SAR K2 45 ACP 14+1 rounds, Is it better than the CZ97?

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

Do the Para ordnance P-14 mags work in it? I keep hearing rumors but no one seems to have tried it.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Yes, 100% I'll test today.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Para mags work in IMI Jericho 941 45acp and ASAI PRO One 45acp too. Maybe the Megastar too.. i think the Kimber polymer, Charles Daily polymer 45acp and old Bul M5.

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

@@WheeledandWellArmed Thanks.

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

@@WheeledandWellArmed Do you know what aftermarket sights and recoil springs/guide rods work?

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 i have on my lap a Para Ordnance P12 and the SAR K2 45 mag fits and locks 100%. The SAR K2 45 does not fit the narrow grip of the IMI 941 45ACP or the ASAI ONE PRO 45ACP but those two are interchangeable with each other. The new Bul Armory 45ACP has the same exact diameter mag as Para/SAR but the mag catch is slightly different and same with the older Bul M5 and Kimber Polymer and the Llama. Wondering about the Star double stack 45ACP? I guess i should do a video on this?

[@jeansteffen5818]

I have had my SAR K2 for about two years. It is one of the best .45s I have shot in over 50 years of shooting. A high quality gun with great ergonomics.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I agree 100%, the only thing that comes close is 3x the price. When i bought the K2 45 it was $300. The Bul Armory SAS2 Tactical government 45acp was $1200. So used compared to new was 4x. But both are higher now.

[@Infloun]

I picked up this hand gun back in June 2020, my local gun shop sold it to me (used) for 350$, and I love it, one of my best guns I own.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I saw on at a gun show this past summer, I told him I had two, the full size and compact in stainless steel. I really wanted to sell his to me. I'm a bit of a gun nut but haven't yet bought of of the exact same thing (yet). When he got to $299 with taxes, I almost had a third.

[@ericvonzipper4374]

Nice shout out to the Boy Scouts. "Be prepared" is the best piece of daily survival advice you will ever get.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Yes, I'm a Eagle Scout. I'm an urban prepper. So the sign off makes sense.

[@davidcole333]

Saw one at my local gun shop yesterday, 06/13/20. I was highly impressed with it.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I hope you bought it, it is gone now.

[@larryholmes3043]

Having problems with 45acp bullet keeps getting stuck in the barrel

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

With different ammo? Send it back, these guys at SAR love guns and I'm sure they will treat you right.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Let me know if you have any issues with their service team. Thinking more: I bet the barrel is out of spec. Or there a ledge between the ramp and mag? I'm sure its the ramp. Polishing it might help but I doubt it.

[@jimtheedcguy4313]

I think the K2 is a damn good looking handgun, but those OD grips make it pop! I think I may pick one up!

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I bought the black one used and the trigger is 2.5lbs and as good as my CZ Shadow2 when it was factory new. The new one i bought, I had to put in the CZ lighter trigger spring kit everyone makes. I think I used Galloway.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Those grips are from eBay. There are many other colors to choose from as well.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

This is one of my favorite pistols, let me know if you have any questions.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@T Grun You are not the first with Quality issues. Great time to sell, you can get more than you paid. Yes it's shitty but that is the way it is.

[@mixedmarksman5873]

It is too big or heavy for conceal?

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@mixedmarksman5873 Yes for most, I'm in a wheelchair and carry it in a pouch holster. The compact is 2oz lighter and 3/8inch shorter but the compact grip is the same 14rd grip. Better truck gun, defense gun than edc. Did you see my video today with the Para Ordinance P12 45acp? 12 rounds and the footprint of a g19.

[@mixedmarksman5873]

@@WheeledandWellArmed oh ok I still might try to carry haven't seen it in person. And no but I'll check it out

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@mixedmarksman5873 what's not to love about a well made 45acp, double stack, that's 100% reliable. The difference in this and their compact was slight length and my full size has a much better trigger.

[@JMGeranimo]

Lately these(sar k2) are 5 ish plus shipping, the discontinued 97 is 1000 on gb. Thanks for the video.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Right now, there is a buy now for 299 + 35. And a stainless steel at 699. Both are great deals but especially the buy now.

[@markchambers2812]

What’s the name of the company in Alabama? SAR usa ??

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

sarusa.com/contact-us/

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I think they are in Album AL but maybe building a factory in Georgia.

