Keo & Zels: Boklash a thing of beauty

The Boks balanced power with panache to clinch the Rugby Championship title and celebrate Eben Etzebeth's record 128th Test with a comprehensive win against Los Pumas.

[@SARugbymagcoza32-12]

WhatsApp Channel and Spotify links Below: WhatsApp: whatsapp.com/channel/0029Vaiq92mCRs1imbH5u009 Spotify: open.spotify.com/episode/3jaIhsl6xn9y3StFAIHg3g?si=k71-BBiFSlOlA75NP25lQg

[@Alias-gy3tz]

I agree, the Unions should make deals with smaller stadiums for the URC games. Playing in what looks like empty stadiums takes away from the game.

[@David-m7r9f]

Ox for world player of the year.

[@claudescholtz1055]

At loosened? Maybe as a tightwad but that is Frans, you can't go pass Kolbe

[@nox6885]

I agree. Most dominant Prop in the world at the minute. Incredible in the loose too

[@sakabula2357]

PSDT

[@arshedfazal]

@@sakabula2357Kwagga Smith for player of the year!

[@sakabula2357]

@@arshedfazal nah...I love Kwagga but PSDT puts in 80 minutes each week and gets Man of the Match in most...look at that WC final...

[@mihlalifaltien4176]

Ireland can definitely keep a screenshot of the world rankings in their trophy cabinet

[@mjribes]

That's my standard reply to the Irish trolls - "write that on a postit and put it in your trophy cabinet"

[@ChrisBornman-tb4fe]

Please dont forget the input that Daan put into the forwads. Without the ball Tony annnot execute his plans. Daan must also get his praise.

[@Magz-101]

Absolutely! And that just shows how smart Rassie is. He looks at the game holistically, the master of the puzzle

[@albertmurphy6299]

I thought you were over enthusiastic with your prediction of Boks by 30 last week. When they won by 41 I immediately thought of you and took my hat of for your vision, well done!!!

[@jonasezekiel3829]

Damian de Allende is the most underrated bok of all time.

[@getridofneocons]

True and moerat the most overated

[@Alias-gy3tz]

Handre Pollard is highly underrated, especially in SA. Morne Steyn was the most underrated Springbok back in the day. DDA gets his flowers, not enough, but he is regarded as one of the best, if not he best 12, in the world by many. .

[@mattm7426]

​@@Alias-gy3tzPollard is only rated by people with high rugby IQ. Normal people don't analyse the game enough to see what he does

[@84Zanie]

Totally agree! When he gets the ball, he is dangerous!!!

[@chantalottino1671]

Truth💯

[@marksony6123]

I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed no mentions of the Boks in the Breakdown. 😂

[@sakabula2357]

JK suddenly went on "holiday".....

[@vinceroos]

Why do you watch that kak?

[@ad2040]

As bitter as an aloe 😂

[@heyeksay]

I think it’s high praise that they don’t dare mention 4 x 🏉🌍🏆 champions with all the kak that comes out of their mouths, that would feel dirty 🤮

[@marksony6123]

@@vinceroos because I’m a masochist 😅

[@ArnoVogel]

We all notice Dr Ricky Louw( Rasie) and Tonyball. But we have to give much credit to Daan Humman for what he does with that powerful scrum

[@South_Affy]

Hahah… throwing Zels under the bus in the first 2 minutes. Gold 😂

[@kurtdixon4700]

Eish 😂you guys talk the best k** ever! 😂 Love the show, seriously

[@seansayer7684]

I think Rassie is pissed with the rest of the world saying we can only win a WC playing our boring style. Hence Tonyball is here to stay for this cycle. Its a vendetta. Rassie style.

[@andrewwarren3566]

Being at Mbombela stadium amongst the Mbomb squad will live with me forever, man what a game!!!🎉 I saw so many positives,I am stoked.

[@sakabula2357]

Did you see the guy who ran on the field after the game and got tackled lights out...

