संवाद # 167: Savarkar और Ambedkar एक दूसरे के पूरक हैं | Priyank Chauhan

[@user-gk1xc1jl7v]

इस समय 25 से 35 वर्ष के युवा सावरकर जी अम्बेडकर जी सुभाष जी और अनाम क्रांतिकारियों के बारे में काफी अधिक पढ़ रहे हैं यह भारत के भविष्य के लिए बहुत अच्छा है।

[@Anup_BHU]

इंटरव्यू देने वाले और इंटरव्यू लेनेवाले....दोनों बहुत ही पढे़ लिखे बुद्धिमान व्यक्ति हैं बहुत सारा प्यार ❤❤ जय हिंद

[@dvikauglaumishrauca]

Ye jabardast aadmi banega aage jake. Super knowledge.

[@Athirahindustani]

So glad youngsters have taken interest in Savarkarji . Bless you son . Very impressive 🙏🏽

[@curiouscynic4357]

Ambedkar was clearly a visionary and had shown disagreement with divisions of the nation based on religion and caste. Sarwarkar showed massive insight into how some 10000 years of heritage was systematically being undermined despite it having most progressive and earth breaking ideas that are way ahead of the rest of the rest.

[@ram_ram_jayshreeRam]

पर आज के जुटे भीम वादी आरक्षण को देश से बड़ा मान रहे है😮 देश रहे या ना रहे आरक्षण रहना चाहिए 😢

[@gauraangsonkar]

😂 ek baar 22 pratijna padlo Ambedkar ki, Division based on caste and religion pata chal jayega

[@curiouscynic4357]

@gauraangsonkar Just checked it. The man was not perfect and had misconception about Buddhism, which is part of Sanatan Dharma. Overall, considering the huge prejudicial period, it is understandable. His feeling about ALL man to be equal contradicts what he says about Brahmins. Let us pick the best of these minds. Even Gandhiji and Nehru had a huge amount of ignorance about the heritage of India while they were hugely preoccupied with innumerable issued with a nation living in grinding poverty and illiteracy. Vandemataram.

[@gauraangsonkar]

@@curiouscynic4357 🤦🏻‍♂️ Arre aapko unn logo ko consider karna hi kyo hai, Chale gaye jaane do, Ambedkar Gandhi Nehruyahi 4-5 log te kya? MC Rajah, Narayan Guru, Lala Lajpat Rai, Swami Shradhanand Veer Savarkar aur bhi Bahut log hai. Ambedkar ek Jati ke neta te, unko aaj Desh ka neta bana ke project kiya jaa raha hai, mere Anusaar Ambedkar Poore SC ke community ke bhi neta nahi te, aur na ban paaye. Ambedkar bolte hai Gandhi ki Image Congress ne banai hai chutti de de kar 1955 September bbc ke interview me, vaise hi aaj Ambedkar ki image banane ka prayaas ho raha vaise to 1990 se ho raha hai. larger than life image

[@Nair_]

@@curiouscynic4357you are drunk while sitting on the fence. Taking the best amongst men and ignoring the wrongs done by them, will drive your identity to dust and burn your vivek into ashes. People like you will look at Ravan and quote his bhakti and ignore the paap which led to his demise at the hands of Maryada Purushottam.

[@curiouscynic4357]

यह समझना जरूरी है की RSS और BJP का हिन्दुत्व डेफिनिशन ऐक evolving प्रोसेस है । सावरकर ने ऐक बहुत सोच समझ कर रास्ता बटाया जो rigid नहीं है। उसकी सोच भारत का इतिहास और संस्कृति से जोड़ी है। Bharti Culture is NOT static.

[@sanjeevsharma-jh8jo]

Dr Ambedkar through his pragmatism established Nationalism against Nehru’s idealism of Nationalism and collaborated too. Dr Ambedkar’s affirmative action got genuine support from Nehru and his successors. Dr Ambedkar was critical of continuity of affirmative actions too which gives him far superior status and thinker and nation builders.

[@maheshvashikar8415]

सावरकर ideas really great हिंदुत्व .

