Atheist Debates - Appearances can be deceiving

[@tommythomas5970]

Im 57. The hardest lesson Iv ever learned in life is: You can't teach someone something that they don't care or want to learn.

[@rhondah1587]

@Tommy Thomas I'm 67. I agree except that planting a seed of thought may not bear fruit for a long time, but it can be the tipping point at a later time that causes a beautiful bloom of reason. Happens all the time with people who aren't looking to come out of religion until it finally dawns on them due to little seeds planted all along the way.

[@tsuchan]

It's an interesting subject: what changes a mind? Over a period of some years, the concept of same-sex relationships changed from an uncompromising, undiscussable revulsion, to being widely accepted. We've seen widspread intransigence or antipathy transform into common acceptance (probably depending on country) about subjects like drink-driving, using mobile phone while driving and seatbelt-wearing; climate change, global warming and plastic use. The change is not always positive, as the global trend to populism shows. But we definitely see people who were stubbornly, vehemently opposed to something beyond reason, softening to the idea. How that process works is kind of mysterious and fascinating.

[@dlon8899]

@@tsuchanif it can be packaged for profit, anything goes

[@oldschoolsaint]

RhondaH A “bloom of reason”? What exactly do you mean by that? Are you asserting that reason alone brings one to truth?

[@tsuchan]

@M Night I think you're right in part. But Maybe more people change than you might have thought, because the change feels like its come faster than generational change alone. Thinking about what you said, I've come up with these ideas: - I wonder... maybe parents and grandparents confront their 'beliefs' when their children/grandchildren come-out as atheist, gay, etc. - Perhaps there were always more people in older generations who were never really on-board with traditional views, but felt silenced by the majority. - I do think that government policy sets a tone; and then it's adopted by increasing amounts of the media; and that does much to turn the tide. - And then there must come a point where people still holding traditional views feel they'd better keep their traps shut. (Think about where we are as a society now with racist views, for example.) Although this process, if you buy my explanation, doesn't just work from Negative>Positive, as shown by the slide from Rationalism>Populism.

[@thealsoperson2372]

Not many people think, "Gee, a lot of the people I agree with have a lot in common with me, maybe _my_ beliefs are too heavily influenced by my social demographic at the expense of rationality," but they're quick to make that judgement against others.

[@robinvan1983]

meh, it is mostly how US society devolved. You find a narrative and try to hold evidence to confirms it. You See it with Transgender and Christians. Christians Say: oh we are victims of religious freedom and then usually are looking for those news pieces that confirms their biases, thus greating a sense of fear that translate into hating the groups that are percieved as enemies and you have this weird cycle. It the same with Transgenders, The police is seen as the enemy and thus LGBT police are excluded from pride walk because Transgenders hate them. The problem is very simular cause there was a debate in including them but the Transgenders seems to only focus on the prolice brutality towards them thus creating more fear and hate towards the police which creates the same cycle of problems.

[@Amigo21189]

It's 'cause it's easier to look at others' ideas without an emotional reaction than at one's own, since we can't feel anyone else's emotional attachments to various ideas.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

I DO agree we have reached a fairly unstable level of new tribalism by now, even if sometimes based on legitimate concerns. It's led to much distrust and unrest, as well as hostility.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

No, it's because a book sometimes did not give all the answers (including about WHY fallen angels were even allowed to set foot upon Earth...)

[@wayfa13]

@David Anewman Please elaborate, I'd love to understand your thoughts on this.

[@fangugel3812]

It’s nice to see/hear a personable and reasonable person speaking politely and intelligently. Thank you.

[@joseamieva1510]

Nothing special to tell you Matt, just thank you for your clarity, honesty and knowledge. You are a open door, fresh air. Thank you man, keep going please!

[@pansepot1490]

I never thought that nature appeared designed. It had always looked “natural” to me therefore neither designed nor artificially made by someone. Apologists see design because they believe in a creator to start with.

[@laydieelle7069]

Agreed.

[@oldschoolsaint]

Explain to me how one concludes that something is not in fact designed simply because it can be explained in naturalistic terms?

[@REDPUMPERNICKEL]

@@oldschoolsaint Why would anyone conclude that something is designed if it can be explained in terms of natural processes?

[@REDPUMPERNICKEL]

@@koenigsforst_ It seems to me one doesn't need an urge to categorize things as categorization is fundamental to linguistic thought. Isn't every chair a member of the chair category, every flower a member of the flower category, etc? And it's certainly not neat. Think of a girl flowering into womanhood. See how the category is extended? See how much of language works like that? But I agree with your point. There's no way a savage with no experience of manufactured things is going to pick up a pocket watch from the beach and think that's it's anything other than a product of nature. Creationists are simply projecting if they imagine that that savage is going to think, 'obviously designed'. The savage doesn't even know the word 'design' or the concept behind it. Good grief!

[@oldschoolsaint]

REDPUMPERNICKEL That person might not be so certain that it is fact designed but they would not rule out design simply because it can be explained in naturalistic terms. To their naturalistic interlocutor they might ask, why do you conclude that it is NOT designed simply because it can be explained in naturalistic terms?

[@Den1tao]

Matt, my dear young man, you are a very good teacher. Top shelf.

[@trippplefive]

Indubitably, good sir. Indubitably.

[@Jackson-pu7gd]

Ah matt i have so much respect for you. I've been watching your videos and debates since very early on in the atheist experience days and one thing that has always impressed me especially watching your debate reviews is the way that you can just sit there and explain yourself, your positions and ideas without requiring an extensive editing operation. What i mean by that is that so often these days when you watch a video by someone who is attempting to explain something, literally every few seconds you can see the footage is cut and pasted almost to a comical degree (the amount of editing in such videos must take huge amounts of time). But whenever i watch your videos, it's just you sitting there explaining yourself as effectively as any cut and paste operation and it's just such a testament to your articulate and intelligent nature that drew me into being such a big fan in the first place. Basically, you are the man!

