Satan Worshipping DOOM (Lowest Guitar Tuning Ever?)

[@asherplatts6253]

Also, can verify, the dudes in Bongripper are big sweeties. When they released Miserable, they sold out of "HAIL SATAN WORSHIP DOOM" hoodies, and I emailed them if they knew when they were getting more in, and they said "I dunno, but we will see what we can do" and then after digging around through their stuff they sent me one in my size that they had just laying around.

[@DoesItDoom]

That’s awesome!

[@lardism3211]

I had a similar experience with Dopelord. They sold out of one of there flags and I emailed them. They put 1 in stock just for me

[@devinftf]

I had a similar experience. I was making a God City Instruments Brutalist Jr. Pedal and the PCB was sold out everywhere, but Kurt Ballou from Converge and GCI had an extra so he put it in stock for me. Nice fella.

[@asherplatts6253]

@@devinftf that's awesome! I would love to work with GCI, my friend's band God Emperor Penguin recorded there, and their EP Perigrin Mountain sounds absolutely amazing

[@Grundle_]

It’s been a long time since I’ve been back to this channel….because of life….saw a bongripper video and immediately clicked. One of my all time favorite bands

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks for coming back!

[@markwarner5554]

I use active EMG pickups in my doom bass. I find that once I get the sound dripping with sufficient delay, reverb, and distortion , the actual sound of the pickups isn't that critical, but the noiseless nature of the active pre helps it retain the amount of clarity I want.

[@salemuxo]

yeah, i dont love my active pickups clean but with lots of fuzz they sound great

[@marcowo3226]

More doom and stoner bands need to tune to F and F# ,sounds sick, great video btw

[@DoesItDoom]

Agreed. 🤘🏻

[@timoratus_music]

I'm on it! My wife and I are starting a sludge band with just the 2 of us named Azell that will be using F tuning and are hoping to have something out by the end of August!

[@PhoqueOfDeath]

Fistula also tune down to F on a lot of material and even covered A National Acrobat an octave below Eb standard

[@SatanEatsJesus]

2 other great F standard bands are Earth (or at least on the album Earth 2: Special Low Frequency Edition) and Crowbar. Crowbar dooms in F standard on a budget, too 😂

[@antares4975]

@@timoratus_music so how is it going?

[@ДжулианЭкс]

Sounds massive and groovy, exactly like I would personally want doom stuff to hear. Thanks for the demo!

[@danm5945]

Great job as always! Bongripper creates a heck of a groove using 1 string and 1 finger. I’d be interested in your thoughts after you swap pickups. Maybe do another Bongripper song in the same tuning for a comparison.

[@DoesItDoom]

Was just thinking about doing a comparison!

[@BigMacAttack83]

First off: Jesus F standard tuning? Second off: Nice. Love that tone.

[@jameshickson8174]

Try double drop B yes it is a thing

[@grimg0r]

@@jameshickson8174 double drop a is the lowest ive heard so far

[@Jando_Fett]

@@grimg0r the new Spirit Box song is in Drop G#0 apparently

[@grimg0r]

@@Jando_Fett which song are you talking about? i know rotoscope is drop f# but they use an octave pedal for the verse part

[@Jando_Fett]

@@grimg0r Rotoscope is the one! Andrew Beana said they used a 9 string tunes to Drop G#0 in the cover he did with the guitar they used if I remember right

[@1I1I1I1I3]

Love EMGs for death metal like Incantation and Immolation etc.. But for doom and more vintage tones definitely prefer passive pickups

[@jamesswift580]

Hell yeah, I have a 6 string Agile I tune down to F to play bongripper songs. I saw them once and one of the guys was also using an agile, cheap guitars but surprisingly good. I usually use a RAT with the gain all the way up into a earthquaker plumes on its “clean boost” setting and it gets me pretty close to the bongripper tone

[@DoesItDoom]

Nicely done! Have seen Nick playing the Agile Gold Top LP with P90’s.

[@johnnyjohnsonston2581]

I love active pick-ups, even for doom. They sound more aggressive and mean than passive.

