Abaddon's Plan To KILL GUILLIMAN Finally Revealed | NEW WARHAMMER LORE ANALYSIS

[@SandmanofTerra]

Have you ever heard the story of Abaddon the Despoilers daughter? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIDHf32mhp2si6Msi=C-spcEihi8Zuf_-k

[@Xzarnyan_minis]

i did.. and its a pleasure to watch the video as always! :)

[@fuckyourhandles077]

So where would one who is new to this universe start reading? I think the emperor is Sigmar just my two cents.

[@vampurhntrd]

I would love nothing more than instead of one saving the other, to have the Primarchs reunite to fight back to back against all odds. That the two are unexpectedly in the same place via warp shenanigans.

[@alastor8091]

I mean, Lion's Firest Walk literally puts him in the exact place he needs to be when he needs to be there.

[@brotheralaric7177]

roboute will probably have some hard time dueling abby, but the lion will stomp him, he is probably one of the best duelist after Sanguinus

[@jakehinton732]

I don't understand why majorkill has more subscribers than sandman does... Dude your content is far and above better than 90% of other Warhammer 40K creators! We truly do appreciate everything you do Sandman! Thank you for being you, bud!

[@_NutcasE_]

Kinda obvious isn't it? No one is gonna look at a 1:30:36 video and be like "man I'm eating well tonight". Majorkill has a way of telling lore(even if most of it is reddit nonsense that isnt even accurate) in entertaining way in 10 minute videos that are less of a task to get through. Ofc he gets more mainstream appeal than Hour long videos. Just the way it is.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

lower level content is more likely to draw a crowd

[@michaelhawes1989]

Majorkill has just been around longer , Sandman has those numbers in him for sure 😀

[@zach5539]

Because majorkill capitalised on the brief 'an Aussie explains' content spike

[@clockworkdeity]

Sandman needs to do these videos in a bro shirt.

[@xtremetecher9187]

“And that problems name is Erebus” Well…who on earth could have predicted Erebus could be a problem? 😂 it’s not like he’s ever done anything before👀

[@gust0o]

Leetu is gonna turn up at some point and kill him for the lols

[@thecl0ck30]

Fucking Erebus

[@takosos]

Abaddon: Fulgrim sucks (Thinking about recruiting the Daemon PRimarchs) Horus: First time?

[@CodyJames-m3d]

Keep up the good work. I love the stories. Have a good thanksgiving bro!

[@Xzarnyan_minis]

Thank you for the video mate.. as always a pleasure to watch and listen to your stories, thoughts and your own view on what could happen.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man!

[@ihaztehSNIPAH]

Your little visualization of the anathame blade becoming 8 athame blades made me legitimately laugh. I feel like my brain had already shown me that, so seeing it literally appear on the screen a second later was hilarious.

[@AllHailDiskordia]

Abby will send him a strongly worded letter?

[@rosemariebradley761]

It would be hilarious if the star child is the necrons transferring from their necrodermis into a biological body.... far fetched i know but still.

[@Z3kyTw0]

This was fantastic brother! Thank you

[@troublemaker9899]

Damn, it's amazing to hear how everyone in 40K showed up to the big battle. All the big names were there. None of them died. The conflict was not resolved in any meaningful way. But it was peak fiction.

[@chadstorm92]

Please keep doing more of these novel breakdowns!

[@lucitribal]

Would be funny if it ends up being used to stab Abaddon in the back

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

His own arm leaps from his body and stabs him, screaming I Am Alpharius Arm

[@takosos]

Question, What would Abaddon do after he kills The Emperor? (Hypothetically) What would be his mission after that?

[@lachlanmacrae1779]

Most likely rule the Imperium for Chaos. Otherwise, just burn everything down. His entire thing during the heresy was that he hated the idea of the 'weak' being in charge. He hated that mortal men were going to rule the Imperium instead of the space marines, and he hated his father Horus because he deemed he failed because "He was too weak." But I don't know everything about him so I could be wrong.

[@thedave3880]

He would rule the imperium as the new emperor and once in charge banish chaos as who has more knowledge of the gods than old abby

[@Dadecorban]

Retire. Agriworld.

