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Who else hates having to return home after a relaxing few days in Hawaii? Inevitably, all good things must come to and end, and I had to return to San Diego on Hawaiian Airlines flight number 16 out of Honolulu.
Helping to make this a “not-so-depressing” experience was the fact that I was seated in the premium economy (Extra Comfort) section, and all in all - it wasn’t all that bad. Except for the food.
Flying time was 4 hours and 40 minutes, and my seat number was 17G. The aircraft (an A330-200) was registered as N361HA.
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[@noahmoelter6757]

Random piece of information for you Scott: This summer San Diego had the 12th best load factor on flights from the US to Frankfurt with Lufthansa at 94%

[@sanspotter]

12th best? How many destinations does LH serve in the US? If it’s 13, I think we’re screwed... 😬😬😅

[@noahmoelter6757]

SANspotter from what I counted they serve about 20 in the US, but San Diego was only 4% lower than the #1 airport on the list so that’s not too bad

[@ryanwilson2665]

Length Vs Girth? Take me out for dinner first mister spotter 😂😂

[@sanspotter]

Having second thoughts about opening up the girth vs length discussion... 😬😅

[@Tj-kg5iw]

@@sanspotter hugs ... lol

[@CaptainZacYT]

Scott: “I’m definitely going to do this flight sometime later this year” COVID: “Hold my beer”

[@yuval159]

The ash tray is there so if someone was someking there and a flight attendent would confront him he will put it out in the ash tray and not throw it to the trash or the toilet

[@FlyersAviation]

Fantastic Trip Report Scott!!! Every video of yours have been awesome throughout the year and I wish you happy holidays and a happy new year!!! 2020 here we come!!! :D

[@GenkisTravels]

Awesome video. An inspiration into making my own trip reports :)

[@sanspotter]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it. 😎👊🏻

[@BayAreaTraveler]

I can totally relate Scott, I too anxiously awaiting during boarding to see whether there is anyone sitting next to me. Again another nice report!

[@sanspotter]

Thanks man! Yeah, it’s the worst AND best part of the flight. 😅

[@anita5050]

Happy New Year, Scott. Thanks for somehow finding enough angles to review a otherwise dreary and predictable back-of-the-bus experience. Keep it going!

[@Aviatial]

Another awesome video, always brilliant with your amazing sense of humour! :D

[@pawekrakowski9017]

Hi Scott, thank you for another amazing video and for all of them as well. I love to watch you every week, very happy Christmas to you and your family. Also massive thank you to all of your patrons for helping you in 2019. Guys great job. Greetings from Poland

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Pawel! Merry Christmas, and thanks so much for supporting my channel by being a regular viewer. I’m very glad you’re enjoying my content!

[@stevebee5840]

Thankyou..thankyou..thankYOU....Scott for great trip reports this year. Have a wonderful christmas. Look forward to more reviews in 2020.

[@sanspotter]

You’re very welcome Steve! Merry Christmas to you as well!

[@dustinmuniz9170]

Scott ventures into the girth versus length debate and I just don’t know what to do. Another great video!

[@abitofeverything7892]

Merry Christmas Scott and a Happy New Year in advance

[@southwest737pilot]

Thanks for the great video!!! See you next year!!! 🎉

[@robertkosko1317]

Fun Fact: open air walkways are called a Breezeway! 😊

[@music68man71]

As always a fine review. In the past 18 months my wife and I have taken 7 trips from LAX to Hawaii to visit our son & family on Maui, all flights on Hawaiian We have flown 1 first class, 1 economy and the rest have been Extra Comfort trips. All except one from LAX to OGG. One was to HNL with a connection to OGG. I like the extra pitch of the EC seats even though I am only 5'11''. Until, I believe it was June of 2019, one extra feature of the EC seats was the in-flight entertainment the movies were free. Now all seats receive free IE. The Hawaiian First Class was great but for a trip of 5 hours, just too rich for my budget. That particular trip was a special trip. For those unaware, Hawaiian now offers a Basic Economy too. (Gee, do I sound like an ad for the airline?) Keep up the good work!

[@anitascarr7982]

Sweet Onion Maui chips!! Yum! My favourite heavily salted snack treat! Happy Holidays! Love your videos!

[@sanspotter]

It’s a good thing the single-serving package was so small - I could have easily demolished a full size bag of things. 😅 Happy holidays!

[@erinscovell1039]

Flew Hawaiian Airlines in 2011 from Phoenix to Honolulu. Excellent flight in economy. Great food, comfy seats and extremely good service on board. Love this video!!!

