Sugriva's Atlas - Part II | Nilesh Oak |

Newer research and newer advances available to date the ancient events have pushed the antiquity of Indian civilization beyond 24,000+ years. Archaeology evidence demonstrates the presence of Human beings in India for the last 100,000+ years and the presence of agriculture for 20,000+ years. Astronomy evidence of the epics leads us to the 13th millennium BCE for Ramayana and the 6th millennium BCE for Mahabharata.
However, we have scanty descriptions of what was happening in the other parts of the world and we know little of interactions between world civilizations of deep antiquity. Did our ancestors know of the areas outside Bharata and how much did they know of the world geography?
Do we have reliable accounts of the knowledge of world geography in our ancient narratives and is it possible to test their validity?
This presentation demonstrates an impressive knowledge of our ancestors of the world geography as early as 14,000+ years ago that not only is validated with empirical evidence but also corroborates what we know of the changes in ocean levels or the presence of human habitation in far off areas of the world.
About the Speaker:
Nilesh Oak is an author, researcher, speaker, and corporate consultant. He holds BS, MS in Chemical Engineering, and an executive MBA. He has published 3 books and writes extensively on ancient Indian history. Nilesh helps Indians become aware of the deep antiquity of Indian civilization so that they truly comprehend, present, or defend the grand narrative of India unlike most other Indic researchers because he builds it through scientific acumen and logical reasoning. He is adjunct faculty at the Institute of Advanced Sciences, Dartmouth, MA, USA.
Links to Nilesh's blogs, books, a summary of his original research accomplishments, KZbin channels and social media handles are here:
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Chapters
0:00 Background-Chronology of Ram-Ravan Yuddh
2:04 Astronomical evidence
7:39 Geography of Ramayana- East & South
27:50 North
30:04 People of the outskirts-Mlechha, Yavanas, etc
36:13 Shailoda
37:46 Arctic sea
40:25 The northern glaciers
45:05 How much has changed since the Ramayana?
51:30 Animals of Ramayana time
57:21 Vishwamitra
58:10 Pyramids
59:51 River Nile
1:00:44 Zoroastrians
1:03:34 Nal-Neel
1:11:58 Indic knowledge in the education system
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[@richardcarter9107]

I had a thought, it could be way off, but I was thinking about when Shiva did his dance of destruction and parts of shakti fell in 51 places, and then Shiva meditates for around 70,000 years. I was wondering if the volcano that erupted around 75,000 years ago near Indonesia could have been seen as an act of Shiva and if burning parts from the volcano could have fallen in those 51 places could have been regarded as the parts of Shakti because I've heard how they both represent parts of natural forces. I know how the earth goes through cycles and can come back very close to the same points in space. I was curious what parts of space we were in around the time when the volcano erupted. I'm not even sure if debris could fly that far, but they've found ash layers in the area. I only wonder because I've read how Shiva meditated for so long after sati pretended to be Sita and offended Shiva. It was just a thought that popped into my head and I was curious what the astrological evidence would say. I really love the work you are doing, and I have realized in the past few years that your culture has been responsible for almost everything great that has been invented, and I am amazed how the science keeps backing up everything that was in the ancient scriptures. Thank you sir. 🙏

[@sethu2214]

I've seen the entire Telugu interview of Bala Sankuratri, it's amazing, I've got some beautiful insights on Ravana lanka. After going through the Nilesh's research on Ramayana, I found out Bala's work is very true, but when in the comments section of that interview I've seen so many Trads(traditionalists, telugu people) opposing Bala's work. I think @SangamTalks should reach out to Telugu audiance also.

[@sntkmr9]

Link please

[@metro.decarbonation]

Your work is beyond any of our comments. Your dedication is astounding and immense. You are one of the best sons of Mother India who has compelled world historians to re evaluate popular history.

[@bubunbubun7602]

Jai Hind! Please subscribe (SHASWAT BHARAT) Note- spelling must be correct

[@peacockLife]

then learn and challenge that is the way to grow knowledge

[@HarshGupta-rs4pl]

Did Persians existed in 14000 bce. ?!

