The Supernatural Finale Aired, And Tumblr Exploded

[@SarahZ]

THE EDITOR HAS COME CLEAN, ITALIAN DUB OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED FAKE: dingdongyouarewrong.tumblr.com/post/636274550105161728/sorry-and-thank-you-i-want-to-thank-you-all-for

[@celestialbr0nze]

@@parkere.6881 she reblogged the post from the one who originally posted it

[@parkere.6881]

@@celestialbr0nze oooh im just Big Dumb thanks, i went back to look at the post again and it very clearly is reblogged its just been A Whole Freaking Day for me

[@martinasophiaisaksen3034]

Well this was all a fucking wild ride

[@kingoftropes922]

Sarah don't be naive. Clearly they were silenced by the higher ups at the CW for revealing the meaning of the scene #StayWoke #Hellers

[@antoniocarlosgoncalvesfilho]

@@kingoftropes922 so... the CW (famous for having a lot of representation of LGBT+ characters in their shows) had gone full illuminati and had gone to absurd lenghs just to censor a single line...? That doesn't sound at all... a little bit contrive? Just a little?

[@emilywhite1429]

Moral of the story: there are no winners here, except for the members of Kansas collecting royalties for Carry on My Wayward Son

[@katherinealvarez9216]

They are getting the royalties, right?

[@robinmitchells]

There’s rumors floating around tumblr that there was an original version of the finale script that had the members of Kansas up in Dean’s heaven, heavily implying that they canonically die in the spn universe. Whether this is true or not, it’s still hilarious and makes me crack up every time I think about it.

[@ozlekosusturu]

and the actors buying ranches off con money

[@thomasraines1396]

@@robinmitchells it reminds me of the film this is the end where the Backstreet Boys appear in heaven and sing.

[@hrishiv27]

@@thomasraines1396 this is the end

[@vibrantgray]

Putin’s silence on all of this is deafening

[@ilexdiapason]

underrated comment

[@NootalieWalf]

Underrated comment alert 🚨 I’m dying lmao

[@laurenr5446]

I hate that I know what this is referring to

[@vibrantgray]

nice to see we all have the exact same brain rot and were logged into tumblr on nov 5th

[@JuLiane]

This was the funniest shit I have ever seen. I didn't sleep a second after 15x18 (but where I am SPN airs at 2am which I watched via livestream so it was already the middle of the night) and spent the whole night on twitter and tumblr reblogging memes and screaming. I don't know when I last laughed so much about a thing than I laughed about the destiel putin election memes that night.

[@suspiciousgay6705]

jensen ackles: hey i’m not so happy with how this turned out kripke: maybe look at it how from the audience’s perspective the audience: hey i’m not so happy with how this turned out

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

Facts.

[@Mngalahad]

i imagine that motivational line only applied to the actresses of the show. "I dont want to die" "Actually, try to imagine what the fans want".

[@bingewatcherfanatic996]

The ending was so bad

[@phalamy9180]

Jansen Ackles: Hey I don't know if I liked this ending Kripke: Just look at it from the audiences perspective The audience: *This ending f*cking sucks!*

[@TheJadedJames]

It wouldn't surprise me if the discussion went more like ... JENSEN ACKLES: My character literally defeats God, but gets killed by a nail a week later? I think it is kind of lame that I'm going out like this. KRIPKE : The producers made the executive decision that permanent on screen deaths of both brothers is the only way to make the story feel totally over.

[@davidtaylor142]

"Character confesses homosexual feelings for another main character and literally immediately dies" That's the most CW thing I've ever heard

[@TheLastSane1]

Does he actually die though? I mean if you got teleported to heaven, in your meat suit. Did you die? Or are you just in heaven? I think Castiel just gets yanked into the Empty still alive which btw makes no fucking sense given that the Empty is annoyed people keep waking it up but it brings someone who is not "Asleep" into it as punishment? Lets face it that storyline was bunk.

[@ambergathings7160]

They did that with Clarke and Lexa

[@SatanicKale]

Normalize platonic love between men. This is why it's so hard for men to show emotion to each other, they'll get labeled homosexual by those who only think they understand what's going on.

[@davidtaylor142]

@@SatanicKale I get it, but the video does s good job explaining how it's clearly supposed to at least be easily translatable as gay

[@meowdyllic]

@@SatanicKalebeing labelled homosexual isnt a bad thing though why should those guys even give a fuck

[@parkere.6881]

destiel actually becomes a canon relationship in sherlocks secret good episode

[@guillemmartinez9958]

Did someone say Superwholock crossover?

[@tatehildyard5332]

I smell the next Starkid musical

[@fleon4115]

@@guillemmartinez9958 pst, don't spoil dw Christmas special

[@dylanchouinard6141]

@@tatehildyard5332 a starkids musical parody of Supernatural? Excuse me but where do I give this ALL OF MY MONEY?!?!

[@froginatub]

and there actually WAS a conspiracy to cover up supernatural's original, gayer last episode, but it's because that episode made johnlock canon

[@LilyJoeM]

things supernatural is indirectly responsible for: -riverdale i'm a weirdo scene -omegaverse lawsuit

[@charlieh4607]

THE IM A WEIRDO SCENE? WHAT AM I MISSING

[@LilyJoeM]

@@charlieh4607 she explains this in the video, from 28:36 to 29:55 :)

[@iwashere3167]

The whAT lawsuit 💀💀💀💀😭😭

[@WraithMagus]

@@iwashere3167 Lindsay Ellis did a video on it a couple months ago - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJm6iJaNqaaIpbs

[@LilyJoeM]

​@@iwashere3167 ...well, if you'd like to watch another video essay on youtube just search 'Lindsay Ellis Into The Omegaverse: How a Fanfic Trope Landed in Federal Court', it's worth watching. Really REALLY extreme summary: kinky wolf erotica sub genre that originated in the supernatural fandom becomes so popular that it's used in other fandoms and in published books, and then becomes the center of several DMCA takedowns and lawsuits and an entire discussion about copyright. Believe it or not, the New York Times even wrote an entire article about this!

[@cassieb6749]

"Destiel is canon but only in Spanish" I died laughing

[@marthamaywhovier5962]

And MAYBE in Italian...

[@sleepymushroom844]

This is wild to me, tho, because homophobia and machismo are more prevalent in modern Latin American cultures than in mainstream US culture, so for these Spanish-speaking countries to have Dean reciprocate Castiel's feelings instead of the original US version, bravo 👏

[@aprilf00ls]

aaaa i didnt get the joke and im mexican help

[@abelardoplatas1549]

@@aprilf00ls I can confirm here in Mexico we make American homophobes look like the YMCA.

[@marthamaywhovier5962]

@@aprilf00ls what joke dude

[@emohatsunemiku578]

"Destiel is canon- but only in S P A N I S H" is the funniest sentence I have come across in DECADES

[@mimsycookiiess]

I couldn't stop laughing lmaooo! 😭

[@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide]

You're not even 2 decades old son....

[@deadpooldan9862]

It’s not even canon then, it’s not canon anywhere. I know Dean said “Y mi tu” but he really said “Don’t do this Cas.” It’s been stated that’s a rouge translation.

[@devilinred3319]

@@deadpooldan9862 hi, mexican *who speaks spanish as first language here*, and you english speakers have to know someting about the "canon" in Latin america. Sometimes english canon DOESNT MATTER AT ALL. WE HAVE CHANGE MOVIES AND SERIES STORIES FOR YEARS!!! (specially in the 70s and 80s), sometimes because the american humor just dont vibe with latinos and the references are to "american niche", so they change things to be more regional for the latinos (depends what country does the traduction, México its the most playfull with their accents and scritps, to the point of have controversies for that with other spanish speaking fans -yes im looking at you Aventure time-). SOOO... that Castiel and Dean scene in spanish goes like this: (BTW "Te amo" its only use for very pasionate and strong love in Latin america, and usually its romantic; men dont used with friends cause of the macho stereotype, so in TV is not use it between men so easily). Castiel: I love you, dean Dean: I love you too cass Im not even a shipper, i drop supernatural in season 9, but the scene she puts in the video really suprise me, again the voice actor doing their shananigans. So yeah, sometimes spanish TV its another reality.

[@danebirbhaha7520]

​@@devilinred3319exactly, regardless of how it came to be. In Spanish, Destiel is canon

[@kpfields7130]

Castiel: Dean, I'm gay for you Dean: Meh Castiel: I'm so happy

[@satunbreeze]

Thats exactly what I was thinking 😭

[@Hunter-sx9uj]

"I want to take you at your most happiest." ... "Dean, no!"

[@sakshivaidya1368]

That kinda makes me think that the theory could be true. I mean just confessing your love doesn't make anyone happy right? The person they love reciprocating those feelings does.

[@satunbreeze]

@@sakshivaidya1368 He wouldve had to have known Dean reciprocated though, right? And Deans reaction was like, nothing

[@sakshivaidya1368]

@@satunbreeze Exactly which is why the theory that changes(to make Dean's reaction nothing) were made last minute makes sense.

[@gryffinhore9545]

I'm going to be honest, I thought "the car went to heterosexual heaven" tweet was parody.

[@soroneir1260]

I thought it was a parody until I saw the third person joke about it.

