Sapient Thoughts #29: Richard Dawkins, the Quran & the mixing of the two seas | Mohammed Hijab

[@Mafia_マフィア]

( Or were they created by nothing, or are they ˹their own˺ creators? ) - Surah At-Tur - 52:35

[@profanotherletter4346]

I remember that, i seriously think richard dawkins can be destroyed by discord kids

[@jean1785]

Like zir gabtain

[@emkfenboi]

he's a noob in philosophy

[@cactusmccoy3113]

@@jean1785 lmaoooo 😂😂

[@IbnMurrah]

🤣🤣🤣

[@xylope3384]

The ship of theseus

[@IslamicAwareness27]

so Richard want to tell us that for 1400 years, no one tried to mix salty water and drinking water to disprove the Quran...

[@khaledchatah3425]

it seems like so....

[@Darkev77]

But salty water and sweet water indeed don’t mix at equilibrium due to differences in densities of the two fluids, a density gradient is formed.

[@ammar675]

@Aziz Rahman Did you even read what he's arguing about? He's arguing for the Qur'an.

[@SabeerAbdulla]

@Aziz Rahman it's called a halocline, that's what he's referring to.

[@appearances9250]

Elaborate please

[@scoops2382]

@Aziz Rahman hahahaha you fool

[@Ash-bc2nu]

Only a coward would question children and use the footage to promote his worldview, if he is a man accept the challenge of a knowledge Muslim adult

[@erikhviid3189]

Atheism is NOT a worldview. It is just and only not believing in any God(s). And in this case he simply asked the kids, what they were taught in School. And from a scientific point of view it is BS what they are taught. MH can bend and stretch his interpretations as much as he wants.

[@zachaman4458]

@@erikhviid3189 I remember watching the programme from which the clip of Dawkins talking to the girls was taken from, now let me ask you a question, do you think that it is fair for a grown, highly educated, well read man who has a superior intellect or intelligence to engage with young girls?, this is the cowardice of atheists and atheism, rather than engage with someone who is of similar ilk Dawkins stoops to the lowest level to make himself credible, but what do you expect from people who have no moral or ethical anchor, btw if believing in a higher power or creator is BS as you put it, please give me the scientific evidence that a higher power or creator doesn't exist, go ahead, I'll wait

[@erikhviid3189]

@@zachaman4458 : I don’t know where you live, but I can tell you, that in Scandinavia we prefer highly educated teachers in our (public) schools, colleges and Universities. If you “believe” that atheists don’t have a moral anchor, you have a problem. In Scandinavia are 95+ % (the native population) atheists and/or cultural- Christians. And I think, that our social wellfare systems, our education-system, our healtcare- system and even our tax-system shows a high level of morality. Science can not disprove the excistence of a God/Creator. Science can not disprove abstract concepts. That not what science does. But science hasn’t found any evidence of any Gods. And thats it.

[@littlesoul8282]

Richard Dawkins has spoken to many Muslims but I don't think there has ever been a debate with a muslim scholar/professor etc. (or I haven't come across it yet). He does not only question children but held many speeches to and had debates with adults from every walk of life. However, what he has to say makes a lot of sense and he's open minded enough to ask questions - something I wish believers would do instead of having "blind faith" and not digging any deeper into the subject. Mr. Dawkins cares for what is true. And so far no religion was able to prove it's true. And remember: the burden of proof lies with those who make the claim. Atheists don't believe in a God so they have nothing to proove. Mind you: they do NOT claim there is no God. They simply haven't seen enough evidence to convince them that there IS a God. (No,holy books are no proof for God. They're merely the claim.)

[@Ash-bc2nu]

@@littlesoul8282 r u saying ‘we don’t know’ if he has had a debate with a Muslim scholar, professor or r u saying he has since he has debated people of all walks of life? If he hasn’t, which is my understanding, then do u agree with my original comment

[@mohammadhdiebi3249]

Using basic logic, the very fact we have salt water and fresh water shows that there is a portion of the earth where salt water doesn’t touch fresh water, or else we wouldn’t have fresh water. Dawkins is old

[@NANOG-P8]

the fact that we have fresh water to drink is proof that food coloring and water don't mix .

[@meme-mc6yl]

Are you high?

[@pelomocho8567]

so salt water doesnt touch fresh water?

[@annaheya2109]

I recently saw this it's just amazing subhanallah 💚

[@prakz71]

May the peace and blessing of prophet Muhammad be into you

[@mdfahd24]

@@annaheya2109 That @prakz71 guy above is a stupid troll who thinks we muslim "worship" a servant & messenger of God i.e., Prophet Muhammadﷺ himself, that's why he made that that Shirkiya dua.. Peace & blessings can only come from Allah swt. We pray to God alone, that's the teachings of his prophets.

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@@mdfahd24 noted thanks

[@yaseenaitsimmou2061]

This is actually a proof for Islam and not against it lol.

[@bleirdo_dude]

It's proof that most people do not know what these passages really mean.

[@OriginalAndroidPhone]

"When you mix saltwater and freshwater in a test tube, you'll get a visible separation of the two liquids due to the difference in their densities. Saltwater is denser than freshwater, so it will settle at the bottom of the tube while the freshwater will float on top. Over time, you may also observe some mixing of the two layers due to diffusion. However, this will be a slow process and may not be easily visible without careful observation over an extended period. In addition to the natural processes of the hydrologic cycle, physical barriers can also prevent the mixing of saltwater and freshwater in certain regions. One example of such a physical barrier are mountains, which act as natural boundaries between different watersheds. Mountains prevent the mixing of water from different regions by directing the flow of water towards different drainage basins. As water flows down the slopes of a mountain, it may pick up dissolved minerals and other substances, but it does not typically mix with water from other drainage basins. This helps to maintain the distinctiveness of freshwater sources in different regions. Another physical barrier that can prevent the mixing of saltwater and freshwater is the presence of underground impermeable layers such as clay or rock formations. These layers can prevent saltwater from infiltrating freshwater aquifers by acting as a barrier to the movement of water. This helps to maintain the quality and purity of freshwater sources in some areas. Overall, physical barriers such as mountains and underground impermeable layers can help to prevent the mixing of saltwater and freshwater in certain regions, further protecting the quality and purity of freshwater sources." SOURCE: ChatGPT

[@markorbit4752]

so the two waters mix, but slowly?

[@OriginalAndroidPhone]

@@markorbit4752 No, although minute amounts of mixing can occur, it is vastly outgunned by the effect of their densities. With prolonged time, salt is always going to be heavy and will settle at the bottom, and the upper portion of water will remain fresh. This is what Google Bard explains: If you put salty water in a test tube and come back many months later, the salt will have settled to the bottom of the test tube. This is because salt is more dense than water, so it will sink to the bottom. The water above the salt will be less dense, so it will float on top. The salt may also crystallize over time, forming a layer of salt crystals on the bottom of the test tube. Here is a more detailed explanation of what happens: When you add salt to water, the salt dissolves. This means that the salt molecules break apart and spread out evenly throughout the water. The salt molecules are attracted to each other, so they tend to clump together. This is why salt can form crystals. The salt molecules are also heavier than water molecules. This means that they will sink to the bottom of the test tube if you give them enough time. The water molecules are lighter than the salt molecules, so they will float on top of the salt. If you leave the salty water in the test tube for a long time, the salt will continue to sink to the bottom. The water above the salt will become less salty, and the salt will become more concentrated at the bottom of the test tube. Eventually, all of the salt will settle to the bottom of the test tube, and the water above it will be almost pure water.

[@markorbit4752]

@@OriginalAndroidPhone You said "minute amounts of mixing can occur".....Well, you agree with me that mixing occurs. Everything else which you type is meaningless. The quran says no mixing occurs

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

Subhanallah ❤️🤍❤️ Brother Hijab with Hair is back 🤣🤣 Nature's blend is really effective (jk)

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Need to get some of that

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Akhi you do realise this was filmed before he had a haircut...

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

@@soufyan454I know akhi 😁 that's why i wrote "(jk) " 😅

[@soufyan454]

@@asadullahsaaid3794 may Allah bless you bro didnt notice

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

It's the Atheists who are actually the "Young ones, weak ones, untrained ones". "You (Atheists) didn't even make an attempt." (x2) 🤣🤣🤣

[@barkatullahdurrani]

College Students 😊😊😊

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Lol

[@bleirdo_dude]

The truth of the Koran revealed as clear as the the bright blue sky. Only those addicted to lies will deny these clear proofs. 4.082 "Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity." Note: Pickthal (Marmaduke) translation is used because it's the most honest, and does not use the cheating brackets "[ ]" that later translations use to assert meanings to fit modern knowledge. Classical Arabic is a sloppy language since one word can be stuffed with many meanings (good for making words rhyme). 21.030 "Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water. Will they not then believe?" Muslim apologists point to this verse as evidence that knowledge of the Big Bang theory (the universe started out as a single point then expanded) is revealed, and the fact that we are made up of mostly water. Actually it's a vague reference to Genesis in the OT where the Earth was entirely covered in water (one piece/no creation out of nothing) which God separated, and brought life from the water. Genesis 1:1-2 (NRSV) "In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters." 1:6b "let it separate the waters from the waters." 1:20a "And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures," Both have man created with wet mud. 25.054a "And He it is Who hath created man from water," 23.012 "Verily We created man from a product of wet earth" Gen. 2:6b-:7a "water the whole face of the ground - then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground," The Koran though vague does mention terrestrial fresh, and salt water seas. 35.012 "And the two seas are not alike: this, fresh, sweet, good to drink, this (other) bitter, salt. And from them both ye eat fresh meat and derive the ornament that ye wear. And thou seest the ship cleaving them with its prow that ye may seek of His bounty, and that haply ye may give thanks." But what is the "forbidding ban between them", and "barrier between the two seas" in the Koran? 25.053 "And He it is Who hath given independence to the two seas (though they meet); one palatable, sweet, and the other saltish, bitter; and hath set a bar and a forbidding ban between them." 27.061 "Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and hath set a barrier between the two seas. Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!" 55.019-020 "He hath loosed the two seas. They meet. There is a barrier between them. They encroach not (one upon the other)." Muslim apologists like to cherry pick these verses to coincide with the modern discovery of density barriers found in the deepest oceans, or the discovery of deep earth fresh water aquifers. The truth is the Koran is talking about the molten glass dome firmament coming down 360° that separates and holds up the ocean of Heaven. For this is why the sky is blue and freshwater rain comes from the Heavens above because the creation mythmakers were ignorant of what we now know. Gen. 1:6a "And God said, “Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters," Just look at the light blue sky coming down meeting, but not mixing with the deep blue ocean on the horizon. 16.014a "And He it is Who hath constrained the sea..." 21.032 "And we have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents." Gen. 1:7 "So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so." Gen. 14a "And God said, “Let there be lights in the dome of the sky" Psalm 148:4-6 "Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens! Let them praise the name of the LORD, for he commanded and they were created. He established them forever and ever; he fixed their bounds, which cannot be passed." Proverbs 8:28-29 "when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth," Job 37:18 "Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?" Job 23:12, :14c “Is not God high in the heavens? See the highest stars, how lofty they are!" "...and he walks on the dome of heaven.’" 54.011 "Then opened We the gates of heaven with pouring water" Gen. 7:11d "...and the windows of the heavens were opened." 8:2bc "the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained," Isa. 24:18b "For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble." Also the Koran says (27.061) that the Earth is "a fixed abode" which affirms the OT. 1 Samuel 2:8b "For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world." Job 9:6c "...who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;" Psa. 75:3c, 82:5c, 102:25a, 104:5 "...it is I who keep its pillars steady.", "...all the foundations of the earth are shaken.", "Long ago you laid the foundation of the earth,", "You set the earth on its foundations, so that it shall never be shaken.". Job 26:7b "...and hangs the earth upon nothing." (Note: The Earth orbits by gravity which is not nothing) The Koran reflects ancient cosmology meanwhile apologists try to put a "what we now know" spin on it. Of course ancient people seen how vast the land and sky is. Both are using the argument from ignorance (look at everything therefore God did it as per Romans 1:20). 51.047-048 "We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof). And the earth have We laid out, how gracious is the Spreader (thereof)!" 91.006 "And the earth and Him Who spread it," Modern translations/apologists try to word the above to sound like the Big Bang, but it's just the OT God myth separating and stretching out what was already there (no creatio ex nihilo). Isa. 40:22 "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in;" Isa. 42:5a 5 "Thus says God, the LORD, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it," The moon gives it's own light. 71.016 "And hath made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp?" 25.061b "...and hath placed therein a great lamp and a moon giving light!" Gen. 1:16ab "God made the two great lights - the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night" The Sun has an orbit. 21.033bc "...the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit." 36.040 "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit." 55.005 "The sun and the moon are made punctual." Ecclesiastes 1:5 "The sun rises and the sun goes down, and hurries to the place where it rises." Joshua 10:12-14 "On the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the Lord; and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? *The sun stopped in midheaven, and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.* There has been no day like it before or since, when the Lord heeded a human voice; for the Lord fought for Israel." Psalm 19:1, :4c-6 "The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork.", "...In the heavens he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom from his wedding canopy, and like a strong man runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them; and nothing is hid from its heat." A Common Cosmology of the Ancient World www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/gre13.htm "Finally, it is worth pointing out that the world picture of the Jewish people, as reconstructed from various passages in the Bible, was essentially the same as that of the Egyptians and the Babylonians. ...The flat, disc-shaped Earth is surrounded by a sea; beneath the Earth, there are wells and fountains connected with the upper part of the Earth as well as with the great deep, called Tehom. The Earth rests on pillars, and above it is the sky or firmament. Waters are to be found not only on the Earth or beneath it, but also above the firmament." Helge S. Kragh, Conception of Cosmos, pp. 10

