SANDPAPER DOCUMENTARY - PART THREE (The Impacts)

[@flatbat8571]

I think the sandpaper was just the tip of the iceberg. That Aussie team had behaved appallingly since Lehmann came in in 2013 and were the classic example of "can dish it out, can't take it" - if they'd behaved better and been better ambassadors for the game, I don't think the punishments would have been anywhere near as bad

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

They have been behaving badly since the 90s...

[@RebelRebelious]

They've always been the same through the years. Both team and fans. When they're flying and winning they're the Billy Big Bollocks. When under pressure and things aren't going their way, the toys come out the pram and are the biggest whingers and crybabies going. Ungracious losers with every excuse. The irony being they accuse everyone else of being whingers. History has shown they don't handle pressure situatiions well.

[@antonmoller624]

Agreed, except the punishments were shockingly lenient. Hansie Cronje was banned for life from cricket without even the possibility of coaching a junior school team. And all he did was except a few thousand dollars from bookmakers to influence certain moments in a match. This same thing was done by many other cricketers at the time and has been well documented.

[@AlexRudzinski-x1v]

Well said, that's exactly how I remember it.

[@jacobburtonswfc]

Been doing it for years, it's why England can't win a test in Australia

[@deltabrainwave69]

Nicely put together. As a lifelong cricket fan from a non-Australian nation, I couldn't give a shit about sandpapergate anymore. The incident itself was confirmation of their cheating. I had suspected them of ball tampering 2-3 years prior when they played in NZ. They were able to get reverse swing after 20 overs in lush, green conditions. That is unheard of.

[@michaellamancusa4637]

Change claim

[@theojenner1902]

In the ashes before papergate, the aussies were able to swing the ball, when even broad or Anderson couldn’t. Something doesnT add up

[@johntricker9222]

Yes!!!! Trying to frame this as naughty school boys who got caught the first time they tried it, is laughable.

[@johntricker9222]

I cannot believe this narrator wants us to believe all is forgiven and forgotten…. And I really can’t believe anybody genuinely thinks these reprehensible cheats were caught on their first attempt. Australian bowlers had been getting reverse swing for years when even the very best of opposition bowlers couldn’t. Hopefully one day we’ll find out the truth, but I suspect the cheating was systematic and had been going on for years.

[@Roz0007]

@@johntricker9222 do yk how hard it is to get away with it. They were caught so easily and even if they were doing it before, the umpires would've at least noticed once or the cameras would've at least caught the once. Just because Australia have destroyed your favourite teams over and over again doesn't mean they were cheating.

[@jasondriver6579]

I'll say it for the hundredth time Warner is and always has been toxic. Allowing him anywhere near those young players is suicidal incompetence by the ACB. I disagree entirely with the redemptive narrative as regards his involvement.

[@ryanking7787]

The question I have to ask is was this the first time an Aussie had used sandpaper under Smith's leadership? It seems very unlucky, far too much in fact to be caught first time. I watched a good portion of the Ashes that took place not long before this and the Aussies got a lot more out of the ball than our bowlers did. I'm not going to lie, we were rubbish and rightly got battered. However, the events that followed will always make me wonder if there was an element of cheating in that series too.

[@saikatghosh9073]

Most likely they might have done it in 2015 WC too. Grantt Eliot hinted at it

[@gokuvegeta9500]

​@@saikatghosh9073 Trescothick admitted that England used mint on the ball

[@graham8989898]

This is a great documentary, really well put together. As an English cricket fan it’s really interesting to get an Australian perspective on the whole thing. A dark day for aussie national team and for cricket in general

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

"Crossing the Line" is a better, less biased documentary on it

[@SeeASquaRE]

I was absolutely appalled that CA backstabbed Paine on his controversy and Langer was given the boot too. This is how you treat the guys who got back the reputation through careful diplomatic and take the team from an underdog position to top of the league? Then gracious me what's going to happen if something like that ever happens again.

[@nomadsoul4396]

You would think supersport sold them the sandpaper the way you carry on.

[@marksmith6327]

Always remember aussies saying you wait for the umpires finger. Broad did that. Seems aussies forgot that mantra

[@GGSquad33]

bros a bit slow

[@alastairward9403]

I don’t think they have won back respect from the public. In Australia maybe but in other read of the cricketing world, certainly not. There is still too much uncertainty and lack of clarification over the roles of the coaches and bowlers in the sandapaper controversy too.

[@focusdecorating3637]

Yeah they havent, everyone still calls them cheats and always will.

[@Sicatuli]

Nice to see some good cricket content on KZbin as an American cricket fan this is all I’ve got 😂

[@S4RG3N7]

Current Ashes - ‘’We saw you cry on the telly’’ 😂

[@Weirdbloke10]

Did you see them lift the World Cup on the telly ? Or are you still living in 6 years ago?

