Short video about getting Sandoz generic and what to expect
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@TheJesussfreak4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, Sandoz and Alvogen both are great on me. They do me exactly like the name brand. I’m happy about that cus I’m saving a lot of money 😍😍
@dansroadtorecovery55633 жыл бұрын
Hey sorry it took so long to reply lol but I’m glad your doing great on the generic. I guess for some people there is a difference but for the majority of us, they work the same. Hope all is well with you and your recovery ❤️🩹!
@Hijynx874 жыл бұрын
My friend was forced to get generics starting January 2020, also his costs went up too. Insurance companies aren't covering suboxone anymore, which is probably why they also make Sandoz in the same lab.
@sammyrodriguez26995 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great vid! Awesome way to help out the recovering community!
@dansroadtorecovery55635 жыл бұрын
Hey np. Glad I can help out in whatever different ways I can. Thanks for watching!
@flambookey5 жыл бұрын
Just got these for the first time today. I only need 7 strips a month and pay out of pocket so normally the cost isn’t a big deal for me. I normally pay around $80 but was surprised when I was rung up at $62. Then I opened the package and saw it wasn’t the brand name. I was freaking a bit as I’ve heard the horror stories about Dr Reddy bran. But I did a little digging and found your video along with some others claiming exactly what you said, which was a big relief! Really put me at ease, so that’s for that. Also I think it’s important to note that these aren’t simply generic like the other 2, but generic relabeled brand name. Same factory, same everything. I think in the future I’ll have my Dr emphasis brand name on my prescription for sanity sake. I won’t let $20 break my peace of mind, lol. Thanks again
@FNBRENT4 жыл бұрын
THESE SANDOZ STRIPS DO NOT WORK FOR ME IM TIRED TO THE POINT OF FALLING ASLEEP WHILE STANDING UP AT WORK AND I WOULD BE SICK HOURS AFTER TAKING THEM IVE NEVER HAD THE ALVOGENS BUT IM STARTING THOSE TOMM. BUT I DO HAVE 100 REAL ONES PUT UP JUST IN CASE I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE GENARIC TABLETS THEN THE SANDOZ BRAND FILMS
@FNBRENT4 жыл бұрын
THESE MAKE ME FEEL TIRED LIKE IM ON XNAX IM NOW STARTING THE ALVOGEN SO WE WILL SEE HOW IT GOES BUT THEM SANDOZ DO NOT FAIR WELL WITH ME THE GENARIC PILLS WORK 100X BETTER TBH BUT WE WILL SEE HOW THESE ALVOGENS WORK I DO HAVE AROUND 100 OF MY REAL ONES PUT UP JUST BECAUSE I ALWAYS TRYIN PREPARE MYSELF FOR THE WORST CASE SCENARIO
@skyesunshines14715 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos! I always get freaked out if I get anything other than the name brand and your vids calm me down 🤪
@dansroadtorecovery55635 жыл бұрын
Yeah i hate when they throw curveballs at us with this generic stuff but Im so happy I could help keep ya from freakin out. I will always remember how freaked out I was the 1st time and I dont want anyone to have to go through that! Gotta b there for each other Thanks for watching.
@joemazza25835 жыл бұрын
When I first got the generic strips, they gave me the Dr Reddy’s brand at Walgreens and I heard CVS had the Sandoz version so I went there this month and I love them. They look the same, taste the same, and have the same effects as the name brand.. at least that’s my experience. They’re made from the same place that makes the name brand that’s why.
@jasond40464 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooooo much for this video!!! Just like most commenting, I have been on name brand suboxone for 6 years. Last year they wanted me to change to generic as well, I didn't want to, so what my doctor had to do was send in what's called a PA (prior authorization) saying that medically I need to stay on the name brand stuff. They approved it for a year, up until it expired yesterday when I went to fill my script. The doctor did the same PA and it was denied. The insurance says i need to try the generic first. My doctor also said that after this months of generic script we'll send in another PA saying I had adverse effects. Then insurance SHOULD approve the PA and name brand suboxone. BUT thanks to rfus video, I did not get Dr Reddys and had them change it to Sandoz, so thank you!!! I haven't taken any yet but your video helped my anxiety. So for those others, you can still at least TRY getting back on suboxone if you want, tell your Doctor to send your insurance a PA stating the generic does work, gives you headache, stomach ache, depression, whatever, even if it's not the full truth. That could work in getting you back on the name brand.
