Sapphire Pulse with Radeon RX 6600 XT

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[@JimmyBlimps]

This card and all the other 6600xt's appear to be a fantastic choice for us Aussies who have been suffering particularly bad from this market, stock appears to be strong so far and prices are close to msrp for the PowerColor and Sapphire Pulse variants which is a breath of fresh air with 3060's going for $1000+. Just picked up the Sapphire Pulse model for $630 ($40 over Australian MSRP) to stick in my new rig that's been powering a long with integrated graphics. Happy to hear it's a quiet card too, that was really important for me when putting together my build. Cheers Wendell, also yes please deliver us excellent OBS support. It's too late now, you gotta do it.

[@akcsegamedev]

In my country as well its close to 5700 XT base model MSRP which indicates good supply and is in stock after 2.5 hours

[@Deathwing2]

Same in NZ! The Sapphire Pulse is $639, versus $800 for a 2060 Super or $1000 for a 3060

[@JimmyBlimps]

@@Deathwing2 It's insane right? I've been watching gpu prices every day for about a month and while they've come down a hair, they've all been totally unjustifiable. Even a GTX 1660 costs more at $699. I told myself before the launch of the 6600 xt that if this thing falls between $550 and $650 I'm jumping on it, and I'm glad to see it's gone that way at least in our neck of the woods.

[@Deathwing2]

@@JimmyBlimps even crazier, when the 5600G launched here, the 5600X was briefly CHEAPER. Now the X is $50 more than the G. It makes zero sense.

[@fireinside1984]

The RX580 lives another day.

[@1969kilroy]

My xfx rx 580 xxx with 8 gigs is still working strong.

[@fireinside1984]

@@1969kilroy Mine too :)

[@kratos218]

Sapphire nitro+ still hanging in there. 1440p on god of war high settings ~50fps.

[@KubeSquared]

I just got one (Red Devil variant) for close to MSRP, which for Eastern Europe part of EU is just a miracle. The 6700XT is close to 175% of MSRP.

[@Buzz_Killington]

Yeah it's crazy, saw a 6600xt for ~500 CND and the same 6700xt model for ~1000 CND

[@Myth05]

Enjoy!

[@TerraWare]

Its what I've been telling people that msrp means very little these days because if the prices weren't twisted most people would get a 3060Ti for an extra $20 but 3060Ti's sell for $700 or more and 3060's for $600 so if the 6600 XT can be had for $400 to 500 that's a good deal, for these days anyway.

[@TranceHistorian]

I was gonna go for the Red Devil but I managed to find the Sapphire Nitro+ bit cheaper.

[@camotech1314]

@@Buzz_Killington Canadians usually get shafted with prices on everything. Isn't it easier to just pop over the border to the US and buy what you want?

[@jeeveseventynine9263]

DO IT Wendell! Give us a working OSB that doesn't kill our frames.

[@relsre]

2nd this, for real! It's astounding how we still can't record with AMD's hardware encoder by default (without plugins e.g. StreamFX) in OBS, let alone encode in h.265, which provides huge space savings on top of the performance benefits.

[@TranceHistorian]

@@relsre yup this is where NVENC from Nvidia is winning.

[@CarbonPanther]

Well the 6600XT did manage to stay at the 380€ MSRP in germany! For 45 minutes... which is a new record for this gen i guess but its already at 480€ and definitely gonna cost over 550€ like the 3060 by the end of the day sooo...

[@Fantomyy]

I’m ordering one next week for €679 from germany. I’ve been waiting for over a year for a gpu and I’m kind of done with it so far

[@Deathwing2]

Locally (NZ) the 2060 Super is $800. The Sapphire Pulse 6600XT is $639. Seems like a pretty good deal right now!

[@ElBlancoBoss]

managed to get one Supphire Pulse at MSRP for £360. unfortunately most of them are sold out now

[@Monsiemage]

Got one for below MSRP. Don't regret it. Sapphire has always made the best overall Radeon cards.