[@bleirdo_dude]

Muslims apologists like to point to the Koran in that it explains layers of the Earth's atmosphere. In truth it describes ancient cosmological beliefs. 2.029b "...Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens." 41.012 "Then He ordained them seven heavens in two Days and inspired in each heaven its mandate; and We decked the nether heaven with lamps, and rendered it inviolable. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Knower." (See also 17.044, 23.017, 23.086, 65.012, 67.003, 71.015, 78.012) Today people consider Heaven as being in another dimension, but the ancients seen it in what we now call outer space. 2 Enoch 8:1 “And those men took me thence, and led me up on to the third heaven, and placed me there”. Apocalypse of Moses 38:4 “And … the Father of all … stretched out his hand, and took Adam and handed him over to the archangel Michael saying: ‘Lift him up into Paradise unto the third Heaven'”. 2 Corinthis 12:2-4 "I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven - whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Heavens "Closely associated with Kabbalah was the concept of the soul’s journey through the seven heavens, the Hekhalot-palaces-inhabited by the planetary powers, an enterprise which could result in profound insight into the nature of the cosmos, and that required personal purity, great discipline, and a detailed knowledge of the correct magical procedures." Nicholas Campion, Astrology and Cosmology in the Worlds Religions, pp. 145 25.061 *"a Blessed be He Who hath placed in the heaven mansions of the stars,"* "...ancient Babylonian world concept. ...The two central seven staged pyramids represent respectively the upper and lower halves of E-KUR, the earth. The seven dotted half circles above the earth represent the "seven heavens" of the planets; the corresponding hemispheres below the earth the "seven hells". The outermost sphere...the sphere girdled by the many mansioned Zodiac,... William F Warren, The Earliest Cosmologies, pp. 38-39 Muslim apologists say that the Koran predicts space exploration. But it's just Judgement Day where believers will be driven up to the Heavens, and disbelievers marched deep into the Earth each passing through their own gates (78.017-023, 39.073-074, 38.049-051, 7.040, 39.071-072, 15.043-44, 16.029). The Koran (15.016, 37.006, 41.012, 67.005, 85.001, 15.016-.018, 37.006-.010, 67.005) have shooting stars explained as projectiles sent by Allah to ward off devils that try to eavesdrop on his high council meetings with archangels. Apologists point to modern knowledge of cosmic phenomenon (gamma ray bursts/solar flares) to make the Koran look miraculous, but the Koran is talking about observable streaking meteors. Here's just a sampling of what the Koran is peppered with that's designed to keep people in cognitive bonds so as not to disbelieve. 4.082 "Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity." 5.086 "But those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, they are owners of hell- fire." 040.070-072 "Those who deny the Scripture and that wherewith We send Our messengers. But they will come to know, When carcans are about their necks and chains. They are dragged Through boiling waters; then they are thrust into the Fire." 16.104-105 "Lo! those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, Allah guideth them not and theirs will be a painful doom. Only they invent falsehood who believe not Allah's revelations, and (only) they are the liars." 2.006-007 "As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom." 2.039 "But they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2.099 "Verily We have revealed unto thee clear tokens, and only miscreants will disbelieve in them." 85.010 "Lo! they who persecute believing men and believing women and repent not, theirs verily will be the doom of hell, and theirs the doom of burning." 2.010 "In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie." 2.017b-018 "...Allah taketh away their light and leaveth them in darkness, where they cannot see, Deaf, dumb and blind; and they return not." 80.038-042 "On that day faces will be bright as dawn, Laughing, rejoicing at good news; And other faces, on that day, with dust upon them, Veiled in darkness, Those are the disbelievers, the wicked." Those who believe then disbelieve Islam actuality still believe, but are just under Allah's curse. LOL! 2.089 "And when there cometh unto them a scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession - though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved - and when there cometh unto them that which they know (to be the truth) they disbelieve therein. The curse of Allah is on disbelievers." 6.025 "Of them are some who listen unto thee, but We have placed upon their hearts veils, lest they should understand, and in their ears a deafness. If they saw every token they would not believe therein; to the point that, when they come unto thee to argue with thee, the disbelievers say: This is naught else than fables of the men of old." 17.046 "And We place upon their hearts veils lest they should understand it, and in their ears a deafness; and when thou makest mention of thy Lord alone in the Qur'an, they turn their backs in aversion." When the cognitive dissonance reaches an intolerable level the Muslim withdraws with declaration of "Peace", but they are calling you a fool. 25.063 "The (faithful) slaves of the Beneficent are they who walk upon the earth modestly, and when the foolish ones address them answer: Peace;" Psalm 14:1 "Fools say in their hearts, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is no one who does good." If a Muslim uses their left hand which is used for dirty chores (use your imagination) with you it's a subtle insult. 90.019 "But those who disbelieve Our revelations, their place will be on the left hand."

[@bleirdo_dude]

*Drug addictions, and thought addictions are closely related on a neurological level.* Some people are more beholden to the ancient part of the brain (Meso Limbic System/emotional) rather than someone that reasons using the modern part (Frontal Cortex/rational). Imagine the euphoria experienced by the average person for believing they won a million dollars on a scratch off ticket (it could be a joke ticket yet as long as they believe). Now imagine someone having the same sensations, but being convinced it's a paranormal contact for believing John 3:16. We evolved to seek pleasure (eating/reproduction), and avoid getting killed (tiger in the grass/competing neighbor/harsh enviroment). With our increased cognitive abilities we made up other reasons for pleasure, and survival beyond basic necessity. The Dopamine Reward System over time bridges gaps in pathways in order to form habits in order to repeat behaviors, and or thoughts. The often cited testimony of getting off an addiction thanks to a God is just a placebo replacement due to the power of the mind (an AA participant I heard of chose to worship the radiator in his room instead of an higher power, and became sober). "The second system, known as the mesolimbic system, has its cell bodies in the ventral tegmental area, which is medial to the substantia nigra. It projects to several parts of the limbic system, including the nucleus accumbens and ventral portions of the striatum, amygdala, and hippocampus, as well as prefrontal cortex. *This system has been linked to reward-related behavior (Berridge and Kringelbach, 2015). Dopamine levels in the nucleus accumbens increase in response to both natural reinforcers (such as food, drink, and sex) and drugs of abuse (such as amphetamine and cocaine). Additionally, in humans, activity in this region increases in response to more abstract rewards, such as money."* Marie T. Banich/Rebecca J. Compton, Cognitive Neuroscience, Section: Subsystems, pp. 2/3 *"Dopamine, in fact, is critical in association learning and the reward system of the brain that Skinner discovered through his process of operant conditioning, whereby any behavior that is reinforced tends to be repeated. A reinforcement is, by definition, something that is rewarding to the organism; that is to say, it makes the brain direct the body to repeat the behavior in order to get another positive reward.* ...The connection between dopamine and belief was established by experiments conducted by Peter Brugger and his colleague Christine Mohr at the University of Bristol in England. *Exploring the neurochemistry of superstition, magical thinking, and belief in the paranormal, Brugger and Mohr found that people with high levels of dopamine are more likely to find significance in coincidences and pick out meaning and patterns where there are none."* Michael Shermer, The Believing Brain, Section: 6 The Believing Neuron pp. 8-10/29 *"Genetic and behavioral factors influencing religiously motivated behavior appear related to dopamine metabolism and signaling. Inclination toward religious behavior and motivation has been associated with a polymorphism on the dopamine receptor gene DRD4 (Comings, Gonzales, Saucier, Johnson, & MacMurray, 2000;Sasaki et al., 2013). Acquired disorders of dopamine physiology also show links to religious behaviors."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478470/ *"Religious and spiritual experiences activate the brain reward circuits in much the same way as love, sex, gambling, drugs and music,* report researchers at the University of Utah School of Medicine." unews.utah.edu/this-is-your-brain-on-god/ "Dopamine, adrenaline, and noradrenaline are neurotransmitters that belong to the catecholamine family. Dopamine is produced in the substantia nigra and ventral tegmental regions of the brain, and *dopamine alterations are related to schizophrenia (1, 2). ...The “original dopamine hypothesis” states that hyperactive dopamine transmission results in schizophrenic symptoms."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032934/ *"Dopamine In schizophrenia (SCZ), there is evidence that very high levels of dopamine in the limbic system play a major role in emergence of hallucinations and delusions. Antipsychotic medications, which block central dopamine activity, alleviate the hallucinations of psychosis. Drugs with strong dopaminergic effect, such as L-dopa, methylphenidate, bromocriptine, pramipexole and piribedil, may induce hallucinations. D-amphetamine, a direct dopamine agonist, may also induce psychosis and hallucinations."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996210/ *"Here, we show that administration of a drug that enhances dopaminergic function (dihydroxy-L-phenylalanine; L-DOPA) increases an optimism bias. This effect is due to L-DOPA impairing the ability to update belief in response to undesirable information about the future."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3424419/ "Tibetan mystics have long practiced a method to create sentient beings (Tulpas) from the power of concentrated thought." Note: These (Tulpas) are not sentient beings, but a manifestation of the subconscious mind through neural plasticity via neurochemical imbalancing inducing meditation. In other words it's having a dream state while awake, and interacting with a character that's made up of one's own preformed thoughts (building blocks of ideas/concepts that are below conscious awareness) which gives the illusion of sentience. In simpler words it's self induced schizophrenia due to stresses (psychological/physical/environmental) where neurochemical traffic gets rerouted causing hallucinations to any of the five senses, also including involuntary movement, and distorted speech (glossolalia). www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_ca/article/exmqzz/tulpamancy-internet-subculture-892 Ancient people did not know the neurosciences. Philo of Alexandria thought that joy came from Heaven by way of God's chief archangel the "Divine Word/Right Reason (Logos)". ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book 2 "XXXVII ...And *who can pour over the happy soul which proffers its own reason as the most sacred cup, the holy goblets of true joy, except the cup-bearer of God, the master of the feast, the Word?"* ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION, III "LX *...the soul very often, when it is delighted, is yet unable to explain what it is that has delighted it; but it is taught by the hierophant and prophet Moses, who tells it, “This is the bread, the food which God has given for the Soul, (Exo. **16:15**)” explaining that God has brought it, his own Word and his own Reason; for this bread which he has given us to eat is this Word of his."* The High Priest's headdress had a crown made of a plant known for it's hallucinogenic properties at which a golden plate covered the forehead. On said golden plate was inscribed sacred characters for the name of God. Josephus: THE ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS, BOOK 3, CHAPTER 7 (172-178), CONCERNING THE GARMENTS ...OF THE HIGH PRIEST "6. The high priest's mitre was the same that we described before, and was wrought like that of all the other priests; above which there was another, with swathes of blue embroidered, and round it was a golden crown polished, of three rows, one above another; out of which arose a cup of gold, which resembled the herb which we call Saccharus: *but those Greeks that are skilful in botany call it Hyoscyamus. ...Now the fruit is preserved by this coat of the calyx, which fruit is like the seed of the herb Sideritis: it sends out a flower that may seem to resemble that of poppy. Of this was a crown made, as far as from the hinder part of the head to each of the temples; but this Ephielis, for so this calyx may be called, did not cover the forehead, but it was covered with a golden plate, which had inscribed upon it the name of God in sacred characters. And such were the ornaments of the high priest."* *Hyoscyamus Niger* " ...was historically used..., *as well as for its psychoactive properties in "magic brews". These psychoactive properties include visual hallucinations and a sensation of flight. ...The plant, recorded as Herba Apollinaris, was used to yield oracles by the priestesses of Apollo.* " en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscyamus_niger Scrambled neurochemistry is insight to another realm for some people. The Holy Dopamine Ghost (Thoughts are addictive) kzbin.info/aero/PLQATeZAnm87BaJjBtM1vMIq_gHRmBq3ie Scripture is designed to keep people in the thought addiction, and shut out from the group those that question. "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov. 1:7) "In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." "but when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed." (2 Cor. 4:4, 3:16) "As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom." (Quran 2.006-.007) "Fools say in their hearts, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is no one who does good." (Psa. 14:1) "but whoever blasphemes against the *Holy Dopamine Ghost* can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin" (Mark 3:29) i.imgflip.com/1ydvtk.jpg