[@soupsoup4245]

So a fucking CAR goes to heaven and a confirmed bi/gay character goes to superhell?? Wow love that homophobia

[@robinmitchells]

@@soupsoup4245 I was telling my dad about the shitshow that has been the final episodes of supernatural and I said “so yeah the car goes to heaven but cas the angel doesn’t” and he went “where did he go then?” And I replied “superhell”. Dad gawked at me and cried “What did he do to deserve that?!” And I replied “confessed his love to Dean” and my dad, a raging homophobic man, said “he doesn’t deserve to be sent to superhell for *that*!” So, yeah, even the homophobes though that was bs lol

[@blitzie66]

@@robinmitchells i can confirm i was the dad

[@Annimations]

@@blitzie66 @rthathappenedpolice get em

[@youraveragemusicperson2176]

I can't believe Cas went to superhell so that Yuri on Ice could come back-

[@semmerson30]

LMAOOOO

[@greeneyesgirl467]

Yeeesss lol

[@queer-ios3155]

WAIT SHUT UP WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH YURI ON ICE HOW WAS I UNAWARE

[@dontmintme]

November was wild on Tumblr this year

[@youraveragemusicperson2176]

@@queer-ios3155 the yuri on ice creators released the trailer for the YOI movie, Ice Adolescence which will be a movie on Victor, i think. You can look up the trailer on youtube

[@timothymclean]

Jensen Ackles: I don't like how Dean dies. Eric Kripke: You have to look at it from a fan perspective. Fans: I don't like how Dean dies.

[@GotoMaki4Micah]

dean is not my favorite character but they put him down like a dog really. i feel sorry for people who grew up with that character who went through ups and owns in their life and made memories with the show. i feel like dean was written in 2 difference ways at the same time, cool hero but cold gangster enforcer, they put him down like someone who lead a life of crime would go. instead of a blaze of glory or happy ending. the fans idolized dean. i wonder what the writers really thought of him. spn was15 seasons, truly as world to get lost in. i would call the second to last ep the final episode for me.

[@twistedelegance_]

I never liked either. Both are misogynistic, homophobic and white privilege personafied. They think they can police the world in this mediaval mindset, and never grow as people. Sam's only face looks like he smelled a fart, the actor isn't very good. Towards the end you can see the camera awkwardly cuts away quickly before Sam makes that face. The side characters were THE talent and what carried the show. Not the "main characters".

[@commiewhacker4033]

I feel so out there for liking the way he dies lol. He died how he wanted to, swinging. I thought it was poetic in how it went down and I was satisfied. I didn't think it was a perfect ending, but it was as good as it was going to get 15 seasons in. I don't think it should be brought back and I don't think the ending was that bad.

[@joocymangoes]

@@commiewhacker4033 ugh i wish i could feel that way, it sounds so peaceful lmao😭 my issue w dean’s ending is that the entire show, from start to finish, dean was battling mental health issues and suicidal thoughts, and he wanted to quit hunting from the start, but believed he’d never be able to, and that he’d die on a hunt. to have him then actually die on a hunt, from a treatable injury, felt extremely disrespectful to the character to me and ignored any and all character development they’d written for dean. i just can’t be satisfied with a show that ran for 15 years and then ended exactly the way it started, the whole point of a story is to have DEVELOPMENT and then not just ignore that development in the very last 40 mins of the 327 episode show😭

[@deadpooldan9862]

@@GotoMaki4Micahno, they put him down like a hunter, which is what he is. That was his happy ending, going down saving people. He always knew it was gonna end like that because he never imagined being anything else, and this was made clear in the Lebanon episode

[@fruitcakemtdew]

It wasn’t a matter of IF she’d make the video, it was a matter of WHEN

[@EroticInferno]

I saw it on timeline and I said, “there it is”

[@erikdaniels0n]

And how long lmao. I knew it would be as long if not longer than her TJLC video and.. hoo boy, it certainly is

[@lexgrey8103]

I heard that it ended and litterally didn't bother looking into it because I knew this was coming 😂

[@valsantos8984]

@@EroticInferno ,

[@ShitLiterature]

Your dark window without blinds freaks me out. I keep expecting a face to appear

[@queenoffabulous2156]

In the wise word of Jenny Nicholson, the worst thing an ending can do is make you feel stupid for caring in the first place

[@amuletangeldevil]

Which Jenny's video was this line in again ? I can't remember.

[@KOTEBANAROT]

@@amuletangeldevil probably rise of skywalker

[@MT-lk7qt]

@@amuletangeldevil rise of Skywalker breakdown

[@grandunification]

I would love to hear Jenny talk about this. I love your comment here, it's absolutely true!

[@nightlyowl9278]

Sherlock is quaking in its boots 😭

[@ethel7255]

i thought i already knew every wild piece of info about destiel but "castiel exists because of unionization" bulldozed me

[@chteretreeart]

Same that sentence hit me like a semi

[@merrittanimation7721]

And they say labor unions and gays aren't related /s

[@mitak2535]

Based Cas

[@zimmerwald1915]

​@@merrittanimation7721 Eh, the Hollywood unions gave us Reagan, who among other things led a decade-long Operation Ignore on the AIDS epidemic and threw any number of his members under the McCarthyite/HUAC bus (which included outing them as non-straight in some cases).

[@merrittanimation7721]

@@zimmerwald1915 */s*

[@aidanchilders9043]

I'm not sure if it's been addressed or not, but in hindsight it's clear that both in conception and execution this was a show aimed squarely at an audience of Boomer Dads - the neo-western vibes with classic rock music, two manly man brothers and their older even manlier man dad driving around in a classic muscle car killing demons from the Bible and where every woman on the show is either dead, evil, or about to switch from one state of being to the other - aka the very designed-in-a-lab platonic ideal of a Dad Show. So the writers were clearly both unprepared and COMPLETELY blown away when their audience turned out to be 90% teenage girls,, young women, and gay people, a demographic they clearly had no idea how to satisfy, and then impressively, managed to spend almost twenty years of television on the air without hiring anyone for the writer's room who DID.

[@fossilfighters101]

that makes sense

[@ZadnoleyaEdits]

There it is.

[@maggiedk]

I just find this a bit baffling as someone who grew up with Buffy and could tell how much influence it had on Supernatural as early as the first season. Like, did they not realize that it would appeal to similar audiences? Especially on a network like the CW. Or maybe they hoped creating a show like Buffy (demon hunting, monster of the week, comedic but dark) but taking out any semblance of feminist messaging would appeal to an entirely different audience. They wanted to make Buffy for bigoted dads.

[@RexytheRexy]

13 years after being introduced to this show, it all makes sense now.

[@devilinred3319]

THIS. When i saw the show with my family (we arent for the states btw), my dad isnt into fantasy or magic so he didnt past ep 2; but my grandma, aunt and my mom FALL IN LOVE for this show, for jensen and jared. To the point they binge watch in netflix (of our country) the whole series to that point in a really short period of time. I mean they kinda did adult pijama parties to watch all night. Was wild. And neither my dad our uncles get to far in the show, they said it was good but... the dropped really fast.

[@jennmorton3155]

Poor Cas ended up with a car as his romantic rival, and the car won. Dimpala is now cannon.

[@gateauxq4604]

*DEAN IS NOW A DRAGON*

[@shockingheaven]

LMAO

[@persgodiva]

It always was 😂😂😂

[@sockpuppetmogwai856]

I mean the Car was still on Earth, it was Heaven so of course a version of Baby would be there, just like Dean's clothing would be there. It was things he knew and felt comfortable in. And they where conceived in Baby so kind of part of the family. And Jack and Cass are running around up there somewhere. Good hook for a spin off or a return later.

[@Weirdanimalboy]

There’s definitely some niche NSFW fanart out there of that

[@idabsopeoplecantseemecry3835]

imagine being the girl who asked jensen ackles a question and realised that someone wrote a published story based on that one incident..... and realising that you indirectly caused the "im a weirdo" scene....

[@triccele]

It's like the "9-11 caused 50 Shades of Gray" thing

[@williamshookspear9584]

I had never actually heard the hat part of that and I cannot believe its real, like, how do you write and just think "fuuuuuuck that's deep"

[@aaronhour]

@kingcerati another comment explained it LMAO. basically Gerard Way saw 9-11 happen then made MCR after. Later, Stephanie Meyer wrote twilight (gerard inspiring edward) which thus caused a twilight smut fanfiction that got adapted into 50 shades of gray LMAOO

[@CriAleMar]

@@aaronhour Doesn't this also technically mean it caused the iconic Dakota Johnson catching Ellen lying scene?

[@TheSpeedPlays]

My favorite butterfly effect is deep space 9 caused the obama presidency

[@yaya-mk3nn]

here’s how johnlock can still win:

[@youraveragemusicperson2176]

SECRET FIFTH GOOD SHERLOCK SEASON

[@joelsytairo6338]

1 Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch get married 2 start a new studio and buy the rights to Sherlock 3 Secret good episode gets released 4 The world burns anyway and nothing matters because it’s 2020.

[@EroticInferno]

Stop it

[@trentoatman2998]

Initially I thought this was about the philosopher John Locke 😂

[@joelsytairo6338]

@@trentoatman2998 ur way too sophisticated to be in this comments section

[@Blue_Avatar]

"People are inherently lazy and wouldn't work without monetary motivation" Destiel fans: *investigate Italian film industry/frame rates*

[@static2735]

Dean being killed by a nail has the exact same energy as Loki attacking Thanos with a butter knife and then immediately getting choked to death.

[@vanilloia7479]

"we don't know what to do with this character now that they've had developement, we HAVE to kill them!"

[@astraregulus2672]

I'm still in denial about Loki's death, not gonna lie

[@Xehanort10]

Sounds like the Supernatural writers took the "For Want of a Nail" trope literally.

