Sardonicast 181: Beast Games, No Country for Old Men feat.

[@ManCarryingThing]

Overjoyed that i look like a bookish Nosferatu (2024), thanks for having me on guys

[@cm5575]

Ha you do lol

[@theamazingsam1954]

Ever since I saw your film videos I knew yall would be perfect for an episode. Thank you Mr Man 🫡

[@pastapalads5598]

Doesn’t get much more flattering than looking like a Skarsgård

[@Matrixius]

@@ManCarryingThing dude, I’m a fan of your channel

[@Mae_halloween]

hipster Nofseratu

[@plasmasnake4774]

Man Carrying Sardonicast

[@herbalcoast358]

Man Carrying Thing fit right in and I feel like he made it one of the best episodes in ages

[@DolanDuking]

Man Carrying Episode

[@PauLtus_B]

Best since Jenny Nicholson?

[@JoeRCK]

I agree with most people here, if there was a petition to have a new third, I’d say have Man Carrying Things.

[@siphillis]

Wish granted

[@AimForMyHead81]

​@@siphillis Source?

[@George_Nakhle]

Man Carrying Thing NEEDS to be a permanent member of the pod

[@doubtfulhenry]

Mom, Dad, can we keep him?

[@Andythedrew1]

They kept him 😉

[@reeceloomis673]

Petition to make Jake a permanent third member on the pod

[@doubtfulhenry]

I second the motion

[@oriheller2852]

Agreed

[@artkub5396]

Who's Jake?

[@akshayhere]

​@@artkub5396he's the man carrying the thing

[@beErEy2324]

@@artkub5396use context clues please

[@ApocalypseMoose]

No Country For Old Men Carrying Things

[@TheBassicBassist]

No Country for Old Men is my favorite movie of all time. This discussion about it was absolutely fantastic. Thank you for covering it

[@meciocio]

No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood should be sold as a double feature

[@knurdyob]

it's so weird to see these channels that I follow for years but had no clue they even knew about each other, like different timelines are converging in the multiverse

[@Jezzascmezza]

The energy is overall better when there are three people versus two. Felt apparent from just the first five minutes.

[@heis147]

Nice to see the Thing Carrier on here!

[@fukyomammason]

MCT goes up on the guest top shelf with Jenny Nicholson.

[@tonywords6713]

I thought Dunkey and Amanda the Jedi had great chem too

[@fukyomammason]

@ The certainly were, and I could see them returning as guests. Man and Jenny had the chemistry to fill Ralph’s spot.

[@maciejszypelt7623]

RIP Ralph. It's a shame Mr Beast got him

[@rafaelbrandao4059]

This is No Podcast For Moviemakers

[@sloth6559]

This is one of the funniest episodes in quite a while. I had to catch my breath at points for laughing so much, great stuff.

[@awebb274]

MrBeast saw Squid Game and thought "What a great story that should be real!" and then ripped it off twice

[@DevyanshBahri]

This is an earth shattering crossover. Made me legit scream!

[@fitzfitzchivalry4538]

RIP Ralph. Its a shame the old men got him.

[@fakename467]

It ain’t no easy country, they got T!

[@aaronj1172]

Adam's not that old

[@danieltrevinoc]

Great guest, perfect convo and some good laughs, love this ep guys.

[@hookedonphoenix3112]

One of my favorite pieces of media. So much subtlety with the characters and their backgrounds, tension that isn’t artificially created by overly dramatic acting or score, and enough trust in the audience to let them put a lot of the pieces together. Really wish we got more things like this. Can’t wait for the next season of Beast Games, cus I think it’s gonna be even better!

[@toothbrushfromnisemonogatari]

Ok definitely my favorite guest so far! I loved the discussion of No Country for Old men too, felt longer than the usual movie discussions in the channel. One of my favorite movies ever.

[@HOTD108_]

I once farted directly into my phone and the IMDb app asked me if I wanted to rate Beast Games.

[@tonywords6713]

I hope u sanitized afterwards pink eye boy

[@aarongutierrez7705]

LET MAN CARRYING THINGS BE THE THIRD 😭😭 He’s like Ralph, if he wasn’t in a fishbowl at all times

[@thriayehm]

One of the most unexpected but most appreciated Sardonicast collaborations of all time

[@ColombianThunder]

1:54 bringing back the old Ralph intro 🥹

[@Andythedrew1]

Man Carrying Thing’s portrait makes him look like a guy from an old-timey western.