[@metj6885]

Steve, gotta say I just love watching you groove, mesmerizing Wizardry!

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks brother. 🙏🏻🧙🏻‍♂️

[@alexanderrimmington4628]

I really like EMGs and SD blackouts on extended range and low tuned instruments. For Doom the compression of actives is usually better than the dynamics of passives, but some fuzz pedals don't like them.

[@ZeugmaP]

Your tones are always on point ! When I bought my 8 string (with active pickups btw), I learned some riffs from Terminal by Bongripper. Another band that tunes really low is Thou, they use F# standard (sometimes down to C#) and their riffs are some of the best I've ever heard ! I would love to see a lesson for one of their songs one day.

[@DoesItDoom]

Need to do some Thou! Any songs in particular?

[@ZeugmaP]

@@DoesItDoom My personal favourites are "Fucking Chained to the Bottom of the Ocean" and "I Was Ignored. And Judged. And Cast Down." I absolutely love their first album !

[@The45DegreesProject]

@@DoesItDoom Into the Marshlands, Out of Existence or the Changeling Prince would be cool

[@theeverchosen1504]

Was looking for this album and this pointed me in the right direction, thanks!

[@kazukihiratani]

The lowest tuning I've heard in doom metal is used in the band Monovoth, Lucas (the guy behind the band) tunes his guitars to D1 Standard. 6 string baritones. I'd love to see you cover Laesura, it's a really nice funeral drone style mashup! I also recommend checking out Foreigns (tuned to G1 Standard) and Wetlands (tuned to E1 Standard). I also really love your new editing stuff, like how you put the scale length, tuning, string gauges and all that stuff! It's really nice!

[@highseervehk]

Hey I've been following Monovoth since the beginning! Glorious stuff

[@kazukihiratani]

@@highseervehk Same here brother! Mono has some amazing stuff, and the album is on the way!

[@dodenmanniskan8846]

Do you have any links to Foreigns and Wetlands?

[@chainsawz1]

One of the heaviest albums ever made, period. Hometown heros. A question regarding tuning, is their bass player tuned up to F a half step? I can't imagine tuning a bass down almost a whole octave would sound very good

[@DoesItDoom]

He's tuned down to F, A#, D#, G# and uses Kalium strings gauged .190, .142, .106, .079.

[@jonathanmatthews6478]

@@DoesItDoom ron has a fuckin nuts egc bass too

[@chainsawz1]

I should also add they are one of the LOUDEST GODDAMN BANDS I have ever seen

[@FuzzedDrones]

Glad to see the showman in action 🤘🏻 . This sounds great .

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks man! The DSR is a beast. Was so happy to finally get it serviced and back in action.

[@danielwaller5769]

Killed it man, great video

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks man. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

I just got an 8 string so I can write doom/drone riffs on it. Perfect time to see this video. This sounds awesome! I've been listening to Hell, Thou, and Primitive Man a whole lot, so that's where my inspiration came from 🔥

[@DoesItDoom]

Killer! What are you tuning it to?

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

@@DoesItDoom Yess. Debating between either F standard or Drop E

[@gimmenames9039]

@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic Looking into 8 strings too. Eying an Ormsby Goliath. What brand did you get?

[@jww732]

Always the best from you Steve 🙏

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks brother. 🙏🤘

[@brpadington]

I actually have started to like active pickups. I was a Duncan JB/59 guy for years but I got a new Jackson King V with EMGs that I planned on swapping. Once I got used to EQing a little differently I started to like the actives a lot. So much so that i swapped in a Gary Holt set in an old ESP V I never liked the sound of with Duncans. The thing I like most about the actives is the lack of feedback.

[@walkingdirt138]

I have a 6 string Viper Baritone with an Emg 81 in the bridge. The most basic guitar, but sounds absolutely MASSIVE. That 81 handles every type of heavy that I can play on that. Also, my only guitar with active pickups. I play the hell out of it.

[@TrevyTrev-andTheFunkyPets]

My “ Crowbar” guitar, a goldtop Schecter Tempest , came with Seymour Duncan Blackouts and sounds awesome at lower tunings. EMGs sound a lil too bright for what I like. Great Video.