[@JosefTheMuslim]

I see a lot of straw man reasoning to this question. Some suggest the Quran got it wrong because you can mix salt and sweet water in a glass. Some suggest that salt and sweet water in nature get brackish and therefore mix. The arabs used cooking salt by the time the quran was revealed (processed salt had been used by humans for at least for 2.000 years before Muhammad was born) and knew very well that salt or salt water would dissolve in sweet water. However the Quran verses say that these are TWO seas that stay parted, it does not speak of mixing water in a glass (25:53 and 55:19-20) and neither does it say there will be no brakish water, it does not say ALL waters will not mix, it says these two seas will stay parted. And just as the verses say there have now been seas with different salinity and fresh water seas that has stayed parted for thousands and millions of years. Whether you beleive this is a miracle or that sailors told Muhammad about this, is your own opinion, but it doesn’t change the fact that we still have a pacific and atlantic ocean, a pacific that stays separated from the sweet alaskan gulf water. Next point is that the reason that the seas don’t meet is perfectly scientifically explainable, because of different density in sweet water and sea water with different salt levels.

[@ambinintsoahasina]

you copy pasted a quora answer did you?

[@JosefTheMuslim]

@@ambinintsoahasina It was I who wrote the Quora answer genius.

[@Abdalladahir.]

​@@JosefTheMuslim bro u r legend wallah, u put the nonsense guy in the reply in his place.

[@Someone-gl9kz]

I like the video before it even starts. May Allah reward you all. Amin!

[@Abid-nt8zq]

Salam from Pakistan

[@annaheya2109]

Walaykom Salam sister From London

[@walidkb3373]

@@annaheya2109 salam aleykoum from France

[@kathir6022]

Salam from Australia

[@annaheya2109]

@@kathir6022 kelb 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@kathir6022]

@@annaheya2109 yes 🐶

[@Soyodi]

I thought the verse was referring to the Fraser river water meeting the ocean sea water in Strait of Georgia in Canada

[@SabeerAbdulla]

@Siraj Haq it's called a halocline.

[@glasgowblackchigowski6117]

Richard dawkins should only debate children that's when he always wins.

[@shahsaud2625]

Richard dawkins had as much intellect as he has hair !

[@schorpioen7466]

He has more hair than hijab :)

[@erikhviid3189]

And your academic / scientific background is ????

[@erikhviid3189]

I don’t need further explanations on why muslims are miserable underrepresented on Nobel Prize Winners .

[@schorpioen7466]

@Kakashi Hatake No ok that is true, he was just fed up with his afro. But to be fair, Dawkins and Hijab are both intelligent. You don't have to like them, but they are not stupid..

[@erikhviid3189]

@Kakashi Hatake : did I make any “claims” ?

[@Someone-ct2ck]

1:21 "untrained ones, weak ones" loooll

[@Just-One-God]

There's a KZbin channel called *_Wonder World_* who has a footage of this "barrier" that he took in the Fraser River Delta in Vancouver, British Columbia, 🇨🇦 Canada. He even brought the exact Quran verse that talks about it.

[@ammar675]

Except. He's not qualified to say that. The Qur'an never explicitly says what the barrier is. Hence why there is a difference in opinion. Is the guy a Mufassir? no.

[@Just-One-God]

@@ammar675 The video does show two bodies of water with different colours (the salt one is in blue and the fresh one is in gray) and they somehow don't mix as if a "barrier" exists between them that prevents them from mixing with each other, pretty much similar to what the Quran describes. Apparently the video invites and triggers a lot of butthurt anti-Muslims tho. I see numerous Muslim users visiting the video just to stand up for the Quran in order to combat those blasphemous Islam haters.

[@pelomocho8567]

@@Just-One-God ok so you believe such barriers exist? so then hijabs response is wrong?

[@richadambudgen7520]

When I first reverted I was very much sold the Haroon Yahya, Adnan Oktar scientific miracles narrative and I was a 32 year old man at the time, not a school boy. People got very rich peddling that stuff.

[@richadambudgen7520]

@lightrider that's an affirmative. Very much so.

[@richadambudgen7520]

@lightrider alhamdulilah. Peace!

[@bleirdo_dude]

The truth of the Koran revealed as clear as the the bright blue sky. Only those addicted to lies will deny these transparent truths. 4.082 "Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity." Note: Pickthal (Marmaduke) translation is used because it's the most honest, and does not use the cheating brackets "[ ]" that later translations use to assert meanings to fit modern knowledge. Classical Arabic is a sloppy language since one word can be stuffed with many meanings (good for making words rhyme). 21.030 "Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water. Will they not then believe?" Muslim apologists point to this verse as evidence that knowledge of the Big Bang theory (the universe started out as a single point then expanded) is revealed, and the fact that we are made up of mostly water. Actually it's a vague reference to Genesis in the OT where the Earth was entirely covered in water (one piece/no creation out of nothing) which God separated, and brought life from the water. Genesis 1:1-2 (NRSV) "In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters." 1:6b "let it separate the waters from the waters." 1:20a "And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures," Both have man created with wet mud. 25.054a "And He it is Who hath created man from water," 23.012 "Verily We created man from a product of wet earth" Gen. 2:6b-:7a "water the whole face of the ground - then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground," The Koran though vague does mention terrestrial fresh, and salt water seas. 35.012 "And the two seas are not alike: this, fresh, sweet, good to drink, this (other) bitter, salt. And from them both ye eat fresh meat and derive the ornament that ye wear. And thou seest the ship cleaving them with its prow that ye may seek of His bounty, and that haply ye may give thanks." But what is the "forbidding ban between them", and "barrier between the two seas" in the Koran? 25.053 "And He it is Who hath given independence to the two seas (though they meet); one palatable, sweet, and the other saltish, bitter; and hath set a bar and a forbidding ban between them." 27.061 "Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and hath set a barrier between the two seas. Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!" 55.019-020 "He hath loosed the two seas. They meet. There is a barrier between them. They encroach not (one upon the other)." Muslim apologists like to cherry pick these verses to coincide with the modern discovery of density barriers found in the deepest oceans, or the discovery of deep earth fresh water aquifers. The truth is the Koran is talking about the molten glass dome firmament coming down 360° that separates and holds up the ocean of Heaven. For this is why the sky is blue and freshwater rain comes from the Heavens above because the creation mythmakers were ignorant of what we now know. Gen. 1:6a "And God said, “Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters," Just look at the light blue sky coming down meeting, but not mixing with the deep blue ocean on the horizon. 16.014a "And He it is Who hath constrained the sea..." 21.032 "And we have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents." Gen. 1:7 "So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so." Gen. 14a "And God said, “Let there be lights in the dome of the sky" Psalm 148:4-6 "Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens! Let them praise the name of the LORD, for he commanded and they were created. He established them forever and ever; he fixed their bounds, which cannot be passed." Proverbs 8:28-29 "when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth," Job 37:18 "Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?" Job 23:12, :14c “Is not God high in the heavens? See the highest stars, how lofty they are!" "...and he walks on the dome of heaven.’" 54.011 "Then opened We the gates of heaven with pouring water" Gen. 7:11d "...and the windows of the heavens were opened." 8:2bc "the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained," Isa. 24:18b "For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble." Also the Koran says (27.061) that the Earth is "a fixed abode" which affirms the OT. 1 Samuel 2:8b "For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world." Job 9:6c "...who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;" Psa. 75:3c, 82:5c, 102:25a, 104:5 "...it is I who keep its pillars steady.", "...all the foundations of the earth are shaken.", "Long ago you laid the foundation of the earth,", "You set the earth on its foundations, so that it shall never be shaken.". Job 26:7b "...and hangs the earth upon nothing." (Note: The Earth orbits by gravity which is not nothing) The Koran reflects ancient cosmology meanwhile apologists try to put a "what we now know" spin on it. Of course ancient people seen how vast the land and sky is. Both are using the argument from ignorance (look at everything therefore God did it as per Romans 1:20). 51.047-048 "We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof). And the earth have We laid out, how gracious is the Spreader (thereof)!" 91.006 "And the earth and Him Who spread it," Modern translations/apologists try to word the above to sound like the Big Bang, but it's just the OT God myth separating and stretching out what was already there (no creatio ex nihilo). Isa. 40:22 "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in;" Isa. 42:5a 5 "Thus says God, the LORD, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it," The moon gives it's own light. 71.016 "And hath made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp?" 25.061b "...and hath placed therein a great lamp and a moon giving light!" Gen. 1:16ab "God made the two great lights - the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night" The Sun has an orbit. 21.033bc "...the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit." 36.040 "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit." 55.005 "The sun and the moon are made punctual." Ecclesiastes 1:5 "The sun rises and the sun goes down, and hurries to the place where it rises." Joshua 10:12-14 "On the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the Lord; and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? *The sun stopped in midheaven, and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.* There has been no day like it before or since, when the Lord heeded a human voice; for the Lord fought for Israel." Psalm 19:1, :4c-6 "The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork.", "...In the heavens he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom from his wedding canopy, and like a strong man runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them; and nothing is hid from its heat." A Common Cosmology of the Ancient World www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/gre13.htm "Finally, it is worth pointing out that the world picture of the Jewish people, as reconstructed from various passages in the Bible, was essentially the same as that of the Egyptians and the Babylonians. ...The flat, disc-shaped Earth is surrounded by a sea; beneath the Earth, there are wells and fountains connected with the upper part of the Earth as well as with the great deep, called Tehom. The Earth rests on pillars, and above it is the sky or firmament. Waters are to be found not only on the Earth or beneath it, but also above the firmament." Helge S. Kragh, Conception of Cosmos, pp. 10