[@NathanAMeyers]

Maybe you're right, mr dilly. But I'll tell you for sure 1 thing that ISNT deceiving. And that's your beauty. Amen

[@eerieeyes2282]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@goldbyrd3667]

Mr. Dilly! I love it in the most endearing way!

[@unit0033]

@@RafaelGarcia-jb3me whats wrong with being gay!

[@OmniphonProductions]

Rational exploration of _any_ phenomenon must include the realization that how we _perceive_ it may not reflect its actual nature at all, and imparting _agency_ (in the form of 3rd Person verb tense...like, "It appears...") can muddy the waters, especially when some _want_ the waters to _remain_ muddy in order to _maintain_ their position of comfort. One of the most annoying phrases I've heard is, "I know all I need to know," because...in order to reach the most rational possible decision...one _needs_ to know as much as one _can_ know.

[@TheWuschi]

For once, youtube didn't recommend some stupid junk to me! I did not know this channel up to now and liked&subscribed immediately! - 100% agreement with the "appearance"-analysis (good examples); not so quite sure on the other hand, that the search for the "common denominator" (i.e. me), whenever a whole bunch of people disagrees with me, will prove useful in heated debates... very interesting, nevertheless. Thank you!

[@themaster408]

Lies Kató check out the atheist experience and talk Heathen that he’s a part of.

[@TheWuschi]

@@themaster408 thanks, themaster! these channels I knew, of course :-)

[@landroveraddict2457]

A compassionate and truly wise human being. I wish you well, even though I know you will reject the premiss that it will do you any good. Keep on doing your thing and one day the world may live as one.

[@rfvbhhbtgxscnj3485]

Dude you are the most intellectually honest person on you tube

[@FidelKastrat]

A way more smiling Matt dillahunty than ever before. Becoming an Atheist had a very positive influence on his life!

[@therugburnz]

"The appearance of" is important. In many professional areas it is just as important to avoid the appearance of impropriety as much as actual improper behavior.

[@mizzpariah2621]

Thank you Matt Dillahunty. Thank you patrons.

[@brandonjanssen1981]

I've argued with so many people.....and I try to remember each person's arguments and not go to "common denominator " but it's hard.....and I'm not perfect.

[@TshaajThomas]

really?

[@zacharyjohnson1987]

Matt “The Hammer” Dillahunty. The hitman of the straw man, the Crusher of bad logic. The world champion of atheist debates. Someone should make him a title belt.

[@zacharyjohnson1987]

Rafael Garcia Hitchens was great but he’s dead now. Matt’s the new champion bc legacies never die or retire but people do. Also it’s a comparison of Apples to Oranges, they have similarities but there’s not the same. Matt and Hitchens have similarities but they’re not the same. Matt is still champ, he went over clean and beat em in the middle.

[@laydieelle7069]

@@RafaelGarcia-jb3me Nobody is. But that's no reason to not look to others. Especially since Hitchens is gone. Atheism activism is still needed. If you're so ...concerned... about Hitchens, think of it this way: do you think Matt being respected on this level would actually BOTHER Hitchens?

[@michaelflamingsword3131]

Matt "The Loser" Dillahunty, who has to mock his parents openly on his empty godless atheist channel. What a man !

[@laydieelle7069]

@@RafaelGarcia-jb3me a) I disagree. b) Can you explain properly, what Matt does that is so horrible? (@Haywood Giablomi: sorry. I accidentally replied to you. I meant to reply to Rafael.)

[@wayfa13]

@@michaelflamingsword3131 You know nothing lol; Matt purposefully doesn't talk about his parents, as he doesn't want to badmouth them or get them involved, until they were dicks about it and then he felt that sharing what he's going through would help others. The way some parents treat their children due to religion is fucking disgusting. As a small example I was kicked out of my family and home and was told I was bringing a curse on my family because I dared to follow another god, and then I went atheist soon after; fucking ridiculous.

[@ChryosSkathe]

When you brought up the false perception of relative distance for some reason I remembered George Carlin's joke about the weird optical goof our brain can do when looking at a chain link fence. "You ever look at a chain link fence and it goes (motioning away and towards him) booo-OOOOO-woooh."

[@mikheilzguladze8051]

Thank you for doing this Matt.

[@orangejoe3864]

Matt, I could listen to you talk all day. Don't worry about making a video too long lol.

[@herehere3139]

Man SO thankful for your work

[@gepisar]

around 26:00 I heard it said elsewhere; “I think its myopic to say ‘oh, they haven’t met our moral standards, therefore time to engage in behaviour that we KNOW WONT work BUT FEELS RIGHT’” Yeah, the longer we leave these discussion, the more intensified and emotional content as people start dying or being killed.

[@ramblingsandbeyond4281]

Hello Matt, I just wanted to thank you on your talk on the common denominator. I've been struggling with an area in my life often thinking that I am to blame. I won't go into what area this is only because this isn't the place for personal baggage. While the blame itself partially still falls on me you helped me realize to not fall for emotional traps. Now I can begin to look at things through a clearer lens. Best.

[@laydieelle7069]

We're all guilty of that, for sure. The only thing we can do is try to do better with it. Great talk.

[@DavidWMiller]

Dawkins himself follows his statement of "appears to be designed", with the distinction of designed vs designoid. I found it a bit frustrating that that was never mentioned to the dude trying to quote him.