[@hg1651]

Love the decaying bass efect on this track.

[@doctorluthier6350]

Im using a bass VI, but i removed neck and middle pickups, the string pull they made was terrible. so now it can easily reach low C# without mud :D and i encourage everyone reading to try one; and removing those 2 pickups ( or lowering them to max depth)

[@szammartin8395]

Love the tone, very good video! :D

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks brother!

[@Claviceptic]

Man, I love Bongripper so much.

[@DoesItDoom]

🐐🐐

[@tulyar1043]

Been using EMGs for over thirty years. One thing you never hear anyone mention is this: When installing them or already on a guitar, lower the height of them till virtually at the adjusting screw end. Now start increasing the height little bit by little bit until you have the tone that you need. These pickups sound better away from the strings. My EMGs run on 18 volts, great tone with power when needed and with great dynamics no matter the tuning being used.

[@twobitsprite2750]

Do the tabs on your Parteon go over the riffs in this song you didn't cover? There are a few around 4:00 and on that weren't covered. The two riffs from at ~5:47 - 6:49 are ones I'm particularly interested in.

[@DoesItDoom]

Yeah. I think the TAB was 11 or 12 riffs in total. If you don’t find what you need let me know.

[@twobitsprite2750]

@@DoesItDoom Will do! Thank you for all that you do. I've learned a ton from watching you 🙏

[@TomBrom323]

So glad you did this one!

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks Tom. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@wee7750]

Can you do a full cover of the song? Your tone sounds absolutely amazing.

[@Nyogtha]

7 string guitars are super underutilized in doom. I love mine because it gets rid of that really loose feel that down tuning can get.

[@harrydrewz]

Man what a fuckin tune. Love me some bongripper. Those pedals you have get mighty close to the Fuzzrocious Bongripper pedal!!

[@DoesItDoom]

Amazing tune for sure! I was pretty stoked about the tone here for sure.

[@DrillSergeant379]

I've used EMG's for heavy fuzzed tone for three albums in my past band Celophys. Sometime EMG's sounds to much compressed when you use fuzz or fuzz-dist and it gets farted and gated. But it sounds unique in some way. I also blending bridge and neck pups with just two volume controls (without 3-way switch) to get some extra low-end from neck pickup (80% volume of bridge and 20% volume of neck).

[@allyhewitt1300]

Amazing stuff. I legit think your amps, speakers and heads are colelctively worth more than my house. Shame you didn't get to the really spicy bit in the second third.

[@dvvelldoom5239]

6 string and passive pickups. Nothing compares.

[@ashplaysbass]

I heard the riff at the start, didn’t think it was that low, and then realized I’d been listening to people use their basses as guitars in djent mixes for an hour

[@remyqueraud3100]

Active vs passive. As long as the pickups go “SKKKKEDRRRDD BWAAAAAA” when they need to right?

[@GogaBolz]

your tone sounds like a washy reverb trail

[@TheGorillafoot]

Great video

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks for watching!

[@Robotron6012]

3:04 is where it's all at, that is riff perfection 👌🏻

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

Another comment, I'm impressed by the clarity of that Viper. The Agartha really is awesome, but I would've never expected a 25.5 inch scale in F to sound that clear

[@DoesItDoom]

Same. The EMG’s seem to work well tuned this low, and I was really happy with how the mix came out…. That said, I’m still going to swap to the passives I picked up.

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

@@DoesItDoom They definitely do handle low tunings well, but I don't blame you, I'm also a bigger fan of passives

[@Jeff_HellensBridge]

I'm using a squier baritone tele for doom shit and it's sick.

[@DoesItDoom]

Cool guitars.

[@speedhead]

may i suggest an 8 string tuned down half step.

[@nitzer280]

These Chicago boys melt faces. Thanks for covering them! Your tone is SOLID.

