San Quentin Prison, Aryan Brotherhood, Shootouts and Escape: John Abbott | True Crime Podcast 8

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The jaw-dropping story of a gunman the media labelled as an extremely dangerous super-villain with an IQ of 180 trained in a deadly Japanese martial art. During 2 shootouts with the cops, John lost his brother and crime partners. He escaped from San Quentin prison, California.
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[@123ChrisG]

"I'm not a tough guy and I'm not an adrenaline junkies, but I must say Robbing drug dealers was entertaining, robbing drug dealers really warmed my heart."

[@mcg4061]

Chris Grant when does he say that

[@RyCooda]

@@mcg4061 1:05:07

[@bethanypatch1712]

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[@ptgainzptgainz22]

I don't know how I haven't bn fucked up

[@EastwoodFPS]

Ye robbin drug dealers warmed my heart is a quote and a half!!

[@PeaceandLove2023]

why on earth would you watch the BBC and maybe go as far as paying for a licence, when you can listen to interesting stuff like this.

[@michaelj2528]

Totally agree with you

[@mechadonia]

Oi mate?!?!?? U got a loicense for that tele????

[@idontsmokecrackitsfreebase6660]

Jennifer Roberts agreed, have you seen Seans new podcast?

[@EnclaveRCR]

@@idontsmokecrackitsfreebase6660 I don't think so what is it referring to I'm so angry at the moment the sheer disregard all of these monsters have for the most precious

[@idontsmokecrackitsfreebase6660]

Jennifer Roberts that's exactly what it is, its effing chilling.. Its awful, I found it very hard to watch and it goes right to the top! Angry doesnt come close!

[@red00eye]

"Intelligence is weakness, intelligence allows you to see things from the other side. There is no other side there is just survival side. That is unbelievably profound.

[@nik07nik]

Its perfectly believable and only slightly profound.

[@davidsharp2050]

Live n fight. Predict my dick

[@Muscleupsanddangles]

Just keep in mind he was speaking about a specific context. That is very important.

[@jquest43]

@no candy can't stop

[@DrB81]

Be wary of serpent tongue. What is wisdom can often be folly. ✌️

[@Willwheeler97]

Shaun Attwood might just be the best podcaster on KZbin. Never once interrupts his guest in the middle of a story 👏

[@3941602]

AI Profit take notes

[@CobraQuotes1]

yeah unlike those PKA woody guys who interviewed him. Those guys couldn't shut up to save their lives.

[@aintmyshit]

@@3941602 Very true...plus Shaun has first hand experience of the criminal system and the prison system so he does not ask stupid naïve questions like many crime podcasts wannabee's do...which is quite embarrassing to listen to...

[@franktank4511]

@@aintmyshit aka vlad tv

[@sierra51174]

@@aintmyshit . ,

[@markrobinson5444]

This guy tells a story well, I love the fact he can speak without being interrupted!

[@a.rodgers6111]

I don't think Shaun wants to interupt this man

[@lordsofafan372]

@@a.rodgers6111 I agree 🤣

[@seastarfeather]

Mark Robinson ~ it’s refreshing for the host to let his guest speak. Dosen’t happen often. I’m riveted.

[@pappyodanial]

Shaun is a wonderful host, that is why.

[@sms9106]

This is more interesting than a Netflix Special.

[@alexb292]

Your picking some brilliant podcast guests here Shaun, the sky is the limit

[@themorningstar6272]

You're*

[@GD-qu9hr]

@@themorningstar6272 you're a tosser

[@themorningstar6272]

@@GD-qu9hr How come?

[@GD-qu9hr]

It a little bit pathetic correcting someone's grammar.

[@cduffy4925]

I agree 👍🏻

[@TJ-eb9ex]

Shaun..... What an incredible job you do as interviewer man. You let your guests talk and tell their stories without the need to interfere or cut them off. Keep it up man.