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Erin! Yup, can’t go wrong flying Hawaiian Airlines. I do recommend avoiding the chicken pesto pie thing they served on this flight however....😅

[@erinscovell1039]

@@sanspotter hahahaha right? By the way, I did cry when we left. Need a chaperone on your next trip, let me know lol.

[@scoocie0341]

Nice video it is funny that I was on the same flight as you in both recent Hawaiian Airlines video and even saw you at the airport I am sad and mad that I didn’t recognize you.

[@sanspotter]

I need to start wearing red shoes again. I’ll be recognizable for sure! 😄

[@MrHistory269]

I live in Hawai’i and Hawaiian airlines is always going to be my favorite

[@PureAloha78]

Great video !!!!!!! I love your videos. I thought Hawaiian switched out the A330s with the A321 Neos on it’s San Diego route.

[@TheWeegie3]

Happy holidays Scott

[@sanspotter]

Happy holidays to you as well Colin!

[@thebananaman1895]

1:09 "Yes i am definitely doing this flight next year" 2020: No

[@81MercTurbo]

🤣 I laughed and said outlaid, "no you're not"

[@tylerh9242]

Great video!!! AAL offers meals in economy on DFW/ORD-HNL too ;)

[@MrMig5terious]

Living up the Hawaiian lifestyle right now. Just kidding, Hello from the Philippines Scott!

[@sanspotter]

Hey Miguel! Must be nice down there - I really need to visit the Philippines some day... 😎👍🏻

[@alexandergarland77]

Another sanspotter video!!!! The Mountainbiker is here Snacks & Redbull in hand Let's go flying!!!!!

[@sanspotter]

Woo hoo! I’d take a red bull any day over the stuff they served on this flight. 😆 Hope you’re doing well! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@alexandergarland77]

@@sanspotter doing well my friend I'm a little displaced but not having been on my bike in the week but I've got something cooking remember I told you the collaboration video Sanspotter meets The Mountainbiker!!!! Trust me I'll bring the Red Bull and the health witches that collaboration would be freaking awesome

[@robertmehring5135]

It's not premium economy, the airline doesn't even call it that instead always calling it extra comfort. The narrow seats are the give away, a quality premium economy class would have at least one seat less seat in each row as well as being separated from economy comfort/plus.

[@alexiaburton3668]

Video was super helpful! We are flying for the first time EVER and headed to Hawaii. I'm trying to purchase "Personal Item" bags for the trip but Hawaiian does NOT list their carry on dimensions making it difficult to purchase. Was wondering if you had any advice? Is there more room than other airports or less? About the same? Thsnk you in advance!!

[@alvardlt2]

Hello, do you think flying first class on an A321neo LAX to KOA worth the additional cost over economy?

[@johndornoff]

I have to wait until January for another SANspotter video? Oh that is torture, but I think I can tough it out. Maybe.

[@sanspotter]

I’ll make it an especially good one. 😆👍🏻

[@kelitia812]

I wish there is another airline coming to Am. Samoa other than the Hawaiian airline. The fare is so expensive, about 1,800 round trip tickets for one person. Well, only if you pay way ahead of time it will come down a little above 1,000.

[@kylehoenig]

Hey Scott, HA is not the only American carrier to serve free meals in coach. American and Delta both serve free meals on Transcons and select other long haul domestic routes.

[@sanspotter]

Someone else mentioned this as well - I guess I don’t fly DL and AA enough!

[@M4A1Nerve]

Scott, you should take a trip up here to lovely MSP between now and March. I think you'd love the weather up here

[@sanspotter]

Oh I’m very familiar with Minnesota winters - I have family that lives up there!

[@acelmoni2833]

Nice video I see you in 2020 merry Christmas and happy New year ps the food was awful😀😀😀

[@crookedFC]

Did the cabin feel as old as it looked Scott? I’m looking at EC for a trip from Sydney to Honolulu and just don’t want to spend the cash if a QF flight would be a wiser choice. Great video though mate.

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Daniel! It was starting to feel a bit old and worn out. I’d like to think they serve better food on international routes, so do make sure you compare it to what QF is offering before you make your choice!

[@Iambriangregory]

Maybe you should get a life 6-hour travel instead of worrying about how old something looks

[@unknowntraveller8633]

I was interested in the video as you were leaving the plane, it always amazes me just how much rubbish people throw on the floor as if it magically just goes away. Do they do it at home, I hope not.

[@sanspotter]

It’s even worse on long international flights - I feel so bad for the cleaning crews sometimes!

[@gavinhanson9213]

It does magically go away that’s what we’re paying $600 for the flight for.