[@andrew_prometheus]

The hair is majestic homie I’ve only been growing mine for about 14 months but the frizz is real lol

[@MarkDaniels2787]

I actually like emg's with fuzz if you install the 24 volt mod. best 30 bucks you can invest in your guitar with active pickups. Its like you pulled a weighted blanket off of your cabinet

[@TexAgsArmyVet]

I love EMG'S. I have the 81/85 set in most of the guitars I've owned and still own. The EMG 60 is also nice. I enjoy them because they're consistent and I know what I'm paying for. 🤘🤘🤘

[@Elderwyrmmusic]

I just wish they'd make these metal guitars in more classic colors like cherry red with a pickguard. Also not with EMGs

[@DoesItDoom]

Really wish they did more guitars with passive pickups as well. Some pretty badass guitars.

[@alexeydubrov8923]

EMG 57/66 set is pretty good for doom/stoner stuff.

[@Wurmt0ngue]

the mane is in full effect

[@DoesItDoom]

🧙🏻‍♂️🧙🏻‍♂️

[@hailmaryrecordings8255]

I love that Fender … nice score.

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks! Was really stoked to find one at such a great price. Had it fully serviced and restored to its former glory.

[@magusking9215]

I don't listen to Bongripper - but I dig this channel and I like low tuning. To tell you the truth it made me want to listen to a mix of OM / Sleep / YOB that I have. F is also the lowest tuning I have used on my 7 string to write a few riffs - after jamming to Meshuggah. Maybe Drop E one time to play Deftones but I think the tabbed just made it up I'm not sure... Double F or F# on a 6 string to play some ISIS as well

[@seanbrothers5675]

EMG 81/85 in a single cut guitar is the best setup for aggressive low end shred

[@ilikepotatoes1345]

I hate active pickups, they sound synthetic and just unnatural to me. I'd choose a high output passive pickup over an active pickup every single time.

[@demonslayer0364]

The Meshuggah tuning

[@SarpKaraarslan]

I prefer low output humbuckers or single coils for fuzz.

[@davethrash7270]

I play a 90s Gibson Les Paul standard with an EMG 81 in the bridge (for thrash/grind) and a EMG 60 in the neck for doom and fuzz, literally the best of both worlds. Try an EMG 60 in the neck of a Les paul with a one knob dr. No turd fuzz pedal on the clean channel of a tube amp, dial down the treble on the clean channel of my amp and crank the mids and lows at 3 o’clock and literally have BURNING WITCH tones all day long. I dial my dirty channel in for the 81 and dial the clean channel in for the 60. I’ve sold off my expensive amps and pedals and only need one guitar, a turd fuzz and a gate pedal and a 100 watt tube head with a 4x12 SUNN and a 4x15 custom built cab. I’m never turning back…

[@cheezeblahblah]

What a beautiful sent by LUCIFER video clip. AMAZING!!!!

[@DoesItDoom]

🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@siggeslug3009]

Damn this is a sweet tune, Doom-Gandalf!

[@DoesItDoom]

🧙🏻‍♂️

[@xhannesx8881]

Very Good video, But do you remember all the songs you have on your channel.

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks. I generally forget much of what I teach, except for maybe the very coolest riffs since I’m always learning and teaching new songs.

[@chrisbarnette7137]

Great band and I love the channel and not to sound fruity but your hair kicks ass. P.s. do you have the fender and the sunn going together?

[@DoesItDoom]

Haha! Just the Fender. It’s basically a Twin Reverb in a head shell.

[@triplsiks]

Have you done a video or a section in one of your vieos about the difference between active and passive pickup and doom?

[@jtobrien_]

This made my day

[@DoesItDoom]

Glad to hear that Joe. 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@alexwood8555]

I don’t mind the emg sound, I like it for stuff like Candlemass or Funeral Fvkk. It’s all a context thing, if I want more cleans then passives are the way to go.

[@ricksworkbench1386]

Curios if you recut the nut slots for the huuuuge gauges? I imagine the strings would sit on top of the nut instead of inside of them. Thanks.

[@DoesItDoom]

Yes, absolutely. Tuners drilled out, nut slots and bridge saddles filed. Full setup also.