[@stu1002]

The issue with sandpapergate is "What else"? The captain knew. Senior players knew. There was a plan, and there was pre-meditation. That speaks to a culture and an ethos within the team, which was already there, and I very much doubt disappeared straight away. The interview given immediately afterward was absolutely despicable . Smith threw his junior player under the bus and the downplayed the whole thing and seemed basically unbothered by it. I genuinely think he had no real idea of how serious it was because he was within a "bubble" of the team where a culture of cheating was accepted as norm. I cannot believe it was a one off, or a rare event. Later, when the penny dropped how serious it was, he cried on TV. The suspension they received - 1 year - was about the absolute bare minimum they could be suspended with any sense of respectability. Other athletes who cheat with drugs etc could expect life bans. They got caught with Sandpapergate, but what else have they done over the years? What are they doing now? If you have a culture of cheating, where individuals are willing to work together to cheat, then all sorts of things become potentially possible that wouldn't be otherwise. For example, swapping urine samples to cheat drugs testing. What might you do with your bat? Or the wicket keeper's gloves? What other ways might you tamper the ball, or have done so in other matches? It's not sandpapergate itself, it's the fact a conference was held between senior players, and a pre-meditated scheme hatched. There has to be SO much wrong with your culture to get anywhere near that, it really begs huge questions about Australian Cricket.

[@sirath35]

I still can’t believe that the bowlers “knew nothing” These multimillionaires spend their lives perfecting one skill. And what are the chances the first time the cheated was the first time they were caught? Seems unlikely

[@focusdecorating3637]

There is no crime if you do not get caught

[@GGSquad33]

I think the the statement knew nothing is they didnt know it was going to happen until it did, so lets say starc was bowling, and he realised that it had been tampered with which i think he would've known, lets be real hes not snitching on his own team

[@heisenbergwaffles]

They should have been handed life bans for what they did... Pakistan's players were handed harsher punishments for fixing. It should have similar to that

[@shahrukmalik5559]

No chad it's not the same I know Australians did something really wrong and went out of the way to only win the game for their country where as fixing is something really different....

[@whatlez]

Fixing the match is a lot worse bud.

[@aurora0534]

This is not cheating or fixing .Just Stupids thing . Another thing pakistanis fixed to loss match for money . Australia did this for team and victory .

[@rtl6576]

I’m not trying to be funny, but am I the only one who thinks Warner and Smith’s crying seems fake or exaggerated?

[@cricketandfitness8140]

smithy proper broke down that was so sad to watch

[@idkfagaming2047]

Not sad, minimum that's should be expected from someone showing remorse. The fact that they're playing professional cricket again is ridiculous

[@rtl6576]

@@idkfagaming2047 are you saying they should have been banned for life?

[@PHILCHUDS]

@@rtl6576 Yes. Then let other would be cheats contemplate their actions. It would set a marker.

[@rtl6576]

@@PHILCHUDS should all cheating mean a life ban?

[@ozzycricket1]

amazing doco mate, keep up the good work

[@jarredbaigent185]

They weren't ashamed of cheating. Only ashamed they got caught

[@eeehan77]

*eye roll*

[@GGSquad33]

go watch the interview of bancroft and gilchrist, idk bout warner and smith but bancroft clearly explains his feelings and shows no excuses throughoutnthe interview

[@harryclarke632]

The amount of bias in this doc is mad

[@Antenociti]

You should call the 3 videos "Cheating apologist 101". - Smith should've been banned for life just for trying to dump it all on Bancroft in that interview - total scumbag move. The entire team knew what was going on and colluded in it, they only regret any of them has was being caught... and pre-meditated, organised cheating over a sustained period of time, is NOT the same as Broad (or anybody else) having a spur of the moment dumbfuggery incident and not walking - a pathetic bit of "whataboutism" there.

[@maxatrillian]

crazy that the video fails to mention the fact that most people actually think the punishments given to them by cricket australia were waaay too little, and he completely overstates how much warner and smith are regaining trust by the community.

[@ploddingrunner]

rubbish

[@GGSquad33]

@@maxatrillian thats just how life works, and we cant do anything about it, they are the 2 most populaR australian batters, they are gaining the ttrust of the community adn thats what cricket australia also want bc they get money, the punishments were a bit too little, espeically on warner, smith shouldve never been able to captian again which didnt happen but during their 12 months ban, it was probably arguably even darker than the sand paper incident. Australia couldnt win, no they were getting shit on every single time, itll lose viewers, lose money anjd ;lose popularity

[@Jofuish]

Good documentary but I think you've seriously underplayed how disliked the Australian team and especially Warner were. The so called "line" etc.

[@stumpedtv]

hey mate love your work, want to collaborate on an ashes preview video?

[@chrislewis7]

Can't believe how much of an apologist the narrator is for Warner.

[@gendron1982]

It's a tongue bath

[@mattlawrence6342]

Thanks for this and the Aussie perspective. I think many neutrals were upset that the truth regarding who was involved was clearly covered up. I find it difficult to believe that no bowlers knew about it, and it looks like CA and others were just intent on limiting the damage. Also interesting that a team needs a sledger-in-chief - I find that indicative of a very poor culture. I think your final assessment is a bit rose-coloured, I’m afraid. Have they been forgiven or have we just moved on? I suspect the latter. I can respect their sporting abilities; I’m not sure I will ever respect them more broadly

[@Weirdbloke10]

6 word cups. England continue to just complain and lose.

