The City of San Diego is now requiring luxury picnic businesses to apply for permits before setting up events on the sand.
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@CozyBear_293 ай бұрын
It’s public property. Not for commercial businesses.
@lithium256933 ай бұрын
should people not be allowed to rent kayaks or canoes on public lakes?
@phant0m2333 ай бұрын
Yep. That's exactly what came to mind within the first few seconds of watching this video.
@mileshamblen99823 ай бұрын
It's God's land not the greedy people in Government who think they own everything...
@carpballet3 ай бұрын
Jesus h Christ dude that’s a an ignorant comment. Commercial businesses use public property all the time.
@isocarboxazid3 ай бұрын
@@mileshamblen9982God isn't real, but thanks for showing us how out of touch with reality you actually are.
@13601chas3 ай бұрын
It’s taxpayer funded public land, so the permit process for this and other private activities is fair.
@JoshuaW4Jesus3 ай бұрын
So when you pitch a tent at the beach you think it’s fair that the police come tell you take it down? Thats honestly what it is.. How is it fair?!! They are not selling anything at a stand.. They make luxury tents at the beach and then take it down.. What is the issue.. PS THEY ARE TAX PAYERS OF THAT LAND!!! They are from San Diego duh!!!
@mossterlive3 ай бұрын
If ya’ll can’t afford luxury picnics just say that
@JoshuaW4Jesus3 ай бұрын
@protosparadiso_ How about this duche.. They went to the court to do what you said.. Maybe you didn't watch the video.. But they said they are making them get a permit each day to run their business.. Do you think that's fair? Do they do that to your business? Hating on anyone's hustle is some hater shit.. I'm a real estate investor, so I don't see the problem with a person being their own boss no matter what the occupation.. Show support or just be a hater.. Your Choice..
@FatLu-zu2fb3 ай бұрын
Democrats telling people, what they can do. Fact!
@JoshuaW4Jesus3 ай бұрын
@@protosparadiso_ So injustice is how you deal with the process.. Just shows how you are a coward.. David was a little boy when he took down Goliath.. Age ain’t the problem.. It’s Blatant corruption and cowardice from others that don’t help the cause anyway.. This also shows how you have no empathy.. How old do you get when start losing feelings? You must be at that age I’m guessing..
@bekkibuenviaje96803 ай бұрын
I have worked as a photographer off and on for years. Photographers who do photo shoots for clients in public parks have to apply for a permit and pay a fee. You are using taxpayer space for your business and that means it can’t be enjoyed by the public for whom it’s meant. It’s like using someone’s yard without asking. They have to control the number of times it is happening so the public can still have access.
@ABearWithHats3 ай бұрын
I mean you don't have to if they don't stop you
@Masterslessons3 ай бұрын
Soon only people with certain social or credit scores will be allowed to be at the beach.
@gpk19823 ай бұрын
I was not understanding some of the other comments but yours actually makes sense. Thank you. ☺️
@jessice2932 ай бұрын
This is actually logical
@Borderlands8082 ай бұрын
Someone’s yard is private property. Not public. 🤦🏽♂️🤣😂 it’s all about money, bottom line. Nothing else.
@wenerjy3 ай бұрын
Honestly, the fact that the city actually went through the legal steps to create permits for these businesses makes the city council seam quite level-headed and accommodating.
@Ap_twsh3 ай бұрын
yet these woman are still arguing for more and complaining about paying fee
@Masterslessons3 ай бұрын
San Diego is legit just don't piss them off
@Joy-rh8cg3 ай бұрын
If this is on their list of priorities considering the homeless rate, then we are screwed.
@Masterslessons3 ай бұрын
@@Joy-rh8cg yes
@wenerjy3 ай бұрын
@@Joy-rh8cg Homelessness can no longer be solved at the local or state level in my opinion. The current homelessness crisis in California can be traced all the way back to Reagan as governor, when he decided to shut down a lot of state-funded hospitals that treated mental health patients in order to fund tax cuts. He also backed Prop 13 which reduced property taxes, leading to local budget shortfalls across the state, while perpetually inflating home prices.
@abelcazadores23303 ай бұрын
That’s everyone’s PUBLIC beach. If you want to run a business on it, PUSHING OUT FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS WHO ALSO WANT TO USE IT, get a permit. Welcome to the real world.
@liabw053 ай бұрын
How are they pushing out others? Isn’t the beach big enough?
@meniacalone25513 ай бұрын
ahhh shut up!!!
@user-hr1yw3zu7k3 ай бұрын
@@liabw05i read alot of the comments, your only one defending them. Let me guess , you must be the “CEO” of a luxury picnic business.
@chriscalderin66773 ай бұрын
It is the public using public property and hiring help you must have voted brandon
@tedgerstenslager29493 ай бұрын
Bullshit. Everybody's beach or park. She pays taxes also. "permit" just another money grab. "pushing out families" you are whacked.
@ttinnovations33103 ай бұрын
bro, that is a public space for public use, I wish I could pitch a tent and have my office there rent free
@rnettles62413 ай бұрын
Many people do exactly that.
@popsinthekeys43203 ай бұрын
Their customers are members of the public.
@tl15333 ай бұрын
@@popsinthekeys4320 Try different argument. This does not work or make sense.
@F4fantasticfrank3 ай бұрын
They ARE the public. Sounds like you're just jealous of people having fun
@danscorner14433 ай бұрын
Public space doesn't freely exists, it has to be maintained, cleaned, secured, renovated, etc. In addition, if one person could use it for personal business, then EVERYBODY could also use it for personal business.
@izi51503 ай бұрын
You would think that she could understand what the issue is when she said, “there are hundreds…”
@B-RaDD3 ай бұрын
🤣😂🤣 didn't think of that. It hit me when she said it but your right she should've paused on camera mid sentence and turned around and stared out into the ocean turned around back to the camera and said "something's gotta change"
@theaquariancontrarian33163 ай бұрын
They are public parks not meant for business.
@oldsaerotech11673 ай бұрын
For real. Set up a tailgate business out in the parking lot, catching beachgoers and see how that plays out. No right-minded legal team would argue that. ( They'd take your money, but wouldn't be able to successfully argue the point).
