Sanders vs. Warren with Nathan J. Robinson | Useful Idiots

[@DrSourPurp]

Seriously becoming my favorite podcast lately. I live in Iowa and trying hard to get Bernie Sanders elected. Really love all the takes and the guests you guys have had... should come to Iowa and go to some rallies and events and talk to people. Love journalists like you guys. Keep up the great work.

[@lindalefteast2452]

DrSourPurp we applaud you !👏👏👏

[@smuuthbrane7029]

By any means necessary Bernie 2020

[@selalewis9189]

Keep up the great work out there! We’re rooting for you 🤗🤜🏾🤛🏻

[@indiesindie1984]

Thank you

[@dmkmich]

Warren is a liar and a cheat. It starts with claiming Native American heritage for her own personal gain, and it continues with hiding in 2016 to protect her ass and undermining 2020 for her own personal gain. She has pissed me off, screwed Bernie, screwed us all. I will vote Third party if she is the candidate. She doesn’t believe even 50% of what she is saying. Russia is no threat to our elections. The treat is the media and the Democrats.

[@mattmallorca]

Love the way Matt & Katie look like they are through a window in another room in this episode

[@michaelreich9714]

Since it's looking like 1968 more and more, keep one thing in mind. The Vice President has become the moral equivalent of Assassination Insurance.

[@larryhovekamp4318]

Can't wait for Melissa McCarthy to do an impersonation of Spicer disco dancing and conga drumming on SNL. And then get sick.

[@imalwaysbluffing]

I always thought that Harry Reid literally looked like Seymour Hersh. I googled a picture of him and realized I was just imagining Seymour Hersh in my head.

[@ericpmoss]

"Capitalist to the bone" is either a pathology, an article of religious faith, or pandering. Strike 3.

[@estebandelgado2002]

Great podcast! Would love to see Marianne Williamson on. She speaks to deeper levels than just policy changes, as important as they are.

[@earlcox6293]

yea! Nathan Robinson has a cup with pictures of Noam Chomsky.

[@andrisig]

I really hope Matt reads the book. Not being a socialist in these times just doesn't make any sense.

[@IMP3TIGO]

16:36 LOL. That was my reaction as well. Maybe I'm missing something here.

[@thedancingveganatheist6310]

Katie Halper, please do a standup tour immediately. Hypothetically, maybe come to Madison, WI first...

[@spirithawk9282]

Hey, could you pop for A POSTER on your blank white radio-ready wall? Farrah Fawcett maybe? Useful Idiots for Dummies? Batman and Robin? A MAP?!?!!!

[@thehumanity0]

What I would say to Matt Taibbi is You don't have to choose between either being a Capitalist or Socialist, there is this term called Social Democracy and it's essentially the Scandinavian model where you have a Capitalist economy mixed with more social programs that are government funded. This is what Sanders platform represents even if he, himself, refers to himself as a Democratic Socialist. Bernie has never made any remark or single indication that he would ever want a future where the government makes all goods and services. He simply just wants to take some services off the table that should not be profited off of because they are basic human necessities such as Healthcare and Education.

[@tomheylen]

My respect for Rolling Stone is pretty much restored by giving you guys and more specifically actual people on the left a platform. Really enjoy your podcast.

[@vinanoir]

you might enjoy The Majority Report and The Michael Brooks Show.

[@Bisquick]

@@vinanoir Michael Brooks is awesome. I hope he gets on here at some point especially cuz Matt's been on his show in the past.

[@jordanallen3078]

@@vinanoir Yea, the Majority Report, where Hillary Clinton and all the other neoliberal trash gets glowing reviews...it's AS IF you're watching corporate media. So awesome!

[@dfez6884]

Watch Jamarl Thomas! He is a progressive and usually finds a way to connect current politics to a historical context

[@jordanallen3078]

@@dfez6884 Jamarl is a badass. 👍

[@JamesWilliams-zq5uq]

There is no middle ground with corporate interests, and the interests of the people. Thats why I support Bernie. I'm a 61 year old white male.

[@burtosis]

Good thing we can meet climate change half way, build a wall and make the ocean pay for it. I'm sure Mother Nature is very agreeable and will see the value in compromise.

[@noneofyourbusiness4616]

And Bernie is an 78 year old white male. Brave of you to support someone so radically different.

[@tripp8833]

James Williams , You need to support Warren. She has a much better chance in winning, she’s crushing him in the polls, & she’s a solid progressive.

[@burtosis]

@tripp warrens so progressive she rolled millions in corporate donations from her senate run into her primary campaign after promising not to take corporate money in the primary. She already sold us out, Bernie never will he's the most consistent canidate in history and never has taken big money. Ever.

[@6idangle]

Bless you, the rare nonchud ethical boomer. Much love James ;p

[@torchlightlms]

Bernie has my heart and my vote.

[@coclo27]

People LOVE Bernie. I don't know anyone who LOVES the other candidates.

[@burtosis]

My heart, vote, and as of a few minutes ago, another donation.

[@nagapalepu9612]

I Love Bernie Too but Dems screwed him over in 2016 and in 2020 Andrew Yang has that same Bernie feeling!

