Sarvarkar and Hindutva: Irfan Habib, Nilanjan Mukhopadyay Speaks To Rahul Kanwal |

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4 жыл бұрын

While an engaging debate Irfan Habib and Nilanjan Mukhopadyay ensued on the issue of what Hindu Rashtra means, the single point all panellists agreed on was the general confusion among people over the terms-- Hindu, Hindutva and Hindu Rashtra. They said that the current public discourse has a lot of confusion over how to define Hindu, Hindutva and Hindu Rashtra as philosophical concepts different from political ideology.
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@raghavtrehan4590
@raghavtrehan4590 4 жыл бұрын
Vikram Sampath should have been here
@Kuldeepsingh-vm7lo
@Kuldeepsingh-vm7lo 2 жыл бұрын
Now again discussion requires with vikram sampath these left liberal will say there are various figures in Indian freedom
@sangramkale3375
@sangramkale3375 2 жыл бұрын
Then his second edition of book had not came. He became famous after the 2nd boom
@sureshshinde2013
@sureshshinde2013 Жыл бұрын
Sir,, Vikram Sampat is Very Honest writer. Born after the General Election 2014. His Pen n Spectical is from Delhi Shop.. Some more Vikram Sampat are in Q to take Birth.
@deeppant05
@deeppant05 Жыл бұрын
totally. Desh Ratan Nigam is a weak and non-assertive debator and clearly failed to articualate the facts and was outshouted by both the left libral panel including the biased anchor
@venugopalraochichula7534
@venugopalraochichula7534 2 жыл бұрын
Time and again I feel startling why Mr Ashutosh has been involved in intellectual debates. In each and every debate he speaks illogical and non-sense. It’s evident, from his perspectives of debates, he’s a stooge of Nehruvian Congress and Nehru family. The other panelists are trying to push their agenda there’s no wrong in it. But, Ashutosh is known as an absurd and idiotic. I know many of people who mute the video whenever Ashutosh starts speaking.
@alokvarde6979
@alokvarde6979 4 жыл бұрын
Aushtosh is very important ingredient of any debate and is invited as comedian.
@syedzahid313
@syedzahid313 4 жыл бұрын
Mercy petitions as strategy to get out of jail ...ha ha ha. Fooling the Nation, especially the andh bhakts.
@akb0014
@akb0014 4 жыл бұрын
No.. Its nigam the comedian
@chinmaya021
@chinmaya021 3 жыл бұрын
@@syedzahid313 From where You get this, Mercy petition really?? It is a simple petition just like you apply for bail. Still He did not get freedom from Kalapani. Have you visited Kala Pani?? Have you seen the cells? It's not like Gandhiji's sentence to Yervada Jail? Who went to Kalapani, Do you have any list? no-one from Congress except One? I think you also don't have his name. His name was Yogendra Shukla.
@RaviRanjan-pp4gt
@RaviRanjan-pp4gt 3 жыл бұрын
@@syedzahid313 istrah to Gandhi Nehru yesab to British Ka dalal hua..qki unhe normal jail bheja Gaya..aur savarkar ko Kala paani...Whataboutery savi ko krna aata hai..
@praveenkushwaha9723
@praveenkushwaha9723 4 жыл бұрын
Why Rahul always interrupt right sided person
@mahak666
@mahak666 3 жыл бұрын
मैं तो यही कहूंगा कि... राहुल... Bas... rd है।
@suryashaw3906
@suryashaw3906 2 жыл бұрын
Bcz you right hand is used to do auspicious work and left for saach
@AnkitGupta-re4tp
@AnkitGupta-re4tp 3 жыл бұрын
when bose told gandhi about his plan of armed movement by creating INA,it was a brilliant idea as british would be busy in fighting world war and would not be able to sustain a fight against INA if indian men would have not joined British forces, still gandhi rejected it infact gandhi and congress went against bose and INA. but nobody doubts gandhi's intensions, why?
@anukreddi
@anukreddi 4 жыл бұрын
@42:22 While, Savarkar may have praised the Nazi's, and compared Indian Muslims to the Jews who wouldn't integrate into German society. The fact is that Muslims of India proved him right by breaking away from India and forming Pakistan. The Muslims of India, at that time, broadly aren't the Muslims of India today. So, what he said would be factually correct, and while we judge the actions of the Nazi's for the atrocities of the Holocaust, Sarvarkar could not have expected that.
@aniketaggarwal1224
@aniketaggarwal1224 8 ай бұрын
Great 🎉
@tejasghangrekar1423
@tejasghangrekar1423 4 жыл бұрын
Savarkar talked about hindus and muslims ...bcz he nd only he had a vision of what the picture of india would look like after 40 to 50 yrs .......nd let the leftist think tanks say anything savarkar will always remain a hero for india ..nd one and only one of his kind ...no one can be compared to his stature ...simply uncomparable
@AnarchistDoc
@AnarchistDoc 6 ай бұрын
Savarkar will never be a hero..
@bknmd7
@bknmd7 4 жыл бұрын
He was restricted only upto Ratnagiri iff he escapes he would resent to kala pani,because his improsknment is for 50 years.. Then he could not serve the nation anyhow therefore 2nd phase was that he did
@shikhamurali9876
@shikhamurali9876 4 жыл бұрын
It’s clear Tak channel wants to prove Vir Savarkar doesn’t deserve Bharat Ratna. Big or small his contribution in freedom fight is undeniable. He will get BR whether Rahuls like it or not 😁
@Tatpunjiya
@Tatpunjiya Жыл бұрын
He was jailed for 20 years, spent less than half the term apologised 5 times in row, begged and pleaded and came out. He’s Bharat Ratna?