[@camlacasse3760]

Love it - Shaun is one of the only people who do that. When he has the lady Sonia with her, she can't shut up, and then finally she has them talking about "her issues" with the case they are talking about. So, I turn it off. Love the no agenda, my issues, and no interruptions.

[@Dr_MKUltra]

I agree, DJ Vlad, always interrupts them.

[@apatel220]

Please make a second podcast with John. This was a fantastic podcast and I'd love to learn more about his story.

[@SuperDubleG]

Please have John back Shaun, that was remarkable. Watched in one sitting. Just fantastic.

[@georgemcneill6408]

Me too, beats a year of tv BULLSHIT.

[@AdamMWise]

In my opinion this is the most dangerous person shaun has interviewed. Something about his calmness says it all. Dont mess with the quiet ones

[@walter3433]

Shut up you're always talking

[@eaomonn1215]

a dangerous bull shitter

[@CommonCentrist82]

@@sachasacha5930 UK cons are nothing compared to American cons. Blink is a big fish in a small pond. There are American convicts that could have anyone in the country murdered (along with their families) with a single note. Not only do these cons have power in America but they also have power in Central America and parts of Canada.

[@williammusleh6660]

@@CommonCentrist82 john abbot is British. He was born in england

[@VolkXue]

this guy seems to be one of the realer and more honest people so far

[@beerbug2020]

Thing I love about Shaun's podcasts is that you can crack on with your daily routine whilst listening to great conversations and stories like this. Makes doing chores around the house more fun

[@sungyultaylor1354]

EASILY the BEST interview + guest Shaun has had and done and that is saying A LOT. Shaun is a WORLD CLASS interviewer + host and this guy's stories and story telling style is extremely mesmerizing. WHAT A STORY. This one interview alone should put all reality tv out of business. Respect to these dudes from Maryland, Usa.

[@danny_89]

Respect from Croatia EU

[@arslors]

2 mins in and already know this will be good! Thanks, Shaun!

[@user-zy9yg2eu5t]

Bubbleboyyy there’s always one who makes this comment... BOORRRING

[@nickjeffrey8050]

This had me addicted! Couldn’t stop listening! His stories were amazing I just want another 3 hours of this

[@sfrrob]

The bloke has those Clint Eastwood eyes. Such an interesting story teller, binge watched all the episodes featuring him. Great stuff!

[@dr.valbell6427]

Yeah but Robert Redford ca. ‘Brubaker’ or even ‘The Last Castle’ HAS to play John in his biopic. A dead ringer, right?!

[@DanielPlainsight]

It goes without saying Shaun is a great interviewer. No interruption. No stupid questions. Amazing content as always.

[@bw4500]

Longtime listener here, halfway through this one, tentatively going to suggest this is your best guest yet.

[@MsDayPlanner]

I never thought I'd be interested in prison stories. I was wrong. This was so interesting. Depressing but very interesting. Thank you.

[@denicedavis5020]

I've heard many my brother was a prison guard at San Quentin in the 70's. He feed Manson through a slit in his door and took him to exercise on the yard.... A lot of illegal things took place in there during that time... I'm sure it still does...

[@IHACKER316]

Shaun - these podcasts are AMAZING - THANK YOU SO MUCH - I listen to them in the gym - it really makes my day - great job turning your life around and giving us all so much value

[@disf5178]

Hands down, the most interesting prison/ex-con interview I've ever seen.

[@speedrob]

That character Christopher Walken is always trying to portray... is this dude.

[@nate9253]

Num47 .... I hear that !!! The way he talks is definitely Christopher Walken . 😬

[@1e0s]

I just wrote that & then saw this🙌😊

[@jenniferw1956]

Absolutely!

[@reservetherighttoremainsil3492]

J C ok m

[@reservetherighttoremainsil3492]

Jennifer Whitehouse like lol lllmlm NL

[@catherinegrace2366]

30 minutes in; my family works in corrections in California as officers. This guy is telling you spot on about California prisons. This is great! He is not blowing things out of proportion and he knows what he’s talking about. My family would love this guy.