[@tripp8833]

Elle Moss . Warren is way better than Bernie. More specific plans, more depth of knowledge of various issues. Plus, she isn’t 90 and can actually win

[@burtosis]

Plus warren rolled millions in corporate donations she already had from her senate run into her primary campaign after claiming money was the problem and promising to go corporate donor free in the primary. Warren has already sold us out. She says the right stuff, mostly, but it's copied from Bernie and she is cozying up to large monied interests if she makes the general. Warrens plans involve small incremental changes which republicans will push back on hard along with her donors and we will get 4 more years of barely anything will fundamentally change.

[@niccolea2086]

I seriously doubt that if Warren wins she’d choose Sanders as her VP. I’m sure the DNC has someone else (anyone else) in mind. And I think Sanders should be able to choose someone who truly supports his vision. These party leaders should not only stop but be replace.

[@tacolove892]

Thumbs up even though your statement was a bit inconprehensible.

[@dashx1103]

Tim Kaine.

[@robertmartin2936]

Warren would be better served as Chair of the Federal Reserve

[@aichpvee]

Niccole A She’ll probably pick a Tim Kane.

[@Les537]

She couldn't win a coin toss with 100 tries. I think the dems want to lose. I think they want anyone other than Bernie - and of course Tulsi.

[@susanwisner1681]

Warren clapped when Trump said that this will never be a socialist country and Bernie sat down and frowned.

[@Teremei]

absolutely and voted for TRUMP's bloated military budget. She's a fraud as far as I'm concerned.

[@thehumanity0]

All of this pales in comparison to how she claimed to be a "100% grassroots funded campaign", and then we just found out she collected corporate PAC money and used big money bundlers in her 2018 bid and moved over around $10 million to her 2020 campaign, completely LYING to us and betraying the trust of anyone who was contemplating voting for her. In addition to already admitting she will take corporate money in the general election. This is more important than anything because money is the root of what corrupts politicians.

[@jasonkrainert1579]

Do you know what socialism is and what Bernie believes? There is a difference.

[@timbuck2505]

@Susan Wisner This is a very accurate discription of the power shift that happened in the Democratic Party prior to Bernie Sanders elevating his message and where it stands now. ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6fciWCca8-SbKc

[@bernlin2000]

And there's the division, right there. Americans simply don't understand socialism enough to know how much it could empower workers (at the cost of greedy corporations, which we've come to worship as a secular religion). We're too busy mindless being enslaved by our brands and creature comforts to notice the giant boot on our heads.

[@hyaanzoategui]

The fact that this is Rolling Stone is quite big. I'm so happy to have a large platform host such real and honest people. Thank you Rolling Stone and thank you to the hosts, I really enjoy this show.

[@acomatosemob]

WARren has already used corporate money in this primary. She's a hypocrite.

[@worldshaper1723]

You gotta say trigger warning before

[@barbodjahed2399]

Warren's fine... she's fine honestly she's better than the other outcomes. Bernie is gonna get Corbyned. So, Warren's fine

[@NyetTube]

@@barbodjahed2399 Fine😂 republican lite politicians are NEVER fine.

[@joolzvega7298]

@@barbodjahed2399 in the way that Obama was fine, which gave us Trump.

[@BinHexOctal]

@@joolzvega7298 That is exactly what I keep telling people. We got Trump because of Obama. If we get another do nothing centrist, we'll get worse than Trump.

[@karlhaynes3090]

Warren keeps giving Trump lots of money for the Pentagon!

[@acomatosemob]

WARren is fauxgressive, and will throw us under the bus same as what Hillary Clinton did in 2016.

[@acomatosemob]

I have no faith WARren will stop or slow the American genocide of poor indigenous brown/black people for their natural resources, but hey! she wants to make our MIT more greeeeeeeen! Wooo!!

[@Notecrusher]

@@acomatosemob YES. Remember when we were sold on another "liberal" Massachusetts senator in 2004? She's just another pro-Israel corporatist, militarist Democrat.

[@vishalnarayanaswamy8426]

Have never clicked on a video as fast as this one after seeing the title. This is becoming my new favorite podcast.

[@jocosus3]

Thank you, Katie, for calling out the double standard when it comes to MSM coverage of Sanders campaign & supporters vs everyone else. Establishment Dems/The Oligarchy/MSM will do ANYTHING to prevent Sanders from winning the Democratic nomination. Progressive voters need to turn out in the primary (and then in 2020) to vote for Sanders and prove them all wrong. #Bernie2020

[@stacyoneill4218]

Warren: I want to regulate the system Sanders: I want to change the system

[@Dowlphin]

Oh yeah, listen to the words of a politican who disappoints with his actions. Sanders also basically promises rainbows and unicorns if he becomes president. Like Trump, Sanders is a narcissist, but at least Trump isn't in denial about it. (It's a Dem tradition to be the ones with the elaborate BS. Reps are more shamelessly open.) Bernie Sanders' initials should wake people up, hah.

[@bananafish58]

That's it in a nutshell!!!

[@subversivelysurreal3645]

Stacy Oneill : it’s strictly #Bernie, baby❤️✊🏾🌎✌🏾💯

[@subversivelysurreal3645]

Dowlphwin : life must be a bitter barrel of apples laden with razor-blades for you…🍎

[@susanwisner1681]

He is a Democratic socialist. She is a "capitalist to her bones." You are being way too soft on her.