@dansroadtorecovery55634 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. Sounds like you have been though the ringer with the PA b.s... Im glad my video helped ease ur anxiety to this day i am still on Generics with 0 side affects. Again glad i could help and keep me posted on ur thoughts once u start taking them. Happy thanksgiving and keep continuing to kick ass in recovery!
@Hijynx874 жыл бұрын
Sandoz are literally the same just repacked.
@dansroadtorecovery55634 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Makes me sick to see these companies find loopholes to keep control over process of addiction and recovery. Thanks for watching
@nikkichevere4 жыл бұрын
That is what I've been taking for over a year until today I received alvogen so interested
@dansroadtorecovery55634 жыл бұрын
I added a reply to your other comment (guess u found the other video lol) but ya I am happy as I can be on the Sandoz but nothing against the Alvogen. It was just a little more vanilly imo. Either way like I said no issues in transitioning so I wish ya the best of luck.
@ad40755 жыл бұрын
The only way I could differentiate a brand sub film vs generic film next to each other. The N8 ink.. Brand it runs down and to the right. Generic it runs up and to the right.
@jonjoe1384 жыл бұрын
The white bluish suboxone for me are just as good as the real thing. I'm in NYC and I had the original brand for yrs since the octagon pill days, then fell into an HMO insurance and starting getting genetics. I'm now getting the super duper genetics which is yellow (the packet) the sub is always hard like cardboard and breaks easily into pieces, also I noticed the yellow ones aren't as strong. Nalaxone wise they do block effectively, but buprenorphine wise they don't hold as long. I'm going to switch pharamacies. Although the pharmacy other than suboxone is good, they are always on time with my medication, but that one med (sub) isn't what I like. I also get my Clonnies from there too and they are also good for that.
@dansroadtorecovery55634 жыл бұрын
Oh yes the yellow ones. By far the worst of the generics. Luckily I only had the other ones for one month while CVS got their shit straight. I definitely understand what you're saying about it does block it but just not as long withdrawals kick in faster.. I wanted to stay with CVS cuz like you I get my my anxiety medication there too my Valium but luckily was only one month thing and now the Sandoz is much better. Thanks for watching and keep going strong with your recovery!
@cria31423 жыл бұрын
you know the buep has blocker in it too right? the naloxone is just suppose to help with od like narcan..
@alideees4 жыл бұрын
My pharmacy just switched from sandoz to alvogen. I was kinda freaked out at first but your videos helped to put me at ease. I saw another video of a woman saying the alvogen strips made her sick after a few days so I am still a little worried but hoping that was maybe just some kind of rare occurrence or a coincidental illness. Just took my first dose of alvogen. Wish me luck! 😬🤞🏼
@kbuhs134 жыл бұрын
How are the alvogen working for you? I was switched to those too and freaking out a lil bit !!!
@2marauderman3294 жыл бұрын
@@kbuhs13 ,they work fine for me and if anything,i like Alvogen better due to a more vanilla like taste.Don't get me wrong,it's not what I would call pleasant, but it's quite a bit better than that shitty citrus nasty tatse of the blue name brand sub
@mrcollins18064 жыл бұрын
I’ve been taking Suboxone for 11 years. I hate all the generic brands. I will say Sandoz is the best generic brand. I can tell a major difference. The name brand I let it dissolve for a hour. Sandoz I let it dissolve for 40 -45 minutes. I get a better head change from it.
@kbuhs134 жыл бұрын
Just fyi after 5-7 minutes all of the active ingredient is absorbed into your system. Waiting longer than that for the medicine to dissolve is a waste of time. You will not get any more of the medication past 7 minutes even if you still have some in your mouth. Actually if you read on the Package of paper that comes with your subs it states this information!
@acostin4004 Жыл бұрын
Here in uk sandoz buprenorphine has totally changed in quality its just so weak i'm gonna have to switch brands..
@destinylovesadrian5 жыл бұрын
sandoz has made me really sick throwin up n other moods
@dansroadtorecovery55635 жыл бұрын
Wow I'm so sorry you're going through that... maybe you're one of those people that just needs to be on the brand name is there a way you can talk to your doctor about writing brand only on your prescription? Have u tried any other generics?