[@oldacount111]

@@bleirdo_dude Get a life

[@bleirdo_dude]

@@oldacount111 *Drug addictions, and thought addictions are closely related on a neurological level.* Some people are more beholden to the ancient part of the brain (Meso Limbic System/emotional) rather than someone that reasons using the modern part (Frontal Cortex/rational). Imagine the euphoria experienced by the average person for believing they won a million dollars on a scratch off ticket (it could be a joke ticket yet as long as they believe). Now imagine someone having the same sensations, but being convinced it's a paranormal contact for believing John 3:16. We evolved to seek pleasure (eating/reproduction), and avoid getting killed (tiger in the grass/competing neighbor/harsh enviroment). With our increased cognitive abilities we made up other reasons for pleasure, and survival beyond basic necessity. The Dopamine Reward System over time bridges gaps in pathways in order to form habits in order to repeat behaviors, and or thoughts. The often cited testimony of getting off an addiction thanks to a God is just a placebo replacement due to the power of the mind (an AA participant I heard of chose to worship the radiator in his room instead of an higher power, and became sober). "The second system, known as the mesolimbic system, has its cell bodies in the ventral tegmental area, which is medial to the substantia nigra. It projects to several parts of the limbic system, including the nucleus accumbens and ventral portions of the striatum, amygdala, and hippocampus, as well as prefrontal cortex. *This system has been linked to reward-related behavior (Berridge and Kringelbach, 2015). Dopamine levels in the nucleus accumbens increase in response to both natural reinforcers (such as food, drink, and sex) and drugs of abuse (such as amphetamine and cocaine). Additionally, in humans, activity in this region increases in response to more abstract rewards, such as money."* Marie T. Banich/Rebecca J. Compton, Cognitive Neuroscience, Section: Subsystems, pp. 2/3 *"Dopamine, in fact, is critical in association learning and the reward system of the brain that Skinner discovered through his process of operant conditioning, whereby any behavior that is reinforced tends to be repeated. A reinforcement is, by definition, something that is rewarding to the organism; that is to say, it makes the brain direct the body to repeat the behavior in order to get another positive reward.* ...The connection between dopamine and belief was established by experiments conducted by Peter Brugger and his colleague Christine Mohr at the University of Bristol in England. *Exploring the neurochemistry of superstition, magical thinking, and belief in the paranormal, Brugger and Mohr found that people with high levels of dopamine are more likely to find significance in coincidences and pick out meaning and patterns where there are none."* Michael Shermer, The Believing Brain, Section: 6 The Believing Neuron pp. 8-10/29 *"Genetic and behavioral factors influencing religiously motivated behavior appear related to dopamine metabolism and signaling. Inclination toward religious behavior and motivation has been associated with a polymorphism on the dopamine receptor gene DRD4 (Comings, Gonzales, Saucier, Johnson, & MacMurray, 2000;Sasaki et al., 2013). Acquired disorders of dopamine physiology also show links to religious behaviors."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478470/ *"Religious and spiritual experiences activate the brain reward circuits in much the same way as love, sex, gambling, drugs and music,* report researchers at the University of Utah School of Medicine." unews.utah.edu/this-is-your-brain-on-god/ "Dopamine, adrenaline, and noradrenaline are neurotransmitters that belong to the catecholamine family. Dopamine is produced in the substantia nigra and ventral tegmental regions of the brain, and *dopamine alterations are related to schizophrenia (1, 2). ...The “original dopamine hypothesis” states that hyperactive dopamine transmission results in schizophrenic symptoms."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032934/ *"Dopamine In schizophrenia (SCZ), there is evidence that very high levels of dopamine in the limbic system play a major role in emergence of hallucinations and delusions. Antipsychotic medications, which block central dopamine activity, alleviate the hallucinations of psychosis. Drugs with strong dopaminergic effect, such as L-dopa, methylphenidate, bromocriptine, pramipexole and piribedil, may induce hallucinations. D-amphetamine, a direct dopamine agonist, may also induce psychosis and hallucinations."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996210/ *"Here, we show that administration of a drug that enhances dopaminergic function (dihydroxy-L-phenylalanine; L-DOPA) increases an optimism bias. This effect is due to L-DOPA impairing the ability to update belief in response to undesirable information about the future."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3424419/ "Tibetan mystics have long practiced a method to create sentient beings (Tulpas) from the power of concentrated thought." Note: These (Tulpas) are not sentient beings, but a manifestation of the subconscious mind through neural plasticity via neurochemical imbalancing inducing meditation. In other words it's having a dream state while awake, and interacting with a character that's made up of one's own preformed thoughts (building blocks of ideas/concepts that are below conscious awareness) which gives the illusion of sentience. In simpler words it's self induced schizophrenia due to stresses (psychological/physical/environmental) where neurochemical traffic gets rerouted causing hallucinations to any of the five senses, also including involuntary movement, and distorted speech (glossolalia). www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_ca/article/exmqzz/tulpamancy-internet-subculture-892 Ancient people did not know the neurosciences. Philo of Alexandria thought that joy came from Heaven by way of God's chief archangel the "Divine Word/Right Reason (Logos)". ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book 2 "XXXVII ...And *who can pour over the happy soul which proffers its own reason as the most sacred cup, the holy goblets of true joy, except the cup-bearer of God, the master of the feast, the Word?"* ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION, III "LX *...the soul very often, when it is delighted, is yet unable to explain what it is that has delighted it; but it is taught by the hierophant and prophet Moses, who tells it, “This is the bread, the food which God has given for the Soul, (Exo. **16:15**)” explaining that God has brought it, his own Word and his own Reason; for this bread which he has given us to eat is this Word of his."* The High Priest's headdress had a crown made of a plant known for it's hallucinogenic properties at which a golden plate covered the forehead. On said golden plate was inscribed sacred characters for the name of God. Josephus: THE ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS, BOOK 3, CHAPTER 7 (172-178), CONCERNING THE GARMENTS ...OF THE HIGH PRIEST "6. The high priest's mitre was the same that we described before, and was wrought like that of all the other priests; above which there was another, with swathes of blue embroidered, and round it was a golden crown polished, of three rows, one above another; out of which arose a cup of gold, which resembled the herb which we call Saccharus: *but those Greeks that are skilful in botany call it Hyoscyamus. ...Now the fruit is preserved by this coat of the calyx, which fruit is like the seed of the herb Sideritis: it sends out a flower that may seem to resemble that of poppy. Of this was a crown made, as far as from the hinder part of the head to each of the temples; but this Ephielis, for so this calyx may be called, did not cover the forehead, but it was covered with a golden plate, which had inscribed upon it the name of God in sacred characters. And such were the ornaments of the high priest."* *Hyoscyamus Niger* " ...was historically used..., *as well as for its psychoactive properties in "magic brews". These psychoactive properties include visual hallucinations and a sensation of flight. ...The plant, recorded as Herba Apollinaris, was used to yield oracles by the priestesses of Apollo.* " en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscyamus_niger Scrambled neurochemistry is insight to another realm for some people. The Holy Dopamine Ghost (Thoughts are addictive) kzbin.info/aero/PLQATeZAnm87BaJjBtM1vMIq_gHRmBq3ie Scripture is designed to keep people in the thought addiction, and shut out from the group those that question. "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov. 1:7) "In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." "but when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed." (2 Cor. 4:4, 3:16) "As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom." (Quran 2.006-.007) "Fools say in their hearts, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is no one who does good." (Psa. 14:1) "but whoever blasphemes against the *Holy Dopamine Ghost* can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin" (Mark 3:29) i.imgflip.com/1ydvtk.jpg

[@ibnabdulrehman6402]

Masha Allah very nice. P.S:Your hair grows really fast. 😂

[@jean-christdjelhiyahot4612]

assalamu alaikum brother, could you also do a video on the invisible barrier that some scholars mentioned prevents the sweet and salty sea from mixing. I love to debate especially about Islam with non-believers, and your videos have helped me a lot in educating myself. Because I’ve seen people mention that i believe salty sea can sink to the bottom or something along those lines.

[@jean-christdjelhiyahot4612]

@Alex Bowkett oh ok I wanted to see if the invisible barrier is also a valid explanation

[@LilahIlaAllah]

لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله، What the hell is wrong with Dawkins? Can I call that a strawman which is produced via ignorance?

[@uponthestrightpath549]

MH's conversion in intro: 😃➡️➡️➡️➡️😡

[@NazmusLabs]

loool

[@each1teach1]

😭

[@kathir6022]

🤣🤣

[@abdullahx4908]

When you deal with people like neo atheists, sometimes its hard to maintain your sanity

[@ayman2121]

Subhan-Allah

[@michaeladedoyin7988]

This is mental gymnastics. In the popular "scientific miracle of the Quran" videos showing two seas meeting and presumed not to mix based on clour diffrences, we don't sea any land barrier stopping them from mixing either.

[@think-islam-channel]

Copium. Why are you so threatened by Islam that you feel the need to try to refute it? Look up haloclines.

[@youssssef]

Actually many tafseers of The Holy Quran talk about the invisible barriers .. some 1st century follower of companions actually said it means estuaries in how sees mix with rivers without see dominating the river which is the literal wordings in Quran ..

[@ahmedyamany5065]

مَرَجَ الْبَحْرَيْنِ يَلْتَقِيَانِ, بفتح الراء في كلمة البحرين يا شيخ محمد

[@jasjas3642]

lol he goes after the weak ones, little ones, untrained ones, young students.

[@abdullahx4908]

And yet, nobody notices. They’re too busy praising him

[@erikhviid3189]

MH - the undefeated champ of interpretation beyond the unreasonable.

[@pelomocho8567]

LOL

[@otacon_ahyo]

You said it brother.. Richard Dawkins is not relevant anymore

[@abdullahx4908]

Hes overrated

[@iborzov]

I myself have seen this barrier the Quran is talking about. It is located in Kazakhstan, in the Balkhash lake, but I believe there can be other places like this. Lake Balkhash is one of the unique lakes on the world map. It has neither surface runoff, nor underground drainage. In fact, such reservoirs are salty. But this lake is salty and fresh at the same time. It is unique in that its water area is divided into two zones: western and eastern. Throughout it, rivers flow into it, replenishing with water. In the first, shallow, the water is fresh, in the second, deeper, it is salty. This body of water takes 2nd place after the Caspian in terms of the size of non-breathable salt lakes and stands at 14th place as the largest salt and fresh lake in the world. This interesting place on the map of Kazakhstan attracts tourists from many countries, including Russia. Travelers travel to local hotels and resorts to find here relaxation from the city stuff.

