Swiss Resistance: Battle of Grandson 1476 | Burgundian Wars Pt 2

[@glenng8185]

There is a famous swiss saying: Charles the Bold lost his goods in Grandson, his courage in Murten, his blood in Nancy.

[@wladyslawderstreiter9078]

good one!

[@miliba]

It even rhymes in German! Bei Grandson das Gut Bei Murten den Mut Bei Nancy das Blut

[@glenng8185]

@@miliba my grandma taught me the saying in german

[@scifilmmaking]

Ooo spoilers

[@narusawa74]

Je confirme 😢

[@mariushunger8755]

The castle of Grandson is still worth a visit! It's a nice spot, the structure is in a very good shape and there's a lovely museum in it.

[@paladinbob1236]

a excellent series ..showing some much needed history of the swiss provinces and their conflicts....well presented, well spoken with detail..which i recommend to all with a love of swiss military history..the time flies by when watching..and it all ends far to soon..cant wait for the next part ..my thanks for this excellent series :)

[@Khobotov]

Everybody gangster until the enemy infantry says "Grüezi".

[@cv4809]

Everyone gangsta till alps start yodling

[@Infbat97]

@@cv4809 nooooooooo LMFAO

[@TheGantus]

😂

[@Stickyrolls123]

I watch about 20 different history channels on youtube and found yours recently. I love that you cover the early modern era, one of the era's I know the least about. I also love how you do animation differently then everyone else. I like how they do it to but nice to see something different. There is no way you don't take off and get tons of subs in the near future. Thanks again for the content!

[@Thraim.]

Isn't hanging all of the captured enemies a really good incentive for all future defenders not to surrender but to fight to the last man? That makes all future sieges harder than they would need to be. What exactly was the logic behind that decision?

[@theghosthd1006]

He tried to intimidate the enemy. This can work but is a really risky thing to do especially if you aren’t already winning. But yeah in most cases it just boosts the enemys moral and makes them fight harder.

[@heirihunziker]

Executing the garrison wasn't originally intended by Charles, he got talked into doing it by the Vaudese who just had many of their cities and castles conquered by confederate troops in a blitz expansion (troops from Bern & Fribourg, supported by Lucerne). That expansion wasn't condoned by the other Swiss cantons but it happened anyway. Most of Vaud was part of Savoy which was allied with Charles, so it's no surprise that the Vaudese wanted some payback and pestered Charles about it. In the end it was a bad decision by Charles to go through with the execution of the Grandson garrison because in the next siege (Murten/Morat) surrender was entirely out of question, just as you correctly guessed.

[@Thraim.]

@ I can see that and it makes sense. But it doesn't look like such an ultimatum was issued.

[@matthewnunya8483]

On the by and large though you are correct. Killing anyone who is captured makes for excellent incentive to never surrender.

[@RafaelCosta-oi3be]

Also might make them prone to surrender before a siege begins, when it's likely they'll lose and be hanged if resistance is offered

[@VladTepes1er]

Thank you for this video! I'm from Grandson and I find it really cool how this video explains this battle. You transcribe the essence of this battle, it’s tip top!

[@lordham4191]

I have no idea how I found your channel but I’m so glad I did. It’s so different compared to what I normally watch but damn the quality is so high.

[@talamioros]

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[@VRichardsn]

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[@talamioros]

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[@VRichardsn]

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[@Dantheman813]

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[@drbestplus]

Grossartig, wie unsere Schweizer Geschichte kurz und bündig, jeden Interessierten näher gebracht wird. Habe erst heute von eurem Geschichts-Doku Kanal gehört und auch gleich abonniert. Bitte mehr, von der Schweizergeschichte.

[@mircorogenmoser1079]

GRÜETZI! Ihr hend das genial gmacht!! Danke!

[@Zaitekno]

Dini Videos sind eifach de Hammer! Bitte mach wiiter, chas chum erwarte bis de nächscht Teil usechunnt :)

[@sarahsidney1988]

Awesome video! I wish this channel had already existed back when I had to learn this stuff in high school

[@noemiekramer7699]

Stunning map and impressive Gewalthaufen!