[@ritheeshgururi4388]

Dude why is the audio so low??

[@hippo5346]

The interesting one for me is how outraged the Aussies were at Broad for not walking when he obviously nicked the ball . Presumably , if he`d got a thin edge then not walking wouldn`t have been such a crime ???? If you cant get your heads around the fact that both scenarios are the same , then you`ll never truly understand the difference between cheating and fair play !

[@noelburland7169]

That Stuart Broad incident was very interesting. I think we could all agree that none of that Australian team in that test match would have walked had they been in Broad's position and I am old enough to remember legendary wicketkeeper batsman Adam Gilchrist being roasted by the Australian media (and public) for walking in the 2003 World Cup match against Sri Lanka, when the umpire appeared to be ruling the appeal not out. The Australians were wasteful with their DRS reviews in that innings in the 2013 Ashes Series and the clanger from the umpire happened when they had none left. That Broad incident later exposed Darren Lehmann as a massive hypocrite. In the next Ashes series in Australia he very publicly appealed to the fans to make Broad's life Hell to the extent that he went home crying. This is the same coach who four years later and in the second test of that fateful tour to South Africa, called out the South African fans for wearing Sonny Bill Williams face masks to mock David Warner. Lehmann was very much a central figure to the poor culture in that team during his tenure.

[@benhardcastle2305]

Using sandpaper and not walking are so far from eaccjhother it’s unbelievable gets grip

[@royw-g3120]

Broads opinion was that many times he was wrongly given out in his career so it all balances out if you get lucky occasionally.

[@royw-g3120]

Same as Javed Miandad in 87 cup final where he was bang to rights LBW by Derek Pringle and knew it. Turned to the slips " Looks like Allah is smiling on me today!"

[@harjot21]

They are not the same. While Broad was absolutely disgusting in not walking off, he was still in the laws of the game. Broad is the last person whose opinion needs to be heard on the spirit of the game. But he was lawfully right. This is lawfully and morally wrong.

[@christopherdaniels7434]

What a terrible take. Across all 3 videos the narrator tried to justify the actions. Particularly the Broad comment, where he tries to suggest that not walking when he "middled" the ball to slip meant he could not comment on the case. What difference does it make as to whether he middled it or nicked it? Is there a level of contact on the ball where the player should walk?

[@SBsportmedia]

The comment regarding Broad is more representative on Broads character as opposed to the incident of not walking. I merely was commenting on the throwing of stones in a glass house from Broad. As to your claim I have justified their actions in the doco, I'm unsure how you came to that conclusion? The first two episodes I go in particularly hard on Smith and Warner, and then feel I add some sympathy/look more in to Cricket Australia's actions in this concluding episode. Even as an Australian, I hold no love, or bias towards Smith and Warner, and am still deeply disappointed by their actions in Cape Town. I feel I portrayed that heavily in the doco. Thank you for the constructive criticism!

[@christopherdaniels7434]

@@SBsportmedia I guess it is more that the regular mention of Smith given the job when he may have not been ready, felt like it was preparing an excuse for what came. Could understand protecting Cam but not Smith. The Poms were right on this occasion, the bowlers must’ve known. All of us watching realised they were getting more reverse than previous summers, in that ashes before the tampering was caught. What’s more, we’d love broad to be ours. Find Anderson more irritating, plus can’t think of many examples of Broad’s behavior being out of line, can you?

[@26Bry]

@@SBsportmedia Stuart Broad didnt have to walk, the umpires are there to make the decision and they made the incorrect one on this occasion. I have watched many Ashes series where Australians have nicked off and they justify it then when it happens to against them all hell breaks loose. you cant have it both ways. As Mike Atherton said to Rod Marsh when he nicked off and didnt walk - 'When in Rome do as the Romans do.' Batters have never walked until DRS came in, only Gilchrist did and i applaud him for it. nobody minds the better team winning, but its the arrogance Australia brand about, which means no one wants them to win - although Pat Cummings comes across Humble its refreshing to see.

[@paulscottrobson]

@@SBsportmedia I don't think Broad has ever been holier than thou about it. I think it's the laughable hypocrisy that's the issue.

[@dipyaman93]

@@SBsportmedia I think not walking vs premeditated ball tampering with sandpaper are vastly different. In that way Stuard Broad is a much better ambassador of cricket that these cheating cunts.

[@sama2086]

Nothing makes me laugh the way Warner and smiths crocodile tears. genuinely hilarious

[@ZaheerYusuf-z3m]

Excellent Documentary. While no player is greater than the game, the question begs, is an unexamined life worth living? If cricket is these players lives, then let your talent and hard work talk. Well done to these players for introspecting.