[@mariovangreunen1310]

Zels, you complained when we had a close contest against nz this year, and now you complain cause we are too dominant???? You say now that games against the boks should be more contestable, yet you complained when it was close against nz???? What is your deal, bruh?

[@zeemeister1]

I think he is talking about the change we are making in our style. I agree it's a dicey decision that will only tell us if we are doing the right thing as time progresses. Then you have to consider if you don't change your game you will be found out at some point.

[@Vegasandfamous]

His upset that Jacques is not there defensive coach. Also can’t quite figure him out, that being Zels.

[@jacquesvanzyl8284]

😂😂😂😂

[@Magz-101]

Those no-look passes from Manie…man, the guy is an exceptional play maker. And he does it so effortlessly, hence I was so mad at people insulting him, not appreciating he was the general at Twickenham when we mauled the ABs

[@nathanyuhlmoheng3187]

Breakdown didnt even review the bok game🙈

Congratulations to the world RUGBY Champions the Springboks. Eagerly awaiting for the matches with Scotland, England and Wales

[@MegaPrinsloo]

I would like to see how many people unsubrcribed from SkyNz's channel because thay are such a bunch of sore losers. The comment section on that last video was just a negative space when I checked.

[@TheFarmtonian1783]

Mark suggested our reaction to the Haka may indicate an inferiority complex towards New Zealand. Similarly, I believe our fascination with The Breakdown, a New Zealand rugby program, and their Springboks analysis, stems from this complex. It's puzzling they'd highlight our success amid their struggles. Would someone struggling really praise their opponents? The Breakdown features three former All Blacks players. The idea they'd remain impartial is amusing, to say the least. 😂

[@MegaPrinsloo]

@@TheFarmtonian1783 That makes sense. My problem with them at this moment is not that they praise our performance or feed our inferiority complex with the latest show. My issue is that they could have taken 30 seconds out of their whole show just to congratulate the winners of the championship they were a part of. Part of last week's title of their show was to point out that we lost to Arg and nothing this week (not at all suggesting we should have been in the title this week). I respect that panel as the awesome players they were and liked their show for the insights they brought to the table each week. Unfortunately I can not find the same respect for them at this moment. We were taught from a very young age to congratulate our opponents on a win, does not matter how you feel at that moment.

[@PaulFouche-hf2cu]

The Breakdown… is getting worse and worse… only person that has a fair minded assessment is Muliana

[@PaulFouche-hf2cu]

Please excuse the spelling… but John Kirwin is very sad and bitter against the Boks and Goldie definitely has some sour grapes and sucks in lemons when he talks about the boks

[@lunikeisolethu4816]

Definitely

[@leroidupreez4785]

AGREE ACCEPT FOR Mils they are sour.. did not even mention springboks win

[@martmeister]

@@PaulFouche-hf2cu More recently he has definitely changed his tune and has in fact highlighted the new style of play and how dangerous it is. He has definitely got a more balanced view now.

[@jamesbester7520]

Mate, I was at the Wellington game with Springbok colours. Mills walked past and I was trying to thank him for being the only fair-minded ex-AB on the breakdown… 😅

[@enielslawers3504]

Cheslin Colbe for player of year most exciting player in the world and most valuable

[@AntonioGoss-vg9kz]

I agree

[@Alias-gy3tz]

Cheslin Kolbe.... with a capital K.

[@RD-sp5us]

PSDT hands down but won't be suprised if it's one if the Irish players. As another snub

[@martengovender9579]

Great Show Gents, The world has just woken up to see a balanced Bok team. Forwards: Bomb Squad Backs: Nuke squad

[@lukhanyosotyingwa1680]

The Kiwis are sweating over there. Debate one right now and you'll understand how confused they are currently and don't know what to do with themselves. We went through that pain for the longest time, now they are preaching HUMILITY !🤣🤣

[@leroidupreez4785]

Yeah ... let them seat it was no fun and games back in the day... we could have put them away like saturday... two cents gets distracted kinda admiited it just now...check out their podcast

[@Gareth....]

