San Martin vs SteelDive | Which Sub is Better? | Review & Comparison

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[@motouno3778]

Thanks , great comparison . Firstly every watch manufacturer has the occasional QC issue . As long as they respond & fix the issue in a timely manner then thats ok . I have a few Steeldives & all have proved to be of great quality for the price & I've not hsd any issues wearing them daily . You could basically buy 3 different Steeldives for the price of 1 San Martin & have a choice every day . As for the packaging I would rather pay less for a more simple offering when after the first few minutes of opening the boxes go into the cupboard . Cheers

[@ShortBetter]

Absolutely agree. I would rather buy 3 SD for the 1 San Martin price

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[@davidsherrick824]

I have both, like them both, but the difference for the money is there. I have 5 'Entry ' Swiss automatic watches and San Martin is pretty good comparison. Good video

[@onemorewatchplease]

I just order a SN0017 and cant wait to review it and compare it with my 1953, great comparison video buddy

[@SlimDonni]

I received my first San Martin Last week, before I had only bought Pagani Design & Addiesdive watches, you can see where the extra money went because the fit & finish on the San Martin gives you an insane amount of Bang for your Buck. I just wish they had more original Designs, because I'm not a Fan of Homages, especially the recognisable Homages.

[@seeyaontheroad]

I also have both in my collection for about a year and I do wear both often. Both watches with the NH35 movement keep great time. I bought both on Aliexpress with coupon sales. Steeldive 1953 you can get as low as $50.00 and SM as low as $135. Not being cheap about anything but I gravitate to my Steeldive with green bezel mostly. It's just so much nicer to look at and it's a eye catcher as well, others seem to ask me about it. Keep up the great reviews.

[@ShortBetter]

Thank you!! :)

[@jorgegonzalezrincon5142]

Muy friend im thinking to buy a SM or steeldive , what you prefer if you need yo buy only one ??

[@ShortBetter]

@@jorgegonzalezrincon5142 I wouldn't buy SM for 3x price. There is nothing that different for the extra money you pay

[@jorgegonzalezrincon5142]

@@ShortBetter thanks my friend

[@AWATCH-4U]

For the money Steeldive is a no brainer i have two 1953s... kermit n Black OG ...the kermit is flawless but the Black OG bezel insert was slightly off but rectified it.. But also have two San Martins ones flawless and the other also had an bezel alignment issue that i rectified soon as got it...Its a hard one with this comparison as the 53 probably is Steeldives best piece theyve produced..San Martin do have issues from time to time but not as much...Price difference is significant between the two and for me the Steeldive is way better value hands down...All said and done theyre all homages afterall...

[@ShortBetter]

11:1 Steeldive wins!

[@stephanboxall1462]

How did you rectify the bezel alignment?

[@adk7962]

Thanks for the great comparison. I’m not a fan of Subs nor Sub Homages. But I’m glad both exists. I’m always willing to pay a little more for better finishing and QC but not everyone can or is willing. Thanks!

[@ShortBetter]

Thanks for watching! Yes, pay extra for the QC and after-sale service makes sense... But for me an extra 100$ is too much :D

[@adk7962]

@@ShortBetter Yeah $100 is a bit too much. It just goes to show how well Steeldives are made.

[@91lifetime23]

What about the movement?? Whats the difference between 35H vs 35HA

[@ShortBetter]

The movements are the same

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[@artieshell9205]

Great video. One small thing that would be nice - when putting up specs, left and right… leave both sides up to see the words (numbers) at the same time on the screen.

[@ShortBetter]

That's a good point! Thanks for noticing. Will try in the next video

[@STARHEXALKNIVES]

i have both t think stelldive more value for money .. then san martin more thinner and sexies..