[@jodipearson567]

Fans always acted like Loki had a good story within the marvel universe, but he wasnt used much and had such a stupid death. I wanted to see more of him

[@glitchedcrit3848]

My reaction was "Loki is smarter than that, there must be another plan" and it sucks because there wasn't

[@biomistflorist658]

"i swear i am not a tumblr history channel" this is like the fifth one, Sarah. Just *accept your fate!*

[@kingoftropes922]

There goes Sarah again, Tumblr Historian-baiting us

[@samwich3972]

i mean she didnt doubledeepdive and made videos about that graveyardlady, the toenecklacestuff or idk... the zubat scam. yet...

[@CIDILIABRA]

@@samwich3972 what about the child slave

[@sweetumami1338]

@@samwich3972 what about the several kickstarter scams like all or nothing or butch pal for the straight gal

[@samwich3972]

@@CIDILIABRA the list goes on and on

[@j.b9218]

"Are they gay?": boring, can attract homophobes, gets you turbo warped to super hell. "Are they _[Spanish dubbed]?"_ : exciting, invites the homoerotic confessions of love, might still send you to _súper infierno_

[@basildoingthings819]

UNDERRATED COMMENT

[@redundantqwail9088]

Can I get this in meme format?

[@eekembookum]

Is he, y'know... dubbed in Spanish?

[@fruitygarlic3601]

Harkens to the classic European tradition of suggesting other cultures invented homosexuality - this time without the xenophobia.

[@moosekalz254]

yooo i was the 1000th like

[@eredluin]

Watching this after the great "Misha Collins had to come out as straight on Twitter after accidentally coming out as bisexual for a bit at a convention" debacle of 2022... truly Supernatural is the curse that keeps on giving

[@Eiterlude]

I cant believe spn fans got queerbaited long into 2022 😭

[@MarieJesne]

I had to look up what happened and I'm *baffled* like why would he say that to begin with LMFAO. It's not offensive so much as just confusing?! I thought maybe it was in response to a question but he said all that without prompting! «How many introverts in the audience? How many extroverts? How many bisexuals? *Well I'm all three!*» [slightly paraphrasing here but not by much.] Not sure how else he expected that to be interpreted, the whole situation is a bit funny to me 💀

[@naikigutierrez4279]

What

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

for (very late context) he meant to call himself an ambivert at a convention but forgot the word so he... called himself bisexual

[@GrandpaShagger69]

@@iwakeupandboomimarat It's like that one meme of the guy that forgot the word Bilingual so he said Bisexual

[@Finn_01]

Supernatural: We don’t explicitly confirm Destiel Latin American Dub: *…and I took that personally.*

[@ava_marie_v]

The Spanish dub is truly the hero we needed.

[@Finn_01]

@@ava_marie_v “Your minions may do me no harm, America. For I cut through them with the blade of dub! Begone!”

[@Wired_User]

All hail the Spanish translators that changed this ending! Viva la Español!

[@ava_marie_v]

@@Wired_User I don't know why, but "Viva la Espanol" is hilarious to me😂

[@ButIamAStick]

SPN: We can not make it explicit LSpanish: Estas retandome?

[@mirandatilley2486]

My favorite joke about the finale is "When we said we wanted Dean to get nailed, this is not what we meant"

[@petermartinez4399]

I laughed way harder at this than I should have. Good work.👍

[@PaleNoFace]

I snorted so hard I hurt my throat

[@TheLastHylianTitan]

“Destiel is canon but only in Spanish” It’s official - the L in LGBT stands for Latinos. (Dramatic guitar chord)

[@cpsbBXCX]

*open E chord strummed quickly on a classical guitar*

[@sophiesorbit]

i wanna give this a thumbs up but theres 420 likes rn i cant be the one to ruin that

[@TheLastHylianTitan]

@@sophiesorbit have no fear, for I will do it for you.

[@evvilprisma1755]

Latinamerican dubb is one of the best if I may say so, the variety of words and meanings makes it really unique. In this particular case I feel it was made that way in service of congruence.

[@GOFFBITZH666]

@@pulchrare2 No it wasn’t, only the Italian one.

[@mantis-manthegreat]

People hating on Ruby just for Sam's actor to marry Ruby's actress. Fucking power move.

[@ettaetta439]

I hated Ruby but only because it was super obvious she was going to be a villain to me. Plus, I was an intimacy-hating 12 year old, and icky blood s3x scenes made me hate seeing her because I was always watching Supernatural with my family. When I found Sam's actor married Ruby's actress I felt nothing but pure support and awe lmao, I at least knew she was hot so I was impressed.

[@Kazuma_kiryu311]

Eh Character =|= actor People can dislike her as a character but like the actress

[@SovietWomble]

What if we're all gay but only in Spanish? In fact, those already out are merely in touch with their Latin roots.

[@Nadia1989]

[ is gay in Spanish ]

[@InTrancedState]

Wombleeeeeee

[@MemeSupreme69]

Galaxy brain thought

[@KCMMFB]

Womble watches supernatural? Checks out.

[@wyatttibbitts8603]

Now THAT would be some bullshittery

[@saifsufian4286]

This video is a full length movie, and I’ve never seen the show I’m still watching

[@sage5530]

same same

[@qwertyqwerty-jy9fc]

Same

[@luvia6498]

Same. I had never heard of Supernatural until the finale

[@annabelecassarole8020]

Same

[@MG-ou4qd]

Saaame

[@disasterdrvid]

Finding out the “Ship It” author wrote for Riverdale is turning my brain to worms yet somehow it makes perfect sense

[@oppakunn328]

The worst thing is that she is one if the better writers on that show

[@disasterdrvid]

@@oppakunn328 👁👄👁

[@beeaggro2593]

I mean the show is basically telenovela chaos and designed to be telenovela chaos so it makes sense

[@beeaggro2593]

@@oppakunn328 It's cause she gets what the show is. It's Rebelde on Crack

[@oppakunn328]

@@disasterdrvid Also fun fact the Book apaers in an episode of Riverdale itself

[@sweetsummarain]

I cannot BELIEVE how hard I laughed at "DEAN IS HOLDING BACK!" "Holding back a SLUR!" 🤣🤣

[@brain_apostrophe_t]

English: "Dont Do This Cas..." Spanish: "I love you too..." Hindi: "Im yours Cas..." Chinese: "Ive wanted you for years..." Japanese: "Take me now you big hunk!" Taiwanese: *The muffled sound of pants being taken off*

[@opaluni]

💞

[@mooma0912]

Omg and yall wonder why everyone weirded out by destiel lol

[@deadfr0g]

Korean: (loud dance music slowly fades in)

[@cyncynshop]

Who are you and how do you know Taiwan so much.

[@ancalyme]

@@mooma0912 they have no sense of humor?

[@catb6195]

The Spanish dub thing is so funny, it's like a reverse Netflix Neon Genesis Evangelion situation. Evangelion's English translation says, "No homo," but SPN's Spanish translation says, "Si homo."

[@Nadia1989]

Dean was worthy of Castiel's grace

[@beeaggro2593]

Spanish dub always been gay

[@lial2143]

@@beeaggro2593 confirmo. Remember when the latin dub of Card Captors left uncut the entire thing with Sakura's friend, as well as her brother's romance with that guy, which was like super mega cute?

[@bebebebota11]

@@lial2143 The LatAm dub of Sakura Card Captor was known as one of the best dubs back in the day. In Lat Am, in general, anime wasn't censored unlike in the US.

[@beeaggro2593]

@@lial2143 Yep! Plus like all the weird gay stuff in a lot of 90s anime!

[@alexander_avila]

there is a void in my soul that supernatural has been slowly carving out for the past 2 weeks

[@thunderpants153]

he is here, he has arrived

[@killanelle]

oh shit he's here

[@ayeletdrago]

mr aretheygay deliver me 😭

[@youraveragemusicperson2176]

I definitely felt the void in your soul when you were talking about supernatural in your livestream lmao

[@zorosboobies5346]

my stomach is full of rats

[@PugsleyThePear]

I love how the Destiel page on the shipping wiki is tagged as: Semi-canon Canon (Latin American dub)

[@Kazuma_kiryu311]

Yesss

[@thatonepunkguy]

my favorite destiel meme from this was a gif of cas being sent to turbo hell, followed by a gif of a pink sparkling "Love Wins"

[@letmebeyoureden]

HAHAHAHA I AUDIBLY CACKLED AT THIS AND NOW MY FAMIYL IS CONCERNED

[@agalwithnoname]

Pls a link i need to see that before i die

[@quirtorium546]

My favorite was the one saying that Cas sacrificed himself to turn Georgia blue

[@sierra3052]

Same lol.

[@scrungeonmaster9511]

love loses

[@akiwuff2779]

"it always bothers me when a show, that sustains itself off of the fandom of young women, mock the very people that allow it to survive." =Tea that's hotter than anything you've got in that mug. What a fantastic video.

[@yourownmother9604]

^^^^

[@shmel3689]

Honestly, it's so weird when creators are being rude to their fandom. Like ANY fandom. The fandom adores their work, spends time to engage with it, creates work that is a symbol of their adoration, and that's what they get in return? Like be fucking grateful that you got following that loves your work and it's thanks to them you're able to be creative as your main source of income, you dipshits.

[@jazzycat8917]

@@shmel3689 I personally believe its because the audience they get is not the one they want. Mainstream media and society in general calling teenage girls "cringey" for being passionate about literally anything is well documented, so when certain shows like Supernatural and Sherlock ended up with a fanbase heavily made up of teenage girls i can only imagine how pissed off this made certain showrunners and producers. They don't want to be a "cringey" show that teen girls liked: Supernatural wanted red blooded American dudes repping their red blooded American bros killing monsters, Sherlock wanted smug intellectuals of what i like to call the "reddit variety" to match their smug psuedo-intellectuallism and "genius". But what they got was a massive wave of excitable young women (many of them queer to boot). So began the cognitive dissonance: pretend that the fangirls only make up a small percentage of your audience so you can feel justified in mocking them just enough so that you also don't lose all the money that deep down you KNOW they are the driving force behind.