My mom calls Jaden "Sputnik". She wanted to say Sonic because of his hair but she said Sputnik instead and it stuck. 😂

[@KarateGucci]

Nice one

[@eugeneduplessis140]

Kiwis are hurting... Where is Sir talk a lot 💩... Out for a month 😂😂

[@sakabula2357]

Burning ants with his glasses

[@tvpc3194]

i forgot about him lol where did he go?

[@leroidupreez4785]

he is an existential ...you know what

[@Morrisondudeanddudette]

Ox-mal ball is the future and not Tony ball

[@patrickbrennan911]

As an Irish man. This team has evolved in a way no other team has. They have always been considered an upfront, brutish team, but they have everything. Maybe not as exciting as the best teams in the past, but undeniably the greatest wining team in world rugby at the moment. Back to back world cups and the rugby championship (only for the 5th time ever). I would take that any day. Well done guys. And still building and growing. You will be around for a long time.

[@JackN13_]

Boks should still be unbeaten this year those 2 loses are embarrassing, should've beat those arrogant Irish in both games

[@heyeksay]

But we didn’t so maybe we were too arrogant thinking that they would just lie down and hand it to us on a platter … 😅

[@marksiqendu7739]

What a Vibe at Mbombela. Very cool atmosphere

[@neilbarnett5699]

Boks are truly blessed to have 3 fly half's who are arguably amongst the best in the world Manie ..strategic kicking and distribution Handre slotting most kicks and overall tough runner making breaks strategic kicker Sasha when past his injuries ..great talented possesses all the qualities to win major critical games and credit to Rassie and mgt team for managing the incredible array of talents within the bok players so well as circumstances demand from week to week and month to month .

[@JoburgJoller-e9o]

some moaned when you okes tuned Boks by 30. Die Springbok LEEF manne

[@leroidupreez4785]

I said Boks by 60... very disapointed ....hahahahaha ...Bokke Bokke.. faultless first half.. and pressure in second half mad them fall apart... we can do this every week come on.... Bpoks by 20 every game

[@ThysKleynhans]

You were wrong. Boks win by 41 and not 30 😂😂

[@leroidupreez4785]

Ai Thys What is one plus one in the springbok laboratorium...Boks by 20 every game no excuses... hahahaha

[@ryancheeseman4688]

Doogz IS the best 12 in the world hands down. Bandi Aki close 2nd.

[@leroidupreez4785]

By far.... the consistency scale makes the difference by an earthquake of 7 on the richters scale

[@andrewmakin8151]

“retain the core and stimulate progress”. or you get left behind [AB’s, etc.]. “genius of the ‘and’, tyranny of the ‘or’”. neither just forward power nor just back line attack. the next future of rugby is being made by SA.

[@azalianieuwenhuys8844]

Julle is lekker windgat😂😅 absolutely love it!! WE FEAR FOKKOL 😂🎉 🇿🇦 NO DNA JUST RSA !

[@mattm7426]

So happy for Manie. Go on lad

[@CraigMinnie]

Zels and Mark I think what you are trying to say is with a bit of forward dominance the boks then earn the right to run the ball.Not just running at every opportunity.

[@chantalottino1671]

Regarding Manie, to be fair the public and media were ruthless and cruel. So yes, he didn't silence the critics but he did silence the bullies

[@StaalBurgher0]

Good way of phrasing it

[@herchellejacobs7458]

People dont realize how tough it is to play under so much scrutiny

[@BlazeEigs]

The Wizard of Ox.

[@Birdman953]

Love your comment!

[@adrianincapetown7043]

Jaden Hendrikse is busy making 9 his own in my view. At first, I thought that Fassi was just "keeping the seat warm" for Damian Willemse, but suddenly I'm seeing a real battle between the two for 15.