[@davetissue]

I think those ashtrays have been around in most aircrafts - they aren't there to encourage people to smoke; instead they are there for the crew to safely dispose ignited cigarettes, in case of a unruly passenger, without setting the bin on fire.

[@afoodlover]

It's definitely worth stopping at the ABC store and picking up some snacks including spam musubi for the flight.

[@Jackbilecki]

ABC musubi not good if you want good kine go 7-11

[@retroflashbackdude]

I’d choose seat pitch personally cause I’m tall and need the extra legroom in front.

[@EdwardConnors]

I prefer girth tbh! But as you know, not all inches are created equal. If they're too generous with width, they'd have to delete a whole column (as opposed to a single row). I have never flown 10 across and hope I never have to!

[@sanspotter]

The awkward moment when I’m not sure if you’re talking about anatomy or seats...🤔😂😂 I agree though - 10 across would not be fun!

[@lucasarthur7574]

This video isn’t accurate. There is no “Premium Economy” on HA. Extra Comfort is not marketed as a Premium Economy product.

[@jcspotter7322]

It's how hawaiian markets the product and scott talks about it in the video

[@sanspotter]

They can call it what they want, but the fact of the matter is that it’s a “premium” economy seat with 5 extra inches of leg room.

[@ChrisGugliuzza]

It is their premium economy, they just call it Extra Comfort. who cares

[@hanj31]

Transcon flights with the big 3 have meals in economy too. But United it’s only for economy plus

[@gregoryhuntington7954]

I have the Swiss 1900 in black and red love it ,but also don’t like the Velcro strap that’s supposed to hold the iPad in place.

[@spark_6710]

Great view of the leg room with economy comfort,sorry premium seat at 6:08 !!! I am thinking about flying with Hawaiian airlines in economy comfort earlier next year from Los Angeles !! 👍👍✈️💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞

[@theemaxwilson]

“I’m definitely going to do this flight some time next year.” OOF famous last words

[@Haupialani]

My experience flying HA's premium economy to SFO sucked so bad that I cancelled my PE return trip down and got an economy seat instead. I had legroom but I couldn't recline so I had to sit straight up for 4.5 hours. Stiff neck and body, not worth the extra money for the 'extra comfort'. Next time I will research better options on other airlines. I only used HA because I live here plus I had a lot of HA miles to use.

[@DCAviation170]

Wow. I cant believe it has been over 1 year! Still think it was yesterday....

[@florents.27]

If you fly Transcontinental with Delta (Boston to Los Angeles, San Francisco or Seattle, same thing from NY and other cities) you also get a free meal in economy.

[@sanspotter]

I actually didn’t know that! Delta really is doing things right these days...

[@SteffenWang]

GIRTH AND LENGTH THX

[@sanspotter]

😮🤭😂

[@ilianalezcano2373]

I missed the take off, that’s my favorite part.

[@JackJackProductions]

Are you going to post a video on either December 24th or December 25th

[@sanspotter]

Unfortunately, nope - I’m taking a couple weeks off and I’ll be back in January. Happy holidays!

[@DeltaBravoTango]

Wow! Absolutely brilliant video again, Really loved the style and that food did not look too great haha. Although I certainly would eat it all the same! Cheers

[@Zerowayin]

last time I was on Hawaiian airlines I had that pesto pie thing and got incredibly sick afterwards lol

[@charles-vq6sd]

Have a great new year break

[@idreesali1733]

Haven't checked in yet, so still got time to change my mind😂😂😂omg.

[@sanspotter]

Something every traveler has thought at some point or another. 😆

[@flyingdentist]

Nice one Scott.I don't believe that this kind of service really worth it.

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Yannis! Good thing it was cheap I guess...I wouldn’t recommend paying a lot of money for this.

[@awaruaspirit8527]

Totally with you Scott on HAs food offering. After flying Auckland to JFK on Hawaiian, I could have easily munched on that seat cushion after the prepackaged nasties served up. Saving grace was a quick, ravenous, scoff at the food court whilst in transit at HNL. Why not offer prepaid menu upgrades like many regional french airlines (AirCalin, Air Austral etc) do? An opportunity to showcase local offerings surely. I'd happily drop more $$$s for a decent food & bev offering on long haul HA flights. HA could be a really good airline but for its food/bev and IFE offerings.

[@TravelAgentCale]

It's ALWAYS worth it! ;)

[@kzooaviation]

Nice one

[@sanspotter]

Thanks man!

[@cms1474]

Hey do you know the name of the second song

[@timothymacintyre2158]

G vs L, now who doesn't like sexual innuendo in flight review, keep up the good work. Tim from Sydney

[@craigwillis3372]

Girth vs Length...you had me worried for a while !! The food looked and probably tasted awful. Premium economy is all about the seat and the leg room but should also offer a better class of food and wine !! Cost cutting by the look of things. Always enjoy your reviews mate and thanks again !!