@destinylovesadrian5 жыл бұрын
My dr is this wednesday im hopin they can keep me on my regular suboxone cause the generic isnt workin for me makin me really sick
@artrobert08754 жыл бұрын
Cheryl Binns i feel the exacty same way. So i just switch to generic on monday. Ive been on brand name for 4 years. I was super nervous to make the switch because change scares the shit out of me. So after i took my first strip on monday i couldnt even tell a difference, and was very happy with the result. But when i took my 2nd dose, i started feeling almost sick to my stomach and immediatly started feeling my mood change. It is really wierd how they make me feel. Its not a strength thing either, i didn’t have a single “withdrawal” feeling at all. Just sick to my stomach and depressed mood. It is now Thursday and nothing has changed. Maybe its just mental? I dont know. Was just glad to see i wasn’t the only one to feel that way. P.S. i take the 2mg strips. 4mg a day Also Dan, thanks for the video. Great information.
@FNBRENT4 жыл бұрын
@@destinylovesadrian the sandoz made me tired and wore off in half the time but i will say the genaric tablets did amazing i would go as far as even saying they did better then the actual name brand tablets they was the AN-415 tablet form
@onlythetruth11425 жыл бұрын
I was on the brand name SuB for at least 7 years till last month when I went to the pharmacy and they gave me the Sandoz generic. Now I knew this was coming. There is whats called the AGV ( authorized generic version ) which is made the same as the brand name from formula to manafacturing in the same way as the brand. Sandoz is the AGV for Indevior ( Brand name ) from what I read I think. But if you notice generic or brand can have weaker batches sometimes. I noticed either this is a weaker batch or it's my system getting used to this generic. I hope. Ive had to take extra some days and will have to take less till the next script. I might ask to go up by one strip as I feel its the same as 2 brand. The other issue is inactive ingredients. The brand had provoloneK90 in it which is a delivery system. Sandoz does not have this. It seems all the quality meds have changed to cheap chinese meds
@waffledninja62785 жыл бұрын
Only the Truth 1 You are spreading misinformation on this generic drug, Sandoz. You can view the active AND inactive parts of Sandoz in the document I am providing. Sandoz DOES include the inactive ingredient povidone K90. I switched from suboxone and can not tell any difference at all with this generic. It is even manufactured in the same warehouse as Suboxone and I believe it’s the same exact thing. Makers of Suboxone just want their hands in both cookie jars. They will make their money either way, why make the generic worse when it probably costs nothing for them to make either name brand or generic. Document: mri.cts-mrp.eu/human/downloads/DE_H_4045_004_FinalPI_3of3.pdf
@Sevisstillalive4 жыл бұрын
@@waffledninja6278 Sandoz flims are created by the same company that makes Suboxone. They sold the way it was created to Sandoz and sandoz only. Dr,reddy and other brands are different.
@youtubenatan4 жыл бұрын
I'm here to tell everybody that the generic are not the same as the real one's. I have been taking Suboxone strips for the last 15 years off and on, and there is something that the real one's do differently, mental and head feeling wise, that the generic Alvogen does not. Sandoz is more like the real Suboxone than any of them and is the closest to the real one's. I have been taking the Alvogen (yellow package) one's for about 3 weeks now, and my head feels different and they are not giving me the same type of mental drive as the real brand. It's not in my head, I can tell you that whether they tell us if the same stuff is in them or not, there is not the thing in the generic and the real one's. The real one's also taste and smell way more potent and like strong citrus, while the Alvogen hardly smell and are way less harsh, so that right there tells you it's different too. Anybody who has been off and on on these will tell you that the namebrand is more potent than the generic, and the Sandoz are closer, if not pretty much the same as the bamebrand, if not a tiny bit different. The Dr. Reddy and Alvogen one's are more in the same league, and Sandoz and the namebrand Suboxone are in a very similar league. The real one's do have side effects that the Alvogen one's do not, but then the real one's were doing more for my head and mental state then the Alvogen, so I guess I just got to deal with it now, but if I had a choice of any, I would go with the Sandoz one's.
@cria31423 жыл бұрын
why not switch to subutex if youve been taking them that long?