[@IamWokephobic]

Fortunately, I have started reading the Savarkar ji book - My Transportation of Life. Just finished The Indian war of Independence 1857 by Veer Savarkar. Earlier, I read BR Ambedkar's Annihilation of Caste and India's Partition -Pakistan. What a Fresh Conversation on Savarkar ji and Ambedkarji. Personally, I found this conversation Very Insightful and Very Engaging and Needed for me. So Many things were already going on in my mind for months. Many things got a new perspective. Thanks for this session.

[@rohitftp]

This channel must grow... Better than TRS and ranveer... Undissolved intellectuals. 🙏🏻🙏🏻vaad no vivaad 🙏🏻

[@sachindev0072002]

Vaad is a great learning platform. Wonderful discussion on Savarkar and Ambedkar together.

[@BotswanaThabo]

One of the best podcasts ever! Everyone should watch this to get clarity on the contemporary political thoughts prevalent in India.

[@Nair_]

The comments consist of 3 types of people : 1. One trying to mix salt and sugar into milk and trying to drink it. 2. Trying to sell Ambedkar to Hondus who neither know what he has written in 22 vows, nor the damage he has done to the true Hinduu minority class called "General category" 3. Looking to Savarkar for all the answers , in a post partition world where political wing of islam is active, multiple wars have been fought with the enemy and minority community has made NO attempts to hide their plan for the future.( case in point PFI 2047 ).

[@hemachauhan2594]

बहुत ही सुन्दर प्रस्तुति दी गई

[@ajaysaini69]

After a very long time, got an opportunity to hear a very serious n unbiased discussion about two great personalities. Such discussions could be a great start point for those who want to know n study about the history n historical personalities. Great efforts, keep it up 👍 one request, pl. Start providing a brief intro of the guest before starting the discussion.

[@TheEternalDust]

one of the best podcast..great topic

[@shubhamkamboj605]

One of the best podcast ever. Salute 🫡

[@user-ju9ii1hf3v]

Respect for baba saheb and swatantrata veer saheb

[@user-th8dq1ev2l]

Pls get Priyanka more on the podcast.Such young people that too from JNU are required a lot to be brought in mainstream

[@gururajarao4759]

An intellectual, matured dialogue between two youngsters is a treat. Wish them success

[@truptishelke-usapkar3995]

I appreciate this young mind, listening to you carefully. what a sense to understand the psychology of politics instead of arguing.

[@banerjee3]

Savarkar and Ambedkar criticised Gandhi and gave counter ideologies, this is true. But at the same time the man who defeated Gandhi was Subhas Bose. Unfortunately today's politics experts ignores Bose during talking about politics and freedom struggle.

[@sonuosingh]

में 2047 तक 100000 सावरकर बनते हुए देखना चाहता हूं 💪 भारत माता कि जय 🙏

[@tatti397]

मैं यहाँ बाबासाहब के नाम पर आया हूँ, जय भीम!!

[@thewittiewolf]

Great podcast Arihant bhai, also Priyank is the Man.

[@sunilfauji]

Greatest son of Maa Bharti was undoubtedly Savarkar ji

[@fredsindhiespanol8133]

Please bring this guy again. Like i never heard something like this. This opened my mind to completely new perspective.

[@smitkadu5504]

Jai Hind Jai Bharat 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳❤️❤️❤️

[@rajeevstube]

One of the best analysis

[@rajeshshukla15]

योगी अरविंद ने कहा है कि सनातन धर्म ही राष्ट्र है

[@sujalgamerz8836]

Very nice beta ❤❤❤

[@saurabhmaurya5564]

After long time found a Very deep and knowledgeful content. दोनों को साधुवाद |

[@rajeshkshirsagar3904]

Hindutva is a reference to idea of swaraj laid by CH. Shivaji Maharaj

[@namansinghnegi8931]

Arihant ji ye bahut hi interesting samvaad tha...

[@Doctalkin]

Good discussion and a new perspective. Respect for speaker’s depth of reading and analysis of two stalwarts and thought leaders of Indian freedom struggle.