[@mkohlstrand02]

Scott: "And I'm really excited what 2020 will bring!" Me: Covid

[@TheHaloRed]

The best part of Extra Comfort is the Zone 3 boarding.

[@simgingergirl]

I might fly premium economy to London from DFW. I have a terrible back and am worried. The recline is the most important thing to me.

[@Haupialani]

I now base my flights on how much the seats recline because of my back. I won't ever fly economy again so for PE seats I have to watch a bunch of KZbin videos on which airline has the best PE seats and I read Flyertalk posts as the people at that site fly alot. Or I try to see if I can afford business class but flying to Europe from Hawaii is always pricey. I'd rather spend a little more money to save my back.

[@a.gproductions_official]

Did You Know? Hawaiian Airlines Is The Only Airline That Has BETTER Entertainment In Economy Than First Class

[@warszawianek]

How to kill sanspotter with kindness: Make thousands of alternative accounts and sign up as a first-class member to blow up his phone with notifications

[@Loveinthe808]

unfortunately the 330 doesn't fly from HNL to SJC. You get the 321 and I've flown 1st class and it wasn't the same standard as the 330. Not worth ubering from SFO to Sunnyvale just to fly the 330.

[@paulotamburini7601]

I can’t speak for all airlines and aircrafts, but I’m a cabin crew form Latam Brazil and all our planes have ash trays haha :D

[@luiiiiiclor]

Like the cap! Where did you get it?

[@sanspotter]

Thanks! Got it from here: bit.ly/2PAwRN2 👍🏻

[@norcal_jetsetter8082]

Nooooo! I have to wait until next year for a video!😩

[@ikiruyamamoto1050]

I appreciate the video, but unless you're tall the extra 5 inches in length wouldn't be worth it (unless the cost is very small). The biggest complaint of most people are shrinking seat widths and fatter passengers. Although, maybe it wasn't an accident there was an empty seat next to you. Perhaps, regular economy/coach fills up well before an option that costs more...thus the opportunity for less than full capacity on those seats.

[@stitch-xx2oo]

Nice video. Has Southwest started flights between San and PHNL?

[@alexbarsily7759]

stitch16261 they will in april

[@stitch-xx2oo]

@@alexbarsily7759 . T hanks and Aloha!!!

[@clausstimpfig3803]

thats the worst us carrier no Food

[@MomentsInTheSky]

Ah the length v girth debate 😁

[@sanspotter]

THANK YOU for not stating your preference. 😂😂

[@karenbarrett3044]

What’s the best seat for island view when heading to Oahu?

[@sanspotter]

Left side usually - you’ll get a pretty good view of Waikiki on the way in.

[@karenbarrett3044]

@@sanspotter thank you! 😊

[@clausstimpfig3803]

Dear Scott I do suggest that the both of us take over Hawaiian Airlines. You behind the curtain as the big "egg head"...….Me, the cabin Crew Manager plus Catering Manager.....I think we could work something out.. Happy x-mas and all the best for 2020 to you

[@sanspotter]

“Ladies and gentlemen, this is your egg head speaking...” 😆👍🏻 I like the sound of that! I’m still waiting on securing the $500 billion loan to launch the airline, but as soon as it comes in, get ready to fly. 😄 Merry Christmas!

[@tyrapereira9607]

Have you flown premium economy on Air NZ? Will give HA a run for their money.

[@sanspotter]

Haven’t done that yet. Hopefully soon!

[@Railviation]

This was a great video! Sucks they're switching to another A321neo... But hey maybe they'll upgrade the snacks, economy class and the other stuff =D

[@sanspotter]

Thanks! Yeah, I hope that was not the last time I’ll ever be on an HA A330 in and out of SAN. Fingers crossed they’ll bring them back eventually (or at least give us better food 😆).

[@noahh90]

Can’t wait to be sitting in those misaligned window seats both ways in April. 🤦🏻‍♂️ At least I have a window on the 30 minute island hopper…

[@samsstudio6156]

"yes, I'm gonna do this flight next year" This definitely didn't aged well

[@ryankenyon5010]

When home is San Diego, where I have been known to flee Nebraska to in January, you get no sympathy.😉

[@sanspotter]

But it’s cold here! Like 59 degrees!! 😵😆

[@FlyersAviation]

@@sanspotter Where I live in San Diego County it drops to 40 F brrr

[@repairman99]

Be glad they even served food. Try United from EWR to HNL. No free food.