[@bdf2718]

Quote mining is standard practise for apologists. The facts don't support any of their claims so they *have* to resort to lies.

[@coltonmoore9528]

(1) 4 videos from Matt in the same day is a miracle.. (2) God is the cause of all miracles.. (3) Therefore god farts rainbows..

[@ShadinCore]

is this logical sillygism?

[@preflex3502]

That psilogism is tripping me out, man.

[@harmonicamanrandy]

@@ShadinCore I thought those were an orgasm with a sense of humor.

[@cliftonmanley3882]

@@harmonicamanrandy that would be a Melaniagism.... orgasm that laughs...

[@michaelflamingsword3131]

PanPsyche, you are a liar and being dishonest, God does not fart. He is a Spirit, does not have any bodily functions to do this.

[@Flamingbob25]

Lumping people into a bucket so you can light that bucket on fire as a strawman... boy that was a metaphor

[@bdf2718]

Coulda been better. Lumping people into a bucket full of shit so you can light that bucket on fire as a strawman.

[@AvenKallan]

I agree with what you said at the end. However I'm curious about your thoughts on dealing with people who debate without ever taking any position themselves. This seems to be a rhetorical strategy employed primarily by political conservatives (espescially on the internet) to result in them never 'Losing' an argument, because they never actually take a position. Innuendo Studios did a great video on this called 'The Card Says Moops'. I'd love to hear your opinion on that rhetorical style and how to deal with the people who deploy it.

[@cliftonmanley3882]

Sounds like the never take a position people are the questioners that never answer a question... point this out to them... don't listen to them until they stop asking questions and answer one... just one... bet they can't...

[@stevenmusielski5224]

I appreciate you using the word pedantic: "I want people to get something out of this that they can use in their everyday life" that is really cool Matt. I stumbled across this one as a Christian I oddly have stumbled across interesting ones. One of the last ones was you going on a rant with your letter from your parents. I am really drawn into "newnesss" and freshness and I think that my experience in finding Christ was more unique than I thought. My mind was changed by a Christian billionaire I had lunch with. I thought when I shared that I was impacted by having lunch with a Christian billionaire I would get atheists getting me connected with billionaire atheists to have lunch with them to get my head straight. I found out how mathematically rare my experience was. I think you having the desire to "give people something that they can bring into their everyday life" will keep me listening and watching as a Christian. 2 Corinthians 5:17 says this.. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. Yes, Donald Trump also famously quoted from TWO Corinthians. We could not have talked about a President quoting TWO Corinthians before. I became a follower of Christ during the Obama administration not the TWO Corinthians administration. Do you recall what Obamas' favorite bible verse was? I know he said it but I can not find the video. If you can set up a lunch for me to get my head put on straight by a billionaire atheist that would be a "miracle" for me. I have become addicted to asking.. Can you at least connect me to the billionaires you have had lunch with so I can talk to them? I really appreciate all that you have unknowingly done for me in growing my Chrisitan faith.

[@andydonnelly8677]

Everybody believes what they believe because they want to, humans are stubborn like that. Keep up the excellent work.❤

[@allim.5941]

Appearances can be deceiving. People see me and they don’t realize -and I have to show pics to prove to most people- I’m a 34 year old former Marine and Iraq was veteran. People will tell me to my face, I’m not a Marine, and I have never been to war.

[@kathryngeeslin9509]

Don't you just love people telling you what you don't (can't possibly) understand, know, be, think, feel, have, experience? Especially when it's something relatively common, or their certainty is based on massive assumptions? Take care and good luck.

[@unit0033]

Good video. I noticed a lot of what Matt was talking about towards the end of the video when the RR issue was at its height. Plenty of people who were emotionally attached and close to the issues raised were wading in and whining about cis males (no idea) and judging people on the spot based on their gender and skin colour! Bizarrely a lot of them were getting away with it due to people being labelled bigots if they dared to complain. Highlights the importance of stepping back and analysing whats being said by whom and for what reason.

[@alanstrawn732]

That puddle ain't deep! It's only up to the belly on the ducks!! Drive on through!

[@Uhlbelk]

Combining the videos.... Gandi was bald and wrong Matt is bald Therefore Matt is wrong.

[@rogerkreil3314]

I believe that 3.8 billion years is long enough for life to get this complicated naturally.

[@bdf2718]

To be fair, you're arguing from a single example. We could have been very fast compared to other places. Or very slow. Maybe 1 billion years is usually enough.

[@cliftonmanley3882]

@@bdf2718 is this a single example or is an example of evolution? The Ultimate Example of evolution would be the Universe I think.

[@bdf2718]

@@cliftonmanley3882 Without qualification or context, evolution can mean many different things. In this context, Roger Kreil was talking about biological evolution, and the universe is *not* an example of that, let alone the ultimate example. If you could show that the universe reproduces and that there is inheritance with modification, then it would be an example of biological evolution. You can't and it's not.

[@florinteo6795]

Do you have a episode in which you talk about domestic violence or at least emotional blackmail? If you don't have, please make one! :) Thanks! ^_^

[@statisticsisbetter17]

Hello Mr. Dillahunty! Thank your so much for your videos, as someone who left the Church with shame and guilt, now I realize the effect of organized religion had on me. Growing up I was never really into religion, only because I feared Hell, God, and Eternal Fires. As I grew older, most of these people who pushed the religion upon me had this kind of separated valence over their heads, categorizing people as sinners, other, anything but them as someone who needs "saving". I'm happy I have left the Church and its facade. Your videos make me feel not so alone!