[@ShortBetter]

Agree

[@Ericdagreat]

Just the lume itself, at the lower price, it’s a no brainer that the one to get is Steeldive. Who cares about the thickness. If anyone is worried about thickness, go buy a cheap quartz homage from another brand. I have two of these Steeldive Subs, a Watchdives Milisub with a meca-quartz, and a white dial Addiesdive sub. They are all great! The Addiesdive auto appears to be thinner than the Steeldive, so that’s an option for the thin ones

[@tatarugabriel4328]

Thank you for the valuable information. I had this particular steeldive but i gifted it to someone and now i have a chronograph watch for a year. I've been missing the dive watch style tho and I've been thinking should i get the steeldive again or get a San Martin. Thank you for the quality content

[@ShortBetter]

You're welcome! So which one are you going to get?😁

[@tatarugabriel4328]

​@@ShortBetterprobably the San Martin. It looks like it has a better bracelet overall and the finish is better. However I've heard some people complain the date on the San Martin is not perfectly centered in the date window. Have you noticed anything like that on your watch?

[@ShortBetter]

@@tatarugabriel4328 I think it happens from time to time. This particular watch was good, everything aligned perfectly

[@shanedpain7734]

Both on my wishlist, thank you…

[@danschlacks7188]

I have 2 Steeldive subs, and I'm happy with them, although the AR coating on the cyclops is non-existant.. I'm thinking about going next level and getting a Steinhart. Thoughts? Anyone have experience with them? Thanks!

[@ShortBetter]

Hmm.. I'm also wondering if it's better. After reviewing all these watches, I see that more expensive "premium" watches are overpriced. Interesting if Steinhart is any different

[@MarkoMarkovina]

I had 3 Steinharts! Honesty I think that Steeldive is a better watch. Only Sub that's really good from Steinhart is OVM but you can only get it in 42 mm and that's way to big. They have 39 on gnomon watches but proportions are off and so is the price. So, don't waste your money... All of those Chinese brands are insanely good... I had them all and I have some Swiss luxury watches and it's mind blowing but they are actually comparable

[@firstview8598]

I am very very confused between steeldive sd1953 and san martin sn017g-b(newer version)which is cheaper then previous san martins(only $138).which one should i buy ?!!!help!!!

[@ShortBetter]

@firstview8598 Considering that SD1953 is only 55usd now, I see no reasons to pay double+ price for a little bit better bracelet. Movement, glass, lume, bezel actions are the same

[@Ericdagreat]

A little more round on the caseback is much more comfortable, than a flat caseback. A little more thickness on the back, keeps your wrist safe from the crown digging in.

[@artieshell9205]

You can’t take the plastic off for filming ? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@ShortBetter]

You're right, I should😬 I just get lazy, since there are lots of watches to review...🥲😅😅

[@lovelystuff1562]

Yes, really annoying when discussing the spaces on the bracelet links, with the plastic obscuring that exact detail.

[@darioswatchclub8]

Thank you for this One. The San Martin a bit slimmer hmm. Great One!

[@ShortBetter]

Yeah, but you can notice the difference only in the description😅 On the wrist, it looks and feels pretty much the same

[@BushCampingTools]

Yep prob right re the 99% of people staying under 50m for SCUBA. Personally 34m is the deepest I've ever dived and that in itself can be a bit of a mission with deco etc. let alone planning for repetitive dives (from shorter depths). So I have a some SteelDive watches, the Capt. Willard and the Honey Comb Diver 300m, both great specs and super accurate after one years of wearing, you might like those reviews on my channel too.

[@darioscomicschool1111]

Is there a 40mm or 41mm Watch with a Bip, the Steeldive Lume, The San Martin Bracelet and thickness?^^ Great Great Review! Is the Steeldive Caseback Logo as Scrathy and Hairkilling as on the Addisdive? That Caseback should have been Soft!

[@ShortBetter]

Thanks! I didn't wear Addies, but the caseback on Steeldive is a bit scratchy

[@darioscomicschool1111]

@@ShortBetterI filed it down with some Nail FIle. Knocked some Edges down. I wonder if I can do that for the Bracelet. Its a bit sharp for my taste.

[@perlenbacher6788]

@shortbetter Do you have any link for the current one? I cant find the San Martin under 180usd

[@ShortBetter]

Wait until 19.08, there must be some big promo again. It's the best time to order

[@nikiforbg]

I got Steeldive, lumen it's insane, great watch 4+ second per day. 58€ aliexpress👍🏼

[@anashabibifalaky3335]

Thank for your nice videos ,i want know which is the better quality steeldive sd1954c or steeldive1955 and Addiesdive MY-H3D ? Thank für help.