@cloudless_night
@cloudless_night Жыл бұрын
​@@Tatpunjiya snap out of your ignorance. Don't just pour the leftist propaganda here in comments. Read the explanation given on apologies by Vikram Sampath and make your mind by reading both sides.
@hakkabukka5900
@hakkabukka5900 4 жыл бұрын
1:05:25 good answer by Nigam. Foolish question by Rahul.
@AryaNirman
@AryaNirman 4 жыл бұрын
Ambedkar was also not fighting for freedom he was also doing social service
@aryanpandey8262
@aryanpandey8262 4 күн бұрын
British stooge 🎉
@pragasamramaswamy1592
@pragasamramaswamy1592 4 жыл бұрын
AGREED Mr NIGAM WITH ONE CLARIFICATION. SAVARKAR DID THE TACTICS OF APOLOGY. NOT TO INTENSIFY THE FREEDOM STRUGGLE. BUT ONLY TO ESCAPE FROM THE PAIN OF CONFINEMENT IN THE JAIL. RIGHT?
@reggieinindia
@reggieinindia 4 жыл бұрын
This Anchor is out of place. He is behaving like a High School Debate Moderator
@prabhaskumarmohanty5910
@prabhaskumarmohanty5910 4 жыл бұрын
Ajeeb baat h! Even most people don't know who these people are but criticizing savarkar who went to kalapaani
@faiqagaur5077
@faiqagaur5077 4 жыл бұрын
Mafi kyon maang li Pension BHI liya angrezo Ka veer Nahi kayar tha wo kutta nalayak tha
@prabhaskumarmohanty5910
@prabhaskumarmohanty5910 4 жыл бұрын
@@faiqagaur5077 maharastra me savarkar hero h..bhai hinduo ko gaali dena h toh do..but ye savarkar ko beech me lane ki jaroorat nhi.
@faiqagaur5077
@faiqagaur5077 4 жыл бұрын
@@prabhaskumarmohanty5910 Bhayi Mai Kisi ko Gali Nahi deta Hindu Mera bada bhayi hai I love hindu but hate RSS BJP bajrangdal ABVP vhp
@prabhaskumarmohanty5910
@prabhaskumarmohanty5910 4 жыл бұрын
@@faiqagaur5077 bhai..dekho yaar...thoda history padhoge toh pata lagega ye saare political parties cong bjp including owasi aur waqf board saare apne faida ke liye kaam kar rahe h. Lekin yaar Muslim h toh Bharat h nhi toh bina musalman ke Bharat ka koi matlab nhi.
@faiqagaur5077
@faiqagaur5077 4 жыл бұрын
@@prabhaskumarmohanty5910 Kaise
@abhijeetthombre4213
@abhijeetthombre4213 3 жыл бұрын
Calling Ashutosh! I thought this was a serious debate
@Kuldeepsingh-vm7lo
@Kuldeepsingh-vm7lo 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@mohtashimansari8256
@mohtashimansari8256 4 жыл бұрын
Well said Ashutosh sir
@bhupendertomar5653
@bhupendertomar5653 3 жыл бұрын
he is a comedian
@maheshkumarrao5812
@maheshkumarrao5812 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right, the Left Group never add in our school history, any freedom fighter who where against their ideologies. Even Left dorsnot like Subhash Chandra Bose , Savarkar n Lokmanya Tilak. That is we have rewrite our history , Left more interested in adding China n Russia Communist , rather India freedom fighter who ideologies deferent that Left Communist. One big example is Indo China war , Left Communist supported China. They never think that India is their nation, the nationalism is zero to them.
@RiyaSharma-ox5ev
@RiyaSharma-ox5ev 3 жыл бұрын
That is because it is controversial to write about people who were supporters of Facist intentions to wipe out a whole race of Jews. In this day and age, frankly, supporting people like that can't be justified. Now you may come to me with the argument that this is presentist, but even judging by the ethical and moral standards of the time (1930s and 1940s) , mass murder of any race was not justified. So, personally, I believe knowledge about radicals such as Bose, Savarkar and Tilak are important, but textbooks DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT endorse their perspectives.
@anandpandey9988
@anandpandey9988 4 жыл бұрын
Ye vo irfan habib nahi hain, ye hain irfan habib junior wale
@svsnmurthy2227
@svsnmurthy2227 4 жыл бұрын
Left leaning people are impatient and left leaning media organisation is giving more time to them
@SKsupesdmr
@SKsupesdmr 4 жыл бұрын
Subhash Chandra Bose, bhagat Singh ,periyar ,Azad and many more were leftist ...first learn about this then talk ...
@smtkumar007
@smtkumar007 4 жыл бұрын
if someone has a problem and made up their mind then better shit to republic tv for such debate
@trick_er
@trick_er 4 жыл бұрын
What is left and right?
@rks2366
@rks2366 2 жыл бұрын
Jawaharlal Nehru was so great freedom fighter that he never went to Kalapani .
@pkk5612
@pkk5612 2 жыл бұрын
Same for Gandhi as well.
@donupadhyay1555
@donupadhyay1555 2 жыл бұрын
@@pkk5612 Ambedkar as well he never sent to Jail by British
@nitikakolnad8465
@nitikakolnad8465 2 жыл бұрын
In 2 weeks Motilal ji wrote a mercy petition for Nehru ji's release from Nabha jail 😂😂😂
@prashantkumarsinghx1470
@prashantkumarsinghx1470 4 жыл бұрын
Sachindranath sanyal was a co prisoner of Savarkar ,who also filed a mercy petition and got free .
@sagarbansal1412
@sagarbansal1412 2 жыл бұрын
Liberals cry over Veer Savarkar just because he was hindu nationalist . There is no other reason .