[@weemmer989]

Fäzig jaa

[@moor-music9658]

I visited the castle of Grandson a few weeks before the Lockdown in Switzerland. It's a nice visit. In the castle they rebuilt the battle of Grandson on a big board.

[@MrProtopopescovici]

very nice my dude, keep em comin, love from romania.

[@diestormlie]

A Well-Funded, but poorly Discplined army seems like a recipe for diaster. And losing your entire camp, not just the guns? Honestly, I'd expect a large number of desertions before you could get your army resupplied and equipped.

[@Bladavia]

Love this series, because I actually live in this region, I can see the pass of Jougne and the town of Orbe from my balcony as I'm writing this, and imagining the Burgundian armies coming down the mountains and marching towards Grandson.

[@noehirschi1367]

Yeah i live just near Grandson in saint-Aubin, you can still visit the castle today and it is in pretty good shape

[@NH-bh5zq]

very well done! Nice speaker

[@sullivannix4509]

You’re now that channel that I am most happy to see has just posted a video

[@jacksonthesyndicalist2771]

I like this. Very unique style and its well made

[@phineascampbell3103]

I'm so glad so many other people love this channel! It's really good.

[@phineascampbell3103]

I mean, that is to say, I really like it. I think it's good. I'm no expert. But the topics covered, how knowledgeable it's done, and the enjoyable and informative way it's presented, these are all things that make me feel it's good. Yet as I say, who am I to judge?! But it seems I'm not alone.

[@eldermoose7938]

1)gave no quarter 2) gave up a strategic defensive position 3) disorganized formations due to complacency

[@jorge1582]

So happy I found this channel. Excellent.

[@JanHans]

excellent video. Thank you.

[@YoreHistory]

Beautifully done. Love this era...who am I kidding...love all eras :)

[@miguelmontenegro3520]

Credits to Charles by realy trying to use modern weapons with effect, against an OP strategy nobody knew at the time.

[@TheThingInMySink]

The Swiss at Grandson be like: ''My men and I would like to have a word with you about your personal belongings''

[@benjesterw]

I find Burgundian history so interesting, how an ascendent would be kingdom, was absorbed into France and Austria within a few short years

[@dhindaravrel8712]

You refer to Volker Schmidtchen a lot. Reminds me of my university days, as I attended some of his classes. Good times.

[@yavyav2281]

This is a very good serie and a great honour made to switzerland. I believe it’s one of the only serie in english that talk about this part of swiss history.

[@tillbuschmann7222]

Wie immer ein Traum

[@christinejoyinoc9185]

Feels like hell waiting for the next one!!

[@philippedelaloye4097]

Well done and explained! Much better that what we got at school.

[@clintmoor422]

outstanding quality

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

I just wish I was alive to see my grandson...

[@archenema6792]

It was your grand nephew, and he fled the country after precipitating the most foolish declaration of war in human history.

[@napolien1310]

Grandson!? Who are you talking about and why!? I don't get it

[@napolien1310]

@@archenema6792 who!?

[@archenema6792]

@@napolien1310 Louis Napoleon, President of the Republic, "conqueror" of Mexico, patron of the Parisian rebuild, amateur archaeologist, and sometimes Emperor Napoleon III. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@VRichardsn]

@@archenema6792 "And sometimes Emperor" You have made my day, good sir. _Merci_

[@aname6988]

I love your breakdown of the campaign, battle & aftermath, but I do have one small complaint: I´m of the impression that some of Charles "strategic mistakes" mentioned in this video should have been refered to as tactical mistakes (at 6:02 & 11:00). These did, after all, only affect the battle of Grandson itself, without directly affecting the war as a whole (even though Charles loosing the battle clearly did affect the war as a whole). Still love your content though, I wouldn´t even have an interest in renaissance warfare if not for your channel ^.^ Sorry for any spelling errors, english isn´t my first language.

[@Bird_Dog00]

Good video. Giving a lot of details about the battle I didn't know. One question: According to some, the garison of Grandson threw themselfes at Charles' mercy and thus, by the customs of the times, it was his right to do with them as he pleased. Others say, the garison only surrendred after being promissed fair treatment and thus, Charles executing them was a violation of the laws and customs. Do you have any information which account is correct?

