Sardonicast 54: Sonic the Hedgehog, The Meyerowitz Stories

[@Enel97]

Finally they acknowledged the "Sardonicast in a nutshell"

[@JaydevRaol]

Lol! I didn't knew about it so I just looked it up and it was really pretty accurate XD

[@skt8929]

@@LiamDoesStuffOfficial oh my bad last video they talked about the guy who complained all of the intros. But they did leave comments on the original video

[@LiamDoesStuffOfficial]

@@skt8929 Oh ok, it's all good

[@WiloPolis03]

AH I WAS JUST ABOUT TO REQUEST THEM TO DO THAT IN THE COMMENTS Freaking legends. Let 2/24/2020 (or earlier if you're a Patron apparently) be the day that they acknowledged that massive legend

[@fanfan9554]

good job on the guy who made it, liam does stuff

[@LiamDoesStuffOfficial]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE SHOUTOUT! YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO AND I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY DID! Been a fan of the podcast since Episode 1 and fans of all 3 of you way before then. You guys are literally my idols and I genuinely have learned a very large portion about movies and filmmaking from you guys. I'm so happy you enjoyed the videos! Gotta go fast! 💙

[@JaydevRaol]

Your videos are really fun man. Subscribed!

[@danbam3411]

Liam Does Stuff get the fuck out of your bedroom for once lmao loser

[@connorw2k]

They should get you to do the intro on the episode closest to April Fools Day.

[@tonystonks4489]

@@LiamDoesStuffOfficial why ain't you subbed to this channel?

[@LiamDoesStuffOfficial]

@@tonystonks4489 WAT? Yeah I am. ???

[@fey2450]

I liked the part in Sonic where Eggman went "Ever wonder where your tax dollars are going?"

[@spencexxx]

I'm sure you nearly laughed yourself out of your fursuit.

[@bloodspittingspartan5002]

@@joaosantos5503 as lame jokes do.

[@bloodspittingspartan5002]

@@joaosantos5503 yeah, you did get roasted

[@jordannewitt]

Sonic is short for sardonic

[@duranies4486]

The Illuminati want a word with you

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

Gotta go >:C

[@KO-eu6jv]

Harvard wants to know your location

[@BigItalian7]

yes

[@TT-qc2mu]

Liam got his shout out!!!

[@sebandrews4395]

He deserved it tbh, I loved his Alex impression

[@spencexxx]

Who cares? Shoutouts are like Birthday shoutouts. They are interesting to exactly 2 people

[@TT-qc2mu]

Just happy that someone who worked hard on a good video got recognition.

[@GerudoMagi]

THAT CLOCKWORK ORANGE FANART THOUGH

[@Saberspark]

Glad y'all felt the same way about the Sonic movie. It was surprising how many people praised the movie when it was just meh. Fun for kids sure but nothing outstanding

[@justyouraveragejoe5534]

Saber, when are you gonna be on the podcast?

[@dajokahbaby1506]

Saberspark yeah how hard would it have been for them just to make it a animated adventure with Sonic and Tails? instead of Smurfs, but fast

[@tyuiopt0]

People on twitter acting like it’s the greatest movie of all time, a divine creation sent down by god himself

[@pikiperry]

hi saber

[@danbam3411]

Saberspark people like it they like it. Oh well.

[@RickRaptor105]

"It's like real movie because it's long!" Adam's Oldboy review is more of a real movie than Shane Dawson's "documentaries"

[@TheFreepie]

But it has such "professional" editting!

[@shirleysonsproductions6187]

TheFreepie cheesy “creepy” sound effects with dramatic music.

[@lorddevilfish5868]

You’re videos are probably better

[@jonathansefcik473]

@@lorddevilfish5868 As a RickRaptor105 subscriber, I can assure you his content is better than Shane's.