@lookintoit4537
@lookintoit4537 2 жыл бұрын
Anecdote: He was the grand uncle of our present economic advisor.
@harshalsharma373
@harshalsharma373 2 жыл бұрын
Bring Vikram sampath and you will see all the sitting left to the podium running like a cat.. 😂😂
@Kuldeepsingh-vm7lo
@Kuldeepsingh-vm7lo 2 жыл бұрын
Vikram sampath, jai sai deepak
@rahulozarde9892
@rahulozarde9892 4 жыл бұрын
Totally low quality, unbalanced and one directional discussion.... The fuming of Ashutosh, sarcasm of Habib , counters by Nilanjan and least time given to the other side speakers and dodging and directional questions by Rahul......deeply disappointed
@shivaprakash4033
@shivaprakash4033 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, after coming out from jail with stratergy , what did savarkarji do???
@dilipthombre4806
@dilipthombre4806 4 жыл бұрын
@shiva prakash plz read his work for untouchability and against castism then you will know without reading dont make opinion...
@madhusudhanh76
@madhusudhanh76 4 жыл бұрын
@@dilipthombre4806 sir... The whole point is he did not fight for India freedom struggle... He was a social reformer that's it..
@JOMfan
@JOMfan 4 жыл бұрын
@@madhusudhanh76 And that is why he was in the Andaman prison? Because he was a social reformer?
@dilipthombre4806
@dilipthombre4806 4 жыл бұрын
@@madhusudhanh76 there are many freedomfighter like ARVINDO GHOSH after release from Andman jail did not fight.... swa.sawarkar was sent for 50yrs jail... how many freedom fighers from anyother group had convicted for 50yrs jail? was it for just being a socialreformer??1910-1923 was not sufficient to be in andaman jail?? just compare it jail for peacful cong workers against Andaman jail for sawarkar. what ever he had done after release only for this nation not in self interest. his revolutionary orgainsation was finished within span twenty yrs after he was jailed. his family members were living very miserable life. his property was sealed by british govt. now i ask one question how many members of your forefathers participated in freedom fight with Gun or sword?? if not then ask them..... you are enjoying freedom not by mercy of your forefathers
@Raut-warrior
@Raut-warrior 4 жыл бұрын
he fought against caste discrimination, he united the hindus fought for their rights from islamists
@viveksnambiar
@viveksnambiar 4 жыл бұрын
While Rahul calls himself the moderator, invited 3 members against the idea of Savarkar....also gives more time for those people but stopping the person who speaks for savarkar.....is it fair ..is it the way true moderator behaves?? Infact all he speaks is against savarkar.....Then why this debate...he should have wrote his views in India today editorial section....rather than this cheap show...
@gagan_sikhi
@gagan_sikhi 3 жыл бұрын
Bhai right wing k log padhe likhe bohot km mile hain.. 90% to whatsApp university wale chacha rehty hain No offense
@sachithrao6353
@sachithrao6353 2 жыл бұрын
@@gagan_sikhi bhai most left wing are communists and Gandhi(bc) lovers
@navintiwari112
@navintiwari112 2 жыл бұрын
@@gagan_sikhi beta tum bhut padhe likhe ho... wiki page sei aage gaadi nahin badhi hogi tumhari... tum jaison sei bhut debate hui hai...aadhe ghante mein bhagte nazar aate ho
@anoopkumarbarthwal1115
@anoopkumarbarthwal1115 4 жыл бұрын
Balanced discussion although Ashutosh behaved unprofessionaly. But it is amazing that Muslims were always given priority at the cost of Hindus in forties too. Nobody on the Dias justified Veer Savarkar in the context of Muslims desire for a separate land which they got.
@naveenghgh
@naveenghgh 4 жыл бұрын
Anoop Kumar Barthwal ; sir i felt same. In fact these secular debators should b interrogated on the same line of questions. Why shouldn't they go to Pakistan and convince them to be united again with secular India? How many have spent a day even asking Pakistani leaders about partition? They only ask what savarkar did post this post that.... all rubbish .... what are they doing?
@RiyaSharma-ox5ev
@RiyaSharma-ox5ev 3 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, Congress, which WAS A HINDU MAJORITY PARTY, WON the 1946 elections. On what idiotic basis do you then say that Muslims were given priority at the cost of Hindus. Its just that RADICAL parties like the Hindu Mahasabha and the RSS did not have many supporters because of their violent ideals and anti-secular principles.
@JK-lc1ve
@JK-lc1ve 4 жыл бұрын
Do a similar program on Gandhiji’s mistakes if you have daring India Today 🤷🏻‍♀️ Disgusting someone is talking about Sawarkar in that way...
@brazilbiba6671
@brazilbiba6671 4 жыл бұрын
Did Gandhi make any mistakes? He was a good soul surely.
@PseudoProphet
@PseudoProphet 4 жыл бұрын
@@brazilbiba6671 gandi used to call black African people as subhumans, he also served in the British army.
@brazilbiba6671
@brazilbiba6671 4 жыл бұрын
That is surprising, almost seems out of character.
@PseudoProphet
@PseudoProphet 4 жыл бұрын
@@brazilbiba6671 exactly.
@johngates2602
@johngates2602 4 жыл бұрын
What wrong with this people who compare Savarkar to Gandhi ji. Really shame.
@SunilGupta-cs6oj
@SunilGupta-cs6oj 4 жыл бұрын
but what was the strategy ?
@boomboom9768
@boomboom9768 4 жыл бұрын
Left ka kya contribution h....plzzz expalain..
