yet. I guess its good, as new pair needs and will wears a bit inside. So, if you guys have foot 27.5 cm size 43 is golden!

[@selax9397]

@@manuelortega5035 Cool man! I think after heat moulding them, you will have no problem :) Also, after you wear them for a while! They way you lace them to get the best performance out of them will come in time (at least in my case).

[@ksam1313]

Do you like the Helios or the Evo better?

[@DeezSkates]

I’d say the Evo is more adaptable and versatile. The Helios is great for flat ground that’s fairly smooth. Lots of speed and more power transfer, but it doesn’t feel great through the city, imo. I skate my Evos a lot more than the Helios these days.

[@scruffyblader8717]

I have the same problem with my HC Evos. I got EU 43, but the tightness and discomfort tell me I need EU 44. I will do the same deal if anyone is interested. $200 boot only, shipped at your cost. Mine have about 8 of hrs of usage. Send me a private message.

[@1985o]

Hi! do you still have the skates? I'm Interested

[@scruffyblader8717]

@@1985o wow, I forgot about this comment. I sometime actually just bought these last month on eBay.

[@kchappelle]

Hi Dave, I sent you an email. Thanks Ken.

[@bolillo222]

how tall are you ??? also i sen you a message

[@DeezSkates]

bolillo222 I am 5’ 8” tall!