[@lordkilljoy9652]

​@@Dadecorban but only after killing fully half of the galaxy's life

[@Dadecorban]

@@lordkilljoy9652 based on what?

[@Louis1945.]

We haven’t even seen the Guilliman and Lion reunion yet. Idk if I want the emperor to come back (end times) but I know that they stretch the story so much that we will have grey hair by the time he does

[@weaselwolf]

"The blood angels are too good and perfect and not flawed enough."

[@SandmanofTerra]

And they'll still go out in perfect glory for the emperor!

[@bairrfhionndalcassian5181]

A Mephiston greatest hits video would be great 👍🏻 😊

[@michaelhowell2326]

So was there only THE Anathame, and later it was broken into several pieces of Athame, and could those pieces be forged into arrowheads or bullets?

[@ashtonmartin3398]

Yes, always trust GamesWorkshop to have the imagination and personality of a pre-teen when it comes to naming things.

[@RealmForge100]

Lore wise those would still be cool but wouldn’t be as effective because a lot of Chaos’ power comes from the ritual significance, fear, and pain tied to blades.

[@jacobgallegos1450]

I think Guillimans ability will be that he can split up like erda did vs. Erebus's demons because he is so skilled in multi-tasking

[@TC-Apoc]

Dying to hear your takes on the coming Trench Crusade material

[@AC5667]

I think Curze will come back as a robot effigy of himself as it just seems fitting for him. ive got Gargoyles the tv series in mind when thinking about this as id say itd look like robots and cyborgs in that show

[@chrisbeau76]

Can you do a video on Chief Librarian Ezekiel? I love the concept of Space Marine Librarians, and Ezekiel is one of the more mysterious Characters and lately I haven't sen him have an active role in the current setting of 40K. Why does he refuse to replacement the Bionic Eye? Why does his force sword have a hose that connects to the lower half of his face which is covered by ametal plate? Also, loving the content. I dont think i have ever come across oner video so far that I haven't enjoyed. Fantastic!

[@Wonderpalm1979]

Very enjoyable video ✌️

[@NrdCool]

The problem’s name is always Erebus.

[@RPGLoremaster-y9g]

I want the Khan to come back with Leman and a whole two legions worth of new first-born Marines that all cross the Rubicon primaris rn masse.

[@originalfreak3142]

I have never hit pause in a vido so fast XD I listened to the first two books of dawn of fire, and checked a wiki on some of the characters. From what I read, the characters I liked the most in Gate of Bones either were killed off or not talked about again, and I stopped listening to the series. But hearing Yang is kicking ass and taking names, and Kesh is a saint now? God damn, I need to get back into the series XD

[@painmerchantgaming5193]

So. I'm just getting into WarHammer 40k. What book or book series would you recommend first?

[@clareornias1120]

Ciaphas Cain is the character who made me want more of the 'verse, so I always tell folks to start with his books. After all of his stuff I started at the beginning of the horus heresy

[@AAC1714]

The emperor sounds like he’s creating a second emperor almost with the star child… like maybe we get two emperors in a similar sense to alpharius and omegons split soul in two bodies kinda thing ? One on the throne one going around bringing primarchs back/ burning the rot away

[@TheBrules2]

Or he’s creating a new vessel for himself to recombine both parts of his soul. Remember he told Cypher - not yet. Maybe when it’s time he will be killed on the throne and then reborn or his soul can combine with the star child. Maybe Russ and the Yellow King are going to find the star child and be foster parents as Valdor probably knows the plan.

[@AAC1714]

@ my only thing with this is what about the imperiums lighthouse. If the star child is born as said will it remain lit/ running with the emperor on the throne now dead/ conjoined to the starchilds half ?

[@jacobeco]

Horus is the star child and the Anathame is back to deal with it.

[@11679MRT]

I tried the DoF books - the first one was good but it fell off fast. Major respect to those who were able to stick with it.

[@kevinoliver3083]

I struggled through the first book of Dawn of Fire book. The subplot, should have been a stand alone novella, or audiobook.

[@simonwatkins999]

So there are more than one Anathames that are on display, just need to get another one then?