@stephanieinthewild26782 ай бұрын
Actually it is an event business. The same as party rental businesses that set up jumpers, popcorn machines etc at public parks. All they require is a permit.
@alohalaniboido80833 ай бұрын
People who defend their illegal business on the grounds that it makes them money...how is this a defense? They are using public property to run an illegal business.
@kailaniandi3 ай бұрын
Probably tax free
@huskydadtokoda3 ай бұрын
Karens. always in the right no matter how wrong it is
@kellimoorer90323 ай бұрын
Right on darling 😊
@primotote3 ай бұрын
Maybe took a clue from taco stands and hot dog vendors
@kailaniandi3 ай бұрын
@@primotote most pay rent, or apply for a vendor license. Plenty have support from the community. These people are blow-ins taking from the community they don't seem to be part of. Notice there was only a few pictured here in the video. Street vendors are awesome in some places. Takers not so much
@78cunobelin3 ай бұрын
Their complaint comes down to "we should be able to stake-out prime spots in public parks and beaches whenever we want and keep others from those areas for an indeterminate amount of time, and we should be able to profit off of this". Sorry, girls. Go figure it out.
@handyhistorian3 ай бұрын
Exactly. There are tons of private properties up and down the coast. Find someone who would be willing to rent out their lawn for a few hours on a regular basis. Not only does it give you consistent locations but saves the hassle and rudeness to others of going early in the morning to "save" the prime beach spots for themselves. If there's enough demand for hundreds of these businesses then people will be willing to pay for the added privacy of a private property instead of public beach. Nothing stopping you from walking down to dip your toes in the sand and water without having to plop a sultan's tent eyesore in front of everyone!
@deeprollingriver523 ай бұрын
But families stake out prime spots, put down picnic blankets and expect others to stay away.
@jaybee57743 ай бұрын
@@deeprollingriver52they're not getting paid tho stupid
@firehehe23 ай бұрын
@@deeprollingriver52 Right, and it’s bad enough that we have to compete with each other for those few prime spots. Now we’re supposed to just step aside for these two ladies?
@The40Glock13 ай бұрын
@@deeprollingriver52use your brain
@hannahkushan1753 ай бұрын
Well Turning public places into banquet halls needs permits 🤣
@proofpositive23793 ай бұрын
so glad these business are getting closed down. they close off large sections of the beach so you can't share the area, and they are their all day camping the best spots at the beach.
@imsleepingbeauty3 ай бұрын
I mean, those tents are kinda obnoxious. If you're impeeding public beaches or distracting life guards, they should be shut down.
@MrWaterbugdesign3 ай бұрын
They're also preparing food to sell without health department permits. Many people aren't keen on puking for a few days so the city kind of likes venders to pass a test on basic food safety.
@huskydadtokoda3 ай бұрын
@@MrWaterbugdesign and serving alcohol
@imsleepingbeauty3 ай бұрын
@MrWaterbugdesign I wish they cared about that where I live. People come out at night setting up pop-up shops from the trunks of cars and set up tents every so many blocks. Unrefrigerated food and lots of meat. It just screams e-coli 🤮 City won't do anything to stop them.
@noble6043 ай бұрын
Please know PublicBeach Brittany would have called 911 12 thousand times on this a long time ago of this wasn’t them doing it.😑
@michaelboykin98813 ай бұрын
I saw no beach nor lifeguard. You just make it up. Childish.
@dmtien3 ай бұрын
It's simple: beaches and parks are public property, paid for by the residents and maintained by the city. You do not have the inherent right to take up space away from others for private purposes, (especially commercial ventures) unless you compensate the public for the use, or come to an arrangement with the city such that your use doesn't impact others. If you let this go on long enough and these people begin to think that they're entitled to use the beach at the expense of others without paying rent.
@bettiraige34743 ай бұрын
Are not the people having the picnic also part of the community and the general public? Why are they not allowed to eat on a pretty table? You people pick the stupidest shit to be mad about.
@dmtien3 ай бұрын
@@bettiraige3474People from the public wanting to have the picnic are perfectly free to find an open spot the day of, or reserve some space through the city park services as is usually the case if they're throwing a birthday party or some family gathering. In most cases (groups under 50 people), that part is and should be free of charge (or a nominal fee if space is to be reserved exclusively), since the park is a public resource. They are then free to rent or hire someone to bring tables and whatnot. What is not allowed is for a private business to take up public space at the expense of the public and turn around and charge people for the use. That space was to be made available to the public for free or nearly free. These people have turned a public resource into an exclusive private good without compensating the public. They could have legally charged money to bring the tables and foodstuffs as a catering service, but they cannot make money by taking up public space and charging people the rent as if they owned it. That section of park belongs to the public who shouldn't have to pay to use it.
@xx_Joker_xx3 ай бұрын
@@bettiraige3474 I don't think anyone is mad. But these commercial ventures do not have exclusive use of public property. Also, if something happened, someone got hurt, the city would be held responsible. Do these business ventures have liability insurance for what they are doing?
@Mike__B3 ай бұрын
@@xx_Joker_xx Is what they're doing any different then a family who sets up some table cloths on picnic tables, or blankets on a beach, for their kid's party and "reserves" an area until the rest of the guests show up? Is that family required to have liability insurance for their party? I mean I understand if these private companies are roping off areas and not allowing anyone to walk through or anything like that. But paying person to essentially cater for an outing/party doesn't seem that different than individuals doing the same thing just not paying anyone for it.
@Vortex26543 ай бұрын
@@Mike__B A family who sets up some tablecloths on picnic tables, or blankets on a beach, for the most part does not do it daily or consistently, nor take public space to make money for themselves. That's the difference!
@MortgageEasy3 ай бұрын
How can these business owners think it's ok for them to use public land for profit? And exclude others from using said land? They would have to block it off from others so that it's open when they want it, right? Anyway get licensed or permitted like the rest of us business owners do.