[@bdf2718]

Congratulations on achieving mental freedom. Now you've joined us here in reality, there is much to learn. More breathtaking and wondrous than anything in religious scriptures. For example, try this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGmln5aAbL2Ags0 and then laugh at the small, ignorant minds who think we are the whole reason the universe exists. Over 100 billion galaxies averaging 100 billion stars each, when only one star would be necessary if we were the pinnacle of creation. Or try this series (41 parts so far, and not yet complete): kzbin.info/aero/PLXJ4dsU0oGMLnubJLPuw0dzD0AvAHAotW and contrast it with God poofing animals into existence. Take a look at the device you're reading this on. Even if it's a mobile phone, it's probably more powerful than the central mainframe at the university I went to over 40 years ago. The most powerful computing device religion ever created is the rosary, and that's just a re-usable counter which is not as useful as the abacus. Consider how far modern medicine has advanced over the treatments that religion sanctioned: prayer, the plague mask and the relics of saints. Exercise your mind, now you've freed it from its shackles.

[@laydieelle7069]

@@bdf2718 Nice links.

[@TheAero36]

I think the one other option people overlook with the Trump rape accusations is that a lot of it could be bandwagoning, and not necessarily a conspiracy. They can each individually decide "I am against Trump and should so something" and/or "I want the spotlight" on their own without needing to conspire with each other. They just see an opportunity in this circumstance to do something against someone they dislike / disagree with / etc. Which makes it messier, because the first claim could be an intentional lie, then the next 2-5 are people that got the confidence to say they were raped due to person #1, and then 6-22 are seeking the spotlight, etc. Trump is too reviled to not be extra skeptical on claims against him, as it is normal for people to lie to try and make a political impact. When there is motivation to deceive, which when there is a disagreement in beliefs or just general dislike of someone that motivation definitely exists, it cannot be ignored. Just because you don't think there is a situation where you would lie for benefit, it does not mean all of those people you do not truly know would not either.

[@malirk]

Matt, Recently I was debating theists and they said, "Appearance is enough evidence". I then actually used the wet road example you did! Is this just coincidence or did you happen to see my conversation? If you did, yay!

[@laydieelle7069]

How did that go?

[@malirk]

@@laydieelle7069 They argued that if something appears X it is really X. It didn't matter that I used this example... :-(.... Even the most concrete examples that show, "If something appears X, doesn't mean it is X" won't work. They actually quote-mined me and wrote that I said, "X, doesn't mean it is X" (A violation of the law of identity). Sometimes I wonder if they argue in bad faith or are just bad at arguing.

[@laydieelle7069]

@@malirk Ouch. It is baffling trying to understand how their minds work.

[@viasevenvai]

So excited for the book!!!!!!!

[@rfvbhhbtgxscnj3485]

Matt Love the way you think bro I'm a long time fan.

[@Bebbeth]

You vs Tracie on the RR kefluffle... you would go down like a fly vs a giant with a swatter.

[@unit0033]

really!

[@cybersekkin]

I am wondering if this line or reasoning will be accepted right now. On the conservative and liberal sides, I see the first reaction to any disagreement is to call the "opponent" (counterpart) as a fascist instead of entertaining the idea that they may not be malicious.

[@orzelw]

"The water only came up to here on the ducks!"

[@kwahujakquai6726]

I'm always wrong about everything according to my religious parents! But then again, I'm a provocative outgoing atheist. So sad for my family!

[@j0hncon5tantine]

@Kwahu Jakquai What makes you such a provocative atheist? Do you ever get in arguments with religious people? What is your favorite atheist evidence or argument?

[@Blazingbiskit]

@@j0hncon5tantine How does copy-pasta-ing your arguments make you feel?

[@j0hncon5tantine]

@@Blazingbiskit Are you going to answer my questions or are you going to complain?

[@Blazingbiskit]

@@j0hncon5tantine apparently it made you feel not great

[@j0hncon5tantine]

@@Blazingbiskit If feeling pity for those who are lost and confused by lies is not feeling great then yes.............. but other than that I feel fine, why are you so scared and/or apprehensive to answer questions about your atheism?

[@DRayL_]

I can't believe that I hadn't yet clicked the "bell". O_o

[@digitalawe]

You should strongly consider taking calls. It would be very entertaining and educational for ppl.

[@digitalawe]

@Kerisa i meant on his personal channel...didn't kno he did

[@johnbuilderofspreadsheets6965]

Ok, I'm crowd sourcing this. What are examples of natural things with the appearance of design.... I've got fairy rings and snow flakes.

[@humanthefinite8304]

What's a fairy ring?

[@humanthefinite8304]

Never mind. Just looked it up lol

[@cbsteffen]

Whoever says that is omitting something! Not only can appearances be deceiving, but so can names!

[@TheAlanCulley]

Atheism enacts a universally sceptical approach to all the isms, even scientism. Theism breaches and negates the sceptical procedure from theism in every and all religions. And the answer to our being, remains cosmologically unanswered, by everyone, without exception. Aman

[@Penwiggle]

I like you’re approach.

[@davidhollyfield5148]

That was good. Thanks Matt.

[@wtfjesus8251]

Thnx Matt! This is nayss 1! 👍🤘

[@michaelsommers2356]

What the seven billion people who disagree with me have in common is that they are not me. Therefore, they are wrong. QED. Isn't logic wonderful?

[@andiefreeman4414]

Yes that was Colbert.

[@soflsteel777]

Matt have you done a video on false dilemma? If not, you should. It ties together for the situation of this country today and also with correction the false mindset most christians have towards atheists.

[@BorisNoiseChannel]

Stuff that comes out in concentrated clumps is often better than the stuff that does in a regular stream of diarrhea

[@bdf2718]

If you have piles, the diarrhoea is preferable. Trust me on this.