@smtkumar007
@smtkumar007 4 жыл бұрын
INC mai john bade bade freedom fighter the , voh rss se nahi aye the bro
@GHexplore
@GHexplore 4 жыл бұрын
@Saurav Singh Left ka contribution yeh hai k woh Subhas Chandra Bose, Bhagat Singh, Rasbehari Bose, Chandra Sekhar Azad jaisa revolutionaries paida kya. Tumhra right kisko paida kya?
@cristianosilva4301
@cristianosilva4301 4 жыл бұрын
@@GHexplore woh log left nahi true freedom fighters the .jo sahi samay pe sahi kam karne ki takat tatha samaj rakhte the
@edisonbrain
@edisonbrain 4 жыл бұрын
Savarkar is not an attractive figure to my eyes but I feel like they should have let Mr. Nigam speak.
@nitikakolnad8465
@nitikakolnad8465 2 жыл бұрын
So you dint hear Vikram Sampath, salute to him
@shyamsingh346
@shyamsingh346 4 жыл бұрын
At least he was not a 'veer'. He was an imaginary of the today's devisive thought of the fragmented nation devided on the line of caste, creed and religion.They are bitter against the scheduled castes and the enlightened people of this nation. I pray daily if my country will save itself from these venomous snakes.
@archanawarrier6277
@archanawarrier6277 4 жыл бұрын
Veer savarkar was an athiest, he never believed in any single religion. And he was against britishers separating Hindus with caste. He wanted to come out of jail and unite people against British. Indira Gandhi herself called him son of India. Even though nehru rejected him.
@Mutinous_
@Mutinous_ 2 жыл бұрын
Was Nehru a PANDIT in real sense?
@suchetharao1060
@suchetharao1060 4 жыл бұрын
Savarkar was targeted by the British because he was a bright intellectual! Irfan habib calls himself a historian and he doesn’t know the biography of Veer Savarkar, and doesn’t want to know it now either!!!
@Isabhaisuratwala
@Isabhaisuratwala 4 жыл бұрын
Jagdish tytler,sajjan kumar,dharam das shastri,lalit makan,H K L Bhagat,Kishori lal can be the next BHARAT RATTNA........for there duties for the country......
@mandarpeshwe1994
@mandarpeshwe1994 3 жыл бұрын
Bhagat Singh called Savarkar a 'veer' in his writings. Gandhi called Savarkar as Brother. Honesty is the best policy.
@sanchardarshan
@sanchardarshan 2 жыл бұрын
झूठ है
@hamdardboy
@hamdardboy Жыл бұрын
Moreover my conversion to the constitutional line would bring back all those misled young men in India and abroad who were once looking up to me as their guide. I am ready to serve the Government in any capacity they like, for as my conversion is conscientious so I hope my future conduct would be. By keeping me in jail nothing can be got in comparison to what would be otherwise. The Mighty alone can afford to be merciful and therefore where else can the prodigal son return but to the parental doors of the Government? Hoping your Honour will kindly take into notion these points. VD savarkar letter to british
@ShivamSharma-dd1wf
@ShivamSharma-dd1wf Жыл бұрын
Please share the source of this. Thank you in advance.
@curiousreporter4292
@curiousreporter4292 4 жыл бұрын
Strategy Strategy 😁😁😁
@shraddha8777
@shraddha8777 4 жыл бұрын
uske ke liye dimag lagta hai... if u read and know abt Savarkar.. u'll knw he was smart enough to use such tactics... u'll probably take ages to reach that level of intelligence...
@sohandesai818
@sohandesai818 4 жыл бұрын
Read Shawshank Redemption. Savarkar's case is very similar.
@royp6986
@royp6986 3 жыл бұрын
Read of thoughts on pakistan written by ambedkar you will understand the confusion
@smpbhat5470
@smpbhat5470 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic session 👌
@sapnabaldua828
@sapnabaldua828 2 жыл бұрын
Sawarkar has always been a revered patriot for simple indian public like me and so many- the polititions and so on May choose to play and stoop low and show the truth of their stained mentality!
@saali8221
@saali8221 4 жыл бұрын
Arguments by Mr Nigam to defend Savarkar are his pure imagination like his arguments about Delhi's Jama Masjid not being a Masjid built by Mughals which I heard in a TV debate.
@pbkvijaykulkarni6404
@pbkvijaykulkarni6404 4 жыл бұрын
Habib - RSS played active role in 1942, which communists boycotted
@GHexplore
@GHexplore 4 жыл бұрын
RSS did nothing. There leader Shyamaprasad Mukherjee was trying to make the Quit India movement weak.
@ramamoorthiadhiseshan9571
@ramamoorthiadhiseshan9571 2 жыл бұрын
Veer savarkar is more relevant in today's scenario our country surrounded by m slim fanatic countries the country needs rss for the protection of hindus
@zisankhan2821
@zisankhan2821 2 жыл бұрын
Desh Ratan Nigam is the same person who told that Red fort was built by the tomara and Tajmahal was a hindu temple .
@ajaykumarnayak8560
@ajaykumarnayak8560 3 жыл бұрын
This how a debate should be made....
@kishu9108
@kishu9108 4 жыл бұрын
Let bring Vikram Sampat
@SumitSharma-mb7dx
@SumitSharma-mb7dx 4 жыл бұрын
Savarkar is great
@GHexplore
@GHexplore 4 жыл бұрын
Yes great in writing mercy petition. 😂
@royp6986
@royp6986 3 жыл бұрын
Irfan habib sir please refer to this quote from Ambedkar sir in his books thoughts on Pakistan”The Indian Army today is pre-dominantly Muslim in its composition. The Muslims who predominate are from Punjab and North West Frontier Province (see table below). It means that such Muslims are made the sole defenders of India from foreign invasion. The Hindus will have to pay for the Army but will not be able to use them because the realist must note that of all the Muslims, those of the North-West is the most disaffected Muslim, in his relation with the Hindus”. [Thoughts on Pakistan, p. 89]
@knowledgefull2452
@knowledgefull2452 4 жыл бұрын
Yes court acquitted Vir Savarkar.