[@ShortBetter]

Hi, thank you for watching my videos!:) And sorry for replying you so late. SD-1954C and 1955 have identical cases, just the dial and hands are different. I can't tell you anything about MY-H3D, didn't check that model yet

[@chrisp.5272]

I love my Steeldive 1953, I also bought a Addiesdive a week later., I really like a quartz for daily wear, and the Miyota 2115 is accurate and perfect for a daily beater. The issue for me is the QC just wasn’t there with the Addiesdives, misaligned cyclops and ceramic bezel. The Duro is better, especially on a Long Island Stainless bracelet. I really like the watch but it’ll need the mineral crystal popped out and realigned. Steeldive 1953 is incredible, BGW9, and BGW9 and C3 on the Addiesdives. If I could do it over again, I would have gotten a Watchdives due to the same specs, manufacturer, and better logo, text on dial.

[@ShortBetter]

I love it too! It's probably one of the best subs out there (Quality&price)

[@Laufer88]

Is there any difference in rehaut size?

[@ShortBetter]

They look pretty much the same. Of course, if if I measure them precisely then there will be some difference

[@alessiopappalardo1061]

Ciao, la qualità dei materiali del san martinn con nh35 è uguale a la qualità con pt5000? Grazie per la risposta

[@ShortBetter]

Personally, I don't see the reason for paying more for PT5000. It is considered to be a better movement, BUT.. Compared with NH35 (price, quality, maintenance), NH35 wins

[@securitybase3430]

Addiesdive, Steeldive, The Loreo Submarino, Invicta ProDiver are the best.

[@TheTrueSolesurvivor]

Not at all but for their price they are excellent

[@paulvon2378]

don't forget the other cheapo Addiesdive

[@tiemenstaal]

Amazing how neither can get the cyclops right.

[@ShortBetter]

Hahaha

[@ВадимВ-э4й]

Циклоп наверное сделан для людей с дальнозоркостью и для меня нормально видно , а вот если бы без него то дату не разобрать .

[@sonwilvergaralopez6165]

Lo mas importate es q llevan un mecanismos confiable y usan buenos mateiales como el fafiro y seramica claro q al detalle el san martin es un poco mas fino pero algo q los demas no lo notaran

[@ShortBetter]

Agree

[@PlugInRides]

I paid only $51 last month for my Tourquoise dial, SD1953. Later on, they were selling for under $50.

[@ShortBetter]

Yeah, some promotions can be crazy..😁

[@1SaG]

I really like SM as a brand. I do own their BB Pepsi GMT homage and wanted to add another SM to my collection when I was looking for a modern Sub homage. However: I ended up going with the Cronos Sub. 1. It comes with a 4Hz movement (PT5000 or SW200). Only the SM SN0019 has a 4Hz movement and that one is a 41mm with a 21mm bracelet that doesn't have enough taper. Too large for both my taste and my 17cm wrist. Plus the 0019 has very wide end-links and an effective wing-span of over 53mm - the Cronos has 2.5mm less. 2. It doesn't have that weird, "funnel-looking" rehaut that both the SM and SD have. When you look at the Cronos dead on, you don't see the rehaut like you do on those other two (or on the SN 0019, for that matter). 3. It has an excellent, on-the-fly adjustable clasp. It's an almost exact copy of the Rolex-clasp, yes.. but it works great on my example and is very well engineered. 4. It can't compete with the SD in price, but it's only a little more expensive than SM's 0017, which, again, only has a Seiko NH35. WRT dimensions, materials and finishing, I'd go as far as saying that Cronos is up there with San Martin. I don't have a super-direct comparison, but next to my SM, the Cronos doesn't look like a cheaper or less well-finished product at all. I would recommend the Cronos if you can get it for under $/EUR 200 in a sale, like I did (paid 170, including import duties). There are only two things I'm not super happy about. One is the daylight color of the lume which isn't perfectly matched between the indices and the hands (indices are a bit off-white, while the hands are "hard" white). This seems to be some sort of QC-issue because I've seen lots of Cronos Subs on YT that didn't have that problem - and some that did and where it looked more pronounced than on mine. The other is the bezel action which is a bit too soft and vague for my taste.