[@SonicHaXD]

15:32 he actually does! He made a whole review on KZbin XD

[@technicallystupid25]

Timecodes: 00:00 - Intro 10:54 - Sonic the Hedgehog 32:18 - The Meyerowitz Stories (Spoilers) 54:25 - Q&A

[@sanatoriumnugget6598]

These are useless now

[@Classicscruising]

@@sanatoriumnugget6598 yyyyooo

[@gnalkhere]

The final film i worked on in uni was editing a film about a dwarf getting a job on the set of The Wizard of Oz and it went from a film with a plot to a Lynchian demonic dreamscape due to actors dropping out. It was a whole thing, very messy, but I had a great time working on it and I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat because i liked the crew

[@plantemor]

Is there anywhere to watch It? :D what is it called?

[@deltoroperdedor3166]

.

[@StanislovasRiska]

@@plantemor yes!

[@tonywords6713]

Cool plot idea

[@gnalkhere]

@@plantemor The Man Behind the Curtain it's on vimeo vimeo.com/275235071

[@jayvonwebb4864]

1:20 yoo they mentioned my boy. You can hear him scream with excitement

[@jayvonwebb4864]

@Kyler Campion I wish

[@hexipolar8158]

So glad to see you mention Liam Does Stuff! I love both of his Sardonicast in a nutshell videos.

[@MaleTears]

Blue streak speeds by! Sonic The Hedgehog! TOO FAST...for the naked eye! Sonic The Hedgehog!

[@michaelpatton3477]

I was so waiting for this to be the intro.

[@yggdrasil3]

Hearing Liam doing an impression of Alex doing an impression of Adam was the funniest shit I've ever heard.

[@ajzeg01]

Fun Fact: My uncle used to do a lot of hospitality for touring artists. He’d get them stuff that they couldn’t easily get elsewhere, if you know what I mean. I think he most recently worked with Snoop Dogg, or at least that’s the biggest artist he worked with recently. Anyway, one day The Wiggles were in town and they called my uncle up to ask him for some of his weed. True story.

[@jakemoen2237]

I want to believe

[@idontcheckmynotifications]

Jake Moen did you know they did an 18+ relief concert

[@jknetwork6211]

“Tickle your whistle” is gonna be my new catchphrase.

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

I think you guys should cover Jennifer's Body, specifically talking about the cult following it has attained and whether the film has really earned it.

[@haydengallina5554]

Yeah I watched that again recently because of all the talk it gets nowadays...and I still don’t like it lol. Don’t get the hype at all. I actually think Diablo Cody is a talented writer, but it didn’t work with that film.

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

@@haydengallina5554 It's a weird one in her career. I didn't really like it either but I can see why it was misunderstood at the time. The pacing and storytelling were just too slow for me.

[@Lifesizemortal]

I don't think anyone has mentioned that movie in the last 10 years

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

@@Lifesizemortal That's not true. I think it's cult following became really evident in 2017.

[@dungeon-wn4gw]

@@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 I had no idea lmao

[@CalByrne]

Sonic doing Ramadan is already a comic

[@bogardeth]

My favorite movie-specific video essays are Every Frame a Painting and Lessons From the Screenplay.

[@sebandrews4395]

They finally acknowledged Sardonicast In A Nutshell!

[@yummybacon8893]

Clockwork Orange art at the start... I would love if you guys talk about that film in a future episode.

[@ozzyisthirsty8105]

This episode indeed tickled my whistle

[@lorddevilfish5868]

Am I the only one who is more excited for Adum’s Lion King (2019) review more than almost any movie coming out this year (save for Dune)? (Typo)

[@leomcardleproductions]

@@pilfresertaks and The French Dispatch

[@Thecatdrums3]

Don’t forget Indiana Jones and the please forget the last one

[@yggdrasil3]

The Green Knight looks promising.

[@alex-ie8tp]

and new Fincher movie (supposedly)

[@jacksonpaul3804]

I’m thinking of ending things should be great too

[@worrywirt]

I watched the impression videos and came back and couldn’t stop laughing at the accuracy holy shit

[@Kullen64]

I actually wanted to see a Click review haha.