[@bjornvonduring5967]

Ox is thus far World player. We have a few contenders though. We played Tony Ball to early...we could have applied more physical pressure. They had 4 replacements on by half time.

[@chantalottino1671]

Awesome style of play. Exciting, fast and attacking. Not gonna work in every game. So it's important to keep the traditional as well as the modern to ensure a decent balance. Lots of knockout games come down to the wire, and pressure kicks and penalties. Rassie must and im sure he will think long term about that🇿🇦

[@toscabrutus1781]

Briljante Bespreking! Ek sien uit na die einde van die jaar toer!

[@jaysonmccarthy8273]

zels..try enjoying the moment bro

[@chrismia2402]

The tractor!!!!! Awesome player, every match!

[@roccov11]

Zels previously said the Boks can't play the forward power play type game and the running game as coached by Tony Brown. He's got a bit of egg on his face now.

[@langfordcullum663]

Give Zels a break guys,he can speak what he thinks.😱😱🤝🤝🤝🤝🏉🏉🏉🏆

[@jdQuinnn]

Amazing how many people find so little enjoyment in rugby.Manie is like Ronaldinho,just pure entertainment.

[@IsobelVictor405]

Il always have respect for all black rugby,, but im finished watching the breakdown,

[@KarateGucci]

No man just go there for a laugh a minute or two 🤣 that's not good for the algorithm or egos ..😂

[@tahlantshakaza5629]

They are sore loosers I can't believe they didn't mention Springboks. In a competition they played in.

[@heyeksay]

Fair play to you for perseverance 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I gave up watching that kak after the 1st episode 💩💩💩

[@claudescholtz1055]

And the way Hendricks cleared

[@Magz-101]

His confidence surprised me. Miles ahead of Cobus. We are safe whatever happens with the great Faf

[@daviddempster8717]

Restored the balance, life is good.

[@thesirzone4428]

Is this new style the Boks not tiring out the players who play the full 80. Fassi for example was really good, but made an unusual number of errors in the 2nd half....

[@jeremymaarman2949]

Get fitter.

[@thesirzone4428]

when Zels is positive about the Boks, it always sound like he has a 'but' coming :-)

[@shaunhartley3687]

Loving the comments on The Breakdown 😂😂😂...legends 😂

[@mannyc4123]

And the women, lead by Swys de Bruin, beat Japan.

[@terrycoomer8178]

Great victory!

[@TheFarmtonian1783]

To think we can have a backline consisting of this if we ever want to do it: 9 - Kolbe 10 - Libbok 11 - Willemse 12 - Pollard 13 - Kriel 14 - Arendse 15 - Feinberg-Mngomezulu Probably won't ever happen but it can 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stephenstrydom1]

That entire game and very player's contribution was a thing of beauty.

[@Markdestadler]

Two massive takeaways from this rugby championship will be Ruan Nortjie and Sasha coming into the mix....

[@langfordcullum663]

I got worried when the Argentinas got their first try,but the Bok magic happened thereafter was so good of the full 80 min.😂😂🏉🏉🏉🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@KarateGucci]

Good idea bro the Lions should go to smaller stadiums where they can pack 10 000 ...create a Buzz ...marketing idea that makes sense ...can it reach the mutalated cabbage ears 👂 that matters ....😮 thats the challenge 😅

[@sheldonstamps8090]

You say KLA looked off the pace a bit. ITO scoring tries and open play I could agree to a point, but just go and look how many rucks he hit out wide. Or even better how many rucks he was first on the scene. His work rate was still incredible.

[@leroidupreez4785]

If there was no cheslin he is the only one we would have talked about..we are spoilt..he is phenominal

[@merrickgrenfell7029]

Can’t we enter 2 teams into the next World Cup?

[@sportrocdoc2237]

If only Manie would sort out his kicking, imagine that!

[@jeremymaarman2949]

Manie should NEVER KICK FOR POSTS for the Boks ever again. Can’t people understand that being a supreme Flyhalf doesn’t mean that you MUST kick for posts. This is such a tired argument already. Coaches should find a goalkicker so Manie can give the team what he clearly showed on Saturday.