[@EinFelsbrocken]

In any case; it was a bad decision.

[@fabricebechir8566]

Charles promised them to save their lives and excuted them. My sources: I am from Grandson and that is what is explained in the castle of Grandson.

[@VentiVonOsterreich]

I read that the Swiss didn't know that the garrison in Grandson were executed, and only found out after the battle when the soldiers saw them hanged on every tree branch within the city walls, where they screamed in anger, then there was mass mourning and bewailing

[@PanPshemko]

Could someone tell me the title of the track which starts at 1:04. Thank you in advance.

[@EinFelsbrocken]

Who would win? *A king with wealth; manpower; and political connections* or *_some sännebuebe with sharp sticks_*

[@matthewanderson6769]

Wish I knew more about Swiss armies, did they have knights on foot? Or an early type of officer.

[@fluffypancakes7626]

We didn't use cavalry as our troops were typically farmers who were from the Cantons' (states) well-trained militias. We also had the Late Medieval prototypes of NCOs and Officers like any other well-organized military force at the type. They were really strict on discipline, loyalty, and courage in the face of fear, which were our most prized assets to allies and contractees. Our military is more or less still the same today, though obviously the militias were federalized in the mid 1800s and most of us have never seen combat. However, there are rumours that some of the Warrant Officers who are Grenadiers, our equivalent of US Army Rangers, may have been involved in some fire fights when they had deployed on a Peace Keeping mission to Kosovo back in the late 90s.

[@wladyslawderstreiter9078]

Awesome series!

[@andreweden9405]

I can see pikes and halberds very clearly, but I can't make out what the hell kind of swords anyone's carrying to save my life! They just look like semi-longish things hanging at the soldiers' sides!😃 Anyway, as a musician, you might think that there aren't any classical music connections with events like these... but there are!😁 Two very renowned Late Medieval/Early Renaissance composers worked for the Burgundian Court. The most interesting and unusual part of it is that they not only worked for the dukes as composers, with the Burgundian musical establishment becoming one of the most illustrious music programs in the world at that time, but they also served as professional men-at-arms, and were likely even knights! The famous Franco-Flemish composer Gilles Binchois(c. 1400-1460) worked for Philip the Good, and possibly even participated in the capture of Joan of Arc. The other composer, Hayne van Ghizeghem(c.1445-1497), worked for the Duke featured here, Charles the Bold. For a long time, scholars believed van Ghizeghem to have died fighting at the Siege of Beauvais in 1472. However, more recent research suggests he may have lived on after this this event. The style of some of his music indicates that it was from a time after the early 1470s. Yes, we CAN identify musical styles from that long ago, with THAT level of precision!😁 Anyway, if you're into the history of this period at all, I would highly recommend listening to some of the music of these composers! It is some of the most beautiful expressions of knightly virtues and courtly love imaginable. Also, I believe music like this is about as close as we can get to experiencing time travel. I love Medieval weapons(especially swords) and music, and I especially love it when those two areas merge, as when I found out that some of my favorite composers were also knights! This is the song "Amours merci" by Binchois... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIG8eqeQqbOUb80 And the song "De tous bien pleine" by Hayne... kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqGzg6eXeNyZZ6s

[@colbunkmust]

Both the Swiss and Burgundians would have been carrying the same type of arming swords and falchions as were used in the rest of Western Europe during the late 15th century.

[@levilastun829]

It passed 2 years since the posting of this video but I have a question that I was not able to find a proper answer. I thought that the standard Swiss pike formation was 100 men in a 10 by 10 square, now in this battle it was mentioned a 10000 men pike square and that part confused me a bit, was it a huge 100 by 100 men square or multiple smaller spuares ?

[@christinejoyinoc9185]

Well when this serie ended you have to do the swabian wars! No one has really made anything about it.

[@vanivanov9571]

I might wait for subtitles to be added, before I watch this. It's probably worth adding the script to the subtitles before releasing the video, as that's when you want to get a big burst of watch minutes.

[@SandRhomanHistory]

Thanks for mentioning it, you're probably right. I uploaded it just a minute ago. It will take a while to process though!