[@williamgrissom1995]

I have the CZ 97B 45 and I love it. Though I wish it had the light rail like the SAR K2 45 has. It would be interesting to compare the 97b and the K2 side by side. I wouldn't trade my CZ 97B for one, but it would be great to have a SAR K2 45 too. Great video. 😎👍

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I also have the K2 Compact. I sold my 97B, the trigger on this one is better than my Shadow 2 when it was brand new and before i added all the CGW parts and SAO trigger.

[@overipecolt246]

​@@WheeledandWellArmedwait Cajun gun works offers parts for the k245? Is it just their 97b parts interchangeable or?

[@jamesbroughton7870]

Are those the grips that came on it? They look kind of a Army green color? Also do you think the CZ 97 grips would fit on it? I had one several years ago and I just ordered another one because I remembered over and over again I’m sorry that I sold it because you’re right it absorbs the recoil so well and I love cc style pistols I have two shadow twos the full-size and the compact but I just wanted to get this again. They got up in price though most places it was $600 but I ended up getting it for 525 out the door shipping and everything so I’m happy with that. I’m also wheeled and Well armed.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I'm glad you are wheeled and well armed, too. Yes. They are Army OD green. Ebay used to be swamped with these factory grips in different colors. They look just like factory grips in the same thin plastic but really sharp grippy feel. The good news they really have a lot of better grip options in walnut. I have two, and this one compares to my Shadow2 when it was factory new. My Shadow2 has a lot of upgrades and now SAO. So, no longer comparable.

[@joshuasterling2144]

I have the Tangfo Witness in full steel and this in the C variant. Both in stainless. Tangfo calls their finish the Wonder finish so its not quite silver its more like titanium grey.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I always wanted a Witness 45acp or 10mm

[@joshuasterling2144]

@@WheeledandWellArmed Mine is flawless with Lok grips. Its got to be about 20 years old by now. I have the grey and black palm swells and it really sets the gun up to another level.

[@joshuasterling2144]

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[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@joshuasterling2144 No doubt, Lok Grips are the easy 1st upgrade you can and should do before the gun has 500 rounds. But half my CZ pistols have aluminum grips but aluminum grips are not good for shooting outside in hot weather.

[@TealGradientMan]

Now I just purchased one of these but I'm haveing trouble finding a holster for it. Are the dementions similar to the CZ-75?

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I went with the Comp-Tac QB universal holster. I just checked Amazon www.amazon.com/sar-k2-45-holster/s?k=sar+k2+45+holster

[@Jake-mm1cz]

If you haven’t found a holster yet . I have two of the K2 pistols . I fabricated a shoulder holster and double mag holster . I have seen a few websites that make shoulder holsters for it . They are pricey . These are way too wide and heavy for a waistband holster . I purchased the early imported Sar K2 pistols . At that time there wasn’t any aftermarket options . I did find aftermarket steel magazines . Let me know if you would like that information . Sar usa has what you’re looking for .

[@TealGradientMan]

@@Jake-mm1cz I would love to know where I can get extra magazines

[@Jake-mm1cz]

@@TealGradientMan see my previous message for where you can find what you’re looking for . My messages keep being deleted

[@rustysnyder2809]

Any CZ 97 holster should fit decently. I have a OWB leather slide type holster that fits the CZ 97 for mine

[@jimtheedcguy4313]

Where did you get those grips? I just ordered my K2 and want to get some!

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Ebay is where these were from but now has tons of other options, maybe even better options.

[@VictorGee]

Is there a serial number range for the ones made in Turkey?

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

It says "made in Turkey" in Turkish. The serial numbers by importer might be helpful but they also have imported's name stamped in. Both country of orgen and imported must be there (stampted, engraved or etched) and are in the USA gun import laws. Thanks for commenting 🙂

[@VictorGee]

​@@WheeledandWellArmed Thanks for the info, I'll have to keep an eye out for that. I wish they would have come up with a new model name to make the Georgian made ones easier to find. I still haven't seen any press on them setting up their own factory.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@VictorGee I will call SAR and ask what is being made here in Georgia. I bought my black from GB dot com and the seller was Numrich Gun Parts in NY. The slide and lower have matching Serial numbers but the barrel SN is different. I complained to GB but they didn't care.