[@adrianjabs5752]

That's awesome thx for the vid I'm inspired I've got a ltd 6 string Bass & I'm gonna tune to D or E standard but in the bass register 🤘🤘🤘

[@DoesItDoom]

Nice!

[@adrianjabs5752]

@@DoesItDoom yeah I had a try tuned up broke strings tuned down sloppy strings I settled on standard E but tuned down one & a half octaves so B0. E1. A1. D2. F#2. B2 I used a Daddario 0 ,145 as low B I'm 6 foot tall big hands & it plays well but to get use of it you would need to woodshed !

[@jacak47410]

You ever try the 24v mod for the emg's? I've been researching them allot. Supposed to open the headroom of the emg allot

[@DoesItDoom]

This is the only guitar I’ve ever owned with EMG’s.

[@XXTROB]

I use the 24 volt mod on all my emg loaded guitars and it makes a very noticeable difference for very little money…highly recommended

[@jacak47410]

@@DoesItDoom misheard what you said in the video. Thought you said it was currently your only emg equipped guitar

[@DoesItDoom]

@@jacak47410 the 24V mod is interesting. Seen it mentioned a few times in the comments here.

[@norbertscheibenreif8336]

But it always seems to me that there are some slight variations in this song.... I figured the first two riffs while ago, didn't know about the slide to the 12fret and didn't figure out the slow ending riffs... So thank you 💪

[@DoesItDoom]

I agree on the variation for sure. Watched some live footage as I put this together to try and capture the general essence of how they play it.

[@miikdaniels1439]

I love EMG 81/85 they Doom well. Just a different beast that's all.

[@Qbaca]

Oooo... Yeasss please! Thanks Steve🤘

[@DoesItDoom]

You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@Qbaca]

@@DoesItDoom 🐐🐍

[@zakarhaavevuo2574]

Man that Viper is cooooool!

[@DoesItDoom]

Really is a nice one.

[@djentmaster33]

Lundgren M series passive pickups are where it's at. The perfect sound especially for low tunings.

[@patsplat]

EMG ALX hall of blood with selective EQ boost are my fav.

[@g3ng4rb0i3]

I just realized doom is just djent super slowed down lol love the vid

[@DoesItDoom]

Haha! Thanks for watching.

[@profile_01]

When will Fender re-reissue the Model T I wonder

[@DoesItDoom]

Checkout 378 Amplifiers for a pretty epic clone.

[@profile_01]

@@DoesItDoom Thanks brother

[@Highrollinhunter]

I have a P bass which I tune down to C# standard to play Stoner Metal and I'm getting a Glarry fretless P bass which I'm tuning to Drop C#.

[@godlessinsurgent1895]

Ok so...i like to tune down to c, then drop the e string like drop d, is this a thing?? Cuz i do it, and it sounds gnarly

[@davidburke3613]

I have EMGs in a guitar in C Standard, when I used my fuzz pedals, it gets too muddy.

[@DoesItDoom]

Really liked how they sounded here but still gonna swap ‘em. Already bought the pickups.

[@nicolasbeaudry6158]

Bro you have the coolest hair and beard killer look killer playing 🤘🏻⚡️⚡️🖤💎

[@DoesItDoom]

🙏🏻🧙🏻‍♂️🧙🏻‍♂️

[@charliedango2664]

I hated EMGs. Had an Ibanez 7-string that had them and I was never happy with the tone. Best tone I ever got was through a Les Paul with p90s tuned to B standard through a JMP super lead into a Sound City 412. Insanely dynamic and had a girth to the sound I could never reproduce with pedals.

[@DoesItDoom]

I bet that rig was killer!

[@charliedango2664]

@@DoesItDoom It was. Search Old Man Eloquent on YT if you'd like to hear how it sounded.

[@anubis1335]

LOATHE actives. I have a set on my Matt Heafy Epi 7 string and a Charvel Tele. Want them both replaced.

[@DoesItDoom]

I ended up really liking how the tone came out in this video, but I’m still swapping to the passives. Will be interesting to compare.