@bobinpune
@bobinpune 3 жыл бұрын
Court said there was no "direct evidence". But he wasn't honorably discharged. And Patel banned RSS because of these shenanigans!
@Bharat_ek_khooj
@Bharat_ek_khooj 3 жыл бұрын
Rss walo ka defence is "strategy"😎😂😂😂
@sachithrao6353
@sachithrao6353 2 жыл бұрын
Nehru father had to beg for pardon... Aww had to talk to daddy
@PradeepmysurNagaraj
@PradeepmysurNagaraj 3 жыл бұрын
What is Hindutva? India as a Nation was not born on August 15 1947, India is a continuing civilization with a Milleniea old Continuity more than a few thousand years lived civilizational experience. The primary philosophical thought of India was all inclusive, all accepting, it was never exclusivist and most importantly it never negated the existence of any other philosophical, Spiritual or Religious thought. However when the philosophies of this land came in contact with Semitic Religions, which inherently are exclusivist, Which inherently exclusivist are conflicting, predatory and proselytising there needed to be a response by a non exclusive, inclusive faith which can be called Common wealth of Hindu Spiritual traditions, to therefore respond to the agression, predation and proselytising attempts made by Abrahamic faiths which came to Indian soil, A response was made by Hindus at that time, and that in later context was called Hindutva. *If Hinduism is the potential inclusivity of the common wealth of indigenous thought, Then Hindutva can be a kinetic effect, which primarily is to defend the Hindu philosophy, culture against Abrahmic-Semitic faiths which is not primarily inclusive, predatory and proselytising* Hindutva by nature cannot be aggressive.Because the very response of Hindutva emanated to be defensive. Hindutva is a intellectual, political, socio response of the Hindus to prevent itself and themselves against aggression. Therefore Hindutva cannot be dominating, because Hinduism is a victim of Aggression. Hindutva by its very nature cannot be agressive, because the very response to Hindutva emanated to be defensive. Unless we examine and scrutinize the Abrahmic semitic faiths which by their very nature are proselytising & predatory & which by their very nature go the extent of negating other faiths as false faiths, then we must ask questions, should Hindus, should not come up with Intellectual, Political - Socio response to preserve and perpetuate the long lasting way of life. We can't accept the false equivalences drawn between two entities. 1. "La ilah illa Allah" "There is no God but Allah " 2. "Jai Shree Raam" "Victory to Raam" "La ilah illa Allah" is a negation of the existence of my God, However we won't negate other belief systems. Sir Sayyed Ahmed Khan in 1926, Hindus and Muslims are different Nations. "It is a Shame to both the Hindus & Muslamaans that the Hindus should have to run away from their homes as they have done, it is the shame for the Muslims because it is out of the fear of the Muslims that the Hindus have to run away from their homes, why Should a Human being inspire fear on other Human, My own experience but confirms the opinion that the Musalmaan as a rule is a bully and the Hindu as a rule is a coward" Mahatma Gandhi after Noakhali Massacre. Writing Thoughts on Pakistan - Dr. B.R.Ambedkar. The Hindus and the Hindutva leaders whose primary ideology is defensive reaction towards aggression have been put in witness box as perpetrators of aggression. That has to change for always and for good times to come, we must be asking questions to those followers and leaders of Abrahamic faiths and we must put them to the same kind of scrutiny as put to the Hindu leaders. Does not your Religion at the very fundamental belief believe in dividing the World between believers and non believers? Is that not exclusivist? Unless we have intellectual strength to ask these fundamental questions we will be continuing to draw false equivalences and we will be treating the symptoms and not the disease itself. PS : As long as proselytising Religions continue their existence as as Proselytising Religions Hindutva should be there to protect itself and not just protect itself but also protect the values that the Hindu society has perpetually held as sacred & sacrosanct & those values are in consonance to the modern secular values that Indian constitution so dearly upholds....
@sanchardarshan
@sanchardarshan 2 жыл бұрын
Most important question is that how many freedom fighters apologized to Britishers and promised them loyalty ????
@jagdishbaghel8169
@jagdishbaghel8169 4 жыл бұрын
Ha....rajiv gandhi ne to freedom struggle mai bada yogdan diya tha .....thtswhy he was given bharat ratna
@bobinpune
@bobinpune 3 жыл бұрын
He brought the Information Technology revolution to India. Anyhow. Sawarkar was brave and patriotic, but Kala Paani broke his spirit. Then he colluded with British and plotted to kill Mahatma. Osama Bin Laden may have been good in his younger years, but he'll be remembered as terrorist, not some sort of "Veer"!
@chandasingh6663
@chandasingh6663 4 жыл бұрын
BJP it cell wale apni naukri kar rahe hai....please don't comment
@kailashpati496
@kailashpati496 4 жыл бұрын
Tu kis party ki IT cell member ha???
@umardaraz2736
@umardaraz2736 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@vimalshahi9299
@vimalshahi9299 4 жыл бұрын
@@kailashpati496 🤡🤡🤡
@balbhattfromthirdofsevenof7496
@balbhattfromthirdofsevenof7496 4 жыл бұрын
Hyperventilating Ashutosh needs to fact check first. Dhimmi should know that even great leader like madan mohan malviya left congress to start Hindu Mahasabha to unify society and consolidation can later work towards greater good. Was he then quitter ? Idiot sitting and clapping do not know they are same kind of idiots those who were celebrating british role!!!