[@jjdd7763]

My favourite interview on the internet, this guy looks like he has nothing to hide and explains himself really good.

[@chelamcguire]

A truly magnificent guest. Thanks Sean for getting John Abbott to sit with you and speak brother to brother. An entire evening totally glued!

[@GreasyBelcher]

Man, I binge watched part 1 and 2 last night. This guy is one of the most fascinating people you have ever had on the podcast. John Abbott sounds like Dennis Hopper and has got me searching real estate websites looking for 40 hectare / 100 Acre blocks suitable for pine tree growth. Can’t wait to watch part three tonight.

[@Tony777Zz]

John “ robbing drug dealers warmed my heart” Abbot

[@Nick-ii3ux]

@Pretty fly for a WiFi I'm pretty sure he's not lol

[@Nick-ii3ux]

@Pretty fly for a WiFi can you post a link? I can't find a single thing about him

[@Nick-ii3ux]

@Pretty fly for a WiFi was he convicted?

[@jackburness2555]

@Pretty fly for a WiFi googled. you talk shit snowflake, never start with an excuse either it certify's your bullshit .

[@drewdavidson9891]

Think i found the article Pretty Fly is talking about,even if he did over-exaggerate the details a bit lol..... truecrimediary.com/index.cfm?page=cases&id=210 Since it aint an actual news report/article, id be a bit cynical about how much is truth

[@happentodie8776]

this guy has been my favourite guest so far , you can tell hes way above the curve intelligence-wise , very interesting and fun , I literally only wanted to watch 5 mins , but couldn't help but blow off the rest of my day listening to this , and well done shaun for not interrupting him with silly questions etc

[@paulineh6152]

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[@veryvanya]

Try to get a hold of 'Posh Pete' for a podcast! He was a UK drug smuggler who spent 8 years in Ecuador prison! Crazy stories!

[@markpalmercomedy]

I second that He would be a really good guest

[@BigdaveIDF1]

Stick with American guys

[@kegal]

David Cook nah becomes old hat after a while

[@cierankavanagh5875]

Does he have any proof though I've heard him before I find it hard to believe him

[@michaelfairweather4141]

Yes another bald drug lord!!

[@Migmaw]

John Abbot is that dude. Reminds me of family members. For dudes that do real time they become self aware and aware of every move sound and person around them just like someone that kills in service during war. They get that dead stare and calm. It's survival and pure animal instinct. Can't give props for his crimes but I give him props for sharing his stories

[@macysondheim]

Ain’t gonna get no props from me..

[@tedrogers5782]

This guy was more than a common criminal, he has ties to FBI handlers and covert intelligence actions including arms for drugs, Iran Contra gun running and domestic assassinations on US soil. Look up his relationship with Phillip Arthur Thompson and the murder of Paul Morasca.

[@DOOM-kronicills]

These podcasts are amazing and in depth , it boggles my mind that ur KZbin isn’t bigger keep up the good work daug

[@blackhole-chan4619]

Definitely one of the best podcasts on the channel, Shaun. Need more of John Abbott's stories!

[@frankcortez6949]

It's insane on how calm Jhon describes all these horrific stories!

[@macysondheim]

It’s John…

[@clapdrix72]

Zero empathy and extremely high intelligence - I'm surprised he didn't end up in business or politics. Seriously.

[@georgek2092]

He has empathy, he just isn't phased by much. You can tell he understands others emotionally, not just intellectually by the way he understands certain dynamics, but I can't put my finger on why.

[@rvanhees89]

@@georgek2092 he has learned how to come across as emphatic. Its all an act. This is the most dangerous kind of criminal and actually the most dangerous kind of human there is.

[@mariusetternavn6214]

@@rvanhees89 You are basing this on?

[@defaultusername123]

Lol but then he’d be a dirty crook

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

@@georgek2092 survivor

[@chariotdrvr14]

Geezus, ....this was indeed a fascinating interview. Well done!