[@abhayrawat1598]

Great Video

[@sonalkumar4179]

❤👍

[@hemachauhan2594]

Very nice

[@Hindu-vn7bv]

Jai Hindurastram 🚩🔥

[@curiouscynic4357]

Very interesting discussion. 👌

[@monkeymindat]

In simple true word's " India has democracy because of Sanatan Dharma".

[@vikrantsingh2012]

बहुत ही ज़बरदस्त ❤

[@user-gk1xc1jl7v]

सावरकर जी की छुआछूत के प्रति खुली स्वीकृति एक अच्छा कदम था जो उन्हें अम्बेडकर जी के नजदीक लाता है।

[@ishumukhi702]

भाई तुम भी जागरूक हो बहुत, मैने तुम्हारे कॉमेंट पढ़े हैं, कहां से हो ?

[@user-gk1xc1jl7v]

@@ishumukhi702 उत्तरप्रदेश और आप

[@ishumukhi702]

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[@ishumukhi702]

@@user-gk1xc1jl7v मैं भी वीरों की धरती उत्तर प्रदेश से हूं भाई, मैंने पहले भी तुम्हारे कॉमेंट्स पढ़े हैं, तुम ही थे न जो zee channel पर भी सावरकर जी के लिए fight कर रहा था?

[@user-gk1xc1jl7v]

@@ishumukhi702 हो सकता है

[@cp_sparrow]

Jai baba saheb jai veer

[@silent_traveller7]

Good talk!!

[@janmejay_in]

Finally I'm not alone who think like this! It was satisfyin to saw this discourse on combined speculation of society adjacent with political , historical and philosophical angle. We need more Like Priyank ❤

[@Abhishek-nj6rf]

i cannot believe this is happening. thanks, you vaad for doing it.

[@surendergupta7123]

Watch "Veer Savarkar" movie with your family, friends. It is Amazing.🙏👌👌👍

[@rohitftp]

I have watched... Its a gem🙏🏻

[@Jay-8252]

Soch mein dalne wali movie hai bhai...❤❤bahot hi badiya hai movie randeep hunda ne bahot mehnat Li Hain is mein

[@dumdum-eo3kr]

Q: Why should we care for a strong and independent India? A: Because our ancestors shed blood in its defence and our Gods walked this land Q: So you are saying you identify with your ancestors and Gods? Thats pretty regressive of you. A: Yes, I identify with my ancestors and Gods. Q: In what way do you identify with them? A: By stewarding the culture of my ancestors and doing the will of the Gods Q: Ok. So you are saying you care for your culture and your religion? A: Yes. Q: What culture and religion would that be? A: Hinduism and Sanatana Dharma of course. Q: You are saying there is no strong and independent India without an appreciation for Hinduism and Santana Dharma? A: That is correct Q: What do say to people who talk about Hindutva and India without once mentioning the ancestors or the Gods? A: I would invite them to step away from their political power-centric view of the world and recognize the source of their love for this land. There is no Hindutva without Hinduism and no India without Bharat. And what Hinduism and Bharat are is clear to any true Hindu.

[@swapnilredekar1321]

Greatness of India is not in its past, but in its future.

[@hemachauhan2594]

Very good thinking

[@vrishtimishra7193]

Aap dono ka bahut bahut dhanyawaad.

[@yogeshapte8713]

Savarkar-Ambedkar-Subhash-Hedgewar

[@sanjeevsharma-jh8jo]

सी एए एक यथार्थवादी दृष्टिकोण है। जिसका विचार अम्बेडकर जी के बंधुत्व के विचार के अनुरूप प्रतीत होता है। यह यथार्थवादी आवश्यकता के अनुसार है।

[@ChetanOT]

Waoo!! What an amazing discussion! Thank you Arihant!!

[@libshastra]

Pitr does not mean Father but it means ancestor or Forefather. I'm pretty sure Savarkar understood it in those terms.