@trick_er
@trick_er 4 жыл бұрын
@@kailashpati496 india naam ki party ka hai
@aniketaggarwal1224
@aniketaggarwal1224 8 ай бұрын
44:00 Unlike Bose , Savarkar was a prolific writer too . Therefore writing was also one of his weapon and he praised Nazi Germany for that purpose only .
@msc3329
@msc3329 2 жыл бұрын
Not giving chance to the aithor himself shows the intent of rahul
@ayazsiddiquiamu
@ayazsiddiquiamu 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, and moderated in a very neutral way
@curdrice9739
@curdrice9739 4 жыл бұрын
This hypocrite rahul kanwal dont let right to talk but he himself talks more and cuts. This fool ashutosh who has no clue about history. Like a paapi mixes nonsense
@GHexplore
@GHexplore 4 жыл бұрын
Anyway right doesn't have any past glory, it would be a waste of time to give them more opportunities to speak. They will be either criticizing Gandhi or Nehru. They are actually good for nothing
@worldnews2106
@worldnews2106 4 жыл бұрын
Nor gandhiji was 100% Perfect And Nor Savarkar But Both Were Thinking Best in there intellect for India I think this topic was Baseless Moderater should Avoid such topic form which there is NO Gaine for Nation.
@rajivsrivastav7218
@rajivsrivastav7218 3 жыл бұрын
Ashutosh is rightly said.
@girishshanker3779
@girishshanker3779 4 жыл бұрын
If Savarakar did social service, we can not call it traitor. Gandhi did the same (social welfare) at different times.
@deveshsawant3066
@deveshsawant3066 4 жыл бұрын
What was the contribution of left on freedom struggle?
@svsnmurthy2227
@svsnmurthy2227 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir you raised an imp question
@satishchauhan4191
@satishchauhan4191 4 жыл бұрын
Zero
@SaddamHussain-bu5cl
@SaddamHussain-bu5cl 4 жыл бұрын
Heard of bhagat singh and netaji sunash chandra bose ??????? Read about HSRA and AIFB
@sujitmitrakrittikamitra9421
@sujitmitrakrittikamitra9421 4 жыл бұрын
1946 naval mutiny they raised red flag. Chattogram armoury case most of them belong to left ideology. Hear about meerut conspiracy case. Perhaps you hear the name of laxmi sehegwal. Read about our freedom struggle.
@mohammadsaquibalam1076
@mohammadsaquibalam1076 4 жыл бұрын
Comrade Bhagat Singh founded the HSRA , read his writing "Why I am an Athiest?"
@pkk5612
@pkk5612 2 жыл бұрын
People like Ashutosh does not qualify to talk on a huge personality like Savarkar.
@mathematicallyyours6566
@mathematicallyyours6566 2 жыл бұрын
Good debate....
@mangomits
@mangomits 4 жыл бұрын
Can't believe folks talking disrespectfully about someone who spent 1/3 of his life in British Jail..
@chickwit2575
@chickwit2575 4 жыл бұрын
He also spent the rest of his life being silent against the British, he wrote many apology letters, lived off of their pension and money.
@786humaira1
@786humaira1 4 жыл бұрын
After jail at Andaman he became a Hindu agent of British sarvarkar. He attacked Mahatma Gandhi and the Muslims. British were afraid of Mahatmas movement and the Muslims.The typical way of British arrest a man with long term jail punishment then show liniency if you do our dirty work. And Savarkar was very dutifully loyal to British and helped to snuff off the worlds greatest man of his time Mahatma Gandhi. The son of India, the greatest man the world has seen. It is so foolish not to be able to know how poisonous Savarkar was and his ideology was.
@786humaira1
@786humaira1 4 жыл бұрын
Savalkar also received Rs.60 / month to do the dirty job of the British.and he did it well.
@mangomits
@mangomits 4 жыл бұрын
All seem to be expert about 100+ old history.. No iota of common sense about their circumstances, vision, ground reality etc.. Indian media has brain washed two groups against each other so much so that those groups have become fanatics about everything & anything except how to improve it's own transport infrastructure, medical facilities, education systems, gender equality, social hygiene etc.. These the media n these groups will never discuss but yes will talk about 1000 years old incidents about their sky gods n which one was better than the other is all the discussions are about. Typical to keep the 3rd world folks stuck in their deep holes.
@harir6316
@harir6316 4 жыл бұрын
@@786humaira1 Muslims are never patriots they created their own country. Tell me the names of Muslims who fought for Indian independence.
@boomboom9768
@boomboom9768 4 жыл бұрын
3 vs 2.... And winner is 2 ... Great...
@GHexplore
@GHexplore 4 жыл бұрын
In your dreams those 2 won..😂
@knots1975
@knots1975 Жыл бұрын
​@@GHexplore of course they did.jai sawarkar
@suvaskadam9206
@suvaskadam9206 4 жыл бұрын
Good. Job . Purandare and nigam
@nandinisarangal9796
@nandinisarangal9796 4 жыл бұрын
Enlightening debate conducted in a highly professional way....Rahul 👍🏻
@user-up1mn2qn8w
@user-up1mn2qn8w 4 жыл бұрын
@17:33, "...Twice he (Hedgewar) went to the jail, not written in the history..." There were thousands of other protesters whose names not written in the history, so what? There are thousands of loyals who've sacrificed their lives and their children's lives for the Nation, but their names can't be found in history. This jahil Nigam must understand this fact before claiming something.
@akb0014
@akb0014 4 жыл бұрын
Yupp bro..
@sohandesai818
@sohandesai818 4 жыл бұрын
So you admit there's a chance that RSS contribution in freedom struggle may not be documented.