[@robinmitchells]

I remember there was one cartoon show, I think it was Teen Titans or something along that vein, that got cancelled because its target audience was young boys, and got a fandom of young girls instead. Sigh. And yet there are plenty of dudebros who happily insist that sexism doesn’t exist anymore...

[@joelle4226]

@@robinmitchells are you thinking of Young Justice?

[@SolarEidolon]

The “Dean is holding back. -Holding back a slur.” post absolutely slayed me.

[@Alex-jg2bc]

Lol I love that one

[@proserpinabringerofdeath5935]

I saw all these on my dash 😭😭😭

[@slevinchannel7589]

I dont see any reason why Castiel should be considered gay or anything. I did not get this from his last speech. That speech was good, the season's end was mostly bad, that's just how it is, i cant accept that, as it was not entirely ruined.

[@asmrtpop2676]

@@slevinchannel7589 Straights will say this but they’ll see a male and female character next to each other and assume they’re destined to marry.

[@asmrtpop2676]

@@slevinchannel7589 Like, if that speech was said to a female character it would without any question be considered romantic.

[@Elijah_Kujo]

I hate how we all know that if it was hetero, "angel saves human, learns what being human is while falling in love with said human" wouldn't be a setup they would look away from

[@lizabethhampton4537]

isn't that the plot of a 90s movie about the archangel Michael?

[@mericido5609]

If it was hetero, Castiel would've died a _long_ time ago.

[@ettaetta439]

​​@@mericido5609that is true but people were desperate for a ship they could like that was not wincest, so if they have Cas as a girl just as much depth as Cas as a man, and didn't immediately make them get together, then eventually lots of people would've probably come to like the ship. Most people hate forced romantic subplots, and they've come to learn that heterosexual romantic subplots are usually forced. But Dean and Cas had genuine chemistry and of course there still would've been backlash, but I don't think there would've been as much if they didn't immediately shove them together.

[@pkwytv]

I dated someone in high school who’s dad was a conservative old dude supernatural Stan. He tried to get us into the show and his main selling point was how “cool the car is”.

[@rafyhay5916]

1:00:57 "... cars in this universe apparently go to heaven." I think this guy might have been onto something...

[@suides4810]

@@rafyhay5916 the car was the secret lover: CONFIRMED!

[@speckofdignity2487]

Wow. Exactly same here. Well I was also a decently involved fan of SPN back then, but still

[@kingsaracoon9594]

The dad was right the car was cool enough tot get into heaven, too.

[@TheFFilipp]

It’s nice knowing that this type of fans is exactly who the showrunner was pandering to

[@patrickracer43]

Character in a CW show: "I'm gay" The writing staff: "your free trial of life has ended"

[@hiesisme907]

Arrow verse tho

[@agentstache135]

Watch Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and thank me later

[@NeelLLumi-AnCatDubh]

@@agentstache135 I was about to say that! What a coinkydink, SO WEIRD RIGHT?!

[@Xehanort10]

Nah. In a CW show gay characters, instead of being people who happen to be gay are instead people whose sexuality is their entire personality and character. See Arrow's Curtis Holt who would remind people he was gay every 2 seconds even though everyone knew. And make balls jokes about his T-sphere gadgets.

[@hiesisme907]

@@Xehanort10 sara lance

[@lizg235]

"You went to superhell for a straight man who died of tetanus. I'm dining at the Ritz with my demon sugar daddy. We are not the same" I'M CRYING

[@briarnotblair]

AHHHHHH

[@susufray3601]

Who said that?

[@PirateWanderer]

Good Omens is fandom gold, I love all my ineffables

[@Nadia1989]

The Ineffables/SPN crossovers posts on Tumblr are THE BEST

[@kasstlekrasher5468]

IM SCREAMING

[@Eve.v]

absolutely obssessed with the last post shown as sarah scrolls frantically down her november 5th dashboard: " > i think supernatural should end with d*stiel becoming canon but then immediately pulling a bury your gays. sorry i know homophobia isn't funny but at the same time that would literally be so hilarious > REMEMBER WHEN I CALLED THIS BACK IN JULY "

[@zoeb3573]

Imagine being that person and living through all this. Incredible.

[@Nadia1989]

Damn it, Apollo!

[@crazy_noisy_bizzare_t0wn396]

"There is no Easter Bunny, There is no Tooth Fairy and there is no Destiel Cut"

[@birdiejett3163]

Santa Claus is real tho, and so is the Snyder Cut

[@kusivelho4733]

Hey Hal.

[@Ultimataco]

@@birdiejett3163 the synder cut is actually real though, it's going to be on HBO max and will be even worse than the original shitty movie

[@Nadia1989]

What about the Cats Butthole Cut?

[@grandempressvicky6387]

Is that a Megamind reference?

[@Sylocat]

We live in an odd cultural moment where TV shows will make the actual literal Christian God the main villain of the show, and have the protagonists kill him, but showing two dudes kissing would apparently make things too political for comfort.

[@SaraSG1]

VERY underrated comment.

[@TheAbigailDee]

NAIL ON THE HEAD

[@Brittanysplittany]

Either is completely unacceptable.. I wish the show hadn’t gone there :(

[@halkon4412]

@@Brittanysplittany ok karen

[@SaraSG1]

@@Brittanysplittany You know this is a vid about Dean/Cas, right? So the comment section will be all people who love the idea of gay relationships? I think you wandered into the wrong part of KZbin.

[@GigglingKat]

I understand that this is about Destiel, but the finale actually is so badly paced that it genuinely appears that Sam does NOT have a son named Dean. It appears that Sam KIDNAPS a boy named Dean, and as they don’t show the “mom” in any real form and because they didn’t age the child consistently or even match physically - it’s implied he does this more than once. This is now my favorite thing about the finale. I like my crack salty.

[@octohej6436]

I love this interpretation XD I haven't seen any supernatural episodes since 12th season and I'm not going to, but supernatural fandom gives me so much joy and laugh right now. I love my headcanons for these stories, I don't need to tarnish them :) Crack is undeniably the highest form of fandom creations.

[@madeniquevanwyk]

Honestly when he walked with a little toddler named Dean my first thought was that he started volunteering at children's homes or shit like that.. i know others also thought he adopted the kids from the mime-pire huny but I knew they were too old. I mean, this is a gap of how many years since Dean's death? It must have at LEAST been 5, which still is wayyyy fast and yeah the whole thing is just super wacky. I would love if he kidnapped boys and named them Dean to try and raise them "right" as a kind of descent into madness after the death.... I will now adopt this theory.

[@ArsayumTheThird]

I think there's a decent chance they were planning to shoot more scenes and have send-off cameos for a lot more characters, but pandemic might've screwed things over with getting all the other actors to come over and film.

[@madeniquevanwyk]

@@ArsayumTheThird this is already established as a real possibility, so I understand, but I definitely also feel like they could have made a million other choices instead of putting this out as the final product that taints a series as beloved as this one. Don't games delay their release date all the time to work on last minute things? I wouldn't have minded.

[@TheJadedJames]

The kid's mom probably would have just been revealed to been Eileen or something if it weren't for the pandemic. Even though I don't think the finale was great ... I don't really think we had to know who the kid's mom was to justify the montage or anything. It is just a montage to show us that Sam lived a full life so when we see him meet Dean at the end of the episode, we don't think that Sam must have been mauled by werewolves the next day or something.

[@beep_the_foolish]

It's amazing that children's cartoons are better at handling gay/bi characters than shows made for adults that are extremely popular with the gay/bi community.

[@sleepingdogpro]

It's the "popular" bit that always gets me. I think a lot of them like the drama and don't actually want their ships canon. It stops all the yearning and fantasy and means they'd have to actually deal with imperfect real relationships between characters who may not work out. It's much easier to get mad at creators who never meant to write something gay than it is to seek out the (absolute ton) of well-written gay rep out there in the world and deal with those works on their own much more complex merits.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Yeah, I've seen a lot of really good stuff made by single small teams with some really good representation, I think that bigger teams have to consider demographics and revenue so they care more about the money than smaller artists

[@damien678]

@@sleepingdogpro As a queer person (in multiple ways) you're definitely onto something here. There are a lot of people that want to exist in the space of fighting for a gay ship instead of becomes mega fans of media with gay characters and ships already in it. However actual representation - especially those written by queer people - is much more heavily criticised. And queer creators typically get way bigger harrassment and hate campaigns against them than their fellow cishet creators. It's a really tragic phenomenon since this hate is lead by a LOT of other LGBTQ+ people as well. (and personally has made me want to just hint at characters being queer, or confirming it in more subtle ways, and not even being openly queer as a creator. some hate is always to be expected, but from your own community and allies?)

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@damien678 Lol someone's one cancelling away from becoming an alt-righter

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@sleepingdogpro What are you even talking about? The whole point of this video was that people were mad that their ship WASN'T confirmed but done in the nastiest possible way. Popular media SHOULD have gay characters, if it's made by a big company it should try to get as much of an audience as possible.

[@walkingexistentaldread3079]

i can’t believe no one’s talking about the fact Sarah found the connection between Destiel and “I’m a weirdo. I don’t fit in. Have you ever seen me without this hat? That’s weird.” I love pop culture.