[@bencanty980]

You're right on the money. All these other tech tubers whining about the price, and rightly so, but we're in different market conditions than we have been before. I appreciate you evaluating the card just as it is.

[@hannesdutoit7203]

Got an ex-mining XFX RX6600XT off marketplace for 200usd 3 months ago, bargain of the century, and hasn't let me down yet.

[@45eno]

Just bought six red Devil 6600xt for $770. $128 each . All work great.

[@reto.]

4:50 I believe you :)

[@camotech1314]

Well I was gonna get this card for £379 but before I was ready stock was gone. So I had to settle for Sapphire Nitro+ 6600XT at £400, same card now costs £550+ in some places. Great card for entry level 1440p with high refresh rate!

[@goblinphreak2132]

So, you have 3 cards.... All i can think about is crossfire both by 2 and by 3 testing results. Yeah i know sli/crossfire really isnt supported anymore. But if you got the itch, try it out. Way back when I opted for sli 8600gts over a single card for the same total price and it was dope as hell.

[@karehaqt]

Is it just me or are GPU reviews getting shorter? Are they not getting the views they once got due to a huge amount of people being priced out of the market?

[@derekjcooper]

Um... what else would you want to hear?

[@FR1S0N]

Maybe because there's nothing new in this market (besides marketing scams) for the past few years?...

[@derekjcooper]

Agreed @@FR1S0N - here is the GPU, here are its specs, go buy one if you can find one... period.

[@derekjcooper]

I agree with everything@@somehow_not_helpfulATcrap but do question the comment "Wendell has a day job." Others work in his office, he has fun, as it should be!

[@butifarras]

GPU gentrification!

[@Brettjet4realz]

I'm so frustrated by the market, I see all of these types of videos about MSRP cost of video cards being $250-$400, but the only video cards I see available to buy are a MINIMUM of $1,000. It's so discouraging seeing overpriced hardware when I've been saving up money for a custom PC :(

[@johanCferreira]

Hope the 6600XT doesn't have the reset bug on Unraid like my RX 5600 XT.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

Is that the PCIe bug? I'm pretty sure AMD fixed it with RDNA2

[@bertnijhof5413]

That RX 6600XT real price is 1.5 x the price of my whole Ryzen desktop with my Ryzen 3 2200G; 16GB and 512GB nvme-SSD. Thanks AMD, I keep playing Wolfenstein 3D and SuperTuxKart on my APU.

[@1BigBen]

but on the APU you are running on Vega with just dedicated memory allocation of 2GB ddr4 but with a RX 6600XT you play Return to Castle Wolfenstein in style 😁😂🤡

[@SaschTheDash]

But Can it run Crysis?

[@1BigBen]

@@SaschTheDash honestly it would by fun to see in 2015 LTT did a test 980Ti 91 fps at 1080p TSMC 28 nm 601 mm2 now in guru3d test power consumption 250 Watts GTX 980Ti 6GB 12x500MB chip GDDR5 384 bit bus Bandwidth 336GB/s TSMC 7 nm 237 mm2 160 watts TBP Total Board Power RX 6600XT 8GB 4x2GB chip GDDR6 128 bit bus Bandwidth 256 GB/s and the Bandwidth boost of the Infinity Cache

[@bertnijhof5413]

@@1BigBen I like Wolfenstein 3D! Besides I don't want to pay 1.5 times the price of the complete PC for a mediocre video card.

[@1BigBen]

@@bertnijhof5413 well I understand it well, I played it a lot as a kid on 486 and at first with just a 4MB ram later on I put in another 4MB stick and it was like a new game

[@mosamaster]

Sapphire trixx is an amazing tech which needs to be usable for other amd cards too. This model is priced as 1200 USD in India by scalping online traders.

[@regieds]

I got this card for $200 in January 2023, great budget card!