@billybob23723 ай бұрын
Another example of a generation that feels entitled. Their only argument in the reporting is "this is MY livelihood, this is how I feed MY family"
@DKP30003 ай бұрын
Everyone has to follow the rules. Public space is for everyone, not just you and your clients
@bodyzoasispersonaltraining91863 ай бұрын
Since they are the public they should be good then
@sanchezs76143 ай бұрын
What about the homeless who take all the space?
@bodyzoasispersonaltraining91863 ай бұрын
@@sanchezs7614 where else can they sleep, shit , do meth and have a psychosis. Cmon bud we all a spot like that too 😂
@sanchezs76143 ай бұрын
@@bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186 They can sleep at the mayors office or the white house
@bodyzoasispersonaltraining91863 ай бұрын
@@sanchezs7614 lgb
@pearlskid84253 ай бұрын
Totally agree with the city. Rich people consuming more public resources and then leaves less access for the plebeians who can’t afford $1000 picnics.
@hxhdfjifzirstc8943 ай бұрын
Nonsense... what difference does it make whether the picnickers hauled their own chairs and food down to the sand, or paid someone to carry it and set it up for them? Your whole take is based on petty jealousy... Lemme guess, you're also mad about your neighbors getting groceries delivered, because the delivery truck takes up more of the street """resources""" and traffic is worse, when you have to drive to the store and haul your own groceries, because you can't afford $1000 grocery deliveries.
@pearlskid84253 ай бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 well you are wrong. I am immunocompromised and was very grateful for Instacart and generously tipped those who helped me out in 2020 and 2021. I live near beaches and see many happy families bring chairs, blankets and food. What I don’t see regular people bringing are gazebos, roses 🌹 interspersed every 8 feet creating a large perimeter that says to the public “KEEP AWAY” I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
@Western_ENT3 ай бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 you do NOT understand the differences between ORGANIZED CRIMEs vs. NON-ORGANIZED CRIMEs, DO YOU? Go back to middle school then!
@DIGITAL7Media3 ай бұрын
yeah sounds like you are just jealous of people who have a higher income than you. It isn't a financial thing, it's just people not being curious of others.
@jahkgdm3 ай бұрын
The rich with their vanity insanity 😂
@Celisar13 ай бұрын
I am for keeping public space open to everyone and not businesses occupying the best spaces.
@HSfox3 ай бұрын
If they own the land, go ahead. Public spaces are not for commercial purposes
@HJules-cw6fb3 ай бұрын
100's of picnic businesses. wow EXACTLY. too much
@MrWaterbugdesign3 ай бұрын
But once word gets out we can expand into many other kinds of businesses. I'm thinking of pitching tents on the beach and renting them out on Airbnb. 1000's of businesses. I guess then the city would regulate me too and limit me to only one tent per beach. Still, pretty sweet money maker.
@roachtoasties3 ай бұрын
That sounds like an exaggeration. If true, this is way out of control.
@hxhdfjifzirstc8943 ай бұрын
On the other hand, if _hundreds_ of people are making a living, by selling ready-made picnics, then there's obviously huge public demand for this service. The people WANT this business. Why would we want government to prohibit what people _want?_ And people _clearly_ want the convenience of having picnic supplies delivered all the way to the sand, for them. It's no worse than having groceries delivered to your door. If I'm going to the beach, and the people next to me have a picnic, how does it affect me, whether they brought their own chairs/canopy/food, or paid someone to deliver it for them? It's the same either way... It'd be the same exact people, having a picnic next to me. And no, you don't have a right to an empty beach, with no picnics in sight. Is it illegal to have a picnic on the beach? Gawd, I hope not. What's next... you can't go to the beach if you take an Uber... only if you drive your own car? This is all toxic nit-picking. People get addicted to dreaming up nonsense rules for other people, and then trying to get the government to enforce them. Stop trying to control other people.
@enjoystraveling3 ай бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 I think the main problem is with all these illegal business of luxury picnics is It takes away a picnic table from someone who just wants to have a simple picnic of their own lunch meats, and sodas, and doesn’t want to pay any extra for luxury picnic, take along their own self picnic.
@jodybogdanovich43333 ай бұрын
Hundreds 🤔
@ZadyBady3 ай бұрын
I'm a photographer and I am required to pay a professional photographer fee for use of the parks in my city. It makes sense to me as I'm using tax payer funded parks for my commercial business and income. It's about $300 per year. Hell of a lot cheaper than renting a studio!
@jenniferwilliams95483 ай бұрын
I just asked this in a different comment, I wondered how that worked, and has anyone ever asked you to provide this proof? I wonder why they won't offer the same deal to the luxury picnic people?
@ZadyBady3 ай бұрын
In maybe about 50 sessions, I was only approached one time to verify I had the photographer license.@@jenniferwilliams9548
@neomonk56683 ай бұрын
Aren’t you a taxpayer in your city?
@EricaGamet3 ай бұрын
@@neomonk5668 If they're in their own city, then yes. But paying taxes doesn't mean you get to indicate how they're spent.
@ZadyBady3 ай бұрын
Yes I am .. but parks are for the recreational use of the community, not for commercial use. If I (and people like me) are going to use a publicly funded location for their income, they should get permission and perhaps pay a commercial use fee. @@neomonk5668
@sadjaxx3 ай бұрын
Don't take the public out public areas, unless you are inviting everybody to your luxury picnic!
@melissarose8883 ай бұрын
It’s about time! If you want to have a party at the park you need a permit at most parks. I don’t see why it would be any different for them.
@elizabethr41073 ай бұрын
I don't see the problem. Get a permit. Obey the law 💁♀️
@Deniseeee843 ай бұрын
Preach
@JamesWhiteside3 ай бұрын
Issue for them is one booking a day means the go out of business.
@DaveCM3 ай бұрын
@@JamesWhiteside So, they have a bad business model.
@JamesWhiteside3 ай бұрын
@@DaveCM Bad for the local governmental choices but not inherently bad.
@Deniseeee843 ай бұрын
@@JamesWhiteside they can always get a second job like the rest of us !
@burnout_20173 ай бұрын
You dont own the beach or the parks, let the customers come pick up the stuff and do it on their own. But to assume you can just use these places as your dining room is quite pretentous and insulting.