[@Magz-101]

Gosh, can we get over the kicking and just appreciate the general that Manie is at 10? There are plenty other kickers around so we are fine

[@KarateGucci]

No reason why he can't learn to kick the Big Kicks consistently....if he wants he should do what he want , we will probably see him kicking for the Stormers in the URC . ..enjoy

[@wikuscarstens5264]

I know Argentina is a different ball game at home, just as I know South Africa is a different beast in SA! They came with the fire not only for Eben, but to show Argentina what it means to wear Green and Gold ❤

[@EuginMatzner]

Thanks for your pre game prediction, it won me R305 👌🏻

[@JayP744]

Fark, dont ever go into coaching Zels! Unless its against our rivals, then please do!

[@delpejerrey]

This was a great step so that Argentina does not lose focus on what its true objective is. What is the world cup in Australia. I hope that Contempomi has taken note of what he needs to be able to play in a final. With this base, if the pumas can add the personnel that has been pushing from below, they will be a serious contender in the future.

[@delpejerrey]

This match reminded me of the Argentine team that against the first dream team in 1992, the players took photos of Magic Johnson and Michel Jordan from the substitute bench. For ten years trying to compete with them, we beat USA Basketball undefeated and ended up winning the gold medal in basketball. That's what we want for our rugby. And we are going to achieve it.

[@leroidupreez4785]

the pumas were excellent...in their defence never giving up

[@brucebeath9548]

The bok squad has been the greatest ambassadors for SA ever. Well spoken, and down to earth.

[@matthewmeyer8178]

Well done Bokkies you made as proud and hats off to the Argies much love and respect ❤

[@202bluebellrd]

Argentina was mauled by a wounded buffalo. Well @Boks

[@MosesMatsepane]

Zels is one of those people that are constantly complaining at restaurants and making everyone uncomfortable. Nothing will satisfy him…😅

[@gawiemalherbe-h3w]

I actually think he's got a point and he should keep making it. I like the skill set that Tony Brown is bringing, but should the boks be playing this way in 2027? Those two wins against the ABs should have been more convincing taking into account the personnel we currently have, the home field advantage and the state of the abs. If we played the same style we did last year at Twickenham I think it would have been. Not to say we shouldn't learn to score tries, but the game is extremely expansive at the moment. Works great when you're on the front foot...

[@jeremymaarman2949]

I agree. He also says ABSOLUTELY in agreement with Keo, but then says the exact opposite when he gets a chance to speak.

[@gawiemalherbe-h3w]

Don't get me wrong, I was stoked with Saturday's game🎉

[@abrahamkoopman3711]

​@@jeremymaarman2949😊😅😂

[@jeremymaarman2949]

@@gawiemalherbe-h3w Libbok played flyhalf in the Twickenham game. Remember that.

[@dawbchild1]

Was this Bok performance good enough for Zels?

[@sonwabilegingqishe703]

Best duo After the game I remembered your predictions. Spot on.

[@eugeneduplessis140]

Same!

[@hadleylakey7805]

Manie Redeemed himself. Mad respect. Love the channel! Long live Eben!!

[@Forest9528]

If we're honest he was still a 6/10. 7 at best Did absolutely nothing that made me want to pick him over any other 10

[@gelster365]

Manie has always been a great flyhalf in open play, but who is going to take that match winning kick when he is on the field?

[@jarednel3671]

@@Forest9528 No way bud. In my opinion, he was class. He had a great game at 10. He is easily our 3rd best 10. If he wasn't struggling with the kicking, he would be even better in our pecking order.