[@neeraj_hk]

I have a Sapphire Pulse 5600XT and it's fantastic, looking forward to watching this review! Early comment!

[@lamikal2515]

I've a 5700XT variant and it's rock solid since 2 years. Bought it for $360 (+10 than MSRP). The saddest part of all this is that 6600XT still trades blows with it...2 years later... for $30 more MSRP...

[@TranceHistorian]

Man I hope you get a Nitro+ for review 😌

[@AdmV0rl0n]

1080p gaming is so weird now, as that's what people do to bench their processors. So in a weird way, imbalances get treated oddly...

[@vantruongsinh]

It is on sale now at $625AUD

[@pyroromancer]

Wendell how well does this run FFXIV benchmark?

[@DennisGr]

there, i bought it. i am sick and tired of my 1060. what did i pay? 430 including shipping and taxes. of course i dreamt of a bigger upgrade, of course a 3080 would be better, but i think that was a good deal.

[@Izeezus]

Level1Techs, were you able to update your 6600 drivers with success? My PC blackscreens everytime I try updating, and I have a fresh install of Windows with nothing downloaded, so I have no previous AMD drivers

[@CessarVillarreal]

can i combine this card with a core i3 10gen?

[@camotech1314]

Yes🤟

[@BinaryStew]

I got a 6600xt for Mary at micro center in Houston

[@ramanmono]

And they're gone...

[@kortaffel]

6600 XT Sapphire Pulse: 460€, Nitro: 500€ in Germany including Vat. Retailprice. 500€ are 587$US as of today.

[@Nobe_Oddy]

I don't want to tell you how to do thing, but that SECOND CAMERA ANGLE (around 0:59 ) looks WAY BETTER than your main camera... like TWICE AS GOOD!! Maybe you're not using it as camera #1 because of the sound or something, but I HIGHLY RECOMMEND you switch to using it as the MAIN SHOOTER - IT LOOKS AMAZING, and the first cam... ehhh not so much... kinda like its just upscaling 1080p to 4K... but that second camera is *MUAH* (insert cartoonishly racist Italian guy with floppy white chefs hat and tiny handle bar moustache that is kissing his fingers LOL) like I said, not trying to tell you how to do thing, I just wanna help :)

[@drakeb6168]

Since GPU market has gotten worse. I bit the dust on this a month or so ago and honestly am happy with the performance.

[@HenriNero]

I'd probably order one, if I could afford it, even at the msrp😆

[@badass6300]

This card and most other cards that AMD came out with this generation, along with a a lot of Nvidia cards are rip-offs at MSRP.

[@haukionkannel]

@@badass6300 and better value than 3060… this is faster than 3060 and about $50 to $100 cheaper than 3060… it does nit make this good value, but it is better than we get enywhere else at this moment… pity but true…

[@badass6300]

@@haukionkannel it's 50$ more expensive than the rtx 3060. And don't lower your standards just because the market is whack or the companies are directly overcharging for their products.

[@Lennox032]

@@badass6300 I know right gone are the days of a 250 card

[@badass6300]

@@Lennox032 Gone are the days of the 200$ card. There are two reasons for that: 1. GDDR6 costs 12$ per GB of RAM as of 2020 and it's more expensive now, but unknown by how much. 2. The current 9th gen of consoles are very strong. 1. With GDDR6(X) costing a minimum of 12$ per GB the rtx 3060's 12GB of VRAM cost 144$ alone, compared to the 4GB GDDR5 of the rx 480/580 which cost 22$, you can see how the rtx 3060 easily hits 120$ extra over the 200$ at the time rtx 480/580. The rtx 3060 is overpriced only by 20$, the MSRP should be 310$ 2. Due to the 8th gen consoles coming out underpowered, three years later, low-end GPUs like the gtx 1060 3/6GB, rx 580/570 were excellent and cheap at the same time, especially the rx 580/570. Now that the PS5 has a GPU equivalent close to the RX 6700xt and the Xbox Series X has a GPU close equivalent to the RX6800 non-XT, you need at least a 25% stronger GPU than those consoles to get the same performance at the same resolution and graphics settings of new games.