[@vikas_room]

god that's so... _weird_

[@blaireprince3709]

the way that castiel is indirectly the reason why that scene exists......everything really is connected huh

[@anazuleta3079]

It was mentioned in the r/hobbydrama post she mentioned in the beginning

[@flowerbookmark]

she wasn't the one to find it... other people pointed out in tumblr

[@nagisa0931]

“Have you ever seen Cass without that stupid 🧥 trench coat”? Edit: lol not stupid maybe that trenchcoat makes cass so cass like and handsome

[@Weirdanimalboy]

Moral of the Story: Show runners will give female characters brutal deaths before showing a gay relationship on screen

[@razmiddle9410]

It's female fans cheering for the deaths of the female characters. I'm glad Sarah Z went into this on the "Gay Fanfiction" video - there's an element of self-hatred and internalized misogyny among a lot of slash fans.

[@goroakechi6126]

Not to mention not white people.

[@hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561]

Fuck this shit, censorious youtube prefers kink shamers opinion over egaltarianism. You are setting a great example Susan!

[@vi_cesario]

@@hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561 hey you doing alright buddy? everything okay at home?

[@hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561]

@@vi_cesario When youtube deletes two accounts that belong to you. For being rude!!! While you have not cursed, unless qouting, on this platform. Your accounts have been deleted TWO times for wrongthink. And now 9/10 of your comments get deleted by youtube. Yeah you tend to get a bit angry.

[@arandomcomment1092]

I love how homophobic Destiel has brought us together in this dark time

[@dreamsprayanimation]

It truly is a dark age when the way we get together is for the Destiel travesty. The gallows are the only thing that brings ppl together in the worst of times.

[@GhostWriter520]

Okay, you've done Sherlock. You've done Supernatural. There's only one left. You've gotta get into some juicy Doctor Who Tumblr drama

[@unicornsprinkles8964]

Idk if docter who had any drama other than people complaining about martha

[@exoplaneeet9499]

tbh i would be interested in a history of the dr who extended universe during the wilderness years, but thats a bit earlier than the stuff sarah likes to cover. i just dont think the tumblr-era dr who fandom had nearly as much drama as the other two to warrant one of these videos

[@dorkiecookie]

@@unicornsprinkles8964 Yeah Doctor Who fans were just *loudly* passionate but all my years on tumblr I’ve never seen them be annoying. The cast changes too so like I feel like people didn’t necessarily get stuck with the same characters all the time, but of course Matt Smith and David Tennant’s Doctor Whos were the most popular.

[@kamilee4123]

Honestly up until fairly recently (with the casting of Jodie Whittaker as the first female Doctor) there’s not really been any widespread fandom drama in the Doctor Who fandom. Maybe some character debates or very minor shipping spats but nothing on the level of its sister fandoms, Sherlock and Supernatural. And even the stuff with Jodie isn’t as bad as all this for the most part I think, it’s mostly people debating about the writing with some really hardcore fans of her calling anyone who critiques it sexist and some genuinely misogynistic fans putting it down just because the Doctor is female now and not because the writing’s bad. So yeah, some normalish fandom drama stuff, but there wasn’t much back in the day and certainly not a crazy fandom wide conspiracy like this or TJLC.

[@yuza1032]

I just realized the latest season of Doctor Who was the equivalent to Sherlock and Supernatural's endings. Although thankfully the loose nature of the show's premise makes it theoretically possible to ignore it like so many other things that have been ignored. But wow it leaves such a horrible taste in my mouth how someone could retcon so much and interfere with the fundamental canon of the show and yet change absolutely nothing at the same time.

[@jlkjlkjkljklj9162]

Jensen to Kripke: "I don't know I just feel like the ending is a bit... bad" Kripke: "Jensen, you're too attached... try not giving a shit"

[@TheRainstorm97]

Implying that the viewers are less attached than Jensen is to Dean! Like, what!

[@TheBc99]

This part gave me Game of Thrones PTSD

[@noahlloyd3012]

The real question is how they thought the ending made sense from an audience perspective. Like... :0

[@stewieismyhomeboy]

Ngl, I kind of want a shirt that reads "just go, demon ho" on it

[@spacetypo]

this would pair nicely with "hey demons, it's me, ya boy"

[@brookelynch5225]

fine, i'll leave :(

[@erikdaniels0n]

Maybe Sarah can make that her next merch after the Tea Is Gay shirt

[@michelafiore393]

@@brookelynch5225 aww, please stay!

[@YuuChanneru]

@@spacetypo yes

[@martaszabo465]

"Destiel exists because of unionization" *Internationale starts playing*

[@AbstractTraitorHero]

Glorious, glorious unionization!

[@Max-nk9xg]

Does that mean the more workers unionize, the more Destiel we will get?

[@dark_attribute]

communism = more destiel the proletariat needs to WAKE UP

[@AbstractTraitorHero]

@@dark_attribute Now your talking my unironic language comrade.

[@merrittanimation7721]

Wait, a union is another term for a marriage, which can be gay. It all makes sense!

[@crystalsmith2775]

Dean: “I was silent” The fandom: “were you silent? or were you SILENCED?”

[@deadpooldan9862]

No, he was silent. It’s perfectly in line for him to not tell Cas he loves him, and it would have been completely unbelievable if he did, not because of homophobia, but because Dean isn’t someone who says “I love you” in a romantic way. We literally never heard him say that to Lisa, who was the closest Dean’s even come to loving someone romantically. Dean isn’t into guys, he’s literally said that multiple times

[@anabsolutebuffoon]

@@deadpooldan9862it’s a quote

[@RGrace-sl4ko]

I remember how I found out. I had just moved apartments and was waiting for my internet to be installed. On November 6, I excitedly snapchatted my friend, and her reply was “welcome back to the internet, Destiel is canon” and I nearly called the telus guy back to ask him to disconnect me again

[@svinjamaria]

“All of these female characters having romantic interests in sam or dean, all get positive and calm reviews from the tumblr fanbase” Something’s wrong, I can feel it

[@owlgirl1998]

she said that and i legit laughed out loud

[@tatiana2696]

Honestly though I'm still cackling

[@cassieearle9196]

flashbacks to nasty wincesties getting angry with jo for no reason.

[@viddergrapho8488]

@@cassieearle9196 This is why I never called myself part of the fandom. Jo was a goddamn sweetheart and her death was fucking heartbreaking.

[@Sara-dp5dg]

@@cassieearle9196 remember when the wincest shippers sent death threats to misha collins and all the hate post about Castiel because he got in between their....ship 🤢🤮

[@lostintranslation5630]

the fact that we get the origin story for jugheads "I'm a weirdo" speech AND we get a reference to italian edward cullen in this video speaks VOLUMES

[@xxrawrgameremo98xx86]

I can't help but think how both misogynistic and gay fetishizing it is for people to attack any woman who *dares* exist in the universe but would gladly ship and celebrate the first man who appears.

[@MichiruEll]

I think it's absolutely not okay to attack the actresses, but the characters... most of them were quite boring to me. They felt underwritten, because it felt like their main reason for existing was as love interests. However, in later seasons, we got Charlie and Rowena who were both wonderful. And I am still so angry at what they did to Charlie. Her death was so pointless. Justice for Charlie.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

@@MichiruEll i absolutely get that the female love interests were basically nothing characters but they werent being critiqued because they were nothing characters, they were basically being blasted because they were women, and that was unfortunately just how a lot of fandoms were

[@idonthaveanoriginalname2881]

I'm bi and I always likes women more, but most of the women on the show are very annoying to me. People like Castiel, because he's a very likable character. He's a cutie. I myself am a woman, but I just can't find anything likable with these characters. Most of them seem kinda mean tbh.

[@Nirax3]

I've thought about this issue a lot (and written essays about it in university in hopes of clearing things up for myself) but I haven't found a definitive answer yet about why exactly this happens. I really think badly written female characters are a big reason why slash shipping happened in the first place - no one wants to watch OR identify with shallow characters built around sexist stereotypes. Henry Jenkins speculated (among other hot takes lol) in Textual Poachers, written in 1992, that slash fiction could be an easy way to explore equal relationships untainted by patriarchal power dynamics. I'm not sure because I haven't been active in Fandom spaces for some years now but I feel like since we've gotten more diverse female representation, this has gotten a bit better? Like other commenters said: Supernatural was a tricky one because most of its female characters early on are terribly written (although I personally liked not only Charlie but also Meg when I was younger - again: retired fan over here, no idea what happened to them in the last few seasons). For example, I look at The Witcher and of course people ship Geralt with Jaskier, but I haven't seen a lot of hate from these shippers towards Yennefer (Geralt's Canon love interest) because the female (!) showrunner went out of her way to portray Yennefer as an interesting, relatable character. Then again, I might just be missing the hate from slash fans because the hate from angry and misogynistic cishet male video game nerds is louder. All of that being said, I can't deny that a lot of male slash shipping by female fans *feels* fetishizing sometimes, and I say that as a bi woman who's been there myself. The whole slash shipping thing, despite being a huge part of my own adolescence, remains a mystery to me that I can't quite put my finger on.

[@SistersTape]

@@Nirax3 very interesting arguments! I've been thinking about this issue lately too. I'm in a similar position as you and I think you make good points

[@mingming1799]

I cannot believe the iconic "I'm a weirdo" scene can be connected to destiel, we're in an endless loop.

[@nousheenanjum1522]

@mckenna white do I want to know?

[@tatltails3923]

@@nousheenanjum1522 9/11 inspired the creation of MCR, which inspired Steph Meyer to write Twilight, which inspired the Twilight fanfic that eventually became 50 Shades.