[@nidaacmak9620]

Thank you for this video

[@Ammar.D]

Why is this guy allowed in a muslim class in tge fist place? What's goind on?

[@mazirabbasi]

I saw the ad by the 'the urdu free thinker' which promotes leaving Islam before seeing this video. Kindly look into the ads that people's before watching your video.

[@diobrando5415]

Young ones, weak ones, untrained ones

[@mumin9436]

cant even blame em. people like Zakir naik for a long time inorder to push scientific miracles in Quran theme promoted a very different interpretation of those verses than what Mohammed Hijab explained here

[@annaheya2109]

easy target

[@ArdoBlueMoon]

@@mumin9436 I don't think that's the issue. The verse is talking about the SEAS of two waters not some water in a glass or beaker. The kinesthetic barrier is what stops them from crossing.

[@ArdoBlueMoon]

@Siraj Haq Didn't Zakir Naik say what you just said about the two bodies of water? I think that's a bit harsh. He might have been wrong on some things but that doesn't make him a deliberate deceiver. I would recommend you rectify your own nafs first.

[@uzairnaseer5059]

@@ArdoBlueMoon Fr why you trying to make dawah against another Muslim instead of making dua for his guidance

[@IbadassI]

The Mediterranean and Atlantic have a barrier between the two seas. You can see pictures and video footage of two seas that meet and are separate.

[@bleirdo_dude]

@Alex Bowkett The truth of the Koran revealed as clear as the the bright blue sky. Only those addicted to lies will deny these transparent truths. 4.082 "Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity." Note: Pickthal (Marmaduke) translation is used because it's the most honest, and does not use the cheating brackets "[ ]" that later translations use to assert meanings to fit modern knowledge. Classical Arabic is a sloppy language since one word can be stuffed with many meanings (good for making words rhyme). 21.030 "Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water. Will they not then believe?" Muslim apologists point to this verse as evidence that knowledge of the Big Bang theory (the universe started out as a single point then expanded) is revealed, and the fact that we are made up of mostly water. Actually it's a vague reference to Genesis in the OT where the Earth was entirely covered in water (one piece/no creation out of nothing) which God separated, and brought life from the water. Genesis 1:1-2 (NRSV) "In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters." 1:6b "let it separate the waters from the waters." 1:20a "And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures," Both have man created with wet mud. 25.054a "And He it is Who hath created man from water," 23.012 "Verily We created man from a product of wet earth" Gen. 2:6b-:7a "water the whole face of the ground - then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground," The Koran though vague does mention terrestrial fresh, and salt water seas. 35.012 "And the two seas are not alike: this, fresh, sweet, good to drink, this (other) bitter, salt. And from them both ye eat fresh meat and derive the ornament that ye wear. And thou seest the ship cleaving them with its prow that ye may seek of His bounty, and that haply ye may give thanks." But what is the "forbidding ban between them", and "barrier between the two seas" in the Koran? 25.053 "And He it is Who hath given independence to the two seas (though they meet); one palatable, sweet, and the other saltish, bitter; and hath set a bar and a forbidding ban between them." 27.061 "Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and hath set a barrier between the two seas. Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!" 55.019-020 "He hath loosed the two seas. They meet. There is a barrier between them. They encroach not (one upon the other)." Muslim apologists like to cherry pick these verses to coincide with the modern discovery of density barriers found in the deepest oceans, or the discovery of deep earth fresh water aquifers. The truth is the Koran is talking about the molten glass dome firmament coming down 360° that separates and holds up the ocean of Heaven. For this is why the sky is blue and freshwater rain comes from the Heavens above because the creation mythmakers were ignorant of what we now know. Gen. 1:6a "And God said, “Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters," Just look at the light blue sky coming down meeting, but not mixing with the deep blue ocean on the horizon. 016.014a "And He it is Who hath constrained the sea..." Gen. 1:7 "So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so." Gen. 14a "And God said, “Let there be lights in the dome of the sky" Psalm 148:4-6 "Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens! Let them praise the name of the LORD, for he commanded and they were created. He established them forever and ever; he fixed their bounds, which cannot be passed." Proverbs 8:28-29 "when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth," Job 37:18 "Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?" Job 23:12, :14c “Is not God high in the heavens? See the highest stars, how lofty they are!" "...and he walks on the dome of heaven.’" 54.011 "Then opened We the gates of heaven with pouring water" Gen. 7:11d "...and the windows of the heavens were opened." 8:2bc "the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained," Isa. 24:18b "For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble." Also the Koran says (27.061) that the Earth is "a fixed abode" which affirms the OT. 1 Samuel 2:8b "For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world." Job 9:6c "...who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;" Psa. 75:3c, 82:5c, 102:25a, 104:5 "...it is I who keep its pillars steady.", "...all the foundations of the earth are shaken.", "Long ago you laid the foundation of the earth,", "You set the earth on its foundations, so that it shall never be shaken.". Job 26:7b "...and hangs the earth upon nothing." (Note: The Earth orbits by gravity which is not nothing) The Koran reflects ancient cosmology meanwhile apologists try to put a "what we now know" spin on it. Of course ancient people seen how vast the land and sky is. Both are using the argument from ignorance (look at everything therefore God did it as per Romans 1:20). 051.047-048 "We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof). And the earth have We laid out, how gracious is the Spreader (thereof)!" 91.006 "And the earth and Him Who spread it," Modern translations/apologists try to word the above to sound like the Big Bang, but it's just the OT God myth separating and stretching out what was already there (no creatio ex nihilo). Isa. 40:22 "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in;" Isa. 42:5a 5 "Thus says God, the LORD, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it," The moon gives it's own light. 71.016 "And hath made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp?" 25.061b "...and hath placed therein a great lamp and a moon giving light!" Gen. 1:16ab "God made the two great lights - the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night" The Sun has an orbit. 21.033bc "...the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit." 36.040 "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit." 55.005 "The sun and the moon are made punctual." Ecclesiastes 1:5 "The sun rises and the sun goes down, and hurries to the place where it rises." Joshua 10:12-14 "On the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the Lord; and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? *The sun stopped in midheaven, and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.* There has been no day like it before or since, when the Lord heeded a human voice; for the Lord fought for Israel." Psalm 19:1, :4c-6 "The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork.", "...In the heavens he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom from his wedding canopy, and like a strong man runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them; and nothing is hid from its heat." A Common Cosmology of the Ancient World www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/gre13.htm "Finally, it is worth pointing out that the world picture of the Jewish people, as reconstructed from various passages in the Bible, was essentially the same as that of the Egyptians and the Babylonians. ...The flat, disc-shaped Earth is surrounded by a sea; beneath the Earth, there are wells and fountains connected with the upper part of the Earth as well as with the great deep, called Tehom. The Earth rests on pillars, and above it is the sky or firmament. Waters are to be found not only on the Earth or beneath it, but also above the firmament." Helge S. Kragh, Conception of Cosmos, pp. 10

[@dqschannel]

I would agree would the land being the barrier therefore not a miracle.

[@RT9903]

Wallahi I am here after watching that video,,, maybe they were wrong about some things but his approach was sheer condescending... It twists my guts

[@nothingbuttruth9595]

What about Zakir Naik's opinion on this verse?

[@totallynotthefeds]

You should also show the rest of the video when he says to his like minded audience "I couldn't believe what these girls were saying, get a glass of sweet and salt water and see if they don't mix" Without any shame he completely took what the girls had said out of context and added his own narrative. For a "scientist" he's a complete joke.

[@think-islam-channel]

Isn't it a form of bullying

[@JackSparrow-ld6rz]

Salam Brother Hijab, I direct your attention to the scientific study which is discussed, the youtube video by brightside "Why the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans Don't Mix".

[@hamzaait1491]

in the Quran say 2 seas not fresh water , for example Atlantic ocean has different density than the Mediterranean sea and you can see the difference in color between the two in Tanger Morocco

[@bleirdo_dude]

The truth of the Koran revealed as clear as the the bright blue sky. Only those addicted to lies will deny these transparent truths. 4.082 "Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity." Note: Pickthal (Marmaduke) translation is used because it's the most honest, and does not use the cheating brackets "[ ]" that later translations use to assert meanings to fit modern knowledge. Classical Arabic is a sloppy language since one word can be stuffed with many meanings (good for making words rhyme). 21.030 "Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water. Will they not then believe?" Muslim apologists point to this verse as evidence that knowledge of the Big Bang theory (the universe started out as a single point then expanded) is revealed, and the fact that we are made up of mostly water. Actually it's a vague reference to Genesis in the OT where the Earth was entirely covered in water (one piece/no creation out of nothing) which God separated, and brought life from the water. Genesis 1:1-2 (NRSV) "In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters." 1:6b "let it separate the waters from the waters." 1:20a "And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures," Both have man created with wet mud. 25.054a "And He it is Who hath created man from water," 23.012 "Verily We created man from a product of wet earth" Gen. 2:6b-:7a "water the whole face of the ground - then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground," The Koran though vague does mention terrestrial fresh, and salt water seas. 35.012 "And the two seas are not alike: this, fresh, sweet, good to drink, this (other) bitter, salt. And from them both ye eat fresh meat and derive the ornament that ye wear. And thou seest the ship cleaving them with its prow that ye may seek of His bounty, and that haply ye may give thanks." But what is the "forbidding ban between them", and "barrier between the two seas" in the Koran? 25.053 "And He it is Who hath given independence to the two seas (though they meet); one palatable, sweet, and the other saltish, bitter; and hath set a bar and a forbidding ban between them." 27.061 "Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and hath set a barrier between the two seas. Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!" 55.019-020 "He hath loosed the two seas. They meet. There is a barrier between them. They encroach not (one upon the other)." Muslim apologists like to cherry pick these verses to coincide with the modern discovery of density barriers found in the deepest oceans, or the discovery of deep earth fresh water aquifers. The truth is the Koran is talking about the molten glass dome firmament coming down 360° that separates and holds up the ocean of Heaven. For this is why the sky is blue and freshwater rain comes from the Heavens above because the creation mythmakers were ignorant of what we now know. Gen. 1:6a "And God said, “Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters," Just look at the light blue sky coming down meeting, but not mixing with the deep blue ocean on the horizon. 016.014a "And He it is Who hath constrained the sea..." Gen. 1:7 "So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so." Gen. 14a "And God said, “Let there be lights in the dome of the sky" Psalm 148:4-6 "Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens! Let them praise the name of the LORD, for he commanded and they were created. He established them forever and ever; he fixed their bounds, which cannot be passed." Proverbs 8:28-29 "when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth," Job 37:18 "Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?" Job 23:12, :14c “Is not God high in the heavens? See the highest stars, how lofty they are!" "...and he walks on the dome of heaven.’" 54.011 "Then opened We the gates of heaven with pouring water" Gen. 7:11d "...and the windows of the heavens were opened." 8:2bc "the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained," Isa. 24:18b "For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble." Also the Koran says (27.061) that the Earth is "a fixed abode" which affirms the OT. 1 Samuel 2:8b "For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world." Job 9:6c "...who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;" Psa. 75:3c, 82:5c, 102:25a, 104:5 "...it is I who keep its pillars steady.", "...all the foundations of the earth are shaken.", "Long ago you laid the foundation of the earth,", "You set the earth on its foundations, so that it shall never be shaken.". Job 26:7b "...and hangs the earth upon nothing." (Note: The Earth orbits by gravity which is not nothing) The Koran reflects ancient cosmology meanwhile apologists try to put a "what we now know" spin on it. Of course ancient people seen how vast the land and sky is. Both are using the argument from ignorance (look at everything therefore God did it as per Romans 1:20). 051.047-048 "We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof). And the earth have We laid out, how gracious is the Spreader (thereof)!" 91.006 "And the earth and Him Who spread it," Modern translations/apologists try to word the above to sound like the Big Bang, but it's just the OT God myth separating and stretching out what was already there (no creatio ex nihilo). Isa. 40:22 "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in;" Isa. 42:5a 5 "Thus says God, the LORD, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it," The moon gives it's own light. 71.016 "And hath made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp?" 25.061b "...and hath placed therein a great lamp and a moon giving light!" Gen. 1:16ab "God made the two great lights - the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night" The Sun has an orbit. 21.033bc "...the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit." 36.040 "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit." 55.005 "The sun and the moon are made punctual." Ecclesiastes 1:5 "The sun rises and the sun goes down, and hurries to the place where it rises." Joshua 10:12-14 "On the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the Lord; and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? *The sun stopped in midheaven, and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.* There has been no day like it before or since, when the Lord heeded a human voice; for the Lord fought for Israel." Psalm 19:1, :4c-6 "The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork.", "...In the heavens he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom from his wedding canopy, and like a strong man runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them; and nothing is hid from its heat." A Common Cosmology of the Ancient World www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/gre13.htm "Finally, it is worth pointing out that the world picture of the Jewish people, as reconstructed from various passages in the Bible, was essentially the same as that of the Egyptians and the Babylonians. ...The flat, disc-shaped Earth is surrounded by a sea; beneath the Earth, there are wells and fountains connected with the upper part of the Earth as well as with the great deep, called Tehom. The Earth rests on pillars, and above it is the sky or firmament. Waters are to be found not only on the Earth or beneath it, but also above the firmament." Helge S. Kragh, Conception of Cosmos, pp. 10