[@murdoch9106]

I have a Gigabyte 2060 Super... its AWEFUL, it sounds terrible. I want to replace it under warranty and get this thing but as much as I love AMD and I have mostly ran AMD cards for the past 10 years, recent issues has scared me a little. Navi cards has been nothing but a problem. I had a 5700 last year and I had to send it back and get the 2060 Super, a card that has been very stable, but the cooler vibrate it self to death and runs very hot. I can get this card right now and not pay a dime more for it but dare I? Will MSFS2020 work that I play a lot right now... I dont know... this is so frustrating... My RX580 from MSI that I had till last year was great, the R9 390 Nitro+ card I had before that was pretty decent as well. Especially cooling wise.

[@PyroCatus]

Not available in my country yet, but considering that the 3060 is $600 i doubt these will be anything less than that.

[@ccleorina]

Here this GPU price after convert to USD is 629$ omg.

[@stevehinton5300]

I need to use a video card for 4 - 4k 32" monitors just for charts for day trading.. nothing fast like gaming.. Would this work for that..?? Thanks..!!

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

I bought the Pulse 5600 XT for $300 back when the pandemic was about to take off. Would love to see some comparison between the two cards, but this doesn't seem to be the place. For 26% more money, am I getting 26% more performance?

[@zjunk4877]

Check hardware unboxed

[@basook6116]

I would wait

[@FoxyCAMTV]

Its a good god damn card.

[@itsdeonlol]

You can't buy this card nowhere online... It's sold out...

[@onajaggedsky]

In stock @ Newegg for hours this morning @ $490

[@miirux9908]

Hey, is there any known driver issues with this graphics card ? Becuase i bought a new one, and i have driver crashes and black screens, and it gets worse with trixx boost, i only get image when i'm in safe mode, or without drivers. Edit: i did ddu and reinstalled the drivers several times, did a bios update, changed the monitor, changed the hdmi cablez tried a display port cable, i even formatted my pc, but nothing solved the problem, btw i had an rx 580 before and it was working perfectly

[@MotoguyX5]

I installed this GPU in an HP system with a 4700G and have been having all sorts of weird crashes and driver issues myself. I've owned multiple AMD GPUs over the years and never had this many problems. At this point I'm not sure if it's my motherboard, the GPU, or something wonky with my Windows installation.

[@camotech1314]

@@MotoguyX5 really? That sucks! 😔 My Nitro+ has been almost flawless. Although I don't use the Trixx software at all, only AMD. Did you try disabling APU graphics? I run mine with a 5600X and it's been a heavenly pairing.

[@MotoguyX5]

@@camotech1314 yea it sucks because in gaming it was amazing, it was faster than my old Vega 56 for half the power draw. Ended up swapping for a 3060

[@camotech1314]

@@MotoguyX5 yeah the 6600XT is more efficient than my old 1060 and gives way better performance! I'm glad you managed to get a 3060.

[@MotoguyX5]

@@camotech1314 yea, I had signed up for the EVGA queue on launch and got the email notification like a day after writing that comment. Got it for msrp $330, super grateful, eve though it is a small step down from the 6600xt

[@dan8t669]

No way a 500W PSU is needed.

[@ellsworth1956]

My 3700XT COU base system with this card barely breaks 300 W at the plug!

[@TranceHistorian]

I am so close to getting the Gigabyte 6600XT Eagle for about £400, it's crazy people are buying the 2060/1660ti/super but not the 6600XT. I've also looked at the cheaper PowerColour Fighter 6600XT but it looks really flimsy and tacky. Not nice.

[@TranceHistorian]

Managed to order the 6600XT Nitro+ 👌

[@dkat1108]

Power Color, XFX , and Sapphire Out of these 3 companies who would you trust more to build a solid card?