[@robchisholm2697]

Top marks for the Doco. I'm English so my comments are going to be biased. David Warner will use anything to get the upper hand and cry like a baby when he gets the same treatment back. To physically attack the Enflish captn and then play the next test match is light years away from how England dealt with its own star player when Stokes punched a man outside a pub. He was dropped for the whole series. Yet Warner at an official team dinner punched the English capt. Was a life time ban from being g capt after organising cheating harsh. Very harsh when you get away with assault at a combined team dinner. C.A are the real villians if you ask me. Stating we don't pay you to play we pay you to win says it all for me it's sanctioning winning at any cost. C.A hold your heads in shame

[@allancain1947]

I remember Atherton getting done for using grit from his pocket.

[@focusdecorating3637]

Ive never liked him since.

[@burtonweakley2525]

I had this discussion with my old man the other day. I remember this series vividly. I was at the stadium that day. You are making the Saffas out to be just as bad as Smith and his handymen. The truth here is yes, cricket is hard. We love a good fight as Saffas, but you made a point on us as supporters. You make zero mention of things yelled at Indian players, and some of our players of colour. The Australian crowds are ruthless. Yet when you cop it, you bleat at how unfair it is. You cant have it both ways. These are professional players, and yes its quite stressful, but its what they've decided to do for a living. And their behaviour is just despicable. As far as making Smith a captain again, bad move. But just my thought. A final say on this is re Hansie Cronje. He took bribes, yet the games never went the way of the bookies. Could you inagine the outcry if Hansie was banned for 12 months and allowed to play again. You would still be bleating that a cheat is allowed back in yhe game, now the shoe is on the other foot. Wear it and accept most people will see this team as a bunch of cheaters until they all retire.....

[@focusdecorating3637]

Well said !!!

[@Roz0007]

Hansie was literally involved in criminal activity, im pretty sure sandpapering a cricket ball isn't nearly as bad.

[@GGSquad33]

Australina crowd u can do nothing about, its everywhere, u see racism, fat shaming things like that, cant rlly punish a crowd can you, but stuff players say should definitely punished, i think what he was trying to do was bbecause ppl didnt pay attention to that series until the incident, there is history to it whihc regards south africans ovciously also with the aussies playing wit a bad spirit and quench of blood. Which not a lot of ppl knew, maybe he explained it in a way that made it sound just as bad but yeah

[@footballtalk5798]

I think with Warner being banned for life, he has been banned behind and in trouble by CA. Punching Root in a bar the De Kock argument in that series

[@jonkaynz]

no mention that South africa had beaten them in there own backyard for 3 series in a row when according to the commentator the aussies only watch home series

[@jean-pierrebirkenstock3040]

Thought this was put together well and it was interesting hearing it from an Australian perspective. The only thing I really don't agree with is that David Warner was made to always sledge and behave the way he did, he was always a bad sport and could never take what he dished out.

[@focusdecorating3637]

a c.u.n.t you mean ?

[@JamesHudson-mn9wg]

That was a very well put together 3 part doco I enjoyed it, you were a little too gentle on Smith and Warner though, Cam was treated as the scapegoat and I feel sorry for him of course he should have told the senior cheats in The Australian team to get f---ed but he was finding his way in the team and did as he was told and will probably never play test cricket again despite dominating shield cricket that said as a west Australian we are used to this treatment just look what they did to Langer As a proud Aussie I love watching this bunch of cheats lose and ALL the bowlers knew about it, Ive played a lot of cricket and always study the ball these guys get paid to play and don't look at the ball?

[@AlexRudzinski-x1v]

And Cam was the only one who didn't cry like a baby at his press conference!

[@bradwhiteuk]

Think about these players' legacies. Bancroft can be somewhat forgiven - he was coerced by senior, experienced players. He should have had the courage to stand up for himself, but his part is much more understandable. But Smith and Warner will likely never be completely forgiven, and CERTAINLY won't ever be forgotten for their roles. Regardless of what else they do in their careers, they're cheaters. They embarrassed and disgraced themselves, their teammates, their families, and their country. This will be written in their ledgers for the rest of Cricket history. There is nothing they can do about it. That's their true punishment.

[@quicken76]

That's one autobiography im definitely waiting for.

[@lucasmoran7513]

Bringing up Broad not walking hahaha, you ought to have had someone read these scripts over mate, some moments throughout this series are embarrassing.

[@texastexas4541]

Sound is very weak in all three volumes.

[@stevesalkas9128]

Crocodile tears from Warner and I'm aussie

[@hlangaful]

This series would have been so good if there wasn't so much bias commentary and false equivalencies throughout the 3 parts. Overall very well put together but it honestly felt like there was some purposeful slanting.

[@mrkipling2201]

I think that Smith and Warner suffer from white line fever. I actually think that they're decent blokes in the interviews I've seen them give, but when they step onto the field of play, it seems like they'll do absolutely anything to win, even if it's not within the rules of the game. Yes they made a mistake and they were rightly punished, but some of the things I've read, like they shouldn't be allowed to play ever again, are ridiculous. I'm an England fan by the way.