@youtubenatan3 жыл бұрын
@@cria3142 I don't know of any clinics in PA that prescribe subutex. All of them only prescribe the Suboxone. I guess they don't fund it or something. Do you know of any organization or information I can look into to maybe see about it? Thanks
@cria31423 жыл бұрын
@@youtubenatan yea i have a feeling the suboxone is just cheaper for big pharma(if not cheaper def more profitable), idk they use to do the same thing here, would only give subutex to people with "special circumstance's" until last couple yrs.. i heard most countries dont even do suboxone anymore with narcan being so widely available now.. like your content though keep it up
@youtubenatan3 жыл бұрын
@@cria3142 Yeah, I would like to stop taking the naloxone stuff in it and just take the buprenorphine, but I don't know if the naloxone does something beside block out drugs or not, I never really studied about the naloxone, but I know all about this drug's interactions and other things because I have been off and on it for almost 16 years...SBN
@youtubenatan3 жыл бұрын
@UCzMOEqCq4QHw8_64PotieMA I know the naloxone is the blocker, and I know that the buprenorphine is the opiod, but I heard from some people that the naloxone is what gives you that boost and energy, and the buprenorphine is the pain killer that attaches to your feel good receptors. Oh, I know alot about it, I just never got too deep into studying the naloxone, and what else it may be doing besides being a blocker, because I knew someone that got on the subutex, and they told me it was not giving them the energy that the Suboxone was. I took Subutex before, and it did seem to be a tad bit weaker without the naloxone, but I don't know, everybody's body and brain is different. I'm just grateful as hell that I get them and only pay a dollar for my script...SBN
@teddyadams54165 жыл бұрын
I have to agree I have taken these are the same thing can't tell the difference but they are much cheaper which is great
@recoverycoachkc83655 жыл бұрын
Yes had to pay out of pocket for a weeks worth used goodrx wanted $138 for suboxone and $38 for these insane
@dansroadtorecovery55633 жыл бұрын
Yeah the price is definitely a plus and the fact that it is hard to tell the difference makes you realize what big pharma is doing to rip us off
@leannepriest9485 жыл бұрын
Hello Dan. I really appreciate you doing these videos and giving your opinion. Do you think this generic works better or any different then the Alvogen brand? Thank you again for your time...I wish you all the best!
@dansroadtorecovery55635 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely the Sandoz is the "cadillac" of generics. I literally cant tell the difference but again same plant in Jersey that they make the name brand so I honestly think Sandoz is the closest we will ever get to name brand. Thanks for watching and all the best 😄
@FNBRENT4 жыл бұрын
a genaric only has to contain up to 80% of what the name brand does to be cleared by the FDA
@WilliamSarokon4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@dansroadtorecovery55633 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the long time to get back to you but I’m glad I could help even in a small way. Hope all is well with you and your recovery
@Purpleskyshorizon4 жыл бұрын
Was just wondering how you're doing? Hope you're doing well.
@dansroadtorecovery55634 жыл бұрын
Doing great. I dont miss the brand name at all. Ill be hitting 5 and a half yrs off dope on the 24th so excited for that.. Hope all is well with u
@chris-vj5wu5 жыл бұрын
Those absolutely suck!!I've been on brand name for 4 years and never had any problems.on this I woke up at 5:00 with cold sweats I swear on my kids this is trash!!If I'm gonna be addicted to somthing I'm not gonna get this thrown down my throat I'll pay extra for brand name.common sense will tell you generic are not as good!its cheaper for a reason.each to his own just my opinion.good luck stuck with something for a month if you don't like it.
@recoverycoachkc83655 жыл бұрын
Its in your head it's exactly the same and it's the same maker I've been on suboxone 6 years got these generic and absolutely no difference
@chris-vj5wu5 жыл бұрын
@@recoverycoachkc8365 generic can add or take away 20% active ingredients. You really think they are gonna make a cheaper brand and be the exact same??I was open minded and when 1 can last me all day and then i switch to this and by the end of the day i was needing it.i didnt on name brand...and the hell it's my head these are weaker then brand name!
@chris-vj5wu5 жыл бұрын
@@recoverycoachkc8365 if it works for you good for you!
@recoverycoachkc83655 жыл бұрын
@@chris-vj5wu so you really think it's going to work for everyone else put not for you? I work in healcare no need to try to explain medicine to me it's in your head buddy but I bet if you had to pay out of pocket full price you'd stop bitching about it
@tabathahamrick58385 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed a slight difference in taste and texture and very little RLS. I’m very sensitive to change especially with my body but I’ll take it over nothing and expenses. I hope all is well.
@kbuhs134 жыл бұрын
Ali Duh So how is the Alvogen brand for you?
@2marauderman3294 жыл бұрын
i have been on Alvogen for 3 weeks now,and if anything I like them better than brand name Suboxone if for no other reason than they taste better.As for effectiveness,i can tell no difference whatsoever.I am completely satisfied with the alvogen strips,personally.