[@tropicbliss1198]

Idk but I had a Sapphire Pulse 5600XT. Solid card, solid performance, no issues with it whatsoever.

[@Yulad_A]

Sapphire > Power Color > XFX

[@haukionkannel]

I agree! Saphire > power Color > xfx..

[@dkat1108]

Thanks guys for the tip...

[@reuseful2839]

ominous music

[@markhaus]

Wish I could be more excited about an AMD GPU because they’re ultimately better for Linux systems but aside from being a fairly power efficient card it’s a moderate value at MSRP, but it’s hardly worth it at street price

[@johndoh5182]

At the time this was released I think AMD was a little low on a realistic MSRP, and certainly the higher quality 6600 XTs aren't going to be anywhere near that price. If the tariff on GPUs were to go away on the other hand, the MSRP is very possible since I believe AMD baked in that cost to MSRP. I could even see lower end models dropping down to $350. But Biden wants his taxes and he claims it's bringing manufacturing back to the US, even though that means paying more for products while imports are taxed to ensure they cost more than domestic products, which for the consumer is worse.

[@h0r3z]

how is it not the miner's fault if they are the one that is buying 100 GPUs per person..? and if they can't get it for retail, they just buy it at higher price from scalpers to mine because they can make the money back.

[@b0stj4n]

Every reviewer is talking about the shipping costs, like this is something new... WTF. Like all of them are defending them in this point of view.

[@zjunk4877]

Especially when AMD just posted record profits while spouting excuses about high costs, like we're all stupid.

[@1BigBen]

the rise of shipping cost plays part at every level of the process of making a GPU and not just shipping it out to stores and since started of covid the docks are full and every shipping on lanes land, air and sea are maxed out, with the worlds biggest companies fighting over every shipping pallet out of china and south koura, oh and I like to remind you the R&D cost is not in the MSRP for gamers, it is the Pro card users and data center that pays that bill.

[@MegaKootz]

OUT OF STOCK.

[@DaivaDavino]

i got a 10400f and 16gigs of ram with 4 fans 1 liquid cooling with 2 fans 1 ssd and one hard drive would i be able to use this with my evga 500br?

[@RatanSuthar]

This Graphic is giving me Black screen when i'm installing AMD Display drivers :( This is so frustrating now, i did everything possible for solution.

[@turbo_wrath]

do they have samsung memory? and can do zero rpm with fan curve

[@Skulka]

Mine has Samsung memory and yes, it does zero rpm out of the box

[@skellentor]

Just got one to upgrade from my old 1650 super. Much better!! Well worth the $419.

[@eddietours3728]

5:04 lol

[@dimaxxx]

helppp... i got black screen when installing this card. it went black after around 50% progress. ive done everything what ppl done: windows update, bios update. ddu, amdCleanUp. my quick specs: intel i5-9400f, asrock b365 pro4, 16gb ram corsair, psu 550watt 80 bronze.

[@prodbywish]

usually when you get a gpu you want the brands to match. So if you have an intel CPU, get an intel supported card, if you have an amd CPU, get an amd supported card.

[@jamesbuccino376]

literally everywhere already sold out of 6600 xt's online the only place I can find with any gpu's in stock is microcenter if you're willing to drive like an hr plus to the closest one to you

[@pyroromancer]

the nearest microcenter to me is a 10h flight! then a 1h drive from the airport :E

[@ianbruene1529]

Uh..... you realize they haven't started selling them yet, right?

[@jamesbuccino376]

@@pyroromancer wtf really ? that's super sad face I'm sorry :( we should petition microcenter to have more stores in the US lol Hopefully you didn't want a rx 6600 xt xD

[@eTeeGaming]

has anyone tried gaming with this GPU in iracing/AC/ACC/racing games on triple monitor setup?

[@asdf51501]

Today's Newegg Shuffle is all 6600XTs, at various prices from $379 up to I think over $500.