[@kylewright528]

If your interviews have taught me anything Shaun, it's that ex con's needn't be defined by their pasts. We should be giving the right people space and opportunities to start fresh and add value to our society.

[@kenkrausse3624]

Did you look up his cold case and the poem ,gladit wasnt your daughter

[@ryan-majorbreakz5676]

I could listen to this blokes stories all day. He's got a way with words, and is definitely not a man to underestimate.

[@nickjeffrey8050]

I’m 46 minutes in and this is by far the best podcast I’ve listened to in a long long time!

[@Muscleupsanddangles]

I have never been to prison, but lived a hard life. I listen to these convicts and realize I think exactly as they do. Shame on any foolish person that judges men who have done time. We are not so different.

[@ethnicalbert]

This guy reminds me of an oldschool gunslinger in the wild west. Great content Shaun and John.

[@nastyham5302]

ethnicAlbert you were alive in the wild west era ?

[@ethnicalbert]

@@nastyham5302 i saw this thing called a movie once

[@data4790]

@@nastyham5302 it's not that long ago

[@clayevins6795]

I was thinking John Wayne myself

[@irishtony.2879]

They say a psychopath is born but a sociopath is made. It seems that American prison forces people to become sociopathic. And by sociopathic, I don't necessarily mean a guy who murders with abandon and hurts everyone they encounter. But someone who can easily compartmentalise their empathy, engage in behaviour that is anti social, and absolutely switch off emotion with relative ease. Would I be wrong in assuming that American jails are breeding grounds for sociopathic behaviour

[@rvanhees89]

I agree with you, it creates personality problems.

[@sykadelik459]

you are 100% correct. i used to have empathy before i went to prison. spent the last 20 years trying to find it again.

[@rvanhees89]

@@sykadelik459 thats terrible man, I feel for you... have you tried EMDR/Exposure therapy? It made me able to function (and feel) again.

[@Danielle33384]

IrishPatriotic absolutely

[@paddymills]

It's this and that , not this or that.

[@ft3342]

John, tells near death story... Shaun: "What was the layout like in San Quintin Prison?"

[@countvanbruno182]

This guy says "I'm not a tough guy" then talks about robbing drug dealers at gun point, shoot outs with the police, prison fights to the death, standing up to the heaviest hitters in the yard etc etc. The man is way way past tough on the hardness meter.

[@Timesend]

Lol from the outsider it seems that way, but I reckon it’s his up bringing that makes him feel “not tough”

[@klein955cc]

im the guy hiding behind him lol

[@damienholland8103]

@@klein955cc And I'm chilling in my cell don't mind me. Not interested in da politix.

[@anthonydelgrosso4818]

@@damienholland8103 u don't have a choice that won't work

[@geof98]

Best podcast I have heard in years.

[@roscoparker1920]

I like his stories, you can just "feel" the honesty.

[@bruhdon4748]

I want to see what John looked like before and after his sentence

[@jquest43]

@FranchiseLove he's CIA?

[@bruhdon4748]

@@jquest43what do you mean he’s CIA?

[@jotheakston2405]

These podcasts should come with an addiction warning! So interesting and heartbreaking at the same time. It gives you a whole different perspective people have in their lives and experiences.

[@raphaelpetrarca5049]

Fantastic podcast. Very eloquent story teller and loved the calm vibe. Keep it up Shaun your a legend. Peace and positivty.

[@dslkjvoxicuyhgl4554]

He reminds me SO much of someone I knew....his almost mono tone, his storytelling depth and style, his dry sense of humor, his verbal cadence. His name was Tim, I knew him from AA. He also was an ex con, and an extremely peaceful, yet imtimidating and obviously odd/quirky...but you knew he could easily kill you, without a change of facial expression. So eerie seeing this, it's like Tim is talking.