[@centreoftheselights]

As a former Supernatural fan, I feel like the fandom has the same issue as Sherlock fandom in many ways: they believe in a show that is better than the one that really exists.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

They all forgot about the cursed Indian burial ground episode?

[@ConyMoya.]

This is it.

[@emmaphant02]

They are pretty much the same people tho, thats why "SuperWhoLock" was such a popular trend to be a part of 5 years ago. They had one show left to cling onto since Doctor Who fell to shit with bad writers and moffat leaving, then Sherlock was well Sherlock and so I reckon they tried to have a little bit of hope that this would be somethng they could remain proud of. Its honestly such a shame for these people to be screwed over so many times. Hopefully some of them ad developed tougher skin from Sherlock and find it easier to move on and accept how shitty the worlds influence can be

[@thomasraines1396]

Points for optimism?

[@imfamoushero]

Oh man I felt the same way about Glee in the early years until finally waking up and realizing the writers don’t care about their characters so why should i lol

[@catc2938]

I feel bad for the girl who asked the question about bisexuality. I hope she’s okay now.

[@mentallyunstable1926]

she was just like booed for asking a question. if i were her i'd walk away the moment i got booed and just go and cry somewhere.

[@josephinestucker7535]

The fact that a 15 y/o literally outed herself in a space and was received like that is horrific. I know the booing had to do a lot with the question but the whole situation reeks of homophobia. The actors should have handled it better and not treated a vulnerable teenager asking a genuine question with such hostility and dismissal.

[@martinasophiaisaksen3034]

@@josephinestucker7535 exactly. just watching that clip triggered my fight or flight. its a really vulnerable situation and they should've dealt with it better.

[@Nadia1989]

I would've had a breakdown and run crying back into the closet. Poor girl.

[@kydenlutz5933]

i do wish the actors handled the situation a bit better, but a lot of people also don't know the whole story. the girl eventually made a post from her perspective of the situation. cassammydean.tumblr.com/post/85797668931/direct-from-the-mystery-girl

[@natsinnett9751]

My mother (40) has started watching Supernatural in the year of our lord, 2023. Please pray for us in this time.

[@Leacholotemj]

How is it going?

[@spectre.c]

same and i wasn’t even in the fandom i just heard abt all the drama but it still GOT me when she told me. now she’s trying to get me to watch it too 😭😭

[@t0r3]

update

[@gateauxq4604]

Sarah giving Misha a book of non-nasty fan letters at a convention is the purest thing that has come out of this show.

[@Ziaberry]

I think I remember that, holy shit. I feel like I remember seeing a call go out for someone asking people to send her nice letters to Misha that she planned to give to him. I wrote one! I hope he has it ahhhh omg lol

[@epicremarc]

@@Ziaberry holy shit you are a part of Sarah lore

[@miadelaguila2611]

damn destiel isnt actually can-wait, what is that? oh my god hERE COMES SPANISH DUB WITH A STEEL CHAIR

[@cookiecutter3758]

Nobody expects the Spanish dub

[@chocomintbear]

Lmaooo this made me laugh

[@angelic_stargaze]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lorraine4014]

Tell me how I watched this entire almost 2 hour long video despite never having seen a single episode of this show in my life

[@SatanicKale]

Depression

[@cleflps7746]

As you should✨✨

[@b.w.22]

Man, a month later but I’m right here with you!

[@juliettebarasch6180]

Same, sis 😂

[@mikakestudios5891]

For the drama

[@driphearts8035]

I watched the whole video and never knew what this show was. I asked my mom if she's ever heard of Supernatural after watching this. My 48 year old mother responding by saying "Yes, I watched a lot of it! My favorite characters are Castiel and Dean." Was the most surreal experience I've ever had

[@VioletEmerald]

My mom was always a big fan throughout her 40s and 50s.

[@endowl]

Based emiya profile picture man

[@chris_tophygc1523]

Latinoamérica uncensoring a gay moment is the best plot twist of supernatural

[@alonsoarana5307]

Top 10 Anime Betrayals

[@frisolaxod3835]

It's the twist I would've never expected yet the one I always needed

[@greenergrass4060]

I sure wasnt expecting the spanish gay-inclusion

[@charlott2200]

Latinoamerican dub (español latino) dosent censor lgbt+ characters and plots . On purpose ,sometimes have been some mistakes in translation . For example the dub of sailor moon has haruka and michiru as a couple , cause it was translated directly from japanese instead of the english translation like other animes like pokemon . Even if here in latam theres many homophobic people , i never seen any lgbt+ plot being censor . In fact theres so little censorship , sometimes had been censorship in violent escenes in cartoon especifically like a little cut in steven universe when garnet was separated in season 1 ,cause it was a little too violent . But nothing more . Latino dubs are one of the best and i dont say cause is my lenguaje ,i say cause i watch allmost all series in the original lenguaje and then compare to the dub ,always choosing similar voices ,and adapting jokes .

[@eabhaishere4558]

Sarah’s Carry On My Wayward Son dance walked so TikTok could run

[@sauleiwanderapfelstrudel]

So.... English dean: straight Spanish/italian dean: bi German dean: homophobic

[@Yunie32]

w-what happened with the german dub

[@ChiSbaObePcheH11]

wait has the german dub come out lol? never watched the show but have been theorising for weeks on what the german dub is gonna have him say lol

[@autumnjacobs1164]

@@ChiSbaObePcheH11 i think it was that like in season 2 or something dean said the german version of f*g i don’t think it was with the new episodes

[@ZentaYason]

German here. That comment was in season 2, airing in Germany around 2007/2008. Back then there were not many repercussions for using derogatory words and people didn't think about those words being hurtful. Hell, Law and Order used the word tr*nny in German multiple times. We have come a long way since and no dub would use words like this anymore.

[@ThorTwinkle]

Wait what happened with the Italian dub? EDIT: Never mind I'm at the part of the video where Sarah explains it. Sorry 😅

[@icarus7198]

The last writer’s strike created Destiel. I can’t wait to see what fucking batshit fandom moments happen 12 years from now as a result of this strike

[@adriannethornheart8516]

can’t wait for someone to write a wish fanfic that’s better than the movie then to have disney steal the fic

[@wildlylucky]

my random guess is that it’ll be good omens related. idk how or why. i just feel the need to say this. perhaps it is the gift of prophecy. perhaps i am completely wrong. we will see

[@Romandy13]

​@@wildlylucky The saddest future is Good Omens S3 being a flop because of the recent revelations concerning Neil Gaiman.

[@andreas_iced8297]

Writers: *writes in gay subtext* Audience: *points to gay subtext* "this is gay subtext" Writers: "nah, lmao" *shoves audience onto a rusty nail*

[@bartholen]

I'm a straight dude who watched the first 7 seasons before getting bored, and I never saw any of it as gay subtext. I saw it more as a parody that the supposed ultra gruff badass action series protagonist is actually a big softie. For example, I saw him getting flustered over Dr. Sexy as Dean being a big fangirl. Though from what Sarah describes, the gay signaling seems to get more overt in later seasons.

[@kianaafsharr]

@@bartholen no lmao it was definitely there the entire time though maybe you were too straight to catch on or something

[@shellsilvers]

@@bartholen even as early as season 1 there was subtext about Dean being insecure about his sexuality (the body painting scene in Hook Man).

[@KetsubanSolo]

@@kianaafsharr This just reeks of Naruto's NINJAS READ THE SECRET MEANINGS WITHIN THE SECRET MEANINGS stuff that even the series itself made fun of

[@mavrickindigo]

@@kianaafsharr I am pansexual and I didn't catch destiel until I heard about it online

[@auv_guavs]

As a person who never watched this show, that nonchalant "Chuck ends up being God, by the way" knocked the wind out of me. Edit: Wait, is becoming God treated like getting a promotion here?

[@TheRainstorm97]

Yeah, he faked being one of his own prophets. The next prophet after him is a college kid who gets pulled out of it just like Sam was in the first season (he was going to law school I think?). Then they eventually kill God. Oh, and God has an evil sister. It's a trip.

[@ZeroOhClock]

Also God is canonically bisexual

[@someonewithaphone3108]

@@ZeroOhClock The representation we... have.

[@FiveOClockTea]

Honestly I thought it was obvious when Chuck first appeared. I don't know what tipped me off anymore, but when the big reveal happened I was like "wait... wasn't it already revealed? I thought it was obvious?" 😅

[@vamp_bat_chomp]

@@TheRainstorm97 Kevin was trying to be a doctor I think? And he was fresh out of highschool applying to college.

[@denied7616]

lmao i can't believe homophobia is actually responsible for the "i am weird" scene

[@pleasekillyoursef]

This comment is art, it belongs in a museum

[@ChasehaWing]

In retrospect, it makes sense.

[@sleepyqueer]

i mean can’t you tho

[@thetruth830]

I mean I don't really think it was homophobic- and this is coming from somebody who's never seen an episode of supernatural lol. It's like when you ask a female actress how her character is so skinny or how she looks so young or anything- obviously not the same thing, but based on this video, and from what I know from fandoms, he was probably constantly being asked the same thing over and over. He has this character that he would probably love to talk about when it comes to his decisions, ideas, morals, etc., and literally, the only questions people ever ask him are about his sexuality. It makes it feel like that's the only thing they care about, whether he _might_ be bi and not the actual character, which would definitely be annoying. Idk, I feel like that clip just had an out of context feel to it, like he's almost certainly being asked these questions all the time and is probably tired of it, and when it's the first question asked, plus when someone straight up goes up to him with an entire *essay* about why his character is bisexual, it seems upsetting. Again, not a fan of Supernatural, just my opinion.