[@chriscurran1967]

Great stuff Steve, heavy as fuck for sure!!! I don’t dig active pickups, if you have to put a battery in it, I’m out. I think they sound ok, but I just can’t get past the battery part. Keep up the great work!!!🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@vg4917]

think would sound sick with the crowbar style harmonies

[@Tiffany-Rose]

Does anyone know where to get the song Slows tab? I can't seem to find it anywhere and it's prob my fav of theirs. 🙏🤘

[@XXTROB]

I love emgs especially with 24volts instead of 9 volts…but I’ve never tried them for doom mostly 80s thrash and metal. That said I have blackouts in my 7 string which I use exclusively for Conan stuff (now this track too) and I love the clarity and crushing tone of the blackouts….another great video as always 🤘🏼🧙🏼‍♂️

[@seanbrothers5675]

How 24v?

[@XXTROB]

@@seanbrothers5675 there is a company called 24volt mod, it replaces the 9 volt with two 12 volt camera batteries

[@seanbrothers5675]

More power!!!

[@thomassully6421]

active pickups sound great, i just hate the fact i need a battery to use them. i’ve already had to deal with dead batteries on one of my active basses

[@chistake7585]

So is this tuning lower than Floor and Torche's "Bomb Tuning"?

[@2und2sind4]

I had EMGs in a Jim Root Telecaster. EMGs didn't work with fuzz at all because they overloaded the pedal with low end. Sounded weak and mushy.

[@tulyar1043]

On your videos you never mention the picks you use or how to hit the strings, ie softly or hard etc. Tried tuning down to A# std once with 12 to 64 strings and the sixth string just flapped about on a 25 1/2 inch scale length. So what is the best way to go that low?

[@DoesItDoom]

For A-Standard I use 13-65, it really just depends on your playing technique and how you want your instrument to feel. I'd recommend checking out this video I did on how to use a string tension calculator to figure out what strings will work best for you in any tuning / at any scale: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXzdZoSAbpV6f9E

[@tulyar1043]

@@DoesItDoom Thank you for your reply. I'll have a look at the video and see what happens.

[@BigMuff520]

I got a nice Vioer with EMGs and I just didn’t care for them for doom. I’ll take some Duncan’s any day.

[@DoesItDoom]

I ended up really liking how they sounded here, but I’m still going to swap ‘em. Might record it again with the passives and see how they compare.

[@SlowDeath1993]

Anyone using Acapulco gold by EQD? I love it, but not exactly sure how to use it to get the Bongripper tone..

[@Pedal_Gong_Show]

I only played passive PU's for over 30 years. But then I bought a VIPER 400, with my 1st Classic EMG's in it.😱. If you have the right FX pedal, it is also possible with active PU's. But I clearly prefer not so strong PU's.

[@fabiansanchez7203]

This was one of the first songs I learned on bass, playing the guitar parts lmao.

[@doomngloom1343]

I’m not the biggest fan of active pickups, I favor lace sensors for sure.

[@BubbaZanetti_375]

Holy shit that sounds rad

[@DoesItDoom]

Thanks John!

[@clintn6677]

Don't like active pickups just cause they seem to take some personality out of the guitar. BTW Bongripper is one of those bands I love but never bothered to learn how to play. Looks like I'm joining your patreon

[@DoesItDoom]

Glad you liked the lesson and hope you enjoy all of the content on Patreon.

[@geordiedog1749]

I got EMGs on my Epi SG. Sounds great. Not as good as my War Pigs but I can’t afford to put them on everything.

[@nvjohansson9741]

War pigs rule. Mike Scheidt's setup and gear is on a whole other level for me. Every part of it.

[@geordiedog1749]

@@nvjohansson9741 They’re immense. I by-passed the tone pots as well so they are even louder. If I could I’d put them on everything I have. Plus……they’re called ‘War Pigs’!!!

[@necroticpoison]

Watched it in 2x speed which is sacrilege but as someone that hasn't been able to get much into doom it does sound damn good. I think that's just the thrash in me preventing me from hearing music under ~130bpm

[@djlane74]

I think the pick ups sound good. What are you going to replace them with?