[@officialkidwizard]

Next Week's Recommendation: Click

[@moomoo1200]

“Get real” -D. Lynch

[@Kullen64]

Joseph Ellis It is! Saw it in the theater haha.

[@arbelcohen8280]

talk about video essays, watch every one of EmpLemon's Never Ever, the one about Dale genuinely made me cry and so did the one about Hungrybox. The guy's great and really passionate about what he talks about.

[@charlescalthrop2535]

Surely Ralph has extensive ghost experience from the filming of Paranormal Hunter Ghosts.

[@DJGamingSmash]

Timecodes: 00:00 - Intro 10:54 - Sonic the Hedgehog 32:18 - The Meyerowitz Stories (Spoilers) 54:25 - Q&A Alex recommendation for next episode is The Wizard of Oz (1939)

[@hoopdee6760]

Lets get internet historian on the podcast!

[@GrimThrasher]

i wanted to see the first design of Sonic in the Movie as a failed attempt to clone Sonic by Eggman with the blue hair he got from Sonic

[@elliotwilson7050]

The last thing that tickled my whistle this much was my uncle.

[@El_Wanderer91]

Hold up...

[@pleaseenteraname8211]

mine tickled my prostate

[@YourBlackLocal]

Waiting for City Of God to be recommended

[@ChAn-dv9to]

Waiting for Boogie Nights to be recommended

[@ProgPro96]

Waiting for an S Craig Zahler movie to be recommended

[@ChAn-dv9to]

@@ProgPro96 SHOTGUN SAFARI!

[@posthumano8679]

Im waiting for Zoolander.

[@willmartin4234]

Would love it if you could cover The return to Oz as well, freaked me out as a kid.

[@xomyakify]

This really became Joe Rogan of a podcast towards the end

[@MrJoker3571]

What a fitting way to open the podcast......

[@orzen_the_orzo933]

30:42 Apparently, Sonic originally just lived on Earth with other people like him and other humans Also, Movie Sonic and Baby Sonic were added into Sonic Forces Speed Battle, the mobile online running game

[@cheque5491]

Topic for a future episode I'd love to hear you men discuss: The duo of Damien Chazelle and Justin Hurwitz, what makes their work so amazing (specifically Whiplash and La La Land), and what you look forward to seeing from the 2 in the future.

[@kirstymacca4384]

Is Adam uploading his 2020 Oscars ‘Adam and Pals’?

[@officialkidwizard]

Should be out in the next few days

[@1l9e9o4]

I felt like the begging scene in the meyerwits set a good tone. The whole plot is basically just emotional boiling points that we get to so slowly we don't notice until we boil over. The cut after the screams I think more show how we reminisce about how we were when we were angry. It goes blank, you know you probably yelled some things, but it doesn't really matter. What you remember, like danny through the whole movie slowly, is how you got angry in the first place.

[@RickRaptor105]

SammyClassicSonicFan actually reviewed the movie and yes, he loved it

[@madlovee]

liam really does somehow look like a mix of the sardonicast members

[@qmcepic]

This podcast is a whistle tickler

[@antonioortizburciaga1158]

I just watched the Sardonicast in a Nutshell videos for the first time. They act and sound particulary similar to their impressions in this episode.

[@senorken491]

sonic flossing twice in the movie was cinematic achievement to me

[@benniferlopez488]

alex is one of the most down to earth movie critics i’ve ever seen

[@JaydevRaol]

1:26:33 - "Even if a terrible character is being glorified, well that's the point of it being a work of fiction. It's a wok fiction. Don't try to control what types of thoughts can people have or what types of ideas people can communicate" Adam can you please elaborate more on this in the comments or in the next episode. Bcoz what do you think when the a character is being glorified without any substance or commentary or any greater point behind it? I have had many conversations about this but I still don't know how I feel about it.