[@haukionkannel]

Nice prices! For this year…

[@davidg2731]

Got the Sapphire Pulse for $379 with free shipping from Newegg on the shuffle - the only time I have won this - must have a large supply!

[@asdf51501]

@@haukionkannel True! Though the GPU itself is pretty underwhelming.

[@asdf51501]

@@davidg2731 Congrats! Only time I won I was able to get a 5950x. Now they’re generally available. 👍🏻

[@liquiddnb1305]

375 pounds in England and the stock is very high.

[@eczywizzy603]

is this good for 1440p? planning to get this so i can buy bfield new game

[@allansh828]

Any half-length SKU?

[@CirynthLighthammer]

ASRock is supposedly making one for ITX cases. Per their website, it's named AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT Challenger ITX 8GB

[@blacksheepshepherd]

who says its not the fault of AIBs, Nvidia, AMD, Scalpers, Retailers, Miners ? Wake up dude...

[@mikesilver9285]

do it

[@Socalatreyu1]

Best Buy sold out before launch. Newegg sold out when I hit add to cart.

[@ianbruene1529]

Newegg isn't selling them outside the shuffle, but nice try.

[@Socalatreyu1]

@@ianbruene1529 i see I see. Noice!

[@SaschTheDash]

I got one for 399€ in Germany 😍

[@gscheben123]

Wait for the 7800XT at double the frame rate of the 6800XT for $650!

[@haukionkannel]

You mean $1650… you forget one number! And you also mean 30% faster than previous model. Thatbis the normal increase if we are lucky. Less if are less lucky. Douple? Aaaa. You mean douple the 5700xt performance. That is believeable!

[@WineLad]

Don't forget your brand new 1000 watt psu

[@theshadowduke]

I'm rolling a Vegas 56, is this a decent upgrade for me for 1440?

[@Ricky-nq7lu]

I'm rolling a ASUS RX5700XT and that sweet with 1440p as 78fps is my lowest rate of any of the games I play.

[@butifarras]

I'm also on a 56 pulse and it's been fine at 1440p, though they are selling for 650+ so you can maybe upgrade for free if you can find a new card, althoug I would go for something higher end than a 6600xt

[@tanmaypanadi1414]

this card is not the right fit for 1440p atleast that what hardware unboxed review said. I am still listening to this one

[@akcsegamedev]

Probably a 6700 XT or better is a better upgrade for you

[@haukionkannel]

@@tanmaypanadi1414 when compare to 3060ti it is not. When compared to 3060 this is just in par so this is fine gpu for 1440p gaming cheaper than 3060, faster at 1080p same speed at 1440p and in 4K it lose to 3060. To normal gamer 6600xt is better deal. If you want to game 4K… Well you need something bigger than 3060 or 6600xt.

[@Gunni1972]

But.. but i wanted a 5-slot card, i could actively cool through the IO bracket... oh well. i will settle for less.

[@LePedant]

I paid $400 for a RTX 2060S when pricing was normal. While not an amazing deal, I feel like it was worth the money. If you can get this near MSRP I feel like you will be satisfied with it. Not amazed, not disappointed, just satisfied.

[@heimvar]

That card has almost the same 3Dmark scores as my 2070 super that's adorable

[@christopherseistrup8493]

Why shouldn't it? It's a lower end card than a 2070S.

[@reto.]

The 2070S is pretty badass

[@Berserkism]

RRP is over $100 less than the base 2070 Super. Seems to be doing well then.

[@heimvar]

@@Berserkism yeah that's MSRP though 20 series is now a generation old so I would put them on price parity myself but that's just my view on it. I said adorable because I am indeed excited for this but we'll see how stock goes over the next few days

[@zjunk4877]

@@Berserkism How many years later? That's not good, that's stagnation. Or is that only bad when it's intel?

[@sephrus7784]

I might be more inclined to give AMD and Nvida a pass on the higher prices IF THEY WERENT TURNING IN RECORD PROFITS OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS. Now to get off of my soap box.