[@SandmanofTerra]

they're never mentioned again, so it's always a possibility

[@kevinoliver3083]

The Iron Magus does survive, "Hand of Abaddon". But she is badly damaged/hurt.

[@kccustodes2618]

I think we have already seen in novel that part of the Emperor that he cut from himself in The and the Death. I wish I was a member so I could see your list of candidates, but I think it is already revealed in novels. Mephiston is OP af, but Mephiston feels okay about it. Sort of like Malcador is OP but it feels okay. There was a progression to get to his current state. At least to me, reading his progression over years, Mephiston feels okay to me. For me, Mephiston is being built up to maybe be a Malcador level of power type character.

[@4L3X4ND3R19K]

Can I just say as "barely into Warhammer universe fan" having read a fraction of novels... Mephiston is op right then we got the Sanguinor who is op, and Sanguinius is in stasis,well his wonderful Primarch vessel is ! Now does this not obviously leave it open for them (GW) to bring back Sanguinius after/when Mephiston (the evil cursed side to the primarch/Legion) and the Sanguinor (the good side of the Primarch/Legion) have a collide ??? I can see shit hitting the fan and both magically meet and the powers of both colliding giving back Sanguinius ! It kinda makes sense why both characters are soooooo OP I mean they're just Marines right or what is the origin of both of them ...

[@nuKayos]

49:35 what if instead of talking to big E, Lion is talking to Corax and they have been working together? Doesn't Corax have the ability to choose who can perceive him? If you add forest walking to perfect stealth, you have the ability to strike any target at any time.

[@SandmanofTerra]

A team up for the ages!

[@dannygelbart6827]

@Sandman of Terra, doesn't this mean The Emperor can explain to people how to fix the golden throne?

[@SandmanofTerra]

Potentially for sure and the custodes are going to try

[@kevinoliver3083]

Didn't the Lion talk to himself during the Horus Heresy, when considering dilemmas and issues? Or do people, since his reawakening, hear other voices, from rooms where The Lion is alone.

[@MrCookedPorkchop]

Star child is born though a political marriage from Guilliman and Yvraine. The rebirth of the Emperor is kept of upmost secrecy. As for the political marriage between them both it self, though how ever useful. Has brought in doubt and scrutiny already. The marriage is approved by both the Emperor and Eldrad who, to memory they both had or have an understanding humans and Eldar must work together. This would grant the Imperium another useful Allie, and could have a schism among other Eldar factions. Those not bending the knee won’t have leeway. The marriage could resemble that of Caesar and Cleopatra, and to that of Justinian the Great and Theodora. Would find the twist with the Witch being that her loyalty in Choas would be to- the DarkKing.

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

The Starchild may not necessarily be what we think it is - recently, I had gotten into the Warhammer 50k fanseries, and I must say... ya gotta see for yourself...

[@Zso-VIII]

Wait, there's a connection between the Great Rift and the number eleven?

[@Argumemnon]

I guess this blade could also be used against the Chaos Gods.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Classic inquisition going for the old Uno Reverse

[@tommirahikka7529]

byfius has spoken :D

[@starvinforGarvin]

How do you spell the sorc's name, Augari?

[@elddir3676]

Could you target a Ctan with one of these blades? If so would it even do anything?

[@Britishgridironfilms]

Doesn't all of the dawn of fire events happen prior to the plague war. and then Lion return is after that in like 150.M42. So this is likely to be less impactful to the following Lore. Maybe the Chaos gods are fearing the Dark King of the emperor was to be slain they need to slay the dark king too

[@SandmanofTerra]

Not anymore, i don't think. They changed up the timeline

[@Britishgridironfilms]

@SandmanofTerra again?

[@SandmanofTerra]

@@Britishgridironfilms so as I understand it, the plague wars are about a couple of decades into indomitus. It's really not clear. So some overlap with dawn of fire

[@odkjqedlkd]

Give the emperors sword to lion so he can kill angron for good

[@brotheralaric7177]

Abby may not be a primarch but he is acting like one

[@MaxiosMB]

Nothing will ever happen because gw don't like to sell minis of dead character. Plus the imperium got that plot armour

[@AAC1714]

The star child will get the color

[@CitizenPoe]

Ugh

[@peterga3658]

rewatching is a MST

[@alastor8091]

20:11 bro what the fuck am I looking at?