[@ericpmoss]

I agree. "Capitalist to the bone" is either a pathology, an article of religious faith, or pandering.

[@Dowlphin]

Sanders is not a socialist. That's just his favorite self-perception, his own version of narcissism to boost his troubled ego. Someone once said it best: Sanders is a 1930s Democrat. Call him a "social democrat" at best, but the Dems are supposed to be social anyway, and we have a party with that label in Germany, too. Political labels are usually bullshit.

[@bernlin2000]

@@ericpmoss Sounds like a religion to me...these people worship corporations like they're the second coming of Jesus Christ.

[@bernlin2000]

@Yo Momma He identifies as a democratic socialist: I think the man himself is allowed to use that definition as he wants to. True, in any other country he would be a moderate social Democrat, but in the US (where we've gone off the capitalist cliff multiple times, particularly during the 2007-2008 housing crisis) he's very much part of the "far left". Americans are discovering through him, however, just how common sense our supposed "far left" is...because we let our political ruling elite in DC take us further than further rightward, for almost half a century now.

[@itzenormous]

Actually, Bernie Sanders is what's called a Social Democrat. He's a reformer ... a Keynesian. He's not a Socialist, he doesn't advocate for revolution and the purging of the bourgeoisie. And I hate the introduction of the term "Democratic" Socialist as if there's any other kind.

[@SamAdamsDesigns]

I saw angelicas tweets and the responses to them, I’ve been following Angelica for years and am a fan of hers. None of the Bernie supporters were doing anything other than making sound arguments for why she shouldn’t slander Bernie.

[@TCt83067695]

Did she apologize eventually?

[@SamAdamsDesigns]

TCt83067695 She originally had corrected herself for her assumptions but then after the event happened, she came for him again for some reason. She’s probably just surrounded by a lot of shallow liberals who support warren because she has a vagina.

[@laurenbray8314]

Yep, as I watched AHS the other night with her in it I was just like I cant believe this chick. Nice of her to crap on her own fans that are Bernie supporters.

[@stacyfiske7903]

thats what I thought! I was like, those are critical opinions.. not assaults! wtf??

[@IshtarNike]

I saw the article with the headline Katie mentioned. She should have made it clear that those are the quoted tweets from the article itself. They couldn't even cherry pick a nasty one or two. ALL of them were standard reasoned rebuttals.

[@TheOriginalSMASH]

I'd recommend those who are unsure which progressive candidate to choose and the difference between Bernie and Warren, go watch Secular Talks video, "Very Clear & Simple Reasons To Vote Bernie Over Warren" He goes into great detail differentiating the two.

[@ahalpert]

It's a great overview 👍

[@PirateDynamics]

your mic stands are the same brand as my guitar stand and that's how I know you bought the cheapest thing at Sam Ash

[@6idangle]

lololololololol

[@omnibusprimephd7914]

Lmao hey me too

[@brucemarmy8500]

Thanks for Trumping in the show, it is important

[@bongodave13]

They're sitting at a table. How good do the stands need to be?

[@PirateDynamics]

@@bongodave13 they seem to be doing a great job

[@danielthomas9843]

#1 - Sanders, #2 - ...also Sanders, #3 - Warren, #4 - [sigh] whatever Democrat gets the nomination. But seriously, it has to be Sanders.

[@vannakinder352]

3 Kindaish Yang/Tulsi (still have criticisms of both one on their more libbertarian beliefs and the other's problematic foreign policy positions) 4-I will write in Sanders/DeBlassio.

[@aichpvee]

3. Marianne; 4. Bernie

[@sebbywarcraft3398]

Have you looked into Andrew Yang?

[@aichpvee]

@@sebbywarcraft3398 yes, he's an idiot

[@YourMajesty143]

Mine is #1 - Sanders, my #2 - Tulsi/Yang ⬅ I like some of their policies, but Tulsi's been disappointing lately with her voting for Trump's increased military budget just like Warren, her wavering away from M4A, and her cozying up to Modi & her poor response to the crisis in Kashmir....and Yang has issues in that he mistakenly refuses to tax wealth class or go after Silicon Valley, he wants to prosecute Assange, and he's weak on foreign policy and comprehensive educational reform. His climate proposal is also very unrealistic bc there's alot of reliance on untested technologies that aren't even close to being ready for mass implementation (nuclear fusion, thorium & molten salt reactors, space mirrors, etc). He naively puts too much faith in them without understand the amount of time it takes to build these plants (nuclear power can take anywhere from 12 to 43 years!), which doesn't work within the deadline to reduce our CO2 levels. They also have dangerous consequences, nuclear power being incredibly volatile and waste-inefficient. His plan sounds "cool" to the uninformed, but there's alot of problems with it. *BUT* at least he and Tulsi created their own climate plans, while Warren aka "Ms. I have a plan for that" apparently DIDN'T have a plan, and hijacked Jay Inslee's proposal when he dropped out. Warren is #4 for me, only bc she also hijacked alot of Bernie's ideas and I hope she's smart enough to include him as VP or in a cabinet position. Obviously I'd choose any of them over neoliberals, but luckily I don't have to choose a lesser evil. Thank goodness for Bernie or I'd be sweating trying to weigh my vote for the others. His integrity and consistent record fighting for the people makes my decision a no-brainer.