[@vanella9997]

Hats off to your work sir... We all sanatani appreciate your work 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@bubunbubun7602]

Jai Hind! Please subscribe (SHASWAT BHARAT) Note- spelling must be correct

[@AshishSaxena-qj8fi]

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[@joogledaily4937]

Sir is Mt meru a term used for star that represents west direction. If there is star for north and one for south, then does meru represent true west. Is that why there is no sun as the sun sets in the west? Agastya went south fighting with vindhya also is a star according to you. Hence meri could also be a star around which the sun rotates or representing true west.

[@Cosmic_Player]

We must include Ramayana, Mahabharat and Bhagwat Geeta in school education. Let's get this to the attention of Government.

[@vickydonor5922]

Secularism will fall in danger ...lol

[@VIJAYzk]

@@vickydonor5922 secularism is a one sided love

[@arpitasahoo7719]

Bali was after Sugriva life and Sugriva was on a run evading Bali's spys. He kept shifting his location and looked for hiding places around the world. Ultimately he rested in Rishimukh parvat when Rishi Matanga cursed Bali that Bali can not enter his Ashram region without losing life. Bali was violent fighter and he would throw bodies of his opponent in all directions some of which fell in Matanga Muni ashram. So rishi cursed Bali in anger.

[@alchmidigital2404]

Spot on! Climbed up Matanga Hill many times. Simply superb! Rishyamukh Parvata is opposite the Kodandarama Temple in Hampi, Karnataka.

[@padmabheeman1425]

Sugreeva's brother is vaali, not Bali, 🙂

[@raveendranpk8658]

@@padmabheeman1425 vabayorabheda

[@PankajKumar-yz2vo]

My intrest and exitement to read Valmiki Ramayana is more now... I am preparing for upsc I don't have time to read much books but I want to read your books and many more about our rich history... I am clear my future and I will read

[@DeeJain]

THIS IS AN AMZING EXTRACT OF THE KNOWLEDGE GIVEN IN THE VALMIKI RAMAYANA

[@khtsh]

👍👍 Really Amazing

[@raosaheb5637]

just amazing how much research is going in to this, hope the government uses this knowledge. we need paid research documentaries on these subject and screened in schools.

[@bubunbubun7602]

Jai Hind! Please subscribe (SHASWAT BHARAT) Note- spelling must be correct

[@maheshwaric8079]

Pls read up about KUMAR KANDAM too, and and particularly about what KARUVURAR SiDDHAR says about RAMA's actual PLACE of Antiquty.!!! Pls call up "Pathinen SiDDHAR Peedam "

[@maheshwarsinghrathore1146]

♻🕭🚫 Sri Lanka is actual Lanka other like Maldives islands also part of this, however current Sri Lanka is actual Lanka, 1, South side your idea is focusing only Sea lavel, but not sure enough, how much sea level, 2, senapati Sugriv ji only shown south direction for Ravna Lanka, he only know about direction not actually know where which part Ravna living with family in Lanka, Because King Sugrive already say during conversation with Sri Ram that he knew only direction but don't know where ravana fort . 3, Sugriv ji only travel all part of Global land but never go before Ravana's Lanka , 4, today 's Sri Lanka name change after Sri RAM win over Ravana Lanka , 5, in sri Lanka is actual Lanka their is lots of Ancient place belong with Ramayana Historical War on Ravana , 6, Their is part of Dron Giri parvat in Sri Lanka is still remain and match with Himalayan Geology, 7, Ashok vatika garden where Mother Sita ji stay , 8, Fortified ancient places their, 9, Sea Bridge connect main Land Lanka with Rameswaram area. 10, main Land Sri Lanka is actual Lanka, 11, if sea level only 10 meters that's time was Enough for making Nal bridge, 12, don't forget Godwana land regularly moving East side than since Sri Lanka is part of Godwana land with Indian main Land, 13 , so Sri Lanka is actual Lanka with near by all islands except Maldives what' so ever near by ...all other part of only Greater Lanka . Don't forget King Sugrive already say he only know Lank's direction during conversation with Sri Ram. ☉🕉♆⛳

[@akshatadarsh3441]

@@maheshwaric8079 Absolutely other than Valmiki Ramayana we should also include Kumari Kandam as authentic source.... Multiple literary works would strongen the facts