[@Randys4g]

I teach criminal justice courses and will have my students watch this and encourage them to subscribe. Captivating, real world stuff. Great Great job

[@dunkindoughnut167]

@@jamesgibson4275 he's not a rapist is he?

[@WarningBFG-isHiring]

@@jamesgibson4275 Citation needed.

[@dunkindoughnut167]

@david white 😂 okay, maybe next time.

[@g___________v6850]

@@jamesgibson4275 Wrong John Abbott dude

[@jamesgibson4275]

@@g___________v6850 Same guy... He sets off all sorts of sociopathic alarm bells.

[@JamesEnglish]

Another great podcast Shaun 👍🏼

[@rollyherrera623]

I never watch a movie this long; I get easily bored with them, but All of Shauns interviews show a perspective, of actual hope, in true human beings...Bad things DO happen to Good people! These interviews should provide everyone an introspective view of their own lives, and see that its not that bad..Shit happens! Love being reminded of that!

[@captaincluster316]

Fascinating stories, I could listen to John for days 👍

[@bearid4350]

can tell this man is smart af. great interviewer letting him speak and just keeping it moving not trying to trump stories.

[@dantheman9079]

i'd love to see John on the show again, he fascinates me. he seems to have a very nonchalant defence up, i reckon there's a bit more emotion to be seen from him especially around his brother.

[@BIRLZ95]

Good stuff Shaun, very interesting guest

[@levi13333333333]

One of the most interesting podcasts I’ve listened too ...Keep up the great work Shaun ..👌👌

[@75freeman]

Absolutely fascinating as usuall. Amazing how someone survives all these situations and remains sane

[@oops4485]

You're a great interviewer Shaun, really appreciate your guest today too, great insights. Have a lovely night, and happy St. Patrick's Day from Ireland! Lá Fhéile Pádraig sona duit!

[@DaMainDude]

Some people look like that they have their life experiences imprinted on their face -> John is definitely one of those people. He is also a very good and calm story teller - could listen to him all day. He doesn't brag about anything, you can really tell he is disgusted by these experiences.

[@LegalTyranny]

The higher the IQ the calmer the person. It's frontal lobe control over the limbic system. Guy does come across as a straight shooter.

[@mauryginsberg7720]

@@LegalTyranny Are you two sure you actually watched this interview? Or are you just being ironic?

[@LegalTyranny]

@@mauryginsberg7720 Do you have specific facts to point out contrary to ours or are you just posing empty questions?

[@mauryginsberg7720]

@@LegalTyranny Who is "ours" and what facts? This fella in this video is clearly a total fantasist.

[@LegalTyranny]

@@mauryginsberg7720 DaMainDude and I are the only other people commenting in this thread. You really bothered to ask that 2 weeks later? The facts being that people do get their most common facial expressions etched into their face. It's a simple matter of what muscles are used the most. You know, like weight lifting? In addition, the frontal lobe is well established as being the part of the brain that handles executive functions and dampens emotions in the limbic system. Don't waste my time trying to dispute that. The guy in the video may exaggerate some things or outright lie about others, but there is no doubt he has a very high IQ and he has lived an intense life. I'm not really interested in carrying this any further with you as you seem like the type who is more concerned with getting in the last word than making a useful point.

[@EnclaveRCR]

Favourite line "robbing drug dealers warmed my heart" 😎😂

[@Lemonhead86]

We need a part 2! Thumps up. Get him back. Great storyteller.

[@AngelaShiflet]

I agree.

[@jabbahursty]

having looked this guy up, i have no clue how he is a free man ever

[@bruhdon4748]

Dude got away with rape murder & kidnapping...the woman’s death is still not solved

[@davidsharp2050]

Wwwhat !!!

[@davidsharp2050]

@@bruhdon4748 Wwwhat !!!

[@davidsharp2050]

It's called the "Best Justice Money can buy " ( sic )

[@urchill1]

@@bruhdon4748 ..is this the same guy?