[@VictorGee]

What's the difference between this pistol and the K2 reviewed by Top Shot Dustin? His copy's trigger breaks at 5lbs.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I bought this used. I don't know if anything was done to the trigger but the importer was an older model. I'm in the VA with an infection and can't give more details.

[@VictorGee]

@@WheeledandWellArmed No worries, get well soon. I got my copy in, averaging out 8 DA and 8 SA trigger breaks I get 10.88lbs and 5.29lbs, respectively. I wonder if yours has the reduced power spring set installed.

[@leoguy1609]

SAR K2 is a licensed CZ copy, it's an excellent firearm.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I highly like all the SAR metal frame pistols I own and have shot.

[@johndeere1951a]

Everybody is making licensed CZ and Glock pistols because their brilliant. Anyone making a Ruger knock off ?

[@green4anon339]

Just got one...have the B6 9 mm model liked it so much I got this one .love both

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Sar just makes great guns. I hope yours is as good as mine! I know when I put mine in the bag it will be 100% reliable and put holes in holes if I do my part.

[@stever8776]

I wanted to get a CZ 97 but the prices are too high and they don't even have a rail. You can buy an add on rail from CZCUSTOM.COM. But then you have to drill and tap the frame. Is the frame on this gun aluminum or steel? Also is the frame on the Stainless Steel model stainless. Lastly who should my FFL dealer contact to order one? Cheers

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Sorry with your link the comment was "Held for review". This is all steel frame, heavy and zero recoil. Both the SAR K2 45 full size and compact have rails. They also have 14 round mags, CZ are 10 round. Buy one from Gun Broker and give them your FFL, SAR will not sell one gun to a FFL, they have a minimum number a FFL has to buy. I tried that first.

[@NYG5]

The one good thing about the CZ 97 is the straight dust cover does look very nice

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@NYG5 No doubt the CZ97 is a great looking pistol 👌

[@Jake-mm1cz]

When these were made by Sarsilmaz in Turkey . They purchased original tooling from CZ . Just modified the CZ 97 .

[@Linuxwarlord]

Beautiful piece, KSD grips makes wood grips for this model; Good luck and stay safe! ;L)

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

This is the best shooting 45acp: Glock, CZ, Sig, HK. ;-)

[@nimbly1693]

I was just looking at those. I want the compact model though.

[@popsncracks9108]

Can you share the link

[@jeffbaril548]

Good review but I noticed you never tested or measured the initial double action trigger pull. What is the weight of the DA trigger pull?

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Hi Jeff, thanks for pointing that out. I'm a quadriplegic and with my right hand I can not pull for more than 4.5lbs. but left hands it shouldn't be an issue. My EDC holster mount is on my right side and I mount my competition Comp-Tac holster on my left side. I prefer strong right handed but maybe shoot now faster left handed. Not sure if it is off hand or now strong left. But you are right, I will try to remember to do DA trigger pulls. This SAR I bought used for $325, I have no idea if there was a trigger job or how many rounds but the trigger is like a CZ Shadow2. The DA is a but under 8lbs. The new K2 45 compact DA is just over 8lbs and the new K2 SA trigger is 4-5lbs (from memory).

[@jeffbaril548]

@@WheeledandWellArmed Thanks for your response. I just purchased a K2 45acp and I'm glad I did. I am a big proponent of the DA/SA platform and I keep my K2 chambered with the hammer down. Because of the initial revolver like long trigger pull, the safety is unnecessary. Also manually decocking the hammer on a chambered round is easy. I can do it one handed although I would not recommend doing so.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@jeffbaril548 I'm glad you jumped it and got one, is your K2 black or SS? I have 3-4 people bitch about the quality or support. Not sure if they are real or just hate Turkey. I generally carry cocked and locked with CZ and CZ clones and 2011 (doublestack 1911). So I'm always SA. In the GADPA competition, I have to shoot DA first shot. So I draw left-handed for GADPA.

[@jeffbaril548]

@@WheeledandWellArmed Mine is stainless steel. I've only owned it for a short time so I can't comment on customer service. I will say that getting extra 14 round magazines is next to impossible right now. Every outlet I've tried is one backordered. The pistol came with 2-14 round magazines. I managed to acquire plus 2 extended baseplates from Galloway Presician so now both my magazines now hold 16 rounds. I hoping to acquire 4 more magazines.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@jeffbaril548 my Galloway Precision mag extensions didn't fit right, too narrow. Do yours fit 100% right? My compact is SS but by black full size has a much better trigger. I wish ammo was available. 45acp is just not here.