[@Alpha-tr7uf]

Great research. This has changed my perspective the way I look the world now. Simply mind boggling. There are many secrets hidden in our History. We need to dig it out

[@RAVIKHARDEKAR]

Dr. NILESH NILKANT OAK - is TRUE GIFT OF GOD to we Indians. Vedik Heritage of Shruti, Smriti, Upnishad, Purans AND Itihas Granths are preserved solely by great efforts by Indians . In actually memorizing the Shastras AND following them through cultural traditions. But simultaneously it is a great achievement for entire humans race . Thank You Dr. Oak for undertaking pains taking research AND prove the historicity of events described in Itihas Granths, accurate to a year, using Evidences from Astronomy to Genetics

[@desidark1243]

Oh my god. I don't think we have grasped the impact of this talk yet. This is nothing short of monumental.

[@ganeshbalasubramanian5206]

Very true. Will take time to sink in.

[@shilabaldew1840]

मैं सूरीनाम ( sth. America) की रहनेवाली हूँ । आप के विडीयो द्वारा मै बहुत कुछ सीखती हूं। आप को शत शत प्रनाम। यहाँ इस देश में इस विषय पर बहुत कम जानकारी है | thanks to social media we can come to know a lot of thinks of hidoty

[@Traveller77709]

Suriname and Venezuala connected hai kya

[@nosubject6899]

Hats off you sir. Hindus were ancient intellectual people.

[@geetacanpadee884]

Very inspiring & intriguing talk by author Nilesh Oak.

[@taitreyarr2715]

I haver perused all three of your books. My family family members are going through them as well.

[@smitashimpi997]

Very nice explanation

[@AnandRajappan]

Super points and thanks to Sri Nilesh Oak Ji to point to the KZbin channel 21notes. Super 👍🙏

[@TheRajKirandash]

Lots of love from Bhubaneswar, Odisha 🙏 big fan Gurudev

[@divinedestination8099]

Eagerly waiting

[@kritisrivastava4790]

Sattology says right that you are a Muni of today's era... Always appreciate your work...

[@JK-sr4le]

Proud of our great ancestors and great great civilization.

[@bubunbubun7602]

Jai Hind! Please subscribe (SHASWAT BHARAT) Note- spelling must be correct

[@ShSh-xi4rd]

You know you brought up polynesia and it was very interesting that I have 7% polynesain DNA and about the same Cambodian ,little bit of Afghan and rest all South Indian. I did my DNA test via Ancestry

[@satyam1529]

Great man

[@higherbeingX]

I did the the DNA test and i have sone central asian haplogroups and rest south indian haplogroups.Acty my friend who is from Bangalore has polinesian dna

[@klila16]

Interesting I’m half Indian but exactly 50% North Indian, depending on the version I sometimes get 3% of that half allotted to central Asian group Iran/Afghan/Pakistan region.

[@gopalraikar5054]

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[@pranavr9783]

@@klila16 so basically when it is iran, afghan, pakistan and central asia, you can say you may have ethnicity of khas people. particuallarly rajesthan, punjab, haryana , garwal, kumon and nepali ethinicity. khas or khasas in sanskrit is a very old ethnicity of india infact in indus cvilisation such as mohenjo daro we even find khas (kash, kush) coins in stupas. khas people are said to be one group of tajik people of central asia, and something like 2nd most ethnicity of afghanistan. You have to remmber 2500 year ago there were no islam and fire was worshiped in this region. the belief of budhism, hindusam even zorastrian cultuture was very strong. in context from iran (kashan< kashmor), afghanistan (kash provience), china (kash ghar), nepal (kash gad), india (kashipur, kashmir), pakistan (mirpur khas in shind and this place called mipur is even in kashmir so like it show this huge ethenicity from central asia, middle east like iran and iraq (kish), south asia and even 3 provience of china like qing gang and tibet. ofcourse in india people do have diffrent gene but central asia is because it is an iranaina gene that even found in telgu people about 30% of telgu. there is an evidence of connection. i forgot the gene name but if you look at khas dna it shows this vast gene pool. because in places like nepal they only married in khas ethenicity so even newar people of nepal live next door the khas are more relataed to french than newar people because of dna.so we do see this strong group of dna. some notable khas kingdome include gupta empire, kushan empire, khas empire, shah kingdome etc. even sikh empire of mahraja ranjit singh had fouje khas as one of his division of army..