@marcuslinton3103 ай бұрын
Yeah, this is an easy law to skirt around, right? Just prep everything for the customer, they come pick it up and take it all to whatever location they want.
@linedanzer43023 ай бұрын
Good post!
@hxhdfjifzirstc8943 ай бұрын
On the other hand, what difference does it make whether the people having a picnic next to me physically hauled their stuff down to the sand, or paid someone else to do it for them? This is like being mad that your neighbor can afford to have groceries delivered to their front door, while you have to go to the grocery store and haul everything yourself. This is such a toxic way of living -- either way, it's the SAME PEOPLE sitting next to you.
@realamerican80693 ай бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894”over simplified”
@marcuslinton3103 ай бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Totally agree, it's kind of a ridiculous situation, right. However, I can see there being a problem if the company was staking out land for the entire day with multiple clients coming one after the other. That literally would be setting up business on a public beach.
@garyhull56173 ай бұрын
They could do their picnics in Compton.........Probably wouldn't need a permit there.
@oneskydog67683 ай бұрын
I would like to run my business rent free on public recreation spaces too!
@pm71283 ай бұрын
A pinic basket with a pretty blanket or a small table are ok. But it's not when you started putting up a gazebo, spread arrangements over half the beach, or blocking other beachgoers. You need to get a permit and/or rent if you want to use the beach for your business.
@Nonakame3 ай бұрын
I have to agree with the city on this one, with a caveat. Been plenty of times I’ve been walking on the beach or in a park where there’s been one of these luxury picnic events and every one of them had alcohol which unfortunately is illegal on city beaches and parks now. I’m for these entrepreneurs negotiating with the city on permits for the space and temporary liquor licenses. I’ve been to a couple of beach weddings pre pandemic and those all had permits. Play by the rules or work with the city government to come to an amicable agreement. Quit being a “victim”.
@zsuzsuspetals3 ай бұрын
Is that what that stuff on the beach is? I see it in Malibu and I thought it was someone having a small wedding reception. I've also seen some of the trash left behind that I hoped someone was coming to clean up after. Who the heck during the pandemic was paying a company for a luxury picnic? LOL.
@MrDaRiAn213 ай бұрын
I wish they would highlight the increasing homelessness in San Diego, and how they set up camps wherever they want doing drugs in family oriented places including the beaches. They don’t have permits I’m sure…
@1041normalguy3 ай бұрын
Actually the city of San Diego is right sometimes these people do picnic events and they close sections of the beach or Park like if they're owning the park or Beach like if it was a private property we are not talking about picnic we are talking about 100 people or more because this is not a regular picnic we're talking about engagement parties weddings not only that but they leave a mess in the beach in the Parks
@SmallSpoonBrigade3 ай бұрын
Weren't there already permits available to cover that sort of thing? I know that when one of my friends had a wedding reception at a local beach that they reserved an appropriate portion of the beach through the parks department, but it still left a lot of folks with plenty of space.
@tdbarton77123 ай бұрын
People object to businesses conducting business on park property. No different from unlicensed vendors selling food, trinkets, souvenirs, etc.
@MrWaterbugdesign3 ай бұрын
Correct. Or someone pitching a tent on your front lawn, using your car or sleeping in your bed.
@xx_Joker_xx3 ай бұрын
@@MrWaterbugdesign eh... that would be trespassing. It's private property then.
@climateanxiety28253 ай бұрын
Unlicensed vendors get fined and arrested all the time.
@jaad98483 ай бұрын
Its worse. Beach space is much more limited and in demand than sidewalks or parks.
@averteddisasterbarely23393 ай бұрын
Well damn , i have a feeling my beach karaoke business won't be allowed there now !
@erinmalone26693 ай бұрын
If you allow businesses to take up public space, you know that the people having the picnic are going to expect that they will not be interrupted at all. That is not what the beach is for. If someone came and sat right by their tent, they would probably get very uppity and act like they owned the beach. The beach is for everybody.
@norwegianblue20173 ай бұрын
One permit per day per location sounds pretty reasonable to me. Her saying that that isn't enough because there are hundreds of businesses that do this doesn't really help her argument.
@halberderdier80733 ай бұрын
In fact it strengthens the city's argument.
@TheBierman193 ай бұрын
She doesn't care about you or the public.....all she cares about is making as much money as possible.....
@SkweeGee5003 ай бұрын
I need some cushions for my ears
@thea.m.p.co.4673 ай бұрын
Lazy ass only willing to do the bare minimum of work and effort. "OmG I hAvE tO _aPpLy_ FoR pErMiTs LiKe MuLtIpLe TiMeS a WeEk??" Welcome to _Commercial Catering,_ *Karen.*
@hskrgrad3 ай бұрын
Exactly. I am sure these companies just flew under the radar for a while and now that there are in her words "hundreds of them" I can only imagine how many of these picnics are being set up every day. You aren't making a living doing one picnic a day. So what each company is doing 10 per day? 20? Now you are talking thousands of picnics along the beach every day. It wasn't a big enough nuisance before to do anything about it. That is why the city put a stop to the unregulated use and that is why it isn't relatable to some random family wanting to go out and set up their own picnic. It's all about scale.
@Sunny_B43 ай бұрын
Seriously? You feel entitled to use public space for YOUR business? But you don’t get to tell some loud teenagers to go away if they park themselves next to your picnic, right?
@Coconutsin3 ай бұрын
What about people that offer exercise classes? Daycares that use the park? Ice cream vendors? You big mad at everyone?
@KNByam3 ай бұрын
You mean like roads, tunnels and bridges?
@MrWarren19913 ай бұрын
@@Coconutsin Those are not taking up large areas, for long periods of time. lets not act like this is a 6x6 blanket we are having a picnic at, this is a 12x12 area or larger
@cer22993 ай бұрын
Sounds like they are catering to private picnics. So what is the big deal. If I order food to-go and go eat on the beach with a tent and chairs, and my kids there is not an issue, but if I want someone else to set up and clean up for me, they can't? That is stupid.
@AerialEscape3 ай бұрын
but you're okay with high crime, open drug use, and homelessness aren't you... because you'll continue to vote democrat
@danielguerra49113 ай бұрын
File for a permit. All the city wants is their cut!