[@namansinghnegi8931]

Haanji...Matrabhoomi is motherland and Pitrabhoomi is fatherland...and Savarkar understood this

[@varunkhugshal9049]

When he is says political sense when savarkar says pitr, he refers to forefather but also theirs a sense of masculinity with which he approaches in political sphere, in poetry he shows he feminine and softer side, which orator mentioned a motherly refrence to nation

[@indiannationalfirst8286]

Veer savarkar amar rahe,,,,,,,,,,,❤❤❤

[@sanjeevsharma-jh8jo]

सावरकर भक्ति की बजाय नव निर्माण के चिंतन की आवश्यकता है। उनके श्याम- श्वेत के मध्य ही भविष्य के मार्ग का निर्माण हो सकता है। बुद्ध, महावीर और नानक के बिना कोई भविष्य का चिंतन समकालीन नहीं होगा।

[@1st_cypher]

❤

[@Sunnyblueresonant]

Great podcast

[@Noname-oq9mk]

Outstanding podcast

[@sachinsgiri]

Chauhan's shrit is really awesome

[@66sbjaygoti80]

Great discussion

[@PritiKumari-cg9co]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤soo proud bhiya

[@fredsindhiespanol8133]

Bro, how he talks at this young age, wow, i am impressed

[@curiouscynic4357]

There should be a well expressed idea of nationhood, taking writings of Sarvarkar, Golwalkar, and Ambedkar. The central belief HAS to embrace Sanatana Dharma which has Jainism. Buddhism, Sikhism and Hinduism. Clearly, there is no place for manipulative or coerced propagation of religion as inherrently it has built in intolerance that is anathema to Sanatan Dharma. If they expunge these negative aspects, then they are likely to make a better society.

[@singhnaveen5694]

Do seperate podcast on relationship between hinduism and making of indian nation

[@AnjuSingh-ov2qr]

Please make a video on the book the beautiful tree by historian Dharampal ji it's about indigenous Indian education system and dalit and women education system and because of casteism people defame and leave Hinduism please sir 😢😢😢

[@ShubhamPandey-jk9gw]

Untill Dalits and women join hindutva , the project will always remain incomplete . Dalits have started joining in some way next are girls .

[@dravinashkadam575]

What a word " prophet of indian freedom"

[@mrityunjaypatel602]

सावरकर और अंबेडकर को एक साथ देखना दिलचस्प है

[@mukesh4984]

Mind-blowing thought. Ever heard this point of view from anyone on social media. Jnu may aise bhi students hotya hai?

[@vinayrathee5998]

please do podcast with Jsaideepak

[@greenocean9039]

Hindutva is really a great ideology❤ people must read savarkar.

[@vladimirprotein1602]

My People, my culture, my right to my dignity. ~Neo Hindutva ❤

[@Shyamkumar-bw9kw]

अद्भुत भाई ❤❤❤

[@RamnarayanChoudhary-io1un]

Bahut badhiya bhai Rajasthani history par banao pls

[@NandanDhopla]

Very nice

[@aryandahiya8506]

Arihant bhai haryana ke religious beliefs ki history par baat kijiye humne humesha t suna h bado se ki pehle hum itne dharmik ya pooja path wale nhi hote the parantu fir bhi apne bhot se local religious traditions dekhne ko milte hn , to 2no baato mein contrast jhalakta h RAM RAM JAI HIND

[@rakshithyadav3967]

Great podcast. Need more of these

[@rajendrameena150]

Yaar is channel ki reach topic ke hisaab se bahut kam hai....😢

[@ShubhendraSingh2808]

Nice shirt Priyannk 😊

[@manassurya2019]

I knew I wasn't crazy when I saw the parallels between Ambedkar and Savarkar years ago. There's a huge overlap between both their visions for the country and views on caste.