[@ShortBetter]

I've had 1 of Cronos watches in bronze. The quality is awesome, but the price is a bit high.. Compared to what you get for the same money from Steeldive

[@scottasbj]

Take them apart and look at the inner cases. Otherwise, this is superficial.

[@gazookerman1328]

Steeldive is being a steeldive, whilst the San Martin is trying to emulate a rolex more, rather than being an homage. Steeldive for me everytime.

[@ShortBetter]

So far SD is the choice of most

[@purefoldnz3070]

Steeldive ftw!

[@fayadnazim]

AliExpress is blocked in india. Any alternatives?

[@ShortBetter]

I know you have a couple of local websites there, they also sell SD and other watches

[@darrenfry4695]

Yeah but ones twice the price of the other, do comparison vids with watches that are priced the same like steeldive v addisdive or pagani v berny ..etc etc

[@ВадимВ-э4й]

Механизм один не вижу смысла переплачивать только за отделку . Лично мое мнение .

[@ShortBetter]

Yeah, that's the whole point. Only the finish is different

[@davidward5225]

I can’t get past the ugly Steeldive logo, sorry.

[@sanatevreni2275]

I just wonder are braceles of those watches interchangeable? I am thinking about buying a san martin bracelet for my SD

[@ShortBetter]

I'm pretty sure they are the same. I didn't try changing them, but they look the same

[@bagumafred4193]

Or you could just buy a better lume for the San Martin😂😂😂

[@sanatevreni2275]

@@bagumafred4193 True but I can buy 2 another SD for that price

[@dariuspedro4260]

you are not accurate, i got my steeldive right here and is measuring 13 mm case thickness, so please buy a calibre dont measuring with your fingers..still, the san martin is the best

[@ShortBetter]

I wish I could measure by my fingers only🤣🤣🤣 It would be priceless skill 😁

[@mtbbiker6401]

I own two SD1953. Both measure 13.6mm including the crystal (excluding cyclops). San Martin is good but maybe not worth 3x price of SD. I own San Martin Pelagos 39 and it's very nice. Paid $200 USD.

[@TheLobonot]

Steeldive é um relogio muito bom!

[@halua1969]

I haven't had the chance to test the San Martin sub, but from what I gather from using SD1953 for 5 months are 1. The QC of SD is non existent. Mine arrived with a faulty NH35 where the rotor doesn't rotate with hand movement (I even opened the caseback to see what's going on). The cyclops was also set crooked. 2. That 14mm thickness is huge, you will definitely notice it, especially if you are used to wearing different watches. Also, due to the thickness of the watch, the height of the "rehaut" is super long, which is very noticeable. Because of this long rehaut, the cyclops doesn't work as intended and it always over magnify date window.

[@ShortBetter]

I agree, QC can be better. Even when I was making this video, I noticed that my SD doesn't work, seems to be some defects in the movement 😅 Had to get another watch for the video..

[@alex_rpm]

@@ShortBetterwhat is QC?

[@rioriggs3568]

@@alex_rpmQuality Control

[@noneedtoknowmyname2855]

​@@alex_rpm QC = Quality CONTROL.

[@1M9T7S0]

@halua1969 thanks for info about ‘rehaut’ I was wondering why the date magnification was so large. I am think of replacing the cyclops, trail and error to see if it can get down to normal levels. No issues with the NH35, only the comical date magnification …

[@robbieatvic]

The steeldive wins easily for me, for a start why would anyone want to pay for a leather box on a homage watch. Also a sub should be thick and bulkier. Great content however thanks for sharing

[@ShortBetter]

Thank you for watching! :)

[@Sands1995]

Спасибо за обзор! Steeldive мне нравится, но лучше конечно San Martin!

[@takoyneveroyatniy7206]

Почему?

[@Thomas-vu9fb]

Why is it better? Please tell..