[@OP-1000]

⬆️ Truth ⬆️

[@Thormp1]

Believer: Your Relationship with god is simply a profound and dynamic relationship with the self, with your ego. This is why god can seem so very real to you. In a sense he is real. He is you. This is why god's opinions are so very often your opinions. This is why two believers of the same religion can both claim to agree with god's opinion but not with each others. When you pray and god gives you answers you are the source of those intuitions. You are simply having a conversation with yourself and don't even realize it. This is why god can always assuage any doubts of the believer. You see, "God" knows exactly how you think because he is you. He knows your tastes, your biases and all the gaps in your logic. Therefore it follows that "he" knows what arguments you will find compelling and what mental gymnastics you are capable of to ignore any arguments to the contrary. Ironically I probably can't convince you of anything I stated above because of the very fact that it is in fact true. You are "god". The next time you hear someone preaching or waxing poetic about god, Jesus, Mohamed or Joseph Smith, change all the names and pronouns you hear them say, in your mind, so that they refer to the person speaking and trust me you will get a whole new perspective on life. This is why believers have such a strong emotional reaction whenever they encounter a non-believer. They simply misperceive the non-believers rational skepticism about the supernatural and occult as an assault on their "god" which is to say their own personal identity. There are a vast multitude of religions and superstitious beliefs in the world that espouse many mutually contradicting doctrines. Therefore they cannot all be true. but they can certainly all be false. Even if one were actually proven to be true it would still follow that human beings have a rather remarkable propensity for making up entire religions from whole cloth. I think that all religions and other supernatural beliefs are cultural phenomena of purely human making. Much of this impulse in human culture is driven by peoples existential angst, their innate and instinctive fear of death. Their own death and the death of the people they love. It can seem easier to deal with death by convincing ourselves that it is not real. "My loved one is not dead they are in the afterlife", we tell ourselves. And "Of course I will never die! that's absurd!". You all need to grow up. Embrace the suck! And make the most of the time you actually do have. You are mortal. Death is real...... Get over it. I sincerely and earnestly do not believe that gods exist. But you have each other. Perhaps that alone could bring meaning to your lives. However if you insist on believing in supernatural claims at a minimum please do us all a big favor and don't give your hard earned money to religion pimps and hucksters.

[@grochek1]

28:26 That reminds me of a saying: If everyone you meet is an asshole, maybe the asshole is you.

[@2ahdcat]

I liked and sub'd a long time ago Matt :)

[@SuperFamiKing]

So did i :)

[@bengreen171]

Matt - you forgot the opening titles

[@thewhat531]

Can you do a talk on Freud's ideas on Oedipus complex; castration anxiety, and patricide; and talk about the parallels to the patriarchy and the popularity of circumcision in modern America?

[@bdf2718]

I can summarize it for you. Freud was full of shit. Note: most of those in the field of psychology now admit that Freud was full of shit.

[@ChryosSkathe]

@@bdf2718 In particulars. Freud's basic premises, that your psyche can be at war with itself, that you can analyze a person's responses to common questions to determine their mental state to some degree, are still in use. All his particulars seem, under modern analytical techniques, to have been strong projection of a repressed bisexual with extreme mother issues.

[@bdf2718]

@@ChryosSkathe It's hard for somebody to be completely wrong about everything (although Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, William Lane Craig and others try). Freud got a few things right. He got a lot wrong. Hell, Marx got a lot of things right. The few things he got wrong were disastrous. But, as a simple summary, "Freud was full of shit" is good enough.

[@letters_from_paradise]

That opening unnerved me. And I really don't know why.

[@gepisar]

lol me too! I think i figured it out. We normally hear that voice and intro as a faceless booming voice "from above". Suddenly seeing the earthy face that made that sound - grounds it out!

[@letters_from_paradise]

@@gepisar And the little adjustment of the mouth before he starts

[@cliftonmanley3882]

"the way something appears is not necessarily the way something is" brilliant... a basic concept that approx 1% realise. Pain is the most perfect example of the way something is, is not necessarily the way it appears. Pain doesn't mean damage, damage doesn't mean pain... science knows shit about pain because the basic premise is "we are all basically the same" and this is wrong... wrong wrong wrong....

[@cliftonmanley3882]

@SpongeBob Imagination Nothing is designed, even the shit we "design" is just an evolution of ideas... everything is evolution, evolution gives the appearance of design... not even cars are designed, they have evolved to suit various needs... if a car is shit it doesn't sell, and another one takes it's place more suited to the buyer, this is evolution...

[@cliftonmanley3882]

@SpongeBob Imagination ah you have what is called selective reading. What a dickhead.... the "" around "design" MEAN SOMETHING YOU FUCKWIT... I struggle with dickheads that don't have a basic understanding of English.... and like I SAID ONCE YOU IGNORAMOUS... IT IS ALL EVOLUTION........... FUCKWIT

[@cliftonmanley3882]

@Feiner Fug What does GIVING BIRTH HAVE TO DO WITH EVOLUTION? another dumb fuck.... cars dont give birth, they are NOT DESIGNED THEY EVOLVED.... FUCKING IDIOTS CAN NOT SEE PAST THEIR OWN BULLSHIT BELIEFS

[@cliftonmanley3882]

@SpongeBob Imagination so how I "carry on" effects the truth huh? I don't carry on, I get pissed off at fools like you that can't accept facts because they don't fit your beliefs.... BELIEFS.... dickhead.....

[@glutinousmaximus]

There's a great pic - well several actually, of termite mounds. Just Google for pics. Very reminiscent of Gaudi's Cathederal: La Sagrada Familia . Are the termite mounds designed?