[@vanivanov9571]

@@SandRhomanHistory That's fine. I hope it helps with viewership.

[@airmasquerade]

I was expecting a story about how Grandsons fought for their grandpa's throne. It turned out to be a story about how Rich Dad got plundered by local gangsters. 🤷

[@markusmoor631]

loved the video

[@oliviermosimann6931]

2:10 You mention the "Duke of Romont", yet on your video you write "Count de Romont" ;)

[@roggeranjos4477]

2:08 is the devil in the plantation?

[@SandRhomanHistory]

Well, it wasn't intended, but now I can't unsee it ^^

[@mino1205]

What means tempolärien (I dont know how to right it Sorry) History? Thank you.

[@MCorpReview]

Do u hv a vid on how Charles conquered flanders?

[@eriklasher3277]

id love coverage on the wars involving the British east India company and the French and native Indians etc. you rock!!!

[@chasemurraychristopherdola7108]

Can you do a video on the battle of Nancy and what happened there is you see the mighty Swiss confederacy and the duchy of Lorraine defeated and killed duke Charles the bold of burgundy

[@1987MartinT]

A war between 2 of the most advanced armies of the Late Middle Ages. This conflict really should be more well-known.

[@nicholashurst780]

Can I just ask about the etymology of the word grandson in this context? Because I assume it isn't because this town or whatever was named after the son of someone's son just existing

[@guzallamomo]

mix of german and french, probably meaning "at the great lake"

[@dking7985]

Maybe Louis XI and Fredrick III made peace with Charles to use Burgundy as a buffer state between France and The Holy Roman Empire. Any thoughts?

[@doctorpicardnononono7469]

wanneer ging Karel de Stoute op eeuwige vacantie? toen hij sneuvelde in Nancy!

[@HeroHoundoom]

Charles the Bold ( or rather Charles the Reckless) was a fascinating character, he tried to bring about a territorially unified Lotharingian kingdom. If he had not underestimated the old Swiss confederacy, he just might've been successful in his plans.

[@johnrockwell5834]

Swiss Pike Squares vs Chinghis Khan's Army. I would have liked to see.

[@olivertv6175]

Merci viumau!

[@Prometheukles]

U de vo wo bisch eig? I bi vo Thun Machs echt super Videos u Schwizergschicht isch mega spannend aber die meischte wüsse ni via drüber leider...

[@SandRhomanHistory]

Cicero? Du bisch vo Arpinum, Italie :P

[@Prometheukles]

@@SandRhomanHistory Imene früechere Lebe villech ;)

[@paronzoda]

Amazing

[@quintusantell2912]

Sound like Charles the *unBold* right now letting his enemy dictate when and where he fights. A real McClellan of a fella

[@colbunkmust]

Recently learned a very old relative of mine was likely killed in this battle on the Burgundian side.

[@ciuyr2510]

need a game with this age

[@josephwhitaker2379]

Eu4

[@jamesmacpherson1182]

I've got to disagree Scottish schiltron 1314 which I think the swiss adapted 🤔

[@brokenbridge6316]

Charles the Bold. What are you a menace or a savior? I'm sure the answer to this question is an interesting one?

[@matthewkuchinski1769]

Grandson proves that he who is prepared for his enemy will be successful. He who is unprepared, will find their mouth not tasting the sweet fruits of victory, but instead the bitter ashes of defeat.

[@dking7985]

How did Charles ALLOW the Swiss to just take the high ground and surveil him?

[@automatiik_yt]

Wow I am not used to hearing reconnaissance spoken like that.

[@alessandrogini5283]

If Charles reorganized his army and come back when the swiss looted the Camp,he could had swipfted the floor with the swiss?

[@everetbalforthe2681]

You know, I realized you sound a lot like Kommissar Binkov.

[@brianknetsch1165]

Please stop insinuating that it was original swiss army tactics.... The long spears looks very familiar to the phalanx infantry from Alexander the great whom has never lost a batlle...

[@mr.c.3760]

Phillip the One-Eyed would be proud

[@jacoblamb3535]

Everyone else: Bur-knees This guy: Bernice

[@aaronpaul9188]

I've always had trouble with the infantry revolution argument. As late as the 30 years war or even the 18th century armies could and did field half or more of their contingent as cavalry.