[@NikkuBodh]

1) “If Hindu Raj does become a fact, it will, no doubt be the greatest calamity for this country. No matter what the Hindus say, Hinduism is a menace to liberty, equality and fraternity. It is incompatible with democracy. Hindu Raj must be prevented at any cost.” 2) “Hindu society as such does not exist. It is only a collection of castes. Each caste is conscious of its existence. Its survival is the be-all and end-all of its existence. Castes do not even form a federation. A caste has no feeling that it is affiliated to other castes, except when there is a Hindu-Muslim riot. On all other occasions, each caste endeavours to segregate itself and to distinguish itself from other castes.”- Dr. B R AMBEDKAR

[@gauraangsonkar]

@@NikkuBodh 😂😂😂 And you don't find contradiction in both statement, In "Pakistan and partition of India" Ambedkar was saying hindu raj is Calamity, and asking for full transfer of population during partition, One will form Muslim nation and another will form "Hindu" Raj or Nation of different Castes. And in next statement Ambedkar is saying, Their is no such thing as Hindu, these are just different caste groups which only Unites during Hindu Muslim Riots, This state is probably given during the time when he was asking for Seperate electorate for "Depressed classes" Trying to establish the narrative that Hindu is not religion, "Depressed classes" is seperate nation as Muslim is seperate nation from "Hindus", and criticised Gandhi for saying Depressed classes are not seperated from Hindus, and Addressed every Depressed class leader as Gandhi's Stooge who support this idea of Hindus as one Nationality. So Which Hindu Raj he was Criticising? Gandhi's Hindu Raj (one nationality) or his Hindu Raj of different nationalities (caste)

[@JohnNobody_]

I wish this guy had read ambedkar's thoughts on Savarkar.

[@lalitmulay2851]

Kindly bring Akshay Jog from Mumbai , who will give a great explaination on Savarkarji .

[@ShubhamPandey-jk9gw]

Arihant sir , plzz make a podcast on the role of women in hindutva movement .

[@sanjeevsharma-jh8jo]

Without addressing the individual aspirations you can not address aspirations of the nation. Assimilation of ideas towards making a strong industrialised society is the only goal which would satisfy the individuals, communities and nation as a whole.

[@gauraangsonkar]

Ambedkar Konse Freedom Struggle me aa gaye? ye to joke jaise hogaya, Fir to Britain ke role ko bhi nahi bhulna chahiye India ke freedom Struggle me.

[@SonofIndia1999]

Ambedkar is nationalist you can watch his video on india as a country and india as a union of state Power structure between centre government and state

[@SonofIndia1999]

Click on the link and listen whole speech not interview on power structure of india

[@gauraangsonkar]

@@SonofIndia1999 ek baar "Transfer Of Power" Volume 7 page 144-147 tak Padlo Ambedkar ka submission. koi link nahi hai Video ka title bata do dekh lenge.

[@SonofIndia1999]

@@gauraangsonkar 1946 dr ambedkar constitutional assembly speech Channel my gov india

[@gauraangsonkar]

@@SonofIndia1999 dekh rakhi hai usme aise kya hai? Usme kya Nationalism ya Freedom Struggle dikh gaya?

[@noone6-7]

👌👌🔥👍🙏

[@rakshithyadav3967]

What is the name of the study circle? How to join it?

[@psroutine7132]

Kirvanto vishwa aryam- Vedas Make the whole world Arya i.e Shrestha

[@ZEE-PM]

शायद इसे ही ब्राह्मणवाद कहते है क्योंकि इनका कहना है की जाति रहनी चाहिए लेकिन जातिवाद नहीं 😂 शायद ये लोग मूल सिद्धांत को ही भूल जाते की जन्म और मृत्यु में जो संबंध है वही संबंध जाति और जातिवाद में भी है। इसलिए सभी दलित भाइयों को समझना चाहिए क्योंकि इनकी वाणी में साफ झलकता है की इनकी ग्रंथों में जो जातिवादी श्लोक है वो अपना विकराल रूप कभी भी धारण कर सकती है। इसलिए इनका सादा हल है की बौद्ध धर्म अपना लें सारा झंझट ही समाप्त। बौद्ध धर्म क्यों न अपनाए ये भी तो भारत का एक अटूट हिस्सा है🎉🎉🎉

[@greenocean9039]

Inhone kab kaha ki jati rehni chahiye??? Jati ki identity hindu identity k virudh hai. Annihilation of caste ki book nhi dikhi kya waha pe? Zabardasti kuch bhi bolte ho. Stop misleading people.