[@Curdle7]

This guy is awesome I loved every minute of it great choice for a interview

[@HudsonDr1]

Keep up the good work Shaun - podcasts are getting better and better. The more old timers the better

[@michaelferreri1256]

I want to hear every story this guy can remember. A unique angle you rarely hear about. Extremely interesting human being.

[@pop-4567]

"Mana" Great to listen to a man tell his story that has that presence of inner Mana. Cheers John All The Best Mate.

[@h20overdose]

This guy deserves a movie man for real.

[@derekweinerttv4163]

A mini series on hbo !

[@townbythetown]

@Pretty fly for a WiFi where can i find more info on him?

[@ethiopianeritreanjewellery5241]

He would do a great voice over narration on his own movie... little like Dustin Hoffman compelling voice that you have to listen to

[@dub16100]

These 2 should take it on the road. They have good chemistry, play well off each other and the stories are great.

[@zovalentine7305]

There's just a strange vibe I got listening to this entire broadcast 🤔 that's a 1st for me after watching so many of your vids, Shaun.

[@jquest43]

He's murdered women

[@elsapadilla2897]

@@jquest43 he definitely seems strange

[@roxannelilymaria7365]

Sociopath energy tbf

[@awilliams310]

Amazing. One of the best interviews I've ever watched.

[@Dannydawson537]

Fantastic vid watched it from start to finish without a break 😊

[@aegontargaryen9322]

This is one of the best interviews I’ve ever seen . Be it social media , tv etc

[@patmustard8795]

This guy talks like he’s Native American

[@Tuberuser187]

Hes picked up a Canadian accent, not surprising as he seems naturally skilled at fitting in places.

[@murder13love]

Sounds Canadian to me

[@chrisvig123]

Christopher Walkens Talks

[@rukus9585]

Sounds like a dick garage to me.

[@rukus9585]

@@Tuberuser187 people got used to fitting in his places.

[@armind7]

These interviews are superb Shaun.Some of the blokes you get on have some incredible stories.I’ll have one of these on in the background & they’re brilliant to listen to.

[@bradleyparfitt1208]

Love all of Shaun’s podcasts, just wish he had one everyday

I think this was your best interview yet, riveting. I could listen to this guy all day long. Great channel.

[@michaelread2067]

Same moves as Robert Redford. You sure he didn't play opposite Paul Newman in Butch Cassidy. He's gotta get a job in the movies. I thought I'd watch 5 minutes and stayed to see the lot.

[@JamesR23]

Michael Read interesting observation

[@desfarrell909]

Agree. Great podcast.

[@platonicbuu7454]

I realized an hour in that it wasn't a partial segment lol

[@403patriot3]

So much wisdom right here, If you would listen to anybody on the pitfalls of a life of crime this man has got that wisdom

[@davidvaughan9375]

excellent interview! Especially captivating guest

[@Matty217]

I’ve rewatched this 3 times now. Just a fantastic podcast start to finish!

[@shaunattwoodOFFICIAL]

did you see parts 2 & 3?

[@cduffy4925]

@@shaunattwoodOFFICIAL just butting in, yes. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Matty217]

2, 3 and 4 now

[@derekweinerttv4163]

Yo this guy is to cool!! Favourite guest yet! Pleaze have him on more!!!!

[@10use]

What a wealth of stories and life lessons expressed so articulately...Please Encore this Guest!

[@cduffy4925]

4th time listening to this 👍🏻. John is relaxing to listen to and the stories are wild....

[@shaunattwoodOFFICIAL]

part 4 monday

[@cduffy4925]

@@shaunattwoodOFFICIAL superb 👌🏻

[@algonquinbriar5647]

Hello Shaun. Another exceptional interview. I appreciate how you let your guests talk and interject at appropriate moments. Keep up the great work. Be well mate.

[@paulbelcher7059]

Great interview Shaun. Love the way you leave the fella to it

[@MatteoMontanari73]

You 2 guys are so good communicating both verbally and non verbally. You're very good

[@papakyriakouandreas]

I'm only 1 hour in, but this guy is fantastic, this is a great podcast!