[@NickDiVona]

The ghost stories rant at 1:16:00 is great

[@yggdrasil3]

1:27:50 To be fair, Birds of Prey is also a comedy, so people automatically take it less seriously, while Joker was more intent on being a dark drama.

[@shemphoward666]

ben stiller's son in meyerowitz stories was hilarious. noah baumbach is great at writing children chracaters.

[@cranberrysace]

U guys should do an ep on the cornetto trilogy!!! My favorite movies I’d love to hear u all go into more depth of them all

[@thefilmseeker]

49:54 Alex is acting like there's never been a movie where an actor cameos as themselves even though the main cast is playing actual characters...

[@soitssparkie]

Alex is really channelling some JAR energy in this one

[@sid0100]

Sparkie wdym

[@soitssparkie]

@@sid0100 JAR Media, Alex's other podcast

[@sid0100]

Sparkie ye ik about the podcast but how is he channeling that energy in this one

[@soitssparkie]

@@sid0100 the sonic segment had spurts of the manic energy Alex usually has in jar episodes

[@sid0100]

Sparkie oh ye lol

[@nesrenutkan5213]

Get my boy Karsten on the show

[@Fomortiis100]

Just started, calling it now, Ralph likes Sonic more than Joker

[@dungeon-wn4gw]

Well Ralph went to film school so he has ultimate authority

[@mabusestestament]

I get the feeling that going to film school made him less of an authority.

[@angreydoggo4357]

Its not an overly convoluted 4 hour long film with long silent takes and isn't shot in Black and White, so of course he doesn't like it.

[@cocokolah8567]

He didn't even go see Sonic... "fake it till you make it" huh, Ralph?

[@MJGianesello]

So many butthurt joker fans in this thread, jesus, it's almost like we live in a society

[@moondusk8385]

Yeah the magic of Sardonicast to ease the crappy Monday blues away.. thank you guys for making my evening a little better.

[@chrioyuuij6450]

Alex actually likes Sonic now. Life is good.

[@_Azagoth_]

Channel Criswell is my personal favorite film video essay channel. amazing videos. EDIT: epic, Alex shouted him out

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

Internet Historian has gone from elaborate shitposts to beautiful, funny video essays. I've caught a couple of his editing streams and he feels effortlessly funny even when he's working. We need a full episode dedicated to the Chris Chan documentary from Geno Samuel - it's on 30 episodes as of posting this comment. Also, Down The Rabbithole - Fredrik Knudsen is really really talented and Adum knows him..

[@vinnycaprezzi4598]

I love that Clockwork Orange animation at the intro.

[@SC-mm6vz]

Guys, let's make fun of Alex's culture!

[@WiloPolis03]

Hey, uh, Adam, me and Alex would like to say something

[@acetrigger1337]

the Success of the Sonic Movie shows how they tried very hard to not fuck-up in the Writing. ...now imagine getting to see that trailer after all your hardwork. Writer: ...oh shit...

[@makiaveli1997]

Just so everyone knows, the animation studio didn’t close because of Sonic. It was closed because of reasons independent from the movie from the parent company MPC. Paramount had nothing to do with it. Also the amount to fix Sonic was $5 mil, which is still a lot but not $20 mil.

[@EddieInFrame]

There was a Southland Tales reference in Sonic the Hedgehog

[@getmario64]

Well "Sonic the Hedgehog" is a fine movie. Whatever they want the movie to be safe after the changes that they didn't find spectacular of the Sonic design, it's what they really want to be good and be interesting for most children and Sonic fans alike.

[@liamdude5722]

You now need to have Gibby on your podcast. He even has a KZbin channel

[@Jargon]

I feel like Sonic's previous design reflects what a lot of creative directors do to make a name for themselves, when they decide to tweak a known character juuust enough to be a reimagining of the initial design.

[@vincenttapia2037]

To be fair, I really think they just wanted make sonic actually fit in the real world. But unfortunately, a realistic blue hedgehog with humanoid features looks terrible no matter what any one thinks will look terrible. But thank you for that new perspective.