[@jerrytugable]

A question: Holy scripture says Ayesha was 9 years old when the Prophet consumated their marriage. Is holy scripture lying? Or is it telling the truth?

[@shamsbangash2090]

الله أكبر

[@dallased78]

The translation or twist here doesn't make a difference, because it states that the barrier is "insurmountable, forbidding ban that keeps them apart". Rivers flow into the sea and vice versa. There are large lakes that meet the sea directly, or mix fresh and salt all over the earth. This verse is false, plain and simple.

[@ppevideos8627]

Christian Prince is waiting to refute all the science in the Quran. But Hijab is scared to loose face, after all this is business for him.

[@coolbuddydude1]

LOL yo takes to another level

[@StoicFlame]

weakest hijab argument ever

[@diobrando5415]

But seriously, those kids pissed me off a bit

[@techz5667]

2:40 Quran doesn't say shape of earth is flat nor ellipsoid.

[@chillfifa9379]

If it’s just that, then why do Muslims use this verse as an argument for the supernatural knowledge of the prophet Mohammed, meaning he knew that such places exist, like decide for one side and don’t jump between two explanations taking whatever fits u the most. U guys are just the definition of apologists wow.

[@GiovaniPablo1]

Mohammad hijab talks like he’s telling the news 😂

[@chosenundead4856]

So the exegesis makes up info thats not in the Quran to explain the verses of the Quran ?

[@dqschannel]

LMAO that in 2024 thinking two bodies of water never mix.

[@waseemabbas5641]

Why don't you ask him for a debate?

[@3804Bob]

Really? Barzak means a dry land mass? But what about all those videos out there claiming it to be an invisible barrier even Zakir Naik said so. Who's fooling who here?

[@badatpseudoscience]

The point was that the child had taken that literally and that stood in the way of her scientific understanding of her world.

[@RodDJoyboy]

that man is a coward going to young girls like that

[@theastronomer5800]

As any Muslim would tell you, you should read the tafsirs to understand the Quran. Ibn Kathir, one of the greatest Islamic scholars says in his Tafsir on 25:53: "(Between them is a barrier which none of them can transgress.) meaning, He has placed a barrier of land between these two types of waters, so that they do not transgress upon each other...". Tafsir of Ibn Kathir on 55:19 says " The two seas are the fresh and salty waters, the former coming from running rivers." So, this verse is talking about a land barrier between two seas (al-Tabari and al-Qurtubi also speak of a land barrier). How is this something that Muhammad would have not known? There are seas around Arabia and the Arabs were great caravan traders, and traders who sailed the seas would observe cloudy water from rivers falling into seas thousands of years ago and could tase the different waters. Also, how Aristotle 1000 years before Muhammad knew and explained (in detail) why fresh and salt water don't mix? Did Muhammad explain WHY they don't mix? How did sailors for thousands of years before that, who traveled along rivers and seas and observed deltas of rivers, could not have said something similar upon seeing the boundary of sediment and fresh and salt water? Near Bahrain which has been famous for its pearl-fisheries for over 2000 years, there exist springs of sweet water at the bottom of the Gulf and one could also observe differences in fresh and salt water. Scientifically, this is not a barrier is of course because the fresh water does diffuse into salt water and mix, it's just not instantaneous. So, what point are you trying to make, because none such arguments are convincing to someone familiar with a bit of science, history and the Islamic sources.

[@sadatkhan2012]

Young one's weak one's untrained one's

[@tjo6252]

But the Nile and Mediterranean really aren't mixing they say due to difference in their densities and saltiness. Egypt would've been the worst place to live if the Nile mixed with mid sea, but bro. Mohammed Hijab likes old scholarly explanations 😂😂 not that it's a wrong approach or anything.

[@markorbit4752]

where do the nile and mediterranian meet?

[@think-islam-channel]

Look up haloclines. Amazing phenomenon.

[@khaledchatah3425]

1:22 if u know why he smiled u are laughing rn

[@matheen8574]

Nothing to write cuz I'm too early

[@shaswatsekhar4155]

:lmao: This is a new one and I have heard others... seriously bro?... now the continents/land is supposed to be the one separating sweet n salty water???

[@peachesncream_7237]

Btw this is not his tafseer this is the tafseer of the salaf

[@SabeerAbdulla]

Eh, no. It's not land masses being referred to here. It's referring to a halocline, look it up.

[@bleirdo_dude]

The truth of the Koran revealed as clear as the the bright blue sky. Only those addicted to lies will deny these transparent truths. 4.082 "Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity." Note: Pickthal (Marmaduke) translation is used because it's the most honest, and does not use the cheating brackets "[ ]" that later translations use to assert meanings to fit modern knowledge. Classical Arabic is a sloppy language since one word can be stuffed with many meanings (good for making words rhyme). 21.030 "Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water. Will they not then believe?" Muslim apologists point to this verse as evidence that knowledge of the Big Bang theory (the universe started out as a single point then expanded) is revealed, and the fact that we are made up of mostly water. Actually it's a vague reference to Genesis in the OT where the Earth was entirely covered in water (one piece/no creation out of nothing) which God separated, and brought life from the water. Genesis 1:1-2 (NRSV) "In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters." 1:6b "let it separate the waters from the waters." 1:20a "And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures," Both have man created with wet mud. 25.054a "And He it is Who hath created man from water," 23.012 "Verily We created man from a product of wet earth" Gen. 2:6b-:7a "water the whole face of the ground - then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground," The Koran though vague does mention terrestrial fresh, and salt water seas. 35.012 "And the two seas are not alike: this, fresh, sweet, good to drink, this (other) bitter, salt. And from them both ye eat fresh meat and derive the ornament that ye wear. And thou seest the ship cleaving them with its prow that ye may seek of His bounty, and that haply ye may give thanks." But what is the "forbidding ban between them", and "barrier between the two seas" in the Koran? 25.053 "And He it is Who hath given independence to the two seas (though they meet); one palatable, sweet, and the other saltish, bitter; and hath set a bar and a forbidding ban between them." 27.061 "Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and hath set a barrier between the two seas. Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!" 55.019-020 "He hath loosed the two seas. They meet. There is a barrier between them. They encroach not (one upon the other)." Muslim apologists like to cherry pick these verses to coincide with the modern discovery of density barriers found in the deepest oceans, or the discovery of deep earth fresh water aquifers. The truth is the Koran is talking about the molten glass dome firmament coming down 360° that separates and holds up the ocean of Heaven. For this is why the sky is blue and freshwater rain comes from the Heavens above because the creation mythmakers were ignorant of what we now know. Gen. 1:6a "And God said, “Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters," Just look at the light blue sky coming down meeting, but not mixing with the deep blue ocean on the horizon. 16.014a "And He it is Who hath constrained the sea..." 21.032 "And we have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents." Gen. 1:7 "So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so." Gen. 14a "And God said, “Let there be lights in the dome of the sky" Psalm 148:4-6 "Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens! Let them praise the name of the LORD, for he commanded and they were created. He established them forever and ever; he fixed their bounds, which cannot be passed." Proverbs 8:28-29 "when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth," Job 37:18 "Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?" Job 23:12, :14c “Is not God high in the heavens? See the highest stars, how lofty they are!" "...and he walks on the dome of heaven.’" 54.011 "Then opened We the gates of heaven with pouring water" Gen. 7:11d "...and the windows of the heavens were opened." 8:2bc "the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained," Isa. 24:18b "For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble." Also the Koran says (27.061) that the Earth is "a fixed abode" which affirms the OT. 1 Samuel 2:8b "For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world." Job 9:6c "...who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;" Psa. 75:3c, 82:5c, 102:25a, 104:5 "...it is I who keep its pillars steady.", "...all the foundations of the earth are shaken.", "Long ago you laid the foundation of the earth,", "You set the earth on its foundations, so that it shall never be shaken.". Job 26:7b "...and hangs the earth upon nothing." (Note: The Earth orbits by gravity which is not nothing) The Koran reflects ancient cosmology meanwhile apologists try to put a "what we now know" spin on it. Of course ancient people seen how vast the land and sky is. Both are using the argument from ignorance (look at everything therefore God did it as per Romans 1:20). 51.047-048 "We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof). And the earth have We laid out, how gracious is the Spreader (thereof)!" 91.006 "And the earth and Him Who spread it," Modern translations/apologists try to word the above to sound like the Big Bang, but it's just the OT God myth separating and stretching out what was already there (no creatio ex nihilo). Isa. 40:22 "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in;" Isa. 42:5a 5 "Thus says God, the LORD, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it," The moon gives it's own light. 71.016 "And hath made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp?" 25.061b "...and hath placed therein a great lamp and a moon giving light!" Gen. 1:16ab "God made the two great lights - the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night" The Sun has an orbit. 21.033bc "...the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit." 36.040 "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit." 55.005 "The sun and the moon are made punctual." Ecclesiastes 1:5 "The sun rises and the sun goes down, and hurries to the place where it rises." Joshua 10:12-14 "On the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the Lord; and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? *The sun stopped in midheaven, and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.* There has been no day like it before or since, when the Lord heeded a human voice; for the Lord fought for Israel." Psalm 19:1, :4c-6 "The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork.", "...In the heavens he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom from his wedding canopy, and like a strong man runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them; and nothing is hid from its heat." A Common Cosmology of the Ancient World www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/gre13.htm "Finally, it is worth pointing out that the world picture of the Jewish people, as reconstructed from various passages in the Bible, was essentially the same as that of the Egyptians and the Babylonians. ...The flat, disc-shaped Earth is surrounded by a sea; beneath the Earth, there are wells and fountains connected with the upper part of the Earth as well as with the great deep, called Tehom. The Earth rests on pillars, and above it is the sky or firmament. Waters are to be found not only on the Earth or beneath it, but also above the firmament." Helge S. Kragh, Conception of Cosmos, pp. 10

[@SabeerAbdulla]

@@bleirdo_dude nice copy paste job😂😂😂 Of course people will understand the verses differently in the light of modern discoveries. That's the whole point of having an Omniscient God reveal things humans don't know about, to prove that it came from an All Knowing Creator. Humans then understand that once they discover it in nature. That's how prophesies and predictions work. Humans aren't Omniscient, God is.