[@BVonBuescher]

Great guest! I did time with an old school convict in LA County once. Guy has the same demeanor, told some fascinating stories about San Quinten and Folsom back in the day. The joint was a whole different experience back then. John reminds me a lot of him

[@LegalTyranny]

I think John has a lot more stories to tell but I don't think he's in a position to tell them. What a shame. Several of these higher IQ guys definitely have good interviews and I'd love to hear more of their life stories...what ever they can share.

[@camgood4277]

This is beautiful, and his words are EXACTLY what I need right now (particularly, toward the end). Helps a lot, really.. Thanks!

[@stalyjohn9347]

Well done Shawn , you knew when to let him talk and when to help direct him, Say hello to wildman, top lad , From Somerset England

[@nickjeffrey8050]

Where in Somerset u from? I live in Weston super mare

[@bradleyg7498]

@@nickjeffrey8050 same

[@nickjeffrey8050]

Bradley Gretton no way u seriously live here too?

[@bradleyg7498]

@@nickjeffrey8050 Yeh, small world i guess.

[@stalyjohn9347]

Yeovil

[@kathleenvallance7222]

Brian Vallance here mate you may never READ this but as a X. Criminal. I really appreciate you and your Show. THANKS VERY MUCH MATE.

[@CorinneWoods]

I know how this guy can make millions legally. WRITE A BOOK. I’d buy it and I’d tell my friends to buy it too. This guy had me glued the screen for 2 1/2 hours!

[@jamesmaybray2619]

He did write a book many years ago called the Belly of the beast.

[@jcamillo66]

I just can't get over you Shaun! You are truly an amazing person! Love ALL of your work! Thanks so much for bringing this all out!

[@oranbhoy67]

A very smart guy, I would have liked to have heard more of his life in the UK and how he came to own a lot of property in New Zealand that he abandoned when it was revealed who he was, there are no warrants for him anywhere but US cops "would like to speak to him" about Valerie's murder.. so why the fear?? .. also a few things don't add up in this story, as you ( Shaun) rightly questioned he should have been giving extra time for escaping, I don't believe he was black ops CIA but it has been proven his accomplice was..and also proved that he was also a rapist/Murderer.. as for Valerie McDonald a few things don't add up, he doesn't mention that he skipped town to go to Canada when Valerie went missing,.. - the whole Canada thing seemed random did it not?- or that Valerie's body was found next to the Canadian border or that as well as her jacket and hair there was also receipts for cement and digging implements found in Abbots car .. I'm glad you got this guy on camera .. lets see will he come in again and discuss that part of his life & why he doesn't simply sue the media for slander if he is so confident that he played no part in Valerie's murder

[@hempybubbles6811]

Theirs so many points that just don't add up and how he didn't get his face slapped off his shoulders at least twice is beyond me.., I get a gut feeling he chatts a little shit.., and wild man would eat this guy if he tried robbing Shaun :)

[@francisdoran8992]

@Oliver Eales I dont no how i cant leave the Country.

[@danielowens6312]

Much love from south Carolina, USA. Love the content keep it coming Shawn, I'm a big fan of your channel

[@moto1p1]

I have a friend who did several years in Folsom and San Quentin in the early 70's to the early 80's. He told me about a guy in San Quentin they called "Pin Cushion Smitty" that was stabbed 60+ times and lived.

[@riboid]

John is right about this incumbent survivor instinct we all have, which suburban life for most of us has suppressed. I stay in the UK but I work in Nigeria and when travelling with armed guards for my first few trips, the adrenaline rush was amazing and still amazed at scary places to a certain degree. The thought of being in a dangerous place excited me. It pales to insignificance with John's stories though, but you know what I mean.

[@dunkindoughnut167]

This guy is so interesting. Scary but cool. Great Podcast!