[@sleepyqueer]

@@thetruth830 there’s a lot of other stuff jensen ackles has said in cons in the past, including him using the word gay=bad on a panel, i don’t think he’s wildly homophobic, but i don’t exactly think he’s an ally either. it’s been a long time since i was in the supernatural fandom (stopped after season 10 i think) so i can’t remember the specifics, but i’d recommend looking it up if you’re interested, i know i found most of the footage of him being Yikes off of tumblr posts that had compiled it together 😅 so i’m sure they’re still out there. as for the clip, idk, i don’t think it’s expressly homophobic, for the reasons u said, but it does make me uncomfortable, and the cast were always very tone deaf when it come to their queer audience but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ as far as they were concerned they were in a Straight™ show about Men™

[@Blueeyesthewarrior]

I think the worst thing that this show implies, is that despite death being nothing more than an inconvenience and an excuse for an adventure most of the time, Dean doesn’t even attempt to retrieve Cas. Because he either thinks that it isn’t worth the effort to get back his friend or, worse, that he believes his friend should stay in turbo hell for his gay feelings.

[@hadassahbenson4020]

There was so many wrong things with the finale! I personally separate Supernatural into two parts. The original show runs from season one up until the finale of season five. The second era which I called the fanfiction era runs from season six all the way to season 15! I literally hated how they killed Dean off and we’re just supposed to believe that Sam doesn’t do a thing to bring him back? What a joke! And it’s not even believable or funny.

[@joseliacarlos]

to be honest,, that was the fault of the writers because even Jensen didn't like the ending

[@erinys2]

like oh my god what the hell

[@deadpooldan9862]

@@hadassahbenson4020 Sam not trying to bring Dean back is completely believable when you actually pay attention to the show. The finale was actually good, and idk why people hate it so much

[@stonersiren]

not turbo hell lmaoooo

[@egg9206]

“bible riverdale” is an extremely powerful concept and i think it gave me tetanus EDIT: I WROTE THIS BEFORE I GOT TO THE TETANUS PART IM ASKCNDKDN

[@vainpiers]

I thought that was Sabrina?

[@comicsans2212]

you’re absolutely right and I hate it

[@djalmadevil]

@@vainpiers me too lol, she is literally satanic Jesus and she went on a bible themed scavenger hunt (that even passed through Riverdale). It's really how even not insane Cristians would probably be uncomfortable with the most mainstream teen show with biblical themes. It's even more amusing that I watched that whole show just because Katya might be in the next season lol I'm oversharing

[@MynahGtz]

I truly need to pause the video for a moment to sit on it and the implications and wooo boi

[@vainpiers]

@@djalmadevil I love Sabrina despite being a Christian, I was told I was unchristian for watching it lol (I think God has bigger things to worry about than me watching Sabrina). Im disappointed that the tone has shifted in later seasons, and that they've definitely amped up the riverdale vibes. I hope the last season will be closer to the first in tone.

[@19Isa09]

‘Just go demon ho’ was cut from Hamilton

[@khatunamezvrishvili6211]

I was thinking about Hamilton when she read that

[@fruitygarlic3601]

Way better than Burn, the flop of a din that replaced it.

[@casperchristiansen2458]

Someone give Elisa a Grammy!

[@Radien]

Wasn't that the original version of “Say No to This”?

[@19Isa09]

@@Radien either that or ‘burn’, not sure 🤔

[@b3b3j4y]

"I'm bisexual and...." the whole crowd groans and boos and the actor you love says "What a dumb question, im going to pretend like you didn't say that. i wish i hadn't even come to this convention." jesus christ that's so harsh i would cry if that happened to me and i'm a 30 year old man

[@HouseOfWanda]

I think they started booeing specifically after she says she noticed subtext, not after she said she’s bisexual. The crowd are assholes either way tho

[@bismuthcrystal9658]

I get the 'man' part; such harmful pressures certainly exist, sadly. But... why do height and hirsutism matter?

[@b3b3j4y]

​@@bismuthcrystal9658 lol yr right, it doesn't really matter, i was was just trying to exaggerate to be funny.

[@80yearsold23]

God yeah. That would break my heart. I mean that would fuck me up for years. I hope all the big fans that got screwed over by the cast + team are doing ok

[@Shinkicker07]

@@80yearsold23 we're trying. We made a charity page within the Trevor Project, called The Castiel Project where we raised over 50.000$ for it. I suggest everyone go check it out and especially the comments because to me *that* is the essence of the Destiel fandom. I'm a bit taked aback that it was presented here only as a laughable conspiracy when they issues with spn run too deep and Destiel was honestly the tip of the iceberg.

[@daisyelizabeth5462]

re: the college essay i don’t understand why people got mad at her bringing fandom content to a convention, what is a convention if not a fandom space? are we not allowed to cosplay anymore because actors could be at the convention and we cant bring fandom near them? it just makes me brain go ??? huh?? i dunno man, that just confused me

[@Nadia1989]

I remember there was an university (the UBA, I believe) that had their own congress dedicated solely to fandom and fandom culture.

[@harley69]

I think it has less to do with her bringing Fandom stuff to a convention and more so to do with bringing stuff that could construed as "shipping content" to an actor in the show. Jensen dealt with so much bullshit from destiel shippers that I imagine any mention of a bisexual Dean would have his hackles raised

[@sramtae5820]

The spanish translators making Destiel canon are simply restoring the balance lost to the universe when the american translators made Haruka and Michiru from Sailor Moon "cousins".

[@Eli-sb4yl]

Hakura and Michiru are still gayer in spanish than in english though.

[@rbck8826]

Its haruka, not hakura.

[@Eli-sb4yl]

@@rbck8826 My mistake, I didn’t notice

[@rbck8826]

@@Eli-sb4yl no worries! Easy mistake.

[@anjamilde]

While reading this I remembered that in German translation (anime, not manga), they as well decided to switch the gender roles of one villain pairing: Remember in the first season, the four knights of the villain queen? All of them male, two of them in a pairing. In German synchronisation, they switched one of them to a female voice to make the pairing straight. I mean. Ok. As if any child watching the show cared, to be real. Literally no one did. (Sailor Moon in Germany was primarily a phenomen for children and young teens up to maybe the age of 12.) Fast forward a few season, just in case you’re wondering: They did not make this switch again either with Haruka/Michiru nor with the Sailor Star Fighters nor Fisheye and the other two. Oh well, sweet summer child of 90ies homophobic Western media. Why, just why.

[@magickaldust1213]

BRUH. I have not heard the words _"I am the one who gripped you tight and raised you from perdition"_ in probably a decade and I need you to know that hit me like a TRAIN.

[@NeoNovastar]

I've never seen the show and it hit me like a truck. Thats some powerful fuckin shit.

[@carissaree]

SAME.

[@mrsscreamgirl5332]

I haven't watched supernatural in years, I forgot this was a quote, now I remember and it hurts

[@katerrinah5442]

That growly voice though 😭

[@angelinaconte3304]

I cant believe I forgot abt that

[@1911odisea]

I totally worked on the show and I have to correct you on one thing: Castiel didn't went to turbo-hell because he confessed love to a man, but because he didn't say 'no homo' afterwards. Hope this clears things up.

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

Finally, it all makes sense now!

[@nejdalej]

"I want you in my sweet embrace for the rest of time" no homo

[@edendenton7274]

Hearing that poor 18 yo trying to ask that question broke my heart. It takes guts to try to talk to celebrities, let alone at a big convention like that. To be instantly met with boos and groaning, then with him instantly saying he regretting being there- joke or not- must have really fucking hurt

[@Summertimeislife]

Fun fact: I had surgery on the 19th and was on so many pain meds that I don’t remember watching the finale, although my family says I forced them all to watch it.

[@sahraguya7639]

I was also on many pain meds after the finale, but not because of a surgery.

[@Summertimeislife]

@Rajeswari Ghosh I have no idea, my love, I choose to ignore my family’s warning of a bad ending. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day was ruined.

[@AmimikaMoon]

Yknow I think part of the reason people consider questions about a character's sexuality "inappropriate" is because people still see same-sex relationships as some inherently sexual thing, yknow the whole "we cant show gay couples, what would the children think?" While straight couples are flaunted relentlessly.

[@haroldsandahl6408]

I would argue that gay and straight couples are inherently sexual things. The act of coupling makes it sexual, otherwise it would be the same as many other relationships. As far as asking about fan theories, it is about taking something implicit, that you have read into the work, and make it explicit. In effect, it is asking the author of the themes you had to write a book report on are the intended themes. Some will respond positively, others negatively. And the fans will do the same. If the author intended the themes then that could make them very excited. If not, then you could make them frustrated.

[@PureMagic101]

@@haroldsandahl6408 relationships aren’t inherently sexual though? Example: ace people in relationships exist. People with little to no libido exist. Elementary schoolers have relationships. People who just don’t want to have sex exist. There’s romance involved, yes, but the concept that it’s going to be sexual isn’t necessary. There’s orientation, but to assume it’s all innately sexual is not correct.

[@PureMagic101]

@@haroldsandahl6408 heck even aromantic people exist and are in relationships with people they love platonically. Relationships are about trust and an attraction in some form, but it isn’t always innately sexual for sure.

[@PureMagic101]

I’ll never forget that one of the actors (forgot which one forgive me) was asked about destiel at a panel and he said something along the lines of “this is a family show, stop asking,” which means he thought queer relationships were inherently not family friendly. While that’s hilarious in its own right, it’s even funnier considering this show is about demons and hell and stuff, which is typically a no no in family media.