[@Hayseed1776]

Awesome guns...

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I 100% love that pistol

[@brothercolby1043]

What is the trigger pull in double action? Nice looking pistol. I have the Sar 2000 st and love it

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

The DA is 6lbs 10oz, smooth, no grit but pretty long. The reset is also long.

[@brothercolby1043]

@@WheeledandWellArmed thank you so much.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I have the K245 Compact Stainless steel that came new 4lbs SA 8lbs DA so that's really a better answer. The gun in the video was a pawnshop gun and must have gotten a trigger job. Any CZ spring kit from Galloway or Mcarbo will make the springs 20% better. Polishing will get this 20% better. Shooting 500rds will get this 20% better.

[@megalodonscortex7578]

Do you know any good recoil spring guide rods for this? Please is it possible for all of them or just your version of sar45?

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

CZ75 spring kits work fine

[@megalodonscortex7578]

What would you recommend?

[@geminiclouda.d755]

Haven't decided yet this or tanfoglio witness.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Look at Big Daddy Unlimited for #999119 the price is right 633 for Tanfo 45 with extra 22 slide. The SAR has a lower bore axis, better trigger and wider grip (less recoil). I have both full size and compact K2 45. I also have three Tanfos.

[@geminiclouda.d755]

Just check on that sku #999119, sold out. In silver color it looks gorgeous, don't you think?

[@geminiclouda.d755]

Tha k you for the info W. A. W. Armed

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@geminiclouda.d755 Call EAA, tell them you want it in the wonder finish. The wonder finish looks good but not stainless, it protects forever. They can order it. When you added the number sigh KZbin held it like it was spam or dangerous.

[@masterscammer4180]

i love sar K2 I got both black and stainless :D lookin to get the compact!!!

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I have the black full size and stainless steel frame compact. It is only 3/8th shorter slide. Because SAR is now getting full MSRP. Maybe look at the Jericho 941 45acp 13 +1 compact they are no longer being imported but still around.

[@irvinwebb7339]

@@WheeledandWellArmed p

[@boqtheboneless]

Which has softer recoil, the sar k2-45 or the glock 21 gen4?thanks

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

The SAR is a steel frame pistol and 40oz vs 28oz. The weight of the SAR feels like you are shooting a Glock 19 9mm. The difference in a SAR K2 45 and Glock 19 is the SAR is a push and the G19 is vertical flippy feel. The G21 feels like a 45acp being 40% lighter. The trade off is this is a heavier carry. I carry it on my wheelchair and weight isn't an issue.

[@deanoroso6824]

What replacement grips fit the k2 45c?

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

These plastic grips and some wooden grio options. All from from turkey.

[@BushmasterRaZ]

Gotta ask aboutbthr grips? Stock?

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Same thing as stock. Different color, i found them on Ebay maybe from Turkey, it has been years. The grip isn't better, just green.

[@misssassycompany9950]

No decocker?

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Thank God, no decocker. I can only carry cocked and locked.

[@misssassycompany9950]

@@WheeledandWellArmed hahaha! I admire you sir but I’m not yet there. Hoping one day I can have the courage to appendix carry cocked and locked.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@misssassycompany9950 It is a solid 45acp. The safety is good and auditable (you feel and hear thr click). I think this is better than the CZ97. Dry fire practice until you feel confident.

[@williebulletman5217]

Nice looking pistol for sure

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I 100% trust this to be accurate and reliable.

[@Jawnwickk]

I wish it had a decocker

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Funny, I hate decockers. I sold most but still have a few decockers.

[@LIONTAMER3D]

let's get this straight: these are NOT 97b clones NOR are they anything like a cz97. these ARE cz75b compacts in .45 acp.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

The Turks took a look at the CZ97 and said lets make the slide lower and lighter. It's a kinda-clone. The FPB is completely different, there is no pin in the rear grip like the CZ97 or CZ75. I sold my CZ97, it only had 10rd mags. Both the full size K12 and compact have 14rd mags. The CZ and SAR mags are interchangeable and the IWI 941 45acp and Omarion ASAI Pro 45acp mags will swap... Well i might need to double check that. Maybe a good video topic.