[@bleirdo_dude]

@@SabeerAbdulla Muslims apologists like to point to the Koran in that it explains layers of the Earth's atmosphere. In truth it describes ancient cosmological beliefs. 2.029b "...Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens." 41.012 "Then He ordained them seven heavens in two Days and inspired in each heaven its mandate; and We decked the nether heaven with lamps, and rendered it inviolable. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Knower." (See also 17.044, 23.017, 23.086, 65.012, 67.003, 71.015, 78.012) Today people consider Heaven as being in another dimension, but the ancients seen it in what we now call outer space. 2 Enoch 8:1 “And those men took me thence, and led me up on to the third heaven, and placed me there”. Apocalypse of Moses 38:4 “And … the Father of all … stretched out his hand, and took Adam and handed him over to the archangel Michael saying: ‘Lift him up into Paradise unto the third Heaven'”. 2 Corinthis 12:2-4 "I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven - whether in the body or out of the body I do not know; God knows." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Heavens "Closely associated with Kabbalah was the concept of the soul’s journey through the seven heavens, the Hekhalot-palaces-inhabited by the planetary powers, an enterprise which could result in profound insight into the nature of the cosmos, and that required personal purity, great discipline, and a detailed knowledge of the correct magical procedures." Nicholas Campion, Astrology and Cosmology in the Worlds Religions, pp. 145 25.061 *"a Blessed be He Who hath placed in the heaven mansions of the stars,"* "...ancient Babylonian world concept. ...The two central seven staged pyramids represent respectively the upper and lower halves of E-KUR, the earth. The seven dotted half circles above the earth represent the "seven heavens" of the planets; the corresponding hemispheres below the earth the "seven hells". The outermost sphere...the sphere girdled by the many mansioned Zodiac,... William F Warren, The Earliest Cosmologies, pp. 38-39 Muslim apologists say that the Koran predicts space exploration. But it's just Judgement Day where believers will be driven up to the Heavens, and disbelievers marched deep into the Earth each passing through their own gates (78.017-023, 39.073-074, 38.049-051, 7.040, 39.071-072, 15.043-44, 16.029). The Koran (15.016, 37.006, 41.012, 67.005, 85.001, 15.016-.018, 37.006-.010, 67.005) have shooting stars explained as projectiles sent by Allah to ward off devils that try to eavesdrop on his high council meetings with archangels. Apologists point to modern knowledge of cosmic phenomenon (gamma ray bursts/solar flares) to make the Koran look miraculous, but the Koran is talking about observable streaking meteors. Here's just a sampling of what the Koran is peppered with that's designed to keep people in cognitive bonds so as not to disbelieve. 4.082 "Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity." 5.086 "But those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, they are owners of hell- fire." 040.070-072 "Those who deny the Scripture and that wherewith We send Our messengers. But they will come to know, When carcans are about their necks and chains. They are dragged Through boiling waters; then they are thrust into the Fire." 16.104-105 "Lo! those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, Allah guideth them not and theirs will be a painful doom. Only they invent falsehood who believe not Allah's revelations, and (only) they are the liars." 2.006-007 "As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom." 2.039 "But they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2.099 "Verily We have revealed unto thee clear tokens, and only miscreants will disbelieve in them." 85.010 "Lo! they who persecute believing men and believing women and repent not, theirs verily will be the doom of hell, and theirs the doom of burning." 2.010 "In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie." 2.017b-018 "...Allah taketh away their light and leaveth them in darkness, where they cannot see, Deaf, dumb and blind; and they return not." 80.038-042 "On that day faces will be bright as dawn, Laughing, rejoicing at good news; And other faces, on that day, with dust upon them, Veiled in darkness, Those are the disbelievers, the wicked." Those who believe then disbelieve Islam actuality still believe, but are just under Allah's curse. LOL! 2.089 "And when there cometh unto them a scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession - though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved - and when there cometh unto them that which they know (to be the truth) they disbelieve therein. The curse of Allah is on disbelievers." 6.025 "Of them are some who listen unto thee, but We have placed upon their hearts veils, lest they should understand, and in their ears a deafness. If they saw every token they would not believe therein; to the point that, when they come unto thee to argue with thee, the disbelievers say: This is naught else than fables of the men of old." 17.046 "And We place upon their hearts veils lest they should understand it, and in their ears a deafness; and when thou makest mention of thy Lord alone in the Qur'an, they turn their backs in aversion." When the cognitive dissonance reaches an intolerable level the Muslim withdraws with declaration of "Peace", but they are calling you a fool. 25.063 "The (faithful) slaves of the Beneficent are they who walk upon the earth modestly, and when the foolish ones address them answer: Peace;" Psalm 14:1 "Fools say in their hearts, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is no one who does good." If a Muslim uses their left hand which is used for dirty chores (use your imagination) with you it's a subtle insult. 90.019 "But those who disbelieve Our revelations, their place will be on the left hand."

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@@SabeerAbdulla *Drug addictions, and thought addictions are closely related on a neurological level.* Some people are more beholden to the ancient part of the brain (Meso Limbic System/emotional) rather than someone that reasons using the modern part (Frontal Cortex/rational). Imagine the euphoria experienced by the average person for believing they won a million dollars on a scratch off ticket (it could be a joke ticket yet as long as they believe). Now imagine someone having the same sensations, but being convinced it's a paranormal contact for believing John 3:16. We evolved to seek pleasure (eating/reproduction), and avoid getting killed (tiger in the grass/competing neighbor/harsh enviroment). With our increased cognitive abilities we made up other reasons for pleasure, and survival beyond basic necessity. The Dopamine Reward System over time bridges gaps in pathways in order to form habits in order to repeat behaviors, and or thoughts. The often cited testimony of getting off an addiction thanks to a God is just a placebo replacement due to the power of the mind (an AA participant I heard of chose to worship the radiator in his room instead of an higher power, and became sober). "The second system, known as the mesolimbic system, has its cell bodies in the ventral tegmental area, which is medial to the substantia nigra. It projects to several parts of the limbic system, including the nucleus accumbens and ventral portions of the striatum, amygdala, and hippocampus, as well as prefrontal cortex. *This system has been linked to reward-related behavior (Berridge and Kringelbach, 2015). Dopamine levels in the nucleus accumbens increase in response to both natural reinforcers (such as food, drink, and sex) and drugs of abuse (such as amphetamine and cocaine). Additionally, in humans, activity in this region increases in response to more abstract rewards, such as money."* Marie T. Banich/Rebecca J. Compton, Cognitive Neuroscience, Section: Subsystems, pp. 2/3 *"Dopamine, in fact, is critical in association learning and the reward system of the brain that Skinner discovered through his process of operant conditioning, whereby any behavior that is reinforced tends to be repeated. A reinforcement is, by definition, something that is rewarding to the organism; that is to say, it makes the brain direct the body to repeat the behavior in order to get another positive reward.* ...The connection between dopamine and belief was established by experiments conducted by Peter Brugger and his colleague Christine Mohr at the University of Bristol in England. *Exploring the neurochemistry of superstition, magical thinking, and belief in the paranormal, Brugger and Mohr found that people with high levels of dopamine are more likely to find significance in coincidences and pick out meaning and patterns where there are none."* Michael Shermer, The Believing Brain, Section: 6 The Believing Neuron pp. 8-10/29 *"Genetic and behavioral factors influencing religiously motivated behavior appear related to dopamine metabolism and signaling. Inclination toward religious behavior and motivation has been associated with a polymorphism on the dopamine receptor gene DRD4 (Comings, Gonzales, Saucier, Johnson, & MacMurray, 2000;Sasaki et al., 2013). Acquired disorders of dopamine physiology also show links to religious behaviors."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478470/ *"Religious and spiritual experiences activate the brain reward circuits in much the same way as love, sex, gambling, drugs and music,* report researchers at the University of Utah School of Medicine." unews.utah.edu/this-is-your-brain-on-god/ "Dopamine, adrenaline, and noradrenaline are neurotransmitters that belong to the catecholamine family. Dopamine is produced in the substantia nigra and ventral tegmental regions of the brain, and *dopamine alterations are related to schizophrenia (1, 2). ...The “original dopamine hypothesis” states that hyperactive dopamine transmission results in schizophrenic symptoms."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032934/ *"Dopamine In schizophrenia (SCZ), there is evidence that very high levels of dopamine in the limbic system play a major role in emergence of hallucinations and delusions. Antipsychotic medications, which block central dopamine activity, alleviate the hallucinations of psychosis. Drugs with strong dopaminergic effect, such as L-dopa, methylphenidate, bromocriptine, pramipexole and piribedil, may induce hallucinations. D-amphetamine, a direct dopamine agonist, may also induce psychosis and hallucinations."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996210/ *"Here, we show that administration of a drug that enhances dopaminergic function (dihydroxy-L-phenylalanine; L-DOPA) increases an optimism bias. This effect is due to L-DOPA impairing the ability to update belief in response to undesirable information about the future."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3424419/ "Tibetan mystics have long practiced a method to create sentient beings (Tulpas) from the power of concentrated thought." Note: These (Tulpas) are not sentient beings, but a manifestation of the subconscious mind through neural plasticity via neurochemical imbalancing inducing meditation. In other words it's having a dream state while awake, and interacting with a character that's made up of one's own preformed thoughts (building blocks of ideas/concepts that are below conscious awareness) which gives the illusion of sentience. In simpler words it's self induced schizophrenia due to stresses (psychological/physical/environmental) where neurochemical traffic gets rerouted causing hallucinations to any of the five senses, also including involuntary movement, and distorted speech (glossolalia). www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_ca/article/exmqzz/tulpamancy-internet-subculture-892 Ancient people did not know the neurosciences. Philo of Alexandria thought that joy came from Heaven by way of God's chief archangel the "Divine Word/Right Reason (Logos)". ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book 2 "XXXVII ...And *who can pour over the happy soul which proffers its own reason as the most sacred cup, the holy goblets of true joy, except the cup-bearer of God, the master of the feast, the Word?"* ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION, III "LX *...the soul very often, when it is delighted, is yet unable to explain what it is that has delighted it; but it is taught by the hierophant and prophet Moses, who tells it, “This is the bread, the food which God has given for the Soul, (Exo. **16:15**)” explaining that God has brought it, his own Word and his own Reason; for this bread which he has given us to eat is this Word of his."* The High Priest's headdress had a crown made of a plant known for it's hallucinogenic properties at which a golden plate covered the forehead. On said golden plate was inscribed sacred characters for the name of God. Josephus: THE ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS, BOOK 3, CHAPTER 7 (172-178), CONCERNING THE GARMENTS ...OF THE HIGH PRIEST "6. The high priest's mitre was the same that we described before, and was wrought like that of all the other priests; above which there was another, with swathes of blue embroidered, and round it was a golden crown polished, of three rows, one above another; out of which arose a cup of gold, which resembled the herb which we call Saccharus: *but those Greeks that are skilful in botany call it Hyoscyamus. ...Now the fruit is preserved by this coat of the calyx, which fruit is like the seed of the herb Sideritis: it sends out a flower that may seem to resemble that of poppy. Of this was a crown made, as far as from the hinder part of the head to each of the temples; but this Ephielis, for so this calyx may be called, did not cover the forehead, but it was covered with a golden plate, which had inscribed upon it the name of God in sacred characters. And such were the ornaments of the high priest."* *Hyoscyamus Niger* " ...was historically used..., *as well as for its psychoactive properties in "magic brews". These psychoactive properties include visual hallucinations and a sensation of flight. ...The plant, recorded as Herba Apollinaris, was used to yield oracles by the priestesses of Apollo.* " en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscyamus_niger Scrambled neurochemistry is insight to another realm for some people. The Holy Dopamine Ghost (Thoughts are addictive) kzbin.info/aero/PLQATeZAnm87BaJjBtM1vMIq_gHRmBq3ie Scripture is designed to keep people in the thought addiction, and shut out from the group those that question. "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov. 1:7) "In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." "but when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed." (2 Cor. 4:4, 3:16) "As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom." (Quran 2.006-.007) "Fools say in their hearts, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is no one who does good." (Psa. 14:1) "but whoever blasphemes against the *Holy Dopamine Ghost* can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin" (Mark 3:29) i.imgflip.com/1ydvtk.jpg