[@jarredbaigent185]

Was that a sly dig at Southee? 😂

[@maxatrillian]

these videos are good yet are horrifically biased. watch them with a bucket of salt.

[@Rohanbhal_30]

U deserve more subs

[@WasimSohail-r5j]

Great work. You could sell this documentary to a sports broadcaster

[@cricketandfitness8140]

u and jagger skilzbeck carrying youtube right now

[@nichobee]

Australia are like the Darth Vader of cricket. Villainous and ruthless, yet extremely powerful and magnetic

[@robcrowe1202]

Taking a shot at Broad for not walking? yes because australians are known for walking, as evidenced by the reaction to Gilchrist walking once You make the other countries points for them bro, you just cant help yourselves

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

Still crying about Stuart Borad?...From a nation where no one walks 😆😆

[@michaeltaylor4395]

Hate is a strong word towards these players. I'd say they where stupid and a cheat yes, but once punishment has been served it shouldn't be held against them. As an Englishman if i don't see Warner and Smith on a team sheet for an ashes test its a good thing, but you've got to have the upmost respect for them on there performances as batsman alone, especially Steve smith who in my opinion is an all time great. The fans especially in England will remind them of it now and again "we saw you cry on the tele" but that's to be expected and id like to think opposition players accept they've done wrong and time to forget. I do think the media are a large factor in this and i still think they will now always receive negative remarks about them and will ultimately never shake this incident off

[@LiteralFilth]

2:12 well that didn't age well, did it?

[@davidmayers8981]

Fact is that Australia set themselves as the keepers of decency and then we did this. We cheated. We got caught. It was disgusting and embarrassing. I believed at the time that Smith and Warner should never have played for Australia again. The fact they have is out of my control and I wish them well. I enjoy when they bat well but I also have a little bit inside of that rejoices when they fall cheaply. Long live Australian cricket. We’ve had some champions throughout the years.

[@christoduplessis8177]

This apology documentary had me concerned all Aussies think this way which would be wild. Thankful it seems this isn't the way everyone thinks.

[@Jason-vj2io]

Obviously a lot of this excellent Documentary hasn’t aged well … Tim Paine suicided his career, Langers ego put paid to his career meanwhile the form of Smith has been ‘fluctuating’ (that’s diplomatic) while Warners has been unambiguously horrible (that’s honest). BUT - this is a great synopsis of the events of the day … many 🙏 thanks! Anyone who has met Smith or listened to him can quickly ascertain that he should never be a leader of peers. He’s clearly uneducated, appears in a world of his very own and extremely self-driven to the point of selfish. He often appears to have little idea of his surroundings or is unable to “read the room”. Of course some of these characteristics make him in the top 10 batsman Australia has ever produced. By as a Captain … no … definitely not (and yes I know he’s filled in when Cummins is out … but it’s out of necessity rather than choice). As for Warner … less said the better … time for home to move on

[@eeehan77]

"Tim Paine suicided his career". Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. There was no career "suicide" here. Tim was always brought in as captain to patch up the Australian team until the next captain was found. The incident with Tim Paine's alleged texts happened a long, long time before all of this, here in a galaxy far, far away known as Tasmania. The woman involved was a troublemaker employee of Cricket Tasmania and was in fact charged for stealing from Cricket Tasmania. This is not to say that Tim was not part of any sexting "scandal" with her, and it is something he admits, and admits it was "stupid". But it had been dealt with a long time ago. Tim Paine would have been considered as a fairly immovable object as Australian captain, and also as an excellent gloveman with a good batting record which was far better than what people appear capable of remembering. In order to CA to get rid of him this would have involved them convincing Tim to stand down. I think Tim was happy where he was, making the most of the situation of being in the Australian side (and being captain, furthermore) after spending so much of his promising career injured. CA always saw him as an interim captain and they wanted him gone. They now had the means to get rid of him, and they did so. There was no career "suicide" involved, this was purely driven by the CA's will. In keeping with your analogy, this was actually more of a "murder".

[@yahyakhalid6160]

i dont completely agree to the smith not being suitable for captaincy, as the guy regardless of being selfish is really shrewd in decision making and no he does not appear to be in a world of his own at least in the ground and can ascertain the surroundings much better than a lot of people in intl cricket

[@Jason-vj2io]

@@eeehan77 Mmm … I think the undertones to this is fair. That said quite clearly Carey would’ve been in over the past 12 months so the outcome was only hastened by 6 months or so …

[@Jason-vj2io]

@@yahyakhalid6160 right … well we completely disagree here😀 … Smiths performance at the Press Conference was the prefect example of what a bad leader of men he is and how he totally under estimated the issue at hand. He just didn’t get it. But he eventually did … and I think he’s a better person for it … one thing is for certain he’s unarguably in Australia’s greatest 5 batsman of all time …

[@GGSquad33]

@@Jason-vj2io hes imo top 10 greatest test batsman oat, and hes a decent captian as making field changes and reviewing hes pretty good at because he has rlly good knowledge of cricket, but as a leader you are right he is horrible, hes not a bad person, that incdient with bancroft in the itnerveiw, it was terrible but i dont think smith was trying to put the blame on bancroft and not him, but you never know

[@Bazzingaa07]

Why is this guy straining his voice so much just to get a bit of rasp 😂😂😂

[@greenplasticgun]

And Cricket South Africa proceeded to absolutely implode on itself leaving South African Cricket in a the worst position than it's been in for many a year. Well done, Cricketing suits.