@aw80793 ай бұрын
Its NOT a picnic, it's a catered event. Get a permit or get a restaurant.
@haudeamerican69593 ай бұрын
As much as I feel sad for these business owners, this had to be stopped. Imagine if everyone starts doing it…how will us public enjoy these views in public land.
@MrWaterbugdesign3 ай бұрын
The law against this has always existed. It's any business, not just picnics. City just learned this was even going on and started writing tickets. Picnic are allowed, but business use isn't without permits. Food businesses like these require health department permits in addition to business permits. That requires passing a test on basic food safety.
@yettimannettii20393 ай бұрын
Who wants to see all of the crap on the beach??? Not me.
@xx_Joker_xx3 ай бұрын
@@MrWaterbugdesign not to mention liability issues. I feel sure none of these picnic owners has the required business liability insurance coverage to cover themselves or the city, if someone should be injured.
@rollinggreenmonster3 ай бұрын
the public is their customers geez
@katiesioux77573 ай бұрын
The public ruining public fun on public land??
@cocosheabuttarosemaryqueen92043 ай бұрын
Just get a permit. If thats not possible then its time to look for another hussle
@notsocrates95293 ай бұрын
>hustle It's called working a job, hustling is scheming and making money the easy way. Do not put real work in the same league as "hustling".
@cocosheabuttarosemaryqueen92043 ай бұрын
@@notsocrates9529 okay mr. Dick-tionary. Gtfoh
@Grant-wn4ep3 ай бұрын
@notsocrates9529 -this guy heard a Jay-Z song. And didn't understand it
@Deezcutz20243 ай бұрын
Permit =another way to collect on our 💸 any way possible
@Grant-wn4ep3 ай бұрын
@Deezcutz2024 so everybody sell anything anywhere?
@CelloandAnayaJ3 ай бұрын
No figure something else out… the public pays taxes for it to be public
@guslevy35063 ай бұрын
“We want our cut.” - San Diego County
@MrsPicklesIsHome3 ай бұрын
The taxpayers pay for the upkeep of these beaches and parks. No one's putting the permit fees into their personal bank accounts.
You forgot the 2020 Pandemic and 2017 Fyre Festival
@malcorub3 ай бұрын
2023 - Bacon Wrapped Hot Dog Vendor Crisis.
@Masterslessons3 ай бұрын
2025 My Crypto Matures
@kingtrance3072 ай бұрын
@@Masterslessons- 2026 Your crypto crashes along with everything else.
@Masterslessons2 ай бұрын
@@kingtrance307 we plan to sell in 2025 so thats ok
@neeksor3 ай бұрын
*gasp* you mean I can't monetize public resources without some sort of permit or planning? how horrible!
@neeksor3 ай бұрын
hundreds of picnic "businesses".. lol
@JJUnohu3 ай бұрын
People run yoga or exercise classes in parks all the time......city tours , walking tours, etc....
@neeksor3 ай бұрын
@@JJUnohu huh.. do any of those tours set up tables, chairs, blankets, or food in public areas? You do realize that most parks require a permit for a large group to use the area for an event, right?
@Truechildofgod3 ай бұрын
Its called the land if the free for crying out loud. With how high taxes are out here they aren’t doing anything wrong. The city is just greedy.
@neeksor3 ай бұрын
@@Truechildofgod so a private business is able to take advantage of public property for their own gain? interesting.
@deemo52453 ай бұрын
It’s a good point, they can’t just use public spaces for commercial events. It’s like when a homeless person puts a tent in a public park and is allowed to just live there rent free, which happens all the time
@pigboykool3 ай бұрын
San Diego cracks down on luxury picnics on beach............... UNLESS you are HOMELESS! 🤣🤣🤣
@annemueller45783 ай бұрын
We had a boat on Harbor Island. There would be picnics/ weddings/ work parties on many weekends. The amount of trash left behind was horrendous. Trash would blow into the water, zip ties and plastic table wear left behind. My husband found an entire cooler filled with beer one morning after one of these events. Someone needs to take responsibility for the messes that are left behind after many of these events.
@seanfalconer71823 ай бұрын
The City is right in this case. They didn't file for the proper permits so they can literally go pound sand.
@sharamusica3 ай бұрын
Okay but if we need permits for a picnic at the beach why aren’t we requiring documentation to come into our country?????? Like do y’all see the stupidity here. Criminals who commit serious crimes being release without bail. Home owners are getting arrested for trying to remove squatters from a home like where is the logic??
@SmethwickCouncilmanBint3 ай бұрын
@@sharamusica They'll never acknowledge the real issues because that would show how screwed we truly are.
@nickmarsala37873 ай бұрын
You're dead wrong. People can and should be able to do whatever business they want on a public beach. I love how you support this yet you don't seem to care that this is only hurting working class people.
@cherrelleg82763 ай бұрын
Technically if she supply the stuff then leave what’s the difference if she had the stuff for herself then left.
@patrickodea65003 ай бұрын
They would need a permit to pound the sand
@MPFSD3 ай бұрын
Honestly, the city has accommodated this type of business for quite some time now without enforcing the permit rule for commercial purposes. They can still do elaborate setups in private settings as many as they want so it's not like they won't be making any income at all.
@Volkswagen19673 ай бұрын
I'm sure the IRS is aware of their side gig😅😅😅😅
@lg2063 ай бұрын
I love all these companies that operate illegally, and then complain about their livelihood being taken. You really thought that you could have luxury picnics on a public beach and not pay to play? 😂
@monicaramirez510153 ай бұрын
Rightttttt😮geez it’s a public place NOT a commercial venue for private profits!!!!!
@nooshinscorner3 ай бұрын
I didn't hear anyone complaining about paying for the permit. I heard that only 1 vendor can work at each park or beach thus many won't have access to the permit.
@tastybritches66443 ай бұрын
@@nooshinscornerbecause then it would just be a private picnic area, not a public area.
@lg2063 ай бұрын
@@monicaramirez51015 How dare you make me abide by the same operating rules and costs as other small business owners lol
@lilycollegemythbusters55323 ай бұрын
Also, how many years has that business paid your mortgage. C'mon!