[@kendriyavidyalayadibrugarh8897]

An eye and mind opener.

[@anandpriyadarshi6247]

I found our session today very insightful. I was pondering whether Plato's depiction of Atlantis could also be linked to the destruction of Lanka. Plato mentioned that the people of Atlantis possessed highly advanced shipbuilding skills. This raises the intriguing possibility that similar advanced ships could have reached as far as Antarctica or South America from our region.

[@gajanannatekar9056]

Many many thanks for these videos.. The best part of it is that, we should educate and re educate our children and parents too taking responsibility to pass the knowledge ahead.

[@followthegood1]

We are surprised. And our surprises are proportional to our ignorance. Thanks for such a remarkable research.

[@Nikunjtrvd]

Thanks sir for your service to human kind.

[@anupvkale1]

Great presentation by Mr Nilesh Oak. Calling Antartica as a Yamapuri or a dark land as well is an interesting description because if we look at the size of the day during winter season there it’s zero or dark time.

[@dubepb1]

You are doing great job Nilesh ji,I have started the study as per your suggestion.

[@ugc1784]

Those curious about the historicity & actual timings of Ramayana and Mahabharata, will go for Valmiki Ramayana only. Ever since I have come across KZbin videos of Nilesh Ji, I have been even more attentive to get more details of all that which was otherwise being overlooked by a common Indian.

[@manojkar12]

A belief came as I am sanatani my ancestors r such amazing people

[@satyam1529]

True. Even you can see other such video on Sangam Talk by Dr. Joshi who shown such reference where people literally says that their ancestors belongs to India

[@anantmvyas8271]

Utterly engrossing, enmeshing and enthusing collection of evidences from various schools of thought and various disciplines. Superb, superb, superb I'd say @Nilesh ji and Team 👌🕉🇮🇳🙏

[@aparnagiri]

Most awaited is here!! धन्यवादाः 🙏

[@yoginacharya2150]

Hats off to you Nileshji🙏 for you research and dedication🕉

[@prasunchoudhary8570]

I have been following your work for quite some time. It's great. Government should immediately take note of it, and include in curriculum.

[@paramanandchandawarkar2046]

Thanks for posting ! Excellent ! 👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Shoolpani]

I really appreciate the great knowledge you provide. I plan to open series of elementary schools solely educating about great Sanatan culture and high heritage we own. I have unfortunately very limited knowledge so would like to collect and channelize in simple methods for tender minds. Let me see more of your series, first get myself acquainted, thank you very much!

[@KarunanKannampoyilil]

Super analysis 🧐 Gr8 Congr8s

[@gooddayok]

Thank you for acknowledging the work of others when referencing their work

[@devishah5220]

This is so wonderful!!! Hats off to you sir!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@twotomcatsandi9955]

Thank you for sharing. This is eye opening.

[@veenabedi4252]

Thank you for ur hard work. Just looked into 21 note, very excited..

[@bobbynaidu100]

VERY GOOD RESEARCH

[@rkowlagi]

Excellent

[@kulbhushanphaudhary]

Brilliant Indian minds bringing the buried truth/ knowledge..Balmiki Ramayana....Amazing poetic flawless mind boggling.How they could come to all facts without modern gadgets.Think it was due the contemplation,meditation...could comprehend knowledge,for the masses. Or there more scientific gadgets developed at that time.

[@lebaldevampire6273]

Great work....beyond imagination

[@vikramtalwar7450]

Great research done by Nilesh Ji 🙏

[@ALC0A021]

🙏🙏🙏💞💞 thank you so much for doing this great work

[@sonaketu]

Great point on studying. It's a challenge for a lot of us because of lack of sanskrit knowledge, but I will look up the translations you mentioned on IIT websites

[@LUCKYMASON1]

This is awesome

[@debjani0222]

Pragjyotish and Bhagdutt being in West blowing my mind. So after many years in Mahabharat time the same Asura? I suppose then it was their Surname, of the same family line

[@tk2255]

Great work Sir.. 🙏🌹

[@checkitout3199]

Very interesting information bhai 🙏

[@buttegowda]

Thanks for the detailed description and presenting the researched material. I hope to see a similar video on Balaram's 18 day teerthayatra in Mahabharata from Prabhasa to Kurukshetra sir

[@srinivasmantha3638]

This is proven that the Ramayana and Mahabharata are not myth and it is our history It has to be teached in the schools and also Sanskrit should be included in the schools .