[@solid1378]

Matt should start watching Democracy at Work with Professor Doctor Richard Wolff, for an education on Socialism...😏

[@RonGavalik]

Big love for this podcast, and I don’t even listen to podcasts. I’m a boring readerrrrrr. Anyhoo, Katie and Matt are a perfect team. Good job.

[@worldshaper1723]

Trigger Warning: I do not think the guy that got beaten up by the police for channing himself to 2 black women in from of a Buldozer in a civil rights March in the 60s, is gonna disappoint us.

[@noneofyourbusiness4616]

i'm sure he'll get beaten up again for you

[@YourMajesty143]

He got manhandled and dragged, not necessarily beat up. And it was for a civil rights protest where Bernie chained himself to 2 black women laying down in front of a bulldozer. I'm a die-hard Bernie supporter, and I love that he marched with MLK, but let's get our facts straight so that Bernie dissenters don't accuse us of misinformation.

[@worldshaper1723]

@@YourMajesty143 Shit, thank you for correcting me!

[@funglegunk]

Re: Sean Spicer. Is there *any* chance he would be on Dancing with the Stars without Melissa McCarthy's impression of him? Is it possible that her caricature of him humanised and normalised him to the point where he was considered for this show? I'm not 100% on this, but I think the satire that SNL tends to pursue, making fun of Spicer's mannerisms etc rather than what he was actually doing (gross, gross lying on behalf of a criminal administration), normalises hated figures in mainstream culture? Just a thought!

[@tonydimeo1882]

funglegunk That is a remarkable insight. The problem with Saturday night live is that they only satirize people based on personalities not policies. Saturday night live is run by rich pricks who don’t care about policies.

[@rmarbertin8131]

Twice, two days in a row, Spicer said something "anti-semitic", adjacent stating in plain english for everyone that our mission was to "destabilize Syria". Of course, MSM cherry picks their clips tightly, but it was a nice try.

[@Sendarya]

I...hadn't thought of that before. It certainly sounds plausible! That seems to be the problem with a lot of comedians of late, even ones I had/have loved.

[@TCt83067695]

Oh my gosh that's very interesting. Never considered that. So I've thought about it and decided that it might not be the case. If Trump got a spot on the show, it wouldnt work despite Alec Baldwin's depiction. So I think the factor at fault here is actually the dereliction of journalistic duty by the media that often does a dreadful job reminding the public of heinous crimes these loathsome figures committed when they inevitably crawl back out of their rock for that public image rehabilitation tour. Like everyone has been making fun of the stupid green shirt, but Kate is the first media outlet that actually reminded me about his 'Hitler didn't gas his own people' gaffe. So my tldr is: I think media is at fault not comedians. Besides they won't have had to come in to fill the void if journalists actually informed the public like they are supposed to.

[@jivet3919]

Ya the corporate media has a way of rehabilitating these vile sub humans. Look at George Bush, his image was totally restored.

[@yarweiss]

I genuinely listen to too many podcasts, but this one is actually especially good 👍

[@banonKING]

The study about suicide is another example why extreme wealth is bad for rich dudes too.

[@tonydimeo1882]

Bryan Newton Right because those guys get rich thinking 🤔 it will make them happy then find out wealth doesn’t make their lives fulfilling and they’re depressed

[@babygerald4645]

And another reason why billionaires shouldn't exist.

[@Chipiliro613]

Is Dancing with the Stars our version of The Hunger Games?

[@jimclarke7387]

Break up the banks which are too large to fail or nationalize them.

[@Dowlphin]

New motto: Too large needs to fail.

[@Gigika313]

Vote for the candidate that will make your life better, Bernie 2020.

[@sebbywarcraft3398]

Allen Gigika Respectfully disagree. Andrew Yang’s policies are what Americans need.

[@Gigika313]

Sebby Warcraft I get it, agree to disagree My number one issue is healthcare for all and make sure that we have single payer. No other candidate is for that and showing that they are willing to fight for it when in office like Bernie.

[@sebbywarcraft3398]

Allen Gigika That’s a bold assumption lol Andrew Yang is, his approach is different, rather than pull the rug from under those who actually like their private insurers, he’d rather present M4A as the better option and as people start to realize the government-induced competition, as well as private companies who will then lower their prices so that they are more affordable, those companies will either have to match those costs more or less or be close down. www.yang2020.com/policies/medicare-for-all/ In addition to that, Bernie’s policies aren’t in it for the long-run and don’t help Americans as much as some people may think whereas Yang’s does.

[@Gigika313]

Sebby Warcraft actually it’s quiet the opposite if private health insurance stay around they will eventually take all the healthy patients and leave the sick to m4A, and eventually cut their funds..you know as they do now, 2: ubi without price anchors is horrible for the future, look at what happened in Finland when they tried it, It’s as if I’m speaking to a republican, but if that’s the case then welcome to the left Only Bernie.

[@sebbywarcraft3398]

If by price anchors, you specifically mean curtailing asinine housing, education, and healthcare expense, then yes there are and he has policies that address these individually. Using Finland as an example doesn’t prove anything except the benefits that can come from UBI. Those in that study that reduced the amount of time they worked primarily did it to spend that time to raise their kids, which is just as valuable, if not more, than any 9-5 job. On the other hand, a version of UBI has been in effect in Alaska for several decades now, and as their oil is what funds their dividend, for the rest of America, it will be the tech check, funded by our data that we’ve seen no returns on. It’s the 21st century and data is now even more valuable then oil, this is how we move our country forward in the right direction.