@daughterofwolf3 ай бұрын
City is correct. They are essentially renting a space - a public space for profit. If they were renting the items for people (customers) to set it up themselves that would be different but they’re literally renting Public beaches.
@chriscalderin66773 ай бұрын
What is the difference exactly? Same people using it same space they are just hire help for a picnic
@wanda182213 ай бұрын
@@chriscalderin6677what if someone chokes on a piece of steak and dies, they will sue the city for allowing unregulated businesses.
@chronic20233 ай бұрын
City regulations and municipal code have prohibited any kind of business activity on the sand area since the 90s. San Diego has started enforcing the code because there's been a lot more activity since the pandemic.
@jenniferwilliams95483 ай бұрын
What's the difference between this and photo shoots that take an hour to shoot, or longer? My friends wedding pics took 3 hours, we went before the actual day to get the wedding party and bride and groom, and there were like 15 other wedding parties as well as prom all trying to get the gardens and waterfalls, i felt bad for people just trying to enjoy the park because all the beautiful picturesque spots were being used for pics!
@Franaflyby3 ай бұрын
I sell artwork publicly, and I have to pay for a permit annually. If they śtart letting business just anywhere on the beach with no permit, then it will own up business all over with no permits. It's not fair to us who are not allowed even with a vendors license to sell on the beach.
@richardelliott83523 ай бұрын
if you want to see some real crap, go to Venice beach in los Angeles , where unregulated venders fight to get a space and than sell rummage sale looking tourist junk all day long.
@Franaflyby3 ай бұрын
@richardelliott8352 funny you mentioned that. I drove to Venice Beach this past fall from Utah. I had some art to sell, so i thought about looking into selling, I found out through their locals that you do not need permits. It was trashy, and yes, I was setting up only to have two guys come by to say that's their spot. I saw all the junk and swapmeet types of vendors. I packed it up and went to Santa Monica's art district. Venice is full of crazies.
@rafael26613 ай бұрын
Beaches should not be used for private events, which impede public use. I agree with the City!
@dixonpinfold25823 ай бұрын
How is it any less of a "private event" when you go to the beach and do all the very same things, except no paid helpers drop your stuff off? So you mean I can come sit with you and your wife? It's a "public event"? All I have to do is determine that you made your own sandwiches? How can any local residents availing themselves of the beach be somehow not "the public," but others are? Your own post is pretty low key, but tbh I find a lot of the rest of this whole section a psychologist's wonderland of fake moral outrage masking feelings of humiliation. It's about envy over what people see as people with the money to hire freelance 'servants.' Envy. Otherwise they'd only be calling for a simple ban on reserving spots which would apply to everyone. Which would be fair. But reserving spots actually wasn't even something mentioned in the video; people here are just assuming it happens. (Naturally, because these services are so morally infuriating, they _must_ be guilty of every imaginable 'offense.' 🙄 They must litter, too! And as another person mentioned, they must have unsanitary kitchen practices and are going to poison people! He just _knew it!_ No doubt they also stare at their phones while driving - and one can only imagine how they vote in elections! etc., etc.)
@user-uj5ly1eq5n3 ай бұрын
That’s not freedom then
@TypeHoeNegative3 ай бұрын
@@dixonpinfold2582I’ve never gone to a park or a beach with “full table setups, a menu with drinks, and floral arrangements”. norma people going on a picnic involves a blanket and some finger food in a basket, not setting up a big tent in public spaces. stop being obtuse on purpose.
@dixonpinfold25823 ай бұрын
@@TypeHoeNegative I've just been pepper-sprayed by Officer Norma People of the Fancy Police.😂 But I can tell you've never been camping before, Officer Norma. You think a canopy is a tent.
@Lovelyliife3 ай бұрын
A Karen will support a Karen 😂
@chrislu99143 ай бұрын
I see two sides with opposing arguments. I have worked with all levels of government thru my working career, city, county, state and feds. There is no problem for a family or individual to stake a prime spot and have a lovely sunday picnic or even have uber delivery food to their location whilst there. The problem starts when those said individuals start making money off thier efforts,(i.e setting up blankets and chairs and selling access to the public)thus profiting off the land that was intended to be free of use for the public. Once you start making business like efforts and profiting, then you need to have permission(permit) from the governing authority(city of San diego) to do so. All public entities have similar rules. Even if putting up a bounce house at a park should require special permisson or reservations. If you take a picture in a national park and intend to sell that picture, you have to get a permit and pay. You cant just got Yosemite and set up a altar and have a wedding. Thats just how it is. Believe it or not its i. The publics best interests for these sort of rules. If these rules didn't exist, imagine going to the beach in a few years and see hundreds of these picnic tents lining the beaches every evening with numerous different companies trying to run their businesses. These tents would get more and more elaborate as competition grows amongst these private vendors, thanks to instagram and tik tok reels.
@pauldietzmann56103 ай бұрын
She needs to pay rent like you pay for the picnic Pavilion at a park
@itsgameovernow58183 ай бұрын
As someone that has come across this business on the beach is sometime annoying to deal with. Its not the planner their customers are acting like they own the spot. For example, my son and I were riding motorcycles and went to park at the water. We were told we were not allowed to park where we were because we were too close to someone's romantic picnic, and my bike was too loud. My response was I'm only gonna be here for 10 minutes and then they call the cops on me. ( Cops didn't do anything ) So in reality it's not necessarily business it's more of their customers that think they're entitled
@Himmiefan3 ай бұрын
I don’t see anything wrong with the businesses in general, but yeah, that was wrong. You had a right to be there too.
@halberderdier80733 ай бұрын
They have paid money, so that makes them think (wrongly) they are entitled to something .
@jeffdur13303 ай бұрын
Cool story bro, can't wait for the sequel.
@Ap_twsh3 ай бұрын
no, the illegal business owners are entitled
@loki1108723 ай бұрын
50 years ago we thought we’d have flying cars. We ended up with luxury picnics. “ you’ve got plates, seat cushions to sit on”. Hundreds of picnic businesses? Find another job.