[@tomoh8535]

Watching them cry like little kids is HILARIOUS! LOL What a bunch of muppets!!

[@romlemmon]

Whats old Bancrodt up to now?

[@Nevergiveup1369]

This incident has shaken smith to an extent.. he was brought down to grave unfortunately , I can feel his emotion .. the way he stood up and redeemed is an inspiration to many people.

[@royw-g3120]

Cricket Australia did an impression of the MCC after "bodyline" when they tried to get Harold Larwood to apologise. Shift the blame as low as possible.

[@MoveandExplore2023]

Loved your doco..All 3 parts for sure and this entire saga would forever be a blot on Gentlemans Game....But if anything Smith should have been banned from leadership role for life just for throwing young Bancroft under the bus in that presser and literally ending his international career then and there...!! Feel pity for Bancroft who we don't know might have been pressurised to tamper from the so called leadership Group!!

[@michaelbryant2331]

I’ve never heard something so biased. This is unbelievable I don’t know how one can try so hard to excuse this behavior.

[@alecschoeman1977]

Why does this story not include the issues from the Indian test series when the Aussies were using cheating signals from the dressing room for DRS situations?

[@GGSquad33]

r u slow, this isnt about that only trhe sandpaper incident

[@stuartcarden1371]

It will tarnish them forever unfortunately - Just look at the Bairstow runout by Carey at Lords in the 2023 Ashes. As an Englishmen, I say it was a legitimate but cheeky dismissal. However the boos running around Lords and chants of "same old Aussies, always cheating". said everything you need to know about how Australian cricket is still seen from the outside due to Sandpaper-gate. It will take until Smith, Warner etc. retire for the wounds to fully heal I think.

[@focusdecorating3637]

Even then we will still call them cheats. What about the Chappell under arm incident ?

[@niallpeake5971]

I really enjoyed the first two parts of this series. Alas the soft soap of the conclusion drawn are very timid and smack of fear! Smith and Warner should have been banned for life, there's no reason that Bancroft would have done this without prior instructions from his seniors!! Had there surnames been butt or asif would there have been such leniency??

[@McZoltanOnline]

As others have already pointed out. Why would Broad not walking be brought up in a video like this? Why ruin what was essentially a decent series of videos with this? Days ago, I watched Smith review an edge to the keeper... ultra-edge confirms that he hit it. Do we now have to include Smith's review in the next "biggest cheaters of all-time" video? Surely arguing with the umpire when you've edged it is worse than not walking. Note: Clearly I don't believe the review is worth mentioning... but neither is Broad. Such an odd thing to trigger Australians for the past decade

[@mayday92]

Marnus edging to Bairstow at OT in the fourth test and telling Marsh he hit it while England had to review it will be next up I'm sure

[@HCMCDrives]

No idea why you give Warner such an easy time. By all accounts he forced a young player into cheating, faced just a 12 month ban, and then walked back into the team. Meanwhile Bancroft never played for the Aussies again.

[@garryscanlan235]

Good effort my friend. BUT those 3 should never have been allowed to play cricket again. Look at the history of the Aussie team, they are always pulling cricket down. Don't forget the underarm ball or Bairstow's stumping. If Cricket Australia was serious NONE of that team should ever have played again. To your credit you do say the bans were inadequate, well done.

[@advrohitkamble6776]

But as per the time line of your documentary till now only an adhesive tape was used and not sandpaper..

[@monkeyman8297]

Love how you’re trying to blame everyone else except Australia

[@focusdecorating3637]

Haha innit

[@joschmoyo4532]

You know when the Australian team refers to England as the old enemy, that bitterness runs deep. Your average Pom really can't understand why Aussies have such a huge chip on both shoulder's but its there and it's very toxic. The need to win, to humiliate and deride opponent's, the cheating. It's everything Cricket is not supposed to be about. I think it's very sad and totally unnecessary. You expect Americans to cheat but it still shocks Poms to realise their cousins down under don't play to a higher standard.

[@nichobee]

Look, Aussies actually have a lot of time for Poms. For obvious reasons we naturally get along. I've travelled up and down Britain twice and everyone was naturally welcoming of me because of my accent. I stepped into a few dodgy pubs and received some 'who the fuck are you' glares, but once I'd opened my mouth their demeanour completely changed. The bitterness stems from a few things: 1. You used to be our colonial overlords and it's no secret that Aussies back in the day were treated by the English upper classes as second rate Commonwealth citizens. I particularly refer to Gallipoli. 2. Poms are pathological whingers and Aussies aren't. We hate it. 3. A lot of your younger expats tend to be 'too much' (but I'm aware that Aussies living in London can be annoying too, and I saw this parodied in a Peep Show episode) 4. The way you used to treat Warnie I think reason 1 is the most primary one. It's an attitude that got passed down to each generation thereafter. The other reasons are much more auxiliary.