[@LIONTAMER3D]

@@WheeledandWellArmed i love you BUT you don't know what you're talking about: it's a cz 75b compact with a variation of the omega trigger

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@LIONTAMER3D I've never owned a CZ Omega trigger, they are not very good triggers and really can't be improved. The SAR needs nothing on the trigger my older SAR K12 has 1000s of rounds and the trigger is better than a new CZ Shadow2 with a disconector mod. It looks more like my Tanfoglio Stock3 trigger and maybe sear cage but different. I've never looked at an Omega trigger. I'll take your word. But is your CZ Compact Omega trigger this good?

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@LIONTAMER3D I think the 97 and Rami were made about the same time but same Sig style lockup. Not sure when the Omega trigger first came out but think or guess the P01 must have come out in 2001? All three are different but the Rami and 97 are similar. My Rami is a bd and i never worked on the trigger because i wanted to trade it for a Rami with a safety.

[@bitterlifes]

THE BEST 45cal 👍

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

100% best full size but compact 45acp for me is the Para Ordnance P12. There is a recent video comparing the SAR K2 45 Compact to the P12. The P12 LDA is not a 1911 trigger. Hopefully this weekend I can video and edit the comparison of the LDA trigger to a 1911 trigger.

[@bitterlifes]

@@WheeledandWellArmed Yea i agrea with you totally, but you are lucky that you have SAR pistoles there in USA, because in my country unfortunately this brand it is not aveliable. Aniway i want to say in general speaking that SAR pistoles, especially on 45.cal, they are solid player and competitor, even with high end brands.

[@PhilWitDa_45]

Do you know if these are +p rated?

[@squishy_Rio]

@That-dude-with-a-really-long-ass-screen-name.Ha-you-actually-read-it. hey i always wondered that too. These people that reviewed the pistol on youtube have said that its a heavy walled barrel. Me idk its my first handgun. I edc it though

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I don't know but the barrel lock up is stout. Sig like square breach block.

[@btrain2385]

@@squishy_Rio Arguably the worst choice for a carry gun...I bet you have a desert eagle in an ankle holster for backup...in your fantasy world.

[@squishy_Rio]

@@btrain2385 no i cross draw a ducks foot lol

[@btrain2385]

@@squishy_Rio have fun pretending you know what you are talking about...maybe you'll impress your online call of duty friends...but nobody who knows their shit will do anything but laugh at your efforts to be Steven Seagal.

[@otunca]

Just got it today for 650$

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

You will love it, the trigger will get better after 500 rounds

[@WraithChornobyl]

Great channel. Happy shooting friend. I would love one of these. I would imagine there is quite a bit of aftermarket grip and sight options for these if they match the dimensions of the CZ97B. I have the Shadow2 and love it. Does not beat my 10mm Grand Power P40 with rotating barrel though.. I sold my Delta Elite after getting that, its an incredibly flat shooter with hot 10 loads.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

If you look close there are notches in the corner unlike the CZ or Tanfoglio. The grip choices are limited to the same exact plastic but other colors. I think there are wooden options on ebay from Turkey. I spoke to SAR customer service about sights. I think CGW measured the smaller SARs and has options. Galloway Precision has spring kits. This is my favorite 45acp. Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I didn't know about the Grand Power P40 in 10mm. I sold my Q100 or Q1 to my brother, he carries it daily. I thought the P40 was a 40cal S&W.

[@rickberry6112]

Salsa mar? How bout Sarsilmaz. 👌

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

Sorry about the southern or maybe it is just my bad pronunciation.

[@btrain2385]

@@WheeledandWellArmed Don't worry, that dipshit didn't even spell it right, let alone pronounce it correctly.

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

@@btrain2385 there are some things that are just better pronounced in your own way. Thanks for the backup!

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

I just did another video coming up soon. I was going to say "SAR" but slipped up and said the longer version. I can't tell you if I said it right or wrong. But I'll keep trying.

[@johndeere1951a]

Bletch!! Man! put a fresh band aid on before you hit the Record button. The CZ 97, H&K USP45 Elite and Sig P227 Elite are way superior to this. Those three have superb parts, service and heritage. No thank you 👎

[@WheeledandWellArmed]

CZ97 does not stack up. I gave all the reasons. USP comes close, but only if you buy the upgraded trigger kit. Sig have their fire control buttons reversed and hard to go from the CZ style to Sig and back. Obviously, you never shot this gun.