[@fireStorm070]

The reason Hindutva is not working with the Dalits is that Hindutva is a social-ritual dead end because of hindu vertical Diversity. Hindutva is merely an initial attractive force for the Dalits where their thirst to get a normal status within hindu society is quenched atleast this is what they hope for, but the bubble breaks when they start interacting with the other hindus which are heavily fed by social conscience which is based on Purity and pollution which creates a rank, which creates vertical identity. Newers generations of SCs might initially get attracted to hindutva but they will always find the hindu society uncomfortable for them because a newer rank identity now called Dalit Identity, will always exist under a pan Hindu society as an unofficial fifth varna, no matter how much they would deny. I think Navayana failed simply because Dr. Ambedkar underestimated Caste with other Indian religions including Buddhism. Dr. Ambedkar should have chosen a complete foreign religion to escape vertical stratification by joining a horizontal one. Choosing Christianity would have done much better in an untouchable's conscience. But now Its a forever burden on Dalits to always remain away from the other hindu society simply because the vertical Identity and diversity cannt be rolled back to where it all began.

[@greenocean9039]

Ambedkar was a nationalist person so choosing christianity was against his 'love for India'. As ambedkar said christianity and islam both religions denationalizes a person. The connection with the motherland India is destroyed.

[@GautamBuddhaSiddarth]

Watch the movie of Randeep Hooda (Swatantrya Veer Savarkar)Pls. Must watch movie.

[@rajeshshukla15]

आप विद्वान हैं किंतु आपको धर्म और religion के मध्य जो भारी अंतर है नहीं पता है धर्म religion नहीं होता है

[@MS-ov9sv]

Hmm....this needs to thought through.....All religions have sects....its just that they dont criticize themselves and never openly.....Idea of nation as 1 giant homogenous entity is western....different identities owing allegiance to few main umbrella ideas is also a nation and that is what we have been and are

[@Mrbombastic614]

You should have also talked about Reservations . Hope next time u cover this

[@saffronist5908]

Savarkar's death is very similar to Jain practice of Sallekhana.

[@sanjeevsharma-jh8jo]

Dr Ambedkar demolished Hindutva completely by converted himself as a Buddhist. Thus Buddhism takes over the Bhramnical Hinduism as inappropriate thinking and way of life. Riddles in Hinduism thus get addressed by Dr Ambedkar which Savarkar ji kept quite like Gandhi ji.

[@rutvikrs]

How did Ambedkar deal with Hindutva when they first came to power only in the late 90's? Mahasabha wasn't Hindutva.

[@rakshithyadav3967]

Ambedkar failed to remove caste from Hinduism so he chose to leave Hinduism. But Hindutva is bringing casteless society at least trying and is successful in some aspects.

[@Athirahindustani]

But took his brahmin teacher’ name, narried a brahmin 🤣 But he did warn against a certain desert cult. Btw, Buddha himself made only brahmins as priests initially then added kshatriyas nd never low castes . So much for casteless buddhism 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@greenocean9039]

Ambedkar didnt demolished hindutva instead he did believed that reforms in hinduism is possible but it is not he who can do it. He did admkt this is very very difficult but if someone will reform hindu society then he complety has ambedkar's support. Savarkar who brought hindutva was very much active in fighting for equal rights for dalits.

[@SunnyKumar-fy4st]

Definitely india by savarkar ideology u mean four Varna ( bhramin , kshatriya, vaisya , sudra ) just remember 80% of India population belong to backward and dalit whose ancestors have seen discrimination, untouchability, etc etc so don't even think abt hindu rastra

[@yogeshkalantre4907]

You obviously haven't read Savarkar. He was vehemently against caste system and wanted to irradicate caste identity so that all Hindus can come together as one.

[@Athirahindustani]

Remove ur tinted glass nd see with ur eyes. Savarkar was the first to start a temple for every caste . He himself was an atheist but was a staunch natiobalist 🙏🏽

[@greenocean9039]

Have you ever read savarkar?? Did u even watch this podcast?? Hindutva fights for casteless hindu society. Remove your tinted glass first. Go and Read his books.