@steadysmv3 ай бұрын
Maybe the picnic business owners, apparently it’s a thing, should start shoplifting or committing other crimes. The city would probably leave them alone to do whatever they want at that point. This is occurring in California after all.
@trumpialightning16913 ай бұрын
I think this looks more like a wedding set up therefore it takes a lot of space for others to have their own piece of the beach. Sorry the city is right. Imagine how many others will come up with another great idea to do on the beach? After all it is a Public Place!!
@imatter46193 ай бұрын
She should do that in a private venue and not on a public one.
@GEOMETRICINK3 ай бұрын
Exactly. They should find people willing to rent out their land. I would be super annoyed if a business was staking out the best spots at beaches and parks and sitting there all day every day with their tents.
@user-cg3bg3hy7j3 ай бұрын
Yes. One thing is being missed though. What about the people paying them for that service? Do they have no conscious?
@imatter46193 ай бұрын
@@user-cg3bg3hy7j I'm thinking that either they don't know any better or don't care.
@inmyexpression193 ай бұрын
I think the point of it is to be on the beach lol
@idolcarol52643 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@cptbob1003 ай бұрын
It pays your mortgage, car note, AND food in San Diego? How much are people paying for these picnics?? 😂
@MrsPicklesIsHome3 ай бұрын
Too much to make any sense whatsoever. But they have photos for Instagram and lots of attention from people walking by. 🤣
@tyaj6943 ай бұрын
Truly amazing work,
@larryg.91873 ай бұрын
I can agree with the cities legal opinions ... A beach is open for the public, and not for part of that public, to run its commercial businesses there ... Go rent some space from a wealthy land owner somewhere ... When you set up an 'event', your highly likely to want to 'push away' 'non event' people from 'your party area'... And that's illegal, and rude ... When you 'rent an area' from a private party... Rules can be applied ... But still, years ago, it was declared no one can own the coastline, except the State... So, you may own coastal property, but access must remain open to the public ... So these ladies are fighting a lost battle ...
@treeherder22013 ай бұрын
Dude.....it's a BEACH. There are thousands of miles of it along the West coast.
@UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart3 ай бұрын
Dude - your argument falls flat. People without an event push people away from their party area. Happens every weekend lol SMH
@bodyzoasispersonaltraining91863 ай бұрын
Silly to worry about this altogether when the president has dimensions of dementia and inflation is felt daily
@germainmalacara83483 ай бұрын
There's definitely a sense of entitlement with these businesses. The law is the law, and I don't think these ladies had the good sense to REALLY look into the legality of this.
@MoonlightGrahamCracker3 ай бұрын
Come on dude, no different than photographers who take wedding and family photos on beaches, in parks, etc… or countless other activities, fishing guides, Segway tours, nature and city walk tour guides… sounds like someone got pissy because these cater to wealthy people or perceived wealthy by the title of this video. Probably lots of regular people use them to for special occaisons.
@wiseguy49443 ай бұрын
So sad I want a business with no mortgage or rent too!!
@als41793 ай бұрын
I dont . There would be no business.
@greekguytalks3 ай бұрын
ha, nothing to write off @@als4179
@DaveCM3 ай бұрын
That is what I was thinking! A business with very little overhead.
@rolandomoreno1043 ай бұрын
If it's not allowed, it's not allowed.
@dzhorselover3 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with this policy one time me and my best friend were trying to relax on the beach and one of these businesses were blasting music and making a lot of noise setting up and even had the audacity to ask us if we would like to use their services in the future. Get a permit and stop disturbing public peace
@thea.m.p.co.4673 ай бұрын
"Hey guys! If you ever feel like annoying the people around you as much as you're being annoyed right now, I'm totally available for hire!"
@Ap_twsh3 ай бұрын
Yup people have become entitled and disrespectful.
@1aammww3 ай бұрын
Then getting a permit will just allow them to do the same thing but with a permit….i dont get how if ppl are annoyed with what they are doing…how that will change when they have city approval to do that very thing?
@emiherd13273 ай бұрын
If street vendors need a permit so do they.. plain and simple 🤷🏻♀️…
@r8chlletters3 ай бұрын
I just wish they would crack down on people with dogs and dogs off leash at beaches where they are not allowed.
@LygerTheCLaw3 ай бұрын
ever since i was a kid, i have known that you need a permit to do a business in a park or just about any public location. these people are just playing ignorant.
@MrsPicklesIsHome3 ай бұрын
Entitled. They're special and have bills to pay!
@MrWaterbugdesign3 ай бұрын
Want to make a living using land land they don't own. Great business model. I think I'll start renting out my neighbor's house and say it's to put food on the table for my kids so I should have the right.
@pumpkinfield1003 ай бұрын
Exactly! 😂
@bodyzoasispersonaltraining91863 ай бұрын
We all own the beach right ?
@rodrod3833 ай бұрын
@@bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186 yes that is why it is not a place for a commercial business to stake a place and start operating for a profit
@robertmarley88523 ай бұрын
Not in Jamaica
@JJUnohu3 ай бұрын
Not even close to the same thing....I'm allowed to picnic on the the beach, why can't I pay someone to set it up for me?
@deerinmyyard84303 ай бұрын
Commercial uses of parks seems a bit wrong.
@AsaTrenchard18653 ай бұрын
I got away with breaking the law so long that you should let me keep on doing it.
@sasham12803 ай бұрын
Didn’t they look into all the laws and permit processes before starting a business?
@thepro37293 ай бұрын
They know the laws. They are trying to bypass the rent/lease aspect by squatting on public/govmt space
@drunkenant73193 ай бұрын
Oh but they need business to "pay their mortgage" and "feed their family". As if others don't deal with that issues. People like this think they can get away with bs stuff while trying to guilt trip others, absolutely hate it
@MrsPicklesIsHome3 ай бұрын
They knew and didn't care and now they're playing the victim. One's even using the "have to feed my children" card. Poor choices lead to poor outcomes.
@hansel20013 ай бұрын
You can’t just take up public beach space. Pay for it.
@Western_ENT3 ай бұрын
No, you CAN'T take up more space than the current shared space allowed, even if you wanna PAY FOR MORE OF IT, it's not a space for you to BUY/RENT, get your a** over to RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL.. ZONES to do so!