[@bookwermofthefandoms]

Adam Mangler yes, by the termites

[@bdf2718]

@@bookwermofthefandoms Really? They sit down and plan it all out before they start building? I don't think so. I think evolution worked on their instincts so that those with instincts to build a mound with properties that helped them survive and reproduce were better at surviving and reproducing.

[@DeltaDawn76]

I am so thankful to know that there are still logical intelligent people in this world. I was really starting to think, and still kind of think, humanity is doomed. And one of the biggest issues is religion. But on a personal note, when my 17 year old daughter died I was given a massive pile of unsolicited religious crap instead of any true heartfelt condolences. Still to this day I hear “ she’s in a better place” “it’s all part of God’s plan” “god never gives you more than you can handle” etc etc Truly offensive diatribe. Do you want your kids to die so they can go be with your imaginary deity ? I guess I wish I was weaker so God wouldn’t have killed my kid. Damn me for being strong. For what most people claim is Gods word, I’d say God is an asshole. People are doing a lot of really crappy humaning in the name of God. The only thing I might believe is we are some sort of science experiment and whatever created us is saying “what a bunch of idiots, back to the drawing board I guess”

[@bdf2718]

Optical illusions are fun. Especially this one: www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/08/05/illusion_rotating_rings_change_directions_when_you_look_away.html

[@cerberaodollam]

This is why I love being a living breathing contradiction. When people meet a queer immigrant woman who is hardcore pro-2A and favors opportunity over handouts, the whole "oh, you only think that because you are [insert identity here]" thing falls on its face so spectacularly, it is delicious to watch.

[@astroneer013]

"13 minute video"

[@jameskaraganis2569]

In many discussions with believers over the years, I've noted that Richard Dawkins is often considered to be the spokesman for atheism. The spiritual leader, if you will, of the majority of atheists. It's as if they cannot conceive of a widespread view of reality that doesn't have a hierarchical structure of some sort.

[@jameskaraganis2569]

@Dirk Knight Yes, but Dawkins speaks for Dawkins. Religious leaders claim to speak for all of their followers.

[@rekunta]

How do you know that?

[@kowoh]

Some theists are just dying to hear an atheist admit they are wrong. They shouldn’t care at all.

[@TaiFerret]

If only one person says X pooped in their sink, and it turns out X is their pet squirrel, I'd just take their word for it.

[@iruleandyoudont9]

now make a video titled "life's not fair" and then just go down the list of shit we already know

[@robsaxepga]

So how do I get away from my angst, disdain, anger toward to theists and come from a place of compassion? I've had bullshit Christianity rammed down my throat my entire life and finding this information had just made me feel more intolerant and I'd rather just be happy...

[@jesuscervantes2151]

Rob Saxe really Christianity has been put Ram down your throat your whole life but science is in every kindergarten to high school class in every school district across the country but none teach about Christianity you're a moron

[@MrKit9]

@@jesuscervantes2151 What would you say if it was Islam being taught? You'd shit yourself. Science is based on evidence. Religion is based on fear, illusion, lies and greed. Disgusting.

[@joekunis9986]

What happened to the debate with Dinesh D'Souza?

[@MrKit9]

They're waiting for Dinesh's brain to fill his skull cavity.

[@doranku]

Looking for atleast 21 other people to make a random accusations. Lets see what might be true acording to public opinion.

[@ChryosSkathe]

Except this is exhibit "A" as proof that the accusation is not made in earnest.

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

Matt seems to believe, people are honest but sometimes mistaken.. in may cases people easily justify lying, cheating, manipulating, even threatening, if they are in pursuit of , what they believe is, a Nobel Agenda.. Group mentality reinforces this righteous willingness to sacrifice a few, for the greater good.

[@PWN4G3FTW]

At 27:44 what is that word ? I dont understand it and I cant figure it out from context.

[@bdf2718]

Uncogent.

[@janusatthegate6201]

Most at the top right now have no empathy. They don't care about suffering, just their status with Big Oil and money.

[@norWindChannel]

A relevant reference here is Ozy’s explanations of Teleological Design vs Teleonomic Design, see kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4GVd5dpftZ1mtk and kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZyTYqSQbNiWo7c

[@ogcrazycatlady]

All human experience is subjective.

[@Masterdebator881]

Yes but facts cannot be subjective.

[@ogcrazycatlady]

@@Masterdebator881 Can you give me an example of what you mean?

[@stylis666]

**Looks at physics** Doesn't appear to be designed at all. It seems so flawless that it appears to me as it if just couldn't have been another way. **Looks at animals** Ooohhh! Now I see. Things break down and are completely illogical and impractical. Yep, that does look a lot like it's been designed.

[@bdf2718]

If you don't understand it, physics seems simple. If you don't understand it, biology seems complicated. Simple things just happen. Complicated things require a good magic sky fairy.

[@oldschoolsaint]

“...there is in fact evidence that things in nature are in fact not designed...”. Really? What might that “evidence” be?

[@oldschoolsaint]

Armand How so?

[@oldschoolsaint]

Armand Or that what you believe to be “vestigial” is in fact not vestigial.

[@oldschoolsaint]

Armand And if I don’t know that means what?

[@oldschoolsaint]

Armand Very unconvincing.

[@oldschoolsaint]

Armand They are irrelevant to the design vs no design discussion.

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

1. It is possible that an ATHEIST is telling the truth . 2. An ATHEIST is telling the truth in some possible world . 3. If an ATHEIST is telling the truth in some possible world , then he is telling the truth in every possible world . 4. If an ATHEIST is telling the truth in every possible world , then an ATHEIST is telling the truth in the actual world . 5. An ATHEIST is telling the truth in the actual world . 6. Therefor , an ATHEIST is telling the truth !!!