[@1987MartinT]

True, but cavalry no longer dominated the battlefield in the same way it had in the past. For a long time heavy cavalry was seen as the be-all and end-all in combat. The Infantry Revolution didn't result in cavalry disappearing from the battlefield, but it did result in cavalry being more easily countered by infantry. Though it was no longer THE branch of the average army it would remain a potent and(as you pointed out) numerically significant branch long after.

[@aaronpaul9188]

@@1987MartinT Numerically significant is an understatement. The proportion of cavalry to infantry during the 30 years war could be more than half. Take the battle of the golden spurs as a counter argument. Seen as the height of cavalry an a shocking setback, at most 1/3 of the french army was knights and men at arms. Cavalry is always more expensive, yet as resources increased the percentage of cavalry did as well. Take Pavia for another example. the infantry to cavalry ratio of the french there was 3:1. Cavalry was still seen as more important than infantry and the decisive element of the battle. Now maybe France is an outlier. But considering it was the most powerful single military during the time period, its one hell of an outlier.

[@1987MartinT]

@@aaronpaul9188 Pavia is indeed a good example of how cavalry had not disappeared from the battlefield. The French deployed as many as 6500 cavalry during the battle. Pavia is also a good example of how the odds between cavalry and infantry were a lot more even. The main French cavalry charge, led by King François I in person, did manage to drive off the Spanish cavalry facing them and then push back the Spanish infantry. But the infantry eventually managed to halt the French charge, and the Spanish musketeers and pikemen inflicted heavy casualties on the French. Pavia proves that 1. cavalry was still an important part of the army, and 2. it wasn't as powerful compared to infantry as it had been.

[@ieuanhunt552]

Criminally undersubscribed channel

[@tulsatrash]

What a complicated mess. Thank you trying to preserve the complexity while introducing unfamiliar people to it.

[@justme6094]

Aso i hett dene au eis ghaue, wenns so respektlos mit mine kapitulierende Kollege umgange wäred. Ihr sind geili Sieche. I han immer fest Froid, wenn ihr liefered :) .

[@koldonn1111]

When your Grandson has a battle.

[@alessandrogini5283]

So basically swiss made alexander the great phalanx with medieval armours and weapons

[@thepedrothethethe6151]

Just in time for EU IV Emperor dlc

[@GentlemanGhost1]

More than any mistake Charles was very unlucky during the later part of his life.

[@buffwarriors]

Another history lesson about how french are not made for war

[@ugolino453]

Interesting comment, thank you. By the way, would you please be kind enough as to enlighten us with the miliary prowess of... your own nation ? Which is.... ?

[@buffwarriors]

@@ugolino453 Do you know the menace rising from steps of Asia and concured the biggest connected land mass the world has ever seen?

[@ugolino453]

@@buffwarriors Well, any problem with your nationality... ?!

[@buffwarriors]

@@ugolino453 you've got your answer. Now, sit down.

[@ugolino453]

@@buffwarriors So... you are ashamed of your nationality ? Please tell us why...

[@miliba]

Bei Grandson das Gut Bei Murten den Mut Bei Nancy das Blut

[@brianoneil9662]

Yes I know this is idiotic and cliche but I keep visualizing two young boys wrestling over a Wuerthers. Btw, going to war in the middle of winter? Somebody was expecting an easy victory there.

[@marindraganov5897]

It is called BERN, the way it is written. Started to get really sick of hearing it pronounced like BURN...

[@prophetrexlexful8783]

why do we not learn this in swiss schools? but we learn about history of other countrys

[@iseeyou5061]

City name : Orbe My spelling : Or-bee The actual spelling : Ogh

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

what?

[@justme6094]

NEI !

[@KenDelloSandro7565]

Charles le Téméraire 🇯🇪

[@rascalferret]

these gunky dudes rival colored boxes...

[@gabrielvanhauten4169]

Damn charles was bad at war

[@medievalstorytime9105]

Go grandson!

[@joydrathasarkar2841]

hahahaha french has been running since this

[@neroclaudius7284]

Mmmm phalanx