[@ZakaZ1996]

​@@vincenttapia2037 The old design was an executive decision actually, Executives just HOPED people would be open to it. From interviews from the cast and crew, they feel very passionate about the film (Despite the budget constraints they had to do the plot they did), and Jeff Fowler very likely used the backlash as leverage against them to change it to what they wanted in the first place

[@vincenttapia2037]

@@ZakaZ1996 oh.

[@anthonyhenriques7654]

I still can't get over how Adum sounds almost exactly like Tina from _Bob's Burgers_

[@mad_the_monk]

Nice try Adum but we all know that meow at the start was you secretly masking your furry mating call with a joke

[@Nocturne_Duskclaw]

Wouldn't his mating call me more of a whinny or neighing sound?

[@nowhereman6019]

@@Nocturne_Duskclaw well he's said he finds big cats attractive, ie Scar, he just identifies as a horse.

[@lilsouffle]

Get Karsten, Cosmonaut, or Taylor in here

[@manicrainbow8577]

Ralph just compared “ a ghost story” to “Austin powers 3”..... I... I think he is my least favorite of the Sards now

[@_Azagoth_]

Foundflix is the best ending explained guy because he's funny and does random horror/indie movies which basically means you dont have to see them, or he does one on a film like The Endless, which no one would have heard of without it and thats a great film.

[@gavin8927]

it’s kind of funny that ralph says some people make video essays that only sum up the movie and have no other substance to it when that’s exactly what he did in his Parasite review

[@slavaosokin3521]

YES I'VE BEEN USING THAT GOTTA GO FAST JOKE FOR 5 YEARS AND SOMEONE ELSE ACKNOWLEDGED IT

[@adama.7735]

The redesign actually only cost around $5 million.

[@maddycz]

"ㅂ" from 봉 (Bong) is indeed pronounced kind of between "b" and "p"

[@tomschult133]

Ryan Hollinger is underrated!! Great essayist.

[@tomschult133]

Also Digibro.

[@gocookies77]

"What are some of your favorite essay videos out there?" -"Theres some real trash out there man..."

[@marco0o00o]

Ralph where’s best of 2019 Alex where’s best of 2019 Adum where’s oscars 2020 please I need that sweet content no rush tho love you all Edit: R̶a̶l̶p̶h̶ ✅ Alex A̶d̶u̶m̶ ✅

[@kingusernamelxixthemagnificent]

Adum said on his twitter that Adum&Pals Oscars is coming soon, possibly this week.

[@WiloPolis03]

IHE isn't doing a full list, just 11 worst and eventually his annual superhero list

[@marco0o00o]

Wilo Polis Thats sad if true, last years movie list with all the different heads was great

[@heleneyengoyan2075]

ralph already released it

[@marco0o00o]

Helene Yengoyan yep i tried to cross his name out on the edit but it looks like doo doo on mobile

[@MidnightAvalon]

The Korean consant for "B" can be used as "P" as well.

[@MidnightAvalon]

@마이마이 traditionally I believe you are right but in a more modern sense I've heard both.

[@AkiraLionPilot]

Every time IHE says something positive about Sonic he immediately backpedals afterwards and says “errr I don’t care about Sonic anyway” or “errr it’s stupid” Like Alex, it’s okay to like things. You don’t have to hate everything all the time

[@Vincent1808]

F for Fake is also a fantastic Video Essay by Orson Welles!

[@elvegano7684]

I wanna think that them saying how disgusting and trash the mushroom world is actually a diss towards nintendo

[@benk4088]

I really want to hear them talk about ‘Brazil’, but they’ve all watched it and rated it 5* so I don’t know that someone will recommend it.

[@dajokahbaby1506]

yeah the Sonic movie still should’ve been animated instead of another random guy meets a talking animal type of story we got. idk imagine a Studio Ghibli or Hayao Miyazaki Sonic movie, which might sound weird, but the Sonic games (at least the original ones) have always been about Sonic basically fighting against pollution. and the plot might actually be better than “eh kids might like it”.