[@NathanielGarro40K]

It wasn't just a part of big E's soul he cut from himself, it was all his compassion and goodness coz he had to be stone cold for what he had to do! Does that mean the star child will be a lot more compassionate than original Emps? Be cool 🤔

[@justin6021]

The Star Child is the child of Guilliman and Yvraine

[@jakesolver4359]

34:00 a cannon that fires ghosts????

[@leandrocastello309]

Tbf, thats so on point for 40k.

[@4L3X4ND3R19K]

Going slow or fast is the wrong statement, its more content per time passing which makes it seem slow and this is going to happen especially when more games get made for Warhammer when movies and TV shows get produced and more writers create content. post Horus Heresy what happened ? not much because not many peeps were into it yet now ... Well we also ask to fill more gaps eg What did Calgar do pre Space Marine 2 ????

[@FunkoPopfan702]

Do more podcast warhammer

[@bappo2693]

Bottom Don gonna kick rocks

[@marmalade101]

SOME GUY!?

[@briHammer40K]

MALCADORS MALE MENOPAUSE PATCHES FRAK YEAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

[@skullsquad900]

1:13:27 There's a difference between a Bad Boy and an @$$hole. The real Bad Boys are the Blood Angels "Flesh Terrors" who are Bad and do War Crimes for Good Reasons, but aren't going to argue over being the Good Guys. Unlike the Dark Angels who would just repeatedly say "NoOo, I'm the BeStEsT Boi! Daddy Loves Me!"

[@WRXSEVEN]

Isn't the sword pronounced "Ann-Ath-Uh-Muh"?

[@RedikM]

For the algorithm!!!

[@4L3X4ND3R19K]

11 and the great rift ???

[@johnnyscifi]

But...Lion is back

[@odkjqedlkd]

Lol who invited wolftime bruh

[@awsomeoawsomeo2103]

Hold up at 34:50 He says the ring and athame could kill the emperor. Wouldn't you need the Emperor's name to do that?

[@SandmanofTerra]

The emperor's name plotline is a seperate thing. You don't necessarily need the Emperor's name to kill him

[@awsomeoawsomeo2103]

@@SandmanofTerra Doesn't the Athame need to hear the name of it's target? Could you just say "the emperor of mankind" and still have it work?

[@SandmanofTerra]

@@awsomeoawsomeo2103 oh I see what you're saying aha. Yes I hadn't thought of that. But given that all temba says is "the warmaster Horus" presumably you can get away with "the emperor of mankind"

[@ImperatorSomnium]

interesting

[@69shadesofyeezeezs47]

GW needs to kill off abaddon.. I understand that he's supposed to be Horrus but without his mind broken, but abaddon has been poorly written and he's a joke to alot of readers, at this point even if he kills off G man, people are just going to say it takes about 13 crusades for him to do something important. gw need to make sure the "anti-emperor" gets the same treatment as the emperor, someone that is important but that works in the background and not too much is known about him..

[@MrTrenttness]

🔥🎸🔥

[@Btk4813]

GW has a plan....a DEI plan!!

[@ruairiingram3408]

Awesome sandman, as always! Is there any chance you could discuss the significance of thrones in the universe? I think I can remember some lore that the old ones once used thrones for make the webway? And why did emp not know about vashtors wormwood etc! If I'm talking crazy here, please ignore me

[@SandmanofTerra]

interesting, I'll have to look into that old ones lore, however I did do a video on the dark throne of you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJfKfmWYe8mNnKcsi=aCMP-NudrXDURA8p

[@ruairiingram3408]

Thanks sandman!

[@RenderDead]

Iron Magus is alive. Read the ending again. She joins the remaining 8 and enacts revenge against Yeng.

[@carlstanford7607]

The dawn of fire is bad. Dark imperium is great

[@raemac9226]

40k is just marvel trash now, madness

[@Clayvalue]

Quit everything you’re doing and do this 😂🙏

[@Dadecorban]

Dawn of Fire are some of the worst written trash in 40K.....only surpassed by C.S. Goto and Ian Watson.

[@mysteriousfox88]

abigail is a boring and edgy character