[@joschmoyo4532]

@@nichobee You know what's sad ? My dad used to employ lots of Aussie's. We never looked down on them. They worked hard and played hard. Unlike poms coming to Australia, you guys got far better visa term's. Your average Pom doesn't take themselves to seriously, they use humour and banter to cope with the bullshit they get from the upper classes. Personally I refuse to buy in to the stupid prejudices. I treat people the way I would like to be treated and I'm tired of all this flag waving bs. I enjoy the game, not taking sides. Aussie's need to get over their inferiority complex. Nobody gives a stuff about that convict past anymore. The fact is that in WW2 we sent the most technically advanced squadron in the entire RAF to Australia to keep your back. 618 mosquito squadron. We sent you the best. We sent you Spitfires to replace your useless boomerangs. So much for gratitude.

[@trimad6128]

@@nichobeeI Agree with your comment mostly but I’ve met far more whinging Aussies.Fact is we are very similar which I think induces a rivalry which is great but goes too far sometimes

[@davidwynne1609]

​@@nichobeeWarne was, and is, probably the one of most popular cricketers of all time for English cricket fans, even over loads of our own. We absolutely loved that bloke and he clearly didn't feel that he was treated badly given he used to spend so much time here.

[@andrewthwaites2648]

This is pretty pathetic, to try to make excuses for what happened and try to sling mud at other teams is very poor form. There is absolutely no way that professional bowlers did not know the condition of the ball had been altered professionally and the bans Cricket Australia threw out were woeful. None of the players in question missed any meaningful, competitive cricket. It was very convenient that the bans were all up in time for the World Cup and the next Ashes series... Whilst it is always going to hard to pinpoint the exact circumstances around it, there should be no excuses made for this indiscriminate act of cheating. Smith and Warner should probably still be banned now.

[@Tony-nf6ru]

Lets be honest, if warner and smith were Pakistani they would've be banned for longer than a year. Amir bowled some no balls banned for 10 or so years. But affecting the ball for a whole session!!! But its alright they cried on national tv

[@qrc0deee]

exactly but cause they’re australian and they’re white ICC will let it slide like wtf

[@theojenner1902]

Tbf it was cricket Australia who handed the bans, not the icc. The lenient punishment from the icc is the issue

[@qrc0deee]

@@theojenner1902 ye sorry i meant cricket australia but still icc shouldve still handed out a greater punishment i agree

[@Roz0007]

amir was involved in something that was illegal, there is a huge difference between cheating and being involved in literal crime

[@costanza7379]

So much form with Australia which is why they're scrutinised so closely.

[@CSteelTigerPatrol]

Time ain't healing this wound

[@Paul-fr9ju]

Wounds healed but the scar will remain

[@lebesaselepe4897]

Watched all 3 parts, I don't know hey. Story is well covered but there's a huge element of trying to save face and looking for any possible excuses/causes other than South Africa outplaying Australia in Cape Town. The South African bowlers were swinging the ball at will, and the Australian bowlers couldn't - that's why sandpaper was used. That's all.

[@ContactReal]

Did you watch part 2? He clearly states that the Australian bowling attack had no answer for the saffers.

[@FergusNelson]

6:40 "Warner has been silent, and to his credit, has not disclosed the actions of everyone in the dressing room that day" No sorry, That is not ''to his credit' in my book. If the guilty parties were truly remoreful of their actions there should have been a completely open book as to the hows ans whens that this came about. So that the culture that allowed it to happen can be stamped out and proper sanctions be placed on all those involved. Otherwise, the culture and the omerta is allowed to continue. and just speaks to wider cover up amongst those involved.

[@focusdecorating3637]

Well said ! How on earth was that allowed to happen and him be back on the pitch for Oz a year later ? Absolute joke when you think about it, absolute disgrace

[@Chief_Brody]

Great documentary right up until the synopsis. We are in the middle of an Ashes series here in England and make no mistake, the Aussies are being reminded every day that they are cheats. As for Carey running out Bairstow, that is quite clearly not cheating but is against the spirit of the game (if this still even exists). Until Smith and Warner retire, the Australian cricket team will remain tarnished by their actions in 2018.

[@vampyresgraveyard3307]

Alex Carey's stumping bairstow against spirit of the game absolute rubbish any complaints is just whinging poms.

[@vampyresgraveyard3307]

Stuart cheating b broad

[@JGrowl-er9md]

Warner thrown under the bus

[@Redeye196513]

2023, Lords, Carey, Bairstow... yeah, really turned the corner forever!

[@focusdecorating3637]

We saw you cry on the telly ! Cry on the telllllllly ! We saw you cry onnnn tthhhheeee tellllllyyy !