[@sanmigueltv]

Bernie all the way. I think Yang has some good ideas for the future but I don’t think he’ll catch up to Bernie.

[@chumplafayette9561]

I'm a sketch artist! Hire me!

[@skoto8219]

DM Matt on Twitter

[@rdpatterson2682]

"we can't unilaterally disarm from the corrupt money..." -- E. Warren Warren is completely unelectable besides.

[@acomatosemob]

Tulsi would be 100% better as VP than WARren.

[@DogTrekker]

Absolutely!!!

[@SuperSpidey313]

Amen. Hope she takes aim against WARren

[@TheHuxleyAgnostic]

Tulsi has an Hindutva issue.

[@funglegunk]

I'm looking forward to Nathan converting Matt to socialism. Please record that conversation!

[@chriserickson4803]

I heard the WFP vote breakdown was 50/50 between leaders and members, which means if the leaders voted 100% for Warren, then the membership could have voted for Bernie as much as 78% and still lose.

[@NFenchak1]

You guys talk a mad coffee mug game but then Nathan J Robinson flashes that Chomsky mug and you look like fools.

[@tonydimeo1882]

Nathan F He’s great 👍🏾

[@jaime8318]

On the term "Socialism" Russia was foermly the USSR. The "R" stand for Republic. So is it fair to characterize Republicans Russian sympathizers?

[@punchcat0736]

Any surprise really Warren has been in meetings with Wallstreet now for a year btw Warren and the senate could’ve pressed charges on those Wallstreet CEOs But didn’t kinda says everything,it was just a show for the left

[@jasonborne8510]

punchrover YES!! she’s a crook

[@summertime69]

You're going to blame her for the fact that an entire Senate body which was controlled by Republicans didnt press charges, a thing that Congress doesnt actually have the power to do?

[@punchcat0736]

Karen Cole blaming the republicans is BS of course they wouldn’t have allowed it but she could’ve made an attempt but she didn’t Actions speak louder than words Shes a dog and pony show

[@BuoyancyOfLoyalty]

Oh my god, that trigger warning got me good haha. Love it.

[@nathanjo1376]

16:00 - you should give a sarcasm warning before you give the "trigger warning"... ... I hate when I don't get a sarcasm warning... it really messes me up for days sometimes... :D

[@PhatLvis]

Warren's pledge is like a fiancee promising to be true UNTIL the wedding day.

[@PhatLvis]

If Warren really cared about beating Trump, she wouldn't be trying to subvert the first real grassroots political movement of our lifetime - a movement that Would Have Defeated Trump. The obvious best move would have been to pitch in and help strengthen/expand Bernie's bloc - the incredible phenomenon that sprang full-blown onto the scene in '16.

[@xGaMErZzZPrOx]

The sketch artist can't know that you are describing Harry Reed before coming on the show. If they know who you are describing beforehand they will be drawing from their memory of his face and not just your description of him.

[@Chipiliro613]

Does Matt know he's an Anarchist? 'I want everyone to have as little power as possible...'

[@pyotrkropotkin406]

Steven Kileen Anarchy is the best system for equality and to prevent world devastation. Everyone with as equal and as little power as possible is when humans will finally be free from oppression. That does mean no more corporations too. Does Matt know he's an anarchist? He might be smart enough not to label himself knowing that many people will shut down and stop listening when they hear that word.

[@pyotrkropotkin406]

@David Morris No it means living without rulers but not living without rules. If you need to be ruled and you need to follow a "leader" that's on you. I suggest you try to empower yourself and grow out of that childish phase.

[@rogersweetjr1123]

Murdering people in the streets...no I think you're thinking of capitalism....

[@jessewood3196]

Best part of Rolling Stone, right here

[@blendmaster3456]

I'm loving this podcast. Really hope it keeps running for a long time!

[@tonydimeo1882]

That woman playing the victim after Sanders supporters responded to her on Twitter is ridiculous.

[@sikavik]

I love Nathan Robinson’s article. I don’t agree, however, that Warren should be VP. I do not trust her at all. #BernieNina2020

[@noneofyourbusiness4616]

guess what? you have to work with people who don't 100% agree with you to get anything done in the American political system

[@sikavik]

@@noneofyourbusiness4616 Guess what? Compromising from the beginning with the forces of corporate greed & the war machine is what got us into this mess. Warren '20 is like Obama of '08 - lots of progressive rhetoric mixed with backdoor deals with the establishment elites & taking tons of their evil money $$$. The Tea Party has won: the Dem establishment hemorrhaged over a thousand seats in the govt during Obama's reign, & friggin Trump is prez. We need to be as uncompromising in our progressive & democratic-socialist values as the Tea Party was in their conservative, racist, & fascist values. No more corporate/centrist/warmonger wolves in sheep's clothing like Warren & Obama!!