[@mariotop742]

This GPU is a fail one for his price ( 380 $ , euro in EU ) , same performance as 5700 XT plus is a bad one for PCI express 3 u need a motherboard whit PCI express 4 for full performance . I will skip this card , retailers in Europe are selling it for 500 euro as starting price but the price will rise whit the new stocks up to 600 -650 euro , so is NOT worth buying .

[@tenoki]

I understand all of the other points but the card was advertised as PCIe 4, so why would it be a hit if it were to max out PCIe 3 bus (which it does not)?

[@gismo3564]

LoL, 6600xt has been easily available at 400 or sub 400 € all day in most of Europe. Sold my used 2060 for 400€, bought this for the same, big performance gain and more importantly it stopped having texture pop in issues.

[@OriginalOrigins]

how many millions $$$$

[@masterdftw4983]

Wendful

[@jamesf.9079]

Fail launch again as soon as there is a 3rd option i will never buy a card from Nvidea or amd again they have forever left a bad taste in my mouth after this last cycle I will actively root for both companies to fail from this point on

[@b2bb]

I dunno what the hell AMD was thinking with this card... oh wait, dystopian late stage capitalist landscape :) _engagement_

[@ciscocomputertech]

I JUST GOT 2!!! My Nicehash Miner is not supported yet!!!! WHYYYYY

[@charlesballiet7074]

to bad its a x8pcie so if your using a gen 3 pci your gonna throttle

[@1BigBen]

well if you have a AMD PCIe3 system and you are in the market for the RX 6600XT hmm what gpu are you running and why. if you have a Intel PCIe3 you are most like buying Ngreedia at anyway. PCIe 4 8x is 16 GB/s vs PCIe 3 8x 8GB/s and for long time they have said pcie3 16x vs 8x makes no difference for you gpu performances. now looking at Hardware Unboxed 1080p Average Performance, it is on par with 2070super and 5700XT both technically one tier higher cards now Steve looks at that the PCIe3 8x as lost performances vs PCIe4 8x however that is also a gain performances by updating to old PCIe4 motherboard and CPU for the stoneage PCIe3 hardware.

[@charlesballiet7074]

@@1BigBen lol your argument is that people with 3 year old computers should just buy a whole new motherboard because amd is greedy. or did you forget the x570 motherboards were on average $300+ dollars. theres no logical reason whey they would nerf the pci connectivity except for it saved them a few pennies and was basically a screw you to people holding on to 1070s or vegas or any older generation hardware. Also in terms of performance this 6600xt is a refresh both in terms of performance and price to the 5700xt so as Steve said its not an improvement.

[@1BigBen]

@@charlesballiet7074 a refresh that is RX480 to RX580 to RX590 going from RX 5700XT to RX6600XT is step up in architecture, but step down in SKU level as for Vega56/64 it is 1 refresh and 1 generational jump, 50% drop in power usage, fps again at 1080p. going from 8GB of HBM2 2048-bit bus and Bandwidth 484 GB/s bottleneck card to slower on paper 8GB 4x2GB 128bit bus Bandwidth 256 GB/s, however with the 32MB Infinity Cache the Bandwidth is up to 832GB/s a architecture improvement. as for GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 256 bit bus Bandwidth 256 GB/s on power it's on par, as for performance didn't even make on to Steve's 1080p list. the reason for only 4x2GB chip is due to how small of a die we have, the PCB real estate very is small and same reason for the PCIe4 "nerf" you would need to adding layers to go 16x that would add cost and would most like put it closer in cost and performance to the RX 6700XT as for cost of motherboards AMD makes and sell's the chipset and provides the agesa, rest is the OEM

[@SaschTheDash]

Ngreedia lol

[@gismo3564]

@@1BigBen your logic and we'll articulated arguments are wasted on the internet.

[@lowzyyy]

Shitty card