[@Forest9528]

@jarednel3671 ok but what did he actually do that set him apart? Fast passes? Every good 10 can do that Great high bombs? Half his bombs did absolutely nothing and just gave possession away Kicking? So useless that when somebody kicks 50% they look impressive compared to him Open play? Sacha just as good and Jorden Hendrikse is also fantastic there

[@jeremymaarman2949]

@@Forest9528you clearly didnt watch the game as a supporter of every player but rather as a bitter person. Truth is you simply dont want Manie in the team and Nothing he does will ever be good enough for you. I believe deep down you also don’t want Siya Kolisi in the team especially him being given the captaincy to lead “white people”. You have a long way to go.

[@claudescholtz1055]

Anybody could have played the way the fwds dominated

[@Alias-gy3tz]

Yes, they laid the foundation. Springbok rugby at it's best.

[@ian_buck]

Jasper doesn’t have time to get a red card 😂😂😂

[@avrilfortuin5280]

I'd like to discuss the criteria for selecting the player of the match. While Steph performed exceptionally well, there were other players who also showed outstanding performance in their respective categories of play, such as Ox, Cheslin, and Manie. I believe it might be worth considering awarding the title to the best player in each category. What are the current criteria for selecting the man of the match, and should they be reconsidered?

[@NickHiltermann]

We should play our security guards in the midweek games

[@Toefingas]

Can we please have SA A playing Rugby Europe champs full time, imagine, richardson, Mchunu, gumede, phepsi, hanekom, Nohamba, Henco Van Wyk etc etc all getting test level game time, 2nd div euro teams all get tougher competition So many fringe guys, du preez brothers, van de Mescht, dweba, du toit we'd all love to see Nthlabakanye in a green jersey as well the mans passion is infectious Probably slim chance of that actually happening but please Even if they play pasific nations or super rugby 😂❤

[@pieterventer8212]

Keo= Main mahoonos magrinkos, Zels= Main mahoonos magrinkos Muchachos! Blixem, you guys so excited I thought I double speed my screen! Lots to be excited about! And well done on your predictions...

[@jameswyatt4443]

The Boks have not gone away from those basics. Absolute BS, we still dominate the scrums in every game, and our gainline carry stats are still just as good. The anti-Tony ball is an incredibly dumb take. Our lineouts have struggled because have a new lineout operator in Nortje who will get better with time.

[@MarkWilliams-ce2gd]

Zels you must have watched a different game. The flow in which we played the game and Tony ball was the deciding factor. The offloads the support we been hoping the Boks would play running rugby and they delivered.

[@SteveWarlee]

😂 okay so manie had his best game coz he didn't have to kick. Jaden kicks kak too. Pollard's last hoof was phenomenal. 8 tries 48 points from a potential 16 point conversions??? That's why Ireland are no 1 😂😂😂

[@BlazeEigs]

Ja no I'm with Keo on this one, dominate dominate dominate. I remember watching a test match in PE where Klusener and co just absolutely smacked India and thinking ja but its boring and then going through the period where the Aussies absolutely dominated us stikkend for ages and ages and ages and I remember thinking that never again will I wish away any level or period of dominance that we may have in any of our sports.

[@lewisolaka4216]

Yep. Tell the Irish and the breakdown podcast guys it's Bokke time and they better prep for a Bokke win at RWC 2027.

[@spencerhendricks8899]

You guys are hilarious, love it 😂

[@rafhen123]

Zels is hartseer vir Manie.... Manie was epic bru!!!.... Lionel Messi, what a k@k analogy

[@benmbanze3655]

Keo and Zels are the best with the banter,do the grandslam tour in a fortnight 😂😅😊. Absolute classic

[@Capie]

I think the bok forwards' slick ball handling was amazing .. but .. you can do that with playing forward all the time!!

[@BogartAus]

Zels is making me stop watching this show. He is the most antiquated, negative and out of touch person ever.

[@rodwellchigome7567]

And I'm stoked we pummeling teams and exhibiting great class when going out wide. Zels, I hope this has usurped your views on us playing one way.