[@PureMagic101]

@@haroldsandahl6408 the biggest issue really is though that when straight people are together, it’s a “relationship,” where as when gay people are together, it’s seen almost solely as a “sex thing,” because to a lot of people gay people arent in a relationship, they’re just there to fuck. It’s a weird thing from ingrained homophobia and it’s wack.

[@roman-dn4nl]

Ah, so this is what it feels like to watch a historical documentary when you participated in the events at hand.

[@Shinkicker07]

ahaha this!

[@brainrotdotorg1611]

EXTREMELY wholesome that you were so agog and aghast at these other fans writing Misha inappropriate letters that you, in response, gifted him an entire notebook of respectful fan letters

[@ShaunCheah]

"Chuck later turns out to be God, by the way." had such an impact that I immediately Googled "chuck supernatural wiki" and was greeted with this incredible opening line: "God, initially known as Chuck Shurley, is an ancient primordial being who created the universe and nearly everything it contains, including the human soul."

[@KyleRayner12]

Hallowed be the Lord, Chuck be thy Name.

[@sorelle5687]

I am wheeeeeezing so hard at this comment

[@gilnahnu]

chucky cheese

[@AJ-pu9jq]

@@gilnahnu chuck e. Jeez

[@katherinemorelle7115]

Up until the last season, a lot of SPN fans (going back to when it was just a fan theory from the end of season five, well before it was confirmed in season 11) would use Chuck instead of God. Like Chuckdammit, I swear to Chuck, etc. The last season kinda ruined that for me. And I’m not switching to Jack. But you know what? The Christian God is a douche too, so maybe I am okay with using Chuck. At least my pretend deity is canonically bisexual. And loves cats.

[@asafupps]

Old age didn’t kill Sam, the wig did

[@anyalaASMR]

you’re laughing. party city killed sam winchester, and you’re laughing.

[@asafupps]

@@anyalaASMR That’s true, rest in pieces my man

[@MissySobriety]

I was crying my eyes out watching the finale because the wig was bad and definitely no other reason...

[@asafupps]

@@MissySobriety Same

[@silversun1203]

😂

[@sampagano205]

Destiel falling out like this way was the tax we had to pay for Catradora being cannon.

[@shemweisberger9878]

OK YEAH

[@cecilia5093]

Pretty much

[@amyishere5206]

I'd argue its more of a tax for obsidian

[@EroticInferno]

Yeah but I’ll take it. Catradora is love

[@cardboard2night]

Catradora ran, so the Destiel can limp...

[@subha2573]

funniest part is that even the hetero ship didnt become canon. RIP Eileen, we love you girl

[@carolinemcgovern4488]

I'm still bitter to this day that Eileen was never confirmed to be Sam's wife in the end. Like if they weren't gonna give us Destiel at least give us Samellien.

[@No-jf2st]

“I’m bisexual and- [booing]”

[@Olivviaooo]

This legit made me cry ngl

[@KittyPikaChu]

Oml💀😭

[@darko1295]

Cmon, not that i'm okay with the audience reaction either way, but the booing only started when she said that she had noticed subtext in the show. They obviously weren't booing the fact that she mentioned her bisexuality

[@TheFFilipp]

darko1295 what’s wrong with noticing subtext?

[@darko1295]

@@TheFFilipp nothing, i specified that I don't approve of them booing her for asking that.

[@theladynim2]

The intensity of second-hand embarrassment I feel for whoever wrote that anti-Ruby slam poem is truly off the charts.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

Yeah, what is up with that? I'm coming from TUA fandom where they are have this major hatedom for Vanya and Allison (Luther too). Seriously, this keeps happening.

[@robinmitchells]

Both as a former supernatural fan and as someone who writes poetry, I felt the cringe hard.

[@ZakanaHachihaCBC]

@@katherinealvarez9216 I’m not sure about the comics (haven’t read them yet) but how can you hate Luther or Vonya? I’m not a big fan of Allison, but she’s still pretty cool.

[@kumatorahaltmanndreemurr]

@@katherinealvarez9216 If that's the case then I'm glad I don't take part in the TUA fandom. I love all the Hargreeves siblings and have no interest in arguing over which characters are good/bad.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

@@ZakanaHachihaCBC well, there’s all these opinions on how Luther is just like Reginald, and he keeps whining about being on the moon. Basically, they ignore that he’s traumatized, was isolated, is extremely uncomfortable with his body after what Reginald did to him and he’s still under his thumb. As for Vanya, it’s not enough that she’s the cause of the apocalypse. No, according to them, she is abusive and gaslights her sister and is totally self absorbed and probably psychopathic. Never mind that’s she was drugged up and brainwashed her entire life, she was being manipulated by a murder and um, they’re all self absorbed. Guess what? Abusive childhoods and trauma doesn’t make one turn out to be a well adjusted person. Oh and then there’s the ship war nonsense. In short, they want to demonize a Hargreeve and can’t be Allison because she’s the one with a brain cell, it’s can’t be Klaus because he’s the breakout character, nor Five because he had the best performance. And then there’s Diego, who cares about Grace. So it’s a choice between Luther with the moon jokes and Vanya with being the apocalypse maiden. Of course it had calm down a bit since Luther rejected Reginald and become the goofy big guy and Vanya got a girlfriend. That’s tumblr for ya. I keep it simple and just hate Reginald. Because he is the worst.

[@lyshayellowleaf]

Okay if you had “Obama follows a destiel Stan account” on your 2020 bingo card, congratulations

[@CaribouGutSludge]

Fucking what!

[@robinmitchells]

@@CaribouGutSludge yep, apparently he actually follows at least two different destiel stan accounts on twitter, and even when both twitter and tumblr started blowing up about it I don’t think he unfollowed either.

[@localinternetclown]

this timeline is cursed

[@scarlettNET]

Obama follows an account called Pissass. This is nothing new.

[@anib8863]

the *WHAT*

[@oMuStiiA]

Also seeing how often fans love trying to piece together puzzles even when they have to make one up, it makes me think of how spoiled the Gravity Falls fandom was with a creator who actively made complex puzzles, ciphers, scavenger hunts, etc, just for the fans to enjoy which hint at future plot points that would actually mean something and have a satisfying conclusion.

[@PaphvulMayle]

God, yes. It's so rare for mysteries in any given media to actually lead somewhere satisfying.

[@jamrock_shuffle]

It's actually ruined other shows for me bc I expect that level of care and am disappointed frequently

[@arsonvamp]

i too am spoiled by being in the deltarune/undertale fandom and forget that most creators of media are not, in fact, tobert “radiation” fox. both in being given a bunch of really cool mysteries and puzzles to solve and in also feeling like the creator respects their audience and wants them to have a good time with their story and the world(s) they’ve created. as well as toby just being absolutely unhinged and giving us lovingly crafted shitposts like the spamton sweepstakes lmao. i wish more writers would actually have fun not just making a thing, but making their audience want to actively engage with the thing and have fun and rewarding fandom experiences.

[@fictionfixer9512]

I love how SPN just...casually had time to show Sam's picket-fence life with an anonymous woman when he had another love interest, apparently, and that Cas, who was vital for 11 feckin seasons, wasn't even shown in the finale. Just. Quality right there lmao

[@CelesteBou]

The finale is also bad because in the previous three seasons, Sam, Dean and Cas had adopted a kid, Jack, who ends up being completely forgotten by them in 15x20 and became "God" at just 3 years old, which means the poor kid never got a normal life. Also, the last episode mentioned that Dean and Sam's abusive parents went to Heaven after all.

[@robinmitchells]

Not to mention Sam’s main love interest before blurry woman was deaf, so the writers either forgot about or completely sidelined a disabled character to give Sam his little happy, perfect life.

[@fictionfixer9512]

@@CelesteBou I mean, SPN forgot Adam Winchester even existed so...yeah, that's very on-brand for them :')

[@fictionfixer9512]

@@robinmitchells Woooow. SPN really hitting ableism at their finale to tick that last "ism" off the box, huh? :')

[@villanjo]

“When the only gay narratives are tied to death and misery, and that’s the only representation you get, it kinda sucks.” I’m getting Buffy flashbacks too...

[@florenciasanchez2107]

People who haven't watched Supernatural past season-10, or at all, be like: "castiel was killed! hate crime! #buryyourgays!".. Who's gonna tell them that on a season 15 episode, Cas asked his son to kill him for 1 hour so he could go to "turbo hell", talk to Ruby there and then came back UNSCRATCHED. People do not get that the problem is NOT that he died, which in fact he did to save HIS SON'S LIFE, the problem is that his resurrection happened /off-screen/. Dean's ending is much more tragic than Cas' .

[@doctorwholover1012]

Literally when I heard that they wanted his soul at its happiest for turbohell, I was like "so cas = Angel? If cas = Angel than Dean = buffy? Yikes"

[@rougestarlight4308]

I haven't watch Buffy, what happened?

[@chada4806]

@@florenciasanchez2107 i have never watched supernatural so I HAVE NO IEA WHAT ANY OF THAT MEEEAAANNNSS ;-----;

[@anzaia2164]

Sure, Tara did die tragically in order to develop Willows character, but... They were in a relationship for quite a long time on the show. In terms of representation, I really like them, actually. And also in all other terms, haha.

[@anonnexxania3094]

my favorite thing `is watching the number of ao3 fanfics, tagged "fix-it" within the supernatural tag, slowly ticking up after that episode came out

[@eveleene3613]

XD kinda my favorite tag in this fandom rn tbh

[@gentlesandladymen]

It’s like putting a band-Aid on a crashed car

[@eveleene3613]

@@gentlesandladymen ....its how I cope ; - ;

[@AmySkribble]

Ao3??

[@li_ka2]

Omg the weird apostrophe! Toby???