[@aniket385]

What scientific....he twisted so many parts like Removing Mlechha ruling Northern Indus plains.... something that happened after Alexander's Invasions.....so it cannot be 14,000 years back.....also Lanka being 1000 km west of India's tip while modern Sri Lanka is 64 away on East

[@abhirj87]

🙏🙏🙏🙏 Thrilled by the kinda research you have done. And like the way you stress on Tapasya in all most all of your talks.

[@bubunbubun7602]

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[@shayoneedas8571]

Great work Sir

[@maddybharathi]

Well this has to go viral in every which way possible.

[@aj-mv3un]

Niles ji , you are great ! I try to follow your talk on many matters. You do deep research . In the beginning of this lecture, their is brief mentioned of SOUTH-WEST direction. At long distance in south-west lies south-Africa. It's not yet another region. From sumerian ANUNAKI times , to today it supplies 75/ 80 % of word's GOLD. Michael Tellinger great Local Archaeologist points out evidence of 2,00,000 year gold mine .1,00,000+ year old ADAM' CALENDER site. IT IS PERFECT CANDIDATE FOR LOCATION OF RAVANA'S LANKA OF GOLD. NILESH JI , only you have capacity to link .

[@riya5914]

I had doubts about the same and wondered why Africa is totally missed out in all his research work. And do like to believe that it had some connection with Africa but like he keep on saying his friends like Rupa Bati are researching on the south India, they might come up with right location for Lanka. In Nilesh sir's recent video, he mentioned that Lanka area is submerged under water and can't be precisely located but somewhere on equator right at 0 degree if I remember it correctly ( he mentioned that it is under lakshadweep islands but if I look at the map, has to under/ around Maldives). I need to rewatch the video to find that out. You can find his talk on TRS clips to find that out. But yes I do think it was vague and in future Lanka could be found around Africa but making that long bridge of stones doesn't sound convincing either so maybe he is right about having it on the Equator.

[@KB6451]

Nileshji, thank you for all your work. I just ordered your books from Amazon to educate myself. Your comment about us educating ourselves is very important. I was wondering if you have a suggestion for a basic astronomy book with both the Indian and the western identities of the cosmic entities.

[@srinivaschittella8041]

Smart's Spherical Astronomy available as free download or any spherical astronomy text. Study about precision of Equinox ( even from internet)

[@subratmishra8757]

Excellent interpretation

[@bhatsarvesh]

Amazing work Nilesh ji. Is the translation of your work in other languages happening?

[@nitingupta626]

Brilliant 👏🏻👏🏻

[@ussinha1111]

Great research sir.

[@JK-sr4le]

Wao, amazing knowledge and work. Thanks a lot Sir

[@1panther485]

Amazing

[@ugc1784]

Ours (Sanatan Sanskriti) is not a dictatorial (one book one prophet) philosophy. It's meant for the educated & progressive.

[@bhupinder7489]

Very impressive 😮

[@hemanag1020]

Im currently reading "Dead mans secrets", an amazing compendium of ancient advanced civilisations. Also, many maps from the 1100s ad, 1300s 1500s, all showing the earth as it actually is.

[@aniaggarwal]

नीलेश जी आपने 21नोट्स चैनल बताया धन्यवाद🙏

[@joogledaily4937]

Nice work. One thing is clear. Sugreeva travelled to north or south in the Summer. Hence he is seeing complete light in the arctic and complete darkness in the antartic. One more thing i think Rama went to Sugreeva could be not for his help to fight the war but because he could have been famous at that time cause he had travelled the world. HIs knowledge of the world.