@cnixon44443 ай бұрын
Good thing this is what they're "cracking down on"
@kharithoughts26793 ай бұрын
Is it really hurting anyone that much? Just let them be. Be happy for the wonderful experience being created for others.
@aubriellemorgan3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@abbywinters77513 ай бұрын
I have always had to pay rent for the space that i do business. If they're doing business on public property they should pay vending fees like most other businesses. .....and yes, it's a distraction for people who are just being people on the beach.
@sophiasummers16373 ай бұрын
Did you do due diligence before you started the business to ensure it was based on legal and viable practices?
@SmallSpoonBrigade3 ай бұрын
It's part of the cultural view that's really emerged that last few decades about doing things that are shady AF and then asking for permission rather than putting some effort into getting the permission ahead of time. If this were a bit more of a grey area issue, I'd understand their point, but I don't think that any city allows for this sort of commercial use of parks to be done without any permits.
@MrsPicklesIsHome3 ай бұрын
It's called entitlement. It's a rampant disease these days.
@bascal1333 ай бұрын
She’s clearly extremely talented at what she does, what she needs to do is rent spaces for this, and then decorate them like that and then just have the customers pay for the cost of the rental essentially. Renting out like a hall or a room in building or church, and then decorating it would be completely fine.
@alexdasilva94173 ай бұрын
They should be cracking down on shop lifters not these people.
@meep22533 ай бұрын
If street vendors can get a permit then picnic planners can also get one
@jeffdur13303 ай бұрын
They don't get permits either lol
@meep22533 ай бұрын
@@jeffdur1330 yes, they are able to get permits. Due diligence is important.
@jaad98483 ай бұрын
Also its worse. Beach space is in much more demand and limited than sidewalks.
@meep22533 ай бұрын
@@jaad9848 excellent point
@johncarter44113 ай бұрын
The city should allow only so many permits per area per day, and only in certain parts designated for fancy picnics. How annoying to have a big obnoxious tent taking up space to play and room and relax on the beach
@oldsaerotech11673 ай бұрын
What's next? A giant Bouncey-House or trampoline for some kid's birthday.. It's like having a wedding ceremony without any acknowledgement from municipal landholders. "We do what we want and needed that loophole. Don't tell us adult realities!"
@tedapostolidis758126 күн бұрын
Just because you choose to do something for a living does not mean that you are owed that living. In between the city still allowing the outdoor seating that cuts into Street Lanes, and private for-profit events like this that take away public space, along with the public events downtown shut down three or four city streets at a time, private businesses are more and more encroaching on public spaces.
@anye763 ай бұрын
Public places are public spaces for the public not commercial use! WTG San Diego permits were the correct choice. Business owners you may need to find others ways to make income
@danielabilez36193 ай бұрын
The land belongs to everyone to enjoy. It just needs to be regulated. Regulated meaning a permit for the location's use within a park or beach for a specific time and duration. The people requesting the fancy picnic can have the picnic coordinator get the permit for them.
@MrWaterbugdesign3 ай бұрын
That's been the long standing city policy. Many things require permits. This picnic thing has been slowly growing. People have always been allowed to picnic in parks and on beaches. And businesses could get away with charging to bring the food. But now there are 100's of the businesses all trying to out do each other with bigger tents and things people started to notice WTF is going on here. This is a business??? You can't be doing that. Businesses have never been allowed to use public spaces without a permit. There's nothing special about picnic businesses. A business can apply for a permit to do anything. May not get the permit, but welcome to apply. City has guidelines for common events like weddings. Now they're say 1 picnic per park per day. But they may change that as they see how it goes. I assume they'll also limit the amount of space used.
@vonnie19993 ай бұрын
Does she pay the city for use of her business. Imagine how this will affect others who are just hanging about. Are they supposed to shoo away!
@ufosrus3 ай бұрын
She's just another Karen being a pain in the .......
@Ap_twsh3 ай бұрын
laws apparently dont exist. I think I should rent those two's houses out for the day since laws apparently dont mean anything to them.
@socaljarhead76702 ай бұрын
I can see one permit per business per day, per beach, but other than that there shouldn’t be a restriction.
@Healing_Decibels2 ай бұрын
OMG , the level of entitlement these business women have, so ur saying it’s ok to engage in illegal activity as long as it pays your luxury lifestyle in San Diego, mortgage and car payment??? What type of argument is this?? Maybe I’m becoming a Karen but those obnoxious photographer chicks that overcrowd public beaches together with their clients annoy the heck out of me…
@BlackFemaleAnd502 ай бұрын
You are not being a Karen. Nobody in these comments are on these women's side. If they want to provide "luxury picnics" they need to buy some property and do it there. They can't set up shop on public land without any regulations.
@user-qb8qm4mp5n3 ай бұрын
I'm with the city on this one. California beaches are for everyone to enjoy not just people who take up a large amount of space because they paid an event planner.
@deloradeabel84873 ай бұрын
Safety first,if these Luxury picnics are distracting the life guards than it should not be allowed!
@NaVyDuDeSoMeThInG3 ай бұрын
Everyone disagreeing basically saying, “every other business owner needs to follow regulations, but them”👁️👄👁️
@mrradman29863 ай бұрын
No different from someone putting up a load of sunloungers or beach tents and then charging for use. Before you know it the beach isnt available for the public anymore.
@paolabueso3 ай бұрын
True.
@fran-gx3kf3 ай бұрын
This beach business should have permits, be taxed, etc. like any other businesses. Otherwise people will come up with all kinds of their own excuses to earn a living on public properties and create some kind of interference.
@Michelle-yd1hh3 ай бұрын
Weddings and other events on the beach and the beach parks are permitted as one per park per day, makes sense for this to be as well.
@Diesel4373 ай бұрын
@@Michelle-yd1hhno one cares what you think
@beenjammin85813 ай бұрын
Right. Limit every citizens while allowing Homeless and Immigrants to take over everything. That’s symmetrical for sure!
@jaybee63183 ай бұрын
Meanwhile the city just ignores all the homeless setting up camp wherever they see fit.