[@noneofyourbusiness4616]

@@sikavik I have no argument with you as long as you vote Democratic if he doesn't win the nomination. Because anyone who doesn't do so is throwing a lot of vulnerable people who need non-psychotic government services under the bus. This overdramatic rhetoric of "they're all evil except Bernie" has the obvious consequence of discouraging voter turnout if he doesn't win and handing it to the Republicans who benefit with lower turnout. I don't mind being unhappy with Democrats as long as it is completely based in reality and isn't full of bullshit like "they're all the same," because that is obviously not true. Anyone making that claim is fucking over everyone the Republicans have in their crosshairs.

[@sikavik]

@@noneofyourbusiness4616 @None of Your Business Please look up "imperial privilege". The "vulnerable people" you are talking about are all within US borders. American lives are not more important than the thousands of Iraqi, Libyan, Yemeni, Honduran & other lives destroyed by the imperial warmongering policies of Dem politicians like Clinton & Obama.

[@frigoavi]

needs to be a one and a half to two hour show.

[@mordantfilms]

I love the way you two work with each other. Waiting a week for the next show is sometimes unbearable, but I look so forward to it!

[@3773elle]

The best duo in town, maybe the world. (Matt and Katy - not Bernie and Liz or Sean and mate) so far. You guys are brilliant together.

[@MarcieJaffee]

Katie Halper: "bury the hatchet?" LOL I love this show!

[@no-dg2vl]

Matt is gonna be on dancing with the stars

[@PapaGolfRomeo]

Its uncanny that we had almost a 100yrs to prepare and strengthen the Labor movement and workers rights in the country, not just for factory assembly line workers, but for teachers, for miners, the service industry so that what we are seeing now with USPS, teachers rights, Wal-Mart, uber, McDonalds etc could have been mitigated. What happened instead was, we kept fighting the petty battles against each other and the Industries that needed the Laborers just had enough time to make the jump to Technological advancements, first with IT, then with Automation and now with AI. We were always redundant, but now they have made people of the world a disposable commodity. Amazing! The Green New Deal, combined with UBI and Medicare for all, might be one of the only ways forward to survive for the working class.

[@lindalefteast2452]

I love your podcasts! Absolutely hilarious introduction about Sean Spicer 😊 Thank you for clarifying the differences between Liz and Bernie !

[@studentsforourrevolution2332]

This podcast is a gold mine!! Thank you Rolling Stone 💎

[@taiwanjohn]

You guys should get Thomas Frank on for an interview one of these days. That would be a ton of fun. ;-)

[@teresamonley2136]

.Hi Matt, Hi Katie, I really enjoy your show. It helps me get through one boring work hour a week. I was wondering why you didn't mention Tulsi Gabbards effusive praise of Modi. I keep wondering what her real take on all the injustice his administration promotes in India. Indian Nationalism is his MO. But I 'd like to know how she regards Modi's policies of discrimination and promotion of anti Muslim actions. I write this as someone who is intrigued and glad to hear her anti war rhetoric. Please have her on again and find out where she stands. Thanks

[@ThePhilosogamer]

Well, I'm not Matt or Katie, Teresa, but I did see Tulsi Gabbard address your question at least to an extent just before watching this podcast. I've linked and time stamped when the question comes up for your convenience (Modi is addressed in Krystal's follow up question) kzbin.info/www/bejne/moOupH2vbpenb6M I think a longer discussion would be required to work through all of her reasoning, but it's a start.

[@paulhansen5053]

Perhaps I can help illuminate while, of course, not speaking for Tulsi. Hindus are the indigenous peoples of "Bharat Bhumi" (the original name of India) with an ancient wonderful culture. They were invaded in the 700's AD by the Muslims and brutally subjugated for over 800 years. Search "Hindu holocaust". Then came the British. After 150 years of repressive rule, as a parting shot they partitioned India and another few million people died. Since 1947, Modi is the first PM that has cared for India over the West. If that is "nationalism" then I say let's give them a chance. Modi started programs to lift millions out of poverty. He's not a fascist and I don't even think he's right wing. He's tough on militant Islam, but he actually needs to be. Most people in the West can't imagine what it's like there. He is the PM of India. The US should be allied with India. We should be allied with Russia also, but somehow liberals have become rather insane and are completely messing up foreign affairs with bogus smears like Russia-gate. I think Tulsi Gabbard gets this and wants to promote good relations so we might have some peace on this planet. Or at least avoid total destruction.

[@PapaGolfRomeo]