[@rocky-nm5wf]

Looks like he'd be a guy wearing a bowtie who keeps a shotgun behind the bar

[@ruminationstation4200]

You can tell Jimmy didnt grow up watching tv and that he thought studying reality tv was beneath him. He believes KZbin is the future of entertainment, rather than a distinct medium with differnt audience expectations. The reason most competition shows have mini and main events is because it gives each episode a 3 act structure. Producers are super diligent about creating a narrarive which they have in mind before theyve even wtarted filming and are continuously updating. While they will Frankenstein things together in the editing room, they dont just randomly film and find things jn the edit (which appears to be Jimmy's style). Jimmy ironically underestimated how manipulative these shows are. He is disinterested in people and what makes them tick, but that's what competitions reality is about. Its about creating heroes and villains; tragedies and triumphs. If he wasnt interested in that, he needed to do something more like a rotating weekly format where he invited influencers and celebrities to compete in antics restricted to just that episode. Nobody expects narratives; instead you rely on spectacle and either funny guests or funny commentators.

[@Unexpectedstuff]

TLDR: hubris

[@Matrixius]

Holy crap, man carrying thing carried the whole podcast. When will thing carry man?

[@KillahBeez94]

i know a lot of people brought it up already, but Jake should come more often. he fits so well.

[@carter_lovejoy]

Just watched No Country for Old for the first time last week! Perfect timing! Great timing!

[@therealmorganofficial]

Man you carried this thing

[@bettydougherty7392]

Can he stay?

[@Dog-999i]

It seems like Mr Beast learned how to make a game show from The Nostalgia Critic.

[@YaBoiBigNutz]

Helllloooo I'm Mr Beast. 12 year olds remember it so YOU don't have to!

[@xoxonaotchan_7902]

Nice to have a guest its been a while since there were 3 speakers

[@fin_is_sad]

The IMDb notification thing is most likely you watching the film on Amazon Video, or a Fire Stick, and having your IMDb account linked to your amazon account, or also maybe streaming from a device and IMDb picking it up on that device. Either that or it's some funky shit going on.

[@AriaStark-v3s]

There has been something far more serious since may 2023. It will be worse now. Thanks!

[@runningcommentary2125]

The weird thing about No Country For Old Men is that it’s a very grounded film that portrays how Hollywood tropes might realistically play out, but then it also has a silencer on a shotgun.

[@toothbrushfromnisemonogatari]

Let’s goooo! One of my favorite guests so far.

[@jakexdilla]

Fun fact: the young kid who gave his shirt to Anton at the end is the same boy who voiced Jack Marston in Red Dead Redemption.

[@tonywords6713]

Good connection! I know one of them is Caleb Landry Jones

[@sailorstarchild]

Oh my god, I can't believe you got the Mr. Beast for the intro.

[@larrycarls7221]

I have such weird relationship with man carrying things. I used to get his short skits in recomdended. Then I just saw his kubrick ranking thinking "hey, he is an intellectual, wellspoken film videos too"

[@tobias1075]

34:48 normally the host is rooting for the contestant as they are not the ones providing the prize. But in the beast show it's the host that is the one offering the prize

[@ruminationstation4200]

It's interesting considering how much Jimmy obsessively studied youtube for years that it doesn't seem like he so much glanced at reality tv. They seem to have made a lot of really amateur mistakes. For one thing, story building is everything. most competition shows roughly follow a 3 act structure. (If someone who hasn't had much screentime is suddenly featured heavily in the first act, they're either getting eliminated, injured, or having a mental breakdown) He should have gotten someone to study ANTM. A xompetition based reality show based on over the top spectacle that revolved around a celebrity and was not outright a kids who but was *incredibly* popular with kids Tyra was very often onsite during early seasons, but they only filmed her for the panels. This meant her presence was always the climax of the episode and fed into the idea she was a very important person. Beast isn't trying to be relatable, so being his own host just cheapens it. He honestly doesn't seem to understand that a reality show is different than a KZbin video. It seems like he mostly thought gh the difference was money without considering *why* professional reality shows have such big budgets (it's because good production value is expensive, and paying pros who know what they're doing is worth it)

[@AriaStark-v3s]

Billions and millions of dollars

[@DemonVoidStudios]

One of the best episodes!

[@mjr_schneider]

One day I too will ascend from long-time lurker to guest on this podcast. One day.

[@JDLaney-zk4wb]

Mr Beast truly feels like the final boss of internet capitalism.

[@HOTD108_]

Most final bosses in video games are at least charismatic.

[@robiu013]

it's the cormac mccarthy guy

[@HOTD108_]

McCarthyism on Sardonicast? Smh.