[@mrenergykills]

Did you have to pay for the movies in premium economy

[@sanspotter]

Nope - all free.

[@mrenergykills]

SANspotter sweet thank you

[@peterrodby2786]

It's not Hahnalulu, its Hohnolulu! Will someone get it right?

[@breakingmad2645]

Peter Rodby Haoles Thats why

[@ChrisGugliuzza]

Hawaii is always a good idea

[@Kittycat822]

I just flew Hawaiian and was totally disappointed at the meal. Not expecting it to be that bad….that so called sandwich….I didn’t pack a lunch like I normally do. I did however pack food on my return flight. The bathrooms stunk so bad. I didn’t like having to go to the rear of the plane to get an additional drink given their high prices. I’ll stick with Alaska in the future.

[@Bobrogers99]

The extra cost is for extra legroom. Period. What you were served to eat does not qualify as a "hot meal". At best, it was an "enhanced snack" and not necessarily edible. A nice, thick (unheated) deli sandwich or sub would cost them maybe five bucks and be much more appreciated.

[@sadflandnav]

Hey SANspotter, has anyone ever tried to walk off with your camera when filming the background shots, thanks for sharing.See you do learn things from loo reviews.

[@sanspotter]

Haha, yeah...the loo reviews ARE beneficial. 😄 And nope - nobody has ever tried to walk off with my camera...yet. Seeing Casey Neistat doing “walk away” shots in extremely busy places (with extremely expensive camera gear) without incident gives me the confidence I need to get creative sometimes. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@irishque]

why chose when u can get both girth and length..LOL!

[@sanspotter]

🤦🏼‍♂️😂

[@greatairline8693]

Hello nice to me to you! I am, me too. ride on ANA !!

[@sanspotter]

Hi! 👋🏻 Yes, I’m hoping to get a ride on that ANA A380 next year! 👍🏻

[@brilliantbutblue]

New Sub here. Loving your trip reports and sense of humour to go with it. Have a wonderful Christmas, heres to an awesome 2020 for all. Merry Christmas from Melbourne Australia.🎅🎁

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Blue! Merry Christmas to you as well! 🎅🏻🎄

[@kaysyt9966]

I'm from oahu and this is not accurate bc the airlines an the airport in Honolulu oahu is different

[@ChrisGugliuzza]

?

[@joonhan7365]

I flew to hawaiian A321 neo to maui there service are excellent but you're right that chicken pesto pie is very salty and disgusting but my son ate 3 of them lol!!

[@truckertim2958]

Hey TruckStop food is delicious.😂😂

[@deetag7621]

This is premium economy? Are you for real? I'm so glad I watched this before I wasted my money. Is it possible to take Qatar or Emirates to Hawaii? Cause they know premium economy.

[@martinmayfield1932]

I joke and call these flights the "Sad Flight" . Returning from places like Hawaii, Cabo, Cancun or Tahiti.

[@maximusjonathas891]

7:00 I’m not sure about that

[@sanspotter]

Someone else mentioned that DL is doing it on some transcon routes. I was definitely wrong!

[@maximusjonathas891]

SANspotter Yeah I flew PDX-JFK over thanksgiving and I got what I considered to be a “full meal”

[@herenow6953]

Lol! Girth v width 😵🤣 us ladies know the answer but we aren’t telling! Fab as always - Happy Christmas and I’m already looking forward to seeing more in 2020 🎄🎉🥂👍

[@sanspotter]

Thanks for keeping us in the dark! 😄 Anyway, glad you enjoyed the video - and merry Christmas to you as well! 🎅🏻🎄

[@JeffBourke]

it is NOT worth it. Width is the important part. If you pay extra for extra seat pitch you will always be sitting next to other tall / big people who take up more width and make you uncomfortable. it is actually WORSE that economy seating.

[@rollingtroll]

5:32 Why is something beaming IR at you? That food looks horrible. And I don't say that very often. But hey, crisps, drinks, flight, ashtrays. Should be good. See you next year, Scott. Thanks for entertaining me throughout 2019, and beyoooooond.

[@sanspotter]

Oh that’s just probably some government face-scanning device harvesting data or something. Nothing to worry about. 😆 Anyway, glad I was able to entertain you this year. Here’s to an awesome 2020! 🍻

[@rollingtroll]

@@sanspotter ScottSpotter, that's what it is. 2020, here we come! First flight is already booked for me, first 50 for you? Enjoy!

[@ryy4n_]

The Rolling Troll Wait have you ever been on Hawaiian?

[@rollingtroll]

@@ryy4n_ hah, no. Not a flight to Hawaii. Just a flight booked, haha. Why?