@@paulhansen5053 The original inhabitants of the Indian sub-continent were adivasis. The ones who remained in jharkhand, chhattisgarh, even parts of Rajasthan and Gujarat and the Deccan plateau in Telangana. The ones who left are known today by a different name - The Romas. The concept of Bharat Bhumi happened approximately 2500years after mohenjodaro and harappa settlements, more so with the advent of Kautilya, who wanted to unify India under one ruler; which was quite after the Aryan races came from European continent via the karakoram mountain ranges. There is a reason why Hindu leaders - Subhash Chandra Bose and others went to Germany for ideological support against the Brits, to proclaim similarities between the Aryan Races. There is a reason why the Swastika is so clearly emblazoned in both Nazi and Hindu philosophies. The migration of Aryans or the Roma people had created the Eurasian lands as we know it today. It was clearly depicted during Alexander's campaign all the way to Punjab. Most of Upper Caste Hindus in India today are not the original settlers. They were migrants. Hinduism in itself has been a work in progress to develop pagan roots - by incorporating the adivasi way of living with Aryan worshipping of statues, as metallurgy was unknown in that part of the world until 1200BC. Since you showed your love for the original settlers of the Indian sub-continent, you would be happy to know - The adivasis of India today are subjugated as SC, ST, OBC and Naxals. Their territories are being ripped apart, with overall control over ancient habitats, forests, water reservoirs etc. unfortunately, the NGOs that could have given historic records of atrocities in that region have been declared unlawful by the Indian Supreme Court. Human Rights abuses are fairly frequent. However, coming to present day worldview, The idea of Hindu Rashtra, is unfair in a country of 1.3 billion people who were striving for secularism as part of their constitution for 70yrs, and has close to 300million minorities, not just Muslims, but Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Christians and Jews. Taking a snapshot of Indian history to prove a point is dangerous, simply because it has been a long time in the making. It does not do the country any favours being continuously embroiled in internal strife and conflict. When income and wealth inequality, pollution, unemployment, health standards etc. are all major concerns, riots on the basis of religion is acting like a distraction from the issues that determine the standard of living for an entire nation. Guess what, Modi, RSS, BJP know this but are acting against the best interests of the country they claim to love.

[@paulhansen5053]

@@PapaGolfRomeo The adi-vasis of India are referred to as such because they are more tribal/primitive, not that they are the only indigenous peoples. You mentioned the Aryan invasion theory, but that theory was invented by Europeans with very flimsy evidence, in order to bolster their colonization of India. There's much more evidence that the Vedic/Aryan culture of the Indus-Sarasvati is completely indigenous and goes back to the end of the last ice age, about 7500 BCE. It's a fallacy to assume that indigenous cultures must be primitive.

[@paulhansen5053]

@@PapaGolfRomeo Also, I don't know why you're talking about the crazy Nazis or what that has to do with anything. The Indian swastika is an ancient good luck symbol and the Nazis perverted it. Bose went to Germany not to proclaim anything but rather to get help from Britain's enemy to help fight England in the struggle for independence.

[@jackbyrne8559]

WOW! People are mean on the internet! SHOCKER!!

[@lcotler]

I hope all you realize that Katie is funnier than most comedians because she doesn't try to be funny; she's dead-pan funny. Quick on the draw funny. She could a full 30 minute monologue.

[@Kurtiscott]

Interesting that the rise in suicide rates since 2000 just happens to coincide with the growth of social media’s roll in our daily lives over the same time period. -just saying. Oh, and btw: love your podcast. Both informative and hilarious. Its quickly become a must-listen every week.

[@yarnpower]

I like what one country does, they ban private schools for k thru 12. That means even the very rich kids go to public schools, so they socialize with and get to know kids from other economic classes.

[@thehumanity0]

You really had me going there for a minute with that "trigger warning" over the "attacks" from Bernie supporters.

[@ahalpert]

Haha yea loved the sarcasm. Bernie supporters just state the facts plain and simple, that's why we like Bernie, he does that too.

[@StephenAntKneeBk5]

With phony gravitas Warren says, "we have to win," but if she's against Single Payer, and she is, I do not win. I lose. Why would I vote for that?

[@jeffreywilson9913]

I received free jr. college in CA,in the 70's.

[@richarddougherty543]

Means testing increases tension between people of adjoining income levels particularly between people of low and middle incomes. I experience this all the time.

[@freedom_fighter]

I want one of those cups! :( Please produce more RollingStone!!

[@backlogrob8358]

People just using Bernie bros as an excuse to quit Twitter cuz they dont have the balls to just leave social media on their own.

[@JohnnyRoseofVersailles]

Kinda disaponted that you talked about Modi's welcoming but said nothing about Tulsi welcoming him so warmly

[@tonydimeo1882]

Jonida Sanço I had the same thought

[@gregoryschmidt88]

Maybe your best episode.. bravo you two!

[@KobolsHarper]

This show is perfection

[@lockstock600]

Speak dirty to me in your fake British accent Nathan

[@buffalospirits]

"The true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love." - Che Guevara

[@Unfamous_Buddha]

Two weeks before the WFP endorsed Warren, Warren endorsed a WFP candidate, Kendra Brooks, for Phila. (PA) City Council, upsetting Republicans because as the minority party, they were allotted space on council. This also upset some Dems because super-progressive councilwoman (and Democrat) Helen Gym also endorsed Kendra Brooks. Anyway, this might have to do with WFP supporting Warren.

[@zwergie256]

Or it could be this: statuscoup.com/does-elizabeth-warrens-daughters-financial-connection-to-working-families-party-hang-a-cloud-over-endorsement/

[@danielbeauchamp2317]

This is my new favorite podcast. Bless y'all!

[@maya_coqsalonga]

Useful Idiots is a good name for the Yang Gang.

[@jungoogie]

YES! You know I'm gonna watch this early into the morning and get less sleep.