[@fromvault801]

What up Sardonibeasts?!? Will you brave the STANKY CHALLENGE?!?

[@AriaStark-v3s]

@@fromvault801 How would I even know if I did? Lol

[@adrienfourniercom]

please Alex, do a I hate Mr Beast video, like in the old time. The world needs it.

[@ahugabungabunga6991]

Great episode!

[@mpstudies]

@13:28 That Letterboxd pop-up has nothing to do with listening to the movie, if you already have the film open on the app before you watch it, there’s a button that takes up the whole width of the screen that prompts you to rate or add the film to a list. You’re probably just accidentally tapping that button since you already had it on the movie’s page.

[@Unexpectedstuff]

Probably that, because I did that exact thing (that man was carrying)

[@HOTD108_]

I've never had pop-ups on Letterboxd. I thought that was just an IMDb thing?

[@Gaberror404]

2:32 IVE ABANDONED MY CHILD

[@HOTD108_]

I'VE ABANDONED MY MILKSHAKE

[@haaa911]

Holy shit goated guest

[@xiTzSethx]

This new guy sounds awfully similar to Ralph if he had a functioning microphone

[@thebogking666]

Absolutely based no country convo bravo

[@allywon]

living for adum’s gasps during the interrogation section at “eternal sunshine of a spotless mind” & “lion king” mentions

[@Ehh.....]

YMS turn your phone off halfway through the film and turn it on after you finish and turn the film off to see if the pop up shows. If it doesnt then you'll know the phone is actively listening for credits. If it does then that means IMDB has access to you beyond your phone.

[@worldwartra]

I know it won't happen but I'd love to have MCT as a regular on here. He just fits perfectly.

[@artkub5396]

Ralph tries to sneak back in wearing fake glasses and mustache.

[@Redditfanboy-v2s]

Great video bro

[@waywardlaser]

You guys honestly have such a good rapport, Jake should definitely come back again soon.

[@sidrolf]

3 of the handomest boys here, love it!

[@scacknewman]

Excellent guest

[@hpalpha7323]

I watched No Country for Old Men a couple years back because I kept hearing about how great it was. Kept recognizing scene after scene the whole time. Turns out I had already watched it, but I somehow went on thinking for years that I didn't. I definitely remember it now, but it didn't leave an impression on me at all the first time

[@Stormhawk777]

I'm subbed and aware of MCT from him book/Stormlight content! He seems a gem

[@hugotsunami3850]

good guest!

[@HumanBornFresh]

finally. man carrying podcast.

[@7head843]

These are such perfect movie picks for him lol

[@ajzeg01]

Mr. Beast is the real-life Chris McLean.

[@BrickyBobby]

Good to see gay ed kemper on love this ep

[@sbubbt2318]

BRING! HIM! BACK!

[@Jack-x8v]

Yo I loved this dude you had as guest. Please bring him back

[@hideironsgamingdump8499]

The Spotify versions get cut off before the end, the last couple of shows have been doing this.

[@arderdelzorro9465]

I know they aren't quite the same, but I've recently been watching Taskmaster. I feel like that is such an amazing example of what a GOOD game show is. It's fun, engaging, and is hosted by a likeable person. Feel like the beast man could learn a lot from that

[@Mausso]

I saw No Country for Old Men in the worst way possible: On AMC. It turned a 2 hours into, I believe, 5-6 hours. The constant commercial breaks increased the tension because you're already on the edge of your seat with the movie and then you have to wait 5 minutes. It was cliff hanger after cliff hanger. Finally, made it to the end and I was pissed. I later re-watched the movie without commercials, the way it was intended, and I enjoyed it. It's just interesting how runtime/commercials can ruin an amazing movie.

[@kinhamid9665]

KEEP THE THING-CARRYING MAN ON THE PODCAST

[@mileidyclass]

I agree with you guys so much on the drinking age in America and American culture in general being too puritanical and draconian, and I'm an American myself. I hope it changes some day.

[@tonywords6713]

NETWORK and Dog Day Afternoon are two more classics that benefit from having no soundtrack

[@FazerGS]

I'm with Adam on this one. Squid Game: The Challenge is really entertaining and impressive. I just watched Squid Game for the first time and watched the reality show right after. Being late to the party, I had no idea there was controversy around the show at all. I'm glad I dodged the bullet on that "discourse".