[@tonywords6713]

People always say this with Miyazaki (usually with Zelda instead of Sonic) but it really wouldn’t work for his tone or style plus he tends to stick to more original, mature storylines. Also he probably wouldn’t want to work under huge studio deadlines and executive notes where he’d have no freedom basically.

[@JustJoeying]

Didn't think I'd see Roach Dawg Jr critique the animation of the Sonic movie today.

[@dajokahbaby1506]

tonywords true, but i’ll still think it’ll work. plus he does make more “child-like” movies tho, but yeah he definitely wouldn’t work a company as big and possibly more restricting like sega.

[@aerhiencre]

We need that nutshell intro as the permanent intro

[@getmario64]

Meyerowitz Stories felt very similar dilemma subjects compare to Marriage Story.

[@jaycartier7166]

Adam predicted the sonic sequel perfectly holy shit lmao

[@Charles12]

the movie was a hit in its opening weekend, obviously anyone can tell they were getting a sequel

[@Alex-cw3rz]

How could IHE not mention ChuckleVision and Horrible Histories

[@dayenknight8117]

A channel I think you guys should check out is Raycevick, he’s a very in depth video essay creator on gaming. His videos have a ton of artistic quality to them and his insight/research into what he talks about is really interesting. Honestly he’d make a great guest for sardonicast

[@tonywords6713]

Thanks!

[@G-LukeJA]

Fuck yeah Sonic tickles MY whistle!

[@MistressHela]

That video was honestly the most tone deaf one Shane has made. In between all the chucky cheese bullshit there's a really harrowing story of his friend being abused and possibly almost human trafficked. Like wtf dude

[@munjee2]

>Sardonicast >Sdonicast >Sonicast

[@Tacom4ster]

Umm Alex, the Minions studio did not made the Sonic movie, they are making the Mario movie

[@Kullen64]

Yeah that bothered me too. The Sonic movie actually had some awesome animators behind it. One of which even worked on Sonic Mania.

[@jathinreddy460]

Feels gud to see the bois again.

[@spencexxx]

Adum, wants his voice described: It's nasal. There, happy?

[@liamdude5722]

What about Reign Over Me and Funny People?

[@tuckcon4316]

Is it just me or does it seem like every episode is episode 54?

[@nanananananananananananana9430]

Please, do one on Perfect Blue and Angel's Egg

[@dragoniraflameblade]

So many anime movies they could do that don't fall into the 'anime tropes' that seems to drive them away.

[@noblegas7073]

I just watched Angel’s Egg. It’s on YT in 1080i (iirc) and is only 70 minutes long. I thought it was pretty great, I’ll watch it again sometime. Perfect Blue is also wonderful, just need to get by some of the spotty animation early on in the film. Otherwise it’s really fantastic. I’ll have to cop-out and still cite “Akira” as my favourite anime film though.

[@michaelangelo2192]

Adum watched Perfect Blue because ppl say that it is similar to Black Swan. He gave it a 7/10 and said that the elements he appreciated in Black Swan were not the same as in Perfect Blue so he doesn't think they are *that* similar.

[@nanananananananananananana9430]

@@michaelangelo2192 Yeah, I heard about it and I personally really disagree. While I do agree Black Swan is not really a rip off, Black Swan still takes a lot of elements from "Perfect Blue" and those elements were for me, far more executed. Perfect Blue was a far more layered and carefully constructed film compared to Black Swan. Black Swan didn't do much of a good job at showing how the character descends and also that a lot of the crazy imagery isn't as meaningful and it's mostly as just there to show character having illusionations despite not showing that well how the character descends. It just feels underdeveloped in how it was constructed, a little too rushed and I felt more strong emotions with Perfect Blue.

[@mytime991]

Katsuhiro Otomo Memories would be amazing. It's genuinely one of the best anthology film i have ever seen.

[@mitchellgeorge6031]

You guys should talk about Das Boot.