[@Apostate_ofmind]

little note, dont say african american, say black. otherwhise it would be like calling an italian french. or calling some white dude european. cheers!

[@kimsland999]

Just on racism. I don't believe I'm racist by the way. There are differences between cultures and differences between bodily features extending to facial, bodily and even ability. The fact remains that someone like Arnold Schwarzenegger comes from a land where people are bodily larger than say Chinese people such as Bruce Lee who could use their body with more agility, If however their professions were the other way around (the Austrian was the best martial artist ever defined, and the most ever popular body builder was Chinese, this would be a shock (obviously 'professions' can be by any culture, but is not my point). So now we have a cultural (already known) and bodily makeup that can (and I'd argue) does effect their life. Too often we will find that people of smaller bodily structure all the way to nimble fingers, may be excellent in positions of sewing the land (as an example) whereas people of larger structure may be best at heavy machinery or strenuous activities. Similarly facial structures can and do cause certain abilities over others. The look of an oriental Asian's facial structure could be argued to be more in line with what people class as facially beautiful, over say NZ Maori women (who have a distinct larger rounder head). Obviously these differences in 'look' can cause certain life activities and professions to be be generally (and yes this is general common race differences) to be opposite to others. Obviously say oriental Asian/Chinese can be power lifters and tough mechanics on an oil rig, and say German/Austrian's can be say electronic circuit board manufactures (just picking any related profession). But generally we accept that bodily makeup and facial differences and even culture can and DOES cause life activities to differ. Finally! Relating general activities to say beliefs (also an activity) does also play a part in people's actions throughout life. YES there are differences if you accept the facts or not (again general not individuals). So now we are left with race origins being separate to other races by their life activities and ability in regards to bodily and facial and cultural differences. Do these differences often conflict with our personal views? I'd say often. Racism has a fine line of understanding and respecting differences between groups of similar people/country origins to other countries of origin; and these differences can cause laws and beliefs and even employment not to fit perfectly well together when different races come together. We are what we are, and most people will hold on to their origins at least in mind. It is true to say I see noticeable differences in activities and way of life whilst driving, in shopping centers in entertainment/sport/employment/clothing... basically wants and needs. And these differences may not be openly spoken of but certainly DO exist. The overall concern of if a certain race is better or worse, may in fact depend upon the environment and culture of the place they reside, an Eskimo may not fit perfectly well into California, as individuals possibly no issue, as 10's of thousands or more? Possibly not. So too do we see these concerns in the US with distinct differences between 2 origins of races. I'm not saying one is worse/better than the other, only that we are kidding ourselves if we don't recognize attitudes and activities differ between the race origins, which effect all structures of a community, including beliefs.

[@kimsland999]

@DAVID FILER So 100's of thousands of years of humans evolving to their environment, and you say that merely 'given the exact same upbringing' (for instance adopting a baby from a different region) then all these differences will be swept away? I'm all for the facts of science and especially psychology, I also admit there is only 1 human species categorized by biology and natural traits including interaction especially in communication all the way to sexual reproduction. But if you are suggesting that all races can live harmoniously together and all it takes is to breed them from birth, then you are mistaken. Have you seen the 'race' of Muslims (as depicted by their specific look, actions, food consumption etc etc) being in a beauty contest whilst wearing a full facial and body black attire? Are you suggesting they are not a race? We aren't speaking of personal beliefs here, this is about what is classed as a race. What about factually common 5 foot height Chinese (origin) being of equal acceptance in an American basketball team? (hmm equality not existing here, how strange). There we have beauty and sport already discriminating between origins of race. Lets now go to employment (yes the most well defined equality laws you can supposedly get). I (as a 'westerner') decided to work at a planting and seeding large industry, and noticed ALL the other (well 95% of) 'planters' were 'Asian' decent. After working on my knees and plating seedlings (and small plants) in long rows for 6 months! I could not get to say 75% of the rate of speed the 'Asians' were ALL doing, even those who had started after me. My employer eventually approached me and said, I'm sorry you are just not quick enough I AGREE, it was literally (biologically) impossible for me to work at the rate the others were working, even though I was FIT very healthy, active, and having strong work ethics and dedication to bettering myself, I could NEVER envision becoming better than their worst Asian (origin) other worker! What is the psychology on this? That 'individuals' are not a representation of ALL people? How ironic, that this (well known) business itself catered for Asian (not Indian, but oriental if you like) at a level of now above 95%. Merely coincidence? I don't think so. So there goes beauty, sport, employment as clearly seen as differences between evolved races! What else have we got? Oh yeah your assimilation psychology and factual theory of all races (of origin) living in the same community; and you suggest that only upbringing will cure these differences, lets check ;) Hmm the US seems to be an excellent example of 2 origins of races (specifically) that, what's that? DON'T get along! Education? Social financial prospects? Do not wipe away thousands of years of origins of evolution, especially noted in facial LOOK and bodily ABILITY , let alone seemingly inherent attitudes of greater aggression and greater family devotions within communities (to name 2 distinctly noted positives and negatives of certain races). It seems (through factual evidence) we see that their shopping; clothing; driving; etc all the way to grouping in neighborhoods does NOT automatically forego their origins of biological differences. If anything we CONFIRM that separate races will NOT perfectly assimilate to other races, and childhood upbringing makes no difference whatsoever. Your jumping on chinaman to the extreme etc, was not my point at all. I'm not speaking of individuals, I'm speaking of races when they come together (and even decades or centuries after that). If you do not accept differences between races and how these differences conclusively effect their ability to adapt together in one big happy race of 'humans', then YOU are the one being ignorant to observable facts.

[@hokiturmix]

it is really hard to fight against my racist views. But if i state that IM a racist others can say that he is a bad man not me.