[@ruminationstation4200]

I also agree conceptually that while ethics is a factor to consider, it's not the end all, be all of the conversation. There's weird inconsistencies in which people arbitrarily decide they do and don't care. When I feel iffy about financially supporting a title, I just pirate it. If I recommend it, I tell people to consider doing the same. All the reality tv I grew up in was unethical. Basically every last one. Ive kind of just consider it inherit to the genre tbh, because they're not unionized. Everyone who isn't covered by a union contract gets treated like scum in Hollywood

[@gnalkhere]

So Adum's predicament about IMDbreen is thinking you've seen a movie and pushes you to rate it. On the browser, you click away for maybe 5 seconds it'll pop up wiith a prompt to rate it, or refresh. It never happened on the app for me

[@GKJusticar55]

I always interpreted the Sheriffs dreams as his moral axioms or the symbols of his referential figures degrading into dust and the pain of it happening is impossible to convey. As if his tiredness is a symptom of the twilight of his world and worldview.

[@alana_rr]

omg make him a regular!

[@Firemandan86]

I think the people have spoken. Man Carrying Thing is the third member of the podcast now

[@ArtWonder1]

The collab we didn't deserve but needed

[@knightofanguish7399]

I like your persistence Adam

[@noahboy7309]

"Mr Beast Island" would be a nightmarish prison sentence

[@janpopovic1773]

Good on Adum for not mentioning Confused Matthew throught the entire movie discussion

[@AriaStark-v3s]

Mati is just a girl archiver

[@ashcrimson5148]

RIP Ralph. It's a shame he farted and died.

[@sandequation2653]

Who knew Man would be such a great podcast guest?

[@ashcrimson5148]

Dare I say, man carried the podcast? jk love adam and alex.

[@tofutoph]

And now he's a permanent member.

[@hardxmeister]

Daaaaaamn need this man carrying himself here

[@LockpickGamer]

MAN CARRYING THINGS??? LETS GOOOO!

[@Astrosk1er]

I don’t even watch this and I’d like more with this specific trio

[@AndresGomez-ct7qb]

Adam's right about Mr Beast being uncancellable. There'll be a few drama videos "exposing" him and he'll get a bit of pushback, but even if those videos get millions of views and he loses 10 million viewers, it doesn't even make a dent in his fanbase.

[@ashcrimson5148]

There already were some videos exposing him but people have moved on to the next drama already.

[@LieutenantP1ckle]

Most hype episode in years

[@chainswordcs]

Adam's theory about the IMDb app is plausible. And if microphone access is disabled, perhaps in the backend it could be asking Siri to listen for a given ContentID match or something...

[@davidyurch4446]

A lot of the way I evaluate films was informed by watching Confused Matthew's reviews. There are still things he's said that I apply to films today, but when he hated on films I liked, it drove me insane. There's something kind of freeing about hearing other people who I think are equally intelligent give a 10/10 to one of Confused Matthew's most hated films, while giving a 1/10 to his favorite film (Moulin Rouge).

[@AliAMotamed]

The IMDb “ do you want to rate this movie?” Happens to me all the time, just when I am perusing IMDb, not necessarily when I’ve watched said film. Just because I’m on a movie clicking on the cast and stuff, it assumes that I’ve watched it for some reason. So I get that pop-up all the time, but it’s usually inaccurate at guessing whether I’m watching a movie or something. I don’t think the IMDb app is listening to audio for me.

[@TheMentalLizard]

I got that popup when looking at the cast of Gabriel Knight Sins of the Fathers (For those who don't know this is a point and click adventure game from 1993) I think it just throws it up randomly.

[@Jezzascmezza]

I feel the "rate this title" pop-up on IMDb is completely random. Sometimes, it pops up for things I haven't watched, sometimes for things I'm planning to watch, and sometimes for things I am watching.

[@JBrodo]

I scrolled forever to find someone giving feedback about IMDB, thank you 😁

[@sergioribeiro7725]

It’s a shame Ralph died in Episode 6 of Beast Games

[@Gus1494]

SPOILERS One of my favorite choices made in NCFOM is having Llewelyn's death be offscreen. Throughout the film Bell's character is reckoning with the struggle of trying to do good in the world, but he can't make a dent because the lack of order and justice. Not showing Llewelyn's death and having the audience learn about it after is so powerful because it reinforces the futility that Bell has been forced to come to terms with. Llewelyn becomes just another causality caught up the violent nature of people.

[@michaelm2618]

I recommend brining Man Carrying Thing back to the show

[@CinemaFrogfu]

Josh Brolin talked about No Country for Old Men on Joe Rogan podcast, some more inisghts on the film. Really funny, about how Javier Bardem hated his haircut and more stuff