[@Aus_Blade]

Should’ve been a proper investigation and found out exactly who was in on it. I have no doubt it was Warners plan, Bancroft was pushed into doing it and Smith went along with it, but don’t tell me the bowlers didn’t know about it ?? Bloody disgusting behaviour from the lot of them, and that’s coming from an Aussie. How nobody in the dressing room put a stop to this is staggering

[@GGSquad33]

i thinkk your understanding this wrong, i truly believe the bowlers didn't know, what i do believe though is that they knew when they were out there on the field because they're proffesionals, theyb would know if a ball is tampered or not, but lets keep it real if your made lets say has a little drink and drives, not full drunk but a bit over the limit, r u rlly gonna call the cops, ovciously this is a lot more serious but the bowlers wouldnt go up to the umpire and say yeah bancroft has tampered with this go ban him

[@MrBigcharl]

As i enjoyed the detail. What i dont agree with is the pointing of fingers at South Africa and how much they have to blame for what happened. I also dont believe at all that the bowlers did not know. But the typical Australian way of pointing fingers at others and blaming one man istead of team culture.

[@parkjohns9696]

With you for most of the video but I think you let Warner off the hook far too often.

[@focusdecorating3637]

For anyone non-Australian its easy to see what exactly what that little c*** is !

[@suede16]

Langer and Paine rebuilt the Australian team only to be thrown completely to the wolves.

[@adrianfoster6845]

A good factual examination but as per the comments below it sounds like a series of excuses and blame on other parties.

[@mike.47]

Crocodile tears, nothing but crocodile tears. Australia should have been banned from all international cricket for several years. Smith and Warner should have had a lifetime ban.

[@stevesalkas9128]

Only way other countries can win

[@focusdecorating3637]

Once England got their best XI on the pitch in the 2023 Ashes, they won pretty much every session played@@stevesalkas9128

[@Martin36544]

When a country defines itself by sporting achievements above everything else this is the outcome. Australias win at all costs DNA is responsible. And they have learned nothing… Lords 2023! The fact so many Aussies think what Carey did was fine, says everything!

[@pranavpratheekmalleboyina4483]

Not only Aussies, many people all over the world suport Carey since that was a perfectly legal dismissal.

[@Ben-rq5re]

Great documentary, but I always hate watching Steve Smith’s interview. The game was worse off the 12 months it was without Rain Man..

[@grantphillips5109]

WARNER SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LIFE TIME BAN

[@patrickjennings7884]

Carey's run out?

[@iangascoigne8231]

Hate has got nothing to with it. They are cheats pure and simple. I wonder if the creator of this video would have been as sympathetic if we were talking about a team other than Australia? Somehow I doubt it.

[@rutvikjere6392]

This is a great video, surely. But it’s funny how the aussies are so quick to point out Broad not walking in 2013, yet justify the blatant unsportsmanlike behavior from Oz cricketers. Same goes with Robinson

[@Weirdbloke10]

Other than Lehmann, basically every ex Aussie player Ponting most notably, supported broads decision to not walk as they never walked throughout their careers. For me it absolutely is hypocritical, I see the spirit of cricket as something that’s used when it’s convenient for the English, If the English do really believe in the spirit of cricket, shouldn’t they rise above the Australian players? But they don’t, if England really were infallible when it came to sportsmanship I’d say it’s a valid complaint but they aren’t, they complain about bad sportsmanship but never actually show good sportsmanship themselves when given the opportunity to E.G Broad, Andrew Strauss pretending to catch Phil Hughes, Root pretending to catch Marnus, Robinson sending off Khawaja. These actions are fine in my eyes, but if the English really care about the spirit of cricket they’d care about this stuff too, but they don’t. They just love to take the moral high ground when convenient.

[@yahyakhalid6160]

the comment section is seriously divided 😂

[@BiggestDavide]

How are you comparing what broad did to tampering with the ball with sandpaper 😂😂😂

[@vampyresgraveyard3307]

Australia would of won the Ashes if broad didn't cheat its actual fact he made an extra 15 runs and Australia lost by 13 Stuart cheating b broad

[@chrishowgill888]

only person emerging from this with dignity is boof(Lehman) and the commentator wants give GIT Warner "credit" FFS

[@jitendradubey9676]

Australians used to be worst behaving players. But after this incident they r trying to be gentlemen.

[@stevesalkas9128]

Well Lillie and others did start it in 70s 80s from all countries with fingernail open the Seam up

[@66bobbins]

Your film, though well made, seeks excuse after excuse for cheating. Frankly I think that Aussie team got off lightly. Of course the bowlers knew, it's inconceivable that they didn't, and that means that most of the current attack got off scot free while blatantly cheating.

[@focusdecorating3637]

Look at the punishments for Butt, Amir & Asif of Pakistan for their bowling of deliberate no-balls, they all got jailed ! And think about it for a second, in bowling the no balls they were actually giving runs to the opposition and couldnt even get a wicket off the balls they bowled.