@rash6821
@rash6821 3 жыл бұрын
@@sohandesai818 not more than left
@sohandesai818
@sohandesai818 3 жыл бұрын
@@rash6821 do you mean INC?
@sudhanshushekhar9461
@sudhanshushekhar9461 4 жыл бұрын
There is a lynching debate 3 verses 2. But , award gang not come to return their award.
@theseeker7194
@theseeker7194 4 жыл бұрын
Rahul Kanwal is also a centre-left, see how poorly he moderates the debate and repeatedly interrupts the right wing author but doesn't do that for Irfan or Ashutosh when they intervene when their counterparts try to put forth their opinions. So it's 2 vs 4, a heavily biased debate.
@suchetharao1060
@suchetharao1060 4 жыл бұрын
Savarkar is not an ancient icon , he Should belong in the text books!
@GHexplore
@GHexplore 4 жыл бұрын
He is there in the history. Read it again.
@AjitJoshi686
@AjitJoshi686 3 жыл бұрын
Mani Shankar Aiyar should be given Bharat Ratna for insulting Modi as Chaiwala and kicking plaque of Savarkar at Cellular Jail.
@SparshAgarwalBCL
@SparshAgarwalBCL 4 жыл бұрын
How dare you use a word like coward in introducing the biggest Braveheart of Bharat VEER Savarkar.
@monikabansal2312
@monikabansal2312 4 жыл бұрын
He was biggest coward and hypocrite just like nehru indra and rajeev...
@kgdkgd4170
@kgdkgd4170 4 жыл бұрын
वीर वो होता है जो लढते लढते मरे या जो लढाई जितें सावरकर तो 1924 मे ही लढाई छोडी तो कैसे वीर?
@TheKukun123
@TheKukun123 4 жыл бұрын
Oyee, VIT ka hai kya beyM
@sudhanshusrivastava1969
@sudhanshusrivastava1969 4 жыл бұрын
@@monikabansal2312 just read his history correctly
@sambshiva7327
@sambshiva7327 4 жыл бұрын
kanwal is JNU tukde tukde jehadiNaxal prestitute and must be put down under sharia. kanwal doesn't have level of VEER Savarkar's hair. VEER is surya/tej and kanwal/habibi/kalluHashutosh r suwar/s
@chickwit2575
@chickwit2575 4 жыл бұрын
IT Cell wale educated logo ko hire nahi karte kya?
@ritikaarya4596
@ritikaarya4596 3 жыл бұрын
They should have called Vikram Sampath to talk on Savarkar. Vikram's book (SAVARKAR: Echoes from a forgotten past) opened my eyes on Savarkar and his life struggles. Rahul is clearly biased and he gives the 3 leftists more time to speak and cuts nigam and the other guys short whenever they speak. I cannot even stand the lies these leftists propagate in the garb of intellectual gate keeping. I recommend everyone to read Vikram Sampath's book on Savarkar to get a neutral view into Savarkar's life.
@ramakantanayak1539
@ramakantanayak1539 Жыл бұрын
It is good to know about Veer Svarkar
@salembilek3219
@salembilek3219 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry savarkar. Rss spokesperson was almost crying at the roast of coward savarkar ahahahhahaha
@gajendrachandra1022
@gajendrachandra1022 4 жыл бұрын
You must must & must have someone like BOSE, BHAGAT SINGH for defending SAVARKAR's work, this man can't be defended by his own work. Either you can praise him or criticize him but he is an QUESTIONABLE character.
@navintiwari112
@navintiwari112 2 жыл бұрын
Let me put things in a better perspective for you... Netaji's contributions in freedom struggle > Veer Savarkar's > > Bhagat Singh's > Nehru's
@Fan4club
@Fan4club 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on Who is calling him “ questionable “. I fully agree with you ,only Bose or B.Sing would do the job properly.
@thetruthind
@thetruthind 2 жыл бұрын
Ashutosh is completely wrong..saying that Late Bajpayee ji never propagated Ayodhya issue. In his last speech in parliament, he said that it is only we are not in majority..the day we would come in majority, we would sort out Ayodhya and Article 370. I have no doubt Mr Ashutosh has bad agenda and equally a fool.
@indian7098
@indian7098 3 жыл бұрын
Only crime of Savarkar was mixing Independent struggle of India with Hinduism.
@shubhamrathod6859
@shubhamrathod6859 3 жыл бұрын
वीर सावरकर महान देशभक्त थे🙏
@rudrankpatel379
@rudrankpatel379 2 жыл бұрын
Thoda contribution batao bhai
@harrybv
@harrybv 4 жыл бұрын
Why does a proven liar like Habib get invited to talk. Sad.
@sandeepsingh-by4db
@sandeepsingh-by4db 4 жыл бұрын
answer is simple because he is liar.
@cooldudeimr
@cooldudeimr 4 жыл бұрын
just like desh ratan nigam and all rss liars do 😂😂😂😂😂
@sandeepsingh-by4db
@sandeepsingh-by4db 4 жыл бұрын
@@cooldudeimr what a jhandu person u are.
@cooldudeimr
@cooldudeimr 4 жыл бұрын
@@sandeepsingh-by4db hahahaha..... kyu Yeh rss deshdrohiyo ka saath dete ho
@sandeepsingh-by4db
@sandeepsingh-by4db 4 жыл бұрын
@@cooldudeimr if u have any proof jut go to the court. otherwise no need to bark doggy boy.
@trick_er
@trick_er 4 жыл бұрын
We should talk
@anand1311
@anand1311 2 жыл бұрын
Bring Vikram Sampath whenever you debate SwatantryaVeer Savarkar!