[@vickydonor5922]

Rishi told Ram ji to meet Sugriva. As u know all rishis are somehow connected with themselves...as Sugreva mentioned many Rishis who live outside Bharata...that means this information is passed through Rishis to India. So when Ram came Rishi suggest him to meet Sugreva not Vali. It's my thoughts one may disagree...welcome

[@deepanshumolasi7151]

where did sugriva mention rishis outside of india and what were their names@@vickydonor5922

[@had3018]

Simply brilliant mr oak

[@ravichauhan8384]

Thank you so sooo sooo much sir for sharing this knowledge and channel 21 notes❤️

[@mehrzadm8899]

I love the Astronomy part! Say what?

[@sitangshuray9506]

I think it was the ending of last Glacier age which lasted until about 11700 years ago, when Ramayan probably had happened in India. Thats why those northen China and most of the Russia was covered with thick ice. Great work Sir... 🥰🤗 Eager to learn more about this topic... 🕉🙏

[@lalitnambiar7118]

Namaste, Shri Oak, Thanks for the amazing work. Small quests, at 15:01 you quote the Ramayana verse that “sun takes time to go away”. Could this be a reference to long daylight hours in the northern latitudes like Norway?

[@VivekSingh-iw1jc]

Jai shree ram 🙏 Shastramev jyate 🔱

[@rameshkalannavar3790]

🙏🙏 pranaam 👌👌👌🙏🙏

[@kollaraomeda892]

Nilesh ji great work, thanks for sharing 21 notes.

[@thupulraghavan275]

You used the word 'thapas and swadyayi ' atleast two time in part 1. khuddos young man. I was in mumbai for 25 years. I thought people from south only read Sri valmiki Ramaya,. You are that" Sa Mahathma Sudurlabha" Sri Krishna refers in Geeta. Well done. Keep it up

[@girishramkhelawan2090]

Great work. please let me know how this can be funded so more research can be done.

[@Cosmic_Player]

The great Pyramid of Egypt is most likely constructed afterwards of Ramayana date (12209 BC). References: Sri Yukteshwar Giri (Guru of Paramhans Yoganand) and Edgar Cayce (USA). Approximate date given is 10,000 - 10,500 BC. Please check out.

[@aniket385]

What scientific....he twisted so many parts like Removing Mlechha ruling Northern Indus plains.... something that happened after Alexander's Invasions.....so it cannot be 14,000 years back.....also Lanka being 1000 km west of India's tip while modern Sri Lanka is 64 away on East

[@vasantha9111]

Wonderful work , Nileshji!. My pranams to you, will definitely do my part spreading this knowledge .

[@cookieb5132]

super amazing

[@rajupayel]

very good session

[@chitraariram1653]

Sir, i have started gaining knowledge from your videos and amazed by your work. Sir, Valmiki Ramayan is written in Sanskrit. Since then how the original version is intact till today?

[@TheGoldbags]

It was the last Ice Age.... Amazing

[@seshasaivenkat]

gems of nilesh oak ji

[@chintanguru7083]

With all due respect to your vast knowledge in this multi-disciplinary research. I can see that almost all of the Sanskrit verses are modified by the PPT when you copied them there. At an international level presentation of such great value, it can put off some of the Sanskrit enthusiastic. Anyhow an incredible subject. The more we search we are going to find even more precious gems which eventually find the 'Sat' and the Sanatan Dharma's center place in building up this world culture as we know it..

[@GoggaBachchan]

Question Why is Meru Parbat not the pyramids of Egypt. Meru is depicted as a pyramid in our books Meru bhoomi refers to a desert and most shockingly the pyramid is called Mer in local Egyptian language even now.

[@mjankiraman]

In 13th Millennium BC, India was under ice! No Ramayana!

[@amitpendurkar3991]

Wow. What insight insight

[@hantoh_.boliye]

Bhishak means Chikitasak in ayurveda

[@tushitis]

छान 👌👌👌

[@mailbhargav]

Great talk Nileshji, can you provide a talk on Nag/Ram Setu

[@shamvibhute136]

good.

[@gooddayok]

Regarding Sugriva travels - he had sidhis - to increase size or decrease size (like Hanuman)

[@drege8510]

Pranaam dhanyavaad namaste

[@DhruvPatel-zg1zs]

Please sir take some rest. You are doing great work. I will also try to do something.