[@agabrielrose]

I have distinct crushes on each of you

[@AtleastAlot]

Nathan J. Robinson: Katie Halpers mouse pointer: I'm gonna sit on your face

[@subversivelysurreal3645]

Warren : ‘For the hardworking-families...!’ Bernie : ‘Brothers and Sisters, will-you-fight-for-someone-you-don’t-know-as-hard-as-you-would-fight-for-yourself?!’ Warren…a phillips head screwdriver, a tinkerer.🔧 Bernie…a streetcar named possible, with tracks, an entirely different infrastructure. 🏵…🏩🚊🌍❤️

[@funglegunk]

Nathan's Chomsky mug, 😍😍😍 hahaha

[@subversivelysurreal3645]

“ -he was not using the gas on...I mean, there was clearly, I understand your point, thank you, I appreciate that-“ Credit where it’s due. At LEAST Sean Spicer understood how horrifying his own words were, and gtfo of there. vs.: Sarah Huckabee Sanders, aka., Aunt Lydia, who forever boasted that, oh, kidnapping toddlers and stuffing them into concentration camps was okay because, “To follow the law is very BIBLICAL.” [Yeah, the way people in WWI saw the devastation on the shores of France and said, “…it’s biblical.” ]

[@rutherfordhaze]

You two beautiful souls deserve a better stage set than that "interrogation room" chic. Come on! I mean, Come on! .......... Zebras, dandelions, Winnie the Pooh, tigers, roses, Cat in the Hat, lemon meringue pie, the Little Rascals, the Mouseketeers, a falafel bar, Tulsi surfing (did you see it?), Bazooka bubble gum, spinach omelettes, Notre Dame re-built, better stop me b4 I really get going. It's all at your disposal. Love, Rutherford Haze

[@stengunnerman7935]

Hey Matt /all, if you want some great background on why and how Soviet efforts to realize socialism failed to deliver and actually harmed subsequent efforts to realize it elsewhere, check out Bertrand Russell's The Practice and Theory of Bolshevism (1920). He was literally there, and it recounts his meetings with Lenin, Trotsky and Gorky as well as his direct observations of what was happening in average people's lives. "In the interests of Communism, no less than in the interests of civilization, I think it imperative that the Russian failure should be admitted and analysed." Although this book represents a trenchant critique of the Soviet experiment, Russell remained, in his final analysis, an advocate of socialism (or as he called it in early editions, Communism).

[@subversivelysurreal3645]

Don’t ask Matt to figure ANYTHING that Steny Hoyer said, if he doesn’t understand the ABC-basics of a vital BRICS country, Katie. The look on Modi’s face as Hoyer blathered on the line from, ‘India, 1966’.

[@PMunkS]

Worth repeating: 35:33 Nathan Robinson: "The lack of attention in her [Elizabeth Warren] policies to building labor unions and enlarging the labor movement - there's not much about that on her [Elizabeth Warren] website - and its a fundamental part of the Left worldview that unless you adjust the power-balance between workers and owners, you're not really going to change anything; and that's why the labor movement is so central to the Left".

[@Vnbrtl]

After taking a closer look into Warren's record and the issues raised about her campaign in the last few months (WFP bought endorsement, the Senate Corporate Cash transfer, and the votes for Trump's military budget increase), my vote now is fully on Sanders. I think most voters need to put her through some serious scrutiny. Apparently her team is trying to throw smoke into the WFP issue, but the fact they omitted the poll results, and her daughter and also her campaign financier were part of Demos when the money transfers happened, builds enough evidence to support this story. It's a shame. I now feel she's been used to split Sanders progressive base and destroy his campaign before Super Tuesday. And he can't do anything about it.

[@steverandall3255]

One must realize that the objective above all else is to beat trump. A second term for trump could be categorically disastrous for our nation and the world, perhaps much much worse than the first term . I ,personally, am for Bernie but should Warren gain the nomination( and I am very cognizant of the differences between them ) I will avidly support her. Furthermore, even should Biden win the nomination ( quite disappointing to me if this should happen) I will vociferously support him even with the lack of necessary progress for the Democratic Party and the country his Presidency would represent. But re-electing trump , if the Democrats of every position and persuasion do not support the Democratic candidate , strongly support the nominated candidate - the day after the election trump an even more dangerous and disastrous trump will be the President of the United States. I am enormously for Medicare for All or Single Payer, anything to relieve us of the profiteering perpetuated on the public in the healthcare and pharmaceutical industries. Bernie is very serious about helping us here. Elizebeth Warren says she is with Bernie on this issue. I do not know how serious Warren would really be about the entire overhaul of this system as President. Even so, out of utter necessity, Elizabeth Warren must be very strongly supported if she is the nominee. Etc....

[@janatical]

"Sean Spicer looks like an age-advanced M&M" lolol

[@h2t26]

This and interview with Krystal Ball got me to sub...really good analysis from the guests in both. Here we can very clearly see the Differences between Bernie and Warren, which they sadly haven't done themselves but will hopefully do soon. Regardless as to who you support they need to help make the choice clear for people to decide, and for us to see just where the Democratic party and U.S. society stands at this point in its' history.

[@krab1791]

👎🏻For Warren as VP or for her as the nominee if Bernie “loses”. Warren is putting on a play and will revert to Establishment & status quo if elected. It’s a big IF. She can’t beat Trump.

[@jaykay415]

Nathan, you sound like you have a slight accent from somewhere in the British Isles. Is this true (Google won't tell me)? And if so, I'm curious about your path to immersion in American politics and society.