Sanwa JLF User Tries Korean Lever (IST Alpha N Review)

[@3rd_Degree_Burns]

I don't know if anyone else has commented about this but your battop issue may be that you haven't tightened it on the bottom of the lever. Usually with K-levers there's a groove on the bottom of the actual shaft that you use a flathead screwdriver to really tighten it down. you gotta use the screwdriver to turn it one way while using your hand at the battop to tighten it the other. In my experience, it won't come off after unless you un-tighten it the same way. I had to do that with my Alpha N and Knee lever.

[@SunnyDaking_]

Tbh if you want a Korean lever that has a gate then the 2 best levers would be Knee lever Neo Or Crown/Samducksa shinsun 2D/3D lever

[@Kof2002dz]

crown is 🔥🔥🔥 on 2D games i confirm

[@funkrates4778]

if the corners are harder to find on your Alpha N, what you could try is to increase the actuator size. That's a very easy way to help with finding corners. However, that being said, there's nothing wrong with a JLF. They're great. And after personally trying a ton of arcade levers, I've concluded that the best arcade lever is the one that you're used to using. That will always be the best lever to use.

[@RyzingSol]

When I switched from JLF to Korean lever, it was magical. 😌

[@leperique]

I just got mine a month ago. This may be the very first video (In english) about the Alpha N on youtube! First of all thank you for the video. This lever comes with Omron switches which are amazing since they are VERY soft and responsive, that helps a lot if you play 2D games. I tried some Gersung switches on it, just to test the feel and i really liked that back and forward dash was very easy and natural with the Gersung. Overall is a matter of preference, but i feel like the Omron switches are better as a "Jack of all trades" and i will continue using those. BTW, i never had an issue with the battop unscrewing. Bad luck man!

[@roycearmani5760]

Nice vid. Your movement looks so much smoother in that alpha N

[@alvinkim1305]

Thanks for the handcam for the JLF. I plan on only using the JLF stock because that's how the OGs played in the arcades back in the day. Just like Ryan Hart. He had the same attitude as me.

[@funkrates4778]

@@alvinkim1305 In Japan. They used the JLF. In the states they used Happ levers.

[@MDSoulTV]

Oh snaps I made someone video!!! I am the black guy that did that knee lever video 😊

[@SunnyDaking_]

MOM GET THE CAMERA! 😂

[@MDSoulTV]

@@SunnyDaking_ and she did

[@rainmaker6482]

Lol

[@Xtremegameing-sk1es]

They are built for that game. So when it comes to those characters , it makes a big difference

[@johanseth3277]

My crown newhelpme V2 delivered 4 days ago and it was worth the purchase cause I can confidently do wavedashes on player 1. It'll take me more time to master the K Lever and so do you You can give it more time to have the feel of the K Lever.

[@ItsKenpachiKun]

I have the IST ALPHA 49S, and it was pretty difficult for me to use. I couldn't find the diagonals (keep in mind, im not someone who has had a ton of arcade stick experience.) The Knee Lever NEO is a nice mix between korean and japanese lever.

[@julienFPSSS]

As a long time Tekken player and a long time Korean lever user, Korean levers are superior to Japanese because of how rough you can be for speed in execution of all inputs. My problem with the JLF is that whenever I try to wavedash or backdash on either side I end up accidentally jumping because I'm trying to execute the in put super fast. The other pro of Korean levers is that the gromet allows you to return to neutral faster so you can keep inputting wavedashes and backdashes faster. I use the Crown Helpme 309 lever with the full collar and I can feel the difference in execution when it comes to the feel of the levers that don't have the full collar. The full collar of Korean levers have a wider range of motion compared to ones without it, so a stiffer gromet is needed to get the same feeling. There are definitely pros and cons to both levers, but it all boils down to personal preference and what you're comfortable playing with.

[@imangolix7235]

@@julienFPSSS i 100% agree that korean levers are better. Even if i do prefer the JLF, i just play better on the korean lever in most aspects of the game such as blocking, sidestepping, and micro dashes. Im curious about full collars and low collars. However, i do not have the commitment to drill a hole to my stick. The main reason why i went with an Alpha series lever is because of its flat collar for ease of compatibility. I wonder if there is a japanese lever out there that has the same return to neutral speed as a korean lever, that would probably be my end game.

[@Yato-im5qj]

@@imangolix7235do u stream?

[@imangolix7235]

@@Yato-im5qj only sometimes becuz my pc is ass

[@funkrates4778]

You can still BD cancel and everything else on Japanese sticks. It’s not that big of a deal. The best Kazuya player in the world uses a Japanese lever. The great thing about the JLF is how customizable it is. Sooooo many options. I also love seimitsus. Wonderful levers but not as customizable as JLF’s and don’t fit in all cases.

[@joshuapacman]

IST is notorious for having shotty Bat top quality I would recomend getting ether a qanba prism battop or and aluminum battop from arcade shock since those are countersunk and will let you play at the right Hight

[@chrispytk]

you can always get some threadlocker from walmart or any hardware store and that bat top will never move again

[@Xerxes126]

W SMT music

[@imangolix7235]

SMT BEST MUSIC/BEST GAME

[@whathitwonder4037]

The gasp sent me 😂

[@mkt-7]

After a few weeks adjusting to the stick, movement will feel quicker and snappier. Returning to neutral is so much faster with klevers. What grommet do you use? I used the knee grommet (softest 25st) and changed to the blue one. It feels much rougher when moving the stick slowly. The white one is buttery smooth

[@imangolix7235]

i am using the stock 35a grommet

[@Adam_StefaniakSaltea_Moonspell]

What IST Tension did you decide on? I ask because there seem to be several, and I have no idea which one should I choose. Thanks for the feedback - good video! Edit: I use too play Tekken and other Fgs on Arcades and the Lever was stiff, so when I got the SF5 Pro Arcade Stick I felt incapacitated because I could execute moves properly with how loose the lever is.