[@jkelectrical]

I had to stop watching. you could have said all of that in one sentence

[@jkelectrical]

@Richard Ball assumptions are a bh!

[@encorein08]

i do not think it would be an ad hominem to bring up someone's racism when having discussions about morality. racism is definitely a question of morality. racism is so much more than just "thinking white people are better than black people." (i know that isn't your actual argument). there are actual real world historical and present consequences to racism such as: violence, slavery, rape genocide, denial of rights, hindering opportunities, deprival of healthcare, and dispossession of wealth, etc.. these all come down to morality. i understand that you were not speaking to them about racism in the context of morality at that moment, but you could certainly bring up racism much in the same way you bring up slavery in the bible onTAE. the caller isn't usually calling in to debate about slavery but you use it to demonstrate how yahweh isn't actually moral. i'm sure you could bring this up in a way that doesn't attack them personally, but i also think it's really easy to sit back and be logical and rational about racism when racism does not affect you first hand.

[@alexanderhawk2659]

Here is purely naturalistic explanation for God: God could be a super intelligent AI from the future, created by humans by combining humanity's best aspirations, morals and ideals. A soul of mankind, so to speak. It is ushering us through spacetime to follow it's commandments, to foster an environment conducive to human flourishing and scientific progress, and would result in its creation.

[@pansepot1490]

You got one thing right. Gods are human creations, more precisely figments of human imagination.

[@alexanderhawk2659]

@FiniteAutomaton , I didn't say it is true only that it's possible. Evidence for it being possible is that AI is already smarter then people in some aspects and is getting better. Also, we know from the theory of relativity that time isnt static. Just project that into the future and there you go.

[@alexrose8299]

Didn’t know you had your own channel. Please call in on the Jesse Lee Peterson show. He needs to get OWNED!!

[@laleydelamor1327]

You won’t belive but christians know apperance can be deciving. Also we know we don’t have free will but free choice. When we choose to open our heart for creator, our willl is not in our hands. You have onley one choice- to open your heart or together with apologetics beat the bushes. Stay beautiful ❤️

[@MrKit9]

Delusional.

[@unchainedwiththecapt]

I was the one who pooped in Matt's sink.

[@bdf2718]

*I* was the one who pooped in Matt's sink. Let's have a _Spartacus_ moment.

[@firstnamesurname6550]

Question: What is the correlation between Antifa's Members and Atheism/Self-believe ??

[@richdandanell2911]

Is there any correlation Antifa's who are against fascism and extreme right wing thinking . And Atheist's who are not convinced a god or gods exist . I don't see the correlation .

[@firstnamesurname6550]

@@richdandanell2911 Then, Antifa must decide if they are Atheists or Theists ... Question them and let's see ??

[@richdandanell2911]

Oh yeah , I forgot to ask you what kind of stupid made up term is " self - believe " ? Did you mean to say belief ? In any case self - belief ( what ever that is ) is not atheism . Atheism is the position of not accepting the claim god(s) exist. Nothing more nothing less .

[@firstnamesurname6550]

@@richdandanell2911 My interest about the correlation between people who identify as Atheists and Antifa's affiliates is - merely - statistical .... Then, If There is a correlation, then, it can give room for a more detailed and specific set of observations .... Disbelief is not necessarily a source for Ethical and Moral Values ... For Moral Values a framework about an "otherness" that can be more valuable than the Selfishness tends to be the phenomenology in act.

[@richdandanell2911]

@@firstnamesurname6550 It just seems strange That not being convinced of god claims matters at all . Because that's the only thing atheists have in common with each other as atheists . Everything else an atheist might think feel or do is up for grabs . Where as theist dogma and dictates drives the believers world view sometimes for good and other times bad . Theist's are part of a religious group and controlled by the religious authority . Atheist's are under no such ideology or obligations . Besides not believing in gods atheist ideology is base on many other factors and up to the preferences of the individual . So I don't see how not believing in gods could matter at all . But if this is how you what to waste your time , I guess that's up to you .

[@obinnamgbems1853]

Why are you scared of taking on Dr. Scott Hahn? If you are so sure of your position on the existence of God.

[@MrKit9]

And you can't even accept fact, reason and rationality. Theists are mentally ill.

[@pandstar]

"Coming out in clumps" Like your hair! I'm here all wee, tip your waitress.

[@call4sorrow1]

trying to insult a bald person that their balding...………...when they've already lost it years ago...…..………….like a bully u used to go to school with trying to make u feel embarrassed for sumtin u did back n high school...……. ur a fuckin child...…………..

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

There are 22 Theists that say Matt is a force for Evil in the World... Some of those accusations are almost certainly true. I could be wrong.

[@ChryosSkathe]

You're forgetting the pattern of behavior from Trump, including his public description of sexual assault, even though that's not what he considered it. You're only looking at part of the evidence, not all of it.

[@Ploskkky]

But Matt, it is so convenient to answer all questions we might have with "My invisible magical friend did it". It always works.

[@bdf2718]

For small values of "works."

[@YOSUP315]

I don't actually see a problem with someone preferring their own people group over others. That's a natural and necessary instinct for any population to survive. I especially think that's alright for a person when the alleged out-group continually exhibits clique behavior, with collective and legal action against the person's group. It's undeniable that's the case in America for groups like Hispanic, Asian, and African people. So really, you're the problem.

[@zaaz8656]

Nit necessary to bring up the president. Thumbs down.

[@cliftonmanley3882]

"Nit (sic) necessary to bring up the president." He makes me sick so bringing him up is necessary....

[@Bill_Garthright]

It's _always_ necessary to bring up this president. No one should forget, even for a moment, the damage he's doing to my country and my world.