[@SabeerAbdulla]

@@bleirdo_dude 😂😂😂 again, excellent copy paste job. The fact that you're using Christian biblical sources to try and debunk Islam and Quran is hilarious. All you do is take a superficially similar verse and then take a huge jump off to the Christian sources and then act like they're all the same. They aren't. And yes, human psychology will be taken into account by an All Knowing Creator. Duh.

[@EnosMutio]

Give the devil his dues...Dawkins debts theologians

[@bangladesh408]

which tafsir u reffer. Again lying by Hijab to save Quran

[@peachesncream_7237]

He isn’t lying this is the tafseer of most of the salaf such as alqurtubi, alsaadi, altabari , ibn katheer, and so on

[@studdot4748]

These atheists and insincere Christians have no same.

[@godisgreat1786]

This is BS apologetics squared 😂😂😂😂

[@pelomocho8567]

its true, muslims dont pick on weak christians and tries to persuade them that bible is wrong.....aka sheyk uthman

[@pelomocho8567]

dawkins, you didnt make an attempt! to read the verse and find an excuse that would make it fit as to not disprove how ridiculos the verse is!!

[@abdullahifarah5878]

He seems so adamant about evolution. Evolution is good don't get me wrong. At least microevolution. But people like him go for children and not actual theologians.

[@rolandmccarthy1780]

What mechanism would prevent micro to macro?

[@abdullahifarah5878]

@@rolandmccarthy1780 Idk what you mean. We can observe micro. Can bacteria not instantly adapt overtime? My problem with macro is that we don't see it happen when it's supposed to be a longer process. It doesn't change my religious beliefs. It's more personal than that. Science is wonderful.

[@abdullahifarah5878]

@@mdstate829 That's oddly convenient. If that's the case, then the concept of a creator being behind the Universe being made shouldn't be dismissed easily.

[@kingeddiam2543]

​@@abdullahifarah5878macro evolution can be seen in the fossil record and can be inferred from phenomena like island dwarfism and island gigantism. Evolution is almost certainly true

[@cyberyousef7519]

They aren’t children, but muslims with less knowledge

[@Mirror_Holder]

what a coward, rejects debates with academics on one hand and 'bully' kids on the other hand

[@OriginalAndroidPhone]

Richard The Coward Heart

[@appearances9250]

Richard Dorkins.... Get it right please 😂

[@bleirdo_dude]

The truth of the Koran revealed as clear as the the bright blue sky. Only those addicted to lies will deny these transparent truths. 4.082 "Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity." Note: Pickthal (Marmaduke) translation is used because it's the most honest, and does not use the cheating brackets "[ ]" that later translations use to assert meanings to fit modern knowledge. Classical Arabic is a sloppy language since one word can be stuffed with many meanings (good for making words rhyme). 21.030 "Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water. Will they not then believe?" Muslim apologists point to this verse as evidence that knowledge of the Big Bang theory (the universe started out as a single point then expanded) is revealed, and the fact that we are made up of mostly water. Actually it's a vague reference to Genesis in the OT where the Earth was entirely covered in water (one piece/no creation out of nothing) which God separated, and brought life from the water. Genesis 1:1-2 (NRSV) "In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters." 1:6b "let it separate the waters from the waters." 1:20a "And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures," Both have man created with wet mud. 25.054a "And He it is Who hath created man from water," 23.012 "Verily We created man from a product of wet earth" Gen. 2:6b-:7a "water the whole face of the ground - then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground," The Koran though vague does mention terrestrial fresh, and salt water seas. 35.012 "And the two seas are not alike: this, fresh, sweet, good to drink, this (other) bitter, salt. And from them both ye eat fresh meat and derive the ornament that ye wear. And thou seest the ship cleaving them with its prow that ye may seek of His bounty, and that haply ye may give thanks." But what is the "forbidding ban between them", and "barrier between the two seas" in the Koran? 25.053 "And He it is Who hath given independence to the two seas (though they meet); one palatable, sweet, and the other saltish, bitter; and hath set a bar and a forbidding ban between them." 27.061 "Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and hath set a barrier between the two seas. Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!" 55.019-020 "He hath loosed the two seas. They meet. There is a barrier between them. They encroach not (one upon the other)." Muslim apologists like to cherry pick these verses to coincide with the modern discovery of density barriers found in the deepest oceans, or the discovery of deep earth fresh water aquifers. The truth is the Koran is talking about the molten glass dome firmament coming down 360° that separates and holds up the ocean of Heaven. For this is why the sky is blue and freshwater rain comes from the Heavens above because the creation mythmakers were ignorant of what we now know. Gen. 1:6a "And God said, “Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters," Just look at the light blue sky coming down meeting, but not mixing with the deep blue ocean on the horizon. 016.014a "And He it is Who hath constrained the sea..." Gen. 1:7 "So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so." Gen. 14a "And God said, “Let there be lights in the dome of the sky" Psalm 148:4-6 "Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens! Let them praise the name of the LORD, for he commanded and they were created. He established them forever and ever; he fixed their bounds, which cannot be passed." Proverbs 8:28-29 "when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth," Job 37:18 "Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?" Job 23:12, :14c “Is not God high in the heavens? See the highest stars, how lofty they are!" "...and he walks on the dome of heaven.’" 54.011 "Then opened We the gates of heaven with pouring water" Gen. 7:11d "...and the windows of the heavens were opened." 8:2bc "the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained," Isa. 24:18b "For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble." Also the Koran says (27.061) that the Earth is "a fixed abode" which affirms the OT. 1 Samuel 2:8b "For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world." Job 9:6c "...who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;" Psa. 75:3c, 82:5c, 102:25a, 104:5 "...it is I who keep its pillars steady.", "...all the foundations of the earth are shaken.", "Long ago you laid the foundation of the earth,", "You set the earth on its foundations, so that it shall never be shaken.". Job 26:7b "...and hangs the earth upon nothing." (Note: The Earth orbits by gravity which is not nothing) The Koran reflects ancient cosmology meanwhile apologists try to put a "what we now know" spin on it. Of course ancient people seen how vast the land and sky is. Both are using the argument from ignorance (look at everything therefore God did it as per Romans 1:20). 051.047-048 "We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof). And the earth have We laid out, how gracious is the Spreader (thereof)!" 91.006 "And the earth and Him Who spread it," Modern translations/apologists try to word the above to sound like the Big Bang, but it's just the OT God myth separating and stretching out what was already there (no creatio ex nihilo). Isa. 40:22 "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in;" Isa. 42:5a 5 "Thus says God, the LORD, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it," The moon gives it's own light. 71.016 "And hath made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp?" 25.061b "...and hath placed therein a great lamp and a moon giving light!" Gen. 1:16ab "God made the two great lights - the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night" The Sun has an orbit. 21.033bc "...the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit." 36.040 "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit." 55.005 "The sun and the moon are made punctual." Ecclesiastes 1:5 "The sun rises and the sun goes down, and hurries to the place where it rises." Joshua 10:12-14 "On the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the Lord; and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? *The sun stopped in midheaven, and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.* There has been no day like it before or since, when the Lord heeded a human voice; for the Lord fought for Israel." Psalm 19:1, :4c-6 "The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork.", "...In the heavens he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom from his wedding canopy, and like a strong man runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them; and nothing is hid from its heat." A Common Cosmology of the Ancient World www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/gre13.htm "Finally, it is worth pointing out that the world picture of the Jewish people, as reconstructed from various passages in the Bible, was essentially the same as that of the Egyptians and the Babylonians. ...The flat, disc-shaped Earth is surrounded by a sea; beneath the Earth, there are wells and fountains connected with the upper part of the Earth as well as with the great deep, called Tehom. The Earth rests on pillars, and above it is the sky or firmament. Waters are to be found not only on the Earth or beneath it, but also above the firmament." Helge S. Kragh, Conception of Cosmos, pp. 10

[@theultimatessj1965]

Richard Dawkins is a freaking hypocrite.

[@yahyawahid9451]

Dawkins is best

[@mahadism7455]

How weird of Richard dawkins.

[@UsmanKhan-ov4fj]

What's "weird" about it?

[@mahadism7455]

@@UsmanKhan-ov4fj he’s asking school children complex questions to score points against theology. Its not just weird its very weird.

[@UsmanKhan-ov4fj]

@@mahadism7455 Hmm interesting. I didn't think he asked any "complex" questions. He wanted to know what science the children are being taught so he just directly asked them. There was no confrontation at all. But maybe we just all see it differently I guess.

[@mahadism7455]

@@UsmanKhan-ov4fj Thats can be a complex question especially if you’re gonna make comments about “elbowing out” science afterwards. His intentions were clear the only reason he got away with any of it is because he was sitting infront of people who couldn’t YET put him in his place. Like he would have been had he visited someone who is trained in the field.

[@UsmanKhan-ov4fj]

@@mahadism7455 OK

[@themsmloveswar3985]

It all started in Petra, Jordan.....

[@springwellssw]

Do you have a twin brother. One with long hair and one with short. Lol

[@antormosabbir4750]

কলাবিজ্ঞানীদের দায়ী!

[@islamtrack1389]

Untrained one's....... You know what's coming after that🤣

[@notionSlave]

So now you're saying the verse means that it's the land mass separates the seas.... Yet we both know that's not what the verse means. lol... 'He released the two seas,1 meeting [one another];' *meeting* Seems like you're not putting much effort into this videos.

[@abusayam6508]

You are saying about the verse 19!😂😂 did you check the Verse 20 of the same Chapter?😂 people are so excited to prove wrong that they forgot to check the main Verse !!

[@abusayam6508]

Okay let me help you😂

[@abusayam6508]

55__19 English - Sahih International He released the two seas, meeting [side by side];

[@abusayam6508]

55__20 English - Sahih International Between them is a barrier [so] neither of them transgresses.

[@abusayam6508]

😂😂for your kind information check both of them from any Quran

[@Rafm1236]

goes for children, eww

[@cyberyousef7519]

Not children, they are adults since they are wearing the hijab

[@royanmartinezcastillo3725]

Richard Dawkins is a coward.

[@devandev1134]

Beliving in flying donkey.. What kind of people 😂😂😂😂..