[@Sands1995]

@@Thomas-vu9fb Я отвечал на вопрос раскрыто, но почему-то ответ не сохранился, то ли связь прервалась, то ли ещё что!

[@Sands1995]

@@takoyneveroyatniy7206 Если вкратце то корпуса идеальнее смотрится и чувствуется, браслет лучше обработка и застёжка красивее и надёжнее. Было бы интересно сравнить и модель похожую у микробренда Sugges. Модель Sugges наиболее скопирована с оригинала и браслет один в один. Но даже здесь San Martin для меня предпочтительнее. Модели San Martin более надёжнее и эстетичнее на мой взгляд. У меня есть все три модели этих микробрендов и San Martin из них отличается своей законченностью и эстетичностью. Тот же безель работает чётче и приятнее, браслет надёжнее и интереснее. Люм наверное самый лучший на рынке. Но сейчас я ношу модель SN0111GA, которые без окошка даты и края корпуса обработаны лучше чем у SN017-G-v3. Ещё я воспользовался гарантией магазина San Martin и они предлагают 2 года гарантийного обслуживания. Я к ним обратился через год, у меня на циферблате упала метка и они любезно мне её заменили и оплатили отправку туда и обратно.

[@URKA1988]

Price?

[@ShortBetter]

You can check those 2 links for the current price

[@ivoshandor6859]

He showed the prices in the beginning of the video.

[@stephenappiah6952]

I choose San Martin...

[@johnswale376]

Steeldive better for price all day long

[@FffffffffffffffffffffffffffffL]

The San Martin is discontinued at this point so Steeldive it is.

[@ShortBetter]

@@FffffffffffffffffffffffffffffL really?? I wonder why

[@FffffffffffffffffffffffffffffL]

@@ShortBetter San Martin has stated themselves that they don't keep any line of watches around perpetually. Pretty much all of them are for a limited time only

[@mtbbiker6401]

San Martin Water Ghost SN0017 is available on Aliexpress. www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806023116650.html

[@King_Krypto]

You dont wear the casing on your wrist you wear the watch, steeldive all day

[@shanedpain7734]

30ATM, compared to 20ATM. I’m looking at the SteelDive too… (About 50quid cheaper too!)

[@elmanitasdeplomo]

@@shanedpain7734 When was the last time you went diving that deep?😂

[@shanedpain7734]

@@elmanitasdeplomo it’s not about diving deep, it’s about the shock it can take on land. I climb, skate etc

[@elmanitasdeplomo]

@@shanedpain7734 Water resistance has absolutely nothing to do with shock resistance.

[@origamicrane685]

Are these both Chinese-made watches?

[@ShortBetter]

Yes😊

[@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo]

Watchdive's WD5512 and Sugess's Seaman.

[@ShortBetter]

Waiting to hear from those brands soon

[@whereRbearsTeeth]

Both are junk

[@Darkchompo89]

You're Junk

[@ShortBetter]

Why?

[@CACOPHONIE]

SM logo is just sucks. 😔

[@Gmaaa]

Send to Brasil: SteelDive 320,00 R$ no Tax; SanMarti 930,00 R$ + 820 Tax R$.

[@romariowalber]

Eu pensei em pegar um San Martin SN017, mas ia sair uns R$ 1400,00, e umas semanas atrás tinha feito uma importação de um Pagani Design PD-1685 mas foi roubado nos correios, por sorte fui reembolsado pelo aliexpress, dai decidi pegar um Steel Dive SD-1953 já no Brasil a pronta entrega por R$ 750,00, fiquei com medo de arriscar de novo no aliexpress e ter o relógio mais uma vez roubado nos correios, sendo que seria um San Martin que é bem mais caro, e também não sei se a diferença entre os dois é tão gritante assim a ponto de pagar o dobro ou triplo do valor no SM, eu até pegaria o SD-1953 no aliexpress com esse valor ai, tá saindo bem em conta, mas não quis arriscar com os correios novamente.

[@ShortBetter]

Lol

[@fortisfortunaadiuvat1071]

1mm in lug2lug is not noticeable

[@ShortBetter]

Agree, but I should mentioned anyway😁