[@imangolix7235]

Hello! I use the stock grommet it came with which is the IST 35A tension grommet.

[@Boro87]

The tension is low compared to many levers, the body of the lever influences the tension aswell

[@Boro87]

Just screw the battop in really really hard, sometimes you need to push trough a piece of bad thread

[@PrinceOfPowning089]

Korean levers are better and u have to tighten it down with the wrench that comes with it

[@Guilherme-g8b9x]

nice !!

[@Boro87]

You like the JLF more rn bcs you ve been using it, you might see the allha N is completely superior after you re used to it

[@roycearmani5760]

Switch those switches to the gersung A3 switches on the 309 new help me. You’ll like the result.

[@lazyboy1042]

I customised my sanwa jlf ... I put in microswitch with metal blades

[@imangolix7235]

@@lazyboy1042 lmao no way.... right?

[@imangolix7235]

@@lazyboy1042 Oh u mean like the metal prongs right

[@lazyboy1042]

Yeah those blades to trigger the micro switches

[@lazyboy1042]

N u dont need to buy different actuator ... I solve that problem using heatshrink lol

[@sayacat64]

hello, what's the input viewer you using, looks very clean ?

[@imangolix7235]

obsproject.com/forum/resources/display-fightstick-motions.344/

[@sayacat64]

@@imangolix7235 thank you so much !!

[@Khinh-xq6lx]

shorter throw is better for fighting games

[@LoserTry]

not really

[@audiosmurf]

Depends on the fighting game.

[@demonportable]

I prefer shorter myself super loose

[@Digamortis]

Does this fit in the Qanba Obsidian 2?

[@imangolix7235]

@@Digamortis most definitely

[@fiji3615]

how long did it take u to get good at lever wavu n excution in general

[@imangolix7235]

well i first started playing on lever 10 months ago

[@MichaelHarto]

in my place, people grew up in arcades with gateless/round gate levers. finding diagonals are easy. transitioning to square gate wasn't hard. but octa gate is really weird for us.

[@Xtremegameing-sk1es]

Or it could be just me. I started off on Korean but I'm using Japanese now.

[@AokoTheGod]

Keisuke be liek :

[@audiosmurf]

My IST Alpha N came absolutely messed up. There are massive gaps in the enclosure where the grommet is supposed to fit snugly, and I've tried a lot of grommets to find one that fits the shape. As a result the tension at various points feels extremely uneven. I really can't believe they messed up so badly on something that's supposed to be machined delrin. It's not like it's cheap either, so I don't want to risk getting another one and having it turn out just as bad. I had a 49s a while ago that was pretty good, but I gave it to a friend. Mad disappointed.

[@imangolix7235]

Sorry to hear that. Yeah the Alpha N is not cheap at all and I was considering if I should just get a 47c or 49s. Just went with this because someone was selling it for a decent deal. But I cant help but feel that I probably wouldve been better off with the 47c or 49s. Hope you get a decent lever in the future!

[@audiosmurf]

@@imangolix7235 Yeah it's a shame because consistency issues are what generally plague korean levers, the most consistent ones I have are the Cool Bear levers which sadly aren't in production anymore, and the Fujin 3s, both of which are quite pricey. If you're happy with the quality control on yours then the problem with switch feedback is easily solved. The Gersung A3HM switches have a similar tension to JLF switches and actuate more quickly than the IST Kalih ones. I generally use those in lower tension levers because lack of actuation feedback can be a problem there.

[@leperique]

Return it man!

[@leperique]

Hello mate! My issue was the swtiches: One of the omron was faulty and very sensitive. I replaced it and now the tension is the same in all of them.

[@Kof2002dz]

i have a bad experience with sanwa lever jlf the korean lever are way better than sanwa i like thzm

[@Nimrod336]

I adopted my autistic nephew 8 yrs ago. He has to play on lever for accessibility reasons..I bought him a nacon dijah. The switches are bad he gets double inputs. I bought a replacement board with switches on paradise arcade or focus attack I can't remember..it was a rip off chines one. Can you plz help me I don't have the money for a new fight stick but I have enough to buy a replacement stick. I don't know where to go. This looks cool where did you get it from. I really need some help bro

[@imangolix7235]

@@Nimrod336 focusattack and arcadeshock are good places to get levers although im not sure what kind of lever you are looking for. And if the switches are bad you can get a replacement sanwa jlf pcb they are generally cheap. For this specific lever (Alpha N) you would have to go IST's official website or on their Ebay store. Shipping is 20 USD tho. But i bought mine from a guy who sold it on r/fightsticksforsale if you wanna go that route.

[@Nimrod336]

@imangolix7235 I got a replacement pcb but, it was so bad the green on the board started peeling off. I don't trust focus attack anymore.it was worse than the broken one. I'll check out shock I never heard of it..thanks pray i don't get another chines knock off

[@imangolix7235]

@@Nimrod336 sorry to hear that. Hope you get that replacement bro

[@MLGGaAn9sStT3R]

Lmao don’t show a hitbox to these scrubs, they will go nuts lmaaaaaao

[@BryanKo]

Th reason its unscrewing is cus you ned to tighten it

[@imangolix7235]

@@BryanKo yeah i been trying but i asked some people and they said i needed a bigger flathead. Thanks

[@ardidsonriente2223]

If you think that is great, just wait for when you try leverless.

[@imangolix7235]

@@ardidsonriente2223 not a big fan of leverless since my fingers arent fast enough. But yeah leverless is op