@user-up1mn2qn8w
@user-up1mn2qn8w 4 жыл бұрын
@13:50 "...So many heroes of the India's freedom movement wee written out of India's history books deliberately so..." So, the Sangh started to rewrite the Indian history that few cowards & anti-nationals could be included as freedom fighters while their record is exactly opposite.
@akshatlahane6962
@akshatlahane6962 3 жыл бұрын
Cowards like Sayyad Ahmad Khan , Maulana Azad , Four Lakh students of AMU who campaigned for Pakistan ??
@Ranjankumar-bo2hq
@Ranjankumar-bo2hq 4 жыл бұрын
Enough discussion on Savarkar and RSS. It's time we discuss Nehru and Gandhi.
@seena43
@seena43 4 жыл бұрын
Moderator preventing rebuttal is condemnable
@TanmayaPati
@TanmayaPati 3 жыл бұрын
Why most right wingers are from upper castes especially brahminical upper caste
@ABHISHEKSINGH-qm8qo
@ABHISHEKSINGH-qm8qo 4 жыл бұрын
Veer savarkar is great man.
@kamleshmehta502
@kamleshmehta502 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Nigam is inventing strategy for everything what Savarkar did which even Savarkar did not had.
@johnlivingston1631
@johnlivingston1631 4 жыл бұрын
Let there be a discussion on agriculture, irrigation, milk production, social problems, future of industries, etc.,
@anilpawar2423
@anilpawar2423 3 жыл бұрын
This Desh Ratan Nigam is referring himself, "we in RSS" then why he is projected as political analyst on different channels panel discussion?
@bknmd7
@bknmd7 4 жыл бұрын
RSS is great in Freedom Movement Great RSS ,My Salute..
@rajivsrivastav7218
@rajivsrivastav7218 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@SiddharthPandey2452
@SiddharthPandey2452 3 жыл бұрын
Nice joke uncle🤣🤣🤣 Tell me any 4 events where RSS helped in Independence!
@rays2802
@rays2802 4 жыл бұрын
savarrkar was way ahead of his time..
@Timakiwala
@Timakiwala 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Irfan is from Congress, Mr Rahul from left, Mr Ashutosh now no where...All are againt Hindustan...This debet is for SwaVeer Vinayak Damodar Savarkar not for RSS.... Rahul Kawal is only to increase TRP
@kgmuralidharan07
@kgmuralidharan07 4 жыл бұрын
Is Irfan Habib really an historian. Doubt it.
@gamesong6600
@gamesong6600 4 жыл бұрын
Ashutosh was least prepared, n informed person n wanted to highjack the whole debate, the anchor n politician in him keep coming out.
@rajanm3572
@rajanm3572 4 жыл бұрын
How Veer Sawarkar, who gave him Veer ? only Sawarkar always sawarkar.....
@gsmukherjee7437
@gsmukherjee7437 4 жыл бұрын
You know there is no Hati in Hatibagan of Kolkata. Also there is no Bag in Bagbazar of Kolkata; there is no Tiger in Tiger gate of Bombay !!
@dhaneshsingh993
@dhaneshsingh993 4 жыл бұрын
@@gsmukherjee7437 If u can't respect hindu dharma than don't comment .....
@harir6316
@harir6316 4 жыл бұрын
At least he did not sell himself for a rice bag.
@dilipthombre4806
@dilipthombre4806 4 жыл бұрын
@Rajan Mathew how many fromyour fore fathers had fought against british and jailed in Andaman ??? just give single name from your family if not then dont speak about sawarkar if you can not respect his devotion donot dare to insult
@petersunny4481
@petersunny4481 4 жыл бұрын
@@dilipthombre4806 that jail had other people also right or whether it was made only for sawarkar? If there were other people also whether they were treated like kings over there and only sawarkar was treated badly. Where is you logic sir.. It is you who is insulting all those freedom fighters who where sent to same jail and those people died over there never surrender to British. .. Freedom fight is completely different from Hindutva concept. Do not mix those two.
@joyisaiahmichael8095
@joyisaiahmichael8095 4 жыл бұрын
Which history books!!
@jay19chandra77
@jay19chandra77 4 жыл бұрын
Very engaging conversation, but wish Ashutosh was not so excited and noisy making his retorts! But good discussion.
@bknmd7
@bknmd7 4 жыл бұрын
Veer Savarkar promoted youth to join Army and suggested Neta G to use them against Britishers...
@vivekmahajan3723
@vivekmahajan3723 4 жыл бұрын
Ek banda RSS ke support me hai. Aur baki 4 oppose me.
@GHexplore
@GHexplore 4 жыл бұрын
That's how it should be. They are good for nothing
@swarachitmathsclassesbyvij838
@swarachitmathsclassesbyvij838 4 жыл бұрын
From 2 seats to 304 seats is a proof that Indians have started denying the history written by these tukade tukade gang . So these arguments given by the likes of irfan habib and his ills are now a big hollow talks which no body is going to bye that. You people have done enough damage which we Indians have understood very well
@ashsilvi9369
@ashsilvi9369 3 жыл бұрын
Bhagat Singh should be awarded Bharat Ratna .
@RiyaSharma-ox5ev
@RiyaSharma-ox5ev 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, absolutely not. He was a murderer, a radical and promulgated violence. If India was under his leadership, India would have descended into communal violence a lot before 1947.
@shivaprakash4033
@shivaprakash4033 4 жыл бұрын
What is the contribution in freedom struggle from RSS,,
@rubiyaparvin
@rubiyaparvin 4 жыл бұрын
None
@truth7653
@truth7653 4 жыл бұрын
Shiva Prakash, nil
@SiddharthPandey2452
@SiddharthPandey2452 3 жыл бұрын
A Big 0... But yeah their army includes many Britishers🙂
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