[@bkrause4424]

Getting a Bok fan in Auckland. The thought of watching the Boks beat the All Blacks at Eden Park excites me as much as winning a lions tour

[@davesteyn]

Keo & Zels great show guys but I find it strange that there is no mention of our lady Boks. In my opinion we must support them more. Sweis is doing a great job with them.

[@ashwen4166]

Guys to be honest these two guys don't really know about rugby at all😂😂😂😅so many redflags 😂😂😂

[@steinjonah660]

You mentioned that Sunday show down under I was rather pathetic for the all black when they discussed future talent. Razor is in trouble.

[@jksinorbit]

I want to know what was said in regards to defence because that was by far the biggest difference between the boks on Saturday and the boks earlier this year. They were up an in their grille at full speed creating rush pressure. So did they just say screw it lets go back to Jacques rush defence?

[@siyasamkelazuba3431]

Yes mannie DID silence his critics.. people were already saying he doesn't belong to the squad, I think he proved he a actually does belong there.

[@michaelbaxter7452]

He ruins the 6-2 and 7-1 splits since he requires pollard on the bench. I hope he either learns to kick or gets lost

[@RD-sp5us]

​@michaelbaxter7452 you guys... Pollard has played many a game other than WC, with limited success. Goalkicking is not the be all. If Manie haven't shown you that, what's possible with a more attacking flyhalf with majestic distribution skills, you are blind or willingly obtuse

[@tcm6506]

@siya - very well said! Manie definitely the best exponent for this new game plan. None of the bok 10s can get a backline flowing like that. Unfortunately with the springboks and why I can't get behind, the standards for acceptance and judging the black players are different.

[@estellelai3810]

I have just watched Eggchasers who has said the exact same thing about Ox & Malherbe and the scrum.

[@itsovergetuptherejoe]

I have watched the Kolbe try at least 10 times, the first six times I could not work out if he was going in or outside the last defender. And I’d seen it

[@Bash-kk4uj]

😂😂😂😂😂from19:55 okes are taking a piss😂😂😂FS!! #DayMade

[@riaankinghorn4111]

Hi there Oke’s, can we stop trying to fix the All blacks issues please. 😅

[@subhuman119]

The Springboks beat an Argentina side that had shocking discipline. 2 Yellow cards and a red card, any side in the world is going to put 40+ points on a team playing that badly, SA fans and pundits need to put it into perspective instead of talking up a dominant performance, because with that going against Argentina (Which is their own fault), it's to be expected. Don't forget that this heavily experienced Springbok side lost to Ireland at home, and only beat New Zealand by 4 points and 6 points, who are a team that are under a new coaching structure. Not to mention, NZ had a yellow card both times in the last 20 minutes. With all the experience and the time that this amazing Springbok team has spent together, they should be blowing teams off the field.

[@TheFarmtonian1783]

You know who needs to put it into perspective the people who gets paid to do it the coaching staff our responsibility as supporters are to support and that's it ..next you gonna say we need to put it into perspective that Cheslin charged down a conversion in the RWC QF and we should put into perspective that the All Blacks missed a conversion in the final. And put into perspective that Nienaber isn't part of the Bok setup anymore....

[@subhuman119]

@@TheFarmtonian1783 Supporters will be supporters. Stuff happens in sport, and you can only play whats in front of you. Reds or yellows, charging down kicks, missing kicks, that's sport in a nutshell. What I'm referring to is fan bases being biased and refusing to see the hard facts in front of them, regardless of the team you support. Here is some perspective if you wish. In this very podcast, Keo says that Ben O'keefe did well and against France and that he's the best ref in the world. Yet against Ireland in the pool rounds when South Africa lost, he was labelled the worst referee ever by SA fans. But suddenly against France and England at the RWC, he was the amazing once again, and again in this past weekend. Another perspective of bias, let's talk about Mannie Libbok. Only a week ago, the majority of Springbok fans were calling for his head, saying he shouldn't wear a green and gold jumper again. But this weekend, suddenly he's amazing and is the future.